1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 3: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,624 Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,664 --> 00:00:30,504 Speaker 3: to The Spill, your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick. 6 00:00:30,144 --> 00:00:34,424 Speaker 2: And I'm Cassanna Lukic and on today's show, some more 7 00:00:34,504 --> 00:00:36,904 Speaker 2: fun stuff for us, and we are diving in to 8 00:00:37,584 --> 00:00:40,464 Speaker 2: the woman that we and all of the Internet can't 9 00:00:40,464 --> 00:00:43,904 Speaker 2: stop talking about, and that is Megan Michael. But this 10 00:00:43,984 --> 00:00:46,584 Speaker 2: time with a slight twist. We've got a little bit 11 00:00:46,624 --> 00:00:51,064 Speaker 2: of Bookshields in there as well, which should be very exciting. Yes, 12 00:00:51,144 --> 00:00:53,024 Speaker 2: But first what we're going to do is talk about 13 00:00:53,064 --> 00:00:57,024 Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. There is an update 14 00:00:57,064 --> 00:00:59,424 Speaker 2: and we have to address it because I'm very excited. 15 00:00:59,144 --> 00:01:02,264 Speaker 3: About this, and for the first time ever, I'm excited 16 00:01:02,424 --> 00:01:05,504 Speaker 3: about a Housewives update because you're not a big Housewives 17 00:01:05,544 --> 00:01:08,104 Speaker 3: fan and this is and long term listeners of a 18 00:01:08,184 --> 00:01:11,064 Speaker 3: Spill will know this because obviously there's been so many 19 00:01:11,064 --> 00:01:13,544 Speaker 3: new stories around them over the years. And I've always said, like, 20 00:01:13,584 --> 00:01:16,224 Speaker 3: I'm just on a big reality TV person unless it's 21 00:01:16,224 --> 00:01:19,504 Speaker 3: for work. So I've interviewed many Housewives stars over the years, 22 00:01:19,504 --> 00:01:21,904 Speaker 3: and I find them very fascinating to interview, but I 23 00:01:21,984 --> 00:01:24,464 Speaker 3: just can't get behind that franchise. I understand how people 24 00:01:24,464 --> 00:01:27,824 Speaker 3: watch it. It's just never ever been for me until this 25 00:01:27,864 --> 00:01:30,464 Speaker 3: announcement came out over the weekend and for the first time, 26 00:01:30,704 --> 00:01:31,304 Speaker 3: I'm all in. 27 00:01:31,504 --> 00:01:33,984 Speaker 2: This is like a really good like lead up. If 28 00:01:34,024 --> 00:01:34,864 Speaker 2: you don't know who this is. 29 00:01:34,904 --> 00:01:37,104 Speaker 3: Yeah, bring me some dollars. 30 00:01:37,744 --> 00:01:42,304 Speaker 2: So the newest cast member announced this week is the 31 00:01:42,304 --> 00:01:44,464 Speaker 2: one only Rachel Zoe. 32 00:01:45,264 --> 00:01:48,264 Speaker 3: I am shocked, shocked, I tell you, are you? Are 33 00:01:48,304 --> 00:01:48,584 Speaker 3: you not? 34 00:01:48,904 --> 00:01:52,344 Speaker 2: I'm super shocked as well. I actually thought she probably 35 00:01:52,344 --> 00:01:55,464 Speaker 2: would have fit better in New York, to be honest. 36 00:01:56,704 --> 00:01:59,464 Speaker 3: Franchise LA Base. She's an LA girl, I. 37 00:01:59,384 --> 00:02:01,544 Speaker 2: Know, but I just feel like I have vibe. It's 38 00:02:01,584 --> 00:02:04,184 Speaker 2: gonna be really interesting to see how she meshes with 39 00:02:04,264 --> 00:02:08,064 Speaker 2: the girls. So she basically announced the news on Instagram. 40 00:02:08,144 --> 00:02:10,104 Speaker 2: She said, here we go again at Bravo TV. I'm 41 00:02:10,104 --> 00:02:13,104 Speaker 2: a few joining the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and 42 00:02:13,144 --> 00:02:15,864 Speaker 2: back with my Bravo family. Now she's talking about she's 43 00:02:15,904 --> 00:02:18,304 Speaker 2: to do the Rachel Zoe Project and that from like 44 00:02:18,304 --> 00:02:20,984 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, twenty thirteen, So she's not like 45 00:02:21,384 --> 00:02:23,984 Speaker 2: unfamiliar with reality TV. If you don't know who Rachel 46 00:02:24,024 --> 00:02:28,104 Speaker 2: Zoe is, She's a stylist, like fashion icon. I'm really 47 00:02:28,104 --> 00:02:33,064 Speaker 2: fascinated with the last few castmates that they've brought in 48 00:02:33,704 --> 00:02:38,064 Speaker 2: this last season season fourteen. Bozoma Saint John, who is 49 00:02:38,584 --> 00:02:42,144 Speaker 2: nicknamed boz Like she was the head of marketing at Netflix. Like, 50 00:02:42,224 --> 00:02:46,984 Speaker 2: she's an amazing powerhouse woman. Rachel Zoe also like massive 51 00:02:47,024 --> 00:02:51,224 Speaker 2: powerhouse so really like moving away from and they've been 52 00:02:51,264 --> 00:02:55,184 Speaker 2: doing this for years, but this Whole Housewives, Yeah, it's 53 00:02:55,224 --> 00:02:58,224 Speaker 2: not because they all have huge jobs and things, right, Yeah, 54 00:02:58,264 --> 00:03:02,664 Speaker 2: like that's not really what it's about anymore. So I 55 00:03:02,704 --> 00:03:05,584 Speaker 2: think bringing her on is going to be really interesting. 56 00:03:05,704 --> 00:03:09,824 Speaker 2: So at the time we recorded this, there have been 57 00:03:09,864 --> 00:03:14,704 Speaker 2: no other past announcements or like confirmations. But at the 58 00:03:14,824 --> 00:03:19,944 Speaker 2: end of season fourteen, Garcel Bevo actually did leave, So 59 00:03:20,184 --> 00:03:23,184 Speaker 2: I did see that. Yeah, So Garcel left right before 60 00:03:23,224 --> 00:03:25,704 Speaker 2: the reunion and she said it was time to you 61 00:03:25,704 --> 00:03:27,504 Speaker 2: just wanted to spend more time with her family and 62 00:03:27,624 --> 00:03:30,904 Speaker 2: producing and things like that. She didn't have a great season. 63 00:03:31,144 --> 00:03:34,944 Speaker 2: I think that she probably was just like seeing the 64 00:03:34,984 --> 00:03:36,784 Speaker 2: writing on the wall and you know what, and go 65 00:03:37,024 --> 00:03:40,224 Speaker 2: time out of it, but we've still got Kyle Richards, Erica, 66 00:03:40,304 --> 00:03:44,944 Speaker 2: Jane drek Kemsley Sutton Strack, and Bezoma Saint John, and 67 00:03:44,984 --> 00:03:48,304 Speaker 2: then there were still appearances by Kathy Hilton and Jennifer Tilly. 68 00:03:48,624 --> 00:03:52,384 Speaker 2: So with Garcel out of that, if we assume it's 69 00:03:52,384 --> 00:03:55,424 Speaker 2: the same cars, Rachel Zoe will be fitting into that, 70 00:03:55,464 --> 00:03:59,264 Speaker 2: which would be really interesting because there's been so much 71 00:04:00,224 --> 00:04:05,344 Speaker 2: conflict between Derete and Kyle yes past season. 72 00:04:05,744 --> 00:04:08,104 Speaker 3: Oddly for someone who doesn't watch the show very very 73 00:04:08,184 --> 00:04:11,024 Speaker 3: across this you look at this stuff all day, every well, exactly, 74 00:04:11,064 --> 00:04:12,904 Speaker 3: I'm seeing it all. I interviewed Kyle when she came 75 00:04:12,944 --> 00:04:16,224 Speaker 3: to Australia, very quiet and reserved, did offer to clean 76 00:04:16,304 --> 00:04:18,784 Speaker 3: up the hotel room unprompted, and I wore the furniture 77 00:04:18,824 --> 00:04:21,144 Speaker 3: herself and then started moving the furniture and I said, 78 00:04:21,184 --> 00:04:23,264 Speaker 3: Kyle Richards, you don't have to move the table. We'll 79 00:04:23,264 --> 00:04:25,704 Speaker 3: get someone else to do that. That's my content with them. 80 00:04:25,824 --> 00:04:28,944 Speaker 3: The reason though I'm excited about Rachel Zoe joining and 81 00:04:28,944 --> 00:04:32,224 Speaker 3: also surprised, is that she's not a conflict person. She's 82 00:04:32,344 --> 00:04:36,264 Speaker 3: always kept her like branding and her personal the way 83 00:04:36,344 --> 00:04:38,864 Speaker 3: she presents herself to the world. For someone who's like 84 00:04:39,144 --> 00:04:41,704 Speaker 3: you know, has got her fame through mostly reality TV 85 00:04:41,824 --> 00:04:45,304 Speaker 3: and her celebrity connections always comes across very much like 86 00:04:45,424 --> 00:04:48,464 Speaker 3: very lovely on everyone's side, even though behind the scenes 87 00:04:48,504 --> 00:04:50,544 Speaker 3: we know that she's probably not like that, which is 88 00:04:50,544 --> 00:04:51,904 Speaker 3: what I'm most excited to see. 89 00:04:51,984 --> 00:04:53,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the way that I see her portrayed 90 00:04:53,944 --> 00:04:56,864 Speaker 2: as well is like she's a business woman, like she's 91 00:04:56,904 --> 00:04:59,144 Speaker 2: a hot us. Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I don't 92 00:04:59,184 --> 00:05:00,304 Speaker 2: think she's soft. 93 00:05:01,064 --> 00:05:03,984 Speaker 3: No interesting. Seeing her not be able to control the 94 00:05:04,104 --> 00:05:06,024 Speaker 3: edits the whole thing that Rachel's off anyone's not. I 95 00:05:06,024 --> 00:05:08,584 Speaker 3: feel like this is like a very like Her life 96 00:05:08,624 --> 00:05:11,064 Speaker 3: and her career is a very particular mo moment, particularly 97 00:05:11,144 --> 00:05:14,424 Speaker 3: for millennial women in that age of like those tabloid 98 00:05:14,464 --> 00:05:17,664 Speaker 3: paparazzi girls, because she became one of the first big 99 00:05:17,704 --> 00:05:19,904 Speaker 3: celebrity stylists that I'm going to go ahead and say, 100 00:05:19,944 --> 00:05:22,104 Speaker 3: like the common people like me, like a girl living 101 00:05:22,144 --> 00:05:24,584 Speaker 3: in towns or would know about. It's because she started 102 00:05:24,664 --> 00:05:27,824 Speaker 3: dressing all of these big name Hollywood celebrities. She's been 103 00:05:27,824 --> 00:05:29,984 Speaker 3: in the industry for like thirty years, but she started 104 00:05:29,984 --> 00:05:32,904 Speaker 3: having all these huge red carpet moments with like Cameron 105 00:05:32,944 --> 00:05:36,584 Speaker 3: Diez and Demi Moore and Jennifer Ghana, and people started 106 00:05:36,624 --> 00:05:38,584 Speaker 3: talking like who is dressing these women on the red 107 00:05:38,624 --> 00:05:41,224 Speaker 3: cart But they just look very different to the way 108 00:05:41,264 --> 00:05:43,104 Speaker 3: that other women are dressing and it was very a 109 00:05:43,184 --> 00:05:45,904 Speaker 3: very specific style and it came out it was Rachel 110 00:05:46,024 --> 00:05:49,464 Speaker 3: zo And then she also started becoming very good friends 111 00:05:49,504 --> 00:05:52,624 Speaker 3: with everyone she dressed. Yeah, d remember those days. So she 112 00:05:52,624 --> 00:05:55,504 Speaker 3: would be really good friends with like Jennifer Gana, who 113 00:05:55,504 --> 00:05:57,904 Speaker 3: would say lovely things about her, very good friends with 114 00:05:57,944 --> 00:06:00,224 Speaker 3: Anne Hathaway when she like dressed her for the Oscars. 115 00:06:00,424 --> 00:06:02,824 Speaker 3: But more importantly than that, she would go out and 116 00:06:02,904 --> 00:06:05,344 Speaker 3: party with these girls when they were at their peak 117 00:06:05,424 --> 00:06:07,704 Speaker 3: of being like the queens of La of the tabloid girls. 118 00:06:07,904 --> 00:06:09,864 Speaker 3: She would go out and party with Nicole Richie, who 119 00:06:09,864 --> 00:06:12,184 Speaker 3: she was very good friends with, with Paris Hilton, who 120 00:06:12,224 --> 00:06:15,384 Speaker 3: she was friends is with Lindsay Loewen until all of 121 00:06:15,424 --> 00:06:17,864 Speaker 3: that blew up. Remember the horse tranquilizers. 122 00:06:18,744 --> 00:06:21,104 Speaker 2: Do you remember that that's not ringing any bells? 123 00:06:22,224 --> 00:06:24,824 Speaker 3: She addressed on The Rachel Zoe Project, which is an 124 00:06:24,824 --> 00:06:28,504 Speaker 3: incredible show that's about her styling crew. It's on Hey 125 00:06:28,544 --> 00:06:31,224 Speaker 3: you If anyone hasn't watched it. It's such a good rewatch. 126 00:06:31,464 --> 00:06:33,944 Speaker 3: But she became very good friends with all these famous 127 00:06:33,944 --> 00:06:36,344 Speaker 3: girls around the same time that all of their style 128 00:06:36,464 --> 00:06:39,864 Speaker 3: really started evolving and they all started looking the same room. 129 00:06:39,944 --> 00:06:43,624 Speaker 2: Also very boho like. Yeah, so it was very boho 130 00:06:44,024 --> 00:06:46,104 Speaker 2: kind of florally, but then with like a bit of 131 00:06:46,144 --> 00:06:48,384 Speaker 2: an edge, and it was always about like the really 132 00:06:48,424 --> 00:06:50,544 Speaker 2: messy hair with curls with straight ends. 133 00:06:50,664 --> 00:06:52,024 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, So. 134 00:06:51,944 --> 00:06:55,104 Speaker 2: It was that kind of period of time. I really 135 00:06:55,184 --> 00:06:58,864 Speaker 2: am so interested to see how she's gonna slot in. 136 00:06:59,784 --> 00:07:02,064 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out who's going to be her, 137 00:07:02,264 --> 00:07:05,864 Speaker 2: like buddy, Yeah, I'm thinking maybe Erica Jane. 138 00:07:06,184 --> 00:07:06,344 Speaker 1: Oh. 139 00:07:06,424 --> 00:07:07,984 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know enough about her, but if 140 00:07:08,104 --> 00:07:10,264 Speaker 3: I love Rika Jay, but I wonder if there's lefto. 141 00:07:10,384 --> 00:07:12,224 Speaker 3: But I don't think she in Paris Hilton ever had 142 00:07:12,224 --> 00:07:14,784 Speaker 3: a blowout the way she potentially had to blow out 143 00:07:14,784 --> 00:07:16,704 Speaker 3: with Nicole Richie, because again, she was she was getting 144 00:07:16,704 --> 00:07:18,264 Speaker 3: packed with all these girls. She was dressing them the 145 00:07:18,264 --> 00:07:20,384 Speaker 3: same way. You know, the white baby doll dressers and 146 00:07:20,464 --> 00:07:25,904 Speaker 3: all the necklaces and the big chunky necklace, several chunky necklaces. 147 00:07:26,904 --> 00:07:29,824 Speaker 3: That is Rachel Zoe's one hundred and then all the 148 00:07:29,864 --> 00:07:32,584 Speaker 3: girl's body started changing the same time. This is when 149 00:07:32,664 --> 00:07:35,624 Speaker 3: around when like Nicole Richie lost a huge amount of weight, 150 00:07:35,704 --> 00:07:38,344 Speaker 3: so did Lindsay Lowyn and Misha Bart and Mischa Button 151 00:07:38,384 --> 00:07:40,504 Speaker 3: was also in that little gang. And all of a 152 00:07:40,504 --> 00:07:43,344 Speaker 3: sudden there were these accusations against Rachel Zoe that not 153 00:07:43,424 --> 00:07:45,784 Speaker 3: only and again accusations, I don't know. I wasn't there. 154 00:07:45,824 --> 00:07:49,624 Speaker 3: I wish I was allegedly allegedly that she was also 155 00:07:49,704 --> 00:07:53,304 Speaker 3: giving them these prescription pills to help them lose weight, 156 00:07:53,864 --> 00:07:56,344 Speaker 3: maybe horse tranquility, it was horse pills. There was something 157 00:07:56,344 --> 00:07:59,864 Speaker 3: around there. And the reason it became a biggertamine would. 158 00:07:59,584 --> 00:08:02,224 Speaker 2: Make him lose weight. I mean, I don't know. 159 00:08:02,704 --> 00:08:05,144 Speaker 3: I don't know. Again, I'm like a teenager sitting. 160 00:08:04,984 --> 00:08:08,064 Speaker 2: But everyone but everyone's on Zampi and Bonjaro now, so 161 00:08:08,104 --> 00:08:09,704 Speaker 2: I don't even know for a let to say those names. 162 00:08:09,744 --> 00:08:13,104 Speaker 2: Everyone's on the like weight loss drugs now anyway, But 163 00:08:13,224 --> 00:08:14,904 Speaker 2: she's always been very thin. 164 00:08:16,584 --> 00:08:18,904 Speaker 3: And she's always pushed back against that. So anyway, there 165 00:08:18,944 --> 00:08:21,504 Speaker 3: was some accusations around drug use, which she never really 166 00:08:21,584 --> 00:08:24,624 Speaker 3: talked about until. In fact, Rachel Zoe was the pioneer 167 00:08:24,664 --> 00:08:27,104 Speaker 3: for something that the Kardashians do a lot, which is 168 00:08:27,144 --> 00:08:29,704 Speaker 3: that they watch all the headlines blow up, they don't 169 00:08:29,744 --> 00:08:33,024 Speaker 3: say anything, and then they stage these scenes while they're 170 00:08:33,024 --> 00:08:35,704 Speaker 3: filming their reality shows months later and address at all 171 00:08:35,944 --> 00:08:37,864 Speaker 3: because it was so stage like they'd be in her 172 00:08:38,024 --> 00:08:39,624 Speaker 3: you know, she used had that dressing room in her house, 173 00:08:39,704 --> 00:08:41,624 Speaker 3: Rachel Zoe and all the slips would come in and 174 00:08:41,664 --> 00:08:43,584 Speaker 3: just try and all the dresses and fling all the 175 00:08:43,624 --> 00:08:45,544 Speaker 3: gowns around and it flooded once. Was the whole thing. 176 00:08:45,624 --> 00:08:47,544 Speaker 2: This is just like a rewatch of Rachel's open. 177 00:08:48,184 --> 00:08:50,904 Speaker 3: Well, she started doing a rewatch podcast and she stopped. 178 00:08:50,944 --> 00:08:54,304 Speaker 3: And I think it's because I hypothesize it's because the 179 00:08:54,344 --> 00:08:56,544 Speaker 3: host kept bringing up all of these scandals and she 180 00:08:56,544 --> 00:08:58,824 Speaker 3: didn't want to talk about it because she's very non scandal, 181 00:08:58,904 --> 00:09:01,944 Speaker 3: non confrontational. But they said to her on the show, 182 00:09:01,984 --> 00:09:04,784 Speaker 3: like her team members would say stuff that was very stage, 183 00:09:05,144 --> 00:09:08,224 Speaker 3: and they'd say, Rachel, there's all these reports that you're 184 00:09:08,264 --> 00:09:10,504 Speaker 3: giving the girls drugs and she was like, oh, oh 185 00:09:10,504 --> 00:09:12,624 Speaker 3: my god, where would I even get them from. I 186 00:09:12,624 --> 00:09:14,824 Speaker 3: don't know anything about that. I'm so busy. I just 187 00:09:14,824 --> 00:09:17,024 Speaker 3: come home. And it was like that's how she could 188 00:09:17,064 --> 00:09:17,584 Speaker 3: address it. 189 00:09:17,984 --> 00:09:20,944 Speaker 2: But I mean, look, the rachelso Project ended in twenty thirteen. 190 00:09:21,144 --> 00:09:25,344 Speaker 2: There's not been a lot around Rachel Zoe in terms 191 00:09:25,344 --> 00:09:28,144 Speaker 2: of like she really had her moment in that sort 192 00:09:28,144 --> 00:09:29,344 Speaker 2: of two thousand and eight thousand. 193 00:09:29,424 --> 00:09:31,864 Speaker 3: Ye, I don't think she's ten dialing as much. She 194 00:09:31,904 --> 00:09:34,104 Speaker 3: has her podcast. But that's the other biggest thing is 195 00:09:34,144 --> 00:09:36,784 Speaker 3: that her husband, Roger, who she was married to for 196 00:09:36,904 --> 00:09:38,584 Speaker 3: like thirty years. 197 00:09:38,344 --> 00:09:40,424 Speaker 2: Nearly, they've just got divorce again. 198 00:09:40,784 --> 00:09:43,384 Speaker 3: Mind bowing that that happened because they were always in 199 00:09:43,424 --> 00:09:45,744 Speaker 3: their like their career together. He was on the show 200 00:09:45,784 --> 00:09:47,424 Speaker 3: all the time, they went to events together like this 201 00:09:47,544 --> 00:09:52,264 Speaker 3: really famous, powerful entertainment industry duo. They've gotten divorced in 202 00:09:52,304 --> 00:09:54,584 Speaker 3: the last couple of months, which was really shocking to 203 00:09:54,584 --> 00:09:57,224 Speaker 3: people because they've been together since they were like basically children. 204 00:09:57,624 --> 00:10:00,824 Speaker 2: So then maybe there's gonna be like Kyle Richard, durek 205 00:10:00,944 --> 00:10:02,304 Speaker 2: Kemsley and. 206 00:10:02,544 --> 00:10:04,744 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they were like single girls now right, Well. 207 00:10:04,664 --> 00:10:08,424 Speaker 2: So Kyle Kyle obviously just is going through her separation 208 00:10:08,504 --> 00:10:12,384 Speaker 2: with Marizio, Dreet's going through with her separation with pick Hat, 209 00:10:12,624 --> 00:10:15,464 Speaker 2: and then Rachel going through her separation, So maybe they'll 210 00:10:15,504 --> 00:10:17,464 Speaker 2: be like the First Wives Club. 211 00:10:17,704 --> 00:10:19,144 Speaker 3: The one reason I don't watch your show is I 212 00:10:19,184 --> 00:10:20,864 Speaker 3: can't stand and they all yell and fight, like I 213 00:10:20,944 --> 00:10:24,104 Speaker 3: just can't handle that. But Rachel's is not a confrontational person, 214 00:10:24,144 --> 00:10:26,784 Speaker 3: but maybe maybe that'll maybe that'll come out in her. 215 00:10:26,944 --> 00:10:27,824 Speaker 3: It's also the first. 216 00:10:27,624 --> 00:10:30,824 Speaker 2: Bravo, Bravo, Bravo. Well, yeah, do you know do you 217 00:10:30,944 --> 00:10:31,824 Speaker 2: know what that reference? No? 218 00:10:31,864 --> 00:10:33,584 Speaker 3: I don't. I thought you're just yelling it and I'm not. 219 00:10:33,744 --> 00:10:36,504 Speaker 2: Okay. If you know Real Housewive Beverly Hills, you know that. 220 00:10:36,504 --> 00:10:39,824 Speaker 2: That's when Denise Ridges was on it and she basically 221 00:10:39,824 --> 00:10:42,024 Speaker 2: it was like a code for we're not talking about this, 222 00:10:42,104 --> 00:10:44,064 Speaker 2: and she went Bravo, Bravo, Bravo. 223 00:10:44,264 --> 00:10:46,504 Speaker 3: Oh she was another one. I was really shocked that 224 00:10:46,584 --> 00:10:49,024 Speaker 3: went on it, but in the same way that she's 225 00:10:49,064 --> 00:10:50,544 Speaker 3: been saying, I was just thought you were yelling brav 226 00:10:50,544 --> 00:10:52,264 Speaker 3: when I was like really into it and supporting you 227 00:10:52,304 --> 00:10:55,024 Speaker 3: in that endeavor, thank you. I actually just think she 228 00:10:55,064 --> 00:10:56,784 Speaker 3: will do that. She's been in reality TV shows for 229 00:10:56,824 --> 00:10:58,904 Speaker 3: a long time, but it's the first time she's not 230 00:10:58,984 --> 00:11:02,064 Speaker 3: like the star who can control her edit. Yeah, so 231 00:11:02,104 --> 00:11:03,624 Speaker 3: I don't know how she's going to go with that. 232 00:11:03,744 --> 00:11:07,824 Speaker 2: Well, Andy both yeah, Andy Cohen, is you know he's 233 00:11:08,344 --> 00:11:10,344 Speaker 2: got quite a few tricks up his sleeves, I'm sure, 234 00:11:10,544 --> 00:11:13,344 Speaker 2: or he's got some big plans for it. But look, 235 00:11:13,424 --> 00:11:18,424 Speaker 2: Season fourteen has just finished. That finished kind of in April, 236 00:11:18,624 --> 00:11:21,184 Speaker 2: so I'm imagining they're probably gonna start filming that in 237 00:11:21,224 --> 00:11:23,624 Speaker 2: the next couple of months, towards the end of this year, 238 00:11:23,664 --> 00:11:25,424 Speaker 2: and then we'll get it at the end of this 239 00:11:25,544 --> 00:11:27,584 Speaker 2: year and then through the next year. 240 00:11:27,784 --> 00:11:29,984 Speaker 3: I can't wait. I'll we watching for the first time ever. 241 00:11:30,224 --> 00:11:32,504 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, okay, we have to do. I like 242 00:11:32,664 --> 00:11:33,424 Speaker 2: your reaction. 243 00:11:35,944 --> 00:11:38,184 Speaker 3: So Meghan Mikel is back in the headlines this week. 244 00:11:38,184 --> 00:11:39,864 Speaker 3: I mean, where's she out of the headlines? But this 245 00:11:39,904 --> 00:11:42,264 Speaker 3: is actually quite fah no, Well, this is a stage 246 00:11:42,344 --> 00:11:44,104 Speaker 3: right now. Is like every week I look at the 247 00:11:44,144 --> 00:11:46,944 Speaker 3: fifteen or so Meghan Markel headlines and I only kind 248 00:11:46,944 --> 00:11:49,184 Speaker 3: of center in on the ones for us to chat 249 00:11:49,184 --> 00:11:51,544 Speaker 3: about that I think are giving something new and different 250 00:11:51,584 --> 00:11:54,584 Speaker 3: to the conversation. Also scandalous that we can't ignore. And 251 00:11:54,624 --> 00:11:57,624 Speaker 3: this kind of falls into both camps. So Meghan Markle 252 00:11:57,744 --> 00:12:00,904 Speaker 3: actually hasn't said anything about this whole situation. The person 253 00:12:00,944 --> 00:12:03,424 Speaker 3: who is at the center of this is actress Brookshields, 254 00:12:03,704 --> 00:12:06,944 Speaker 3: So Brookshields recently went on the Indie Hicks podcast called 255 00:12:06,984 --> 00:12:09,424 Speaker 3: the Indie Hicks Podcast Creative name Man, but at least 256 00:12:09,424 --> 00:12:11,664 Speaker 3: you know, no one's cutting home grass in that area. 257 00:12:12,064 --> 00:12:13,904 Speaker 3: So she was talking about a panel that she was 258 00:12:13,944 --> 00:12:16,504 Speaker 3: asked to be on alongside Megan Markle at south By 259 00:12:16,624 --> 00:12:19,944 Speaker 3: Southwest in March of last year. So the panel was 260 00:12:19,984 --> 00:12:22,464 Speaker 3: hosted by Katie Kirk and it was called Selick and 261 00:12:22,544 --> 00:12:24,064 Speaker 3: you take a deep breath before you say this. It 262 00:12:24,064 --> 00:12:26,864 Speaker 3: was for International Women's Day and it was called breaking Barriers 263 00:12:27,064 --> 00:12:30,264 Speaker 3: Shaping Narratives how women lead on and off the screen, 264 00:12:30,544 --> 00:12:33,464 Speaker 3: which is obviously very interesting. So Brooke was giving her 265 00:12:33,624 --> 00:12:36,584 Speaker 3: take on how the panel with Megan went, and these 266 00:12:36,664 --> 00:12:38,984 Speaker 3: few sentences from her went completely viral. 267 00:12:39,384 --> 00:12:44,264 Speaker 1: And she's doing south By Southwest, Big, big, big, They're 268 00:12:44,304 --> 00:12:47,384 Speaker 1: closing the middle arena. They we're closing it out. Were 269 00:12:47,384 --> 00:12:51,104 Speaker 1: the only one. It's thousands of people, it's Kitty Kirk, 270 00:12:51,504 --> 00:12:55,264 Speaker 1: Meghan Markle and a doctor and Kitty asks me to 271 00:12:55,304 --> 00:12:56,424 Speaker 1: be a part of it. 272 00:12:57,104 --> 00:12:59,704 Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, okay, okay, right, all right, 273 00:12:59,824 --> 00:13:02,224 Speaker 2: you know what, just do it. We get there. 274 00:13:02,344 --> 00:13:07,384 Speaker 1: Katy asks the first question to Megan and talks about 275 00:13:07,464 --> 00:13:10,824 Speaker 1: how you know, at a young age, she was already 276 00:13:11,464 --> 00:13:15,784 Speaker 1: advocating for women, etc. So she starts talking and telling 277 00:13:15,784 --> 00:13:18,304 Speaker 1: a story about how when she was eleven, and she 278 00:13:18,384 --> 00:13:20,424 Speaker 1: keeps saying, well, when I was eleven, I saw this 279 00:13:20,424 --> 00:13:23,904 Speaker 1: commercial and they were talking about washing dishes, and only 280 00:13:23,984 --> 00:13:27,024 Speaker 1: soap for washing dishes was for women. So I wrote 281 00:13:27,064 --> 00:13:29,744 Speaker 1: to the company. And when I was eleven, I wrote 282 00:13:29,784 --> 00:13:31,824 Speaker 1: my first letter. And then I was eleven. And she 283 00:13:31,904 --> 00:13:35,104 Speaker 1: kept saying she was eleven, She writes to the company, 284 00:13:35,184 --> 00:13:38,864 Speaker 1: they changed the text, they changed the commercial, and I go, 285 00:13:39,104 --> 00:13:42,464 Speaker 1: excuse me, I'm so sorry. I just I guys, just 286 00:13:42,544 --> 00:13:44,424 Speaker 1: interrupt you there for one minute. I was trying not 287 00:13:44,464 --> 00:13:46,664 Speaker 1: to be rude, but I wanted to be funny because 288 00:13:46,744 --> 00:13:50,304 Speaker 1: it was so serious, and I just want to give 289 00:13:50,344 --> 00:13:54,824 Speaker 1: everybody here a context as to how we're different. I said, well, 290 00:13:54,824 --> 00:13:58,184 Speaker 1: when I was eleven, I was playing a prostitute. The 291 00:13:58,264 --> 00:14:03,304 Speaker 1: place went insane, and then luckily it was more relaxed. 292 00:14:03,304 --> 00:14:06,664 Speaker 1: After that. It was just too precious, and I was like, 293 00:14:06,784 --> 00:14:08,864 Speaker 1: they're not gonna want to sit here for forty five 294 00:14:08,904 --> 00:14:12,384 Speaker 1: minutes and listen to anybody be precious, Like. 295 00:14:12,584 --> 00:14:14,744 Speaker 2: See, I love that. So so the film, she's actually 296 00:14:15,064 --> 00:14:17,784 Speaker 2: referring to Here is Pretty Baby, which was in nineteen 297 00:14:17,824 --> 00:14:20,824 Speaker 2: seventy eight. She's and that's that's the title of the 298 00:14:20,864 --> 00:14:24,504 Speaker 2: docu series that she did, so a lot behind Brookshields. 299 00:14:24,544 --> 00:14:27,824 Speaker 2: I absolutely loved that doco in nineteen seventy eight. She's 300 00:14:27,864 --> 00:14:30,504 Speaker 2: eleven years old and she's playing a prostitute. Like the 301 00:14:30,504 --> 00:14:32,464 Speaker 2: amount of inappropriate things that she had to go through 302 00:14:32,504 --> 00:14:35,304 Speaker 2: as a child actor, it's crazy. The way she was 303 00:14:35,464 --> 00:14:39,744 Speaker 2: treated is insane. I think the commentary she's making here 304 00:14:39,984 --> 00:14:43,344 Speaker 2: is can we just like cut the shit for a second. 305 00:14:44,304 --> 00:14:47,584 Speaker 2: We've heard this story, and I think with Megan, she 306 00:14:47,784 --> 00:14:51,384 Speaker 2: has told that story so many times, like everybody knows 307 00:14:51,424 --> 00:14:53,544 Speaker 2: that story. Even as we were listening to that audio 308 00:14:53,584 --> 00:14:56,384 Speaker 2: just then, I was like, oh, yes, I know when 309 00:14:56,424 --> 00:14:58,184 Speaker 2: you were eleven you wrote to the company and then 310 00:14:58,224 --> 00:15:00,384 Speaker 2: you changed it, and well you're such a great Like 311 00:15:00,424 --> 00:15:02,344 Speaker 2: it's great. It's an amazing thing for an eleven year 312 00:15:02,344 --> 00:15:04,784 Speaker 2: old to do. But the story has been told a 313 00:15:04,864 --> 00:15:08,584 Speaker 2: million times, So I kind of love that Brookshields kind 314 00:15:08,584 --> 00:15:11,344 Speaker 2: of just went cut the shit. Let's have a little 315 00:15:11,344 --> 00:15:14,384 Speaker 2: bit of fun here. Yeah, yes, we're talking about empowering women, 316 00:15:14,944 --> 00:15:17,064 Speaker 2: but we can also like lighten the mood a bit 317 00:15:17,184 --> 00:15:20,304 Speaker 2: like if we're losing the audience and we're losing thousands 318 00:15:20,384 --> 00:15:23,744 Speaker 2: of people, then like I'm going to try and pick 319 00:15:23,784 --> 00:15:25,064 Speaker 2: it up here. And that's a world. 320 00:15:24,864 --> 00:15:27,464 Speaker 3: Media tran Yeah, exactly. That's the thing like Brookshiels is 321 00:15:27,464 --> 00:15:29,904 Speaker 3: that she's been entertaining people since she was a child, 322 00:15:29,944 --> 00:15:32,424 Speaker 3: and she knows how to really hold a room and 323 00:15:32,424 --> 00:15:34,384 Speaker 3: she does talk about the serious stuff. I mean, especially 324 00:15:34,384 --> 00:15:36,264 Speaker 3: at that stage last year. The reason she was on 325 00:15:36,264 --> 00:15:38,384 Speaker 3: that panel is she was coming off the back of 326 00:15:38,464 --> 00:15:41,304 Speaker 3: like all the interviews and the doco series and everything 327 00:15:41,304 --> 00:15:42,904 Speaker 3: that she's kind of shone a line on with what 328 00:15:42,944 --> 00:15:44,624 Speaker 3: had happened to her in the industry and how she'd 329 00:15:44,664 --> 00:15:47,624 Speaker 3: been over sexualized as a child and everything she went 330 00:15:47,664 --> 00:15:50,384 Speaker 3: through with like being public about like her postpartum depression. 331 00:15:50,424 --> 00:15:52,304 Speaker 3: So she's she's done all that and she can talk 332 00:15:52,344 --> 00:15:54,664 Speaker 3: about the serious stuff. But I think she's such a 333 00:15:54,664 --> 00:15:57,664 Speaker 3: performer that she looked around the room and saw people faltering. 334 00:15:58,104 --> 00:16:00,864 Speaker 3: And it's hard because that Megan Michael's story. It's you 335 00:16:00,864 --> 00:16:03,824 Speaker 3: can see it's such a rehearsed moment for her, Like 336 00:16:03,904 --> 00:16:06,304 Speaker 3: she's told it in her Netflix documentary. She tells that 337 00:16:06,344 --> 00:16:09,984 Speaker 3: every podcast she's gone on. She's included in pieces she's written, 338 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:11,824 Speaker 3: and like I should say, there is a little bit 339 00:16:11,824 --> 00:16:14,224 Speaker 3: of a question mark over whether, like she actually had 340 00:16:14,264 --> 00:16:17,024 Speaker 3: the ad change. The ad was changed, but I don't 341 00:16:17,024 --> 00:16:18,984 Speaker 3: think the company's ever come out and said, yes, there's 342 00:16:18,984 --> 00:16:20,664 Speaker 3: eleven and who would you even track down at this 343 00:16:20,704 --> 00:16:23,144 Speaker 3: stage to confirm that that. Maybe there was like such 344 00:16:23,184 --> 00:16:26,704 Speaker 3: an international backlash against it that they changed it. But 345 00:16:27,024 --> 00:16:29,624 Speaker 3: Meghan's always kind of maintained that that has shaped who 346 00:16:29,664 --> 00:16:31,624 Speaker 3: she is, and she's become an activist because of that 347 00:16:31,864 --> 00:16:33,384 Speaker 3: and look good on her. When I was eleven, I 348 00:16:33,424 --> 00:16:36,944 Speaker 3: only cared about like Disney princesses and teenage meeting Ninja Turtles. 349 00:16:37,184 --> 00:16:39,264 Speaker 3: I still kind of do actually, so I wasn't writing 350 00:16:39,344 --> 00:16:41,904 Speaker 3: letters to anyone. But I feel like that's a safe 351 00:16:41,944 --> 00:16:45,104 Speaker 3: space for Meghan where she's like, I know this story 352 00:16:45,264 --> 00:16:47,264 Speaker 3: paints me in a great light. I know people have 353 00:16:47,304 --> 00:16:50,224 Speaker 3: responded to it positively in the past. I know that 354 00:16:50,264 --> 00:16:53,024 Speaker 3: it's usually a crowd pleaser. So she just rolls it 355 00:16:53,064 --> 00:16:55,984 Speaker 3: out because I think she's so aware of the backlash 356 00:16:55,984 --> 00:16:57,464 Speaker 3: she'll get if she puts like a foot wrong. 357 00:16:57,944 --> 00:17:00,024 Speaker 2: Do you know what those Well, it really reminds me 358 00:17:00,064 --> 00:17:02,584 Speaker 2: of like the Star is Born tour when lady gout, yeah, 359 00:17:02,664 --> 00:17:05,264 Speaker 2: there's a thousand people in the room and he's the 360 00:17:05,264 --> 00:17:07,744 Speaker 2: one that saw well, you know, like she told the 361 00:17:07,784 --> 00:17:10,104 Speaker 2: story so many times it it kind of became a joke, 362 00:17:11,264 --> 00:17:15,984 Speaker 2: even though this is a really amazing story, Like it's like, okay, 363 00:17:16,104 --> 00:17:17,064 Speaker 2: we've heard it. 364 00:17:17,184 --> 00:17:18,624 Speaker 3: That's the thing with Pressed Well too is at the 365 00:17:18,624 --> 00:17:22,104 Speaker 3: moment is that because everything now goes on TikTok and everything. 366 00:17:22,344 --> 00:17:24,224 Speaker 3: That's why like all the producers from all like the 367 00:17:24,304 --> 00:17:26,344 Speaker 3: late night shows always call the talent be like what 368 00:17:26,464 --> 00:17:28,464 Speaker 3: new story have you got? What can you give us? 369 00:17:28,704 --> 00:17:31,104 Speaker 3: And they give their best stories to like the places 370 00:17:31,144 --> 00:17:33,424 Speaker 3: with the biggest audience because people don't want to peat 371 00:17:33,464 --> 00:17:36,064 Speaker 3: themselves for that reason. In saying that, though it was 372 00:17:36,224 --> 00:17:38,304 Speaker 3: meant to be like a bit of a closed panel, 373 00:17:38,344 --> 00:17:40,424 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was like being blasted everywhere. 374 00:17:40,704 --> 00:17:43,384 Speaker 3: But it's interesting listening to Brookshields on the podcast, which 375 00:17:43,384 --> 00:17:46,304 Speaker 3: I should say the podcast deleted. From what I can tell, 376 00:17:46,384 --> 00:17:48,104 Speaker 3: it's been deleted today. I'm pretty sure it was live 377 00:17:48,184 --> 00:17:50,504 Speaker 3: yesterday when I was listening to it. Because this has 378 00:17:50,544 --> 00:17:54,224 Speaker 3: been picked up everywhere. People are like Brookshields has finally 379 00:17:54,304 --> 00:17:56,864 Speaker 3: said what no one would say about Megan Markle, which 380 00:17:56,984 --> 00:17:59,024 Speaker 3: is kind of fair, like no other famous woman has 381 00:17:59,424 --> 00:18:02,104 Speaker 3: openly said that Megan Markle is too precious. That's not 382 00:18:02,224 --> 00:18:05,184 Speaker 3: a complete live a headline, but it's been picked up everywhere. 383 00:18:05,224 --> 00:18:08,184 Speaker 3: Everyone's like, I'm team Brooke and I'm team Megan, and 384 00:18:08,264 --> 00:18:11,224 Speaker 3: it's like very push and pull. And if you listen 385 00:18:11,264 --> 00:18:13,344 Speaker 3: to the interview, it doesn't sound like Brooke was trying 386 00:18:13,344 --> 00:18:14,904 Speaker 3: to attack her in any way. 387 00:18:14,944 --> 00:18:16,424 Speaker 2: How do you listen to the whole podcast? 388 00:18:16,504 --> 00:18:18,064 Speaker 3: Yes, Oregon delete it. 389 00:18:18,544 --> 00:18:22,864 Speaker 2: So okay, this is like the Royal Family's involved for sure. 390 00:18:23,064 --> 00:18:26,624 Speaker 3: Well that's what people think, and potentially because of who 391 00:18:26,704 --> 00:18:30,024 Speaker 3: India Hicks is. So India Hicks was a model turned 392 00:18:30,184 --> 00:18:34,064 Speaker 3: entrepreneur podcast host, but her mother was a lady in 393 00:18:34,144 --> 00:18:38,944 Speaker 3: waiting to Queen Elizabeth. Her godfather is King Charles, and 394 00:18:39,224 --> 00:18:44,224 Speaker 3: she was a bridesmaid in Charles and Diana's wedding back 395 00:18:44,304 --> 00:18:46,704 Speaker 3: in the day. So she's not just in the royal family, 396 00:18:46,744 --> 00:18:49,504 Speaker 3: but she's like in the inner circle of the royal family. 397 00:18:49,544 --> 00:18:51,264 Speaker 3: Like she's seen all the skeletons. 398 00:18:51,344 --> 00:18:55,024 Speaker 2: I think she's gotten a call from someone and they're gone. 399 00:18:55,184 --> 00:18:58,024 Speaker 2: This is just like this is made allegedly. 400 00:18:58,184 --> 00:18:59,464 Speaker 3: Oh please hypothesize away. 401 00:18:59,504 --> 00:19:04,064 Speaker 2: I'm this hypothetheti. I think that someone's gone, you need 402 00:19:04,104 --> 00:19:05,384 Speaker 2: to take that down. 403 00:19:05,584 --> 00:19:07,384 Speaker 3: Well, I do think that's happened, But I actually think 404 00:19:07,384 --> 00:19:10,224 Speaker 3: that would come from Brookshields's team because for the Royal family, 405 00:19:10,704 --> 00:19:14,344 Speaker 3: this looks great for them because it's painted Meghan and Markel. Really. 406 00:19:14,424 --> 00:19:16,304 Speaker 3: I mean, I know she's the Duchess of Sussex, but 407 00:19:16,304 --> 00:19:18,264 Speaker 3: we're just gonna call her Megan. We're all friends by now. 408 00:19:18,464 --> 00:19:22,944 Speaker 3: It paints Megan actually hate Yeah, oh I know. She 409 00:19:23,064 --> 00:19:31,824 Speaker 3: we called her Megan, Meghan Sussex, Megan, Megan Meg. It's 410 00:19:28,784 --> 00:19:33,744 Speaker 3: like she's got a lot of names. That's fine, that's 411 00:19:33,784 --> 00:19:35,744 Speaker 3: just a fact. She always says to her friends, just 412 00:19:35,744 --> 00:19:37,464 Speaker 3: call me Meg. So maybe that's what we should do. 413 00:19:37,824 --> 00:19:40,224 Speaker 3: So I actually think that, well, at this stage, I've 414 00:19:40,224 --> 00:19:41,824 Speaker 3: defended that woman a lot. I've defended that. 415 00:19:42,704 --> 00:19:43,304 Speaker 2: I don't know. 416 00:19:44,424 --> 00:19:47,464 Speaker 3: So I actually think that it's Brookshields's team that are 417 00:19:47,464 --> 00:19:50,384 Speaker 3: behind this because she's come on to do this interview. 418 00:19:50,424 --> 00:19:53,744 Speaker 3: She's not usually confrontational about other celebrities, unless it's Tom 419 00:19:53,784 --> 00:19:56,144 Speaker 3: Cruise telling her that she shouldn't be taking drugs for 420 00:19:56,184 --> 00:19:58,904 Speaker 3: her postpartum depression. And that's a whole other situation. But 421 00:19:58,944 --> 00:20:02,024 Speaker 3: she's usually not very confrontational, and she even says at 422 00:20:02,024 --> 00:20:03,944 Speaker 3: the beginning, you might need to cut this out. I'm 423 00:20:03,944 --> 00:20:06,784 Speaker 3: just telling you. It's that moment where someone gives like 424 00:20:06,824 --> 00:20:09,544 Speaker 3: a small story in the midst of like a big, 425 00:20:09,584 --> 00:20:12,904 Speaker 3: wide ranging interview and it's gone viral. So I feel 426 00:20:12,904 --> 00:20:14,744 Speaker 3: like the royal family would be like, this looks great 427 00:20:14,744 --> 00:20:17,864 Speaker 3: for us because everyone's hating on Meg again. I actually 428 00:20:17,864 --> 00:20:19,664 Speaker 3: think it would be. I think it's Brooks team. We've 429 00:20:19,704 --> 00:20:22,664 Speaker 3: seen that it's gone everywhere. People are pitting them against 430 00:20:22,704 --> 00:20:25,424 Speaker 3: each other. Also a lot of people are saying that 431 00:20:25,584 --> 00:20:28,624 Speaker 3: Brooks Shields has been like aggressive and racist towards Meghan Markle. 432 00:20:29,024 --> 00:20:31,824 Speaker 3: It depends which social platform you look on which thread 433 00:20:31,904 --> 00:20:34,224 Speaker 3: where you're saying this. But I wonder if Brooks team 434 00:20:34,264 --> 00:20:35,744 Speaker 3: was like, hey, try to give you a nice interview, 435 00:20:35,744 --> 00:20:37,904 Speaker 3: can you just take that down? Because this is escalated 436 00:20:38,344 --> 00:20:41,224 Speaker 3: to an extent where every single news outlet today has 437 00:20:41,264 --> 00:20:44,104 Speaker 3: our two pictures and side by side again and like 438 00:20:44,184 --> 00:20:46,264 Speaker 3: kind of pushing against each other. And to be honest, 439 00:20:46,384 --> 00:20:48,544 Speaker 3: neither brook nor Meghan have come out of it great 440 00:20:48,624 --> 00:20:51,824 Speaker 3: because it's just escalated, like the worst stories about both 441 00:20:51,864 --> 00:20:53,864 Speaker 3: of them. Yeah, so at this stage, like it was 442 00:20:53,944 --> 00:20:55,864 Speaker 3: kind of like a small roll out effect, like first 443 00:20:55,904 --> 00:20:58,824 Speaker 3: the India Hicks podcast, like it took down the video. Now, 444 00:20:58,824 --> 00:21:01,264 Speaker 3: from what I can tell, the episode's gone down. I 445 00:21:01,304 --> 00:21:03,784 Speaker 3: haven't seen Brooks Shields comment directly on it, although I'm 446 00:21:03,824 --> 00:21:05,864 Speaker 3: sure she will at some stage. She's a pretty open book. 447 00:21:05,984 --> 00:21:08,544 Speaker 3: I haven't seen Meghan Markle comment on it. She's not 448 00:21:08,624 --> 00:21:09,984 Speaker 3: doing a lot of press at the moment. I don't 449 00:21:09,984 --> 00:21:11,984 Speaker 3: think she will until the next season of her Netflix 450 00:21:12,024 --> 00:21:14,904 Speaker 3: show comes out. But there's just no way she hasn't 451 00:21:14,944 --> 00:21:17,104 Speaker 3: seen the all encompassing headlines. 452 00:21:17,184 --> 00:21:18,504 Speaker 2: I don't even think it's that bad. 453 00:21:18,904 --> 00:21:21,224 Speaker 3: No, no, it's not the actual what she said in 454 00:21:21,264 --> 00:21:23,824 Speaker 3: the moment. Wasn't that bad of Brookshields being like I 455 00:21:23,864 --> 00:21:25,784 Speaker 3: was just trying to get the audience to laugh, and 456 00:21:25,904 --> 00:21:29,264 Speaker 3: it's like like that, No, it's those two words when 457 00:21:29,264 --> 00:21:32,184 Speaker 3: she said too precious, because that's what people have been 458 00:21:32,224 --> 00:21:34,824 Speaker 3: saying about Megamarkele, but no other famous woman has said it. 459 00:21:34,864 --> 00:21:37,864 Speaker 3: And it was that that has really kind of like 460 00:21:38,264 --> 00:21:40,464 Speaker 3: it's like a waving a red flag in front of 461 00:21:40,504 --> 00:21:43,664 Speaker 3: a herd of bulls. Now, everyone just ran towards it. Yeah, 462 00:21:43,704 --> 00:21:45,824 Speaker 3: I'll be interested to know what the fallout is when 463 00:21:45,824 --> 00:21:46,344 Speaker 3: that comes out. 464 00:21:46,384 --> 00:21:49,824 Speaker 2: We'll keep you posted. So we were going to stay 465 00:21:49,824 --> 00:21:52,704 Speaker 2: on Megamchael. Now, I think a big part of the 466 00:21:52,744 --> 00:21:55,904 Speaker 2: reason that Mega Michael is so protective of anytime she 467 00:21:55,944 --> 00:22:00,584 Speaker 2: says anything is because of the amount of rumors, conspiracy theories, 468 00:22:00,624 --> 00:22:04,664 Speaker 2: like the amount that comes off this woman is insane, 469 00:22:05,504 --> 00:22:08,944 Speaker 2: and it kind of links into this whole like I'm 470 00:22:08,984 --> 00:22:11,544 Speaker 2: sure you've seen that the depths of the Internet like 471 00:22:11,864 --> 00:22:16,064 Speaker 2: Reddit and YouTube and TikTok, there's this whole conspiracy theory 472 00:22:16,144 --> 00:22:18,544 Speaker 2: that she was never really pregnant, and there was that video. 473 00:22:18,744 --> 00:22:19,464 Speaker 2: Have you seen the. 474 00:22:19,504 --> 00:22:23,104 Speaker 3: Video, the one that she posted recently. Yeah, yeah, so 475 00:22:23,224 --> 00:22:25,824 Speaker 3: was it to celebrate And look, I defend Megan mark 476 00:22:25,864 --> 00:22:27,464 Speaker 3: lo over a lot. I can't get behind this name 477 00:22:27,544 --> 00:22:29,744 Speaker 3: because I kind of also love it. It was about 478 00:22:29,744 --> 00:22:34,544 Speaker 3: the birth of little Bit, right, I like, Lilla BET's cute, 479 00:22:35,264 --> 00:22:38,904 Speaker 3: just like such a funny name, a little bit I. 480 00:22:39,544 --> 00:22:41,424 Speaker 2: Bet, I do. I think it's really sad. 481 00:22:41,544 --> 00:22:43,464 Speaker 3: I believe me to you kind of like name a 482 00:22:43,544 --> 00:22:45,504 Speaker 3: child that, like, change your daughter's name to be a 483 00:22:45,504 --> 00:22:49,664 Speaker 3: little bet my daughter's Yeah, that's very cute, But I 484 00:22:49,704 --> 00:22:52,024 Speaker 3: think it's more the story behind it, where like, yeah, 485 00:22:52,144 --> 00:22:55,464 Speaker 3: it was the queen's nickname that her like I think 486 00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:58,464 Speaker 3: just her dad called her and then maybe her husband. Yeah, 487 00:22:58,504 --> 00:23:00,664 Speaker 3: and then when she was first born, they said the 488 00:23:00,704 --> 00:23:02,544 Speaker 3: Queen approved, and I was like, oh, that's cute, Like 489 00:23:02,584 --> 00:23:04,464 Speaker 3: maybe the Queen really wanted her to be called Lila 490 00:23:04,504 --> 00:23:06,424 Speaker 3: Bet and when like we'll throw a bone of cause 491 00:23:06,464 --> 00:23:08,344 Speaker 3: a bit of drama. But then all these stories have 492 00:23:08,424 --> 00:23:10,264 Speaker 3: come out. I have no basis for any of this 493 00:23:11,064 --> 00:23:13,704 Speaker 3: that she was quite like offended that they called their 494 00:23:13,784 --> 00:23:17,024 Speaker 3: daughter her private nickname. But again, a little bet. Look, 495 00:23:17,024 --> 00:23:19,264 Speaker 3: it's like I said, I both love it and hate it. 496 00:23:19,704 --> 00:23:22,064 Speaker 2: I think it's really sweet. But so the thing is, 497 00:23:22,104 --> 00:23:25,544 Speaker 2: there's this video going around where she's bending over and 498 00:23:25,624 --> 00:23:28,464 Speaker 2: the way her belly moves. People are saying that it's 499 00:23:28,504 --> 00:23:28,944 Speaker 2: a pillow. 500 00:23:29,624 --> 00:23:31,944 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's her and Prince Harry. They're in the hospital, 501 00:23:31,984 --> 00:23:34,144 Speaker 3: so it's an old it's obviously an older view. It's 502 00:23:34,184 --> 00:23:38,264 Speaker 3: to celebrate Littlebit's birthday and it's like between contractions and 503 00:23:38,264 --> 00:23:40,624 Speaker 3: they look so cute and happy, look so happy. They're 504 00:23:40,704 --> 00:23:43,064 Speaker 3: dancing around the hospital room. It was a TikTok trend 505 00:23:43,064 --> 00:23:44,664 Speaker 3: at the time, right that if you were in labor, 506 00:23:44,704 --> 00:23:47,384 Speaker 3: you would do a dance to this like particular song, 507 00:23:47,704 --> 00:23:50,064 Speaker 3: and they look really happy. And the way she's dancing 508 00:23:50,184 --> 00:23:52,224 Speaker 3: is like quite impressive for a woman who is like 509 00:23:52,304 --> 00:23:56,504 Speaker 3: so heavily pregnant. And then yeah, because her stomach moves 510 00:23:56,544 --> 00:23:58,384 Speaker 3: and she's wearing a billowy dress and the way she 511 00:23:58,504 --> 00:24:00,464 Speaker 3: holds it up and the way she presses it in. 512 00:24:00,544 --> 00:24:03,904 Speaker 3: Sometimes people have gone through and freeze framed all the 513 00:24:03,944 --> 00:24:07,304 Speaker 3: different clips and said that it's a fake stomach that's 514 00:24:07,304 --> 00:24:10,544 Speaker 3: attached and it's been like pre recorded and she's not 515 00:24:10,544 --> 00:24:12,544 Speaker 3: pregnant and you can tell by the videos. 516 00:24:12,784 --> 00:24:15,264 Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's just such crap, Like not all 517 00:24:15,304 --> 00:24:18,784 Speaker 2: pregnant bellies look the same, honestly, Like I have had 518 00:24:18,824 --> 00:24:22,504 Speaker 2: my criticisms of Medica remarkle, but why but you don't. 519 00:24:22,304 --> 00:24:24,224 Speaker 3: Think she's throwing a fake pregnancy belly? 520 00:24:24,624 --> 00:24:28,264 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like also, honestly, there are pregnant women whose bellies 521 00:24:28,304 --> 00:24:32,184 Speaker 2: are not like completely tight and taught and like you 522 00:24:32,224 --> 00:24:34,264 Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, I think it's because it 523 00:24:34,424 --> 00:24:36,664 Speaker 2: moves in a certain way, Like you can still have 524 00:24:36,824 --> 00:24:41,384 Speaker 2: fat on your stomach when you're pregnant, and it can 525 00:24:41,424 --> 00:24:43,704 Speaker 2: move in a different way and you can still like, 526 00:24:44,344 --> 00:24:46,504 Speaker 2: I think what we often see in the media with 527 00:24:46,584 --> 00:24:52,344 Speaker 2: pregnant bellies is really perfectly round, beautiful bumps. There's no 528 00:24:52,784 --> 00:24:57,064 Speaker 2: like ye fat anywhere. It's just like a belly. Yeah, 529 00:24:57,104 --> 00:24:58,624 Speaker 2: it's that's what we see a lot of. 530 00:24:58,864 --> 00:25:02,064 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that kind of conventionally beautiful figure that we've 531 00:25:02,264 --> 00:25:04,184 Speaker 3: been told is like how women should look. And then 532 00:25:04,224 --> 00:25:06,304 Speaker 3: like the little basketball pop, kind of like in that 533 00:25:06,344 --> 00:25:08,824 Speaker 3: movie What to Expect, You're Expecting, where they have like 534 00:25:08,864 --> 00:25:12,224 Speaker 3: the pregnancy unicorn, when thing about you looks pregnant, except 535 00:25:12,264 --> 00:25:13,944 Speaker 3: you have a little pop of a stomach y which 536 00:25:14,104 --> 00:25:16,024 Speaker 3: instantly goes away the moment you have a baby, which 537 00:25:16,064 --> 00:25:17,304 Speaker 3: is not what happens to most women. 538 00:25:17,464 --> 00:25:21,184 Speaker 2: I once had when I was pregnant with my first 539 00:25:21,584 --> 00:25:25,704 Speaker 2: I had a gentleman come from behind. I've never met 540 00:25:25,704 --> 00:25:28,424 Speaker 2: this metaphor come from behind. He goes, you're having a boy. 541 00:25:28,464 --> 00:25:31,264 Speaker 2: I can tell because you're carrying from the back. 542 00:25:31,664 --> 00:25:36,784 Speaker 3: Oh Jesus. And I was like, don't don't gross f 543 00:25:36,864 --> 00:25:38,304 Speaker 3: you do. You also have a lot of people just 544 00:25:38,544 --> 00:25:40,064 Speaker 3: lean over and touch your stomach, you. 545 00:25:40,104 --> 00:25:41,944 Speaker 2: Know, But I just was like, I was like, you're 546 00:25:42,104 --> 00:25:45,824 Speaker 2: so you're basically saying that I'm like bigger in the back, 547 00:25:45,984 --> 00:25:49,424 Speaker 2: Like that's what that is. You're calling me fat and 548 00:25:49,464 --> 00:25:51,064 Speaker 2: I'm pregnant right now and I'm going to punch you 549 00:25:51,104 --> 00:25:53,184 Speaker 2: in the face. Yeah, like that kind of aggression, that 550 00:25:53,184 --> 00:25:56,464 Speaker 2: pregnancy as I love that, But not all bellies look 551 00:25:56,504 --> 00:25:58,744 Speaker 2: the same. My whole point of telling that story is 552 00:25:58,784 --> 00:26:01,224 Speaker 2: not all pregnant bellies look the same. Not everybody's gonna 553 00:26:01,264 --> 00:26:03,824 Speaker 2: have like this difference. And I just think it's a 554 00:26:03,864 --> 00:26:07,544 Speaker 2: weird thing to like have a conspiracy theory and I'm not, but. 555 00:26:07,664 --> 00:26:11,064 Speaker 3: It's like, why why would they do that? Why? Well, 556 00:26:11,104 --> 00:26:12,904 Speaker 3: I think it just everyone kind of wants to lean 557 00:26:12,984 --> 00:26:16,064 Speaker 3: too this idea that she's lying, that she's manipulative, that 558 00:26:16,144 --> 00:26:18,984 Speaker 3: she and Harry have put up this fate facade. And 559 00:26:19,064 --> 00:26:21,984 Speaker 3: they did get a lot of really positive publicity with 560 00:26:22,024 --> 00:26:24,144 Speaker 3: both their pregnancies, like anyone does because like that's a 561 00:26:24,184 --> 00:26:27,064 Speaker 3: beautiful story and people like that. But with Lillabet's pregnancy, 562 00:26:27,144 --> 00:26:29,344 Speaker 3: it was such a big deal for like their public 563 00:26:29,424 --> 00:26:32,784 Speaker 3: narrative because they'd broken away from the Royal family. They'd 564 00:26:32,824 --> 00:26:35,064 Speaker 3: been in hiding in Canada. They'd had to flee when 565 00:26:35,064 --> 00:26:38,624 Speaker 3: COVID was happening and go and stay in like you know, 566 00:26:38,704 --> 00:26:42,344 Speaker 3: in isolation in La and then she wrote that op 567 00:26:42,464 --> 00:26:45,264 Speaker 3: ed remember about having the miscarriage and how traumatic that was. 568 00:26:45,344 --> 00:26:48,224 Speaker 3: And then months passed and no one saw them, and 569 00:26:48,184 --> 00:26:50,304 Speaker 3: they released this photo where she was pregnant. It was 570 00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:52,904 Speaker 3: like this big, joyful, lovely thing. So I think it's 571 00:26:52,944 --> 00:26:56,664 Speaker 3: people saying like you manufacture that whole story, like the pregnancy, 572 00:26:56,704 --> 00:26:59,504 Speaker 3: loss and being in hiding, and you only release that 573 00:26:59,584 --> 00:27:01,904 Speaker 3: one photo. And I guess when she was pregnant Archie, 574 00:27:01,984 --> 00:27:03,864 Speaker 3: because she was such a public figure then she was 575 00:27:03,904 --> 00:27:06,424 Speaker 3: a working royal. You were seeing her like out and 576 00:27:06,464 --> 00:27:08,824 Speaker 3: about when she was like quite heavily pregnant. And then 577 00:27:09,304 --> 00:27:11,024 Speaker 3: even though she didn't do the coming out of the 578 00:27:11,024 --> 00:27:13,864 Speaker 3: hospital steps like most royals do, she and Harry did 579 00:27:13,944 --> 00:27:18,624 Speaker 3: like hold that photo Opena with photography birth and she 580 00:27:18,704 --> 00:27:20,904 Speaker 3: came out. And also like physically she looks different, like 581 00:27:20,944 --> 00:27:22,624 Speaker 3: she looked like she had given birth, but like you 582 00:27:22,664 --> 00:27:24,424 Speaker 3: didn't have that access with the labete. So I think 583 00:27:24,424 --> 00:27:25,384 Speaker 3: that's where it comes from. 584 00:27:25,464 --> 00:27:27,744 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also like it was COVID, like. 585 00:27:27,664 --> 00:27:31,024 Speaker 3: We no, I know, you shouldn't have to walk out down. 586 00:27:31,184 --> 00:27:33,144 Speaker 3: I understand why the royals feel they have to do 587 00:27:33,144 --> 00:27:35,704 Speaker 3: it because it's like part of their duty. Yeah, but 588 00:27:35,744 --> 00:27:37,824 Speaker 3: I don't think you'd have to walk down hospital steps 589 00:27:37,864 --> 00:27:40,104 Speaker 3: once you've given birth. But also a lot of other 590 00:27:40,144 --> 00:27:43,344 Speaker 3: famous women have been accused of faking their pregnancies. Its 591 00:27:43,344 --> 00:27:46,104 Speaker 3: just a weird thing to like people still think a 592 00:27:46,224 --> 00:27:48,744 Speaker 3: hundred people in the world, like, so many people still 593 00:27:48,784 --> 00:27:51,784 Speaker 3: one hundred percent think that Beyonce faked hebe Do you 594 00:27:51,784 --> 00:27:53,704 Speaker 3: remember that? Because when she was pregnant with Blue Ivy, 595 00:27:53,984 --> 00:27:56,304 Speaker 3: she went and did that TV appearance and she walks 596 00:27:56,344 --> 00:27:59,184 Speaker 3: out and she leans in and like it is a 597 00:27:59,224 --> 00:28:02,024 Speaker 3: weird angle, but we did a weird camera. It looks 598 00:28:02,064 --> 00:28:05,384 Speaker 3: like her stomach completely folds over and falls out and 599 00:28:05,424 --> 00:28:07,864 Speaker 3: then pops back in. And in that video, if you 600 00:28:07,904 --> 00:28:10,064 Speaker 3: watch the way it's filmed, it one hundred percent looks 601 00:28:10,064 --> 00:28:13,224 Speaker 3: like she's wearing like a tie on stomach made of 602 00:28:13,264 --> 00:28:16,384 Speaker 3: like rubber or something folded and then it pops back 603 00:28:16,384 --> 00:28:19,104 Speaker 3: into place. But I just do think that it was 604 00:28:19,424 --> 00:28:22,664 Speaker 3: probably just the camera. Angley's probably just the camerangle. 605 00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:25,824 Speaker 2: Again, Like honestly, when I bent over when I was pregnant, 606 00:28:25,944 --> 00:28:27,984 Speaker 2: sometimes my tummy will move in a weird way. 607 00:28:28,424 --> 00:28:30,664 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I also think, like if you are wearing 608 00:28:30,664 --> 00:28:33,184 Speaker 3: a fake stomach and faking a pregnancy. I don't know 609 00:28:33,184 --> 00:28:35,464 Speaker 3: if you'd be walking around a TV studio and doing 610 00:28:35,504 --> 00:28:38,064 Speaker 3: live TV. That's the only thing is like you would 611 00:28:38,064 --> 00:28:40,184 Speaker 3: just kind of be like being photographed from a distance. 612 00:28:40,224 --> 00:28:42,744 Speaker 3: Like Beyonce is only out and seen when she wants 613 00:28:42,784 --> 00:28:45,464 Speaker 3: to be, so she wouldn't be. 614 00:28:45,504 --> 00:28:48,184 Speaker 2: If they really wanted to. These people have accessed so 615 00:28:48,784 --> 00:28:52,624 Speaker 2: much money. Do you know how realistic you could make 616 00:28:52,704 --> 00:28:55,344 Speaker 2: a baby bump? B loook? We're not going on Amazon 617 00:28:55,384 --> 00:28:57,624 Speaker 2: and buying a cheap one from like. 618 00:28:57,824 --> 00:28:58,784 Speaker 3: It's not a folded pip. 619 00:28:58,904 --> 00:29:01,944 Speaker 2: It's not like a folded like come on, guys. 620 00:29:02,184 --> 00:29:04,224 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, these are people with access to like well 621 00:29:04,224 --> 00:29:06,784 Speaker 3: well yeah, all the kind of Hollywood studio stuff, full. 622 00:29:06,624 --> 00:29:09,304 Speaker 2: Prosthetics like you've seen in movies now they do the 623 00:29:09,344 --> 00:29:11,344 Speaker 2: full prosthetic stumay and they look real. 624 00:29:11,624 --> 00:29:14,184 Speaker 3: They have veins and everything. If you look in graz anatomy. Yeah, 625 00:29:14,304 --> 00:29:16,784 Speaker 3: I really want a pillow. I want one celeb to 626 00:29:16,824 --> 00:29:17,904 Speaker 3: do that. The thing is, if you look at a 627 00:29:17,944 --> 00:29:20,224 Speaker 3: photo anyway, like at the moment, do you know how 628 00:29:20,224 --> 00:29:21,624 Speaker 3: many people at the moment have come up to me 629 00:29:21,664 --> 00:29:24,264 Speaker 3: and said, like Taylor Swift is pregnant, Like She's just pregnant. 630 00:29:24,304 --> 00:29:26,904 Speaker 3: There's no question about it. And first of all, I 631 00:29:26,904 --> 00:29:28,744 Speaker 3: think there's two ends of the spectrum. Women are either 632 00:29:28,784 --> 00:29:31,184 Speaker 3: faking their pregnancies or they're hiding their baby bump sis. 633 00:29:31,864 --> 00:29:32,184 Speaker 2: I hate it. 634 00:29:32,224 --> 00:29:35,344 Speaker 3: I hate it with the Taylor sis stuff. I'm like, well, 635 00:29:35,384 --> 00:29:37,024 Speaker 3: she might be pregnant. I don't know. I don't know it. 636 00:29:37,104 --> 00:29:38,424 Speaker 3: I don't know anyone in her in a circle. I 637 00:29:38,464 --> 00:29:40,664 Speaker 3: have no idea. But I don't think you can tell 638 00:29:40,744 --> 00:29:42,944 Speaker 3: that she's pregnant from these few photos that are flying 639 00:29:43,024 --> 00:29:46,304 Speaker 3: around that are just an odd angle of her leaving 640 00:29:46,344 --> 00:29:48,704 Speaker 3: a restaurant, and if it was taken from the other side, 641 00:29:48,704 --> 00:29:49,584 Speaker 3: she wouldn't look pregnant. 642 00:29:49,744 --> 00:29:51,704 Speaker 2: Also, do you know why that really pisses me off? 643 00:29:51,864 --> 00:29:54,664 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift has been really open about having issues with 644 00:29:54,864 --> 00:29:57,944 Speaker 2: like an eating disorder and talking about how much that 645 00:29:58,064 --> 00:30:01,344 Speaker 2: affected her. Telling someone that you think that they look 646 00:30:01,424 --> 00:30:05,144 Speaker 2: pregnant when they're not is really like, and if you've 647 00:30:05,184 --> 00:30:07,064 Speaker 2: suffered with eating disorders in the past the way that 648 00:30:07,144 --> 00:30:09,304 Speaker 2: she has, because she's so scrutinized by the press. 649 00:30:09,144 --> 00:30:13,424 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like really really had damaging And if she. 650 00:30:13,744 --> 00:30:16,744 Speaker 2: Was trying to get pregnant, that I couldn't get pregnant, 651 00:30:17,064 --> 00:30:18,904 Speaker 2: and this I think I get really sensitive about this 652 00:30:19,024 --> 00:30:22,304 Speaker 2: because of what I went through with my first baby. 653 00:30:22,704 --> 00:30:24,784 Speaker 2: When people would be like, Oh, you're pregnant, aren't you, 654 00:30:24,984 --> 00:30:28,704 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm just fat from IVF. Thanks for asking. 655 00:30:29,144 --> 00:30:33,944 Speaker 2: So I just don't bank comments about women and babies 656 00:30:34,024 --> 00:30:36,024 Speaker 2: and their bodies, like do not do it. I get 657 00:30:36,144 --> 00:30:38,344 Speaker 2: really like it's like a real touch point for me, 658 00:30:39,024 --> 00:30:40,784 Speaker 2: So that really bothers me. 659 00:30:41,184 --> 00:30:43,824 Speaker 3: It is, yeah, and it's just about people wanting I think, 660 00:30:43,864 --> 00:30:46,344 Speaker 3: for her in particular, like some new narratives, some new 661 00:30:46,344 --> 00:30:48,024 Speaker 3: because she wasn't seen for a while. Then she was 662 00:30:48,064 --> 00:30:51,664 Speaker 3: seen popping out of these different restaurants. And again, it's 663 00:30:51,704 --> 00:30:53,664 Speaker 3: all about the angle that you get and the way 664 00:30:53,704 --> 00:30:56,424 Speaker 3: you shoot, like anyone can look anything in those different angles. 665 00:30:56,624 --> 00:30:58,824 Speaker 3: And I do think like a lot of traditional media 666 00:30:58,824 --> 00:31:02,104 Speaker 3: outlets who used to say like such pregnant wouldn't touch 667 00:31:02,144 --> 00:31:04,224 Speaker 3: it now. And I think one of the best things 668 00:31:04,264 --> 00:31:07,064 Speaker 3: I've ever seen is when Rihanna was at the Super 669 00:31:07,104 --> 00:31:09,864 Speaker 3: Bowl and she did have a baby bump, and no 670 00:31:10,024 --> 00:31:12,504 Speaker 3: one except for a few randoms on Twitter, but no 671 00:31:12,784 --> 00:31:15,624 Speaker 3: outlets said anything. And afterwards there was a lot of 672 00:31:15,704 --> 00:31:18,064 Speaker 3: bad commentary about this as being like, Oh, everyone's pretending 673 00:31:18,104 --> 00:31:19,824 Speaker 3: she wasn't pregnant and they were too scared to say it. 674 00:31:19,904 --> 00:31:22,304 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, that's what we call progress. 675 00:31:22,624 --> 00:31:26,304 Speaker 2: Yeah, you come out out say it. Allow when someone 676 00:31:26,504 --> 00:31:28,344 Speaker 2: is ready to tell you that they are pregnant. We've 677 00:31:28,344 --> 00:31:31,024 Speaker 2: gone off topic here, but I'm like really passionate about this. Yeah, 678 00:31:31,224 --> 00:31:33,784 Speaker 2: someone will tell you that they are pregnant when they 679 00:31:33,824 --> 00:31:36,104 Speaker 2: are ready. Yeah, do not ask them if they're not 680 00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:37,864 Speaker 2: having a directory and be like, oh, are you're pregnant, 681 00:31:38,024 --> 00:31:41,144 Speaker 2: don't do it. Maybe they're trying exactly. There's this so 682 00:31:41,264 --> 00:31:44,024 Speaker 2: many things I'm very passionate about that I don't know and. 683 00:31:44,024 --> 00:31:46,344 Speaker 3: I understand that, and there's again any kind of comments 684 00:31:46,384 --> 00:31:50,464 Speaker 3: around like body weight. Fertility is just like very messed 685 00:31:50,504 --> 00:31:52,544 Speaker 3: up because there's so many layers to it, and it's 686 00:31:52,664 --> 00:31:55,144 Speaker 3: kind of this thing of like people like demanding and 687 00:31:55,224 --> 00:31:57,504 Speaker 3: I think that's where like it's so odd to tie 688 00:31:57,864 --> 00:32:01,384 Speaker 3: faked pregnancies and like people looking for baby bumps together. 689 00:32:01,904 --> 00:32:03,464 Speaker 3: But it's all the same, it's all coming from the 690 00:32:03,504 --> 00:32:06,984 Speaker 3: same place of people looking at these very scrutinized videos 691 00:32:07,064 --> 00:32:08,944 Speaker 3: and photos of women and trying to like pick apart 692 00:32:09,024 --> 00:32:12,464 Speaker 3: what's happening to like have a gotcha moment and be 693 00:32:12,584 --> 00:32:14,304 Speaker 3: the first one to sort of know, well, like have 694 00:32:14,544 --> 00:32:17,344 Speaker 3: some kind of conspiracy theory. So again, I know we've 695 00:32:17,384 --> 00:32:19,464 Speaker 3: gone off on a tangent, but important it was. 696 00:32:19,664 --> 00:32:21,624 Speaker 2: But I felt very very passionate about that. 697 00:32:22,504 --> 00:32:25,744 Speaker 3: It goes back into even though what Brookshield said was 698 00:32:25,864 --> 00:32:28,824 Speaker 3: very lighthearted, it goes back into that thing of like, 699 00:32:28,944 --> 00:32:30,584 Speaker 3: this is why Megan Markle I think, why she's so 700 00:32:30,704 --> 00:32:33,464 Speaker 3: scared to say anything or look a certain way or 701 00:32:33,584 --> 00:32:36,304 Speaker 3: do anything because she knows. All she did was post 702 00:32:36,384 --> 00:32:39,424 Speaker 3: a video of her dancing before her daughter was born, 703 00:32:39,744 --> 00:32:42,624 Speaker 3: looking really happy, and then Prince Harry's dancing and they 704 00:32:42,664 --> 00:32:44,424 Speaker 3: look really cute. They look so in love. 705 00:32:44,584 --> 00:32:46,904 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'd probably be pretty precious too if 706 00:32:47,184 --> 00:32:48,584 Speaker 2: that was the way people respond. 707 00:32:48,704 --> 00:32:51,224 Speaker 3: What has come from that is people being like she 708 00:32:51,384 --> 00:32:54,384 Speaker 3: has faked a pregnancy and where did that child come from? 709 00:32:54,584 --> 00:32:56,504 Speaker 3: And it's just like, can't have this is all be 710 00:32:56,624 --> 00:32:57,264 Speaker 3: kind of nice things. 711 00:32:57,344 --> 00:32:57,544 Speaker 1: I know. 712 00:32:58,424 --> 00:33:00,944 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for listening to the Spill today, 713 00:33:01,064 --> 00:33:03,744 Speaker 3: and don't forget to follow the Spill on TikTok, follow 714 00:33:03,824 --> 00:33:06,224 Speaker 3: us on Instagram so you don't miss any of our 715 00:33:06,304 --> 00:33:09,304 Speaker 3: videos that we post. 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