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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Please please please From Mumma Mia. Welcome to the Spills

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Speaker 2: watch Party, where we unpack the biggest shows that the

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Speaker 2: world is talking about. And right now we are all

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Speaker 2: quivering with absolute excitement that the Tom Romcom Bridgeton is

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Speaker 2: back with season four. My name is Grace Rubrey. I'm

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Speaker 2: a producer and host here at Mamma Mia, and I've

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Speaker 2: also worked in film and TV for the past fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: across acting, writing, production, post production, and casting. So I

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Speaker 2: come with a lot of knowledge. But most importantly, I

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Speaker 2: have watched every single thing that's Shonda Rhime's has ever made.

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Speaker 2: I would call myself a Shonda super fan. And I'm

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Speaker 2: joined today by two of my fellow Bridgeton addicts, and

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Speaker 2: I want to start the Today's conversation with what is

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Speaker 2: Gray's Anatomy, but with a caveat, specifically from season one

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Speaker 2: to season six, from the one Night Stand to the shooting.

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Speaker 2: Everything in there is my favorite. I'm going to hand

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Speaker 2: it over to Georgie for her to introduce herself.

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Speaker 3: My name is Georgie Page. I look after all the

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Speaker 3: entertainment podcasts we do here at Mamma Maya. I am

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Speaker 3: a complete Bridgeton superfan. I've got Bridgeton pajamas. I'm really

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Speaker 3: deep in the online fandom, and I'm also really interested

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Speaker 3: in all the regency information. I can't wait to share

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Speaker 3: some of that with you. Apart from Bridgington, I am

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Speaker 4: Super fan as well.

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Speaker 2: Amazing and over to you Live.

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Speaker 1: I'm Liv James. I'm our content editor for our gen

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Speaker 1: Z brand. No, and I would say I'm a professional yearner. Guys,

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Speaker 1: I am yearning in every aspect of my life, which

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Speaker 1: is why Shonder definitely has a place in my heart.

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Speaker 1: My favorite show is Queen Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely, Okay, So in today's episode, we have scoured

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Speaker 2: the Internet and dug deep into Bridgeton Law to gather

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Speaker 2: everything you need to know before you watch season four.

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Speaker 2: We're going to tell you the clues we have gathered

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Speaker 2: plus all the Easter eggs and hints from the trailers

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Speaker 2: and cast interviews. Plus there are some intriguing and hugely

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Speaker 2: entertaining fan theories from deep in the internet about how

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Speaker 2: they're going to bring Benedict and Sophie's love story to

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Speaker 2: the screen. All right, shall we get into it. Let's

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Speaker 2: do it, Okay, So I want to start off with

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Speaker 2: Julia Quinn is the writer of Bridgeton and how this

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Speaker 2: got turned into a series was Shonda Rhymes was on holidays,

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Speaker 2: she got the flu. She was reading a bunch of

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Speaker 2: she found Bridgeton. I want to quote one thing that

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Speaker 2: that my life would be completely different if Shonda Rhymes

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Speaker 2: hadn't have gotten the flu and been on holidays. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's such a wonderful.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just on a bookshelf.

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Speaker 3: It was like a book exchange. Now, I love a

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Speaker 3: could be the next big Netflix. Sure, but don't you

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Speaker 3: think it's funny because when you're sick and you have

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Speaker 4: Oh no, it is great, it's une serious.

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Speaker 2: She had her notes app open. I imagine the first

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Speaker 2: To me, Bridgeton is a workplace drama because in regency

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Speaker 2: era society, women have power only in who and how

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Speaker 1: True, and it links to everything that she's ever done.

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Speaker 3: Really, I really get that, because I think it's about

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Speaker 1: I wonder if she had the flu when she decided

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Speaker 2: run through some fastbacks as to how Bridgeton has become

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Speaker 2: Bridgeton has officially been recognized by the Guinness World Records

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Speaker 3: Yes, Series one, episode one, they're banging against a tree

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Speaker 4: You know what you're getting into straightaway.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I think it's important to note Netflix on

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Speaker 2: So interesting. Nicola Coughlan tell us a funny story on

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Speaker 2: she had to tell her grad that the post wedding

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were intense.

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Speaker 2: They were quite intense, and as of twenty and twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Reports show that Bridgeton is the most streamed original series

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Speaker 2: billion viewing minutes. Much of that was driven by Season three,

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Speaker 2: which we're going to get into why that was so

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Speaker 4: I think only about half of them would be US three.

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Speaker 3: And also we love books here at Mama Mia as well,

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Speaker 3: and I love that Season one came out Christmas Day

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty. By January, the Duke and I, the book

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Speaker 4: Julia Quinn hit the stratosphere.

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably important to note at this point

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because far more people watching this have

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Speaker 2: It has been a long wait between seasons two years.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get into that later. So at this point,

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Speaker 2: on the twenty ninth of January.

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Speaker 1: So the season's most notorious gentleman, Benedicte Brigitton, He must

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Speaker 2: Mothers do simply must marry. You have not met the

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Speaker 2: right young lady. I am charclinghi adventures and.

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Speaker 4: Course you're right. All the eyes as a tongue will

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Speaker 2: Just once, just to have that feeling for one glorious night,

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Speaker 4: Disguised just to be out by midnight. I cannot dance

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Speaker 5: Behind the cover of a mask, anything can happen.

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Speaker 4: We must find the owner of this glove.

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Speaker 2: He sounds as if you had been made a new man.

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Speaker 2: This book is based on Benedict, Benedict Bridgititon and him

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Speaker 1: This is one of my passion projects. Look, Benedict, he's

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Speaker 1: And that is also how people predict who's going to

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Speaker 2: We'll have a hotness tracker of all of the kids.

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Speaker 1: Who's looking like they're hitting the gym a little bit more?

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Speaker 2: how they styled him and how they did his hair. True,

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Speaker 1: Now, yes, so that is obviously. I mean, we all

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Speaker 2: He's absolutely a free spirit, and.

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Speaker 2: It's none of them really want to be tied down,

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Speaker 3: The thing I love about Benedict is that he has

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Speaker 2: the show that they can trust that they're going to

435
00:20:20,674 --> 00:20:23,314
Speaker 2: carry it with the same feeling that an audience isn't

436
00:20:23,354 --> 00:20:26,514
Speaker 2: going to notice, like WHOA, something something different has happened here,

437
00:20:26,514 --> 00:20:29,354
Speaker 2: which I'm sure other watch parties will get into when

438
00:20:29,434 --> 00:20:30,874
Speaker 2: something's changed, you can tell.

439
00:20:31,074 --> 00:20:34,154
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually that makes a lot of sense. For some reason,

440
00:20:34,234 --> 00:20:37,274
Speaker 1: show runner reminds me of like, I don't know, maybe

441
00:20:37,314 --> 00:20:40,234
Speaker 1: it's like working in hospit and being a runners. Just

442
00:20:40,274 --> 00:20:42,273
Speaker 1: like I'm like, are they the ones getting the coffee

443
00:20:42,314 --> 00:20:42,674
Speaker 1: and stuff?

444
00:20:42,714 --> 00:20:45,674
Speaker 2: No, there's many assistants and many runners. But that was

445
00:20:45,714 --> 00:20:47,434
Speaker 2: my first job in this industry, being a runner.

446
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Speaker 1: See Okay, So that's like where I'm like, what's going on?

447
00:20:50,274 --> 00:20:51,114
Speaker 1: They need a different name?

448
00:20:51,474 --> 00:20:54,273
Speaker 2: Well, creator. I feel like he's like a showrunner, but

449
00:20:54,314 --> 00:20:56,874
Speaker 2: a showrunner. I watched a documentary on showrunners once, and

450
00:20:56,914 --> 00:20:58,874
Speaker 2: I think the best quote to describe it says, your

451
00:20:58,954 --> 00:21:01,114
Speaker 2: job is to be hated by every department, and then

452
00:21:01,234 --> 00:21:04,714
Speaker 2: you're doing a good job. Maybe not in Shondaland because

453
00:21:04,754 --> 00:21:07,114
Speaker 2: she doesn't believe in assholes. You got to be nice.

454
00:21:07,234 --> 00:21:09,314
Speaker 2: So I'm curious. But you've got to be the one

455
00:21:09,394 --> 00:21:12,474
Speaker 2: pushing and pushing and pushing to make sure exactly what

456
00:21:12,514 --> 00:21:17,634
Speaker 2: you want is the performances, the shots, the music, the editing, everything.

457
00:21:17,634 --> 00:21:19,634
Speaker 2: It's your job to make sure it links back to

458
00:21:19,634 --> 00:21:20,073
Speaker 2: the Bible.

459
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Speaker 4: Fascinating Dan.

460
00:21:21,234 --> 00:21:23,754
Speaker 1: The more you know, hey, wow, well.

461
00:21:23,634 --> 00:21:25,474
Speaker 2: I mean one of the things that obviously they're in

462
00:21:25,514 --> 00:21:28,234
Speaker 2: control of is making sure that the costumes link and

463
00:21:28,874 --> 00:21:31,874
Speaker 2: the music fits in tonally with what we've seen, and

464
00:21:31,954 --> 00:21:35,794
Speaker 2: it's such an iconic way that Bridgeton does this, Georgie.

465
00:21:35,834 --> 00:21:38,274
Speaker 2: Is there anything that we know about this season from

466
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Speaker 2: the costumes or the seasons that they do, or any

467
00:21:41,554 --> 00:21:44,154
Speaker 2: artists that they're going to cover of their music, Grace, We.

468
00:21:44,074 --> 00:21:47,354
Speaker 3: Actually know a shockingly large amount considering it's not even

469
00:21:47,394 --> 00:21:50,314
Speaker 3: out for another week. So this is the first season

470
00:21:50,514 --> 00:21:53,554
Speaker 3: that has the majority of its set in autumn, So

471
00:21:53,594 --> 00:21:56,154
Speaker 3: the colors of this season are going to be different

472
00:21:56,714 --> 00:21:59,033
Speaker 3: still to keep the og fans happy. There's still going

473
00:21:59,074 --> 00:22:01,914
Speaker 3: to be pastors, that's vital. There's going to be more

474
00:22:01,954 --> 00:22:04,834
Speaker 3: sort of automny colors than we've seen before. So what

475
00:22:04,874 --> 00:22:07,714
Speaker 3: they've done between last series in this one is built

476
00:22:07,754 --> 00:22:11,274
Speaker 3: a new backlot at the Shepardon Studios for whole new

477
00:22:11,394 --> 00:22:14,074
Speaker 3: street scenes of Bridgeton, so we're going to see more

478
00:22:14,154 --> 00:22:16,793
Speaker 3: of London and more of the countryside. They're still going

479
00:22:16,834 --> 00:22:18,674
Speaker 3: to be doing the same places that we love, like

480
00:22:18,714 --> 00:22:21,554
Speaker 3: Bridgeton House, which by the way, is a real house

481
00:22:21,714 --> 00:22:24,194
Speaker 3: but doesn't have the purple wisteria in real life.

482
00:22:24,354 --> 00:22:28,034
Speaker 2: What a shame that is plant that immediately Yes, that's

483
00:22:28,074 --> 00:22:30,714
Speaker 2: so interesting that that's real because it looks depending on

484
00:22:30,754 --> 00:22:33,353
Speaker 2: the shots, its looks three D to me. Yeah, it

485
00:22:33,394 --> 00:22:34,474
Speaker 2: looks like visual effects.

486
00:22:34,554 --> 00:22:37,754
Speaker 1: Yeah it actually does. Yeah, like almost like a drawing.

487
00:22:37,994 --> 00:22:39,154
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like hmmm.

488
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Speaker 3: So that's very So a huge part of this season

489
00:22:41,834 --> 00:22:44,154
Speaker 3: is going to be set in a place called my Cottage,

490
00:22:44,194 --> 00:22:46,273
Speaker 3: which is a stupid name, but they will explain that

491
00:22:46,354 --> 00:22:50,154
Speaker 3: is Benedict's country cottage and by cottage I mean giant

492
00:22:50,354 --> 00:22:54,194
Speaker 3: mansions of course with stuff, So that actually becomes a

493
00:22:54,194 --> 00:22:57,513
Speaker 3: whole nother character I suppose of this season. We do

494
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Speaker 3: know what was frickin' cold when they were filming, and

495
00:23:00,634 --> 00:23:02,914
Speaker 3: Luke Thompson has spoken about the fact that under the

496
00:23:03,034 --> 00:23:06,394
Speaker 3: very sexy clothes they are all wearing warming patches all

497
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Speaker 3: over their stomach.

498
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Speaker 4: Oh to be one of those warming patches.

499
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Speaker 2: I will say, those warming patches. I'm a cold person.

500
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Speaker 2: And I was working on a show called The PM's Daughter.

501
00:23:14,474 --> 00:23:16,114
Speaker 2: It's an Australian show and it was in one of

502
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Speaker 2: those really cold old mansions in Burwood, freezing middle of

503
00:23:20,234 --> 00:23:22,954
Speaker 2: winter in Covid. They were shooting sum up in winter

504
00:23:23,194 --> 00:23:25,434
Speaker 2: which is what they commonly do. And what it is

505
00:23:25,434 --> 00:23:27,914
Speaker 2: is these warming patches that they stick on to where

506
00:23:27,954 --> 00:23:30,674
Speaker 2: heat escapes on your back and they put them on

507
00:23:30,754 --> 00:23:33,593
Speaker 2: it. It just is like a heat pack that surges like warmth,

508
00:23:33,674 --> 00:23:35,914
Speaker 2: and they're incredible it because I'm cold. I was like,

509
00:23:35,954 --> 00:23:37,754
Speaker 2: can you get things like a chemist? Because I want

510
00:23:37,754 --> 00:23:39,314
Speaker 2: these like every day of my life.

511
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Speaker 3: Sorry, continue, So now we'll be watching it knowing that

512
00:23:42,634 --> 00:23:45,874
Speaker 3: Luke and Erin are actually nice and snug under their outfits.

513
00:23:46,434 --> 00:23:51,313
Speaker 3: So the costumes for Bridgeton are absolutely incredible, as you know.

514
00:23:51,754 --> 00:23:55,354
Speaker 3: So the Bridgington timeline is around eighteen twelve to eighteen fifteen.

515
00:23:55,634 --> 00:23:58,194
Speaker 3: This is the same time as Pride and Prejudice when

516
00:23:58,194 --> 00:24:01,074
Speaker 3: we're watching the Pride and Predge movies and TV series.

517
00:24:01,514 --> 00:24:04,513
Speaker 3: They are country people. They're in bonnets. You see no

518
00:24:04,634 --> 00:24:07,434
Speaker 3: bonnets like that in Bridgeton, and they made a real

519
00:24:07,474 --> 00:24:09,914
Speaker 3: effort to not do this because the people of Bridgington

520
00:24:09,994 --> 00:24:13,434
Speaker 3: are the rich townies, not the country folk. And how

521
00:24:13,474 --> 00:24:16,874
Speaker 3: a woman dresses, she's basically like a walking billboard for

522
00:24:16,914 --> 00:24:20,234
Speaker 3: how much money she has. So even when they're just promenading,

523
00:24:20,354 --> 00:24:21,794
Speaker 3: which they do a hell of a lot of the time,

524
00:24:21,834 --> 00:24:24,474
Speaker 3: getting their steps up. You really are on display for

525
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Speaker 3: how much money your husband has.

526
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Speaker 4: Netflix were originally.

527
00:24:27,714 --> 00:24:30,194
Speaker 3: Blown away by how much Shondaland wanted to spend on

528
00:24:30,274 --> 00:24:34,194
Speaker 3: the costumes, and we're very keen to Vita, which Shonderland

529
00:24:34,234 --> 00:24:36,074
Speaker 3: came in and said, no, no, no, we'll be thrifty in

530
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Speaker 3: other ways. We need to spend this cash. So they

531
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Speaker 3: have a person in the costume team on Bridgeton who

532
00:24:42,394 --> 00:24:46,513
Speaker 3: only sources fabrics. Their whole job is traveling to different

533
00:24:46,514 --> 00:24:49,474
Speaker 3: coture houses all over the world to get fabrics. That's

534
00:24:49,474 --> 00:24:51,874
Speaker 3: actually really important because some of those dresses you see,

535
00:24:51,954 --> 00:24:55,594
Speaker 3: particularly like the Featherington dresses, are four different layers of

536
00:24:55,634 --> 00:24:58,914
Speaker 3: fabric to get the effect that we're seeing. They also

537
00:24:58,994 --> 00:25:02,114
Speaker 3: use three D printing in their costumes, so this year

538
00:25:02,154 --> 00:25:03,793
Speaker 3: we're still going to see the citrus colors on the

539
00:25:03,794 --> 00:25:07,354
Speaker 3: Featherington thank god, oranges, limes and lemons and stuff that

540
00:25:07,594 --> 00:25:09,994
Speaker 3: you'll also notice that when the Featherington family are in money,

541
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Speaker 3: there's more gold in with the citruses as well. Less

542
00:25:13,234 --> 00:25:17,074
Speaker 3: when they're in their povo times, the Bridgetons will still

543
00:25:17,114 --> 00:25:19,513
Speaker 3: be in that sort of tiffany.

544
00:25:19,314 --> 00:25:20,754
Speaker 2: Wedgewood blue color.

545
00:25:20,834 --> 00:25:24,194
Speaker 3: Blue is the main Bridgeton color they are old money,

546
00:25:24,274 --> 00:25:26,914
Speaker 3: they are not gaudy. They have absolutely nothing to prove

547
00:25:27,394 --> 00:25:31,634
Speaker 3: more what Luke Thompson calls glorious waistcoats on Benedict this year,

548
00:25:31,674 --> 00:25:33,914
Speaker 3: Thank god because they're one of my favorite parts. Do

549
00:25:33,954 --> 00:25:36,434
Speaker 3: you know the first season of Bridgeton they had seven

550
00:25:36,594 --> 00:25:39,114
Speaker 3: and a half thousand pieces of costume.

551
00:25:39,394 --> 00:25:41,314
Speaker 4: Oh so this is huge.

552
00:25:41,314 --> 00:25:43,714
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see because I feel like every

553
00:25:43,714 --> 00:25:45,674
Speaker 3: season of Bridgington they step up in.

554
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Speaker 2: Terms of costumes. Live what's the internet saying about the

555
00:25:48,634 --> 00:25:51,194
Speaker 2: costumes of Bridgeton, whether it's the previous seasons or what

556
00:25:51,234 --> 00:25:52,273
Speaker 2: we're looking ahead to.

557
00:25:52,714 --> 00:25:55,714
Speaker 1: The conversation about the showrunner to switch over is interesting

558
00:25:55,794 --> 00:25:58,554
Speaker 1: because a lot of people are actually angry about last

559
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Speaker 1: season and the costumes. They felt like it was too modernized,

560
00:26:01,634 --> 00:26:05,074
Speaker 1: the makeup and particularly the nails, And then with the

561
00:26:05,154 --> 00:26:09,034
Speaker 1: trailer that's come out this season, everyone's far happier. They've

562
00:26:09,074 --> 00:26:11,554
Speaker 1: seen that it's gone back to natural makeup, it's gone

563
00:26:11,634 --> 00:26:14,434
Speaker 1: back to natural ish nails and kind of pared it

564
00:26:14,474 --> 00:26:16,834
Speaker 1: back a little bit. So it was actually you've I

565
00:26:16,954 --> 00:26:20,273
Speaker 1: feel like you've explained exactly why it happened. So people

566
00:26:20,674 --> 00:26:23,434
Speaker 1: criticized that from last season, but are happy about it

567
00:26:23,474 --> 00:26:23,714
Speaker 1: for this.

568
00:26:23,674 --> 00:26:26,114
Speaker 2: Sea even noticing the nails, Well, it doesn't surprise me

569
00:26:26,234 --> 00:26:28,234
Speaker 2: when you tell me the details in terms of seven

570
00:26:28,274 --> 00:26:30,874
Speaker 2: and a half thousand costumes, like there is people of

571
00:26:30,954 --> 00:26:34,354
Speaker 2: really looking at every single element of this, which is

572
00:26:35,274 --> 00:26:38,074
Speaker 2: also what they do with the music. Is there any

573
00:26:38,154 --> 00:26:40,514
Speaker 2: teasers that we know what covers might we hear?

574
00:26:40,914 --> 00:26:43,834
Speaker 3: Jess Brown has said that her angle for the music

575
00:26:44,154 --> 00:26:47,634
Speaker 3: is classic rock with some modern bangers and do not

576
00:26:47,754 --> 00:26:52,434
Speaker 3: worry a really pinnacle tailor swift moment. So the producer

577
00:26:52,514 --> 00:26:54,914
Speaker 3: is Chris Bauers. He's done all of the show music.

578
00:26:55,234 --> 00:26:57,874
Speaker 3: He's created a slightly different sound this year, and the

579
00:26:57,994 --> 00:27:01,154
Speaker 3: reason is that season four is more about class politics.

580
00:27:01,154 --> 00:27:03,634
Speaker 3: It's more upstairs downstairs, a bit more down to abby.

581
00:27:03,874 --> 00:27:06,474
Speaker 3: We find out what's happening in the world of the Maids,

582
00:27:06,634 --> 00:27:08,514
Speaker 3: and they're going to reflect that through the music by

583
00:27:08,554 --> 00:27:11,273
Speaker 3: making it a bit more folksy, a little bit less regal.

584
00:27:11,634 --> 00:27:13,674
Speaker 3: Live You're gonna love this this season. That it's most

585
00:27:13,674 --> 00:27:17,714
Speaker 3: compared to is the music from Queen Charlotte because of

586
00:27:17,754 --> 00:27:19,553
Speaker 3: the fact that you're seeing people who might not be

587
00:27:19,874 --> 00:27:21,754
Speaker 3: so commonly in high society.

588
00:27:22,154 --> 00:27:24,474
Speaker 1: I have a fun little tibit so on TikTok. There's

589
00:27:24,474 --> 00:27:27,194
Speaker 1: already fan edits of course from the trailer, and what

590
00:27:27,394 --> 00:27:31,154
Speaker 1: happens is there's a whole ecosystem of assigning different songs

591
00:27:31,154 --> 00:27:34,114
Speaker 1: to different couples and saying this is their song. Now

592
00:27:34,194 --> 00:27:38,234
Speaker 1: the song that has been assigned to Benedict and Sophie

593
00:27:38,274 --> 00:27:42,954
Speaker 1: at the moment is enchanted by Taylor Swift perfect now yes,

594
00:27:43,074 --> 00:27:44,754
Speaker 1: and can I read you just a line from it's

595
00:27:44,794 --> 00:27:50,754
Speaker 1: singing it? No, No, your eyes whispered, have we met?

596
00:27:51,074 --> 00:27:51,874
Speaker 2: Cross the room?

597
00:27:51,954 --> 00:27:55,354
Speaker 1: Your silhouette starts to make its way to me. The

598
00:27:55,394 --> 00:28:00,114
Speaker 1: playful conversation starts. Counter all your quick remarks, like passing

599
00:28:00,194 --> 00:28:05,674
Speaker 1: notes in secrecy. It's literally them, It's literally like that.

600
00:28:05,674 --> 00:28:08,114
Speaker 1: That is their song. That is completely their song, and

601
00:28:08,594 --> 00:28:10,793
Speaker 1: it's got millions of views on TikTok already.

602
00:28:11,034 --> 00:28:12,754
Speaker 2: All right, we're going to have you tracking the music

603
00:28:12,994 --> 00:28:16,313
Speaker 2: quite extensively across these first four episodes that drop, and

604
00:28:16,514 --> 00:28:18,594
Speaker 2: we can do some deep dive into the lyrics to

605
00:28:18,634 --> 00:28:20,354
Speaker 2: go what have we been told about all of them?

606
00:28:20,634 --> 00:28:20,834
Speaker 5: Now?

607
00:28:20,874 --> 00:28:23,714
Speaker 2: Georgie, it has been two years. We have had a

608
00:28:23,714 --> 00:28:26,474
Speaker 2: writer strike in that time. Did that impact the timing?

609
00:28:26,514 --> 00:28:29,994
Speaker 2: Because in theory, it's a book we know they can

610
00:28:30,034 --> 00:28:32,634
Speaker 2: start production at the end of post production. Why were

611
00:28:32,674 --> 00:28:34,034
Speaker 2: we waiting two years.

612
00:28:33,954 --> 00:28:37,074
Speaker 3: Grace, That is such a good question and one that

613
00:28:37,554 --> 00:28:40,714
Speaker 3: really grinds my gears for one of a better expression.

614
00:28:40,754 --> 00:28:42,914
Speaker 3: So it's a two year schedule for Bridgeton. Let me

615
00:28:42,914 --> 00:28:46,394
Speaker 3: explain how this works. It is a really complex production.

616
00:28:46,954 --> 00:28:49,234
Speaker 3: First you've got the extensive writing, Then you've got the

617
00:28:49,274 --> 00:28:53,554
Speaker 3: elaborate costumes, the set designs after its cast. Then all

618
00:28:53,594 --> 00:28:56,914
Speaker 3: the casts do different training. For example, the character Francesca

619
00:28:57,034 --> 00:29:00,434
Speaker 3: learns the piano, the character of Kate learns advanced horse writing.

620
00:29:00,754 --> 00:29:03,514
Speaker 3: Then there's the filming. Filming goes for eight months, then

621
00:29:03,554 --> 00:29:06,914
Speaker 3: there's a really complex post production. Then there's global dubbing

622
00:29:07,114 --> 00:29:09,074
Speaker 3: and needs to come out on Netflix at the same

623
00:29:09,114 --> 00:29:12,634
Speaker 3: time in all languages. That's actually a huge undertaking of

624
00:29:12,714 --> 00:29:16,474
Speaker 3: a task. Netflix also has a strategic release schedule for

625
00:29:16,514 --> 00:29:20,394
Speaker 3: these big shows to maximum subscriber engagement. They do this

626
00:29:20,474 --> 00:29:22,514
Speaker 3: with a lot of the big ones as well, like

627
00:29:22,914 --> 00:29:26,074
Speaker 3: Stranger Things, The Witcher, Wednesday. They all seem to be

628
00:29:26,154 --> 00:29:27,914
Speaker 3: on a close to two year schedule.

629
00:29:28,314 --> 00:29:30,834
Speaker 4: So what they're doing here is they're really stretching out

630
00:29:30,834 --> 00:29:33,274
Speaker 4: their established hits to keep people hooked for.

631
00:29:33,394 --> 00:29:36,554
Speaker 3: Longer, So Jess Brownhill says this two years wait is

632
00:29:36,674 --> 00:29:40,394
Speaker 3: necessary because of the very high production value of a

633
00:29:40,394 --> 00:29:43,154
Speaker 3: show like this. They say it takes one week, for example,

634
00:29:43,314 --> 00:29:46,394
Speaker 3: to film a ball scene, one week of standing round

635
00:29:46,914 --> 00:29:50,794
Speaker 3: the carriage scene. Remember the carriage scene in season three

636
00:29:50,994 --> 00:29:56,634
Speaker 3: that took three days to complete. That's between directing, intimacy, coordinator, blocking, rehearsing,

637
00:29:56,954 --> 00:29:58,034
Speaker 3: and take up to take.

638
00:29:57,954 --> 00:30:00,754
Speaker 4: To get all the angles right. Lucky Niicoler.

639
00:30:01,154 --> 00:30:03,394
Speaker 3: They also do some really clever work, Like I was

640
00:30:03,434 --> 00:30:06,634
Speaker 3: saying that Shondaland can be thrifty. So for example, you

641
00:30:06,634 --> 00:30:09,634
Speaker 3: know the scene of the presentation to the Queen, Daphanie's

642
00:30:09,634 --> 00:30:11,714
Speaker 3: done it, Aloys has done at Francesca's done It, where

643
00:30:11,714 --> 00:30:14,274
Speaker 3: they walk forward Curtsey and a presenter to the Queen.

644
00:30:14,714 --> 00:30:18,554
Speaker 3: They're actually shot twice because the same extras are used

645
00:30:18,554 --> 00:30:21,074
Speaker 3: on both sides of the aisle, so they shoot one side,

646
00:30:21,234 --> 00:30:24,274
Speaker 3: shimmy everyone over to the other and shoot the other side.

647
00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:25,594
Speaker 4: And that's just a really.

648
00:30:25,434 --> 00:30:29,394
Speaker 3: Clever way of saving money. Obviously, the pandemic was continuing

649
00:30:29,434 --> 00:30:31,994
Speaker 3: between season one and two, so a two year gap

650
00:30:32,074 --> 00:30:34,714
Speaker 3: made perfect sense. Then there was the writers and Actors

651
00:30:34,714 --> 00:30:37,994
Speaker 3: strike between two and three, plus the filming of Queen Charlotte,

652
00:30:37,994 --> 00:30:40,354
Speaker 3: which took them away from it. I don't like this

653
00:30:40,474 --> 00:30:43,954
Speaker 3: two year gap because this whole two year thing, it

654
00:30:43,994 --> 00:30:47,514
Speaker 3: can overlap, right, Why can't they start pre production for

655
00:30:47,594 --> 00:30:50,754
Speaker 3: another series using different staff who are doing the pre

656
00:30:50,794 --> 00:30:54,114
Speaker 3: production thing, like the casting directors versus the editing people

657
00:30:54,114 --> 00:30:56,994
Speaker 3: who are working on the season before. Why can't they

658
00:30:57,034 --> 00:30:59,074
Speaker 3: overlap more and give us more of what we want?

659
00:30:59,074 --> 00:31:01,234
Speaker 3: Because also, these actors are going to age out of

660
00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:02,354
Speaker 3: these roles if we're not careful.

661
00:31:02,434 --> 00:31:04,514
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably listening to this jology going we want

662
00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:05,034
Speaker 2: to break.

663
00:31:05,354 --> 00:31:07,834
Speaker 4: We'll hire more people, we need more Bridgitton.

664
00:31:08,194 --> 00:31:10,514
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a conversation as well going online at the

665
00:31:10,554 --> 00:31:12,954
Speaker 1: moment about this, well, not particularly how long it takes

666
00:31:12,994 --> 00:31:15,034
Speaker 1: to film, but how they release it and how it's

667
00:31:15,074 --> 00:31:18,154
Speaker 1: done in two chunks. People aren't happy with it. They

668
00:31:18,154 --> 00:31:21,234
Speaker 1: don't like it. They wish, actually, which I thought was

669
00:31:21,274 --> 00:31:23,554
Speaker 1: quite interesting. They wish that it was just a weekly

670
00:31:23,594 --> 00:31:26,634
Speaker 1: release rather than having a big chunk and then another

671
00:31:26,674 --> 00:31:29,114
Speaker 1: big chunk, which Netflix does a lot. They did it

672
00:31:29,114 --> 00:31:33,114
Speaker 1: with Stranger Things just earlier this year. But I think

673
00:31:33,154 --> 00:31:35,394
Speaker 1: I do like it. Do you guys like it? How

674
00:31:35,434 --> 00:31:36,954
Speaker 1: it comes out in blocks.

675
00:31:37,394 --> 00:31:40,194
Speaker 2: I would prefer like two episodes at a time, because

676
00:31:40,194 --> 00:31:42,914
Speaker 2: I like, I feel like my brain has been damaged

677
00:31:42,954 --> 00:31:47,154
Speaker 2: by streaming, but I need to watch at least two

678
00:31:47,194 --> 00:31:48,754
Speaker 2: if I'm going to sit down for an episode. Although

679
00:31:48,794 --> 00:31:51,274
Speaker 2: I will say I enjoyed the Monday night White Lotus

680
00:31:51,394 --> 00:31:54,594
Speaker 2: ritual of just one episode, but when you've got everything,

681
00:31:54,634 --> 00:31:56,274
Speaker 2: I do feel like it kind of ruins it because

682
00:31:56,314 --> 00:31:58,554
Speaker 2: once you get to like episode five, if you've binged

683
00:31:58,554 --> 00:32:01,914
Speaker 2: it because you have no self control, it does become

684
00:32:01,954 --> 00:32:03,874
Speaker 2: white noise, and that's where you're picking up your phone

685
00:32:03,874 --> 00:32:06,994
Speaker 2: and you're not really paying attention. So I'm like, maybe

686
00:32:07,314 --> 00:32:10,354
Speaker 2: like once a week or two episodes at a time. Georgie,

687
00:32:10,514 --> 00:32:13,034
Speaker 2: I'm really into this part one and part two that

688
00:32:13,074 --> 00:32:14,954
Speaker 2: they do if allows me and the rest of the

689
00:32:14,954 --> 00:32:18,034
Speaker 2: online community or my pals to really delve into the

690
00:32:18,034 --> 00:32:21,434
Speaker 2: first four episodes, and it allows a massive cliffhanger halfway

691
00:32:21,434 --> 00:32:22,154
Speaker 2: through the series.

692
00:32:22,354 --> 00:32:25,554
Speaker 3: We have a whole month to wait. So season four,

693
00:32:25,634 --> 00:32:28,474
Speaker 3: Episode four is called an Offer from a Gentleman, which

694
00:32:28,514 --> 00:32:30,154
Speaker 3: is the name of the novel that it's based on.

695
00:32:30,474 --> 00:32:33,034
Speaker 3: And let's just say there is an offer from Benedict

696
00:32:33,234 --> 00:32:35,634
Speaker 3: to Sophie. They're probably going to need a month to

697
00:32:35,674 --> 00:32:35,994
Speaker 3: get over.

698
00:32:36,194 --> 00:32:38,274
Speaker 2: Let's leave it there, and then after this break we're

699
00:32:38,274 --> 00:32:41,154
Speaker 2: going to go into some fan theories and what we

700
00:32:41,234 --> 00:32:44,954
Speaker 2: know about the press to us so far. All right,

701
00:32:45,034 --> 00:32:47,554
Speaker 2: let's get into this new season. We have scoured the

702
00:32:47,554 --> 00:32:49,594
Speaker 2: internet to tell you as much as we can about

703
00:32:49,594 --> 00:32:51,914
Speaker 2: what's coming up. But first things first, what's it about?

704
00:32:52,074 --> 00:32:54,314
Speaker 2: What do we know about it? What's the storyline?

705
00:32:54,514 --> 00:32:57,834
Speaker 3: So this is the Cinderella story. It's not based on

706
00:32:57,874 --> 00:33:01,434
Speaker 3: the Cinderella story. It is the Cinderella story.

707
00:33:01,394 --> 00:33:01,914
Speaker 4: In this case.

708
00:33:01,954 --> 00:33:04,674
Speaker 3: It all happens at a masqu grade ball. Benedict meets

709
00:33:04,714 --> 00:33:07,874
Speaker 3: a lady in silver, falls completely in love with her.

710
00:33:08,034 --> 00:33:11,394
Speaker 3: She has to flee at midnight for some non shocking reason,

711
00:33:11,634 --> 00:33:13,554
Speaker 3: and she leaves behind an item of clothing. It's not

712
00:33:13,594 --> 00:33:15,394
Speaker 3: a shoe this time. We know from the trailer it's

713
00:33:15,394 --> 00:33:15,794
Speaker 3: a glove.

714
00:33:16,514 --> 00:33:19,074
Speaker 2: And on the trailer, what are the other clues that

715
00:33:19,114 --> 00:33:20,234
Speaker 2: we have in the trailer live.

716
00:33:20,674 --> 00:33:23,074
Speaker 1: Well, we know that he gets into his painting a

717
00:33:23,114 --> 00:33:25,634
Speaker 1: little bit. He paints her because he can't stop thinking

718
00:33:25,634 --> 00:33:27,754
Speaker 1: about her, which is so romantic. I can't even get

719
00:33:27,754 --> 00:33:30,954
Speaker 1: a text back, and then he's painting her. I'd like

720
00:33:30,954 --> 00:33:34,114
Speaker 1: someone to paint me please. And then we also know

721
00:33:34,514 --> 00:33:38,514
Speaker 1: that they do meet again, so Sophie knows it's him,

722
00:33:38,554 --> 00:33:42,994
Speaker 1: but Benedict he might not know consciously, but I think

723
00:33:43,034 --> 00:33:46,274
Speaker 1: subconsciously he can feel that there's something different about this

724
00:33:46,314 --> 00:33:47,994
Speaker 1: girl that he's met.

725
00:33:48,114 --> 00:33:49,434
Speaker 3: I don't know if the TV series is going to

726
00:33:49,434 --> 00:33:52,234
Speaker 3: follow this exactly, but in the book, Sophie is a maid.

727
00:33:53,154 --> 00:33:57,914
Speaker 3: She re meets Benedict and begins working for the family.

728
00:33:58,594 --> 00:34:02,434
Speaker 3: He falls for maid Sophie, but his heart is already

729
00:34:02,474 --> 00:34:03,994
Speaker 3: taken with the lady in Silver.

730
00:34:04,714 --> 00:34:06,594
Speaker 4: Hmm, what a conundrum.

731
00:34:06,714 --> 00:34:08,794
Speaker 1: Okay, so these are the bits that are going viral

732
00:34:08,873 --> 00:34:10,993
Speaker 1: in the trailer at the moment, and I'm sure you

733
00:34:11,034 --> 00:34:13,794
Speaker 1: guys could guess it is him walking out of the water.

734
00:34:14,114 --> 00:34:16,953
Speaker 4: Oh we know.

735
00:34:19,794 --> 00:34:22,234
Speaker 1: It's so insane, Like I was like, what when I

736
00:34:22,274 --> 00:34:26,154
Speaker 1: saw that the painting which I mentioned before. Now, something

737
00:34:26,194 --> 00:34:30,714
Speaker 1: that's not about Benedict and Sophie is Violet. And Violet

738
00:34:30,954 --> 00:34:34,154
Speaker 1: is having a little bit what fans are thinking, her

739
00:34:34,194 --> 00:34:37,194
Speaker 1: own little love story going on, and she gets the

740
00:34:37,714 --> 00:34:43,154
Speaker 1: she's finally having her garden watered. Okay, that phrase, I

741
00:34:43,194 --> 00:34:43,594
Speaker 1: hate it.

742
00:34:44,634 --> 00:34:47,473
Speaker 2: I dislike it, but I'm also good for her, yes,

743
00:34:47,554 --> 00:34:50,234
Speaker 2: because it's a long time coming. You've got little bits

744
00:34:50,274 --> 00:34:53,513
Speaker 2: like we've learnt so much about their love story through

745
00:34:53,554 --> 00:34:57,473
Speaker 2: season two, and then she's thinking about dipping her toe

746
00:34:57,474 --> 00:34:59,314
Speaker 2: back in the water in season three, So if we're

747
00:34:59,354 --> 00:35:03,593
Speaker 2: going fully in, I'm happy for her. But she's never

748
00:35:03,674 --> 00:35:08,754
Speaker 2: been projected as a sexual being so lovely, so I

749
00:35:08,834 --> 00:35:11,194
Speaker 2: really wonder how they're going to make that transition so shy.

750
00:35:11,354 --> 00:35:13,714
Speaker 1: I know, I'm really excited for that part two. And

751
00:35:13,754 --> 00:35:16,634
Speaker 1: then one comment that I really loved and that I

752
00:35:16,674 --> 00:35:19,914
Speaker 1: think really sums up everything is the man who looked

753
00:35:19,994 --> 00:35:23,434
Speaker 1: everywhere and nowhere for love found it when he returned home.

754
00:35:23,914 --> 00:35:26,274
Speaker 1: That is a comment on a TikTok that got forty

755
00:35:26,354 --> 00:35:29,154
Speaker 1: thousand likes, and you can see why because it's just

756
00:35:29,194 --> 00:35:31,074
Speaker 1: such a nice little sum up of what's going to

757
00:35:31,154 --> 00:35:31,674
Speaker 1: happen here.

758
00:35:32,234 --> 00:35:34,674
Speaker 3: So the quote that Benedict says to Eloise as she's

759
00:35:34,754 --> 00:35:37,074
Speaker 3: leaving for Scotland at the end of series three is

760
00:35:37,394 --> 00:35:39,393
Speaker 3: it feels right now that the next thing I might

761
00:35:39,474 --> 00:35:41,034
Speaker 3: learn might change me completely.

762
00:35:41,154 --> 00:35:42,674
Speaker 4: And that's it. It's meeting Sophie.

763
00:35:42,714 --> 00:35:45,994
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what can we expect from the cast

764
00:35:46,034 --> 00:35:49,234
Speaker 2: and the characters? Who is back this season? Because it

765
00:35:49,314 --> 00:35:51,194
Speaker 2: was a big deal that Hastings never came back. Are

766
00:35:51,234 --> 00:35:54,634
Speaker 2: there any characters that suddenly don't make an appearance, Well,

767
00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:57,354
Speaker 2: let me quickly say, I have not recovered from Regga

768
00:35:57,434 --> 00:36:00,514
Speaker 2: Jeon not returning. Shonda is fine with it because she

769
00:36:00,634 --> 00:36:02,154
Speaker 2: thinks his story wrapped up.

770
00:36:02,274 --> 00:36:03,234
Speaker 4: He got his happy.

771
00:36:03,074 --> 00:36:05,994
Speaker 2: Ending, David. Shonda's fine with Sandra Oh leaving Gray. She

772
00:36:06,034 --> 00:36:08,114
Speaker 2: clearly doesn't get yet They're going to.

773
00:36:08,114 --> 00:36:10,114
Speaker 1: Have to do something about it because online as well,

774
00:36:10,234 --> 00:36:13,754
Speaker 1: that's the most popular video about season four, is about

775
00:36:13,794 --> 00:36:16,114
Speaker 1: the fact that Daphne's not there and hasn't been and

776
00:36:16,154 --> 00:36:18,474
Speaker 1: how there's a hole in everyone's hearts. They're going to

777
00:36:18,714 --> 00:36:23,114
Speaker 1: have to do something next season because otherwise everyone's just

778
00:36:23,154 --> 00:36:24,914
Speaker 1: gonna be so upset.

779
00:36:25,234 --> 00:36:27,434
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, let me tell the good news. So firstly,

780
00:36:27,634 --> 00:36:30,314
Speaker 3: Luke Newton and Nikola Cochlan a back, thank God. With

781
00:36:30,474 --> 00:36:33,873
Speaker 3: their very cute baby. We know that they're back, and

782
00:36:33,914 --> 00:36:35,994
Speaker 3: they are also thrilled to be back. They said, the

783
00:36:35,994 --> 00:36:38,114
Speaker 3: pressures being taken off quite a bit this season. They

784
00:36:38,194 --> 00:36:40,314
Speaker 3: just get to go to those supporting roles where they

785
00:36:40,394 --> 00:36:42,714
Speaker 3: still have a story arc, but they don't need to

786
00:36:42,754 --> 00:36:46,234
Speaker 3: worry about being leading man and leading lady. Now, Simone

787
00:36:46,274 --> 00:36:49,634
Speaker 3: Ashley and Johnny Bailey are back, and this is big

788
00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:54,034
Speaker 3: right because they are the standout stars of Bridgeton. Jonathan

789
00:36:54,074 --> 00:36:56,954
Speaker 3: Bailey not only sexiest man alive. Last year, he was

790
00:36:56,954 --> 00:37:00,034
Speaker 3: the highest grossing actor of twenty twenty five. That's a

791
00:37:00,154 --> 00:37:03,234
Speaker 3: historical first for an openly gay male actor. This is

792
00:37:03,274 --> 00:37:06,474
Speaker 3: driven by his roles in Drastic World, Rebirth and Wicked

793
00:37:06,554 --> 00:37:09,234
Speaker 3: for Good and Simone has been really busy. First she

794
00:37:09,274 --> 00:37:11,033
Speaker 3: was in F one, cut out of it, but still

795
00:37:11,074 --> 00:37:12,593
Speaker 3: she was in it and she's been killing.

796
00:37:12,754 --> 00:37:13,594
Speaker 1: She was cut out of it.

797
00:37:13,674 --> 00:37:17,834
Speaker 2: She was someone cut down significantly. Oh I know, they

798
00:37:17,834 --> 00:37:19,754
Speaker 2: just said it was the story and they're edited like

799
00:37:19,914 --> 00:37:21,873
Speaker 2: they had to for timing. They had to edit out

800
00:37:21,874 --> 00:37:22,514
Speaker 2: her story arc.

801
00:37:22,874 --> 00:37:24,674
Speaker 3: That's why we're doing a Bridgeton podcast and not in

802
00:37:24,794 --> 00:37:27,634
Speaker 3: F one podcast because they make bad decisions. She's now

803
00:37:27,674 --> 00:37:30,154
Speaker 3: been filming the Devil Wears Prata follow up in New

804
00:37:30,234 --> 00:37:33,354
Speaker 3: York City. So it's actually massive though that they're coming

805
00:37:33,394 --> 00:37:35,634
Speaker 3: back because you know what they don't need to know,

806
00:37:36,194 --> 00:37:38,554
Speaker 3: and good on them for coming back to a show

807
00:37:38,714 --> 00:37:41,314
Speaker 3: that gave them their big start that they love where

808
00:37:41,354 --> 00:37:43,874
Speaker 3: they feel like they have this family on set.

809
00:37:44,114 --> 00:37:47,434
Speaker 4: Jonathan Bailey said that he will always return to support

810
00:37:47,554 --> 00:37:48,234
Speaker 4: his siblings.

811
00:37:48,314 --> 00:37:50,714
Speaker 1: Is he just the best guy world's I feel like

812
00:37:50,754 --> 00:37:52,834
Speaker 1: he's a bit of a side quest guy too, Like

813
00:37:52,914 --> 00:37:55,274
Speaker 1: he just showed up at the Australian TikTok Awards and

814
00:37:55,434 --> 00:37:58,554
Speaker 1: he did it surprised everyone. I was there and I

815
00:37:58,634 --> 00:38:01,074
Speaker 1: actually couldn't believe my eyes. Like he was just standing

816
00:38:01,074 --> 00:38:02,234
Speaker 1: on the stage and I was looking up and I

817
00:38:02,314 --> 00:38:05,074
Speaker 1: was like, what are you doing here? I couldn't believe it.

818
00:38:05,074 --> 00:38:07,514
Speaker 2: He also surprised his sister who was at the movies

819
00:38:07,594 --> 00:38:10,594
Speaker 2: watching Wicked, and he just rocked up and likes surprise

820
00:38:10,714 --> 00:38:12,354
Speaker 2: to cinema. So yeah, side quest guy.

821
00:38:12,394 --> 00:38:13,674
Speaker 1: Yeah, he likes a side quest.

822
00:38:13,834 --> 00:38:16,754
Speaker 3: He is the anti reggaejeon and we love him for that.

823
00:38:17,034 --> 00:38:18,834
Speaker 3: He remembers where he came from and I hope that

824
00:38:18,874 --> 00:38:21,314
Speaker 3: sounds pointed because it is meant to be. Now, I've

825
00:38:21,314 --> 00:38:23,873
Speaker 3: heard a rumor that they don't appear much in Part one.

826
00:38:24,354 --> 00:38:26,154
Speaker 3: The fans are going to get very angry for that

827
00:38:26,274 --> 00:38:29,114
Speaker 3: month between, but know that they appear in Part two.

828
00:38:29,594 --> 00:38:30,993
Speaker 4: One of the theories about what.

829
00:38:31,074 --> 00:38:33,474
Speaker 3: Is going to happen is we know the character of

830
00:38:33,514 --> 00:38:36,594
Speaker 3: Gregory is going to get a crush this season because

831
00:38:36,634 --> 00:38:38,433
Speaker 3: the actor who plays him, has just on his very

832
00:38:38,434 --> 00:38:40,914
Speaker 3: first podcast appearance and he talks about getting a crush.

833
00:38:41,194 --> 00:38:42,993
Speaker 3: The question is, who's he getting a crush on. He's

834
00:38:42,994 --> 00:38:45,154
Speaker 3: not out in society, it's not gonna be one of

835
00:38:45,154 --> 00:38:45,554
Speaker 3: his sisters.

836
00:38:45,554 --> 00:38:46,234
Speaker 4: Who does he meet.

837
00:38:46,674 --> 00:38:49,154
Speaker 3: The rumor is that he has a crush on Kate,

838
00:38:49,514 --> 00:38:51,834
Speaker 3: his sister in law, which is just too cute. And

839
00:38:51,874 --> 00:38:53,914
Speaker 3: I really hope that that's true and she would also

840
00:38:53,994 --> 00:38:57,074
Speaker 3: be so kind to him as well, so you know,

841
00:38:57,394 --> 00:38:58,474
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that's happening.

842
00:38:58,714 --> 00:38:58,873
Speaker 4: Now.

843
00:38:58,914 --> 00:39:02,074
Speaker 3: You mentioned Phoebe Dinnever, who plays Daphanie. She was asked

844
00:39:02,114 --> 00:39:04,154
Speaker 3: in an interview the other day about whether or not

845
00:39:04,234 --> 00:39:07,034
Speaker 3: she appears in season four. She has said that she

846
00:39:07,314 --> 00:39:09,554
Speaker 3: is waiting for the call. She said, I haven't received

847
00:39:09,554 --> 00:39:11,873
Speaker 3: a call yet. I believe they're filming, but she is

848
00:39:11,994 --> 00:39:14,994
Speaker 3: open to it. She's not ruling out returning to future series.

849
00:39:15,154 --> 00:39:17,274
Speaker 3: I feel that means she's not in this one. Let's

850
00:39:17,274 --> 00:39:18,874
Speaker 3: hope she's in an upcoming one.

851
00:39:19,154 --> 00:39:19,314
Speaker 4: Now.

852
00:39:19,314 --> 00:39:21,553
Speaker 3: There's some changes to the cast this season as well.

853
00:39:21,594 --> 00:39:24,953
Speaker 3: The characters of Alice Mondridge and Brimsley are upgraded from

854
00:39:24,994 --> 00:39:26,834
Speaker 3: supporting characters to main cast.

855
00:39:27,754 --> 00:39:28,754
Speaker 4: This is a fan theory.

856
00:39:28,754 --> 00:39:30,314
Speaker 3: I want to get your thoughts on it, because you

857
00:39:30,314 --> 00:39:37,154
Speaker 3: are both Queen Charlotte devotees. Is Alice Mondridge the love

858
00:39:37,314 --> 00:39:42,034
Speaker 3: child of Lady Danbury and Violet Bridgeton's dad, Lord Leger.

859
00:39:42,394 --> 00:39:45,913
Speaker 3: We know they had an affair, it's spoken about in

860
00:39:45,954 --> 00:39:49,074
Speaker 3: Bridgeton series three and Queen Charlotte.

861
00:39:49,834 --> 00:39:52,234
Speaker 4: Is she the love child who was raised by Cora

862
00:39:52,354 --> 00:39:53,034
Speaker 4: the maid o?

863
00:39:55,194 --> 00:39:56,194
Speaker 2: I never thought about?

864
00:39:56,874 --> 00:39:57,634
Speaker 1: Did you find that?

865
00:39:58,234 --> 00:39:59,474
Speaker 4: Just here blowing your minds?

866
00:39:59,954 --> 00:40:04,314
Speaker 3: I love that because why is Alice Mondridge a major character?

867
00:40:04,754 --> 00:40:05,114
Speaker 2: Yes?

868
00:40:05,474 --> 00:40:07,354
Speaker 3: We know she's in society and when they keep yeah,

869
00:40:07,354 --> 00:40:10,714
Speaker 3: they keep bringing them, yeah, constantly all the time. Lady

870
00:40:10,794 --> 00:40:14,594
Speaker 3: Danbury's always supporting her. Last season we saw her up

871
00:40:14,634 --> 00:40:16,154
Speaker 3: on the plinth with the Queen.

872
00:40:16,434 --> 00:40:18,354
Speaker 4: It is downing next to the Queen and Lady Danbury.

873
00:40:18,474 --> 00:40:18,714
Speaker 3: Yeah.

874
00:40:18,754 --> 00:40:20,913
Speaker 1: It is a conversation that's happening online too, where people

875
00:40:20,954 --> 00:40:22,794
Speaker 1: are like they get way too much at airtime. Why

876
00:40:22,834 --> 00:40:25,714
Speaker 1: is this happening? They're not necessarily adding much to anything.

877
00:40:26,634 --> 00:40:26,834
Speaker 2: Yeah.

878
00:40:26,914 --> 00:40:29,913
Speaker 3: People were very annoyed about Willmondridge will he keep the

879
00:40:29,914 --> 00:40:32,434
Speaker 3: pub or won't he? Last season being a bit of

880
00:40:32,434 --> 00:40:34,554
Speaker 3: a waste of screen time. One thing that I have

881
00:40:34,634 --> 00:40:37,234
Speaker 3: heard about this season of Bridgington there is not a

882
00:40:37,274 --> 00:40:38,234
Speaker 3: wasted scene.

883
00:40:38,394 --> 00:40:40,073
Speaker 4: There is not a wasted storyline.

884
00:40:40,394 --> 00:40:42,873
Speaker 3: Interesting, so it's not one of those what they call

885
00:40:42,954 --> 00:40:45,234
Speaker 3: second screen shows. You were talking about that before Grace,

886
00:40:45,474 --> 00:40:48,393
Speaker 3: the ones where they will actually say this is my

887
00:40:48,554 --> 00:40:51,473
Speaker 3: sister Julie, Hello, sister Julie, because they know we're all

888
00:40:51,474 --> 00:40:54,794
Speaker 3: on our phone. Everything is important and Bridgington is filled

889
00:40:54,834 --> 00:40:56,873
Speaker 3: with Easter eggs, so it's actually one to put your

890
00:40:56,874 --> 00:40:57,714
Speaker 3: phone aside.

891
00:40:57,874 --> 00:41:00,794
Speaker 1: It's essential to put you you'll miss too much.

892
00:41:01,274 --> 00:41:03,554
Speaker 3: We also know that Lady Danbury is going to have

893
00:41:03,594 --> 00:41:05,314
Speaker 3: a significant storyline in this series.

894
00:41:05,354 --> 00:41:06,234
Speaker 4: We don't know what it is.

895
00:41:06,394 --> 00:41:08,674
Speaker 3: There was nothing in book that's going to give that away,

896
00:41:08,914 --> 00:41:11,594
Speaker 3: but she had her own teaser clip, so those amazing,

897
00:41:11,674 --> 00:41:14,394
Speaker 3: beautiful ones that are coming out from the Shondaland socials.

898
00:41:14,914 --> 00:41:17,274
Speaker 3: So because she's had that, we know that there's going

899
00:41:17,314 --> 00:41:19,674
Speaker 3: to be a major storyline about her. We also know

900
00:41:19,754 --> 00:41:22,714
Speaker 3: that Benedict is going to speak French in series four,

901
00:41:23,234 --> 00:41:27,674
Speaker 3: but badly he speaks to fluent Sophie. Now let's talk

902
00:41:27,714 --> 00:41:30,354
Speaker 3: about why this is interesting. Luke Thompson was born in

903
00:41:30,394 --> 00:41:33,514
Speaker 3: the UK. He moved to France when he was two

904
00:41:34,034 --> 00:41:37,154
Speaker 3: and he is fluent in French. He was more comfortable

905
00:41:37,194 --> 00:41:39,433
Speaker 3: speaking French until he moved back to the UK when

906
00:41:39,434 --> 00:41:41,834
Speaker 3: he was twenty, so we lived there eighteen years. He

907
00:41:41,914 --> 00:41:43,913
Speaker 3: went to a French primary school. He went to a

908
00:41:43,914 --> 00:41:46,834
Speaker 3: French high school that had an anglophone section, so he

909
00:41:46,914 --> 00:41:49,433
Speaker 3: spoke English when he was in those classes. But he

910
00:41:49,514 --> 00:41:53,354
Speaker 3: spoke French everywhere growing up, except at home to his parents.

911
00:41:53,354 --> 00:41:55,513
Speaker 3: They made him still speak English, so he said, when

912
00:41:55,514 --> 00:41:57,794
Speaker 3: he moved back to the UK when he was twenty

913
00:41:57,834 --> 00:42:01,474
Speaker 3: to go to university, yes he could speak English fluently,

914
00:42:01,514 --> 00:42:04,913
Speaker 3: but he wasn't comfortable in it. He didn't live in

915
00:42:04,954 --> 00:42:07,874
Speaker 3: English whereas now, he said, that's how he feels about French.

916
00:42:08,114 --> 00:42:10,554
Speaker 4: So know that when you're watching this episode.

917
00:42:10,154 --> 00:42:11,194
Speaker 2: Dummed himself down.

918
00:42:11,794 --> 00:42:12,794
Speaker 4: He has dumbed himself.

919
00:42:12,914 --> 00:42:16,393
Speaker 3: I love that because let me just play you how

920
00:42:16,474 --> 00:42:37,434
Speaker 3: Luke Thompson actually speaks my god nose.

921
00:42:34,114 --> 00:42:41,034
Speaker 2: The bridgeton. That's a Frenchman. That's a Frenchman. Have you

922
00:42:41,074 --> 00:42:41,834
Speaker 2: ever heard anything sex?

923
00:42:42,714 --> 00:42:44,714
Speaker 1: I didn't think it could get any better and it

924
00:42:44,834 --> 00:42:45,154
Speaker 1: just did.

925
00:42:45,794 --> 00:42:48,514
Speaker 3: Isn't he just divine? So he is speaking bad French.

926
00:42:48,514 --> 00:42:52,074
Speaker 3: We're going to hear that. There's also a really sexual

927
00:42:52,154 --> 00:42:55,114
Speaker 3: theme of water, so we know that he comes out

928
00:42:55,194 --> 00:42:59,674
Speaker 3: of the lake in the nut, I would assume, thank god.

929
00:43:00,434 --> 00:43:04,994
Speaker 3: There's also rumors in part two about a buff. I

930
00:43:04,994 --> 00:43:06,473
Speaker 3: don't know what will happen in the bar.

931
00:43:06,634 --> 00:43:09,794
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess, but I'm pretty excited.

932
00:43:10,034 --> 00:43:11,114
Speaker 2: There's a sex scene in the bath.

933
00:43:11,434 --> 00:43:13,034
Speaker 4: There's a sex scene in the bath. You heard it

934
00:43:13,074 --> 00:43:13,634
Speaker 4: here first.

935
00:43:13,874 --> 00:43:17,154
Speaker 1: If it's the hottest season yet, and I'm thinking about

936
00:43:17,194 --> 00:43:17,994
Speaker 1: season one.

937
00:43:18,274 --> 00:43:21,314
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking about a stairs the stair, yes, yes, yes.

938
00:43:21,234 --> 00:43:24,114
Speaker 1: Can we outside scene to the outside. They're gonna have

939
00:43:24,194 --> 00:43:26,914
Speaker 1: to ramp it up. It's going to have to be crazy.

940
00:43:26,954 --> 00:43:29,234
Speaker 1: It will have to be a bath top sex scene.

941
00:43:28,914 --> 00:43:31,994
Speaker 3: That will And know that there's no spas back in

942
00:43:32,034 --> 00:43:34,354
Speaker 3: eighteen thirteen, so we know that actually having sex in

943
00:43:34,394 --> 00:43:36,074
Speaker 3: a bath would be very hard and probably put you

944
00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:36,473
Speaker 3: back out.

945
00:43:36,554 --> 00:43:37,354
Speaker 2: Yeah.

946
00:43:37,394 --> 00:43:39,634
Speaker 3: So another thing is the titles of all the episodes

947
00:43:39,674 --> 00:43:42,354
Speaker 3: of season four has come out, and my good friends

948
00:43:42,354 --> 00:43:45,794
Speaker 3: in the fandom have been delving into what they think happens. So,

949
00:43:45,874 --> 00:43:49,354
Speaker 3: for example, episode six is called the Passing Winter. Is

950
00:43:49,354 --> 00:43:51,393
Speaker 3: this going to be a Christmas episode? And is this

951
00:43:51,434 --> 00:43:54,794
Speaker 3: the one that Anthony and Kate come back from India

952
00:43:54,834 --> 00:43:56,234
Speaker 3: to spend Christmas with their family.

953
00:43:56,634 --> 00:43:58,714
Speaker 2: I welcome them back yeah, so I like this.

954
00:43:58,874 --> 00:43:59,354
Speaker 4: I hope so.

955
00:43:59,394 --> 00:44:01,194
Speaker 2: And if we know that they don't come back, if

956
00:44:01,194 --> 00:44:04,114
Speaker 2: we're going to be disappointed by the first four, I feel.

957
00:44:03,874 --> 00:44:05,433
Speaker 1: They have to well, they have to come back early

958
00:44:05,514 --> 00:44:08,754
Speaker 1: in the next If they come back in that in

959
00:44:08,794 --> 00:44:11,274
Speaker 1: the last episode for like three minutes.

960
00:44:11,154 --> 00:44:12,873
Speaker 2: Yeah, people are gonna be mad and be like, that's

961
00:44:12,914 --> 00:44:14,354
Speaker 2: not back. That's what we're gonna write.

962
00:44:14,394 --> 00:44:17,834
Speaker 3: I'll have something to say now episode seven. I need

963
00:44:17,874 --> 00:44:19,594
Speaker 3: to be careful with my words because I don't want

964
00:44:19,594 --> 00:44:20,554
Speaker 3: to give anything away to you.

965
00:44:20,634 --> 00:44:21,594
Speaker 4: It's called the Beyond.

966
00:44:22,114 --> 00:44:24,913
Speaker 3: There is the assumption that someone dies. Now, let me

967
00:44:24,954 --> 00:44:27,274
Speaker 3: tell you, as someone who's read the book, some people

968
00:44:27,354 --> 00:44:29,554
Speaker 3: need to die. Do people need to die for the

969
00:44:29,634 --> 00:44:32,274
Speaker 3: storyline as we know it in the books to continue

970
00:44:32,554 --> 00:44:34,873
Speaker 3: and all the Bridgetens to have their happy ending. So

971
00:44:35,034 --> 00:44:38,433
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if someone passes in episode seven of series four,

972
00:44:38,634 --> 00:44:39,553
Speaker 3: I'll leave it right there.

973
00:44:40,074 --> 00:44:42,114
Speaker 2: What I love about doing this podcast is that we

974
00:44:42,154 --> 00:44:44,274
Speaker 2: can put all our predictions out here and then we

975
00:44:44,354 --> 00:44:46,794
Speaker 2: get to feel smug about week.

976
00:44:47,394 --> 00:44:48,074
Speaker 1: That's so true.

977
00:44:48,074 --> 00:44:50,953
Speaker 3: Something a bit happier is that there's definitely an exploration

978
00:44:51,154 --> 00:44:54,714
Speaker 3: of a queer or multiple queer storylines, so we know

979
00:44:54,754 --> 00:44:56,874
Speaker 3: that Elouez's book is next in line.

980
00:44:57,234 --> 00:44:58,754
Speaker 4: Some people are theorizing.

981
00:44:58,314 --> 00:45:00,474
Speaker 3: That she won't be the lead because things need to

982
00:45:00,514 --> 00:45:03,514
Speaker 3: happen in this series for that to go ahead.

983
00:45:03,794 --> 00:45:06,714
Speaker 4: I'm speaking very generally here as.

984
00:45:06,594 --> 00:45:08,634
Speaker 2: The reader Algy holds the secret.

985
00:45:08,914 --> 00:45:12,473
Speaker 3: I can tell you're holding You're like so hard, I'm

986
00:45:12,474 --> 00:45:15,754
Speaker 3: shining so hard. But there are some complicated paths from

987
00:45:15,754 --> 00:45:20,834
Speaker 3: an LGBTQIA plus perspective. For example, Francesca, we'll have a

988
00:45:20,874 --> 00:45:24,554
Speaker 3: complicated path ahead. We know about Mikayla Stirling, who is

989
00:45:24,554 --> 00:45:27,473
Speaker 3: her husband's cousin, who she already had almost like a

990
00:45:27,554 --> 00:45:30,913
Speaker 3: visceral reaction to meeting. There's a lot of speculation with

991
00:45:30,994 --> 00:45:34,433
Speaker 3: fans with no evidence. I'll say about Kate's past, whether

992
00:45:34,554 --> 00:45:37,314
Speaker 3: or not she had a romantic relationship with a woman

993
00:45:37,354 --> 00:45:39,674
Speaker 3: in India in the past, and whether that's going to

994
00:45:39,674 --> 00:45:42,433
Speaker 3: be explored again. And also we know that Benedict's had

995
00:45:42,474 --> 00:45:46,834
Speaker 3: a quick storyline in series three episodes, even back to

996
00:45:46,874 --> 00:45:49,114
Speaker 3: series one with Henry Granville when there.

997
00:45:49,074 --> 00:45:51,914
Speaker 4: Was still sort of you know, he was queer adjacent.

998
00:45:51,994 --> 00:45:55,074
Speaker 3: She might say, so, also, is he going to explain

999
00:45:55,154 --> 00:45:57,154
Speaker 3: this side of his life to Sophie this season?

1000
00:45:57,514 --> 00:45:58,114
Speaker 4: We're not sure.

1001
00:45:58,234 --> 00:46:00,714
Speaker 2: All right, Well, before we wrap up, let's talk about

1002
00:46:00,714 --> 00:46:03,873
Speaker 2: what we actually have seen in the PR tours. The

1003
00:46:03,914 --> 00:46:08,114
Speaker 2: press tours are such a huge part of a show

1004
00:46:08,154 --> 00:46:11,634
Speaker 2: coming out now really truly, I think Barbie and Oppenheimer

1005
00:46:11,714 --> 00:46:14,994
Speaker 2: changed the game so live. What has come out of

1006
00:46:15,154 --> 00:46:17,034
Speaker 2: season fourth Press two was so far well, it.

1007
00:46:17,034 --> 00:46:20,473
Speaker 1: Was an extravaganza that was like so insane. I wish

1008
00:46:20,554 --> 00:46:22,754
Speaker 1: I was invited to it. It was in Paris, yes,

1009
00:46:22,874 --> 00:46:24,194
Speaker 1: so there's.

1010
00:46:23,994 --> 00:46:25,754
Speaker 2: That Leo not just speaking French line.

1011
00:46:25,994 --> 00:46:28,674
Speaker 1: It just looked like an absolute dream. As far as

1012
00:46:28,714 --> 00:46:32,154
Speaker 1: what they've been saying, they've been very calculated. They've focused,

1013
00:46:32,314 --> 00:46:35,154
Speaker 1: I would say, mainly on making sure that they look

1014
00:46:35,394 --> 00:46:38,393
Speaker 1: like they are very good friends. They had a lot

1015
00:46:38,394 --> 00:46:42,554
Speaker 1: of chemistry on the carpet. They were very like power giggly.

1016
00:46:42,674 --> 00:46:44,834
Speaker 1: That's what I would say. That's a really good way giggly,

1017
00:46:44,914 --> 00:46:47,314
Speaker 1: like looking at each other a lot rather than looking

1018
00:46:47,394 --> 00:46:48,274
Speaker 1: at the interviewers.

1019
00:46:48,674 --> 00:46:50,874
Speaker 2: Does it feel curated or does it feel natural?

1020
00:46:52,794 --> 00:46:56,794
Speaker 1: I am gonna be controversial, it feels curated. I actually

1021
00:46:56,834 --> 00:46:57,873
Speaker 1: don't believe it that much.

1022
00:46:58,034 --> 00:47:00,314
Speaker 2: I'm like, because they're pushing too much. Do you think

1023
00:47:00,354 --> 00:47:03,074
Speaker 2: it's been like whether they're friends or not? Yeah, it

1024
00:47:03,114 --> 00:47:04,114
Speaker 2: does feel.

1025
00:47:03,914 --> 00:47:06,154
Speaker 1: I think they've been told that, like you need to

1026
00:47:06,194 --> 00:47:07,634
Speaker 1: lock in here, need to make.

1027
00:47:07,514 --> 00:47:10,913
Speaker 2: It Pamala Anderson and Liam Neeson pushing that on us.

1028
00:47:10,954 --> 00:47:12,634
Speaker 1: I think they are doing that a little bit. It

1029
00:47:12,714 --> 00:47:15,234
Speaker 1: is subtle, but it is a bit. I don't know.

1030
00:47:15,314 --> 00:47:18,033
Speaker 1: I watched one video last night. There was giggles about

1031
00:47:18,074 --> 00:47:19,913
Speaker 1: things that weren't funny, and I was like.

1032
00:47:20,074 --> 00:47:22,234
Speaker 4: I see, I don't mind that.

1033
00:47:22,394 --> 00:47:25,674
Speaker 3: I'm happy with the curated press tour because there are

1034
00:47:25,714 --> 00:47:28,953
Speaker 3: too many secrets and this is like an avengure thing.

1035
00:47:29,234 --> 00:47:31,514
Speaker 4: They can't say anything, so.

1036
00:47:33,034 --> 00:47:33,994
Speaker 1: It's like all they can do.

1037
00:47:34,554 --> 00:47:34,754
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1038
00:47:34,754 --> 00:47:36,393
Speaker 3: So I saw a video the other day where they

1039
00:47:36,394 --> 00:47:39,073
Speaker 3: were talking to the actors Hannah Dodd and Claudia Jesse,

1040
00:47:39,234 --> 00:47:41,954
Speaker 3: who are Eloise and Francesca, and the interviewer said to

1041
00:47:41,954 --> 00:47:46,074
Speaker 3: Claudia Jesse, so you're next. Now Claudia Jesse can't say anything.

1042
00:47:46,274 --> 00:47:48,953
Speaker 3: Does she know she's next? Probably, but she can't talk

1043
00:47:48,994 --> 00:47:50,994
Speaker 3: about it. So they just looked at each other and laughed,

1044
00:47:51,034 --> 00:47:54,154
Speaker 3: and then they looked at the interviewers in give us

1045
00:47:54,154 --> 00:47:57,514
Speaker 3: something else. We actually can't say anything. And you'll notice

1046
00:47:57,514 --> 00:48:00,194
Speaker 3: with a lot of the videos online, we love watching them,

1047
00:48:00,314 --> 00:48:02,674
Speaker 3: but like last season, for example, there was a whole

1048
00:48:02,754 --> 00:48:05,953
Speaker 3: video of the cast of Bridgish and answering questions while

1049
00:48:05,994 --> 00:48:08,873
Speaker 3: playing with puppies. And there's another one who am I

1050
00:48:09,114 --> 00:48:12,034
Speaker 3: sort of games that they play together, so they're really

1051
00:48:12,114 --> 00:48:14,794
Speaker 3: leaning into that thing. Hey, it does really well on socials.

1052
00:48:14,794 --> 00:48:17,754
Speaker 3: I totally get that the share factor is amazing, but

1053
00:48:17,794 --> 00:48:19,953
Speaker 3: also there's not much that they can say.

1054
00:48:19,994 --> 00:48:20,634
Speaker 1: Oh there isn't.

1055
00:48:20,834 --> 00:48:22,953
Speaker 2: I guess that's the appeal of things like Chicken Shop

1056
00:48:22,994 --> 00:48:25,354
Speaker 2: Date and Hot Wings is that people can go on

1057
00:48:25,394 --> 00:48:28,874
Speaker 2: and promote their show without promoting their show. Yeah they're themselves,

1058
00:48:28,874 --> 00:48:29,714
Speaker 2: they're promoting yourself.

1059
00:48:29,794 --> 00:48:32,874
Speaker 1: Yeah true. And maybe it is is that these guys

1060
00:48:32,954 --> 00:48:36,953
Speaker 1: aren't actually famous enough for us to care about who

1061
00:48:36,994 --> 00:48:39,114
Speaker 1: they are as a person. Not that we don't care,

1062
00:48:39,234 --> 00:48:43,154
Speaker 1: but we're just we're not there yet as like a fandom.

1063
00:48:43,234 --> 00:48:46,234
Speaker 4: Well that's that's so true.

1064
00:48:46,274 --> 00:48:50,194
Speaker 3: Like who had heard of any of these actors before Bridgeton?

1065
00:48:50,274 --> 00:48:53,034
Speaker 3: And they made a conscious effort to not hire famous people.

1066
00:48:53,354 --> 00:48:56,314
Speaker 3: So a lot of the people Lady Bridgeton, Lady Danbury

1067
00:48:56,354 --> 00:49:00,514
Speaker 3: and the Queen massive names in British theater. Nicola Cochlan

1068
00:49:00,594 --> 00:49:03,834
Speaker 3: I knew from Dairy Girls, but really everyone else was

1069
00:49:03,874 --> 00:49:06,434
Speaker 3: a bit of a no name for a reason, but strategic.

1070
00:49:06,554 --> 00:49:09,274
Speaker 2: I love that because sometimes when I watch trailers these days,

1071
00:49:09,354 --> 00:49:12,514
Speaker 2: especially if we go like Leonardo DiCaprio, bide Martin Scorsese.

1072
00:49:12,594 --> 00:49:15,433
Speaker 2: I've seen this film, yes, seen it, even though it's

1073
00:49:15,474 --> 00:49:18,393
Speaker 2: a different story, everything is the same. But when you go, oh,

1074
00:49:18,434 --> 00:49:21,674
Speaker 2: different people, Yeah, I agree. I lean in further. And

1075
00:49:21,714 --> 00:49:23,674
Speaker 2: I know that that's anti to how we cast. You

1076
00:49:23,714 --> 00:49:26,154
Speaker 2: cast names to ensure an audience. But the people who

1077
00:49:26,194 --> 00:49:28,953
Speaker 2: are brave enough to cast people who aren't known and

1078
00:49:29,034 --> 00:49:31,114
Speaker 2: do it for the right character, the right story, to

1079
00:49:31,194 --> 00:49:33,754
Speaker 2: serve the whole world, I think they have a better show.

1080
00:49:33,954 --> 00:49:36,714
Speaker 2: You're so right because also, if Leo is playing opposite

1081
00:49:36,714 --> 00:49:39,513
Speaker 2: someone who is, say thirty, I'm watching it going, well,

1082
00:49:39,554 --> 00:49:40,433
Speaker 2: this is unrealistic.

1083
00:49:40,634 --> 00:49:41,714
Speaker 4: He wouldn't be interested.

1084
00:49:41,754 --> 00:49:45,234
Speaker 3: Whereas we don't know almost anything about the British and corent.

1085
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Speaker 2: Of love life.

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Speaker 3: We don't know who Johnny Baile, who's one of the

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Speaker 3: Luke Thompson purposely never talks about his love life. He

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Speaker 3: says that it doesn't make sense as him as an

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Speaker 4: He wants you to be able to.

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Speaker 3: See him playing Benedict and believe that he wants to

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Speaker 3: you'd be able to see him on the West End

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Speaker 2: They're about the work, and I respect that they'd like Shonder.

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Speaker 2: They're just like Shonder at the top sets this ethic

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Speaker 2: of like personal life not important, Let's just do the work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, professionally, I think that's really admirable. But all I

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Speaker 4: want to know is who they're banging.

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Speaker 2: And at some point there will be wedding photos for

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Speaker 2: people like purchased at some price. We will know bits

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Speaker 2: and pieces throughout the years. I'm pretty excited from this episode,

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Speaker 2: and I hope you are too, so thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for joining us today to get across everything you

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Speaker 2: need to know before Benedict's season of Bridgeton drops on

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Speaker 2: Netflix on Thursday, twenty ninth of January. We hope you

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Speaker 2: love deep diving with us, and if you're looking for more,

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Speaker 2: make sure you check out our other watch party series.

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Speaker 2: We have whole seasons to be not Emily in Paris.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants this. The summer I turned pretty plus one

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Speaker 2: off episodes on big movies, from Wicked to the Thursday

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Speaker 2: Murder Club. Watch Party is produced by moniche Y Swarren,

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Speaker 2: audio production by Scott Stronik and video production by Michael Keane.

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Speaker 5: Bye Bye Bye, Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of

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Speaker 5: the land. We have recorded this podcast on the Gadigol

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Speaker 5: people of the Oronation. We pay our respects to their

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Speaker 5: elders past and present, and extend that respect to all

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Speaker 5: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.