Speaker 1: Welcome to the Seize the Ya podcast. Busy and happy
Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what
Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but
Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than
Speaker 1: one way. So this is a platform to hear and
Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives They adore,
Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly, the best and worst day
Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of Seizing your Yea. I'm
Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned
Speaker 1: fu entrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels to co
Speaker 1: found Matcha Maiden and matcha Milk Bar. Sez the Ya
Speaker 1: is a series of conversations on finding a life you
Speaker 1: love and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment
Speaker 1: along the way. Hello, lovely neighborhood, Welcome to our final
Speaker 1: episode of yeas of our lives for the year. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, welcome back and foot Thanks.
Speaker 2: I actually just didn't realize it just until then. That's
Speaker 2: the last of the year.
Speaker 1: I mean, we did just spend all day doing the
Speaker 1: schedule we did.
Speaker 2: I feel like it just I can't live Christmas next
Speaker 2: week for.
Speaker 1: What so also what's hilarious is I just sent out
Speaker 1: like our second dim for the year. I've done two
Speaker 1: newsletters this year, maybe maybe three, but I think two'd
Speaker 1: be like.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year. Anyway, it's a happy end of year.
Speaker 2: Thank you first, happy.
Speaker 1: The end of financial year and end of your happy.
Speaker 2: Love feeling a part of the community, and I thank
Speaker 2: you all for contributing.
Speaker 1: Max value add But one of the things I said
Speaker 1: in it was, of course, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: another incredible year. I can't believe we're still here, with
Speaker 1: this beautiful gyghborhood, still growing, still doing amazing things. Of course,
Speaker 1: as you guys know, twenty twenty two was a bit
Speaker 1: of a rollercoaster. Lots of ya's, lots of na's, and
Speaker 1: compared to sort of our big goals planning session at
Speaker 1: the start of this year, there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: we didn't get to do. There's a lot of things
Speaker 1: we didn't even dream of doing that we also did
Speaker 1: get to do. So it's been like, yeah, lots of highs,
Speaker 1: lots of flowers. But a foote is now back on
Speaker 1: board and has left her job, so we will be
Speaker 1: much more structured. We just had a big planning session,
Speaker 1: and there's so much coming away, So I promise we
Speaker 1: will stop saying we promise we'll do things and not
Speaker 1: doing them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just realized, why are we not doing reflections
Speaker 2: of the year? Are we doing questions about a frump?
Speaker 1: Because we started asking people for your anonymous Q and
Speaker 1: A like eight months ago when I sent my first newsletter,
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, I should probably do it because
Speaker 1: there's some really interesting questions. So you know, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite games ever is like Q and A but
Speaker 1: like would you rather kind of vibe and you know,
Speaker 1: it's typically called like twenty questions with Ange. Today we
Speaker 1: have like seventy two thousand questions with Ange because you
Speaker 1: had more questions submitted a recon than I did for
Speaker 1: my episode.
Speaker 2: Although we did go three around.
Speaker 1: We were like, okay the next episode.
Speaker 2: People the end of it were like, does she even
Speaker 2: get any questions?
Speaker 1: This is why they're askewer. They're just no one submitting anything.
Speaker 1: So we have so many questions. I don't even know
Speaker 1: how we're going to get these done. It might end
Speaker 1: up being a two parter. Who even knows.
Speaker 2: There's no way this will be a too far.
Speaker 1: This is like an essay like an actual essay. Anyway,
Speaker 1: there's so much juice, there's so many interesting things that
Speaker 1: have happened, and I think, you know, I think everything
Speaker 1: happens for a reason. I think we didn't get this
Speaker 1: episode done because more things have happened since you're leaving
Speaker 1: your job. There are bigger life changes that have also
Speaker 1: happened that we now get to talk about. So and
Speaker 1: Tater could push everything back, but now we're you know,
Speaker 1: here sitting down at the beautiful annotate and ready to
Speaker 1: jump right in. So I don't even know where to start.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to start with some fast fires.
Speaker 2: Okay, fast fight. Yeah, there's just one answer answers. I
Speaker 2: really prepared for this.
Speaker 1: Also, oh my god, we should have done a separate
Speaker 1: reflections episode because I have so many feelings.
Speaker 2: But I was just gonna say, should we ask for
Speaker 2: questions at the end of this episode, for questions about
Speaker 2: reflections of the year for our first of the New
Speaker 2: year episode?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, and they'll get it in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Well, first episode back will be reflecting on twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, But first, before I say, before I start
Speaker 1: the first questions, one of the most exciting things about
Speaker 1: our planning session is we've already locked in our recording
Speaker 1: dates for next year because yeah, you can actually hang
Speaker 1: out now. Yeah, because I'm retired live so we have
Speaker 1: a weekly cca full day together now, so you'll get
Speaker 1: much more bimbo content. Yeah, it's going to be so
Speaker 1: good anyway, Okay, back to the answer questions. I hope
Speaker 1: you get to know and a little bit better right
Speaker 1: on time for her coming back on to being like
Speaker 1: permanent again. So this is very exciting. Question one, how
Speaker 1: many hours of sleep did you get last night?
Speaker 2: Not enough? Six?
Speaker 1: Like, what would you do on average?
Speaker 2: I hope to get eight, is mate?
Speaker 1: Okay, but six? Do you have a middle name?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Vietnamese.
Speaker 1: It's tween me me Yeah, and I'm tweet young.
Speaker 2: Yeah you are. That's that's been Namoyd gave you. I
Speaker 2: don't know what it means.
Speaker 1: But what does tweet me mean?
Speaker 2: I have no idea what I don't know you speak.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say it means badfo butterfly, so I feel.
Speaker 1: Channel the beautiful.
Speaker 2: Womb bee.
Speaker 1: Okay, who is your person on the planet and explain
Speaker 1: why it is Nick?
Speaker 2: Because you fixed bookers at me.
Speaker 1: Next usually he doesn't even have a bar of our
Speaker 1: social media yea or no, he doesn't even follow anither
Speaker 1: of us, So like, how did he even submit? And
Speaker 1: that's not even a not nice question.
Speaker 2: Also, guys, Sarah hasn't read any of these questions, and
Speaker 2: I've barely read them. I've just copied and pasted onto this.
Speaker 1: This is a blind react. Okay, this is what? Okay,
Speaker 1: So in my vein of loving, would you rathers This
Speaker 1: is an awesome question? So whoever submitted this? By the way,
Speaker 1: these are all submitted anonymously, so they're going to get
Speaker 1: more intense. But this one's awesome. Sock sock shoe shoe
Speaker 1: or sock shoe sock shoe sock socks issue sucks, sock
Speaker 1: shoe shoe sucked. Yeah, I can only the other one
Speaker 1: called for a hot minute. No, but some people might
Speaker 1: like to get one whole side done. No, it's definitely
Speaker 1: socks sock shoes.
Speaker 2: You're running late like a burger in your house. You
Speaker 2: just have to google it. Google it.
Speaker 1: Man, did we just talk about this in an antactic repisod? Okay,
Speaker 1: So guys, for the google it reference, you'll have to
Speaker 1: go back a couple of episodes. Again another one of
Speaker 1: our stupid jokes. It doesn't make sense to anyone, which
Speaker 1: also will come back to it because a third party
Speaker 1: has been involved recently and I tried to explain Google
Speaker 1: it and she didn't really think it was that funny
Speaker 1: because it's not. Okay, Oh my god. Number five you
Speaker 1: really attracted? Was this from said person?
Speaker 2: You don't know?
Speaker 1: No, I it's like you don't know who this Okay.
Speaker 1: If you could design the perfect meal on Trey main side,
Speaker 1: dish and dessert and drink, what would it be? Does
Speaker 1: not need to make sense. I like that they clarify
Speaker 1: that because sometimes when you say, like five pantry items,
Speaker 1: people like, well, like oil because you have to cook
Speaker 1: the yea and oil. Like, No, it doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be consistent.
Speaker 2: It's true, Okay. Main mail is definitely a Japanese situation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably like a sushimi and sushi platter.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like a combo salmon.
Speaker 2: My drink would be bubble tea right now, really well,
Speaker 2: right now we're in a bubble te face.
Speaker 1: I have not seen you drink bubble teach. Oh that's
Speaker 1: because I asked you not to do it in front
Speaker 1: of me, That's right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because you're not yeah kidding, live in real Asian and
Speaker 2: then entree would probably be like Rotty with Sarte sauce.
Speaker 1: Oh I love Rotty with Sara Sauce. Dessert probably trimsu
Speaker 1: So okay, how tall are you? Times too? So what's
Speaker 1: your height? And then jump no, two people are.
Speaker 2: I'm actually quite tall. Someone baked a differ my whole
Speaker 2: one sixty four point five?
Speaker 1: Are you one sixty four point five? I've only one
Speaker 1: sixty eight? We're not that far away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in photos looks.
Speaker 1: Just as you were heels and I don't. We did
Speaker 1: a fashion show today. Oh my god, it was so good.
Speaker 1: One of the funnest things about having ansback during the
Speaker 1: weekdays is we have time to do fashion shows. So
Speaker 1: she's going to a wedding this weekend and is borrowing
Speaker 1: a dress. And we've done like three different fashion shows
Speaker 1: so far. Yeah, and you're not fit in my heels.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, like the pinky toes out of
Speaker 2: that doesn't fit. It's like.
Speaker 1: Okay. Someone said, oh my god, bro, I saw you
Speaker 1: at CBM, but was too scared to say hi because
Speaker 1: my friends have called me weirdo for being too friendly. Before,
Speaker 1: so Hey for.
Speaker 2: Now and it's anonymous I don't know who, but CBM
Speaker 2: Cheaper by Miles. It's the discount store.
Speaker 1: I sell you at the Preject Shop, which is actually
Speaker 1: one of my favorite places to shop. I saw you
Speaker 1: not quite right, and I thought, this makes sense.
Speaker 2: Do you hang you up quite.
Speaker 1: I didn't even question it, it just makes it.
Speaker 2: It was quite right.
Speaker 1: But you know what, that makes me really sad that
Speaker 1: anyone's friends would like call them a widow for being
Speaker 1: too friendly, because I feel like one of the most
Speaker 1: disappointing things is when someone messages you after they saw
Speaker 1: you somewhere and they're like, I love the show where
Speaker 1: I've read you know, your book or something, and you
Speaker 1: don't get to meet them in person.
Speaker 2: Get that every day almost, but you do.
Speaker 1: Guys. Once I was either a DFO in coens Land
Speaker 1: and some chick comes up to Nick and I and goes,
Speaker 1: oh my god, are you and s Foot's friends from Instagram?
Speaker 1: That is what I'm not like six years ago even
Speaker 1: more so. Okay, but please always go up and say
Speaker 1: hi to and she like you absolute. I love it,
Speaker 1: yeah too, I love it so much. Never make fun
Speaker 1: of your friends for being too friendly with other people.
Speaker 1: So it's a beautiful trait. You seem to travel with
Speaker 1: your favorite sister Jen a lot. You must look after
Speaker 1: her the most.
Speaker 2: She one time when I was young, one time I
Speaker 2: said Jen was my idol?
Speaker 1: Did you say that I must have?
Speaker 2: I don't remember because because.
Speaker 1: You're totally making that now, she goes, you know you
Speaker 1: should help me because I'm your idol. Jen is so funny. Okay, next,
Speaker 1: I never also one more like inside fact about Jen.
Speaker 1: That's so funny is you guys are so loyal to
Speaker 1: each other, your whole family. You guys are the closest
Speaker 1: in age. It's so sweet. But then when I asked
Speaker 1: Jen like loving words for your kind of gost birthday book,
Speaker 1: she was like, dear Ange, you are funny love Jen.
Speaker 1: And I was like no, but really sent him seriously,
Speaker 1: and she's like, that's all.
Speaker 2: One time we were saying, like when we were young, we'd
Speaker 2: say bike. I was like saying by it when I
Speaker 2: was going to school camp. She did you just like
Speaker 2: kicked me and was like, bye.
Speaker 1: Literally, okay, weirdest thing you've ever eaten.
Speaker 2: It's not really weird though, but culturally I'd say, well stop,
Speaker 2: get your mind out of the gutter, get your mind.
Speaker 2: You are just I was gonna say, it's like when
Speaker 2: we were younger. Actually, no, this is quite weird. But
Speaker 2: it's cultural duck egg but the whole duck is still
Speaker 2: in the Oh no, have you seen? Have you you
Speaker 2: know of that? It's an Asian thing and they have
Speaker 2: it like when the baby duck's still in the egg.
Speaker 1: And is it like a delicacy or is it kind
Speaker 1: of yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's really interesting.
Speaker 1: How do you get your brain passed? Mental? Well?
Speaker 2: The fact that everyone else eating it is so normal,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, like me, Yeah, it's weird. It's really weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is such a strange one. Not a question
Speaker 1: for aswot, but a serious to find that. That's really
Speaker 1: really sweet that you are. Yes, my teeth are real?
Speaker 1: Is it because they're so good that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're perfect?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're my real teeth. But I've also had
Speaker 1: in vizzil line when I was younger, I had braces
Speaker 1: on the bottom, so they were definitely crooked when I
Speaker 1: was younger, and.
Speaker 2: She did just come back from Turkey and had that shape.
Speaker 1: It's a whole new note, didn't you notice?
Speaker 2: So there's parts of my teeth that I ruined.
Speaker 1: Therefore, yeah the gum they No, my teeth are real,
Speaker 1: but I have had them straightened at Uni. I think
Speaker 1: I had in biziline on the top, braces on the
Speaker 1: bottom and I get them whitened. Yeah. Still, but my
Speaker 1: actual real teeth and no ovin ears or anything. Have
Speaker 1: you ever watched Harry Potter? Oh yes, we have to
Speaker 1: include a reference to that video. Well, we actually went
Speaker 1: to see We went to the premiere together and the Curse.
Speaker 2: Child, falling off my seat because it was so good.
Speaker 1: You were so awkward. I was like, come get a
Speaker 1: photo and you were like no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but back then I wasn't hot. Now I am.
Speaker 1: Again, I was like a month ago. Since you're the
Speaker 1: one who went to Turkey, it's true. See those boobies,
Speaker 1: I know they're not real.
Speaker 2: See no longer seeding.
Speaker 1: No, that was actually so much fun. I was like
Speaker 1: on the media wall getting normal photos and you were
Speaker 1: like at the platform nine and three quarters jomping and
Speaker 1: trying to make it look like you were going through
Speaker 1: the wall. Oh my god, so mature. When when is
Speaker 1: Nicki Boy getting back on the podcast? Multiple bit? Someone
Speaker 1: else asked me recently can you do an episode with Nick?
Speaker 1: And I was like, we already have and she was like,
Speaker 1: that was ages ago. It's definitely time. As you guys
Speaker 1: probably remember, he's had a pretty tough year, so he
Speaker 1: hasn't quite been in the podcasting zone. But we have
Speaker 1: a lot of family planning and things twenty three, so
Speaker 1: I would definitely get him back on our favorite food I.
Speaker 2: Can say, I'm gonna say cuisine Japanese. I can just
Speaker 2: eat endless amounts.
Speaker 1: Of Oh, who's your last snap from me?
Speaker 2: You haven't had snub touched since like twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm going to redownload it because you know,
Speaker 1: the mouth swap filter, the TikTok one only works on cats,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hold, I need to swamp get you
Speaker 1: down with that. I will, I will, babe, I will.
Speaker 1: What are your plans this weekend weddings?
Speaker 2: I'll be staying to rent to them and crushing my
Speaker 2: friend's house and then we have recovery and then I'll
Speaker 2: go see another front on Sunday.
Speaker 1: And you're worrying my backwards dress?
Speaker 2: Yes, so good. You have good style.
Speaker 1: I know it's my clothes that she's wearing every time
Speaker 1: you think that what music do you listen to? Oh,
Speaker 1: you're very broad.
Speaker 2: I'm quite broad. I actually in the breasts, in all
Speaker 2: the areas that you can be broad. I realized actually
Speaker 2: quite why. I actually realized the other day, like like
Speaker 2: cage shut your ears, but these actually like woh, like Malaias.
Speaker 1: Over there, what visits?
Speaker 2: And this is K two kre that wasn't even the question.
Speaker 1: And how I got music, Like I love I'm literally
Speaker 1: crying like seeing.
Speaker 2: A songwriter, but also like really appreciate like indie and
Speaker 2: like right now, I'm really into the playlist of the
Speaker 2: Triple J Covers playlist, which is really fun and awesome.
Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting about you? You're also like
Speaker 1: the bangers that you love listening to aure from our generation,
Speaker 1: not even our generation. They're the bangers that our parents
Speaker 1: listen to. So Nick Ca and I listen to like
Speaker 1: Credence clear Water and like Neil Diamond and like you
Speaker 1: know all those songs. Yeah, yeah, it's so weird, Like
Speaker 1: it's so strange. Where did you even get that from?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you one day, but I'm actually seventy three.
Speaker 1: It's bloom Effects.
Speaker 2: Sponset.
Speaker 1: But you also love modern music. As well. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you're like a fan of beaber Love, Beabes Love the
Speaker 1: Younger Younger Realie Eilish. I love our sing along.
Speaker 2: King Singer a special mention.
Speaker 1: Okay, our beauty and the beat like car playlist Bimbulla.
Speaker 1: We went to a place called dim Baller and you
Speaker 1: guys know we call each other bim So the playlist
Speaker 1: is called bill Yeah sometimes often actually, Okay, toilet time
Speaker 1: is for Reddit, instat emails, googling, medical pooh questions, emails,
Speaker 1: people know you too well. Okay, weirdest thing you've ever eaten?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: I think it very well? Have you done drugs? In question?
Speaker 1: How far are we allowed to go into this?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think we set the rules here.
Speaker 2: Not a lot though, But no, like you, I don't
Speaker 2: care like that. I'm not ashamed of that.
Speaker 1: No. But involves third parties, third parties. But yeah, let's
Speaker 1: still short.
Speaker 2: It involves Michael from the place what Michael Cullen, Michael
Speaker 2: Cullen that stressing read the room.
Speaker 1: Don't even know the Michael Colort.
Speaker 2: Is not a real person. Sorry if there is a
Speaker 2: Micael column.
Speaker 1: Listening, But it was, I was there and it was
Speaker 1: the funniest thing that's ever happened. So you drunk is
Speaker 1: really really annoying to me, like drunk drunk, You drunk
Speaker 1: is really annoyed. You high is the funniest me.
Speaker 2: Tipsy is fun me. Drunk drunk is.
Speaker 1: It's an actual libry, like read nearly we fought twice
Speaker 1: and once you were drunk.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite kind of pie? Sweet or savory?
Speaker 2: I don't eat pie?
Speaker 1: Okay, sure that was way. What time do you usually
Speaker 1: go to bed? That's come same, like probably ten, ten thirty.
Speaker 1: What made you become a vegetarian even though you're pesco now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, proscure now. I think it was modstitude of things
Speaker 2: like once I watched a documentary and hot how hot
Speaker 2: dogs were made? And then I also I did like
Speaker 2: this one subject once in Union it was like agriculture
Speaker 2: and water and stuff. And then also the fact I
Speaker 2: didn't really eat much meat already, so I was like buddy,
Speaker 2: although the day after I went vegetarian, I told everyone
Speaker 2: I bought him sim.
Speaker 1: And also you're really lovely when you're traveling and like
Speaker 1: someone low call makes you a local delicacy and you
Speaker 1: don't want to interrupt everything you've just eat it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am like the least activist veterinarian and in socialinarian.
Speaker 2: If it comes to a point where I genuinely am
Speaker 2: like being more annoying to be Vegi, then I'll just like,
Speaker 2: you know, have the stock or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Who do you have pinned on I message? Other than me?
Speaker 2: I don't even know people. I didn't realize people did that,
Speaker 2: but I don't have anyone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I accidentally did it once and it was someone
Speaker 1: where I was liked and I can't find the profile.
Speaker 2: Where is it?
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh my god. Okay, so there are so many questions.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to mix up the order
Speaker 1: because I think we should really cover work work because
Speaker 1: you have recently love how everyone thinks and is retired.
Speaker 1: She's not retired. She is still working and making some monies.
Speaker 1: I love that. One of the questions was like, literally,
Speaker 1: how did you retire? She's not retired?
Speaker 2: People take me too seriously.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's pre resignation for anyone who wants to
Speaker 1: get into the healthcare system. I would love to know
Speaker 1: your tips and tricks to getting a job in the
Speaker 1: public hospital system. I'm an ot who has been out
Speaker 1: of UNI for two years, approaching grade two, wants to
Speaker 1: make the jump from private to public.
Speaker 2: My biggest tip is to still buy it because right
Speaker 2: now the hospitals are desperate for OTS for all of
Speaker 2: allied health, particularly for social work, physio and OT. But
Speaker 2: they're so desperate at the minute, not to say that
Speaker 2: your skill set in other circumstances wouldn't get you in,
Speaker 2: but they're yet really wanting a lot more people in
Speaker 2: the hospital at the minute. It's a bit of a
Speaker 2: struggle town, so everyone's a bit overworked, a bit stress.
Speaker 2: If you find that the card, you can always start
Speaker 2: as a casual. The casual banks are quite large at
Speaker 2: all the major hospitals, and so you can always start
Speaker 2: as casual and then work your way in. If you
Speaker 2: can start casual, it means you get access to the
Speaker 2: internal emails. Now it works in most places is that
Speaker 2: they have to advertise internally before they go external. So
Speaker 2: if you're already a casual, you get that first preference
Speaker 2: of kind of applying. So, yeah, heaps of casual opportunities
Speaker 2: that already be out there. And then right now, yeah,
Speaker 2: hospitals are really desperate for OT. It shouldn't be a
Speaker 2: huge issue if you've already been two years out, I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's already a lot that you can do. I
Speaker 2: guess a strategic other way you could do it is
Speaker 2: if you've worked in community for a while, you can
Speaker 2: apply for a rehab job or a sub acute job,
Speaker 2: and that way it's quite an easy jump back into
Speaker 2: that kind of community or home visit style therapy.
Speaker 1: I'm going to mold two questions together. One is what
Speaker 1: was your favorite part about working in healthcare? And what
Speaker 1: was the hardest part or the parts that made it
Speaker 1: kind of easier for you to jump away from it,
Speaker 1: including the stress of being an allied health professional.
Speaker 2: Okay, the first part was your favorite thing about working
Speaker 2: in healthcare? I think it's probably the same as what
Speaker 2: most people have about healthcare. You get to this amazing
Speaker 2: perspective on life that you wouldn't otherwise because you get
Speaker 2: to know people at a much deeper level, particularly as
Speaker 2: a physio or say like a OT or any of
Speaker 2: the allied health We've just spent a lot of time
Speaker 2: with patients and so you have to really understand them.
Speaker 2: But you also see where people come from in ways
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't necessarily know about people walking the street,
Speaker 2: you know, like you understand how cultures affect health and
Speaker 2: understanding of it. You understand the types of hardships people
Speaker 2: have been through beyond what you already know, which is
Speaker 2: actually really quite interesting. Yeah, and then you meet them
Speaker 2: as a person and you put it together and you're like, actually,
Speaker 2: I've met someone like you before. You know, I maybe
Speaker 2: have previously judged someone like that, But you start to
Speaker 2: learn that people are so diverse with their stories and
Speaker 2: who they are that you have this amazing perspective on
Speaker 2: culture and life and being a lot more open minded
Speaker 2: to people and understanding of people. And also some of
Speaker 2: them just are so you know, my last rotation was
Speaker 2: on a stroke board, and you see how strong willed
Speaker 2: and resilient they are to keep fighting for something that
Speaker 2: you would be like, I just would have given up
Speaker 2: like a long time ago. You know. You get people
Speaker 2: that have been nice for seventy days, or people have
Speaker 2: been stuck to a bed for one hundred days, which
Speaker 2: is not common in a cute setting, and they kind
Speaker 2: of just keep going, keep going, keep going for reasons
Speaker 2: that you otherwise when understand, you know, like motivations. Everyone's
Speaker 2: got very different styles. But yeah, so you see this
Speaker 2: amazing diverse group of people across the line life span
Speaker 2: and with so many different stories from all parts of
Speaker 2: Australian of the world. So yeah, really beautiful perspective on
Speaker 2: life and really great stories because yeah, I think in
Speaker 2: the nicest way possible. Sometimes things, really funny things just
Speaker 2: happen in hospitals and they're just so wild that you
Speaker 2: just laugh at them. You know, like you know, you're
Speaker 2: hoisting someone and they're just shit everywhere or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: or like you're laughing at you. Yeah, it's true, Okay.
Speaker 2: And then the MDT, the Multidistan pre team is like
Speaker 2: just I love being a part of particularly role Malburne.
Speaker 2: We all sit in the same office, so it's really
Speaker 2: really fun. And then you just feel like you're leaving
Speaker 2: some sort of impact or you're doing something that's purposeful,
Speaker 2: which is really nice too. That's my favorite. And what's
Speaker 2: the second part something.
Speaker 1: About managing the stress of it. And they're like in
Speaker 1: the immense emotional load, but then also what made it
Speaker 1: easier for you to leave and jump towards something else
Speaker 1: for you personally, not necessarily for everyone. That was the
Speaker 1: same when people ask me why I left, Laura. I
Speaker 1: don't think everyone finds these things. It's just what I found.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the stressful parts of it, like at the time
Speaker 2: was like I said before, the hospitals are really desperate
Speaker 2: for our laid health people kind of moving in and
Speaker 2: out of it. There's a lot of turnover. Not for reasons,
Speaker 2: it's just been a really tough two years with COVID
Speaker 2: and stuff, so like stuff shortages is hurt and COVID
Speaker 2: uncertainty is hurt a lot as well, So you kind
Speaker 2: of have to be really adaptable. And then I guess
Speaker 2: my personal thing is like my last rotation, it was
Speaker 2: a seven thirty to four pm work time structure, and
Speaker 2: it just doesn't like I just don't do that very well,
Speaker 2: Like to have to kind of get to work to
Speaker 2: be on by seven thirty and four o'clock never really
Speaker 2: is four o'clock. It's probably like four thirty and five,
Speaker 2: and by that time you're like, well, I could have
Speaker 2: just done it nine to five and had the morning
Speaker 2: where you don't you know, you kind of staying back
Speaker 2: a little bit, which is not uncommon. It's not at
Speaker 2: all encouraged or it's very much round upon to stay
Speaker 2: later but you kind of have to sometimes in that
Speaker 2: way it's stressful, But I actually find it less stressful
Speaker 2: than what I'm doing now, because like I have leaders on,
Speaker 2: like my supervisors that kind of delegate to me, and
Speaker 2: then my tasks and my tasks, and when they've done,
Speaker 2: they've done. When I go home, I go home. So
Speaker 2: in that sense, it's like, I guess that's the stress.
Speaker 2: Emotional wise, sometimes, like sometimes if you have like a
Speaker 2: strong emotional reform with someone who then goes to pass away,
Speaker 2: that sometimes is really sad. And I've only really had
Speaker 2: one case that has I've held on to for a while.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I think I said to you,
Speaker 2: I think you find it it's very contextual for sad
Speaker 2: things that happen in the hospital because they're there and
Speaker 2: they're already unwell. I feel like if the same thing
Speaker 2: happened randomly on the street to become a lot more traumatic, whereas, yeah,
Speaker 2: because as in the hospital they're already on well, it
Speaker 2: kind of makes sense in the space that you are.
Speaker 2: So from an emotional stress standpoint, that's actually fine. But personally, again,
Speaker 2: I was extremely well supported at ROLL Melbourne, so I
Speaker 2: experience really had a really positive experience. It's more like
Speaker 2: the I just really couldn't do the structured time, Like
Speaker 2: I just got exhausted from doing that, from being there
Speaker 2: at seven thirty. They're not getting out until you know,
Speaker 2: four point thirty and then doing your gym stuff, which
Speaker 2: is while everyone has to do every day, but just
Speaker 2: for me, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the overarching thing that I've learned over time
Speaker 1: watching myself, you lots of other people finding the life
Speaker 1: structure that suits them the best, is that we all
Speaker 1: just don't have the same composition and our productivity and
Speaker 1: ideas and workflow and ideal just life setup looks I mean,
Speaker 1: of course it looks different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think on top of that, my life
Speaker 2: structure was very different, like that was my job, but
Speaker 2: I also have multiple other jobs, yes, and to have
Speaker 2: that take up structured amount of time so of my
Speaker 2: day where I genuinely couldn't do anything else. Because I'm
Speaker 2: such a multitasker. I can do multiple, like a few
Speaker 2: things at once, but if I'm with a patient, obviously
Speaker 2: I can't go it's responding to email us at the
Speaker 2: same time. Yeah, that was where it was hard for
Speaker 2: me because I just had a lot of things going on.
Speaker 1: So that kind of leads to the questions that are
Speaker 1: all about the transition out of physio and into something else,
Speaker 1: but particularly around the fact that I think, let's start
Speaker 1: with this one. This was a longer question, but what
Speaker 1: revelations life altering epiphanies, et cetera did you get from
Speaker 1: quitting your job to truly seize your AA? And that
Speaker 1: was not anonymous, It was from Katie who's a long
Speaker 1: time follower. But I think part of that is also
Speaker 1: you were doing both for a while and a lot
Speaker 1: of people who make a jump, they don't jump to nothing.
Speaker 1: They jumped to something, which means that in the middle
Speaker 1: you've got both going on, and the stress is like
Speaker 1: exponentially more so, what were your revelations that helped you
Speaker 1: go from managing everything physio, your social media, work, exercise, eating, Well,
Speaker 1: that was from a stress healthcare worker. And then what
Speaker 1: helped you through to go, Okay, now I need to
Speaker 1: do something?
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, the first part was the whole question
Speaker 2: about how did you have time for all of it
Speaker 2: is your own social medidity and all the exercise activities.
Speaker 2: Obviously I came to a pot where I just didn't actually,
Speaker 2: which is probably part of why I left. I'd done
Speaker 2: it for a very very very long time. I've done
Speaker 2: it for the best part of six years, managing a
Speaker 2: quite high workload. But it came to a point in
Speaker 2: my life where I was like, I actually like this
Speaker 2: go go go nature isn't sustainable. And also like I
Speaker 2: had to sit down and be like why, Like why
Speaker 2: am I betting myself to the ground, Like I just
Speaker 2: keep I have this scene where I just keep saying
Speaker 2: yes to more clients that ask, and I'm like, but
Speaker 2: is it really better? Like it's going to benefit my
Speaker 2: future in any way. So I came to that point
Speaker 2: where I was like, actually, there's going to be a
Speaker 2: time where I choose it for not like necessary for
Speaker 2: career progression, but just things that I really want to do.
Speaker 2: How I fit in time wise is I have really
Speaker 2: great self awareness and how quickly I can get things done.
Speaker 2: And so I came to a point where I kind
Speaker 2: of accepted things and moved around my times. Like if
Speaker 2: I was like, I have dinner, but I also don't
Speaker 2: like I want to go to their dinner. But I
Speaker 2: also have this jew I'm really good at knowing how
Speaker 2: long it might take me. So I'm like, it's going
Speaker 2: to be forty five minutes, and so I can happily
Speaker 2: do that after dinner. And I also some compromises like
Speaker 2: if it's sometimes it's you do wake up early to
Speaker 2: finish a job, or you stay up later and you
Speaker 2: go to that dinner, but you know that you're going
Speaker 2: to go home to work after. So so those a
Speaker 2: few times where I'll be out dinner and they might
Speaker 2: have kick ons and I was like, actually, I've got
Speaker 2: actually immediate at nine. And those are the compromises that
Speaker 2: you make. So it's just based on what you want
Speaker 2: to value prioritize in your life. Like if you want
Speaker 2: to prioritize work, you want to meet work in life,
Speaker 2: social life in the middle. That's where you make it work.
Speaker 2: But I always think it's almost impossible to make it
Speaker 2: all work at one hundred percent like level, you know,
Speaker 2: like you're kind of compromising on a little bit of
Speaker 2: them at once to make it doable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you have to have in any
Speaker 1: kind of situation where you're juggling multiple passions, whether you
Speaker 1: want one to be full time or not, or whether
Speaker 1: you're transitioning or not, even if it's just you want
Speaker 1: to stay in your full time job and have your
Speaker 1: hobby on the side. Extreme time management skills is like
Speaker 1: maybe the most important thing. Yeah, otherwise you don't do
Speaker 1: any of them properly. Prioritization becomes really important and it's
Speaker 1: totally doable. It's just practicing how to prioritize properly so
Speaker 1: that it doesn't burn you out completely, so that none
Speaker 1: of it is enjoyable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and unless it's serving me, then I put it in
Speaker 2: the bin. Yeah. I think that's the thing is where
Speaker 2: you have to you have to realize that when things
Speaker 2: are actually making your life any better, you got to
Speaker 2: put them in the bin. But back to the early
Speaker 2: epiphanies from Katie just could, Yeah, epiphanies revolutions or revelations
Speaker 2: that I had were actually around. I had that whole
Speaker 2: anxiety thing of quitting that I was speaking about this
Speaker 2: in a previous podcast, and the minute I could come
Speaker 2: to terms with it that it wasn't a permanent decision
Speaker 2: that I could come back to. It wasn't that I
Speaker 2: could come back to physio and that my thing, actually,
Speaker 2: one of my biggest things was when I get to eighty,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna literally look back and be like that one
Speaker 2: year that I tried something else is a literal blip
Speaker 2: in my life, Like it doesn't actually put me back.
Speaker 2: I kept being like, that's going to put me back
Speaker 2: a whole year physio or more, which in a fifty
Speaker 2: year career or a forty year career, one year of
Speaker 2: that is a blip. And in that time of the
Speaker 2: twelve months, I could have gained all these other skills
Speaker 2: that were better at me as a physio. So once
Speaker 2: I came to the realization and that's how it's going
Speaker 2: to work, that it's not a forever decision. I can
Speaker 2: come back to physio. That's the beauty of the job
Speaker 2: and the safety of the job, security of the job,
Speaker 2: then it became a less scary decision. And the other
Speaker 2: revelations I had was I wouldn't be able to do
Speaker 2: what I do in my life with other people around
Speaker 2: me supported me to get there, Like it's a really
Speaker 2: big thing for me. I don't think I would make
Speaker 2: many bold decisions that I do without not that I
Speaker 2: need reassurance always, but without the support of the people
Speaker 2: around me that make me feel like I can do it,
Speaker 2: I just actually wouldn't do it. I have a good
Speaker 2: amount of self belief, but not enough to make these
Speaker 2: huge decisions all the time. So those were probably my big,
Speaker 2: big life things, And I guess my last one was like,
Speaker 2: you could die tomorrow and would you be happy with
Speaker 2: the life that you lived? It's something that I've always said.
Speaker 1: That is something you've always said, and I've always said
Speaker 1: the other point that you noted about the future regreat
Speaker 1: management thing, Like I've always said, a year right now
Speaker 1: seems like a huge percentage of the life I've lived,
Speaker 1: but future me, that will seem like a blip. Like
Speaker 1: sometimes you do have to look ahead and think about
Speaker 1: how you will feel in twenty thirty, forty years, and
Speaker 1: I don't know that perspective sometimes makes it easier to make.
Speaker 2: Me feel small.
Speaker 1: It feels smaller, And then like I feel like you
Speaker 1: can make a decision feel bigger or small all based
Speaker 1: on how you look at it, and if you want
Speaker 1: it to feel smaller, you just think about it in
Speaker 1: a way that makes it easier for you to do it.
Speaker 1: And that links into another one of the questions, which
Speaker 1: was about the crippling anxiety about the future and especially
Speaker 1: and we'll get into this because family also has a role.
Speaker 1: This is a separate section, but just for now touching
Speaker 1: on the Asian heritage, guilt and shame about being unemployed.
Speaker 1: You technically weren't unemployed, but even still you're working away
Speaker 1: from something that's secure, prestigious, all that stuff, And a
Speaker 1: lot of the other questions were also about how did
Speaker 1: you have something to jump to? How did you even
Speaker 1: get that role? How did you move into? Like how
Speaker 1: do you create the first step? So a lot of
Speaker 1: people want to work their way into a non nine
Speaker 1: to five job where they can work and travel and cza,
Speaker 1: but they don't know where to start. So how did
Speaker 1: you even create a situation where you had something to
Speaker 1: jump to?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think my situation is really unique, which is
Speaker 2: why I think I've like people have they personally asked
Speaker 2: this question a few times to me, and I think
Speaker 2: my response is, I don't know if it's necessarily helpful,
Speaker 2: because it's because I said yes to so many things
Speaker 2: when I was younger, like it pretty much how I
Speaker 2: got into this is I met Sarah like seven years
Speaker 2: ago or something like that, and it was like a
Speaker 2: brunch and talking about Match Maiden and I just said
Speaker 2: I'm at Union. I got six content hours, and I
Speaker 2: just want to try new things. Is anything I can
Speaker 2: help you with? And no kidding, that was my leg
Speaker 2: up in and that's how I got to where I
Speaker 2: am to be able to have the opportunities that I do.
Speaker 2: And in that I kind of I was helping with
Speaker 2: the social media and through that I learned Adobe, and
Speaker 2: then I taught myself that, and then I learned about
Speaker 2: marketing and then consumer behavior and I think that's like
Speaker 2: being a physio, you kind of quite emotionally aware about
Speaker 2: how people respond to things as it is as well.
Speaker 2: And then through that it was a bit of like
Speaker 2: a word of mouth referral. People kept referring me to
Speaker 2: or asking me to help with their social media, marketing,
Speaker 2: and strategy and content all in one, and I think
Speaker 2: I realized my skill set was very unique in that
Speaker 2: I could do all of them as opposed to just
Speaker 2: you know, some people can only just do the marketing
Speaker 2: side of it, where they can coordinate a feed or something,
Speaker 2: but they can't create high level content where it's something
Speaker 2: that I could do at a decent level across the board,
Speaker 2: which was very helpful because it meant they didn't have
Speaker 2: to hire a creative team and a marketing team. They
Speaker 2: did it all in one person. And then at the
Speaker 2: same time, like I had like pretty low rates for
Speaker 2: a while because I was still learning on the job
Speaker 2: and that was more valuable to me than the financial return.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, it literally from there's been a word
Speaker 2: of mouth, Like I've never advertised I've done it. It's
Speaker 2: all been word of mouth. So then I started growing
Speaker 2: my client teleent who I was writing strategies for or
Speaker 2: helping with their marketing. And then since then, I think
Speaker 2: I've been in like twelve different industries, which has been
Speaker 2: really cool because you get to understand different demographics, parts
Speaker 2: of the world, some of them international. I've purposely held
Speaker 2: on to that not because I thought it was a
Speaker 2: good job to have, It's because I enjoyed it, and
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of gets bottom line, is that
Speaker 2: you got to find something you enjoy and then after
Speaker 2: that doesn't feel like work, and then saying yes to
Speaker 2: things doesn't seem so arduous, and then when you're really
Speaker 2: passionate about something kind of you almost naturally fall into
Speaker 2: what you want to do. It's kind of just taking
Speaker 2: that leap at the start and saying yes to opportunities
Speaker 2: and things. So yeah, I did have a job lined
Speaker 2: up before with a couple of clients that I already
Speaker 2: have been working with, and I knew they kind of
Speaker 2: had always been wanting me to go full time. I
Speaker 2: just never took that jump in that leap, and I
Speaker 2: just was too scared to have a conversation with them.
Speaker 2: And the one time I did have the conversation with them,
Speaker 2: they were like, of course, they wrote a contract overnight
Speaker 2: had it for me, a twelve month contract working full time,
Speaker 2: fully remote and full flexy hours. And then I was like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, like I can't say no to this. So
Speaker 2: that was why I made the jump, But it took
Speaker 2: me nine months to feel secure to do that. Like
Speaker 2: there was a nine month period where I was like
Speaker 2: looking for a job, looking for a job, looking for
Speaker 2: a job, and it was right there under my kind
Speaker 2: of nose. I just never really pursued it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it was I think if I didn't have a job,
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have jumped.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always say that you need something to jump too,
Speaker 1: because then it's not to jump into the abyss. It's
Speaker 1: like a jump to something that you can imagine.
Speaker 2: And I think is like I think I would highly
Speaker 2: recommend jumping into something, but the something doesn't need to
Speaker 2: be full time like crazy hours. If you can, so,
Speaker 2: I say, out your financial situation that allows you to work.
Speaker 2: If you calculate you could do part time for four months,
Speaker 2: then that's amazing. Four months to kind of reset and
Speaker 2: see what you like out there, try different things, learn
Speaker 2: different things, and then if it doesn't work, I would
Speaker 2: recommend always to have like a backup plan, like a
Speaker 2: plan B, so if it doesn't work, go back to
Speaker 2: the same job. If it doesn't work, you could always
Speaker 2: work at this place whatever it is. It feels less
Speaker 2: anxiety or you feel less anxious doing it that way.
Speaker 2: And then with family, this is actually quite funny because
Speaker 2: I've just realized I've actually told my parents have quit.
Speaker 2: I've been a long time ago, so back to being Asian.
Speaker 2: That's part of it. Like you sometimes it is. I'm
Speaker 2: not scared of telling my parents. It's more I know
Speaker 2: they'll be severely disappointed, and describing it in a way
Speaker 2: that makes them still feel like I am successful is
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to think about the way to go
Speaker 2: about that for them to understand. Yeah, if I said
Speaker 2: I work in marketing for some startups, they'd be like,
Speaker 2: what is that? That freak is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So yeah, being Asian, that's just how it is.
Speaker 2: That it's a lot tied down to prestige and status
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But yeah, I know they'll be
Speaker 2: supportive fronte talent, but it's just a bit of ripping
Speaker 2: that band it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We have a whole section on questions about on
Speaker 1: that note about cultural differences and yeah, that it's like
Speaker 1: pitching things to different people in your life differently based
Speaker 1: on what their values are and what they comprehend and
Speaker 1: what they prioritize. And that's a whole thing. But just
Speaker 1: quickly before we move on from the work thing, I
Speaker 1: think it's really important to highlight and it's been so
Speaker 1: interesting watching you as well that it's been almost exactly
Speaker 1: the same way that I did it. It was in
Speaker 1: the works for years. You never set out thinking I
Speaker 1: want to leave my job. In fact, it was like
Speaker 1: possible years before you even acknowledged it yourself. I think
Speaker 1: people who are feeling lost about how to move out
Speaker 1: of a nine to five, it really is that it's
Speaker 1: put the feelers out and do things bit by bit,
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to have this nine to five
Speaker 1: jumped to full time entrepreneurship. It's nine to five, you know,
Speaker 1: do a side project on the side, maybe have two clients,
Speaker 1: three clients, four clients, back to three, back to two.
Speaker 1: Like there's so much experiment you've done along the way
Speaker 1: before you felt you could jump full time, and you
Speaker 1: have jump full time to more than one project. You
Speaker 1: didn't just go full time in house to one business.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: I just think people have this idea of what it
Speaker 1: needs to look like, and everyone composes it in different
Speaker 1: ways over really long time frames. It's not like a
Speaker 1: straightforward jump. Everyone feels a bit lost. Just start putting
Speaker 1: slow pieces together, and I don't think that. Like one
Speaker 1: of the questions is when did you know you had
Speaker 1: a passion elsewhere? And was there a specific point you
Speaker 1: knew you were ready to leave. I think it's like
Speaker 1: you said, it was easy for you to do because
Speaker 1: you were passionate, not because you were trying to leave
Speaker 1: your job, and the leaving bit only came when suddenly
Speaker 1: they were both viable. But you just kept doing it
Speaker 1: before you even knew that was the goal, because you
Speaker 1: were just enjoying what you were doing along the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So That leads to another question, which I think is
Speaker 1: probably one of the most valuable questions someone could ask you,
Speaker 1: in particular at this junction, is about whether or not
Speaker 1: you consciously do things to progress yourself. So this applies
Speaker 1: both in the job that you are now welcome back
Speaker 1: at anytime you left on excellent terms, and now also
Speaker 1: in business, in getting new clients with only word of mouth,
Speaker 1: in having great relationships with businesses for many many years,
Speaker 1: Like you left and the CEO of the Royal Melburn
Speaker 1: Hospitals sent you a good message like as a you
Speaker 1: know junior. Still, so do you find that you just
Speaker 1: get there through charisma? Like do you decide I Am
Speaker 1: going to climb this ladder and I'm going to get
Speaker 1: this opportunity because I think people genuinely don't know how
Speaker 1: you do that? How do you build your reputation? How
Speaker 1: do you getting people's good books and leave doors open
Speaker 1: for yourself?
Speaker 2: The CEO thing, I have to clarify. The CEO thing
Speaker 2: happened because one of my best mates laws who works
Speaker 2: with me as well, is like we are just so
Speaker 2: extra with the things that we do for each other
Speaker 2: that she was like she wouldn't be you know, that
Speaker 2: excited to get like the director of Allied Health because
Speaker 2: she already knows her and like they you know, they
Speaker 2: have a really strong relationship. How can I like make
Speaker 2: this like something that can properly surprise her with because
Speaker 2: we've just done so much for each other before. And
Speaker 2: so she literally emailed the CEO. It was like Hi,
Speaker 2: like not thinking we get anything out of it, She said, Hi,
Speaker 2: you know, can you just quickly just say one thing,
Speaker 2: like just like ten second things, thank you for your service?
Speaker 2: And she came back with this whole minute video that
Speaker 2: even Laws was like what theck and like she was
Speaker 2: in the stoic. So I didn't go obviously chasing that.
Speaker 2: Laws went chasing that as a way to like take
Speaker 2: the piece but also just feel like the things that
Speaker 2: we do to each other. It was actually one of
Speaker 2: the most beautiful things ever. Actually it was very very nice.
Speaker 2: But there's a video of me reacting to it, and
Speaker 2: I was just shook to the core. So definitely not
Speaker 2: a conscious thing of on my behalf. But in terms
Speaker 2: of do I consciously do things to progress my career,
Speaker 2: I think the large part of their answer is actually know,
Speaker 2: like I don't feel like I'm actively going out there
Speaker 2: to do that. Some opportunities that I say yes to, Yes,
Speaker 2: like if I see there's potential in that, I say yes.
Speaker 2: But in terms of like the actions that I do,
Speaker 2: Like if I reflected my time at the hospital, my
Speaker 2: whole thing, Like even when I was in YAR twelve,
Speaker 2: I was like, I hate doing things for the sake
Speaker 2: of putting on your resume, Like that's doing things for
Speaker 2: the sake like you know, like when you're in union,
Speaker 2: everyone's like head of this student union group and head
Speaker 2: of the physiotherapy student board and whatever. I was like,
Speaker 2: if you're passionate about that, go for it. But if
Speaker 2: you're doing it just put your resume. Is it really
Speaker 2: worth your time? There's so many other things that you
Speaker 2: can do that you or like become better at that
Speaker 2: could actually make you a much more employable person. So
Speaker 2: I think my motto has always been like, do the
Speaker 2: best job that I can do, and then if they
Speaker 2: want to keep me through that, they keep me. And
Speaker 2: I kind of would I feel like I have a
Speaker 2: unique enough skill set to make myself stand out. And
Speaker 2: I think that's always worked to my favorite and in
Speaker 2: that way, people I guess that want to see that
Speaker 2: can see that and then see where I can support
Speaker 2: the place and see the potential in me. So my
Speaker 2: thing is like less consciously choosing particular rotations or whatever
Speaker 2: it is for progression of career, but being like choosing
Speaker 2: things that I really love and then doing it's so
Speaker 2: freaking good at it. Yeah that people are like, we
Speaker 2: need her, Like it's just like but it's just if
Speaker 2: you think about it, it's kind of textbook stuff. But
Speaker 2: it's like Year twelve advice and people like choose subjects
Speaker 2: that you love because you do really well with them.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I choose opportunities or if I had
Speaker 2: a choice, I put things that I really know they'll
Speaker 2: love that I know that I'll be good in. And
Speaker 2: that's how I guess. I guess it is a conscious thing.
Speaker 2: But it's not like a matter of like putting my
Speaker 2: name up for all these leadership roles to progress my career,
Speaker 2: because I would find that exhausting, particularly if I didn't
Speaker 2: like it I was doing it for the job, I
Speaker 2: would be like, it's waste my time and I want
Speaker 2: to be doing things that are better. So I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: if you play to your strengths, know your strengths, choose
Speaker 2: things based on those things, do a really really good
Speaker 2: job at them, like in a way that's unique. So
Speaker 2: my unique selling point is always I think it's my efficiency. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like my time management and my efficiency, which is really
Speaker 2: obvious when you're in a big workplace, like people they
Speaker 2: just get shit done. And when people can see that
Speaker 2: and appreciate that, they kind of want to hold onto that.
Speaker 1: So sounds definitely holding on to you.
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, it's not and I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that everything is landing in my lap. Like, yes,
Speaker 2: definitely opportunities Like I chose Royal Melbourne knowing it was
Speaker 2: a massive trauma hospital and knowing that if I had
Speaker 2: the skill set so like to be at the Royal Melbourne,
Speaker 2: I could probably easily get a job in many other places.
Speaker 2: So I guess it's a mix of yes and no.
Speaker 2: But yes, you're right a lot of it. Does something
Speaker 2: come from charisma? I'm hilarious, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So funny. And just to quickly round off this section,
Speaker 1: back to Katie's question about like revelations since seizing your
Speaker 1: yea and then also tying in with someone else's question
Speaker 1: about the magic that you're brewing now that you are
Speaker 1: done with being shackled by normal society. Now that you've
Speaker 1: actually made the leap, is it what you expected? Like?
Speaker 1: Did it do the things? You've also been able to
Speaker 1: fit in a trip you've started having like your weeks
Speaker 1: back in terms of you know, you've finished up, You've
Speaker 1: had a little bit of time to see what your
Speaker 1: life is like now, Like is it what you thought?
Speaker 1: Is it better than you thought? Has it done for
Speaker 1: your brain and your soul what you thought it would
Speaker 1: so far?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like exactly what I thought. But then again
Speaker 2: I wrote it to be that way. Yeah, that's true,
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't necessarily be surprised by the way that
Speaker 2: I structured it because I structured it that way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like I went out of this being like, I am
Speaker 2: going to only work this many days for this company,
Speaker 2: and then have it this many days for this company.
Speaker 2: I had already worked with them, so you've going to
Speaker 2: it was going to entail. It has been the best time,
Speaker 2: Like such a great time. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: the downside, which I always knew was going to be
Speaker 2: a downside, was that you don't really get to switch off.
Speaker 2: That's always the that's the trade off. But I knew that.
Speaker 2: I feel like I actually was listened to a podcast
Speaker 2: or something the other day where I think the CEO
Speaker 2: of Notion was talking about if you're going to tell
Speaker 2: someone bad news, you start the conversation with, hey, this
Speaker 2: conversation is going to be difficult, because oh my god,
Speaker 2: that's so clever, because they say that the migdala only
Speaker 2: becomes anxious, scared, fearful when it's doesn't know what it
Speaker 2: is it's expecting. So if you tell them that it's
Speaker 2: what you're expecting, it's becomes a much easier conversation to have,
Speaker 2: as opposed to being like, Hi, happy, happy, happy happy, Okay,
Speaker 2: well we're letting you off. That's like a big shock
Speaker 2: to the system. Where As if you go in being like, hey,
Speaker 2: just let you know it's going to be a difficult
Speaker 2: conversation from the start, the rest of it comes easy.
Speaker 2: So I kind of set that realistic expectation for myself
Speaker 2: from the start, knowing there was going to be pros
Speaker 2: and cons about it all, and I wrote all that out.
Speaker 2: So the pros are amazing, Like, I traveled all around
Speaker 2: Europe and worked and traveled and it was amazing. It
Speaker 2: was so great. It was so so awesome, and being
Speaker 2: clients that have already worked with they know me, so
Speaker 2: I didn't have to like prove myself for anything. My
Speaker 2: only thing has Like I said before, I just try
Speaker 2: to do the best job that I can. And then
Speaker 2: my day structures are incredible. Are actually in fashion lunch,
Speaker 2: I wake up whatever time I want to wake up,
Speaker 2: and then I walked to my nearest cafe and then
Speaker 2: I do hours of work because I'm really productive in
Speaker 2: that way. And then I go home and then normally
Speaker 2: make breakfast or lunch, and then I clean or whatever.
Speaker 2: I go to the gym or go for a walk.
Speaker 2: I'll go do some error. Yeah, I'll do my beauty channel,
Speaker 2: I'll do my makeup, you know, I go just make
Speaker 2: sure my hair implants are on.
Speaker 1: Sketch like I help me put my teeth in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I do a little bit more work
Speaker 2: if I want to. And then I pretty much like
Speaker 2: the minute people finish work, I'm like bordering with them,
Speaker 2: going to dinner with them, picking the football with them.
Speaker 2: And then if I have a night meeting, I have
Speaker 2: a night meeting and then I the next day is
Speaker 2: the same thing. So it's just and the beauty of
Speaker 2: the job is that I get paid full time. So
Speaker 2: the twelve month contract, I get paid full time to
Speaker 2: work around about four days. But the four days is
Speaker 2: essentially however, I want to structure that so long as
Speaker 2: I get the job done. So I want to work
Speaker 2: really really fast or really really long day. That'll work
Speaker 2: a really really long day and just get all done.
Speaker 2: If I want to like be a bit of bimbo
Speaker 2: and like fluff around, then I just work seven half
Speaker 2: days or whatever it is. So my time is like
Speaker 2: and I if I want to go to Ocean Grove
Speaker 2: that week, and I go to Ocean Grove and I
Speaker 2: just type in the back of the car or whatever
Speaker 2: it is. I can genuinely be anywhere, like I can
Speaker 2: have the company is so great. I have meetings in transit,
Speaker 2: I have meetings on the side of the road if
Speaker 2: I'm like outside.
Speaker 1: Of the dinner and I'm like, you're busting. You need
Speaker 1: to take it all the way home.
Speaker 2: Literally, So like it's so awesome and that's like my
Speaker 2: main income. And then I work one day with Ceas,
Speaker 2: and then I work like a half day with Friendo,
Speaker 2: which is the health tech company in the UK, and
Speaker 2: then all of them are very different, like Friendo's very
Speaker 2: like more like product growth marketing. Bloom is more of
Speaker 2: like a leadership like social marketing manager. And then with you,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a lot of fun things like podcasting, branding,
Speaker 2: random stuff. So yeah, that's currently what's brewing, and then
Speaker 2: future brewing is I guess I don't like to look
Speaker 2: in the future because I have no idea where my
Speaker 2: life's going to go. I kind of just live for
Speaker 2: what I have right now.
Speaker 1: Live in the moment. Okay, well that's taken us to
Speaker 1: an hour alroad, Yeah, so sorry, no, bim. I am
Speaker 1: so excited for you because now I have you back.
Speaker 1: You've made such a big jump. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see what Twowey and three brings you and sees and
Speaker 1: everything else that you're doing. And I feel like this
Speaker 1: is the essence of this show. I'm so glad. There
Speaker 1: were so many questions. This has literally taken us an hour.
Speaker 1: So by the way, everyone, as I predicted at the beginning,
Speaker 1: this is now going to be a two part of
Speaker 1: This is no longer the last episode of the year
Speaker 1: because we have so many topics left. But the fact
Speaker 1: that most of the questions submitted or about the path ya,
Speaker 1: which is what the show is about. Makes me so happy. Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel like anyone listening could be you know U
Speaker 1: seven years ago, five years ago, four years ago, whatever,
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 2: I just don't believe how many people care. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's nice.
Speaker 1: It's so nice, and it's a huge jump you just made.
Speaker 2: It is it is a big jump, and I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm still coming to terms with it all. But
Speaker 2: it's been really fun. So Part two sounds good. Part
Speaker 2: tiam is a lot more like relationship.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the joys that guys, As we mentioned, there
Speaker 1: is a whole section on family and your Asian heritage
Speaker 1: and the prestige. We will come, we'll circle back. We'll
Speaker 1: circle back, guys to the question of prestige and expectations.
Speaker 1: And you know that one of our favorite topics here
Speaker 1: is like the definitions of success and how you have
Speaker 1: to pitch your new career to your family and the
Speaker 1: fact that you still haven't told them, which I did
Speaker 1: not know. But also about like the expectations on timelines
Speaker 1: in life, like getting married and settling down and having kids.
Speaker 1: Someone asked who your favorite cousin is and why I'm
Speaker 1: guessing was one of your cousins, even the pressure about
Speaker 1: you moving out and carry oak abilities. But most importantly
Speaker 1: the section that is to come is relationship, starting with
Speaker 1: how many exister zanchav like who doesn't want to know
Speaker 1: that everyone? And then a few questions snuck in there
Speaker 1: for me as well, which a good one reflect people
Speaker 1: are like curious about Nick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you for curious?
Speaker 1: Cue for curious mystery man Ali, So guys, you old? Are?
Speaker 1: I go to Marti Gary a big ally and I
Speaker 1: have somehow managed to get every letter in l G B,
Speaker 1: t Q A plus wrong at various times in the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Fully thought we did not Actually
Speaker 1: who is for curious?
Speaker 2: For our lives?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm the worst. So we have relationship
Speaker 1: to go. We have some cycling questions, funny cleat fail, story.
Speaker 2: Travel, travel or life and mindset and mindset? What backpack
Speaker 2: you use specifically? There's some very practical conversation questions. There's
Speaker 2: also which I think this is very interesting, how do
Speaker 2: you work on your financials buying a house at this
Speaker 2: age people don't.
Speaker 1: Talk about That's true, It's true. So part two we
Speaker 1: now have to book another day. I thought, I was
Speaker 1: finished working for the Angelina You are to Part two
Speaker 1: will be coming into your ears. I think what we'll
Speaker 1: do is this is a pre Christmas episode. We'll let
Speaker 1: you guys have Christmas, and then we'll drop some juicy
Speaker 1: follow in your pre New Year, because you know, New Year,
Speaker 1: New Ange, you talk about that stuff before the year
Speaker 1: is up.
Speaker 2: Wait.
Speaker 1: Thank you for this episode. This was incredibly inspiring. I
Speaker 1: hope you guys found inspiring as well. Meanwhile, if you
Speaker 1: have any other questions for aship, we now have time.
Speaker 1: Just admit.
Speaker 2: I guess talking about my dating life.
Speaker 1: I really do. The whole next episode is going to
Speaker 1: be about your dating life, and I can't wait because
Speaker 1: it's exciting, it's juicy, there's a lot, there's a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about. I'm really glad how out. I'll see
Speaker 1: you guys in a week and in the meantime, Happy holidays.
Speaker 1: You're it, it's holidays. Sorry, it's a native yay when
Speaker 1: you don't get the branding. I hope you have an
Speaker 1: amazing festive season and we'll catch you again before twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two is out.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,