1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:16,994 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast whoever said orange is 2 00:00:16,994 --> 00:00:17,514 Speaker 1: the New Pink? 3 00:00:17,634 --> 00:00:21,314 Speaker 2: With seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 4 00:00:21,553 --> 00:00:23,354 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. 5 00:00:23,394 --> 00:00:24,634 Speaker 3: You live for fashion. 6 00:00:25,714 --> 00:00:28,074 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Air, the podcast that 7 00:00:28,154 --> 00:00:31,194 Speaker 1: solves sashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Chelsea 8 00:00:31,234 --> 00:00:33,634 Speaker 1: Kway and each week we talk about all things fashion 9 00:00:33,714 --> 00:00:35,553 Speaker 1: to help you figure out how to get more out 10 00:00:35,554 --> 00:00:37,954 Speaker 1: of the clothes you already own. This week, we're going 11 00:00:38,034 --> 00:00:41,314 Speaker 1: to be talking to Jessica Lucy, who is a curve model, 12 00:00:41,394 --> 00:00:44,994 Speaker 1: content creator and she also works for an Australian fashion label. 13 00:00:45,354 --> 00:00:47,754 Speaker 1: She's worked in and out of different creative industries throughout 14 00:00:47,754 --> 00:00:50,674 Speaker 1: her career and is a real fashion lover. We're into 15 00:00:50,674 --> 00:00:52,994 Speaker 1: the warmer months, so today we're going to be unpacking 16 00:00:53,074 --> 00:00:57,194 Speaker 1: all things heat proof fashion, from what fabrics and silhouettes 17 00:00:57,234 --> 00:00:59,673 Speaker 1: should be wearing to all the brands you need to 18 00:00:59,674 --> 00:01:01,714 Speaker 1: be looking out for this summer. It was a really 19 00:01:01,794 --> 00:01:04,874 Speaker 1: fun episode. We talked about all things from footwear to 20 00:01:05,074 --> 00:01:07,714 Speaker 1: hats to boob sweat. It was a lot of fun. 21 00:01:07,754 --> 00:01:09,874 Speaker 1: We got a lot of styling tips, so let's get 22 00:01:09,874 --> 00:01:13,794 Speaker 1: into it. Jessica, Welcome, to the Nothing to Wear Pod. 23 00:01:13,954 --> 00:01:15,474 Speaker 2: Hello, We're very. 24 00:01:15,314 --> 00:01:17,794 Speaker 1: Excited to have you here today. But before we jump 25 00:01:17,834 --> 00:01:20,194 Speaker 1: into the topic we're here to talk about. There's two 26 00:01:20,314 --> 00:01:22,874 Speaker 1: questions that I love to ask all new guests to 27 00:01:22,954 --> 00:01:26,434 Speaker 1: the pod. The first one is can you describe your 28 00:01:26,474 --> 00:01:27,794 Speaker 1: style in three words? 29 00:01:27,874 --> 00:01:30,434 Speaker 4: It's a hard ask, but I'm actually so excited for 30 00:01:30,514 --> 00:01:32,754 Speaker 4: this question, and I like, I had to really think 31 00:01:32,754 --> 00:01:36,714 Speaker 4: about it because it's very interesting. So I thought about it, 32 00:01:36,754 --> 00:01:42,154 Speaker 4: sat with it, and I would describe my style as fluid, elevated, 33 00:01:42,674 --> 00:01:43,514 Speaker 4: and evolving. 34 00:01:43,674 --> 00:01:46,274 Speaker 3: I love that evolving is such a good word. 35 00:01:46,434 --> 00:01:49,354 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel evolving because I'm always, like I feel, 36 00:01:49,434 --> 00:01:50,394 Speaker 4: I'm very classic. 37 00:01:50,394 --> 00:01:52,394 Speaker 2: I like to dress very classic, but I'd like to. 38 00:01:52,354 --> 00:01:55,434 Speaker 4: Dip my toes in trends as well, so and I think, like, 39 00:01:55,674 --> 00:01:59,594 Speaker 4: especially being plus sized, I like to experiment as well 40 00:01:59,834 --> 00:02:01,954 Speaker 4: in those sort of trends, and I feel like that's 41 00:02:01,994 --> 00:02:04,194 Speaker 4: why it's always evolving as well evolving. 42 00:02:04,234 --> 00:02:06,554 Speaker 1: I love that what items make up ten percent of 43 00:02:06,554 --> 00:02:09,834 Speaker 1: your wardrobe that you wear ninety percent of the time. 44 00:02:11,434 --> 00:02:15,073 Speaker 4: I think for me it is a basic cotton tea 45 00:02:15,314 --> 00:02:16,274 Speaker 4: like me too. 46 00:02:16,474 --> 00:02:18,114 Speaker 2: I'm really wearing one today. 47 00:02:18,274 --> 00:02:20,474 Speaker 4: I think for me, I like to sort of style 48 00:02:20,514 --> 00:02:23,114 Speaker 4: them back with like the more elevated pieces that I 49 00:02:23,114 --> 00:02:25,194 Speaker 4: have in my wardrobe. So like, you know, I could 50 00:02:25,234 --> 00:02:28,154 Speaker 4: wear some sort of like suited pants or like today, 51 00:02:28,194 --> 00:02:31,274 Speaker 4: like I'm wearing like a satin bias cut skirt, and 52 00:02:31,314 --> 00:02:33,594 Speaker 4: I think it's really fun to sort of layer those 53 00:02:33,634 --> 00:02:36,474 Speaker 4: pieces with those items just to sort of elevate them 54 00:02:36,474 --> 00:02:39,233 Speaker 4: abe more. But it's like comfy because I always wear 55 00:02:39,274 --> 00:02:40,954 Speaker 4: I wear them to the like cotton shirts, to the 56 00:02:41,074 --> 00:02:43,874 Speaker 4: gym everywhere else as well, So it's like a staple 57 00:02:43,914 --> 00:02:46,314 Speaker 4: that I wear in so many different ways in my wardrobe. 58 00:02:46,394 --> 00:02:48,274 Speaker 1: Yeah, a good quality tea is just one of those 59 00:02:48,314 --> 00:02:50,674 Speaker 1: like versatile pieces and you can throw on for really 60 00:02:50,714 --> 00:02:53,434 Speaker 1: any occasion. I love the exactly what you were saying, 61 00:02:53,674 --> 00:02:56,633 Speaker 1: like dressing down dressier pieces. So I love even like 62 00:02:56,674 --> 00:02:59,434 Speaker 1: an embellish skirt, throw on a T shirt and immediately 63 00:02:59,434 --> 00:02:59,954 Speaker 1: it's kind. 64 00:02:59,794 --> 00:03:01,794 Speaker 3: Of wearable for every day. Love that. 65 00:03:01,994 --> 00:03:05,234 Speaker 1: Okay, So before we jump into talking about all things 66 00:03:05,234 --> 00:03:07,874 Speaker 1: sort of summer fashion, I wanted to get a little 67 00:03:07,874 --> 00:03:11,234 Speaker 1: bit of insight into you and your career. So first 68 00:03:11,314 --> 00:03:13,714 Speaker 1: let's get back to the beginning. So you've done a 69 00:03:13,754 --> 00:03:16,274 Speaker 1: lot of modeling and content creation. How did this sort 70 00:03:16,314 --> 00:03:17,194 Speaker 1: of all start for you. 71 00:03:18,114 --> 00:03:21,794 Speaker 2: Well, it kind of like had this like slow evolution 72 00:03:22,074 --> 00:03:22,554 Speaker 2: in a way. 73 00:03:22,714 --> 00:03:27,394 Speaker 4: So I was working for a fashion retailer in a 74 00:03:27,434 --> 00:03:31,594 Speaker 4: retail store for many years, and I always loved fashion 75 00:03:32,074 --> 00:03:34,434 Speaker 4: and always had a passion for it. And while working 76 00:03:34,514 --> 00:03:38,354 Speaker 4: in that retail store, there was a modeling competition. It 77 00:03:38,434 --> 00:03:41,634 Speaker 4: was called the United Curves Model Search, and so I 78 00:03:41,754 --> 00:03:44,314 Speaker 4: entered that modeling competition and I got in the top 79 00:03:44,354 --> 00:03:45,074 Speaker 4: ten and I. 80 00:03:45,034 --> 00:03:45,994 Speaker 2: Just thought that was wild. 81 00:03:45,994 --> 00:03:49,514 Speaker 4: So that was Australia wide and I thought, oh, my goodness, 82 00:03:49,594 --> 00:03:52,594 Speaker 4: is this happening. And that sort of is what escalated 83 00:03:52,634 --> 00:03:56,794 Speaker 4: my career into modeling. I then started creating content on 84 00:03:56,834 --> 00:03:59,754 Speaker 4: social media, sharing my outfits. It became a bit of 85 00:03:59,794 --> 00:04:01,634 Speaker 4: a passion of mine because it was a bit of 86 00:04:01,674 --> 00:04:03,554 Speaker 4: a pain point as well, Like I was like, yeah, 87 00:04:03,594 --> 00:04:05,074 Speaker 4: I want to wear cool clothes and I want to 88 00:04:05,074 --> 00:04:08,674 Speaker 4: see people like me represented in the media things like that. 89 00:04:08,714 --> 00:04:11,634 Speaker 4: So it became a passion of mine to start sharing 90 00:04:12,234 --> 00:04:17,394 Speaker 4: my I guess fashion inspiration. So then content creation then 91 00:04:17,514 --> 00:04:20,474 Speaker 4: naturally led into me being signed with an agency. So 92 00:04:20,553 --> 00:04:23,753 Speaker 4: then I started modeling more professionally and that sort of 93 00:04:23,873 --> 00:04:28,274 Speaker 4: escalated there and then naturally, just being in that space 94 00:04:28,354 --> 00:04:31,953 Speaker 4: I had gained like a lot of connections. I was 95 00:04:31,993 --> 00:04:35,274 Speaker 4: a part of a Facebook group called the Founding fifty, 96 00:04:35,953 --> 00:04:38,874 Speaker 4: which is now the career path I've gone for. I'm 97 00:04:38,873 --> 00:04:42,473 Speaker 4: now working for a clothing label called de Gale and 98 00:04:42,513 --> 00:04:45,113 Speaker 4: so their size is fourteen to twenty four and so 99 00:04:45,513 --> 00:04:48,553 Speaker 4: now I work for a clothing brand, running their social media, 100 00:04:48,594 --> 00:04:52,193 Speaker 4: doing their content creation and influencer partnership. So it's a 101 00:04:52,193 --> 00:04:55,154 Speaker 4: really exciting space to be in. So it kind of 102 00:04:55,193 --> 00:04:58,353 Speaker 4: like marries up with everything I do in I guess 103 00:04:58,474 --> 00:05:00,234 Speaker 4: the modeling and fashion. 104 00:04:59,873 --> 00:05:01,474 Speaker 3: World as yeah, I love that. 105 00:05:01,873 --> 00:05:03,954 Speaker 1: And when it comes to fashion, obviously you're in the 106 00:05:03,993 --> 00:05:06,234 Speaker 1: fashion industry, you'll work in fashion, You're always kind of 107 00:05:06,274 --> 00:05:09,434 Speaker 1: around it. What is it in particular that inspires you. 108 00:05:10,474 --> 00:05:12,954 Speaker 4: I just think I want to break the ceiling. I 109 00:05:12,993 --> 00:05:15,513 Speaker 4: just want to keep breaking that ceiling that I feel 110 00:05:15,553 --> 00:05:19,234 Speaker 4: like for so many years, there's like this misconception that 111 00:05:19,674 --> 00:05:22,833 Speaker 4: people who are above a size fourteen don't want to 112 00:05:22,873 --> 00:05:25,834 Speaker 4: participate in trends or don't want, you know, to wear 113 00:05:25,834 --> 00:05:28,873 Speaker 4: what everybody else is wearing. So I think that's where 114 00:05:28,914 --> 00:05:31,514 Speaker 4: my main drive is is like no, I just really 115 00:05:31,513 --> 00:05:33,474 Speaker 4: want to sort of keep challenging that barrier. 116 00:05:33,714 --> 00:05:36,553 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you talked a little bit about there being 117 00:05:36,594 --> 00:05:39,314 Speaker 1: gaps in terms of your experience of fashion prior to 118 00:05:39,474 --> 00:05:40,873 Speaker 1: kind of entering the industry. 119 00:05:41,234 --> 00:05:42,634 Speaker 3: What have sort of been. 120 00:05:42,834 --> 00:05:46,073 Speaker 1: The highs and the lows of being in the Australian 121 00:05:46,073 --> 00:05:49,033 Speaker 1: fashion industry from your experience, I think. 122 00:05:48,834 --> 00:05:52,633 Speaker 4: The highs have definitely been that there has been such 123 00:05:52,674 --> 00:05:56,273 Speaker 4: a huge progress, Like there has been massive progress in 124 00:05:56,313 --> 00:05:58,913 Speaker 4: the space, and you do see a lot of brands 125 00:05:58,993 --> 00:06:03,393 Speaker 4: extending their sizes, which is really exciting to see. But 126 00:06:03,633 --> 00:06:07,073 Speaker 4: in that same breath, when those brands do extend their sizes, 127 00:06:07,234 --> 00:06:09,873 Speaker 4: they get backlash like it's not like it's not good enough. 128 00:06:09,914 --> 00:06:13,594 Speaker 4: But I think we should keep celebrating the progress. And 129 00:06:13,633 --> 00:06:15,873 Speaker 4: I think that's like where that high and low comes in, 130 00:06:15,914 --> 00:06:18,833 Speaker 4: as you can see that progress happening. Yeah, like is 131 00:06:18,834 --> 00:06:21,873 Speaker 4: it happening fast enough? Like maybe not, but I think 132 00:06:21,914 --> 00:06:24,914 Speaker 4: we should like reflect and say it is happening. There 133 00:06:24,914 --> 00:06:28,354 Speaker 4: are people responding, there are brands that are trying to 134 00:06:29,034 --> 00:06:32,513 Speaker 4: do better. But I think as well, there's also the 135 00:06:32,553 --> 00:06:35,273 Speaker 4: lows is when when there is a plus sized brand 136 00:06:35,274 --> 00:06:38,154 Speaker 4: that sort of brings out I guess clothing that is, 137 00:06:39,594 --> 00:06:42,474 Speaker 4: I guess what women have been asking for. But then 138 00:06:42,513 --> 00:06:44,953 Speaker 4: there's that backlash like oh, the price points too high, 139 00:06:45,073 --> 00:06:48,314 Speaker 4: or there's always that sort of like you know, that 140 00:06:48,393 --> 00:06:50,474 Speaker 4: hard sort of ground where it's like, well, this is 141 00:06:50,513 --> 00:06:53,193 Speaker 4: what we were asking for. We've made a products like 142 00:06:53,234 --> 00:06:55,914 Speaker 4: you know, for me, I love brands like Dish, but 143 00:06:55,993 --> 00:06:59,354 Speaker 4: they they they do stop a size sixteen. So you know, 144 00:06:59,433 --> 00:07:02,354 Speaker 4: when a brand like like de Gale does release I 145 00:07:02,354 --> 00:07:05,274 Speaker 4: guess trends that are similar in line, there is that 146 00:07:05,313 --> 00:07:07,354 Speaker 4: sort of like that that would be something that would 147 00:07:07,393 --> 00:07:09,273 Speaker 4: be hard if there's that sort of backlash saying that 148 00:07:09,274 --> 00:07:12,393 Speaker 4: the price points unattainable or things like that. So I 149 00:07:12,393 --> 00:07:14,714 Speaker 4: think there's like so many highs like their progress, but 150 00:07:14,953 --> 00:07:16,834 Speaker 4: I guess that is that bit of the low sort 151 00:07:16,834 --> 00:07:17,953 Speaker 4: of trying to navigate that. 152 00:07:18,234 --> 00:07:19,234 Speaker 3: Yeah. 153 00:07:18,634 --> 00:07:21,674 Speaker 1: Well, I love that idea of like as you've put it, 154 00:07:21,794 --> 00:07:25,474 Speaker 1: sort of celebrating progress and not necessarily perfection and really 155 00:07:25,554 --> 00:07:28,994 Speaker 1: encouraging brands to continue to become more diverse. 156 00:07:29,034 --> 00:07:31,794 Speaker 3: And yeah, I love that idea. Today you're going to. 157 00:07:31,714 --> 00:07:33,874 Speaker 1: Be talking about we really want all your fashion tips 158 00:07:33,874 --> 00:07:35,994 Speaker 1: and all of your insights. We're going to be talking 159 00:07:35,994 --> 00:07:41,234 Speaker 1: about all things summer. It's February, it's very hot, and 160 00:07:41,314 --> 00:07:44,874 Speaker 1: I think it is a struggle to one stay on 161 00:07:44,953 --> 00:07:48,274 Speaker 1: top of what the summer trends are, but also dress 162 00:07:48,354 --> 00:07:50,794 Speaker 1: for hot weather. That is a challenge for a lot 163 00:07:50,794 --> 00:07:52,354 Speaker 1: of people. So we're going to be talking about all 164 00:07:52,393 --> 00:07:56,754 Speaker 1: things like picking the right fabrics, footwear, different silhouettes. So 165 00:07:56,914 --> 00:08:00,074 Speaker 1: first up, let's start with fabrics. Yeah, we're always told 166 00:08:00,114 --> 00:08:03,554 Speaker 1: to wear natural fibers like cotton and linen and things, 167 00:08:03,594 --> 00:08:06,874 Speaker 1: but sometimes I do feel like fabrics like cotton do 168 00:08:07,154 --> 00:08:09,394 Speaker 1: kind of hold on to sweat and cling a little bit. 169 00:08:09,754 --> 00:08:13,354 Speaker 1: I'm curious for you, what are your personal go to 170 00:08:13,514 --> 00:08:14,953 Speaker 1: fabrics for the summertime. 171 00:08:15,434 --> 00:08:19,754 Speaker 4: I think for me, linen and cotton divas, like that's 172 00:08:19,794 --> 00:08:23,354 Speaker 4: where I tend to sort of always gravitate towards. But 173 00:08:23,434 --> 00:08:26,234 Speaker 4: I think there's also you know, if you do want 174 00:08:26,274 --> 00:08:29,674 Speaker 4: to sort of wear fabrics that aren't as breathable, I 175 00:08:29,674 --> 00:08:31,953 Speaker 4: think that's that's what it ties back to, Mike. I 176 00:08:31,994 --> 00:08:34,314 Speaker 4: love to wear like a cotton tea, Like, if my 177 00:08:34,354 --> 00:08:38,434 Speaker 4: bottoms aren't necessarily a more breathable fabric, I sort of 178 00:08:38,474 --> 00:08:41,114 Speaker 4: like to sort of layer or pair it with an 179 00:08:41,114 --> 00:08:43,754 Speaker 4: item that might help have that sort of air flow 180 00:08:43,794 --> 00:08:47,714 Speaker 4: and breatheability. So I think I do sort of always 181 00:08:47,914 --> 00:08:50,914 Speaker 4: gravitate more towards the linens and cottons, and I think 182 00:08:50,994 --> 00:08:54,314 Speaker 4: like the weave and everything makes a huge difference to 183 00:08:54,554 --> 00:08:57,274 Speaker 4: in terms of like the airflow. So it just really 184 00:08:57,354 --> 00:08:59,834 Speaker 4: depends on how tight or how thick the fabric is too. 185 00:08:59,994 --> 00:09:03,354 Speaker 4: But I do feel cotton and linen are definitely your 186 00:09:03,394 --> 00:09:04,634 Speaker 4: go to for summer. 187 00:09:04,834 --> 00:09:06,954 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure to stay cool. 188 00:09:07,114 --> 00:09:09,954 Speaker 1: I would agree linen for me is like top choice 189 00:09:09,954 --> 00:09:11,954 Speaker 1: for summer. A random one for me also is like 190 00:09:12,194 --> 00:09:15,914 Speaker 1: this sounds crazy, but marino wool. I know that's usually 191 00:09:15,954 --> 00:09:19,714 Speaker 1: associated with winter time, but like a very thin sort 192 00:09:19,754 --> 00:09:21,554 Speaker 1: of marino wool, Well. 193 00:09:21,474 --> 00:09:24,034 Speaker 2: It's the same as like the wool blankets. They keep 194 00:09:24,074 --> 00:09:24,474 Speaker 2: you cool. 195 00:09:24,594 --> 00:09:28,714 Speaker 4: And yes, like I think there is definitely a space 196 00:09:29,074 --> 00:09:31,034 Speaker 4: for like knits and wool in summer. 197 00:09:31,194 --> 00:09:33,154 Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of worn correctly agreed. 198 00:09:33,194 --> 00:09:34,954 Speaker 1: I think it's one hundred cent of what you were saying. 199 00:09:34,994 --> 00:09:37,594 Speaker 1: It's to do with the thickness how it's woven. And 200 00:09:37,634 --> 00:09:39,914 Speaker 1: like reno wol's a great one because it, like thermoregulates, 201 00:09:39,954 --> 00:09:41,314 Speaker 1: so it keeps you cooler in the summer. 202 00:09:41,354 --> 00:09:43,234 Speaker 3: I think that's like something that sounds. 203 00:09:42,994 --> 00:09:46,914 Speaker 1: Ridiculousleft on, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent is left on. Yeah, Okay, 204 00:09:47,554 --> 00:09:51,434 Speaker 1: So we talked about fabrics. What about the cut of 205 00:09:51,474 --> 00:09:54,114 Speaker 1: an item when it comes to summer, we want airflow. 206 00:09:54,554 --> 00:09:58,394 Speaker 1: What are the specific silhouettes that you sort of gravitate towards. 207 00:09:58,634 --> 00:10:02,114 Speaker 4: What I'm seeing a lot lately is they're like the 208 00:10:02,154 --> 00:10:04,874 Speaker 4: long tunics yep, And they're not a lot of them 209 00:10:04,914 --> 00:10:08,034 Speaker 4: aren't necessarily cotton or linen. They are they might be 210 00:10:08,154 --> 00:10:12,114 Speaker 4: like a viscos or a polyesa, just say, but because 211 00:10:12,194 --> 00:10:14,754 Speaker 4: they have like a side split or they have something 212 00:10:15,074 --> 00:10:17,354 Speaker 4: in there that's going to sort of promote that airflow. 213 00:10:17,434 --> 00:10:20,274 Speaker 4: So I think when you're looking at certain cuts, you know, 214 00:10:20,314 --> 00:10:21,874 Speaker 4: if you have a T shirt that has the little 215 00:10:21,914 --> 00:10:23,994 Speaker 4: side splits, or you have sort of like a boat 216 00:10:24,034 --> 00:10:26,554 Speaker 4: neck tee that sort of shows a bit of shoulder, 217 00:10:26,594 --> 00:10:28,953 Speaker 4: like you know, heat rises. So I think like if 218 00:10:28,954 --> 00:10:31,034 Speaker 4: we're being mindful of how sort of like the air 219 00:10:31,154 --> 00:10:33,674 Speaker 4: is going to escape and like when it's sort of 220 00:10:34,034 --> 00:10:36,594 Speaker 4: coming out of our bodies, so to speak, I think 221 00:10:36,674 --> 00:10:39,834 Speaker 4: that's really important in terms of cuts of like different items. 222 00:10:39,914 --> 00:10:42,034 Speaker 4: So I think that's like where it ties back, Like 223 00:10:42,074 --> 00:10:43,754 Speaker 4: if I am going to wear a top like that 224 00:10:43,754 --> 00:10:46,394 Speaker 4: that is a bit longer, I do look for those 225 00:10:46,394 --> 00:10:48,874 Speaker 4: little splits and those little things that are going to 226 00:10:48,914 --> 00:10:52,754 Speaker 4: create a bit of movement, airflow, not too tight. 227 00:10:52,514 --> 00:10:53,074 Speaker 2: Things like that. 228 00:10:53,274 --> 00:10:54,074 Speaker 3: It's a great tip as all. 229 00:10:54,114 --> 00:10:55,954 Speaker 1: I think it doesn't have to be like obviously we 230 00:10:55,954 --> 00:10:58,394 Speaker 1: talk about fabric, we talk about cut. It could be 231 00:10:58,434 --> 00:11:00,914 Speaker 1: either all like you could have you know, if the 232 00:11:00,914 --> 00:11:03,834 Speaker 1: material is not necessarily one that's super breathable, the cut 233 00:11:03,914 --> 00:11:05,874 Speaker 1: and you're saying things like a slit or the way 234 00:11:05,874 --> 00:11:07,833 Speaker 1: that the material is cut make it huge difference in 235 00:11:07,914 --> 00:11:09,554 Speaker 1: terms of whether it's going to make you really hot 236 00:11:09,594 --> 00:11:10,114 Speaker 1: during the day. 237 00:11:10,234 --> 00:11:13,354 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like a line flowy dresses things like that. Yeah, 238 00:11:13,394 --> 00:11:14,754 Speaker 4: definitely things that I look out for. 239 00:11:14,914 --> 00:11:15,194 Speaker 2: Love that. 240 00:11:15,354 --> 00:11:18,074 Speaker 1: And are there any particular Aussie brands that you feel 241 00:11:18,074 --> 00:11:21,554 Speaker 1: like are really nailing the breathable, lightweight sort of styles 242 00:11:21,594 --> 00:11:22,874 Speaker 1: that we should be wearing during summer. 243 00:11:22,914 --> 00:11:25,994 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, there's a couple I think like for 244 00:11:26,074 --> 00:11:29,594 Speaker 4: me personally at the moment, I love I love brands 245 00:11:29,594 --> 00:11:33,754 Speaker 4: like Vagary the label. They do beautiful, flowy dresses, gorgeous 246 00:11:33,754 --> 00:11:35,954 Speaker 4: for summer. I do find that, Like I've got pieces 247 00:11:35,994 --> 00:11:38,154 Speaker 4: from them that just repeat every summer because they're. 248 00:11:37,954 --> 00:11:39,994 Speaker 2: Just a perfect throum on. Yeah. 249 00:11:40,034 --> 00:11:42,954 Speaker 4: Commonry also do a lot of like beautiful sort of 250 00:11:44,194 --> 00:11:46,874 Speaker 4: linens and stuff and cottons as well, like your poplin 251 00:11:47,434 --> 00:11:50,394 Speaker 4: sort of cotton teas, things like that. Other brands that 252 00:11:50,594 --> 00:11:53,434 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily shop at but I think are doing 253 00:11:53,514 --> 00:11:58,314 Speaker 4: really well are brands like Sneaky Link Verge Girl, seeing 254 00:11:58,354 --> 00:12:00,434 Speaker 4: them pop up everywhere and sort of seeing those sort 255 00:12:00,434 --> 00:12:03,554 Speaker 4: of like you know, cotton shirt trends over like you know, 256 00:12:03,994 --> 00:12:08,074 Speaker 4: a sequince skirt for exams ample, and I think, like 257 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:10,594 Speaker 4: that's a really cool way to sort of play with fashion. 258 00:12:10,634 --> 00:12:13,154 Speaker 4: But I think you could still be quite cool in 259 00:12:13,194 --> 00:12:16,274 Speaker 4: a skirt like that, So I think they're doing it 260 00:12:16,314 --> 00:12:17,314 Speaker 4: really well at the moment. 261 00:12:17,634 --> 00:12:21,234 Speaker 1: What are some really simple styling tips that you feel 262 00:12:21,234 --> 00:12:23,954 Speaker 1: like can really elevate an outfit during summer? 263 00:12:24,434 --> 00:12:29,074 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think it's cliche, but accessories. I think accessories like, 264 00:12:29,314 --> 00:12:34,434 Speaker 4: for example, I have this really plain linen dress. It's 265 00:12:34,474 --> 00:12:37,314 Speaker 4: just sort of like MAXI sort of dress, and it 266 00:12:37,354 --> 00:12:40,074 Speaker 4: does It's just plain white linen, and so to really 267 00:12:40,114 --> 00:12:43,754 Speaker 4: elevate it, like I'm loving the scarf trend, like rapping 268 00:12:43,834 --> 00:12:47,674 Speaker 4: a staff around the waist, or you know, the bangles, 269 00:12:47,874 --> 00:12:51,034 Speaker 4: big chunky bangles at the moment, chunky necklaces. I think 270 00:12:51,154 --> 00:12:53,154 Speaker 4: you know, your beaded necklaces. If you have these like 271 00:12:53,234 --> 00:12:57,274 Speaker 4: really interesting sort of elements to your outfit, I think, 272 00:12:57,554 --> 00:12:59,834 Speaker 4: you know, if you have a really plain outfit, that's 273 00:12:59,874 --> 00:13:02,514 Speaker 4: the way you can sort of really elevate a look. 274 00:13:02,834 --> 00:13:04,394 Speaker 1: I was going to say, the necklace you're wearing today, 275 00:13:04,434 --> 00:13:07,114 Speaker 1: it's like kind of two layers. 276 00:13:06,714 --> 00:13:08,434 Speaker 3: It's a statement necklace. I love it. 277 00:13:08,834 --> 00:13:10,154 Speaker 2: Pick this one up from Tacuba. 278 00:13:10,274 --> 00:13:13,074 Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, I was very nice. Just caught my eye 279 00:13:13,074 --> 00:13:14,834 Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, you're coming home with me. 280 00:13:14,954 --> 00:13:17,594 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so much so and 281 00:13:17,594 --> 00:13:20,714 Speaker 1: I agree. I think when it is summer and it's hot, 282 00:13:21,114 --> 00:13:24,394 Speaker 1: fuss free dressing is often the way that I personally go, 283 00:13:24,794 --> 00:13:27,634 Speaker 1: and so dressing in a way that's lightweight, but then 284 00:13:27,674 --> 00:13:30,394 Speaker 1: throwing on accessories is like the best way to still 285 00:13:30,394 --> 00:13:32,714 Speaker 1: feel like you're put together and still a fashion girl. 286 00:13:32,954 --> 00:13:33,714 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, same. 287 00:13:33,754 --> 00:13:36,914 Speaker 1: There's obviously trends that come and go. What is the 288 00:13:36,954 --> 00:13:39,994 Speaker 1: fashion trend this season that you're like most excited about 289 00:13:39,994 --> 00:13:42,114 Speaker 1: that gets you really excited that you're excited to be 290 00:13:42,114 --> 00:13:42,514 Speaker 1: a part of. 291 00:13:43,994 --> 00:13:49,074 Speaker 4: I'm actually obsessed with the sequence, like, which is a 292 00:13:49,154 --> 00:13:51,234 Speaker 4: little bit crazy for me because I am a little 293 00:13:51,234 --> 00:13:54,874 Speaker 4: bit more of your sort of classic minimalists at times. 294 00:13:55,314 --> 00:13:57,714 Speaker 4: But I'm seeing that, I'm like, that's something I can 295 00:13:57,834 --> 00:14:00,074 Speaker 4: sort of dip my toes in again. Like I think 296 00:14:00,074 --> 00:14:03,034 Speaker 4: that goes back to like my evolving fashion style where 297 00:14:03,034 --> 00:14:05,954 Speaker 4: I see that and because like today I'm wearing a 298 00:14:05,994 --> 00:14:09,274 Speaker 4: satin by Cuts with a tea. I see myself wearing 299 00:14:09,314 --> 00:14:11,514 Speaker 4: something like that because it's something that I'm already loving, 300 00:14:11,994 --> 00:14:14,834 Speaker 4: and I think sequence always come back, They're always having 301 00:14:14,834 --> 00:14:17,554 Speaker 4: a moment. So I'm very conscious of like not sort 302 00:14:17,554 --> 00:14:20,714 Speaker 4: of like jumping on a trend like just because and 303 00:14:20,834 --> 00:14:22,434 Speaker 4: so I really need to sit and think about how 304 00:14:22,474 --> 00:14:23,954 Speaker 4: I'm going to incorporate it into. 305 00:14:23,754 --> 00:14:26,914 Speaker 2: My into my wardrobe. Right, it does excite me. 306 00:14:26,954 --> 00:14:29,314 Speaker 4: It's something that I feel will sort of you know, 307 00:14:29,434 --> 00:14:31,114 Speaker 4: even like if you have it ears down to come 308 00:14:31,114 --> 00:14:33,034 Speaker 4: that could be the young people want to go to 309 00:14:33,074 --> 00:14:35,514 Speaker 4: a as a mermaid to address up party, something you 310 00:14:35,514 --> 00:14:38,114 Speaker 4: can rewear exactly. I think it's just one of those 311 00:14:38,194 --> 00:14:39,234 Speaker 4: items that I think are fun. 312 00:14:39,394 --> 00:14:41,514 Speaker 1: Is that your usual approach to sort of trends? Like 313 00:14:41,594 --> 00:14:43,594 Speaker 1: there are so many trends, micro trends that come up 314 00:14:43,634 --> 00:14:46,114 Speaker 1: every single year. Obviously we both work in fashion. What 315 00:14:46,234 --> 00:14:48,114 Speaker 1: is your sort of approach to like seeing a trend, 316 00:14:48,154 --> 00:14:49,994 Speaker 1: whether you invest in it, and are you someone who 317 00:14:50,034 --> 00:14:51,274 Speaker 1: generally buys into trends? 318 00:14:51,514 --> 00:14:54,754 Speaker 4: Yeah, I dip in and out. Like I think, there's 319 00:14:54,794 --> 00:14:57,834 Speaker 4: been times where I can't participate in a trend, which 320 00:14:57,874 --> 00:15:00,354 Speaker 4: is interesting because it's not I guess in my size 321 00:15:00,514 --> 00:15:03,394 Speaker 4: or like things like that, which is For example, the 322 00:15:03,434 --> 00:15:06,154 Speaker 4: scarf trend was one that I really wanted to be 323 00:15:06,194 --> 00:15:08,514 Speaker 4: a part of Restore. I went into I put a 324 00:15:08,554 --> 00:15:11,074 Speaker 4: scarf around my waist and it wasn't big enough. And 325 00:15:11,154 --> 00:15:13,954 Speaker 4: so I was actually sitting in the office a couple 326 00:15:13,954 --> 00:15:16,274 Speaker 4: of months ago and I turned to Jamie, our designer, 327 00:15:16,274 --> 00:15:17,874 Speaker 4: I went, Jamie, I need a scarf. 328 00:15:18,474 --> 00:15:20,034 Speaker 2: I need a scarf. I just want. 329 00:15:20,114 --> 00:15:23,034 Speaker 4: I really loved the sort of silhouette that it gave 330 00:15:23,394 --> 00:15:25,794 Speaker 4: and I really wanted to participate in that trend. And 331 00:15:25,834 --> 00:15:28,314 Speaker 4: in my head, a scarf is something that has multi 332 00:15:28,434 --> 00:15:31,034 Speaker 4: uses and it's something that I really wanted to incorporate 333 00:15:31,074 --> 00:15:32,034 Speaker 4: in my wardrobe. 334 00:15:32,194 --> 00:15:33,314 Speaker 2: So I turned to her. 335 00:15:33,234 --> 00:15:35,354 Speaker 4: And I said, please, can you please design a scarf 336 00:15:35,554 --> 00:15:36,914 Speaker 4: for us plus sized divas? 337 00:15:37,034 --> 00:15:38,074 Speaker 2: I think I need one? 338 00:15:38,394 --> 00:15:41,074 Speaker 4: And she did it, and so I'm so excited for that, 339 00:15:41,234 --> 00:15:44,394 Speaker 4: and I think it's a type of garment that anyone 340 00:15:44,434 --> 00:15:46,634 Speaker 4: could actually buy, because you know, I have a friend 341 00:15:46,634 --> 00:15:48,274 Speaker 4: that isn't plus size that she tried on it. 342 00:15:48,354 --> 00:15:50,434 Speaker 2: It looked beautiful as a little tie dress on her, 343 00:15:50,474 --> 00:15:51,794 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my goodness. 344 00:16:01,274 --> 00:16:04,794 Speaker 1: So when it comes to summer, we all know the 345 00:16:04,914 --> 00:16:06,194 Speaker 1: dreaded boob sweat. 346 00:16:06,554 --> 00:16:08,994 Speaker 3: It's an ever happens to us all. 347 00:16:09,474 --> 00:16:12,514 Speaker 1: Is there a specific bra or bra lette that is 348 00:16:12,674 --> 00:16:14,674 Speaker 1: breathable but supportive that you like? 349 00:16:15,514 --> 00:16:20,074 Speaker 4: Yeah, I really love Nala, So I know that they 350 00:16:20,314 --> 00:16:24,354 Speaker 4: use sort of like a like a bamboo type fabric, 351 00:16:24,594 --> 00:16:27,474 Speaker 4: and so do booty. Booty and Nala are problem I 352 00:16:27,594 --> 00:16:33,434 Speaker 4: go to for like breatheability, comfort, everything, So whether you prefer, 353 00:16:33,874 --> 00:16:37,194 Speaker 4: I guess, an underwire or not, they have like both 354 00:16:37,234 --> 00:16:39,754 Speaker 4: those options at Nila, which I love, but I feel 355 00:16:39,794 --> 00:16:42,874 Speaker 4: like it's very moisture wicking, those sorts of materials similar 356 00:16:42,874 --> 00:16:45,034 Speaker 4: to sort of active wear and things like that. So 357 00:16:45,674 --> 00:16:49,154 Speaker 4: they're definitely my go tos for for undergarments in summer, 358 00:16:49,594 --> 00:16:51,914 Speaker 4: just for that breatheability. I don't tend to really go 359 00:16:51,994 --> 00:16:54,794 Speaker 4: for any of like the lazy ones. I like to 360 00:16:54,794 --> 00:16:55,434 Speaker 4: go for comfort. 361 00:16:55,474 --> 00:16:57,834 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm the same. Comfort is like number one, 362 00:16:57,954 --> 00:17:01,034 Speaker 1: especially during summer. Yes, the bandu tops and things I 363 00:17:01,074 --> 00:17:04,914 Speaker 1: love too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean comfort. Yeah you're 364 00:17:04,914 --> 00:17:06,994 Speaker 1: saying it's very important to me too when it comes 365 00:17:07,033 --> 00:17:10,234 Speaker 1: to dressing in any sort of way. But even like footwear, 366 00:17:10,954 --> 00:17:14,034 Speaker 1: very very important to have a comfortable shoe. I feel 367 00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:16,154 Speaker 1: like in summer sometimes I love a sneak. I'm a 368 00:17:16,154 --> 00:17:18,513 Speaker 1: sneaker girl like through and through, but I find during 369 00:17:18,554 --> 00:17:21,754 Speaker 1: summer it can be a little warm and not necessarily 370 00:17:21,754 --> 00:17:22,554 Speaker 1: like my number one. 371 00:17:22,434 --> 00:17:23,314 Speaker 3: Shoe of choice. 372 00:17:23,394 --> 00:17:25,513 Speaker 1: What about for you, like, what are you loving this 373 00:17:25,634 --> 00:17:26,794 Speaker 1: time of year on your feet? 374 00:17:27,594 --> 00:17:29,874 Speaker 2: Can I just say I am so happy that thongs 375 00:17:29,914 --> 00:17:30,274 Speaker 2: are back? 376 00:17:31,314 --> 00:17:34,354 Speaker 1: Me too, Let's say it again, thongs. 377 00:17:33,994 --> 00:17:37,234 Speaker 4: Are back, songs are back, like, I'm into it, and 378 00:17:37,274 --> 00:17:38,754 Speaker 4: even the little kitten heels. 379 00:17:38,994 --> 00:17:42,154 Speaker 1: We're both wearing a pair of little kitten hill shades. 380 00:17:43,114 --> 00:17:43,674 Speaker 2: Obsessed. 381 00:17:45,114 --> 00:17:47,273 Speaker 4: I am not one to sort of like care that 382 00:17:47,354 --> 00:17:50,874 Speaker 4: my dogs are out in the office. Same I could 383 00:17:50,914 --> 00:17:52,554 Speaker 4: tell us I'm glad that I work in an office 384 00:17:52,554 --> 00:17:56,114 Speaker 4: space that isn't as corporate we can sort of have 385 00:17:56,194 --> 00:17:56,874 Speaker 4: fun with fashion. 386 00:17:56,874 --> 00:17:59,274 Speaker 2: But as soon as I saw like thong was coming. 387 00:17:59,074 --> 00:18:02,354 Speaker 4: Back, like your archies and all those really cool fun colors, 388 00:18:02,434 --> 00:18:05,594 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, that's my that's my jam. But 389 00:18:05,674 --> 00:18:08,194 Speaker 4: I think my old turn and it would probably I've 390 00:18:08,194 --> 00:18:11,474 Speaker 4: been loving like the mesh ballet flats as well, and 391 00:18:11,554 --> 00:18:13,474 Speaker 4: sort of like any of like those fishnets sort of 392 00:18:13,594 --> 00:18:15,994 Speaker 4: mules and things like that. Love so I think they're 393 00:18:15,994 --> 00:18:19,434 Speaker 4: really cool alternatives. But I think as well, like, yeah, 394 00:18:19,554 --> 00:18:21,594 Speaker 4: sort of soft leather slides, like if you're looking for 395 00:18:21,634 --> 00:18:25,114 Speaker 4: something more like for an all day where comfortable, like 396 00:18:25,274 --> 00:18:26,834 Speaker 4: I think like looking at like sort of like your 397 00:18:26,874 --> 00:18:29,914 Speaker 4: Birkenstocks and things like that, your Fishermen sandals that have 398 00:18:29,994 --> 00:18:34,513 Speaker 4: a bit more of that support. Yeah, Franky four a 399 00:18:34,554 --> 00:18:37,513 Speaker 4: really great brand call sort of comfortability in terms of 400 00:18:37,554 --> 00:18:41,114 Speaker 4: like sandals that look really elevated, So definitely might go 401 00:18:41,194 --> 00:18:41,554 Speaker 4: to there. 402 00:18:41,674 --> 00:18:43,354 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many good options that I love that, 403 00:18:43,434 --> 00:18:44,674 Speaker 1: but I love that we've aligned on. 404 00:18:44,634 --> 00:18:46,994 Speaker 3: It like a old sandal. 405 00:18:47,674 --> 00:18:54,594 Speaker 1: Love it. And Okay, we've talked about a bunch of things, fabrics, silhouettes, shoes. 406 00:18:54,914 --> 00:18:58,034 Speaker 1: When it comes to dresses, obviously a summer sort of staple. 407 00:18:58,154 --> 00:19:01,154 Speaker 1: Flowy dresses are really everywhere during the summer. What are 408 00:19:01,154 --> 00:19:03,474 Speaker 1: some of the brands that you're personally loving right now 409 00:19:03,514 --> 00:19:06,234 Speaker 1: that do like the flowy airy dress really well. 410 00:19:07,554 --> 00:19:11,114 Speaker 4: I have a dress from Fate the label that it's 411 00:19:11,474 --> 00:19:13,834 Speaker 4: a cotton rib at the top and it has like 412 00:19:13,874 --> 00:19:16,754 Speaker 4: that little V V line and then that real a 413 00:19:16,914 --> 00:19:17,513 Speaker 4: line skirt. 414 00:19:17,714 --> 00:19:18,354 Speaker 1: I love that. 415 00:19:18,354 --> 00:19:20,594 Speaker 4: That is probably one of my favorite dresses that I 416 00:19:20,634 --> 00:19:23,874 Speaker 4: have in my wardrobe because its same again, like can 417 00:19:23,914 --> 00:19:26,954 Speaker 4: pop it on. It's just effortless, and I think that's 418 00:19:26,994 --> 00:19:29,553 Speaker 4: probably like my if I could say, my number one 419 00:19:29,634 --> 00:19:32,313 Speaker 4: dress that I have on rotation all the time is 420 00:19:32,354 --> 00:19:33,834 Speaker 4: that one, because yeah, what. 421 00:19:33,874 --> 00:19:34,634 Speaker 3: Color did you say it was? 422 00:19:34,674 --> 00:19:36,314 Speaker 2: It? It's white. It's just plain white. 423 00:19:36,594 --> 00:19:38,793 Speaker 4: I'm not a big print girl, like I do have 424 00:19:38,834 --> 00:19:41,313 Speaker 4: a few different prints, but I'm very particular on my prints. 425 00:19:41,674 --> 00:19:43,714 Speaker 4: But you will see me wearing a lot of sort 426 00:19:43,754 --> 00:19:46,074 Speaker 4: of neutral colors. I'm not very neutral girly. 427 00:19:46,594 --> 00:19:49,114 Speaker 2: And then I find that I accessorize with my colors 428 00:19:49,194 --> 00:19:52,314 Speaker 2: and makes it like my bag and things like that. 429 00:19:52,514 --> 00:19:54,834 Speaker 2: I tend to be more printed or again like a 430 00:19:54,834 --> 00:19:55,714 Speaker 2: printed scarf for. 431 00:19:55,994 --> 00:19:56,754 Speaker 3: A little accent. 432 00:19:57,194 --> 00:20:00,194 Speaker 1: I love that. I mean I'm a neutral girlie as well. 433 00:20:00,434 --> 00:20:02,994 Speaker 1: And summer's usually a time that's often associated with like 434 00:20:03,194 --> 00:20:05,194 Speaker 1: right pops of color. Oh you can have a little 435 00:20:05,194 --> 00:20:07,834 Speaker 1: bit more fun. So like for the neutral girl us 436 00:20:07,914 --> 00:20:10,434 Speaker 1: out there, what is a way that you can kind 437 00:20:10,474 --> 00:20:12,874 Speaker 1: of incorporate And you talked a little about accessories. Yeah, 438 00:20:12,914 --> 00:20:15,714 Speaker 1: the best way to incorporate pops of color if that's 439 00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:17,634 Speaker 1: not usually sort of the palette that you go for. 440 00:20:18,234 --> 00:20:20,754 Speaker 4: I think definitely like keep in mind, like I think 441 00:20:20,834 --> 00:20:24,194 Speaker 4: keeping in mind sort of what your sort of favorite 442 00:20:24,194 --> 00:20:26,033 Speaker 4: color is in terms of like your tone, like what 443 00:20:26,074 --> 00:20:26,554 Speaker 4: you want to. 444 00:20:26,514 --> 00:20:29,513 Speaker 2: Wear, if you sort of like buy accessories in that color. 445 00:20:29,674 --> 00:20:31,634 Speaker 4: Like if I know at home, I have a lot 446 00:20:31,634 --> 00:20:34,793 Speaker 4: of I have some like yellow shoes for example. Like 447 00:20:34,834 --> 00:20:36,794 Speaker 4: if I see like a shirt that has like yellow 448 00:20:36,874 --> 00:20:38,714 Speaker 4: elements in it, I'll be like, Okay, that's going to 449 00:20:38,754 --> 00:20:42,234 Speaker 4: fit back with my white skirt or you know, I 450 00:20:42,634 --> 00:20:45,114 Speaker 4: like to sort of think about what I've already got 451 00:20:45,154 --> 00:20:46,914 Speaker 4: at home that has color in it, and if I 452 00:20:46,954 --> 00:20:48,634 Speaker 4: see something in that color, I'm like, that's going to 453 00:20:48,674 --> 00:20:51,594 Speaker 4: mix a match perfectly. Or colors that go together, like 454 00:20:51,634 --> 00:20:54,234 Speaker 4: I love pink and red together things like that. Yeah, 455 00:20:54,274 --> 00:20:58,074 Speaker 4: So I think just I'm not afraid, like if you're 456 00:20:58,074 --> 00:21:01,634 Speaker 4: a mutuale dresser, like having that little bit of dopamine 457 00:21:01,754 --> 00:21:04,354 Speaker 4: in your accessories and in those little elements. So if 458 00:21:04,354 --> 00:21:06,793 Speaker 4: you see like a pair of sunglasses that have like 459 00:21:07,274 --> 00:21:09,474 Speaker 4: red rim and things like that. I think that's how 460 00:21:09,514 --> 00:21:11,914 Speaker 4: you can sort of add in those sort of pops 461 00:21:11,914 --> 00:21:14,634 Speaker 4: of color and detail through like fun accessories. 462 00:21:14,954 --> 00:21:15,154 Speaker 3: Yeah. 463 00:21:15,154 --> 00:21:17,994 Speaker 1: I also love that tip, the idea of shopping colors 464 00:21:17,994 --> 00:21:20,954 Speaker 1: that you already like, because then I think oftentimes you 465 00:21:21,034 --> 00:21:23,594 Speaker 1: are if you are sort of chasing whatever color might 466 00:21:23,634 --> 00:21:26,194 Speaker 1: be in season right now or everyone else is wearing 467 00:21:26,314 --> 00:21:28,914 Speaker 1: the seasons do cycle through, And I think a really 468 00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:31,074 Speaker 1: great way to do it is buy colors that spark 469 00:21:31,154 --> 00:21:33,154 Speaker 1: joy for you personally, and that's something that you can 470 00:21:33,194 --> 00:21:34,394 Speaker 1: rewear for seasons to come. 471 00:21:34,514 --> 00:21:36,074 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree love that. 472 00:21:36,514 --> 00:21:38,674 Speaker 1: I mean talking of the color of the year or 473 00:21:38,754 --> 00:21:41,554 Speaker 1: color of the seasons, there's obviously a lot of talk 474 00:21:41,554 --> 00:21:43,994 Speaker 1: about what that is for summer in your opinion, like 475 00:21:44,074 --> 00:21:46,314 Speaker 1: what's the color of this summer or the color that 476 00:21:46,354 --> 00:21:48,434 Speaker 1: we're going to be seeing everywhere on everyone. 477 00:21:48,674 --> 00:21:53,514 Speaker 4: I think like your buttery yellow and your soft blue. Yes, 478 00:21:53,874 --> 00:21:56,754 Speaker 4: I think are going to be those colors, which excites 479 00:21:56,794 --> 00:21:58,514 Speaker 4: me as a neutral girl because I think they pair 480 00:21:58,634 --> 00:22:02,954 Speaker 4: so well with neutral colors. So even like you're soft 481 00:22:02,994 --> 00:22:05,754 Speaker 4: blue with brown, like for your choky you know your 482 00:22:05,754 --> 00:22:08,033 Speaker 4: girls who love that chocky brown color, I think blue 483 00:22:08,154 --> 00:22:10,954 Speaker 4: looks beautiful both yellow and brown, to be honest. So 484 00:22:11,514 --> 00:22:13,554 Speaker 4: I think that's definitely the color of the summer, and 485 00:22:13,594 --> 00:22:17,434 Speaker 4: I'm seeing that color sort of coming in everywhere at 486 00:22:17,434 --> 00:22:17,874 Speaker 4: the moment. 487 00:22:17,994 --> 00:22:19,234 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean blue. 488 00:22:19,274 --> 00:22:22,513 Speaker 1: I remember like spring summer twenty six, like all across 489 00:22:22,514 --> 00:22:25,674 Speaker 1: the runways there were so many blue accents and things 490 00:22:25,714 --> 00:22:27,314 Speaker 1: and the pairing of like brown and blue. 491 00:22:27,354 --> 00:22:28,714 Speaker 3: So I agree with you on that. I think that 492 00:22:28,754 --> 00:22:30,074 Speaker 3: color is going to be everywhere this summer. 493 00:22:30,194 --> 00:22:30,434 Speaker 2: Yeah. 494 00:22:30,474 --> 00:22:32,914 Speaker 1: And also like, yeah, yellow and like a buddy yellow 495 00:22:32,954 --> 00:22:36,553 Speaker 1: and a light blue kind of feel neutral adjacent what 496 00:22:36,594 --> 00:22:37,314 Speaker 1: you were saying. 497 00:22:37,154 --> 00:22:38,274 Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent. 498 00:22:38,314 --> 00:22:40,234 Speaker 1: They don't really feel like bright pops of colors to me, 499 00:22:40,274 --> 00:22:44,154 Speaker 1: and something that feel like really easily integratable into any 500 00:22:44,194 --> 00:22:44,994 Speaker 1: sort of wardrobe. 501 00:22:45,274 --> 00:22:47,674 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if you have like a chocolate brown bag 502 00:22:47,994 --> 00:22:50,914 Speaker 4: for example. I feel that's like another dark element to 503 00:22:50,914 --> 00:22:52,874 Speaker 4: add to sort of like the light that you're playing with. 504 00:22:52,994 --> 00:22:55,714 Speaker 4: I think, you know, sometimes black can be really harsh, 505 00:22:55,914 --> 00:22:59,394 Speaker 4: and so I think like those browns, browns still having 506 00:22:59,434 --> 00:23:00,594 Speaker 4: a moment as well this summer. 507 00:23:00,714 --> 00:23:01,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can, I can notice. 508 00:23:01,994 --> 00:23:04,513 Speaker 4: So I love that brown still incorporates and goes with 509 00:23:04,554 --> 00:23:05,154 Speaker 4: those colors. 510 00:23:05,354 --> 00:23:06,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. 511 00:23:07,514 --> 00:23:09,674 Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to talk a little bit about 512 00:23:09,754 --> 00:23:12,114 Speaker 1: your work at DeGale. We spoke about it a little 513 00:23:12,154 --> 00:23:15,474 Speaker 1: bit today, but obviously doing content and community management. 514 00:23:16,194 --> 00:23:16,874 Speaker 3: Talk to me a. 515 00:23:16,834 --> 00:23:19,033 Speaker 1: Little bit about the work that you do there and 516 00:23:19,074 --> 00:23:20,754 Speaker 1: also why it's so important to you. 517 00:23:21,394 --> 00:23:24,273 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that goes back to the founding fifty. I 518 00:23:24,314 --> 00:23:26,434 Speaker 4: was a part of that Facebook group and so a 519 00:23:26,474 --> 00:23:28,914 Speaker 4: little bit more about that is they got a bunch 520 00:23:28,994 --> 00:23:31,194 Speaker 4: of women together in this Facebook group before they even 521 00:23:31,274 --> 00:23:33,714 Speaker 4: launched the brand, and I was actually a part of 522 00:23:33,714 --> 00:23:37,354 Speaker 4: that group. They did like teams meetings where everyone gave feedback, 523 00:23:37,434 --> 00:23:39,474 Speaker 4: like so it was women who were above a size 524 00:23:39,514 --> 00:23:42,114 Speaker 4: fourteen sort of just giving feedback about what we want, 525 00:23:42,154 --> 00:23:47,194 Speaker 4: what we want to see in fashion and what I 526 00:23:47,234 --> 00:23:50,114 Speaker 4: guess what needs to sort of change in the space. 527 00:23:50,554 --> 00:23:52,874 Speaker 4: And so that really excited me being a part of 528 00:23:52,874 --> 00:23:53,994 Speaker 4: that group and being a part. 529 00:23:53,874 --> 00:23:54,754 Speaker 2: Of that process. 530 00:23:55,074 --> 00:23:58,994 Speaker 4: And you know, I didn't think that I like didn't 531 00:23:58,994 --> 00:24:01,394 Speaker 4: think that it was going to go anywhere from there. 532 00:24:01,434 --> 00:24:06,194 Speaker 4: But one day DeGale slid into my DMS and was like, Hey, 533 00:24:06,234 --> 00:24:09,794 Speaker 4: we'd love to chat to you further. So I sort 534 00:24:09,834 --> 00:24:11,914 Speaker 4: of met with them and they're saying, look, we're looking 535 00:24:11,954 --> 00:24:14,634 Speaker 4: for someone to sort of champion our brand and be 536 00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:17,114 Speaker 4: that face of the community, because I do like we 537 00:24:17,194 --> 00:24:19,114 Speaker 4: do have a bit of a community online in that 538 00:24:19,194 --> 00:24:22,674 Speaker 4: sort of curve space, and they just wanted someone to 539 00:24:22,674 --> 00:24:26,313 Speaker 4: sort of champion that, and so I feel it's almost 540 00:24:26,354 --> 00:24:29,154 Speaker 4: like sort of like an ambassador for the brand as well, 541 00:24:29,234 --> 00:24:32,314 Speaker 4: Like when I come online, like people sort of relate 542 00:24:32,354 --> 00:24:34,833 Speaker 4: to that, So it's sort of like that community. That's 543 00:24:34,874 --> 00:24:37,434 Speaker 4: where that sense of community comes from. So when I 544 00:24:37,514 --> 00:24:39,554 Speaker 4: joined the team, they were looking for someone to sort 545 00:24:39,594 --> 00:24:43,073 Speaker 4: of manage the socials, and obviously, with my content creator 546 00:24:43,154 --> 00:24:45,674 Speaker 4: background as well, I sort of brought that to the table. 547 00:24:46,314 --> 00:24:48,073 Speaker 4: So I get to have a lot of fun in 548 00:24:48,114 --> 00:24:51,273 Speaker 4: that space. So obviously there's all the admin work, all 549 00:24:51,714 --> 00:24:53,914 Speaker 4: that sort of stuff, but I think my main role 550 00:24:53,954 --> 00:24:58,073 Speaker 4: there is like that community engagement and also that content 551 00:24:58,154 --> 00:25:01,434 Speaker 4: creation piece, So I love We just recently did the 552 00:25:01,474 --> 00:25:03,273 Speaker 4: holiday hotline and we got like this old. 553 00:25:03,194 --> 00:25:05,274 Speaker 2: Vintage phone and everything, so I get to. 554 00:25:05,194 --> 00:25:08,674 Speaker 4: Be really creative with that and I just absolutely love 555 00:25:08,714 --> 00:25:11,274 Speaker 4: that element of it because I am a very creative 556 00:25:11,314 --> 00:25:15,274 Speaker 4: person at Hearts, So that's like my main role there 557 00:25:15,354 --> 00:25:19,234 Speaker 4: is creating content creating like maybe like strategies as well. 558 00:25:19,314 --> 00:25:22,554 Speaker 4: So like marketing strategies or I also like I think 559 00:25:22,594 --> 00:25:25,234 Speaker 4: I like to like really I wear many hats, yep, 560 00:25:25,354 --> 00:25:27,994 Speaker 4: I wear many hats because I even help like with 561 00:25:28,154 --> 00:25:31,033 Speaker 4: design feedback, and I love that too, So I'm very 562 00:25:31,154 --> 00:25:31,714 Speaker 4: much involved. 563 00:25:31,754 --> 00:25:33,194 Speaker 2: It's a very like tight knit team. 564 00:25:33,674 --> 00:25:35,954 Speaker 1: And I guess you talked about you come from a 565 00:25:35,994 --> 00:25:39,674 Speaker 1: content creation background, being in that sort of industry yourself 566 00:25:39,714 --> 00:25:41,954 Speaker 1: and doing that for your own personal brand. How does 567 00:25:41,994 --> 00:25:44,914 Speaker 1: that sort of affect how you create content for a 568 00:25:44,954 --> 00:25:46,634 Speaker 1: brand like Degel, for example. 569 00:25:47,194 --> 00:25:50,114 Speaker 4: I think what I love is I don't feel like 570 00:25:50,154 --> 00:25:52,634 Speaker 4: they let me just be myself as well, and so 571 00:25:52,714 --> 00:25:55,714 Speaker 4: we're like we've created a few funny tiktoks, and I 572 00:25:55,754 --> 00:25:57,674 Speaker 4: think it's really like, I think it's fun that they 573 00:25:57,754 --> 00:26:00,834 Speaker 4: let me just be my own personality in that space 574 00:26:00,874 --> 00:26:03,474 Speaker 4: as well. And a lot of my content is very similar, 575 00:26:03,594 --> 00:26:06,594 Speaker 4: like in terms of like how I create content is 576 00:26:06,674 --> 00:26:08,914 Speaker 4: very similar for the brand and for my own personal 577 00:26:08,954 --> 00:26:11,914 Speaker 4: brand too in terms of like, you know, how we 578 00:26:11,914 --> 00:26:13,594 Speaker 4: do like the close up shots and all these like 579 00:26:13,634 --> 00:26:17,434 Speaker 4: beautiful like visuals in sort of the videos and things. 580 00:26:17,474 --> 00:26:21,194 Speaker 4: So I think it's very like, very much similar. 581 00:26:21,394 --> 00:26:24,594 Speaker 1: Being someone who works in content creation and fashion, you're 582 00:26:24,634 --> 00:26:26,754 Speaker 1: sort of in the space where you're always seeing kind 583 00:26:26,794 --> 00:26:29,273 Speaker 1: of what brands are doing. What are the brands that 584 00:26:29,314 --> 00:26:31,553 Speaker 1: you think are doing really well when it comes to 585 00:26:32,074 --> 00:26:35,474 Speaker 1: size inclusivity, whether that's to do with represent representation and 586 00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:39,793 Speaker 1: campaigns or talking about stocking white range of sizes. What 587 00:26:39,834 --> 00:26:41,234 Speaker 1: are the brands that you think are like really at 588 00:26:41,234 --> 00:26:42,514 Speaker 1: the forefront and doing it well. 589 00:26:42,714 --> 00:26:45,194 Speaker 2: I think at the moment, I see a lot the 590 00:26:45,314 --> 00:26:46,074 Speaker 2: Lalla Bi Club. 591 00:26:46,554 --> 00:26:47,754 Speaker 3: I love the very Yeah. 592 00:26:48,114 --> 00:26:51,394 Speaker 4: I think they always sort of using diverse models. I 593 00:26:51,474 --> 00:26:54,594 Speaker 4: see that Fate the label as well. I think you 594 00:26:54,674 --> 00:26:57,834 Speaker 4: always see sort of that diversity in their in their 595 00:26:57,874 --> 00:27:00,954 Speaker 4: campaigns or in their modeling too. And I just recently 596 00:27:00,994 --> 00:27:03,754 Speaker 4: saw Booty do a big campaign and I thought it 597 00:27:03,754 --> 00:27:06,594 Speaker 4: was beautiful and I love the diversity there as well. 598 00:27:06,634 --> 00:27:08,914 Speaker 4: So that's like from brands that I sort of had 599 00:27:08,954 --> 00:27:11,194 Speaker 4: my eyes on because you know, I follow them because 600 00:27:11,194 --> 00:27:14,154 Speaker 4: they stock my size. But that's something that's always coming 601 00:27:14,754 --> 00:27:16,194 Speaker 4: up on my feet and it brings me a lot 602 00:27:16,194 --> 00:27:17,674 Speaker 4: of joy when I see that. 603 00:27:17,914 --> 00:27:20,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, And obviously there's been a lot of change in 604 00:27:20,794 --> 00:27:23,514 Speaker 1: the industry over the years, whether that be fast enough 605 00:27:23,594 --> 00:27:26,434 Speaker 1: or not, there's been progress, at least over the last 606 00:27:26,434 --> 00:27:29,474 Speaker 1: several years. What do you think, though, is the biggest 607 00:27:29,514 --> 00:27:33,154 Speaker 1: misconception when it comes to fashion currently. 608 00:27:33,114 --> 00:27:35,834 Speaker 4: There's this misconception that all women don't want to participate 609 00:27:35,914 --> 00:27:37,954 Speaker 4: in a trend or don't want to sort of wear 610 00:27:37,994 --> 00:27:40,954 Speaker 4: what someone else who you know is a size ten 611 00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:41,714 Speaker 4: might be wearing. 612 00:27:41,834 --> 00:27:44,874 Speaker 2: Like for me, I'm like, I want a sequence skirt, 613 00:27:44,954 --> 00:27:46,674 Speaker 2: Like I don't mind showing a bit of my legs. 614 00:27:46,714 --> 00:27:46,754 Speaker 3: Like. 615 00:27:46,794 --> 00:27:49,594 Speaker 4: I think that's probably like the biggest misconception, and I 616 00:27:49,634 --> 00:27:51,834 Speaker 4: think like that's not only just in the fashion industry. 617 00:27:51,874 --> 00:27:54,914 Speaker 4: I think like even individuals have a long way to 618 00:27:54,954 --> 00:27:57,553 Speaker 4: go in their own confidence because for so many years 619 00:27:57,834 --> 00:28:00,754 Speaker 4: they haven't I guess, had that representation and so they 620 00:28:00,834 --> 00:28:04,513 Speaker 4: might be a little bit scared to participate in those 621 00:28:04,594 --> 00:28:08,314 Speaker 4: trends or dress a certain way because of maybe how 622 00:28:08,594 --> 00:28:10,834 Speaker 4: they think that it's going to be perceived or yeah, 623 00:28:10,954 --> 00:28:14,114 Speaker 4: things like that. So I think that's probably like the biggest, 624 00:28:14,674 --> 00:28:15,394 Speaker 4: the biggest one. 625 00:28:15,554 --> 00:28:17,234 Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, it still has a lot of 626 00:28:17,554 --> 00:28:19,274 Speaker 2: There has been a lot of progress, as we said, 627 00:28:19,314 --> 00:28:21,914 Speaker 2: but I think they has to do a lot to do. Yeah, 628 00:28:22,234 --> 00:28:22,554 Speaker 2: So I. 629 00:28:22,474 --> 00:28:27,474 Speaker 4: Think visibility and having more sort of like bodies in 630 00:28:27,554 --> 00:28:29,834 Speaker 4: campaigns and things like that is just going to help 631 00:28:29,834 --> 00:28:33,434 Speaker 4: people to sort of really own their personal style as 632 00:28:33,434 --> 00:28:35,994 Speaker 4: well then feel that they can sort of like not 633 00:28:36,074 --> 00:28:37,114 Speaker 4: have to be in one box. 634 00:28:37,234 --> 00:28:37,474 Speaker 3: Yeah. 635 00:28:37,554 --> 00:28:39,674 Speaker 1: I mean that's the importance of representation is sometimes you 636 00:28:39,714 --> 00:28:41,874 Speaker 1: have to see it to know something as possible. Yeah. 637 00:28:41,874 --> 00:28:44,074 Speaker 1: I think when you grow up not seeing any representation 638 00:28:44,154 --> 00:28:47,794 Speaker 1: with yourself in the media and campaigns and fashion, it's. 639 00:28:47,594 --> 00:28:50,474 Speaker 3: Not something you even know you can try, you know. Yeah. 640 00:28:50,514 --> 00:28:53,794 Speaker 1: So what are some of the changes that you would 641 00:28:53,834 --> 00:28:56,674 Speaker 1: personally like to see moving forward in the fashion industry. 642 00:28:56,674 --> 00:28:58,954 Speaker 1: Obviously we've talked about there being progress and that the 643 00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:01,314 Speaker 1: fact that there's more to be done. What's one thing 644 00:29:01,354 --> 00:29:03,394 Speaker 1: that you just would really like to see change. 645 00:29:03,914 --> 00:29:06,114 Speaker 2: I think just general accessibility. 646 00:29:06,634 --> 00:29:08,874 Speaker 4: I think you know that there is even the element 647 00:29:08,994 --> 00:29:12,674 Speaker 4: of maybe a price point not being accessible. So maybe 648 00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:14,914 Speaker 4: there has to be more brands that do sort of 649 00:29:14,914 --> 00:29:18,314 Speaker 4: offer I guess an accessible price point, Like I know 650 00:29:18,394 --> 00:29:20,594 Speaker 4: you do have your brands like your Target and things 651 00:29:20,634 --> 00:29:23,194 Speaker 4: like that, so I think it'd be really important for 652 00:29:23,714 --> 00:29:27,914 Speaker 4: those sorts of brands to sort of look into, I guess, 653 00:29:28,354 --> 00:29:31,794 Speaker 4: being a little bit more explorative with their styles. 654 00:29:31,834 --> 00:29:33,234 Speaker 2: I think Target do it really well. 655 00:29:33,274 --> 00:29:35,114 Speaker 4: I think Target's one of my favorite sort of like 656 00:29:35,194 --> 00:29:38,434 Speaker 4: more budget brands, but I think there's definitely space to 657 00:29:38,514 --> 00:29:41,234 Speaker 4: sort of include be more inclusive, not only in size, 658 00:29:41,234 --> 00:29:43,114 Speaker 4: which I know we've talked about a bit, but also 659 00:29:43,234 --> 00:29:46,714 Speaker 4: just in sort of accessibility in all aspects, so and 660 00:29:46,794 --> 00:29:50,154 Speaker 4: even just mindful in sort of designs as well and 661 00:29:50,194 --> 00:29:53,514 Speaker 4: wear ability and things like that. There's a few different 662 00:29:53,554 --> 00:29:55,714 Speaker 4: sort of things that I think sort of need that improvement. 663 00:29:55,874 --> 00:29:57,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, there as well. 664 00:29:57,194 --> 00:29:59,874 Speaker 1: And like being able to access trends at all different 665 00:29:59,914 --> 00:30:14,794 Speaker 1: price points. I think that's important for sure. It's very expensive, 666 00:30:15,594 --> 00:30:19,434 Speaker 1: how hundred of these twenty five percent before we finish off. 667 00:30:19,834 --> 00:30:22,634 Speaker 1: Something we do every time on the Pod is bougie 668 00:30:22,714 --> 00:30:23,674 Speaker 1: and budget yep. 669 00:30:23,834 --> 00:30:27,394 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna be honest, I'm in my budget era. 670 00:30:27,594 --> 00:30:29,074 Speaker 1: Okay, love that for you. 671 00:30:29,554 --> 00:30:32,074 Speaker 4: Literally, Like I do have bougie things that are on 672 00:30:32,194 --> 00:30:34,554 Speaker 4: like my wish list, but I think there's nothing personally 673 00:30:34,634 --> 00:30:37,314 Speaker 4: that I have purchased for myself that is on like 674 00:30:37,314 --> 00:30:40,714 Speaker 4: a real bougie price tag. Okay, but if if, if, 675 00:30:40,914 --> 00:30:43,474 Speaker 4: if I could and just tomorrow, like no question, yep. 676 00:30:43,594 --> 00:30:48,554 Speaker 4: There's this pair of mesh mules from a brand I'm 677 00:30:48,554 --> 00:30:50,234 Speaker 4: probably gonna butchers. 678 00:30:50,354 --> 00:30:51,354 Speaker 2: A liar yep. 679 00:30:51,634 --> 00:30:53,674 Speaker 3: Yeah, yepay them. 680 00:30:53,994 --> 00:30:54,514 Speaker 2: Love them. 681 00:30:54,954 --> 00:30:57,354 Speaker 4: It's like a choppy burgundy sort of color. Yeah, I 682 00:30:57,434 --> 00:30:59,954 Speaker 4: love them and love that. I saw a photo of them. 683 00:30:59,994 --> 00:31:01,874 Speaker 4: I have been dreaming of them, so that would probably 684 00:31:01,914 --> 00:31:03,154 Speaker 4: be my bougie pick. 685 00:31:03,274 --> 00:31:06,394 Speaker 1: Yeah, A liar's got incredible shoes. Yeah, nothing I can afford. 686 00:31:06,834 --> 00:31:08,154 Speaker 1: We can dream from a fine. 687 00:31:08,154 --> 00:31:10,914 Speaker 4: I'm with you, but I'm like, they're beautiful. But there's 688 00:31:10,954 --> 00:31:13,914 Speaker 4: definitely I've seen Jupes. I've seen Jupes like so it's 689 00:31:13,954 --> 00:31:17,554 Speaker 4: definitely something that yep is definitely budget friendly if you sort. 690 00:31:17,354 --> 00:31:19,154 Speaker 3: Of want to go there, but you can find jubes. 691 00:31:19,234 --> 00:31:19,914 Speaker 2: Yeah, love that. 692 00:31:20,274 --> 00:31:22,074 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll do my bougie and then we can move 693 00:31:22,114 --> 00:31:25,434 Speaker 1: on to budget. So my boujie not actually that bougie, 694 00:31:25,514 --> 00:31:30,154 Speaker 1: but Dish has this chocolate silk skirt, so like silk, 695 00:31:30,154 --> 00:31:33,194 Speaker 1: I think perfect for summer. We talked about natural fibers 696 00:31:33,234 --> 00:31:35,834 Speaker 1: and how breathable they are. This one's around two hundred 697 00:31:35,874 --> 00:31:39,074 Speaker 1: and twenty nine dollars, really beautiful, really wearable. I'm a 698 00:31:39,114 --> 00:31:41,314 Speaker 1: real chocolate brown kind of girl, and we talked a 699 00:31:41,354 --> 00:31:44,394 Speaker 1: little bit about how that's still really trending this summer. 700 00:31:44,514 --> 00:31:46,714 Speaker 1: So that's one that I will be buying and adding 701 00:31:46,754 --> 00:31:49,074 Speaker 1: to my wardrobe, and a silk skirt is just so versatile, 702 00:31:49,394 --> 00:31:53,114 Speaker 1: even not during summer winter, for really any sort of season. 703 00:31:53,154 --> 00:31:54,434 Speaker 3: It's something that goes with everything. 704 00:31:54,554 --> 00:31:57,234 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Like in come winter, you'll see me 705 00:31:57,274 --> 00:32:00,834 Speaker 4: wearing my silk or satin skirts with blazers, yes, yes. 706 00:32:00,634 --> 00:32:01,794 Speaker 3: Even jumpers over top. 707 00:32:01,874 --> 00:32:02,114 Speaker 2: Yes. 708 00:32:02,234 --> 00:32:02,994 Speaker 3: So versatile. 709 00:32:03,074 --> 00:32:05,914 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, do you want to do your budget? 710 00:32:06,714 --> 00:32:11,274 Speaker 4: Yeah? My budget at the moment. One of my favorite 711 00:32:11,314 --> 00:32:15,474 Speaker 4: shoe brands is Therapy Shoes, So I find that they 712 00:32:15,554 --> 00:32:17,074 Speaker 4: sort of dip in those trends. So if you are 713 00:32:17,114 --> 00:32:20,234 Speaker 4: liking those sort of kitten heels, bomb sandals, things like that, 714 00:32:20,394 --> 00:32:22,594 Speaker 4: they are nailing it with the colors and everything at 715 00:32:22,594 --> 00:32:24,994 Speaker 4: the moment. So if you're sort of again looking for 716 00:32:25,034 --> 00:32:29,114 Speaker 4: that budget friendly footwear brand, I think Therapy is fantastic. 717 00:32:29,154 --> 00:32:29,354 Speaker 3: Yeah. 718 00:32:29,354 --> 00:32:31,194 Speaker 1: I love that. Own so many pairs of Therapy shoes, 719 00:32:31,234 --> 00:32:33,994 Speaker 1: really affordable and really hold up well. Yes, I've got 720 00:32:33,994 --> 00:32:35,314 Speaker 1: pairs that I've had for years. 721 00:32:35,514 --> 00:32:36,914 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that brand. 722 00:32:37,234 --> 00:32:40,914 Speaker 1: Okay, my budget we talked about Lalla by Club Mine 723 00:32:40,954 --> 00:32:43,914 Speaker 1: is a sun hat forty nine ninety five. It's kind 724 00:32:43,914 --> 00:32:46,794 Speaker 1: of a Gingham print hat. It's got these two little 725 00:32:46,954 --> 00:32:48,754 Speaker 1: I don't know what you call these ribbons. 726 00:32:48,394 --> 00:32:48,874 Speaker 3: On the side. 727 00:32:49,434 --> 00:32:51,434 Speaker 1: I think a hat is such a summer staple and 728 00:32:51,434 --> 00:32:53,954 Speaker 1: it's so underrated because it's something you need every weekend 729 00:32:54,034 --> 00:32:56,074 Speaker 1: you go out pop it on, one for sun protection, 730 00:32:56,154 --> 00:32:58,474 Speaker 1: but two just for like fashion. I think it's a 731 00:32:58,474 --> 00:33:01,874 Speaker 1: fun way to add a little interest, little pop of color. Yeah, 732 00:33:02,034 --> 00:33:04,074 Speaker 1: and it feels like a fashion galie item you can 733 00:33:04,114 --> 00:33:07,034 Speaker 1: throw on. So yeah, that's mine. I feel like that's one. 734 00:33:07,354 --> 00:33:09,034 Speaker 1: It's not too expensive that you can pick up that. 735 00:33:09,074 --> 00:33:11,314 Speaker 3: I feel like you would. Yeah, kind of all through 736 00:33:11,314 --> 00:33:11,714 Speaker 3: the summer. 737 00:33:11,794 --> 00:33:12,514 Speaker 2: Yeah, gorgeous. 738 00:33:12,514 --> 00:33:14,594 Speaker 4: I love that I have a few of those sort 739 00:33:14,594 --> 00:33:17,634 Speaker 4: of straw hats things like that, Like I can't go 740 00:33:17,714 --> 00:33:19,674 Speaker 4: to the beach without it, Like I do not want 741 00:33:19,714 --> 00:33:23,834 Speaker 4: sunburn on my scalp. No, thank you, Yeah, guys, literally, Lily, 742 00:33:23,834 --> 00:33:26,154 Speaker 4: And it's hard. Like I know there are SPF brands 743 00:33:26,154 --> 00:33:28,754 Speaker 4: out there that you can spray your scalp, but your 744 00:33:28,794 --> 00:33:29,794 Speaker 4: hat is your shore way. 745 00:33:29,954 --> 00:33:32,354 Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, And I love that, Like larger brim 746 00:33:32,354 --> 00:33:35,514 Speaker 1: hats are now really trendy and in again, so. 747 00:33:36,034 --> 00:33:37,074 Speaker 2: Oh I love that. 748 00:33:37,394 --> 00:33:38,354 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. 749 00:33:38,314 --> 00:33:41,354 Speaker 1: So much, Thanks so much for having This was so 750 00:33:41,434 --> 00:33:43,874 Speaker 1: much fun and we've really enjoyed getting all of your 751 00:33:43,874 --> 00:33:46,674 Speaker 1: tips and tricks and just really hearing about your journey 752 00:33:46,754 --> 00:33:49,594 Speaker 1: and fashion and your career. That's all we have time 753 00:33:49,594 --> 00:33:51,794 Speaker 1: for today. Thank you so much for listening to Nothing 754 00:33:51,834 --> 00:33:53,634 Speaker 1: to Wear, and don't forget to sign up to our 755 00:33:53,634 --> 00:33:55,914 Speaker 1: Nothing to Ear newsletter. There's a link in the show notes, 756 00:33:56,274 --> 00:33:58,274 Speaker 1: and don't forget to watch us on YouTube and follow 757 00:33:58,354 --> 00:34:00,154 Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Nothing to Wear Pod. 758 00:34:00,354 --> 00:34:01,114 Speaker 3: We'll be back soon. 759 00:34:01,394 --> 00:34:01,714 Speaker 2: Bye. 760 00:34:03,434 --> 00:34:03,834 Speaker 3: Mommia. 761 00:34:03,914 --> 00:34:06,634 Speaker 1: Acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. We've recorded this 762 00:34:06,634 --> 00:34:10,153 Speaker 1: podcast on the Gadigol people of the Urination. We pay 763 00:34:10,154 --> 00:34:12,914 Speaker 1: our respects to their elders past and present, and extend 764 00:34:12,913 --> 00:34:15,874 Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate islander cultures.