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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. Does it feel like the weekend

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Speaker 2: just lived through the shortest day of the year, plus

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Speaker 2: might just be the foundation for a blissful relationship. Before

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Speaker 2: we get to all of that, here's Claire Murphy with

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Speaker 2: the latest from The Quickie newsroom for Monday, June twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. Iran has responded to the US entering Israel's

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Speaker 1: war against them, saying they've crossed a very big red line.

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Speaker 1: The US yesterday dropped pound bombs on three uranium in

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Speaker 1: Richmond sites, also employing what are known as bunker buster bombs,

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Speaker 1: able to penetrate into the ground where nuclear bunkers are located.

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Speaker 3: Tonight, I can report to the world that the strikes

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Speaker 3: were a spectacular military success. Iran's key nuclear and Richmond

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Speaker 3: facilities have been completely and totally obliterated around the bully

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Speaker 3: of the Middle East must now make peace. If they

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Speaker 3: do not, future attacks would be far greater and.

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Speaker 1: A lot easier. The stealth bombers who drop the bombs

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Speaker 1: have now returned to their base in Missouri. In the

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Speaker 1: US Secretary of Defense peak Hexit, saying our boys in

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Speaker 1: those bombers are on their way home. A US official

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Speaker 1: a woman. Some democratic politicians called the attack of violation

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Speaker 1: an official vote from Congress. In response, Iran overnight launched

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Speaker 1: missiles against Israel. Israeli authorities reporting that the attack has

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Speaker 1: left eighty people injured. So far, Iran's major allies, including Hezbala,

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Speaker 1: the Lebanese militant group, have not entered the escalating violence. Hesbela,

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Speaker 1: condemning the US strikes but not threatening to join the retaliation.

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Speaker 1: Russia's head of President Vladimir Putin's Security Council, Dmitri Medvedev,

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Speaker 1: says there are several countries prepared to supply Tehran with

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Speaker 1: This war began back on June thirteen, when Israel launched

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Speaker 1: a surprise attack on Iran, claiming it was necessary to

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Speaker 1: of all outgoing flights from Israel, the airport only resuming

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Speaker 1: foreign tourists had requested help from their home countries to

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Speaker 1: The UN Secretary General Antonioga Terra says he is gravely

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Speaker 1: Australian Prime Minister Anthony Alberonizi has not responded to the

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Speaker 4: The United States would not have conducted air strikes a

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Speaker 4: Now that we've seen this unprecedented attack from the United

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Speaker 4: What really could be a game changer here is if

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Speaker 1: Doctor Ganal says Australia's involvement in any of the current

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Speaker 4: I think it's unlikely that Australia is going to be

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Speaker 4: So Trump has not tried to coordinate with other European powers,

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Speaker 4: it's very unlikely in that scenario that Australia would volunteer

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Speaker 1: A survey conducted by the Australian Council of Social Security

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Speaker 1: The survey found half of those who responded live in

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Speaker 1: those repairs done urgently. Thirty one percent of rental homes

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Speaker 1: have cockroach and or other pest problems, almost a quarter

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Speaker 1: Ozzie fitness influencer Tammy Hembro has taken to social media

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of you have been, you know,

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Speaker 1: The thirty one year old says she blames no one

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Speaker 6: Thanks Claire. Next.

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Speaker 2: The Winter Solstice has been and gone, but colder weather.

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Speaker 2: If you woke up on Saturday expecting to shiver through

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Speaker 2: surprised it actually wasn't the depth of winter icy you

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Speaker 2: were expecting. The Winter Solstice marks the shortest day and

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Speaker 2: longest night for Australia, with Hobart seeing just over nine

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Speaker 2: Sorry to say, just becase we've had the least amount

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Speaker 2: This seasonal lag happens because the oceans around us hold

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Speaker 6: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Sabrina's houlshtick is poking fun at the way women are

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Speaker 6: In Man's Best Friend.

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Speaker 2: Her music and persona always been about flipping the script,

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Speaker 2: by Muma MIA's entertainment editor Tina Burke TV. Let's start

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Speaker 2: with Taylor Swift. What have the text between her and

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Speaker 7: So we don't yet know the exact contents of the text,

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Speaker 7: but what has been alleged is that throughout the press

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Speaker 7: tool for It Ends with Us, Blake Lively was very

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Speaker 7: vocal about, like, you know, Taylor Swift was with me

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Speaker 2: So that's the legal argument for why he's done this,

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Speaker 2: But obviously people have made assumptions for other reasons. We

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Speaker 7: It's believed that it might be part of Justin's team's

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Speaker 7: as part of this ongoing trial. Taylor Swift, obviously, dependent

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Speaker 7: on how you feel about her, her name is a

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Speaker 7: and Tree Payne. Taylor Swifts publicist who we all know

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Speaker 7: They said, like Taylor never set foot on the set

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Speaker 7: She didn't score the film, she didn't see an edit,

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Speaker 2: Well from Taylor's team, short and sharp message to Sabrina

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Speaker 2: Carpenter's Short and Sweet album, Let's talk about Sabrina Carpenter.

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Speaker 2: She's just dropped the new album cover to her upcoming release.

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Speaker 2: Why are people so angry about this TV?

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Speaker 7: There's kind of two schools at the moment of why

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Speaker 7: I think is blowing this up quite disproportioned to the

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Speaker 7: Like on her posts there are comments saying that, you know,

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Speaker 7: the music she makes isn't interesting enough in quotes, isn't

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Speaker 7: interesting enough to have this kind of subversive imagery, that

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Speaker 7: she's basically not doing enough as a feminist to have

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Speaker 7: So people like it's not satire because they don't see

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Speaker 7: it as satirical. And I mean, that is one whole

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Speaker 7: conversation which I think has blown up. And Sabrina Carpenter

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Speaker 7: The image is portraying something that is consensual. And we

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Speaker 7: also know that Sabrina has a habit of kind of

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Speaker 7: to have is that there are a lot of artists

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Speaker 7: There's every possibility, And I mean, I think the fact

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Speaker 7: And the music video itself is very cinematic and it's

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of the three a's theory? Psychologist

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Speaker 2: and relationship coach Sadia Khan says that while we're always

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Speaker 2: told communication and trust are key, there are three essentials

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Speaker 2: For women, emotional connection can actually make someone seem more

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Speaker 2: illusion bias. Admiration is about genuinely respecting your partner for

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Speaker 2: It's seeing qualities in them you look up to, like

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Speaker 6: The everyday reassurance that you're loved for who you are.

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Speaker 2: When adoration is missing, people can feel undervalued and emotionally neglected,

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Speaker 6: Kant's theory is simple. If any one of these three a's.

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Speaker 2: Is missing, then that's when things start to unravel. No spark,

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Speaker 2: the relationship feels flat, no admiration, criticism creeps in, no

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Speaker 6: But when all three are present, well.

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Speaker 2: You've got the foundation for something that can weather any storm.

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