WEBVTT - The Story Kayla Jade Wasn't Supposed To Tell 0:00:05.799 --> 0:00:08.519 You're listening to a mother Mia podcast. 0:00:09.399 --> 0:00:13.239 Hi, No Felter listeners, it's Katelinebrook Here. We're bringing back 0:00:13.239 --> 0:00:15.999 this conversation with Kayla Jade following the release of her 0:00:16.039 --> 0:00:20.399 new book Call Girl Confidential, because when this episode first 0:00:20.439 --> 0:00:23.159 came out last year, so many of you were completely 0:00:23.199 --> 0:00:28.439 captivated by Kayla's story. At the time, Kayla was known 0:00:28.479 --> 0:00:32.359 for her hugely viral tiktoks, but in this interview she 0:00:32.439 --> 0:00:36.639 shared so much more than what people had seen online. 0:00:36.719 --> 0:00:39.199 She opened up about the double life she was living, 0:00:39.399 --> 0:00:42.639 the reality of working in the sex industry, and the 0:00:42.679 --> 0:00:49.799 deeply personal experiences she hadn't spoken about publicly before. It's raw, surprising, funny, 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:54.199 incredibly revealing and searingly honest. So if you missed it 0:00:54.239 --> 0:00:58.759 the first time around, here is my conversation with Kayla Jade. 0:00:58.799 --> 0:01:01.839 Was Peggy Sue, Peter Dutton, I don't want to get sued, okay, 0:01:02.759 --> 0:01:06.119 and yet, in a really strange sort of way, I 0:01:06.119 --> 0:01:08.919 think it played a part in affecting the outcome of 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:09.599 an election. 0:01:10.199 --> 0:01:11.439 Sorry about that, Peter Dutta. 0:01:18.519 --> 0:01:23.879 Oh Well, Today on No Filter, we're talking pegging and 0:01:24.119 --> 0:01:29.799 porn and what happens when a sex worker accidentally or 0:01:29.839 --> 0:01:34.279 by design, becomes one of the most recognizable women on 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:39.359 the Internet in Australia. Kayla Jade is a Gold Coast mum, 0:01:39.839 --> 0:01:44.799 a content creator, a full service sex worker, and TikTok's 0:01:44.879 --> 0:01:49.119 storytime girl. One minute, she's counting cash on camera, a 0:01:49.159 --> 0:01:52.799 lot of cash. The next she's flying halfway across the 0:01:52.839 --> 0:01:58.759 world to sleep with an a lister. She's been doxed, stalked, adored, 0:01:59.239 --> 0:02:03.119 and almost died on an operating table in Turkey, and 0:02:03.159 --> 0:02:07.079 now she's living in the car, raising her kids and 0:02:07.239 --> 0:02:13.239 launching an empire. We talk clients, secrets, celebrity flings and yes, 0:02:14.479 --> 0:02:19.319 Peggy Sue, So pull up a seat. This is one 0:02:19.479 --> 0:02:22.159 story Kayla Jade wasn't supposed to. 0:02:22.159 --> 0:02:27.199 Tell, but of course she does. Kayla Jade. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.159 Do I call you Kayla or are you the full 0:02:30.199 --> 0:02:31.599 blue eyed Kayla Jade? 0:02:31.679 --> 0:02:33.999 To call me Kaylor, that's my name. 0:02:35.159 --> 0:02:36.399 Welcome to No Filter. 0:02:36.879 --> 0:02:37.679 Thanks for having me. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.919 And often, you know, when we have guests on the pod, 0:02:42.519 --> 0:02:44.719 we have to remind them that the show is called 0:02:44.759 --> 0:02:48.399 No Filter. But I don't think that I have to 0:02:48.519 --> 0:02:51.479 remind you. 0:02:50.319 --> 0:02:51.279 No pretty much. 0:02:51.679 --> 0:02:54.279 Yeah, I post a little bit too much on the Internet, 0:02:54.399 --> 0:02:56.039 so I'm sure we won't have a problem today. 0:02:56.799 --> 0:03:00.679 But you're very interesting because you are, among many things, 0:03:00.719 --> 0:03:06.359 a sex worker, and you have really stepped into yourself 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:11.079 and the truth of your life, firstly in a professional 0:03:11.079 --> 0:03:16.399 capacity but also in a personal capacity that I think 0:03:16.439 --> 0:03:18.279 has kind of changed things. 0:03:18.959 --> 0:03:22.359 Yeah, I mean, it's definitely you know, it hasn't been 0:03:22.399 --> 0:03:24.999 anything that's planned. It's all just come naturally. So I'm 0:03:24.999 --> 0:03:28.119 sort of learning as I go to you know, be 0:03:28.199 --> 0:03:31.039 a content creator because I guess I had dabbled a 0:03:31.039 --> 0:03:33.359 bit in it before, but never to this level. So 0:03:33.439 --> 0:03:36.239 it's just like a whole learning curve and you know, 0:03:36.319 --> 0:03:41.679 adapting to my audience to make sure that I'm you know, 0:03:41.719 --> 0:03:45.559 giving out the best information and you know, telling the 0:03:45.639 --> 0:03:47.679 RWs of it as well, and not trying to just 0:03:47.839 --> 0:03:50.519 like make it seem like it's all glitz and glamour, 0:03:50.919 --> 0:03:54.159 because you know, it's definitely not the industry that is 0:03:54.239 --> 0:03:56.039 like that. There's a lot of bad stuff to it too, 0:03:56.119 --> 0:03:57.959 So I guess just. 0:03:57.919 --> 0:04:01.239 From the start, you know, showing that every side of it. 0:04:01.999 --> 0:04:07.159 When you were little growing up in New Zealand in 0:04:07.199 --> 0:04:11.479 a small town, who was Kayla Jade? 0:04:11.599 --> 0:04:14.239 Then? What were you like as a as a kid. 0:04:14.679 --> 0:04:19.279 Ah, I guess like little me, like I always had 0:04:19.319 --> 0:04:23.239 like a good family life, social life, but I guess 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:28.319 in a way, I always struggled a little bit throughout 0:04:28.399 --> 0:04:33.279 school because I had ADHD, but I was undiagnosed, So 0:04:33.519 --> 0:04:36.239 I guess a lot of my life I was thinking. 0:04:35.959 --> 0:04:38.519 Like, you know, what's wrong with me? 0:04:38.759 --> 0:04:41.679 Like why can't I, you know, act a certain way 0:04:41.759 --> 0:04:45.159 or be normal in a way, And like ADHD was 0:04:45.239 --> 0:04:48.319 just never on the cards for me because it, like 0:04:48.439 --> 0:04:51.879 especially in females, it's much harder to diagnose because I 0:04:51.959 --> 0:04:53.199 wasn't like the hyper. 0:04:52.999 --> 0:04:53.639 Kid at school. 0:04:53.679 --> 0:04:55.919 You know, I was actually quite quiet and just like 0:04:56.799 --> 0:04:59.799 I was always just chill throughout my whole life, probably 0:04:59.799 --> 0:05:01.719 a little bit too chill that I'm just like away 0:05:01.719 --> 0:05:03.159 with the furies and have no idea. 0:05:02.919 --> 0:05:03.519 What's going on. 0:05:04.559 --> 0:05:07.759 But as soon as I was diagnosed, like later in life, 0:05:07.759 --> 0:05:10.359 when I was about like twenty nine, it was only 0:05:10.359 --> 0:05:12.039 a couple of years ago, I. 0:05:12.079 --> 0:05:14.239 Was just like, it makes so much sense. 0:05:14.359 --> 0:05:16.559 Why I was like this as a child, and you 0:05:16.599 --> 0:05:19.479 know why I acted a certain way and why I 0:05:19.519 --> 0:05:21.799 always had to ask, you know, my friends around me 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.599 what's going on because I just had no idea so 0:05:24.679 --> 0:05:27.799 I guess a lot of that, Like getting diagnosed was 0:05:27.799 --> 0:05:30.879 definitely like, you know, another piece to the puzzle, Like, oh, 0:05:30.919 --> 0:05:32.239 this makes so much sense. 0:05:33.319 --> 0:05:37.159 When you were growing up, what was your you? 0:05:37.319 --> 0:05:38.959 So you said you just had like kind of a 0:05:38.999 --> 0:05:42.519 traditional family, very close fun. 0:05:43.919 --> 0:05:45.239 It was you and your sister. 0:05:45.559 --> 0:05:47.999 Yeah, yeah, I was so just like you know, a 0:05:48.079 --> 0:05:50.799 middle class family. You know, we got by. 0:05:51.439 --> 0:05:53.079 So when you felt that you were a little bit 0:05:53.119 --> 0:05:56.759 different to everybody else, but not necessarily, it sounds. 0:05:56.519 --> 0:05:57.439 Like in a bad way. 0:05:57.639 --> 0:06:01.519 No, did you always feel that you had a story 0:06:01.559 --> 0:06:01.999 to tell? 0:06:02.679 --> 0:06:05.879 Honestly, Like, no, I had. 0:06:05.959 --> 0:06:09.719 I had no idea what was gonna happen in my 0:06:09.879 --> 0:06:12.599 life or my future. I don't know if it's part 0:06:12.639 --> 0:06:15.879 of like an ADHD thing, but I never thought past 0:06:15.919 --> 0:06:19.399 the present day really, So I was just like, I 0:06:19.399 --> 0:06:22.279 guess my personality type of always been like go with 0:06:22.319 --> 0:06:25.879 the flow. Whatever happens, happens. If it's good, great, If 0:06:25.879 --> 0:06:27.239 it's not, we'll get through it. 0:06:27.919 --> 0:06:30.199 There's just always been like the way I've worked. 0:06:30.199 --> 0:06:33.119 So I've never really thought of, you know, coming here 0:06:33.159 --> 0:06:34.839 today and telling my story. 0:06:35.799 --> 0:06:36.799 It's crazy because like. 0:06:36.759 --> 0:06:38.559 You know, you grow up in a small town and 0:06:38.599 --> 0:06:39.999 like a lot of people around you. 0:06:40.079 --> 0:06:42.999 Like, I just saw everyone was just doing the. 0:06:42.919 --> 0:06:45.799 Same thing, and I guess I thought that was going 0:06:45.879 --> 0:06:48.639 to be my trajectory as well. 0:06:48.799 --> 0:06:51.839 What did you think that trajectory was going to be? Like, 0:06:52.119 --> 0:06:54.039 what would your life have looked like? 0:06:54.559 --> 0:06:55.239 I had no idea. 0:06:55.399 --> 0:06:58.639 Yeah, but you had your boyfriend, so it would have 0:06:58.679 --> 0:07:01.399 been kind of settling down quite traditional. 0:07:01.879 --> 0:07:05.439 Yeah, when I when I moved to a that's. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.839 When I met my part my ex partner. 0:07:08.559 --> 0:07:10.199 But yeah, in New Zealand, I was just sort of 0:07:10.239 --> 0:07:12.799 floating around and trying different things. 0:07:13.239 --> 0:07:15.759 And what was your impetus that made you? 0:07:15.839 --> 0:07:17.559 I mean, this is a crazy question to ask in 0:07:17.599 --> 0:07:19.879 New Zealander because there's so many of you guys here, 0:07:20.479 --> 0:07:24.839 But what made you come across the Dutch? 0:07:25.319 --> 0:07:26.519 Oh? What made me come across? 0:07:26.999 --> 0:07:30.999 Just opportunity, you know, Like obviously in New Zealand we 0:07:31.159 --> 0:07:36.159 have lower wages and everything's much more expensive, so living 0:07:36.199 --> 0:07:38.279 there is hard. And you know, I would see a 0:07:38.279 --> 0:07:43.119 lot of my friends just I guess, get into drugs 0:07:43.199 --> 0:07:46.999 or like drink every day because that's all they knew, 0:07:47.119 --> 0:07:50.359 and you know, they were just working the regular jobs. 0:07:50.399 --> 0:07:52.119 And I just knew that, like, I didn't want that 0:07:52.279 --> 0:07:54.719 for my life. Like I just saw, you know, my 0:07:54.759 --> 0:07:57.239 friends go through that, my family go through that. So 0:07:57.799 --> 0:08:00.359 I had an opportunity where it was like a sliding 0:08:00.359 --> 0:08:03.079 doors moment. I was like, I can move to Australia 0:08:03.199 --> 0:08:05.399 and see what happens, or I can stay here and 0:08:05.519 --> 0:08:07.519 just do this for the rest of my life. So 0:08:07.599 --> 0:08:11.439 I just chose, like, right, I'm just gonna I'm pretty impulsive, 0:08:11.559 --> 0:08:13.319 so I was just like fuck it, booked a flight 0:08:13.359 --> 0:08:15.559 the next day and was like, Okay, we're gone Hi, 0:08:16.159 --> 0:08:16.999 and that's what happened. 0:08:17.559 --> 0:08:23.359 And then you landed where your coast yes, ah, yeah. 0:08:23.199 --> 0:08:25.879 So I moved over here and I knew like one 0:08:25.999 --> 0:08:28.799 person here, but I had no family or friends. 0:08:30.039 --> 0:08:32.359 I was staying in a random sheer. 0:08:32.159 --> 0:08:36.119 House with like two other guys and a couple, and 0:08:36.199 --> 0:08:38.679 I was just sort of figuring everything out. 0:08:38.919 --> 0:08:41.519 And yeah, I was just lucky that it worked out. 0:08:41.919 --> 0:08:43.359 It sure did work out. 0:08:44.519 --> 0:08:49.919 At what point did you go, oh, there's something happening here. 0:08:50.839 --> 0:08:54.199 Was it that your first TikTok that changed things? 0:08:55.079 --> 0:09:00.359 No? Actually, so it just happened randomly, Like I didn't 0:09:00.399 --> 0:09:04.119 expect it when I started, because I started only fans. Actually, 0:09:04.199 --> 0:09:07.599 it was after the pandemic and I could I just 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.039 saw so many amazing women making so much money and 0:09:11.039 --> 0:09:13.319 getting the money themselves, you know, not giving it to 0:09:13.319 --> 0:09:16.719 anyone else. Men making a lot of banks. So I 0:09:16.799 --> 0:09:18.879 just it just naturally clicked in me. I was like, 0:09:18.919 --> 0:09:20.519 I think I can make money through this. 0:09:21.399 --> 0:09:23.039 And yeah, I had no idea. 0:09:23.159 --> 0:09:25.319 I had no sex work of friends, so I had 0:09:25.319 --> 0:09:26.599 to basically google how. 0:09:26.479 --> 0:09:30.279 To make an only fans, and yeah, I just started 0:09:30.279 --> 0:09:30.839 straight away. 0:09:30.879 --> 0:09:32.759 I was like, if I'm going to put this stuff 0:09:32.759 --> 0:09:34.119 out there, I'm going to go all out. 0:09:34.159 --> 0:09:34.999 And that's what I did. 0:09:35.639 --> 0:09:39.479 I immediately I had no social media following. I actually 0:09:39.519 --> 0:09:43.079 started posting on Reddit randomly and then sorry, I got 0:09:43.079 --> 0:09:45.159 a lot of because I was posting in a lot 0:09:45.159 --> 0:09:47.879 of subreddits and there's a lot of like kink subreddits. 0:09:47.919 --> 0:09:52.159 So I was just posting, posting, posting, like I lived 0:09:52.199 --> 0:09:55.039 and breathed that for the first like a little while, 0:09:55.159 --> 0:09:59.479 and then I started doing I started on Instagram and 0:10:00.279 --> 0:10:02.279 did a couple collabs, and that's. 0:10:02.159 --> 0:10:03.639 Like collabing with other girls. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.599 I was like, that's when they were like, oh, you 0:10:05.599 --> 0:10:07.599 should try a TikTok, and I was like, okay, I'll 0:10:07.639 --> 0:10:11.039 try it. Ticked up and back then it was sort 0:10:11.039 --> 0:10:13.159 of when everyone was doing like kind of more dancing 0:10:14.279 --> 0:10:15.319 right and stuff. 0:10:15.359 --> 0:10:17.119 So I was doing like a few random things, but 0:10:17.159 --> 0:10:18.519 I didn't take it seriously. 0:10:19.359 --> 0:10:22.479 It wasn't until I started doing full service work that 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.439 I just started posting what I was doing and somehow 0:10:25.959 --> 0:10:27.199 people started watching it. 0:10:27.279 --> 0:10:30.999 So yeah, when you say that you started doing full 0:10:31.039 --> 0:10:35.719 service work, like, how is that transition for you? Like 0:10:35.799 --> 0:10:39.319 what was the moment where you went, oh, I can 0:10:39.439 --> 0:10:40.479 value ad here. 0:10:41.639 --> 0:10:41.879 Yeah. 0:10:41.919 --> 0:10:44.759 Well, I guess like I had dabbled in it a 0:10:44.759 --> 0:10:47.959 little bit previously, but not never to this extent. 0:10:48.759 --> 0:10:52.159 So with my only fans, you know, I traveled. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:55.399 The world like collabing with really big names, and I 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:59.559 made like a big name for myself in that industry. 0:11:00.399 --> 0:11:01.959 So I guess I was just kind of in the 0:11:01.999 --> 0:11:04.279 mindset of like, Okay, what can I do next? How 0:11:04.359 --> 0:11:07.079 much like how much money can I save in a 0:11:07.079 --> 0:11:11.079 short amount of time. So that's when I you know, 0:11:11.159 --> 0:11:14.439 I had friends throughout the industry that were in person workers, 0:11:14.439 --> 0:11:16.479 so I was like learning from them. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.639 I was like, Okay, maybe I can make morning money 0:11:18.639 --> 0:11:18.919 from this. 0:11:19.319 --> 0:11:21.799 I feel like I have the experience now through sex 0:11:21.839 --> 0:11:26.799 work that it just happened like so naturally. But I'm 0:11:26.839 --> 0:11:29.279 so glad that I had that experience in sex work 0:11:29.319 --> 0:11:31.959 before I got into the in person work, because if 0:11:31.999 --> 0:11:33.879 I had just started in person work like when I 0:11:33.919 --> 0:11:36.839 was fresh eighteen, I probably would have got myself into 0:11:36.879 --> 0:11:40.239 some really shitty situations. So yeah, it was kind of 0:11:40.319 --> 0:11:43.559 like just timing everything worked out right. I just really 0:11:43.599 --> 0:11:46.719 wanted to get my savings up and you know, invest 0:11:46.759 --> 0:11:47.559 in some more property. 0:11:47.639 --> 0:11:48.959 So I was like, I just need to. 0:11:50.079 --> 0:11:53.159 Buckle down, and yeah, that's what I did, and it's 0:11:53.519 --> 0:11:54.199 done really well. 0:11:54.279 --> 0:11:57.439 It had done really well because there was, of course 0:11:57.479 --> 0:11:59.399 the period I think I first saw you, like a 0:11:59.439 --> 0:12:02.159 lot of people, when you'd be doing your money show 0:12:03.119 --> 0:12:03.479 mm hmm. 0:12:03.759 --> 0:12:06.239 And yeah, the money counts. 0:12:05.919 --> 0:12:10.719 Wards and wards of money of cash, and then you've 0:12:10.799 --> 0:12:13.479 kind of stepped aside from that, so you've always had 0:12:13.519 --> 0:12:18.719 this capacity to be very open and share a lot, 0:12:18.799 --> 0:12:22.559 but also you've kind of monitored yourself as well. 0:12:23.039 --> 0:12:23.319 Hmm. 0:12:23.519 --> 0:12:23.919 Totally. 0:12:23.959 --> 0:12:27.799 I think it's about like, you know, adapting and changing. 0:12:27.439 --> 0:12:30.439 You know, and yeah, I guess with the money counts, 0:12:30.479 --> 0:12:32.079 I just I got to a point like when I 0:12:32.119 --> 0:12:36.519 first started on TikTok, I started with the zero following 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.039 like I started a marite new page. When I was 0:12:39.079 --> 0:12:41.359 posting the money counts, I was posting, you know, for 0:12:41.439 --> 0:12:43.719 my sex worker friends, just for shits and giggles, to 0:12:43.719 --> 0:12:45.879 be like whatever, like I'm just going to post what 0:12:45.919 --> 0:12:46.359 I'm doing. 0:12:46.399 --> 0:12:48.159 If anyone likes it, go for it. 0:12:48.759 --> 0:12:50.239 And then it got to the point where it just 0:12:50.319 --> 0:12:54.159 it blew up so much and the money counts started 0:12:54.199 --> 0:12:57.039 becoming a little bit ecky. For me. I just felt like, 0:12:57.839 --> 0:12:59.879 you know, if girls were like scrolling through TikTok and 0:12:59.919 --> 0:13:02.399 they saw this like giant money counts and then they 0:13:02.439 --> 0:13:05.639 didn't actually like click on my page and like look 0:13:05.639 --> 0:13:07.879 at my other videos where I talk about like the 0:13:07.959 --> 0:13:09.999 dangers of sex work and like other things like that. 0:13:10.399 --> 0:13:13.599 If they just saw those videos, then they would be like, hey, 0:13:13.719 --> 0:13:15.599 like I can make this money too, and not realize 0:13:15.599 --> 0:13:18.159 what I actually had to do to get that money. 0:13:18.239 --> 0:13:21.479 So it just naturally I was like probably for a 0:13:21.519 --> 0:13:23.439 couple months, I was like, I don't I think I'm 0:13:23.439 --> 0:13:24.399 going to stop them. 0:13:24.799 --> 0:13:28.599 And that was a hard transition for me because I 0:13:28.719 --> 0:13:30.839 felt like that's what I blew up. 0:13:30.759 --> 0:13:32.479 On, So I was like no, but like should I 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:33.319 keep doing it? I don't know. 0:13:34.199 --> 0:13:36.719 But then it just naturally came that I was just like, nah, 0:13:36.759 --> 0:13:38.239 I don't think I can do these anymore. 0:13:38.359 --> 0:13:39.159 That's when I stopped. 0:13:39.399 --> 0:13:42.759 Interesting too, because security is always a big thing for 0:13:42.879 --> 0:13:44.239 every woman, really. 0:13:44.319 --> 0:13:47.719 Exactly, and I was thinking, Kim Kardashian. 0:13:47.799 --> 0:13:48.879 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 0:13:49.079 --> 0:13:52.559 Well, there was another reason why I stopped, because especially 0:13:52.599 --> 0:13:56.199 because a lot of other sex workers started doing it 0:13:56.239 --> 0:14:00.199 as well, and I was like, I'm really careful about safety, 0:14:00.279 --> 0:14:03.559 but if you know someone on here, if someone's doing 0:14:03.599 --> 0:14:05.399 it and then like not so much or they're a 0:14:05.399 --> 0:14:08.519 bit younger, I was just worried, like, you know, that 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.239 could put a target on their back, you know, but 0:14:11.519 --> 0:14:13.879 like them posting money counts and not being careful of 0:14:13.959 --> 0:14:15.159 like location and. 0:14:15.079 --> 0:14:15.639 Things like that. 0:14:15.959 --> 0:14:20.839 So yeah, I thought it was an everyone's best interest 0:14:21.359 --> 0:14:22.359 to stop the money counts. 0:14:22.839 --> 0:14:26.879 Interesting because obviously when you were doing this, and this 0:14:27.399 --> 0:14:31.879 seems like it happened fairly rapidly, that you achieved this 0:14:31.959 --> 0:14:35.119 kind of level of success that you could actually measure 0:14:35.239 --> 0:14:36.999 by the world of cash in your hand, do you 0:14:37.079 --> 0:14:41.399 know what I mean? So your family back in New Zealand, 0:14:42.639 --> 0:14:46.719 how aware were they at that point of like your 0:14:46.879 --> 0:14:49.119 new pursuit, Well. 0:14:48.959 --> 0:14:52.039 They sort of had time to adjust at the fact 0:14:52.039 --> 0:14:54.759 that I was a sex worker before the tech took came, 0:14:54.839 --> 0:14:58.879 because yeah, I was on OnlyFans. I've been on Only 0:14:58.919 --> 0:15:02.839 Fans for the past like four years, so you know, 0:15:02.919 --> 0:15:06.439 they learned pretty soon because like I did well in 0:15:06.439 --> 0:15:09.199 the Only Fans world as well, So they learned fairly 0:15:09.279 --> 0:15:11.479 quickly that I became a sex worker. 0:15:12.359 --> 0:15:14.679 But by the time, like the TikTok. 0:15:14.319 --> 0:15:16.759 Came, they were so used to they were so used 0:15:16.759 --> 0:15:18.719 to my Shenan again, so they we're like, yeah, you 0:15:18.839 --> 0:15:19.479 go off, queen. 0:15:20.639 --> 0:15:25.439 And when when you said say to your parents, oh, 0:15:25.519 --> 0:15:27.239 this is the work that I'm going to do, or 0:15:27.239 --> 0:15:29.079 this is the work that I'm doing, who do you 0:15:29.159 --> 0:15:30.759 have that conversation with first? 0:15:31.439 --> 0:15:33.519 Ah, well, they actually had the conversation with me. They 0:15:33.599 --> 0:15:37.439 found out. I actually didn't tell them. No, it's not 0:15:38.119 --> 0:15:39.639 because I didn't think that I was. 0:15:40.159 --> 0:15:41.919 I didn't think that I was going to do it 0:15:41.919 --> 0:15:44.519 for that long. Honestly, Like when I started the Only Fans, 0:15:44.559 --> 0:15:46.239 I was like, you know, I'm probably going to do 0:15:46.319 --> 0:15:47.959 this for a bit, make a bit of money, and 0:15:47.999 --> 0:15:49.079 then just like leave it. 0:15:49.799 --> 0:15:51.519 You know. I didn't think it would blow up into 0:15:51.559 --> 0:15:52.239 this big career. 0:15:52.479 --> 0:15:55.519 So I was just sort of doing it and like 0:15:55.639 --> 0:16:00.359 not not really telling anyone, and then obviously they found 0:16:00.359 --> 0:16:03.559 out word of mouth, and yeah, I guess they just 0:16:03.799 --> 0:16:06.919 immediately and I was like, hey, like, what's going on? 0:16:07.079 --> 0:16:08.039 Do you have only fans? 0:16:08.759 --> 0:16:12.119 And my mum was a little bit, I guess, just 0:16:12.239 --> 0:16:13.799 worried about me and my. 0:16:13.839 --> 0:16:16.039 Safety and everything. You know, she didn't. 0:16:15.799 --> 0:16:19.879 Really know how only fans operated, like in her ideas 0:16:19.999 --> 0:16:23.199 she had like you know, sort of nineties porn sets 0:16:23.279 --> 0:16:27.359 or something like she was freaking out. But then when 0:16:27.359 --> 0:16:29.879 she came over and just you know, saw how happy 0:16:29.919 --> 0:16:33.999 I was, and you know how it wasn't like as 0:16:34.039 --> 0:16:37.559 scary as it seems. They slowly got adjusted to it. 0:16:37.799 --> 0:16:40.759 But with me, like, I'm just like, if I want something, 0:16:41.159 --> 0:16:42.639 I'm stubborn as fuck. 0:16:42.719 --> 0:16:44.039 I would do it and I don't care. 0:16:44.679 --> 0:16:47.999 You know, if someone's not happier about it, well that's 0:16:48.039 --> 0:16:50.639 their problem. Like if I'm happy, like, I'm going to 0:16:50.679 --> 0:16:53.079 do it regardless. So I feel like there was nothing 0:16:53.159 --> 0:16:55.319 anyone could say that would be like. 0:16:56.359 --> 0:16:57.559 Oh, actually I won't do this. 0:16:57.879 --> 0:16:59.639 Yeah, But I mean a lot of people. 0:16:59.399 --> 0:17:01.879 Will ask me like what do your parents thinking your work? 0:17:01.919 --> 0:17:05.479 And I'm like, I'm fucking thirty, all grow an adult 0:17:05.559 --> 0:17:07.639 like it doesn't should not matter what my parents know 0:17:07.719 --> 0:17:09.439 about my life, you know what I mean, It. 0:17:09.399 --> 0:17:13.359 Shouldn't matter, But then there are there's just something often 0:17:13.439 --> 0:17:17.439 in that child parent relationship where it doesn't matter how 0:17:17.479 --> 0:17:21.079 old you are. Like before my dad died, he was 0:17:21.079 --> 0:17:23.399 eighty nine, I would still hide from him if I 0:17:23.439 --> 0:17:25.479 wanted to have a cigarette at a party or what 0:17:25.759 --> 0:17:26.559 is you know what I mean. 0:17:26.679 --> 0:17:32.319 It's like, Yeah, I'm actually the most open I am 0:17:32.399 --> 0:17:36.119 now with my family then I've ever been. Like I 0:17:36.159 --> 0:17:40.359 think just me opening up talking about my life online 0:17:40.879 --> 0:17:44.919 has just made me so open with them because throughout 0:17:44.959 --> 0:17:48.399 my life I struggled a lot with mental illness. 0:17:48.599 --> 0:17:49.679 I had eating. 0:17:49.399 --> 0:17:53.879 Disorders when I was younger, and I was so closed 0:17:53.919 --> 0:17:56.959 off to them for a long period of time. And 0:17:56.999 --> 0:18:00.159 I think just my mentality from the eating disorder, I 0:18:00.239 --> 0:18:03.959 had that mindset of around my family, you know, I 0:18:03.999 --> 0:18:07.799 had that close off mindset. So now just being so 0:18:08.079 --> 0:18:11.559 open and talking about things has just, yeah, opened up 0:18:11.719 --> 0:18:13.159 our relationship so much. 0:18:13.519 --> 0:18:15.959 It's funny because you know they're saying the truth will 0:18:15.959 --> 0:18:22.399 set you free, and you seem to have found increasingly 0:18:23.159 --> 0:18:27.999 so much freedom in no longer hiding aspects of your life, 0:18:28.639 --> 0:18:30.999 even from the people that you share things with. 0:18:31.639 --> 0:18:33.439 I just got to the point where I was just like, 0:18:33.559 --> 0:18:38.359 I really don't care. Like there was so much like 0:18:38.479 --> 0:18:40.759 ups and downs at the start when I first started, 0:18:40.799 --> 0:18:43.759 like I had a family member like screenshot all my 0:18:43.839 --> 0:18:48.639 content and send it to all my family, and I 0:18:48.679 --> 0:18:50.799 had so much shit at the start that it just 0:18:50.839 --> 0:18:51.759 got to a point where. 0:18:51.639 --> 0:18:54.599 I'm just like whatever, Like I honestly don't care. 0:18:55.079 --> 0:19:00.119 This is me, and I'm so over hiding who I 0:19:00.159 --> 0:19:02.399 am and what I want to do. You know. So 0:19:03.239 --> 0:19:05.159 as soon as I was like, yep, I have an 0:19:05.239 --> 0:19:08.639 only fan, I'm a sex worker, take it or leave it, 0:19:09.079 --> 0:19:11.559 I think I just became more like I just let 0:19:11.639 --> 0:19:14.919 go of caring so much about what other people thought 0:19:14.959 --> 0:19:18.599 to be because, like I guess, like especially me growing up, 0:19:18.759 --> 0:19:21.639 I was very much like a people pleaser and wanted 0:19:21.639 --> 0:19:23.799 to make sure everyone's like okay and happy. 0:19:24.479 --> 0:19:25.679 And then I. 0:19:25.639 --> 0:19:26.879 Just got to a point where I was just like 0:19:26.919 --> 0:19:30.119 I don't care, Like if I'm happy, like that's all 0:19:30.159 --> 0:19:32.679 that matters. And if people are not happy that I'm happy, 0:19:32.759 --> 0:19:34.559 well you probably don't want them in your life anyway. 0:19:34.799 --> 0:19:37.559 You've definitely learned like bring a sex worker, you. 0:19:37.519 --> 0:19:41.559 Learn people's true personalities. 0:19:40.799 --> 0:19:43.399 Like they come out and you know, if someone like 0:19:43.519 --> 0:19:46.119 doesn't like your of the hiding something, they will show 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.799 you their true colors. So it's a blessing in disguise 0:19:48.839 --> 0:19:49.479 in some ways. 0:19:49.679 --> 0:19:55.279 Do you think that with your knowledge of humanity now 0:19:56.799 --> 0:20:00.799 that it changes the way that you deal with like 0:20:00.879 --> 0:20:05.359 the entire world, the people that you meet socially. 0:20:06.799 --> 0:20:07.759 Oh yeah, definitely. 0:20:08.199 --> 0:20:13.439 I think, especially like males, I have become a master 0:20:13.679 --> 0:20:17.999 of identifying their personality. Probably within the first five seconds 0:20:18.039 --> 0:20:21.679 of meeting one, I know exactly what kind of person 0:20:21.719 --> 0:20:25.919 they are. So yeah, yeah, I think it's just made 0:20:25.959 --> 0:20:29.199 me because you're just meeting new people all the time 0:20:29.279 --> 0:20:33.279 and adapting it, Like you're processing all these different personalities, 0:20:33.639 --> 0:20:37.319 you get to really easily find out who someone is 0:20:37.479 --> 0:20:38.959 just by looking at them. 0:20:39.079 --> 0:20:41.039 Yeah, it's quite funny. It's like my little. 0:20:40.839 --> 0:20:45.479 Superpower now because I heard you say, and I think 0:20:45.479 --> 0:20:49.399 it was on your storytime pod that you probably won't 0:20:49.439 --> 0:20:54.719 have a relationship now until you finish with sex work. Yes, definitely, 0:20:54.759 --> 0:20:58.639 And I thought to myself, how can you control that? 0:20:59.519 --> 0:21:00.279 Do you know what I mean? 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.839 Like, how do you stop that pull to someone when 0:21:03.879 --> 0:21:05.439 you had that action to them? 0:21:05.479 --> 0:21:06.559 Are well, I. 0:21:06.519 --> 0:21:10.639 Guess I'm just not in the mindset of dating at 0:21:10.639 --> 0:21:14.639 the moment because throughout my life, I've always been in 0:21:14.639 --> 0:21:17.599 a relationship from the time I was like fourteen years 0:21:17.639 --> 0:21:21.839 old until up until I had kids. So I feel 0:21:21.839 --> 0:21:25.039 like I'm just in my era of wanting to make 0:21:25.079 --> 0:21:28.119 money and setting myself up to make money, and I 0:21:28.199 --> 0:21:30.799 know that if I get into a relationship, that's going 0:21:30.839 --> 0:21:34.359 to slow me down. I guess my mentality now is if, like, 0:21:35.559 --> 0:21:37.479 if I get into a relationship, it's just going to 0:21:37.519 --> 0:21:40.999 set me back in my career, in my money making because. 0:21:42.239 --> 0:21:43.719 Obviously, like I want. 0:21:43.519 --> 0:21:47.679 To be with a person who you know, is okay 0:21:47.759 --> 0:21:50.479 with me being a sex worker, But I also want 0:21:50.519 --> 0:21:52.999 to be with a person who doesn't want me to 0:21:53.039 --> 0:21:54.239 sleep with other men, you know. 0:21:54.439 --> 0:21:56.439 So I know that when I do become in. 0:21:56.439 --> 0:21:59.559 A relationship, yeah, I will have to stop being right 0:21:59.999 --> 0:22:04.199 yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. And now because if they are 0:22:04.239 --> 0:22:07.079 okay with me sleeping with other men, I feel like, 0:22:07.479 --> 0:22:11.879 either thou with me just for my name or money 0:22:12.239 --> 0:22:14.559 or that, or they really don't care about me or 0:22:14.599 --> 0:22:14.799 you know. 0:22:15.239 --> 0:22:16.919 So I want to be with someone. 0:22:16.639 --> 0:22:19.919 Who only wants you to be with them. 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:24.039 Yeah, yeah, I see a lot of sex workers go 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.399 throughout like relationships. 0:22:26.479 --> 0:22:27.599 It's very rare. 0:22:27.479 --> 0:22:30.359 That, like you know, they have like a guy who's 0:22:30.479 --> 0:22:34.679 okay with them sleeping with other people, because that's like 0:22:34.799 --> 0:22:37.599 not really not much a normal thing. When I eventually 0:22:38.519 --> 0:22:40.919 get into relationship, it's when I'm ready to settle down, 0:22:41.079 --> 0:22:43.839 and that's not that's not yet. I want to make 0:22:43.879 --> 0:22:46.559 my money and you know, set up my set up 0:22:46.559 --> 0:22:49.359 myself and then and then I can think about it. 0:22:49.879 --> 0:22:53.199 When you are attracted to someone, it's kind of a 0:22:53.239 --> 0:22:56.399 normal thing to be territorial about them. So what you're 0:22:56.439 --> 0:22:59.839 saying is a guy who was who'd be yeah, that's okay, 0:22:59.959 --> 0:23:02.959 keep up your sex work is not the person that 0:23:03.759 --> 0:23:04.479 you want to be. 0:23:05.399 --> 0:23:05.439 No. 0:23:06.879 --> 0:23:09.679 No, And I know that if. 0:23:09.679 --> 0:23:12.079 I get into a relationship now, that means I'm going 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:14.519 to have to stop my sex work and I'm not 0:23:14.559 --> 0:23:15.559 ready to do that yet. 0:23:15.799 --> 0:23:20.439 When you're reaping the rewards of what you've built and 0:23:20.599 --> 0:23:24.839 extending yourself in different ways, that's not a sexual pun. 0:23:25.239 --> 0:23:29.079 That's just you really are exploring different parts of yourself. 0:23:29.919 --> 0:23:34.199 How do you know when the point will be to stop? 0:23:34.679 --> 0:23:37.039 I feel like I will know when the time comes, 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.759 Like I have never planned anything throughout my entire life. 0:23:40.839 --> 0:23:42.639 So this is probably going to be one of those 0:23:42.679 --> 0:23:43.519 things where. 0:23:44.559 --> 0:23:47.799 I will keep making money. If I keep making money 0:23:47.879 --> 0:23:49.359 doing this, then I'm happy. But if it gets to 0:23:49.439 --> 0:23:52.399 a point where I don't make money anymore, then maybe. 0:23:52.239 --> 0:23:53.479 I'll settle down. 0:23:53.839 --> 0:23:56.999 But it's just that thing where like I feel like 0:23:57.919 --> 0:24:00.639 a lot of sex workers had said, like, you will 0:24:00.719 --> 0:24:03.399 know when you no longer want to be in the industry, 0:24:03.479 --> 0:24:06.359 Like you just there's something that just clicks inside you 0:24:06.439 --> 0:24:09.999 and you're just like, nah, I'm done. So I feel 0:24:09.999 --> 0:24:12.319 like I will have that turning point once I've burnt 0:24:12.319 --> 0:24:14.919 myself out, but hopefully I would have set myself up 0:24:15.039 --> 0:24:19.799 enough to, you know, be okay with stepping back. So yeah, 0:24:19.879 --> 0:24:21.959 I would just have to see when the time comes. 0:24:21.639 --> 0:24:25.359 Really, because if you're waiting for the money to dwindle, 0:24:26.559 --> 0:24:28.239 the money is never going to dwindle. 0:24:28.319 --> 0:24:31.119 For Kayla Jade, I mean. 0:24:30.959 --> 0:24:31.399 You never know. 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:33.839 But yeah, I mean I know, I know a lot 0:24:33.879 --> 0:24:36.839 of sex workers that are still making good money in 0:24:36.879 --> 0:24:41.359 their fifties, so fifties sixties, which is crazy, but I 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:44.919 feel like you just mentally, I might tap out before then. 0:24:44.999 --> 0:24:45.719 I just never know. 0:24:46.479 --> 0:24:49.799 Yeah, So it just depends on my mental health really 0:24:50.079 --> 0:24:51.479 whether I can keep doing it or not. 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.359 You know, you talk about your mental health a lot 0:24:54.599 --> 0:24:59.759 and happily talk about how it's improved. What is the 0:24:59.799 --> 0:25:02.919 toll that sex work takes on your mental health? 0:25:03.239 --> 0:25:06.719 I mean, it just it depends on the person, really, 0:25:06.839 --> 0:25:10.559 because if you're doing sex work and you feel any 0:25:10.559 --> 0:25:14.239 sort of shame about sex work, or you don't enjoy 0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:18.119 having sex and you're putting yourself and your body through 0:25:18.159 --> 0:25:22.079 these situations of meeting up with strangers and do it 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.279 having sex with them, like, that's going to fuck your 0:25:24.319 --> 0:25:24.959 mental health. 0:25:25.519 --> 0:25:27.039 So that's why I. 0:25:27.039 --> 0:25:30.039 Always tell girls, like, if you want to get into 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.119 sex work, like make sure you actually feel like you're 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:36.799 going to enjoy it. Try it out, because it's not 0:25:36.959 --> 0:25:41.319 for everyone and some people will just immediately get burnt out. 0:25:42.559 --> 0:25:45.239 But I feel like, because I've had I've dealt with 0:25:45.319 --> 0:25:48.879 a lot of things throughout my life, I felt like 0:25:48.959 --> 0:25:53.039 it's just made me a rocking away and really, I can, 0:25:53.919 --> 0:25:55.679 you know, do a lot of things that if I 0:25:55.719 --> 0:25:58.119 didn't go through that stuff, I probably wouldn't be ready for. 0:25:58.719 --> 0:26:01.439 You refer quite often to how your mental health has 0:26:01.519 --> 0:26:08.839 improved and the uptake in happiness is really apparent in you. 0:26:09.679 --> 0:26:11.399 How have you made that happen? 0:26:12.159 --> 0:26:17.039 I think just from having the time and freedom and 0:26:17.199 --> 0:26:22.279 money just to be my own boss. I never thought 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.399 growing up, like you know, I always struggled with school. 0:26:25.439 --> 0:26:28.879 I never thought that I would have a career where 0:26:28.879 --> 0:26:31.359 I could make money. So the fact that I'm here 0:26:31.439 --> 0:26:34.839 now and able to spend time with my kids and 0:26:35.559 --> 0:26:37.359 just have the freedom to be like, you know what, 0:26:37.559 --> 0:26:40.879 let's just go to Europe tomorrow, like I like, we 0:26:40.879 --> 0:26:45.279 need a break. Just having that freedom to spend time 0:26:45.319 --> 0:26:48.559 with them is just so rewarding and it just it 0:26:48.559 --> 0:26:50.199 gives me so much happiness. 0:26:50.239 --> 0:26:53.359 Like money is a big struggle. 0:26:53.559 --> 0:26:56.159 Like I've struggled with money throughout my whole life until 0:26:56.199 --> 0:26:58.839 I became a sex worker. I had duct tape covered 0:26:58.879 --> 0:27:01.359 all over my car because I couldn't afford a new car. 0:27:01.439 --> 0:27:04.759 You know, I've like lived paycheck to paycheck for like 0:27:04.999 --> 0:27:08.519 most of my life. So I know money struggles and 0:27:09.439 --> 0:27:13.359 not having money struggles now is just a huge relief. 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:18.639 Which is and money will buy you time as well. Yeah, 0:27:18.959 --> 0:27:22.879 and people who say money can't buy happiness have never 0:27:22.919 --> 0:27:23.519 been poor. 0:27:23.919 --> 0:27:29.559 Yea struggle and it will buy a little bit of happiness. 0:27:32.439 --> 0:27:37.119 Coming up, some A listers, some secrets, and an ironclad 0:27:37.559 --> 0:27:41.919 NDA that's a non disclosure agreement, which obviously means there's 0:27:41.959 --> 0:27:43.719 some really good stuff behind it. 0:27:44.319 --> 0:27:45.039 Be right back. 0:27:46.159 --> 0:27:53.799 Because you're an industry now, everything comes from you, there's 0:27:53.839 --> 0:27:58.639 a lot of pressure on you to keep going to reinvent. 0:27:59.639 --> 0:28:03.959 Do you sometimes feel like you're coming close to being 0:28:03.999 --> 0:28:07.439 burnt out or not wanting to go on or pivot 0:28:07.519 --> 0:28:08.679 into some other area. 0:28:09.679 --> 0:28:12.959 Yeah, I definitely do have times where I'm just have 0:28:13.239 --> 0:28:15.039 you know, a full mental b and I'm like, I'm 0:28:15.039 --> 0:28:15.759 fucking done. 0:28:15.839 --> 0:28:16.879 I'm doing something else. 0:28:17.479 --> 0:28:21.999 But I don't think I'll ever change being a sex 0:28:22.039 --> 0:28:24.879 oker like for now, because I just I love I 0:28:24.879 --> 0:28:28.159 do love what I do, and I love I love 0:28:28.239 --> 0:28:29.159 the freedom that it. 0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.559 Gives you to be able to change and adapt. 0:28:31.999 --> 0:28:33.719 So you know, if I was like, no, I'm done 0:28:33.759 --> 0:28:35.559 with in person, I don't want to do it anymore, 0:28:35.879 --> 0:28:38.319 you know, I have other avenues where I can go 0:28:38.399 --> 0:28:39.159 to now. 0:28:39.199 --> 0:28:43.519 I imagine that when you go to make people in person, 0:28:44.599 --> 0:28:48.559 that you've got a different status now. So it's almost like, 0:28:50.159 --> 0:28:53.319 you know, you getting the call ups from celebrities to 0:28:53.559 --> 0:28:54.999 you know, fly to La or whatever. 0:28:55.719 --> 0:28:57.599 Who wants that by the way, I know you're not 0:28:57.599 --> 0:28:59.639 going to do who was I mean. 0:29:01.839 --> 0:29:03.079 Unto NDA's I can't. 0:29:03.119 --> 0:29:06.719 Unfortunately, I feel like a lot of people with a 0:29:06.759 --> 0:29:07.079 lot of. 0:29:06.999 --> 0:29:09.079 People have guessed it. Let's just say that. 0:29:10.159 --> 0:29:11.519 Okay, I'm going to go and read it. 0:29:13.199 --> 0:29:15.959 But I had that, I guess, like before the TikTok 0:29:16.559 --> 0:29:20.199 you know, the celebs and stuff, So that was pretty 0:29:20.199 --> 0:29:23.239 normal to me. And like I guess, like when you 0:29:23.319 --> 0:29:26.279 meet them, you're like, oh, that's just like a normal person, 0:29:26.479 --> 0:29:27.359 Like it's so fine. 0:29:28.079 --> 0:29:31.879 Yes, But now my point is that now when people 0:29:32.159 --> 0:29:36.439 meet you, you are the celebrity to them. 0:29:35.919 --> 0:29:37.239 M gotcha, gotcha. 0:29:37.319 --> 0:29:38.959 So the regards that are, like I want to be 0:29:38.999 --> 0:29:43.119 with Kaylage, i'd get your status, your power in relation 0:29:43.239 --> 0:29:44.999 to them has shifted. 0:29:45.519 --> 0:29:49.879 Yeah, I guess so in some ways, I still feel normal, 0:29:49.999 --> 0:29:52.359 So I just feel my regular self. 0:29:53.039 --> 0:29:55.999 No, no, But what I mean is that if there 0:29:55.999 --> 0:30:00.679 are things that boundaries that you don't want cross, or 0:30:00.959 --> 0:30:04.039 things that you might find degrading or whatever, are they 0:30:04.159 --> 0:30:06.999 least like likely now to kind of try and breach 0:30:07.119 --> 0:30:09.199 that because they're with you. 0:30:09.959 --> 0:30:12.799 Yeah? Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, I've always been 0:30:12.839 --> 0:30:17.719 pretty strong in my boundaries, you know, obviously apart from 0:30:17.719 --> 0:30:20.119 it some circumstances. 0:30:19.399 --> 0:30:21.799 That were out of my control. But yeah, I would 0:30:21.839 --> 0:30:23.639 guess now that. 0:30:23.639 --> 0:30:26.239 I have a bigger name, people would be more careful of, 0:30:26.599 --> 0:30:31.479 you know, the way they interact around me. I guess before, 0:30:31.639 --> 0:30:34.439 you know, when I had like a small profile, you know, 0:30:34.439 --> 0:30:37.039 people probably thought they could take more advantage or things 0:30:37.119 --> 0:30:41.079 like that. But I've always been pretty careful with like 0:30:41.119 --> 0:30:43.199 where I put myself in situations. 0:30:43.919 --> 0:30:48.759 Are the situations you've been in where you've thought I 0:30:48.799 --> 0:30:49.519 don't want this. 0:30:50.879 --> 0:30:54.959 Yes, definitely, Yeah, And that's just you know, it's just 0:30:54.999 --> 0:30:55.759 a learning curve. 0:30:55.919 --> 0:30:59.759 Yeah, I've had situations where, yeah. 0:30:59.519 --> 0:31:04.039 I like, honestly like the the people have taken advantage 0:31:04.079 --> 0:31:04.799 of the situation. 0:31:05.399 --> 0:31:06.679 And that's the. 0:31:06.719 --> 0:31:11.479 Unfortunate thing about even only fans, is that anyone can 0:31:11.519 --> 0:31:14.999 become a creator, you know, and if they have their 0:31:14.999 --> 0:31:18.759 camera right, if they have like the setup, they can 0:31:18.879 --> 0:31:23.479 hire the big names. You know, they can create a platform, 0:31:23.519 --> 0:31:28.199 like a predator can easily create a platform. So I 0:31:28.199 --> 0:31:31.479 guess the biggest thing is just finding friends in the 0:31:31.479 --> 0:31:33.399 industry and checking references. 0:31:33.919 --> 0:31:34.959 That's the biggest thing. 0:31:35.319 --> 0:31:39.799 You know, your ex who you seem to have quite 0:31:39.839 --> 0:31:44.399 a harmonious relationship with and he's you've said the primary 0:31:44.559 --> 0:31:49.159 maybe that a care giver to the kids when you 0:31:49.439 --> 0:31:52.479 first started doing sex work, and obviously you're the mother 0:31:52.519 --> 0:31:56.239 of his kids. Was he a bit territorial about you then? 0:31:56.439 --> 0:32:00.079 Was he uncertain about the path? Was he worried about 0:32:00.119 --> 0:32:01.959 the kids, the effect on the kids. 0:32:02.359 --> 0:32:07.439 Yeah, he's a smart cookie. It's definitely discussing with me 0:32:07.559 --> 0:32:10.479 all sorts of you know, the issues, like where they 0:32:10.479 --> 0:32:11.279 could be issues. 0:32:12.159 --> 0:32:14.479 We talked about it a lot, but. 0:32:15.999 --> 0:32:18.639 Because we had both had we had kids very young, 0:32:19.359 --> 0:32:23.559 and from the get go we said that like if 0:32:23.559 --> 0:32:25.919 it wasn't gonna work out, we're just gonna you know, 0:32:26.039 --> 0:32:29.199 stick together, be like good friends for the kids, because 0:32:30.719 --> 0:32:32.599 we both love them so much that we could not 0:32:32.679 --> 0:32:35.319 do fifty to fifty. There's just like a no, no, 0:32:35.399 --> 0:32:37.679 we just want to all both have them full time. 0:32:37.839 --> 0:32:40.119 So we were like, we're going to stick this out 0:32:40.199 --> 0:32:44.239 whether we're together or not. And there was some like 0:32:44.359 --> 0:32:49.039 worries with him at the start, but I feel like, 0:32:49.239 --> 0:32:52.119 you know, he had faith with me, Like I feel 0:32:52.119 --> 0:32:53.879 like he knew that I would do well through this, 0:32:54.479 --> 0:32:56.879 So you know, he put the faith in me and 0:32:57.439 --> 0:33:01.039 it paid off because now he can just work for me. 0:33:01.039 --> 0:33:06.079 Which is great. I mean that's what he's. 0:33:05.919 --> 0:33:07.039 Always wanted to be, a straight. 0:33:06.919 --> 0:33:09.199 Home dad and like we made that life. 0:33:09.239 --> 0:33:12.239 So yeah, a lot of people don't, like they kind 0:33:12.279 --> 0:33:15.279 of questioned them, they like they don't understand the relationship. 0:33:15.319 --> 0:33:19.519 But it's like we're both just so chill that we 0:33:19.599 --> 0:33:22.119 just don't care, Like we're just we're just so happy 0:33:23.119 --> 0:33:25.919 being around. Like we don't fight. We're like we're not together. 0:33:26.719 --> 0:33:29.199 We we thought more when we were together, but now 0:33:29.239 --> 0:33:33.279 that that sort of pressure has gone, we just become 0:33:33.559 --> 0:33:34.799 close friends. 0:33:34.399 --> 0:33:36.679 And we're we work together well. 0:33:36.759 --> 0:33:39.359 Like, you know, if I ever have a situation where 0:33:39.399 --> 0:33:42.479 I'm like this thing happened and like I don't know 0:33:42.519 --> 0:33:45.159 what to do, and because I've had times where you know, 0:33:45.159 --> 0:33:47.719 I started sex work and you know, people have like 0:33:47.759 --> 0:33:50.399 owed me money and stuff, and like he's just always 0:33:50.439 --> 0:33:53.719 sort of it for me. It's just like he's a blessing. Yeah, 0:33:53.719 --> 0:33:55.199 I couldn't have done it without him. 0:33:55.239 --> 0:33:59.519 So and has he repartnered or is that a possibility 0:33:59.599 --> 0:34:01.359 for him not at. 0:34:01.279 --> 0:34:05.599 The stage, Yeah, we're both open, like he can go 0:34:05.759 --> 0:34:09.839 see whoever he wants or whatever. But we're just both 0:34:10.079 --> 0:34:11.719 at the time of our lives where we don't want 0:34:11.759 --> 0:34:15.399 a relationship, like we both have been in a lot. 0:34:15.279 --> 0:34:17.399 Of relationships throughout our lives. 0:34:17.079 --> 0:34:19.599 So we're just focused on the kids at the moment, 0:34:19.879 --> 0:34:20.079 you know. 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:25.199 And also, you know, speaking of being healthy, you've been 0:34:25.279 --> 0:34:29.119 very open about your BBL surgeries, both of them. Yes, 0:34:29.799 --> 0:34:36.239 one story is so horrific. It basically, hmmm, is how 0:34:36.319 --> 0:34:39.759 you nearly died, which I don't know if you realized 0:34:39.759 --> 0:34:42.559 it at the time, but listening to you tell it, 0:34:42.559 --> 0:34:44.519 it's like you could have died in Turkey. 0:34:45.399 --> 0:34:46.999 Oh yeah, Oh yeah. 0:34:47.079 --> 0:34:51.479 I went through everyone's worst nightmare of literally waking up 0:34:51.559 --> 0:34:55.119 on the operating table and while they're operating on me 0:34:55.839 --> 0:34:59.519 not being able to move, being paralyzed but feeling everything 0:35:00.479 --> 0:35:03.719 and just being just feeling the tears run down my 0:35:03.799 --> 0:35:05.479 face but not be able to do anything. 0:35:05.559 --> 0:35:06.999 It was terrific. 0:35:07.279 --> 0:35:12.839 Yeah, and every aspect of it it was botched. You 0:35:12.959 --> 0:35:16.599 had an encounterdown nurse that was he was groping you 0:35:16.679 --> 0:35:18.399 and trying to kiss you in the lift. 0:35:20.159 --> 0:35:20.999 They put you on. 0:35:20.919 --> 0:35:22.919 Your bum when you're not supposed to be on your 0:35:22.919 --> 0:35:24.039 bums straight after. 0:35:25.079 --> 0:35:26.679 Yes, yes, so it was. 0:35:27.079 --> 0:35:29.599 It was a time where I didn't have like I 0:35:29.879 --> 0:35:31.799 just sat her in the fans. I didn't have much money, 0:35:32.279 --> 0:35:34.559 and I'd heard that people were getting these BBOs in 0:35:34.599 --> 0:35:37.639 Turkey for like, you know, fifteen grand ten grands. I 0:35:37.679 --> 0:35:39.119 was like, oh my god, I'm going to do that. 0:35:39.919 --> 0:35:41.639 So my impulsive self. 0:35:41.559 --> 0:35:43.359 Booked that in. I found a place. 0:35:43.399 --> 0:35:45.759 We were talking on WhatsApp and they seemed great, like 0:35:45.799 --> 0:35:47.079 the English was incredible. 0:35:47.759 --> 0:35:48.759 I was sending them before and. 0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.679 After photos and they were like, yeah, you're such a 0:35:50.679 --> 0:35:53.159 good candidate. So I was like, Okay, I'm going to 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:57.199 do it and went over to Turkey and just immediately 0:35:57.799 --> 0:36:00.719 when they picked me up, like no one could speak English. 0:36:01.039 --> 0:36:02.399 I didn't know what was going on. 0:36:02.519 --> 0:36:04.439 Like they were taking me to all sorts of different 0:36:04.639 --> 0:36:08.279 hospitals and like could no one could tell me what 0:36:08.399 --> 0:36:08.999 was going on. 0:36:09.119 --> 0:36:10.159 Like they were trying to find. 0:36:09.999 --> 0:36:13.039 The doctor and they couldn't find him, and it was 0:36:13.079 --> 0:36:16.999 a mess. Eventually, when they did find the doctor, as 0:36:17.079 --> 0:36:18.679 soon as he saw me, he was like, oh, you 0:36:18.679 --> 0:36:20.999 don't have enough fat to get the surgery, and I was. 0:36:20.959 --> 0:36:22.959 Like, yes, I do. 0:36:23.279 --> 0:36:26.759 I have been like eating like five thousand calories a 0:36:26.839 --> 0:36:29.599 day for the past six months to gain weight for 0:36:29.639 --> 0:36:30.319 this BBL. 0:36:30.399 --> 0:36:31.959 I know I have enough fat. 0:36:32.119 --> 0:36:35.639 I've seen much skinnier girls get good bbls. 0:36:36.279 --> 0:36:38.319 So but I mean I was there. I was like, 0:36:38.359 --> 0:36:39.639 I'm gonna go with the surgery. 0:36:40.879 --> 0:36:44.519 So I went under and yeah, I woke up on 0:36:44.599 --> 0:36:45.559 the operating table. 0:36:46.279 --> 0:36:48.079 Could feel so they use. 0:36:48.039 --> 0:36:50.799 This like metal rod to like get because they take 0:36:50.839 --> 0:36:52.959 the fat out from like your stomach, your back and 0:36:52.999 --> 0:36:54.759 put it in your butt. 0:36:54.999 --> 0:36:57.039 I could just feel it getting sucked out of me. 0:36:57.159 --> 0:37:00.839 It was just like burning, like this fat getting sucked 0:37:00.839 --> 0:37:01.719 out of my stomach. 0:37:02.119 --> 0:37:02.999 It was nasty. 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.959 And then just a cup and I was just like 0:37:06.559 --> 0:37:12.119 vomiting blood like everything, Like my body was just malfunctioning, 0:37:12.199 --> 0:37:16.039 like it just wasn't coping with the stress it's been under. 0:37:17.039 --> 0:37:20.159 And yeah, but then you know, the next day, literally 0:37:21.159 --> 0:37:24.879 assaulted by a male nurse while I was getting changed, 0:37:24.919 --> 0:37:28.039 well he was getting he was changing me, and like 0:37:28.279 --> 0:37:32.239 in that like I think back to the state that 0:37:32.319 --> 0:37:35.879 I was in, Like while that was happening, I was 0:37:35.919 --> 0:37:37.319 not even a person Like. 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:37.799 I was not. 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.639 I wasn't like I couldn't talk, couldn't do anything. And 0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.439 that happened, and I'm just like, imagine what. 0:37:45.439 --> 0:37:48.559 Else this guy has put people through. And then like 0:37:48.639 --> 0:37:52.679 cause you wear like this compression suits. 0:37:52.359 --> 0:37:55.399 Because like, obviously your skin's just being ripped off the fat, 0:37:55.439 --> 0:37:57.519 so it needs to start to attach again. 0:37:57.599 --> 0:37:59.719 So you're wearing this compression suit. 0:38:00.279 --> 0:38:03.879 And you have to get these lymphatic drainage massages because 0:38:03.919 --> 0:38:05.599 you just well up so much. 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.559 So when I took the farh Off. 0:38:08.399 --> 0:38:11.159 Which is the suit, like I saw my body and 0:38:11.199 --> 0:38:15.919 I was like, it looks basically exactly the same. 0:38:16.559 --> 0:38:18.439 So it was like, oh, when I. 0:38:18.399 --> 0:38:21.439 Saw that surgeon, he was like, oh, you know you're 0:38:21.439 --> 0:38:22.919 not going to get the results you want. It was 0:38:22.919 --> 0:38:25.919 like he was just setting me up for me to 0:38:25.959 --> 0:38:28.239 be like, oh, well, he said that I wasn't going 0:38:28.279 --> 0:38:29.839 to get the result I wanted, So I guess this 0:38:29.879 --> 0:38:35.679 is it. And the fat that did like was that 0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:36.719 they did transfer. 0:38:37.079 --> 0:38:38.919 Within a couple of months, it was gone. 0:38:38.999 --> 0:38:42.599 Because if you take the fat out of your body 0:38:42.639 --> 0:38:44.719 and you don't purify it properly, they have to do 0:38:44.759 --> 0:38:48.559 this purifying process. If that isn't done properly, the fat's 0:38:48.599 --> 0:38:52.039 going to immediately die. And because they had I woken 0:38:52.119 --> 0:38:55.159 up on my bat my butt, sitting on my butt, 0:38:55.839 --> 0:38:57.479 that's going to kill the fat cells as well. So 0:38:57.479 --> 0:39:00.599 there was just no chance of survival. So yeah, within 0:39:00.639 --> 0:39:03.279 a few months I was back to back to my 0:39:03.319 --> 0:39:06.519 normal self, which was really frustrating. 0:39:06.679 --> 0:39:10.999 But a bit traumatized by the physical experience a little bit, 0:39:11.519 --> 0:39:14.999 a bit more traumatized, yes, yeah, and then you had 0:39:14.999 --> 0:39:17.519 a reconstructive Yeah. 0:39:17.559 --> 0:39:21.199 So I went to see an Australian surgeon like a 0:39:21.279 --> 0:39:24.399 year after to get it revised and he just said 0:39:24.479 --> 0:39:25.319 he just couldn't believe it. 0:39:25.359 --> 0:39:28.519 He looked at my back and he was like, they've literally. 0:39:28.079 --> 0:39:30.719 Taken just chunks of fat out of your back, Like 0:39:30.799 --> 0:39:34.919 this is crazy. So he went in and like fixed 0:39:34.959 --> 0:39:38.039 it up for me and made sure a result good. 0:39:38.039 --> 0:39:39.999 And then now I'm so happy with the results. 0:39:39.999 --> 0:39:45.199 So the experience of that, because you seem somewhat won 0:39:45.319 --> 0:39:48.159 with your body now and at ease with your body, 0:39:49.599 --> 0:39:52.919 was the experience of that part of that process. 0:39:53.519 --> 0:39:54.399 Oh yeah. 0:39:54.439 --> 0:39:56.959 I think back to when I got my BBL and 0:39:56.999 --> 0:40:02.279 I was still so unhappy, Like I was as soon 0:40:02.319 --> 0:40:05.439 as I got the BBL, I was like, what's my 0:40:05.519 --> 0:40:08.599 next surgery. It's like when you start having surgery, it 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:10.999 plays with your mind and then you start looking in 0:40:11.039 --> 0:40:12.679 the mirror and being like, oh, I could tweak that, 0:40:12.999 --> 0:40:15.159 I could tweak that, I could move this here. 0:40:15.479 --> 0:40:19.399 Like it just messes you up so much. 0:40:20.119 --> 0:40:23.839 And I think now like I'm the happiest that I've 0:40:23.879 --> 0:40:27.399 been and I don't think about surgery, I don't think 0:40:27.399 --> 0:40:30.639 about botox, I don't think about anything because I'm just 0:40:31.359 --> 0:40:33.879 so much happier. So I think for me, I just 0:40:33.959 --> 0:40:37.319 really needed to find my happiness and who I was, 0:40:37.399 --> 0:40:40.599 because I guess throughout my life, I was always being like, Okay, 0:40:40.639 --> 0:40:42.959 if I get a surgery, then I'll be happy, or 0:40:42.959 --> 0:40:46.159 if I have this eating disorder, then I'll be happy. 0:40:46.159 --> 0:40:48.479 Like I was always sort of masking it. And it 0:40:48.519 --> 0:40:51.279 wasn't until I, just like I guess, found my true 0:40:51.319 --> 0:40:54.839 self that I've sort of let that go and be like, 0:40:55.279 --> 0:40:57.879 you know, that's not the most important thing anymore. 0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.239 Yeah, that's the goal, isn't it. 0:41:00.519 --> 0:41:03.199 Yeah, But often people can get bulged in, like you said, 0:41:03.199 --> 0:41:05.959 that cycle of oh this will fix me and working 0:41:07.359 --> 0:41:09.719 externally and thinking, especially in. 0:41:09.639 --> 0:41:13.359 This industry, because you know, like you're around a lot 0:41:13.359 --> 0:41:15.719 of girls and all the girls are getting surgery. 0:41:15.759 --> 0:41:17.999 You know, they got money, they're getting surgery, they're. 0:41:17.879 --> 0:41:21.319 Getting this tweak because you're relying on your pearents for money. 0:41:21.879 --> 0:41:24.319 So as soon as you feel like something that needs 0:41:24.319 --> 0:41:27.719 to change. Your first thought is surgery because everyone around 0:41:27.759 --> 0:41:30.039 you is getting surgery and you're talking about it, and 0:41:31.279 --> 0:41:34.879 so yeah, I really needed to like step out of 0:41:34.919 --> 0:41:37.639 that sort of because I felt like I was just 0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.679 around girls that were like talking about this stuff and 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.839 it was just triggering that back in me. So I 0:41:43.919 --> 0:41:46.919 was just like, I need to take a step back 0:41:46.959 --> 0:41:49.719 from that and just you know, be around people who 0:41:50.999 --> 0:41:55.679 are not so like surgery focused and image focused. And 0:41:56.639 --> 0:41:59.719 now like, I found my girls in this industry and 0:41:59.759 --> 0:42:02.799 we're just like the best of friends and you know, 0:42:02.879 --> 0:42:04.279 we just love and support each other. 0:42:05.159 --> 0:42:07.639 Yeah, even though it's not like a big group. Now 0:42:07.639 --> 0:42:10.199 I've just found my people, and you know, I'm happy. 0:42:10.279 --> 0:42:15.679 So yeah, many industries, and probably more than some, there's 0:42:16.119 --> 0:42:18.799 people that don't always want the best for you, that 0:42:18.959 --> 0:42:23.559 may be motivated by envy or jealousy or competition. How 0:42:23.559 --> 0:42:26.559 did you find your girlies? 0:42:28.119 --> 0:42:28.839 Yeah, it just. 0:42:28.799 --> 0:42:33.599 Happened like naturally through because obviously when I started OnlyFans, 0:42:33.759 --> 0:42:37.119 I was collabing with a lot of girls, and I 0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:39.719 just found a couple that as soon as we met, 0:42:39.759 --> 0:42:43.839 we just clicked straight away, and then you know, I 0:42:43.879 --> 0:42:48.199 stopped really doing collabs and distanced myself from you know, 0:42:48.279 --> 0:42:50.599 some people in the industry, and I just stuck to 0:42:50.639 --> 0:42:54.279 my own and was like I'm happy here, and yeah. 0:42:53.839 --> 0:42:56.719 Hey, Kayla, what's a collab by the way, is it 0:42:56.839 --> 0:43:00.679 I imagined? Is it two of you or whatever having 0:43:00.839 --> 0:43:03.639 sex or doing a show or yeah. 0:43:03.679 --> 0:43:06.639 So you arranged you meet with like another content creator, 0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:08.199 and you set a date. 0:43:08.319 --> 0:43:10.759 You get like, you know, tester, you. 0:43:10.759 --> 0:43:14.999 Have to be tested STI tests within two weeks, You 0:43:15.079 --> 0:43:16.439 sign consent forms. 0:43:16.679 --> 0:43:18.679 There's like a lot of process to it. 0:43:19.279 --> 0:43:22.319 And then you meet up with them, whether it's at 0:43:22.399 --> 0:43:24.439 you know, a house or like a hotel or whatever, 0:43:24.919 --> 0:43:28.839 and you get socials so like you know, pictures or 0:43:28.879 --> 0:43:31.959 reels or tiktoks or whatever for the social media. 0:43:32.479 --> 0:43:35.559 And then yeah, you'll do a scene, which is whether it's. 0:43:35.519 --> 0:43:39.399 Girl girl, boy girl, it depends like whatever you're comfortable with. 0:43:39.479 --> 0:43:43.319 I guess, in the scale of what you've achieved so far, 0:43:43.959 --> 0:43:47.919 just if you're going to talk about the sex worker space. 0:43:48.999 --> 0:43:51.959 What do you still hope to achieve? 0:43:52.759 --> 0:43:57.519 M I guess because obviously now like a lot of 0:43:57.639 --> 0:44:01.119 brands are working with me as a sex worker, which 0:44:01.159 --> 0:44:03.359 is crazy because that's just like unheard of. 0:44:04.359 --> 0:44:06.559 Guess. For me, I would just love to either. 0:44:06.359 --> 0:44:10.999 Like create a product or like an organization to help 0:44:11.039 --> 0:44:14.399 people like I love giving back, Like my love language 0:44:14.439 --> 0:44:17.439 is giving, so I'm always like sending stuff to charity 0:44:17.599 --> 0:44:20.199 wherever I can. So I would just love to, yeah, 0:44:20.279 --> 0:44:24.319 sort of build something unrelated but related in a. 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.879 Way, and like in what sort of space. 0:44:27.079 --> 0:44:30.319 Depends really we'll see it when it. 0:44:30.319 --> 0:44:32.679 Comes in the sex workers space or. 0:44:33.399 --> 0:44:36.159 Yeah, I guess like either you know, making a product 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:41.119 that you know help like survival sex workers or something. Yeah, 0:44:41.119 --> 0:44:43.119 I would love to do something like that in the future. 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.599 But for me, like sex work will just always be 0:44:46.679 --> 0:44:49.039 sex work. It will either be will either be more 0:44:49.079 --> 0:44:52.319 online or I'll be more on person. So just really 0:44:52.359 --> 0:44:53.239 depends on my mood. 0:44:57.799 --> 0:45:01.359 After the break, the moment we have all been waiting 0:45:01.439 --> 0:45:04.039 for who is and. 0:45:03.959 --> 0:45:06.959 Who is and Peggy sou. 0:45:09.399 --> 0:45:12.359 We talked about the importance of the financial freedom and stuff. 0:45:14.039 --> 0:45:15.999 But when you were talking before, it occurred to me 0:45:16.079 --> 0:45:21.079 that there's a possibly another aspect to it. How that 0:45:21.599 --> 0:45:23.599 in the work that you do, there's like a lot 0:45:23.599 --> 0:45:29.519 of validation, like a lot of physical validation. When you 0:45:29.639 --> 0:45:33.839 want to move away from that and into you know, 0:45:34.279 --> 0:45:37.359 having a romantic partner, which he said is not you 0:45:37.399 --> 0:45:38.999 can't do it at the same time as sex work 0:45:39.079 --> 0:45:39.759 or you don't want to. 0:45:40.519 --> 0:45:42.239 How do you know that you won't be. 0:45:42.279 --> 0:45:44.959 Hooked on that, because a lot of people would be 0:45:44.959 --> 0:45:46.079 hooked on the compliments. 0:45:46.519 --> 0:45:48.919 Yeah. Well, I guess it's like the you know, surgery 0:45:48.959 --> 0:45:51.919 thing in a way, like you sort of learn. Well, 0:45:51.959 --> 0:45:54.439 I know that I've learned, like throughout my time to 0:45:54.519 --> 0:45:57.999 love myself more, and now that I have that sort 0:45:58.039 --> 0:46:01.919 of love for myself, like I don't necessarily rely on. 0:46:01.879 --> 0:46:05.639 The validation anymore, whereas I used to rely so much. 0:46:06.359 --> 0:46:07.879 But now I feel like I'm just in a point 0:46:07.879 --> 0:46:08.959 in my life where. 0:46:09.399 --> 0:46:11.439 I could take it or leave it if it all 0:46:11.559 --> 0:46:12.159 ended tomorrow. 0:46:12.359 --> 0:46:14.959 Like I would be okay with that, you know, as 0:46:14.999 --> 0:46:17.119 long as I've set myself up enough. 0:46:17.999 --> 0:46:19.839 Yeah, I wouldn't really rely on it anymore. 0:46:20.159 --> 0:46:22.799 But it's not something that I'm like, oh, I did this, 0:46:22.919 --> 0:46:24.839 and this is why I changed. 0:46:24.879 --> 0:46:24.959 It. 0:46:25.119 --> 0:46:29.119 Just sort of adapted over time, And I guess as 0:46:29.159 --> 0:46:32.039 I got older and as I sort of realized like 0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.559 the relationships around me, you know, care more to me, 0:46:35.919 --> 0:46:36.679 like than. 0:46:38.559 --> 0:46:41.879 You know, the online stuff or whatever. I think. Yeah, 0:46:41.879 --> 0:46:43.799 I think I just changed over time. 0:46:44.479 --> 0:46:46.199 Was Peggy Sue paid a Dunton? 0:46:49.439 --> 0:46:52.199 I can neither confirm with Deny now, No, he wasn't. 0:46:52.399 --> 0:46:56.919 He wasn't. That was ever ran into. 0:46:57.319 --> 0:46:58.199 I don't want to get to it. 0:46:58.359 --> 0:47:02.879 So random, it's so random, and yet in a really 0:47:03.039 --> 0:47:07.199 strange sort of way, I think it played a part 0:47:07.399 --> 0:47:09.519 in affecting the outcome of an election. 0:47:10.999 --> 0:47:14.359 Yeah, that's crazy. 0:47:14.199 --> 0:47:19.119 Sorry about that, Peter Daddat, But yeah, I know it's 0:47:19.159 --> 0:47:19.879 so bizarre. 0:47:20.039 --> 0:47:23.279 It really, it's just something that it blew up beyond me. 0:47:23.599 --> 0:47:26.439 Like people were talking about the Peggy Sue thing, they 0:47:26.439 --> 0:47:27.639 had no idea who I was. 0:47:27.919 --> 0:47:29.959 You know, it just blew up in its entity. 0:47:30.159 --> 0:47:34.039 Like, but I didn't like a single comment, like because 0:47:34.079 --> 0:47:36.759 you know, I didn't want to step on anyone's toes. 0:47:36.799 --> 0:47:40.159 I didn't want to get taken down because you know. 0:47:41.479 --> 0:47:44.959 If you like, if you were influencing something, they can 0:47:44.999 --> 0:47:48.679 easily you know, send you a season desist or try 0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:50.279 and take down your accounts or something. 0:47:50.399 --> 0:47:53.479 So it was such a strange thing to take flight. 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:57.639 So for people who don't know, can you explain who 0:47:57.719 --> 0:47:58.679 Peggy Sue is? 0:47:59.039 --> 0:48:01.439 Yeah, So Peggy Sue's a client of mine who likes 0:48:01.479 --> 0:48:04.639 to get pegged in the butt, which is you know, 0:48:04.999 --> 0:48:07.399 me putting a strap on, pegging him in the butt. 0:48:08.079 --> 0:48:09.719 And I just started calling him that because I thought 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:11.559 it was a funny name for it. It's not like 0:48:11.599 --> 0:48:13.639 I call him that like when I see him. He 0:48:13.799 --> 0:48:15.039 was just like the name. 0:48:17.799 --> 0:48:19.839 Does he know you call it? Does he know you 0:48:19.879 --> 0:48:20.999 call him Peggy Suit? 0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:22.239 Oh yeah, he knows. 0:48:22.319 --> 0:48:25.919 He religiously sorks my TikTok every time we talk about it, 0:48:26.439 --> 0:48:30.279 because he loves like reading comments of people talking about him, 0:48:30.359 --> 0:48:33.159 like he loved it when like the Peter Dunnan thing blew. 0:48:33.039 --> 0:48:34.799 Up, like he just loved that. He was just like 0:48:34.879 --> 0:48:38.439 this internet personality, right, Yeah, he likes a lot of 0:48:39.839 --> 0:48:40.279 you know. 0:48:40.559 --> 0:48:45.119 Large members and his behind and I would talk about 0:48:45.119 --> 0:48:46.959 it on the internet. I would talk about our dates 0:48:46.959 --> 0:48:50.039 together and you know what I was going to rear 0:48:50.159 --> 0:48:54.039 end him with next, I guess, And yeah, just it 0:48:54.079 --> 0:48:57.119 blew up completely, Like every time I talked about him, 0:48:57.839 --> 0:48:58.799 people love to hear it. 0:48:58.959 --> 0:49:03.119 So yeah, and is he okay? So I know that 0:49:03.199 --> 0:49:07.319 you protect the confidence reality of your clients obviously respect, 0:49:08.079 --> 0:49:10.839 but tell us who Peggy su is not? 0:49:11.879 --> 0:49:12.599 Can you do that? 0:49:13.599 --> 0:49:13.679 Like? 0:49:13.879 --> 0:49:17.159 Is he not? He's not a public profile figure. 0:49:17.559 --> 0:49:20.879 He's no, Like a lot of people were guessing, like 0:49:20.999 --> 0:49:23.279 trying to guess who he was, And I. 0:49:23.159 --> 0:49:25.279 Think if I said who he. 0:49:25.519 --> 0:49:30.359 Was, I don't know if people would be happy or disappointed, 0:49:31.359 --> 0:49:36.799 so like, even though obviously well not disappointed, but I 0:49:36.799 --> 0:49:38.839 guess just like, oh, they had this idea of who 0:49:38.839 --> 0:49:43.119 he is in their head, and you know, he's high 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:45.399 up in his industry, but I wouldn't say he's like 0:49:45.999 --> 0:49:49.959 a personality, So in his industry it would be a 0:49:49.999 --> 0:49:53.999 shock factor, but not so much like in everyone's, like 0:49:54.079 --> 0:49:55.519 you know, in celebrity culture. 0:49:55.599 --> 0:49:56.359 I guess. 0:49:58.519 --> 0:50:01.839 We'll definitely not definitely not Peter Dutton. 0:50:03.079 --> 0:50:06.359 No, I can, I can say now, Nope, done it. 0:50:06.639 --> 0:50:11.359 It's funny though, because he got interviewed by two radio 0:50:11.519 --> 0:50:15.239 show hosts and they asked him if he was Peggy 0:50:15.279 --> 0:50:16.919 Sue and he didn't deny her. 0:50:17.119 --> 0:50:20.119 I was like, would he have even known? 0:50:20.559 --> 0:50:21.159 Yeah he did. 0:50:21.279 --> 0:50:23.799 He was like, oh yeah, I've heard about it because 0:50:23.839 --> 0:50:27.199 everyone was just blasting his comments all on social media. 0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:30.079 Are you Peggy zo? Are you Peggy Zoo? So yeah, 0:50:30.399 --> 0:50:30.959 I like. 0:50:31.359 --> 0:50:34.239 Some poor intern, probably some more young intern probably had 0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.359 to tell him like what was going on? 0:50:37.039 --> 0:50:39.079 But yeah, they asked him, and he never denied it. 0:50:39.159 --> 0:50:41.079 I was like, are you serious? 0:50:42.999 --> 0:50:45.959 Maybe he wanted to be, maybe he isn't, Maybe he's 0:50:45.999 --> 0:50:46.759 another sex worker. 0:50:46.799 --> 0:50:47.159 I don't know. 0:50:48.039 --> 0:50:51.159 Politicians are very pole driven and whatever they think is 0:50:51.199 --> 0:50:54.559 going to work with the electorate, they'll lean into it. 0:50:54.919 --> 0:50:58.599 Yeah. Well, unfortunately I think that didn't work in his favor. 0:50:58.759 --> 0:51:00.279 So no, it didn't appear too. 0:51:01.079 --> 0:51:02.399 I'm happy with that regardless. 0:51:03.839 --> 0:51:10.079 In this spirit of your openness, Kayla, they surely has 0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:13.599 been a post or a story you've recounted or whatever 0:51:13.639 --> 0:51:16.479 that has still given you cause for regret. 0:51:17.039 --> 0:51:20.639 Ah, I want to say regrets. 0:51:20.839 --> 0:51:25.639 I think I'm very careful with what I do post 0:51:25.759 --> 0:51:28.519 to not try and like step on anyone's toes. 0:51:28.679 --> 0:51:30.839 You know, if I did say a story. 0:51:30.439 --> 0:51:34.879 That was about a client, like I always make sure 0:51:34.919 --> 0:51:36.399 that i'm I. 0:51:36.359 --> 0:51:38.359 Know that if I'm going to post it, is this 0:51:38.479 --> 0:51:40.759 going to cause me drama or is this going to 0:51:40.799 --> 0:51:43.439 be because obviously I talk about a lot. 0:51:43.479 --> 0:51:47.399 I talk about sexual assault from you know, either content 0:51:47.439 --> 0:51:52.479 creators or photographers that I've had, and I blast them 0:51:52.799 --> 0:51:55.039 and like, oh, will only blast you if you're doing 0:51:55.079 --> 0:51:59.399 the wrong thing, which I've had, like people contact me 0:51:59.559 --> 0:52:03.959 because I have talked about those situations, and I don't 0:52:03.959 --> 0:52:04.839 feel regrets. 0:52:04.639 --> 0:52:08.039 Because if you're going to do something bad, the world should. 0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:10.439 Know, you know what I mean, what did they contact 0:52:10.479 --> 0:52:10.799 you with? 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:15.879 I guess like there was one time where I talked 0:52:15.879 --> 0:52:20.719 about a very uncomfortable situation that I had with a photographer. 0:52:20.559 --> 0:52:21.599 Who had booked me. 0:52:22.799 --> 0:52:25.399 So he was a photographer, but he didn't tell me 0:52:25.439 --> 0:52:28.919 he was a photographer. He had booked me for an 0:52:28.919 --> 0:52:32.079 in person job. And then he just he told me 0:52:32.119 --> 0:52:35.359 how much he, you know, really liked me, and how 0:52:35.399 --> 0:52:37.519 he's been trying to get in contact me with me 0:52:37.599 --> 0:52:41.439 through his photography page, and and just like he was 0:52:41.519 --> 0:52:44.679 just asking if I could do things like that was 0:52:44.759 --> 0:52:50.479 just not discuss prior. So I talked about that, and 0:52:50.559 --> 0:52:54.279 you know, he got upset that I talked about it, 0:52:54.359 --> 0:52:57.879 and yeah, is what it is. But like, I don't 0:52:57.919 --> 0:53:00.639 think there's anything that I regret because I'm very careful 0:53:00.679 --> 0:53:05.279 with what I talk about and I'm like very strong. 0:53:04.999 --> 0:53:06.239 In my morals and my values. 0:53:06.399 --> 0:53:09.599 So I think I did get I did get canceled 0:53:09.599 --> 0:53:11.199 for hanging out with Drake though. 0:53:11.759 --> 0:53:15.479 You posted, oh Drake. 0:53:16.999 --> 0:53:21.199 Yeah I did. People didn't like that, but I guess 0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.439 like I just didn't know. 0:53:25.159 --> 0:53:28.719 His he really had allegations, Like I knew about the 0:53:28.799 --> 0:53:31.399 song with Kenjit Lamar, but I wasn't very aware of 0:53:31.519 --> 0:53:34.079 like what had actually been going on. 0:53:35.039 --> 0:53:37.559 I had just invited. I just got invited to go 0:53:37.599 --> 0:53:39.599 to dinner with him, and then. 0:53:40.119 --> 0:53:42.359 I posted about it because he didn't make me sign 0:53:42.399 --> 0:53:45.839 an NDA, so I posted about it and it blew 0:53:45.999 --> 0:53:51.319 up and people got pretty up in arms about the 0:53:51.359 --> 0:53:54.479 fact that I hung out with him, and he eventually 0:53:54.519 --> 0:53:56.879 told me to take down the post. 0:53:57.519 --> 0:53:59.879 Did he he had a lot of hate. 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.759 Yeah, he was like, hey, yeah, can you take these down? 0:54:03.919 --> 0:54:06.079 Because he had a lot of heat in the media, 0:54:06.639 --> 0:54:09.719 and I guess this was just giving more attention to it. 0:54:09.879 --> 0:54:14.359 So yeah, I ended up deleting the whole thing, And yeah, 0:54:14.479 --> 0:54:15.759 that was that was a tricky time. 0:54:15.959 --> 0:54:18.319 There was tricky time. Like I wouldn't say I regret that. 0:54:18.439 --> 0:54:20.519 I wouldn't if I could take it back, I don't 0:54:20.519 --> 0:54:23.079 think I would, because it's a learning curve and you know, 0:54:23.759 --> 0:54:27.919 like people make mistakes, Like I'm a human being, Like 0:54:28.559 --> 0:54:32.119 shit happens, you know. At the time, I was like 0:54:32.279 --> 0:54:36.119 stressed about that situation, but that's what a lot of 0:54:36.159 --> 0:54:38.959 people were telling me. Look, these like anyone would take 0:54:38.999 --> 0:54:42.159 up that opportunity, And for me, it wasn't necessarily just 0:54:42.199 --> 0:54:45.639 about hanging out with Drake. It's about, like, I say 0:54:45.759 --> 0:54:49.959 yes to those opportunities because the amount of people that 0:54:49.999 --> 0:54:53.319 I meet through that is just incredible and it just 0:54:53.359 --> 0:54:57.439 gives me so many opportunities. So I guess in my head, 0:54:57.519 --> 0:55:00.279 i just had my sex worker money brain locked in. 0:55:00.319 --> 0:55:01.719 I'm like, this is going to do well for me, 0:55:01.799 --> 0:55:03.839 so I'm going to do not really. 0:55:03.599 --> 0:55:07.519 Thinking about, you know, the consequences. So yeah, it was 0:55:07.519 --> 0:55:08.239 a learning curve. 0:55:08.599 --> 0:55:14.159 Life is a learning curve exactly, learning every day when 0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:17.799 your kids and your kids are at school, Now, is 0:55:17.839 --> 0:55:19.399 it a consideration for. 0:55:19.399 --> 0:55:24.839 You how you I mean, kids only ever know the life. 0:55:24.679 --> 0:55:28.239 They live anyway, and they only know their parents as 0:55:28.279 --> 0:55:31.999 their mum or their dad. But is it a consideration 0:55:32.279 --> 0:55:35.879 for you as they're getting older, how you're going to 0:55:35.959 --> 0:55:40.479 navigate school other kids, other parents. 0:55:40.759 --> 0:55:45.479 Yeah, well, I think we've always been super open with 0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:49.039 the kids about obviously to what they can handle for 0:55:49.079 --> 0:55:53.879 their age. But like we've never had an issue so far. 0:55:54.079 --> 0:55:56.599 Like a lot of the parents at my kids' school 0:55:56.919 --> 0:55:58.519 love me and come up to me and want to 0:55:58.519 --> 0:56:02.159 talk to me and want to hang out. Of course, 0:56:02.199 --> 0:56:06.959 there's going to be you know, with anything like there 0:56:06.999 --> 0:56:09.559 could be a risk of you know, kids saying something, 0:56:10.439 --> 0:56:13.879 But I don't think they're going to necessarily like look 0:56:13.919 --> 0:56:15.999 back at their life and think like this was a 0:56:15.999 --> 0:56:22.039 horrible life, because like, you know, both their parents just 0:56:22.079 --> 0:56:26.319 spend so much time with them, and we're so open 0:56:26.359 --> 0:56:30.959 with them, and we teach them like kindness and empathy, 0:56:31.159 --> 0:56:36.199 and they are the kindest, like most caring, amazing kids either. Ever, 0:56:36.919 --> 0:56:40.719 So I think like people should stop worrying about what 0:56:40.879 --> 0:56:44.439 I teach my kids and maybe try and worry about 0:56:44.439 --> 0:56:47.079 what they're teaching their kids, you know, teach your kids 0:56:47.079 --> 0:56:48.399 to be less judgmental. 0:56:48.519 --> 0:56:52.079 And I think as well, like sex. 0:56:51.799 --> 0:56:55.399 Work is just becoming such a normal thing now. There's 0:56:55.479 --> 0:56:58.999 so much less stigma behind it that I think as 0:56:58.999 --> 0:57:02.039 they get older, it's going to be much more normal 0:57:02.439 --> 0:57:04.439 than what it was ten years ago. 0:57:04.639 --> 0:57:04.839 You know. 0:57:05.799 --> 0:57:08.199 I think a lot of people are becoming more open minded, 0:57:08.319 --> 0:57:10.759 and I think with my TikTok, it's been great to 0:57:10.839 --> 0:57:14.799 sort of destigmatize, like because I'll tell my stories and 0:57:14.879 --> 0:57:19.079 people are loving and accepting of it, Whereas before, like 0:57:19.519 --> 0:57:21.359 you know, sex work was such a taboo thing. 0:57:21.519 --> 0:57:23.679 So I think just the world is. 0:57:23.679 --> 0:57:28.519 Changing in a great way and treating sex workers more 0:57:28.599 --> 0:57:31.519 like normal people and not like a threat or whatever. 0:57:31.679 --> 0:57:35.639 So yeah, it's changing for the best. And like they 0:57:35.679 --> 0:57:39.919 have a great life. They're such happy, happy kids, and 0:57:40.399 --> 0:57:42.519 they have a lot of friends around them, a lot 0:57:42.559 --> 0:57:44.679 of support from parents and teachers. 0:57:44.759 --> 0:57:49.719 So yeah, do you have a little dream, even though 0:57:50.599 --> 0:57:52.919 you know you very much to go with the flow, person, 0:57:54.799 --> 0:57:57.439 do you have a dream that you would like to 0:57:57.519 --> 0:58:02.399 see come to fulfillment, even if it seems, you know, 0:58:02.479 --> 0:58:04.119 the most far fetched thing in the world. 0:58:04.959 --> 0:58:09.359 I guess just you know, being able to like. 0:58:10.999 --> 0:58:15.119 Buy my kids a house each would be incredible because 0:58:15.199 --> 0:58:16.959 you know, we live in a time now where it's 0:58:16.999 --> 0:58:21.359 becoming impossible for that generation to buy a house. So 0:58:22.119 --> 0:58:24.399 I would love to just set them up as much 0:58:24.399 --> 0:58:27.479 as I can. And a dream of mine was to 0:58:27.519 --> 0:58:29.559 move into the country. 0:58:29.679 --> 0:58:31.199 And now done that. 0:58:31.919 --> 0:58:33.439 Where do you see yourself? 0:58:33.479 --> 0:58:36.359 Do you think, so, now you've got the country, you've 0:58:36.359 --> 0:58:41.439 got the country homestead, where do you think ten years' 0:58:41.519 --> 0:58:42.879 time will find you? 0:58:43.119 --> 0:58:46.639 I mean, would I could have never predicted five years 0:58:46.639 --> 0:58:50.639 ago where I would be now, So I think I've 0:58:50.719 --> 0:58:53.519 never planned anything and I think that's always worked out 0:58:53.559 --> 0:58:56.359 in my favor. So I'm just happy to go with 0:58:56.399 --> 0:58:58.599 the flow and see where it takes me. You know, 0:58:58.599 --> 0:59:00.759 if it does well, does well, if it doesn't, I'm 0:59:01.039 --> 0:59:02.439 happy with the time that I've had. 0:59:02.519 --> 0:59:06.719 So yeah, I can't imagine that it won't go well. 0:59:07.399 --> 0:59:10.919 And every time you speak futuristically you kind of say that, 0:59:11.599 --> 0:59:16.279 but surely by now you can go if I put 0:59:16.279 --> 0:59:20.639 my mind to something and I have my integrity behind it, oh, 0:59:20.759 --> 0:59:21.679 it's going to go well. 0:59:22.039 --> 0:59:23.399 Definitely, Definitely. 0:59:24.399 --> 0:59:26.599 I hope it does. I believe it will. 0:59:26.799 --> 0:59:28.679 I don't even know what to say when someone asks 0:59:28.679 --> 0:59:30.199 me that, I'm like, ah, I don't know. 0:59:30.479 --> 0:59:33.239 We'll see what happens in the future, I guess. But yeah, 0:59:33.279 --> 0:59:35.679 at the moment, I'm happy, and that's all the manness. 0:59:36.639 --> 0:59:42.759 I hope very much for your continued happiness and keep 0:59:42.799 --> 0:59:46.839 telling your stories because your stories are incredible. 0:59:47.999 --> 0:59:50.199 I love telling them, you know, it comes naturally to me. 0:59:50.359 --> 0:59:54.079 So, yeah, do you have any stories that you haven't 0:59:54.079 --> 0:59:54.959 told before? 0:59:57.759 --> 1:00:00.159 Yeah, like there's been a lot, Like a lot of 1:00:00.159 --> 1:00:04.119 the time I'll just have I'll see regular clients that 1:00:04.159 --> 1:00:08.799 I don't talk about because you know, there's. 1:00:08.879 --> 1:00:09.639 Not much to say. 1:00:10.119 --> 1:00:12.759 But then I've also had a couple of celebrity times 1:00:12.799 --> 1:00:14.039 where I haven't talked about yet. 1:00:14.519 --> 1:00:17.919 When you say yet, does that mean I have a I. 1:00:18.479 --> 1:00:23.639 Did a story about the A lister who I saw 1:00:25.079 --> 1:00:29.239 who flew me halfway across the world in La No, 1:00:29.559 --> 1:00:32.679 So it was in another place that I've said the 1:00:32.719 --> 1:00:35.799 first part and I haven't said the second part yet, 1:00:35.919 --> 1:00:39.679 So I think I'm going to have to introduce that soon. 1:00:40.359 --> 1:00:42.359 All right, can you give me a little teaser? 1:00:43.439 --> 1:00:49.119 So the first time I saw him, it was full 1:00:49.199 --> 1:00:51.399 on sex, parties. 1:00:51.319 --> 1:00:56.279 Orgies, a lot of intense stuff. 1:00:57.519 --> 1:01:01.839 And the second time it was actually like the first 1:01:01.839 --> 1:01:03.959 time was great, Like we were at this like. 1:01:05.879 --> 1:01:08.159 I was living out there like callous for a week. 1:01:08.519 --> 1:01:11.359 And there were you know, you'd come every day and 1:01:11.399 --> 1:01:13.519 there would just be new things every day, Like I 1:01:13.559 --> 1:01:15.199 would be lying by the pool and there's like a 1:01:15.599 --> 1:01:19.439 sketch artist sketching me. And it was just a lot 1:01:19.439 --> 1:01:22.039 of party, a lot of meeting celebrities. 1:01:22.599 --> 1:01:23.639 It's crazy shit. 1:01:24.559 --> 1:01:28.319 But then he invited me a second time and it 1:01:28.439 --> 1:01:33.959 got a bit intens it got very possessive. He became 1:01:33.999 --> 1:01:36.079 a little bit obsessed. 1:01:36.199 --> 1:01:39.279 Right, Okay, Because you said when you told the first 1:01:39.319 --> 1:01:43.559 part that when you came back the second time, he 1:01:43.719 --> 1:01:47.279 was very different, but you didn't say in which way 1:01:47.399 --> 1:01:50.039 he was different, So he became obsessed with you. 1:01:50.439 --> 1:01:50.799 Yeah. 1:01:50.879 --> 1:01:57.679 So so the first time I saw him, he was 1:01:57.759 --> 1:02:03.159 with his partner and that was great. But the second 1:02:03.199 --> 1:02:05.519 time I rocked up and I thought it was going 1:02:05.599 --> 1:02:08.479 to be the same thing, and his partner wasn't there, 1:02:08.559 --> 1:02:11.439 and it was very It was a very different. 1:02:11.519 --> 1:02:13.799 It was like split personality. 1:02:14.399 --> 1:02:19.519 So yeah, and then how did the obsession manifest? 1:02:20.879 --> 1:02:24.519 Just just messaging me and like when I wanted to go, 1:02:24.759 --> 1:02:26.279 he would just bombard me. 1:02:27.039 --> 1:02:27.359 You know. 1:02:28.879 --> 1:02:32.799 It was just a very different experience to the first one. 1:02:33.999 --> 1:02:38.239 And did you feel like because you were physically in 1:02:38.319 --> 1:02:42.119 another place and not at home, did you feel like 1:02:42.239 --> 1:02:44.879 you would have trouble getting away? 1:02:45.479 --> 1:02:47.799 There were times where I was a little bit worried. Yeah, 1:02:48.759 --> 1:02:52.679 especially when I was like there with him, I was. 1:02:53.359 --> 1:02:56.559 I was worried, but we got away safe and sound. 1:02:56.679 --> 1:02:59.919 So yeah, everything's a learning curve. 1:03:00.879 --> 1:03:05.719 Everything, he's a learning curve. And Jade, you have been 1:03:05.759 --> 1:03:09.119 instrumental in teaching people a lot of things. 1:03:09.479 --> 1:03:09.879 Thank you. 1:03:10.359 --> 1:03:10.599 Yeah. 1:03:10.919 --> 1:03:13.119 I meet women every day who come up to me 1:03:13.159 --> 1:03:16.159 and are just like, you know, tell me how like 1:03:16.199 --> 1:03:18.439 my own videos have helped them or something, And I'm 1:03:18.479 --> 1:03:20.799 just like that just makes me so happy. Like if 1:03:20.839 --> 1:03:23.759 I can make someone's day just by you know, giving 1:03:23.759 --> 1:03:26.679 them a little something to look forward to, like, that's 1:03:26.679 --> 1:03:27.199 the best thing. 1:03:27.399 --> 1:03:29.519 Hey. Can I ask you one final question? 1:03:31.279 --> 1:03:36.999 Do you think that sex has a spiritual component to 1:03:37.039 --> 1:03:39.119 it as well as the physical? 1:03:39.919 --> 1:03:42.879 Like do you mean like a connection with someone? Yeah? 1:03:43.439 --> 1:03:43.839 Like that. 1:03:44.119 --> 1:03:48.639 Yeah, you know how different people can vibrate at different 1:03:48.999 --> 1:03:53.719 sort of levels and these base vibrations where people are like, oh, that's. 1:03:53.599 --> 1:03:54.479 A bad vibe. 1:03:55.039 --> 1:03:58.679 And a union of two people sexually who are connected 1:03:58.719 --> 1:04:01.399 and whatever vibrates at a high level. 1:04:01.839 --> 1:04:04.479 Do you believe that? 1:04:05.319 --> 1:04:08.199 I mean I don't believe that in a way. Like 1:04:08.439 --> 1:04:10.999 with my work, probably not so much. But if I 1:04:11.119 --> 1:04:13.439 was to see like a partner or someone who I 1:04:13.519 --> 1:04:16.279 was like really vibing, then one thousand percent. 1:04:16.519 --> 1:04:16.799 Yeah. 1:04:17.599 --> 1:04:23.599 But with my sex work, it's like it's work. Literally, 1:04:24.759 --> 1:04:28.519 you know, no connection there, no connection there. I mean 1:04:28.599 --> 1:04:32.599 I probably shouldn't say that connections sometimes. 1:04:32.599 --> 1:04:34.759 Oh, there'll be people with hurt feelings. 1:04:35.719 --> 1:04:38.799 I'm like, you know, this is a business transaction, and 1:04:38.959 --> 1:04:41.199 that's what I'm going to treat it as you know, 1:04:42.119 --> 1:04:48.199 they get there, they pay me, shower, do the deed, sayonara. 1:04:48.479 --> 1:04:50.359 You know, there's no messaging after. 1:04:51.559 --> 1:04:55.199 There was only one case where early on where I 1:04:55.319 --> 1:04:57.079 did catch feelings. 1:04:56.759 --> 1:05:01.239 For a client, and yeah that was a lesson learned too. 1:05:02.239 --> 1:05:03.399 Was that mister Sheffield? 1:05:03.519 --> 1:05:08.159 Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, he still he still messages me 1:05:08.199 --> 1:05:09.359 and still tries to call me. 1:05:10.319 --> 1:05:13.039 I flew to Sydney for a podcast like a little 1:05:13.039 --> 1:05:15.239 while ago, and like as soon as he saw I 1:05:15.359 --> 1:05:17.719 was there, he was like bombarding my phone. 1:05:17.439 --> 1:05:21.079 And I'm like, no, don't go back there. And I 1:05:21.119 --> 1:05:22.039 did it, which. 1:05:21.879 --> 1:05:25.799 Is good, well done, but it's hard to resist the 1:05:25.919 --> 1:05:27.319 lure of that attraction. 1:05:27.919 --> 1:05:31.679 Oh yeah, he was very very charming, very charming and 1:05:31.799 --> 1:05:33.999 just exactly my time. 1:05:34.279 --> 1:05:39.479 So when you said he started acting in a way 1:05:39.519 --> 1:05:41.439 that was kind of sas. 1:05:41.359 --> 1:05:44.399 Yeah, I just I felt like he was. 1:05:44.399 --> 1:05:48.199 Hiding something or like he wasn't telling me the full truth. 1:05:48.359 --> 1:05:51.919 Like I couldn't find him on social media. 1:05:52.159 --> 1:05:56.519 What would he have been hiding a girlfriend, Dora potentially potentially. 1:05:56.639 --> 1:05:58.919 I just felt like there was some sort of thing 1:05:58.959 --> 1:06:01.959 that he wasn't telling me, And I just feel like 1:06:02.039 --> 1:06:04.239 he was a big manipulator. 1:06:04.279 --> 1:06:06.759 Like he knew how to play the game. 1:06:06.599 --> 1:06:11.039 You know, like people who will sort of like replicate 1:06:11.119 --> 1:06:14.319 your personality in a way just to make you feel. 1:06:13.999 --> 1:06:16.519 Like just the biggest narcissus. 1:06:15.919 --> 1:06:18.479 You know, like I couldn't tell if you was in 1:06:18.519 --> 1:06:21.079 love with me or just the biggest narcissist. So yeah, 1:06:21.119 --> 1:06:22.919 I really had to cut that one off because it 1:06:22.959 --> 1:06:24.519 was just my mental health was not. 1:06:24.479 --> 1:06:28.999 Good and I did. And yeah, I'm strong enough now to. 1:06:28.959 --> 1:06:31.439 Not go back, which is good because old me would 1:06:31.479 --> 1:06:32.519 not have been strong enough. 1:06:32.599 --> 1:06:37.719 So yeah, well I wish you every strength, Kayla Jade, 1:06:38.199 --> 1:06:39.279 and every joy. 1:06:39.479 --> 1:06:40.679 Thank you so much. 1:06:45.199 --> 1:06:49.319 Well that escalated quickly, didn't it, From only fans to 1:06:49.439 --> 1:06:54.919 outer suburbia, from sex parties to chicken coops. Kayla Jade 1:06:55.039 --> 1:06:58.679 has somehow lived teen lives in the space of one, 1:06:59.559 --> 1:07:04.879 and I've got the feeling she's just getting started. 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