WEBVTT - Are You Using Your Purple Shampoo Wrong? 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to YouBeauty, the show for your face,

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<v Speaker 1>hair and bathroom cabinet. I'm Leigh Campbell. I'm Ali Izzo.

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<v Speaker 1>You are Ali Izzo. And Ali is here because our

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful Kelly has absolutely no voice and it's also the

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<v Speaker 1>show for your ears. And we didn't want to put

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<v Speaker 1>you through that or make her talk for pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. Yeah, she's a bit squeaky. So Ali, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the perfect time for the Youbees to get to

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<v Speaker 1>know you a little bit better because you've been here, what, five,

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<v Speaker 1>six weeks maybe? Early days. However, you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>worked together for... 20 years? Yeah. In some capacity. In

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<v Speaker 1>some capacity. Around the grounds. What are you doing here

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<v Speaker 1>and where did you come from?

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<v Speaker 2>These are excellent questions I'm still figuring out. I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>new head of YouBeauty, which is such a fun job.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe I get paid for this, but basically

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<v Speaker 2>I get, don't tell the boss, I get to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of oversee the whole universe of YouBeauty.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously Kel and you. You're telling the YouBeauty, so

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<v Speaker 1>tell them. Tell them.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the like pillars of the show and are our

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<v Speaker 2>main hosts, but I'm sort of here to like help

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<v Speaker 2>with all the other things you might see around the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>So like Instagram or like interviews on the side or

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<v Speaker 2>our amazing helping with.

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<v Speaker 1>The newsletter that you do. You're the wrangler. I wrangle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrangle. I don't know what else. Yeah, a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I like zhuzh up and hopefully you'll see more things

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<v Speaker 2>on all the other things from YouBeauty, which is very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>But occasionally I get pulled off the bench and get

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<v Speaker 1>to do this with you, which is so exciting. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're being the fancy big boss behind the scenes now,

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<v Speaker 1>but Tell everyone, you've had 20 years in beauty. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing some stuff, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to be the beauty director of Body and Soul,

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<v Speaker 2>actually used to host the podcast Healthish over there for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. I've worked at Elle magazine. I've worked at

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<v Speaker 2>Vogue most recently, Vogue Living, GQ. Always loved podcasts, but always.

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<v Speaker 1>Been a YouBeauty listener as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm so excited to now actually get to do

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<v Speaker 2>this for my job and with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we are so excited to have you here. So-

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we get into it? We shall. As always, huge

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<v Speaker 1>episode today. We are going to update you on the

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<v Speaker 1>juiciest headlines from beauty this week. We're going to answer

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<v Speaker 1>two excellent questions. Sadly, both were perfect for Kelly to answer,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's why you're here. Because you, I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Some knowledge in the blonde department, which we will be discussing.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I have a lot of feelings, but Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>has also sent through her notes, which are excellent and

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<v Speaker 2>very detailed.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are helping a blonde and then we're helping

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<v Speaker 1>someone with their lip liner. And then of course- Spendy, savey, MVP,

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<v Speaker 1>your first time. I'm so excited. The pressure. There was pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard. It's really, it's a lot harder than it looks.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only is it your first time doing your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite products, we've asked the Yubies an excellent question this

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<v Speaker 1>week and I literally had my jaw on the floor

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<v Speaker 1>with their answers. Me too, actually. All right, let's do news.

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<v Speaker 1>So in case you missed it because you may have it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a full-on week. On Monday, I cheated on you, beauty.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on Mamma Mia Out Loud. I did hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>For a very special bonus episode all about menopause and perimenopause.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were approached by the Australian government, no biggie,

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<v Speaker 1>to partner with them to help spread menopause. information to

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<v Speaker 1>help women find evidence-based facts about perimenopause and menopause. And

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a wonderful hub on their website. We'll link

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<v Speaker 1>it in the show notes, but we'll also link the

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<v Speaker 1>episode because it was so nice to sit around with

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<v Speaker 1>Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Mia Friedman, and Amelia Lester. You

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<v Speaker 1>had the brains to trust. All at different stages. Jessie's

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<v Speaker 1>just had twins. I convinced Amelia by the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the episode she might be in peri. And Holly and

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<v Speaker 1>me have been through it. So it was lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different perspectives, lots of different experiences and lots of different symptoms.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't all doom and gloom.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was World Menopause Day. So we do have

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<v Speaker 1>a day for that now, which I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>long it's been going around, but great. It's a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it, to get the men across it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that day this episode went live and I went

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<v Speaker 1>into recording it not really knowing what to expect or

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<v Speaker 1>what to say. But honestly, it's so helpful. And I

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<v Speaker 1>jump into a lot of the skin stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So sure, there's a lot of changes, a lot of symptoms.

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<v Speaker 1>Skin might be lower down on the priorities. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>still important. And kind of an easy fix. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I started to feel the effects of peri very early 40s.

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<v Speaker 1>It might creep up on you and you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a listen. See what you're in for. See what

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<v Speaker 1>you've been through. Yep. I think it was so great.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved Amelia during the episode sort of slowly realising

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<v Speaker 2>that she might need to go and talk to her.

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<v Speaker 1>GP about it. And it's not scary. It's not scary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually really, it's a really entertaining listen. So I

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<v Speaker 2>can highly recommend you guys do a great job. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very proud of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Ellie, what news have you brought to the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I have some exciting news and I've been working on

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<v Speaker 2>this in the background for a little while. So I

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<v Speaker 2>feel very excited that we are doing the You Beauty

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<v Speaker 2>Awards for 2026.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're squeezing it in before the end.

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<v Speaker 2>We are just squeezing it in and it is going

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<v Speaker 2>to hit Our November Masterclass episode will be the big bonzer,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful episode where we announce all the winners.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like tomorrow. I've got a lot of testing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Very soon.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a lot of work ahead of us. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of categories. There are 26 categories, three

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<v Speaker 2>of which the UBs get to vote on, which is

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<v Speaker 2>so exciting. They get to tell us their favorite spendy,

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<v Speaker 2>their favorite savey, and their favorite MVP of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>They get to do the best part of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. We gave the good ones to the UBs,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we have to do the other stuff. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work, a lot of testing, but it means

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<v Speaker 1>that by the end of the year, we can wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up all of our favourite products that we've rediscovered, that

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<v Speaker 1>we've trialled. They might be new, they might be old,

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<v Speaker 1>but just the things that gave us absolute joy. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited to see what you guys end up with.

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<v Speaker 1>I warn you, Ali, Kelly and I argue every year.

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<v Speaker 1>I want arguing. This is good. Cool. Healthy debate. How

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<v Speaker 1>do the UBs have their say?

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<v Speaker 2>This is the cool thing. So we are opening voting today.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the show notes. It is also in your app.

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<v Speaker 1>Email. It is on our socials. Basically, anywhere you see us,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see the link to vote. Well, if you see

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<v Speaker 1>when we were practicing the voting system before it went

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<v Speaker 1>live today, you won't see it. But Kermit the Frog voted. Really? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what to fill it in. Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to discredit that one. But it's easy. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>take too much of your time. You just jump in

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<v Speaker 1>and tell us your three products and why. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>One more thing for you before we head to questions.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about Christmas? I love Christmas. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? Is that a trick question? Okay, great.

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<v Speaker 1>How awesome is this? This is shiny. So it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Oz Hair and Beauty 24 Days of Ozmas. That's clever. Cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Oz Hair and Beauty is an online website because that's

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<v Speaker 1>where websites are. They're an online retailer. They mostly stock hair,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually they've got some really great products. I realize

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<v Speaker 1>I shop on there more than I thought because their

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<v Speaker 1>discounts are great. I need to do this more. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, you do. So it's $ 200 or just shy of.

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<v Speaker 1>And for anyone not watching, it's a giant reflective hologrammy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's very shiny. Very pretty and very shiny. Looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a wardrobe. It does. And it's heavy. So considering you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a Grinch and Kelly's slowly warming up to Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>would you like to help me? Yes. I thought you'd

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<v Speaker 1>never ask. Okay. Wait, before you do. Mm-hmm. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to set the scene for the UBs who may have

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<v Speaker 1>missed it. We have started a weekly breaking news segment

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<v Speaker 1>here on the beauty advent calendars as they launch in

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<v Speaker 1>real time. Very important. And that is because they launch

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<v Speaker 1>earlier and earlier every year. So we started back in September.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly was disgusted. She was not a fan. End of October,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting there. But honestly, it's because beauty lovers love

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<v Speaker 1>an advent. They launch earlier every year and they always

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<v Speaker 1>sell out. And most retailers do them or brands do them.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing more and more every time. And we get

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<v Speaker 1>so many questions about them. We tried to squeeze them

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<v Speaker 1>into one episode like end of November. It wasn't working

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<v Speaker 1>too much. So you're getting a weekly blow-by-blow. And on

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<v Speaker 1>that note, Ali, go for it. Yay. Oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited. So she's opening up this big, beautiful box.

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<v Speaker 1>It's purple and it's very pretty. And there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many different size containers. Wait. Oh, we have a theory. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly and I have a theory that when you open

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<v Speaker 1>your advent, the first one you open is great because

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, yay. The next few days might be a

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<v Speaker 1>bit average, a bit of a sample. It's a journey.

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<v Speaker 1>We think this, so we've been trying to test it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So we want to get like a middle point where

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be kind of average. It's just up

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Okay. I'm going to go number 16, which

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<v Speaker 1>looks very small. I'm opening it.

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<v Speaker 2>Decent sized product. It is Endota Deep Hydration Moisturizer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Okay. I mean, we love Endota, but it's small.

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<v Speaker 1>We love Endota. It's small. All right, let's do another one. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get a big one. Let's go 20.

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<v Speaker 1>Number 20. That is big. So basically it is a

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<v Speaker 1>big box with all different size box in it. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oz Hair and Beauty Hair Perfume in Salted Coconut, fresh

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<v Speaker 2>and salty. I'm talking about hair perfumes later, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>into this. Can I spray it?

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<v Speaker 1>Fresh and salty. Ooh. Can you smell that? Ooh, fresh. Me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nice. That's nice. I would be excited with that.

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<v Speaker 1>For a tween. Okay, you don't seem impressed. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to do one. Okay, what number do you want? Nine? Nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the number nine. I'm going to do two. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like odd numbers. Same with my daughter. She

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<v Speaker 1>hates odd numbers. Oh, I'm good at this. The Davro

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<v Speaker 1>Smoothing Balm. Davro is quite expensive and so bloody good.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously it's a mix of the brands that they stock.

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<v Speaker 1>They mostly stock salon brands. Like I said, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of hair, some body and face. And hair's expensive and

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<v Speaker 1>no one wants to buy expensive hair, so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good thing to do. And you get to try

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<v Speaker 1>some new things. That's what I love about Advent Calends.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I would never have bought a coconut hair perfume,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe. And, like, who wants to buy a $ 50

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<v Speaker 2>hair mask, really? But once it's good, you know, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Well, Kel's not here and she doesn't even listen

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<v Speaker 1>when she's away. No, we know this. So let's divvy

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<v Speaker 1>it up and we'll be back after the break. We're back. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. And Ali, I'm very cranky. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>bone to pick with you. Uh-oh. I just sat through

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<v Speaker 1>the first segment with the most awful, terrible ponytail, and

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<v Speaker 1>you said it looked good. I thought it did. You

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<v Speaker 1>look great with a high pony. It's very, like, peppy.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly would have said, duh, you look unhinged. Fix your hair.

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<v Speaker 1>You look terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're not at that stage of our relationship where

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<v Speaker 2>I can do that, maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone wants to see quite how bad the ponytail was,

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<v Speaker 1>you can watch YouBeauty in all its glory, all the

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<v Speaker 1>bad hairstyles, on Apple Podcasts and YouTube. So it's now out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope better. It looked great before. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>even better now. Look, I don't know if I believe

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<v Speaker 1>you yet, but anyway, let's jump into Q &amp; A.

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<v Speaker 1>which is when we answer some wonderful questions that have

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<v Speaker 1>been submitted. You can send us your questions via DM

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<v Speaker 1>to YouBeauty or me or Kel. You can send them

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<v Speaker 1>to the email address, jump in the Facebook group, wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you can see we are, we'll find it and we

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<v Speaker 1>may answer it. So this one was sent to Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>Long time Yubi here and a bit of an SOS

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping Kel can answer. Oops. I'm currently using a

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<v Speaker 1>blonde toner with a developer to tone my blonde but

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<v Speaker 1>finding it barely lasts. I'm wondering if it's the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>brand I'm using or is my routine missing a crucial step? Kel,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any product recs for making blonde tone

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<v Speaker 1>actually stick? I love this question as a very dark

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<v Speaker 1>brunette because I've been in beauty for 20 years and

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<v Speaker 1>blonde still remains quite a mystery to me. It's very expensive. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very high maintenance. Yes. And why when you pay

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<v Speaker 1>that much money in the hairdresser, do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>then go home and do extra stuff that can go wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God, this is the eternal question.

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<v Speaker 2>I know as a long-term blonde, look, Kel is blonder

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<v Speaker 2>than I am, but I have been blonde since day

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<v Speaker 2>dot and it is a true question. cross to bear

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<v Speaker 2>I feel in life there is a certain club that

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<v Speaker 2>all blondes belong to and we bitch and moan about

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<v Speaker 2>how expensive it is how annoying it is when it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the right color how hard it is to get

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<v Speaker 2>the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Color it's a whole thing so blondes have more fun

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<v Speaker 1>is totally a lie no blondes do not have more

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<v Speaker 1>fun blondes are poor I'm out there having so much

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<v Speaker 1>fun with my $ 10 box dye that takes 10 minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you do a box dye I'm so jealous because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I wish I could do that it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>so much easier like when I get my even just

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<v Speaker 2>my roots it's a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Situation it's four hours in the hairdressers It's awful. So

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, toner that you do at home. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've kind of made my hair accidentally a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>orangey brown and then I just chuck more brown over

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<v Speaker 1>the top. So does blonde hair kind of go the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong shade and you've got to fix that? Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, look, as Kel has actually been a very,

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<v Speaker 2>very good girl. She has done her notes. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>she's not with us today, she has sent through her

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts and feelings and she's done her homework, which is excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to pull and steal some of her expertise,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to lay her on top of my.

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<v Speaker 1>Own because she's blonde blonde and you're a beaut. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're Brindle. Your roots are brindle, but you've got, your

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<v Speaker 1>hair looks expensive. Thank you. It is. And I'm so silly.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, let's call Kel and get a voice

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<v Speaker 1>note for the show. She can't. She can't talk.

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<v Speaker 2>She can't.

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<v Speaker 1>But talk us through it and help this Yubi. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that it, as Kel says, it really

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<v Speaker 2>depends on what kind of blonde you are, what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of blonde you're going for.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you get, how you get your hair blonde

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<v Speaker 1>is essentially like, do you get.

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<v Speaker 2>Foils and how... creamy or how toned, how ash you

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<v Speaker 2>want that color to look. I think that it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>really impressive slash a little bit scary that our Yubi

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<v Speaker 2>is doing a developer at home to tone it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, what's the difference? A lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of the color corrective at home treatments

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<v Speaker 2>are more like a shampoo.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I thought. Or a mask.

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<v Speaker 2>And usually the toners and the developers, we leave those

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<v Speaker 2>to the professionals. So firstly, I would say impressive, like

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<v Speaker 2>hats off to you. Yubi, however, I would say go

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<v Speaker 2>to your hairdresser for something that you want to last

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<v Speaker 2>and get that professional colour done sort of first and

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<v Speaker 2>then you can more easily maintain it at home with

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<v Speaker 2>maintenance questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Miss, but isn't she... Well, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing that because some people do lighten their hair

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<v Speaker 1>or maintain their blonde at home. Let's just say she's

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<v Speaker 1>already got her hair done by a professional and then

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing this at home. Why? Why can't you hairdress

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<v Speaker 1>to get the tone right?

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, it's because... They might get it right. They might

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<v Speaker 2>get it right. But washing it with regular shampoos and

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<v Speaker 2>conditioners will ultimately change the base color notes. It will

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<v Speaker 2>go brassy. Everyone talks about brassy. You don't really usually

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<v Speaker 2>want brassy unless you're going for like an auburn or

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<v Speaker 2>a copper tone, which is on trend as per the

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<v Speaker 2>Pinterest trend report that we talked about last week. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is that slow, like it's like a fade. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a graph line where you start where you want.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the longer that you're at home, the longer

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<v Speaker 2>that you use regular products. It can even be your

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<v Speaker 2>water quality can affect that. How your colour disintegrates.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that from when I did have balayage and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was kind of caramelly. It did kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go a bit orangey caramelly. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're starting from a brown base, that's essentially

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<v Speaker 2>what bleaching does. And if you don't bleach it enough,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not bright enough. And if it's not, and the

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<v Speaker 2>toning that they do in the hairdressers, sorry, will essentially

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<v Speaker 2>fade out. So do they finish your color and then

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<v Speaker 2>tone it as the last step?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. And tell you what to do when you go home? Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>A good hairdresser would do that. And honestly, honestly, the

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<v Speaker 2>toning can take almost as long as the coloring. So

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<v Speaker 2>for example, when I get mine done, which I, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>try to look as natural as possible, I actually get

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<v Speaker 2>two toners done. I get like a stretch done on

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<v Speaker 2>my roots, which is a slightly darker tone. I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to say, when you say naturally it's possible, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you just let the regrowth grow. Well, the stretch lets

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<v Speaker 2>me let it go a little bit longer because it's

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<v Speaker 2>essentially a fade and it's kind of like putting like

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<v Speaker 2>a watercolor wash on over your roots down.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a very, very soft balayage. So you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a hard line.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you just get the bleach at your roots,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're getting foils done, you can see like

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<v Speaker 2>a very, very clear line when.

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<v Speaker 1>It starts to grow out. And do people still get streaks? Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the money pieces at the front, I think like

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<v Speaker 2>highlights and streaks when they're placed correctly for your face

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<v Speaker 2>and what look you're going for can actually look really

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful and really like highlight your face in nice ways.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want like tiger stripes. So blondes just don't

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<v Speaker 1>still get that cap on and they pull through the

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<v Speaker 1>beauty thing. No, very old school to use the cap.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's much more about like strategic placement

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<v Speaker 2>of where you and your hairdresser want the highlights to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's usually done with the alfoil foils and it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So for fellow brunettes or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>redheads or blondes that are listening and thinking, hang on,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I need that. How do you counteract the brisiness? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you go back to like primary school and

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<v Speaker 2>think of the color wheel to the primary colors, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you've got your secondary colors. If you go to

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite color on the color wheel of orange, you

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<v Speaker 2>are at purple. So purple is, that's why all of the,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, toning shampoos, et cetera, are purple. So the

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<v Speaker 2>purple actually neutralizes the color you're not trying to like

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<v Speaker 2>re-bleach it you're not trying to like strip the hair

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<v Speaker 2>back further you're not trying to make your hair purple

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<v Speaker 2>no you're not trying to make your hair purple but

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<v Speaker 2>the orange plus purple equals neutral got it so it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense think of that what you actually have to

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<v Speaker 2>do is add purple to your orange and it will

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<v Speaker 2>go away it's like magic actually I haven't wondered why

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<v Speaker 2>all the blonde stuff says purple but I go oh

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<v Speaker 2>I can't use that for me it looks intense when

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<v Speaker 2>you use it as well it is deep purple it's

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of indigo color and you're like why Isn't

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<v Speaker 2>my hair going purple?

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<v Speaker 1>Because they do blast it all over marketing. So blondes

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<v Speaker 1>must be looking for purple. They don't want purple hair,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't want orange. And normally, I guess for

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<v Speaker 1>you or just the average blonde, you just do a

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<v Speaker 1>mask or a shampoo.

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<v Speaker 2>I just do a mask or a shampoo. I see

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<v Speaker 2>my hairdresser. Not very often because it's so expensive. I

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<v Speaker 2>try to go as long as possible in between colors.

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<v Speaker 2>It also helps protect the condition of my hair because bleach,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. I probably go three.

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<v Speaker 1>To four times a year. That's still a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot, but it's not as often as I

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<v Speaker 2>should go, but there are ways to- No one's telling.

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<v Speaker 1>The police don't come and arrest you. Thank you. But

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<v Speaker 1>is the right toner helping you stretch that? Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I use the Christophe Robin Baby Blonde Mask, which is purple.

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<v Speaker 2>It is like dark purple and my hairdresser recommended to

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<v Speaker 2>me and that gets me through. So I just use

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<v Speaker 2>a additional shampoo and conditioner for coloured hair and then

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<v Speaker 2>use the mask in place of the conditioner when I

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<v Speaker 2>do it about once a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Once a week? Once a week, yeah. Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry for all this time you don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too. Me too. But it gets me through.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, though, that Kel gave us some other

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<v Speaker 2>product recommendations and that lady is super blonde, so I

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<v Speaker 2>would trust her.

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<v Speaker 1>I will read those as Kel's proxy. Please do. But

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<v Speaker 1>one more question. If you were just reading what we

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<v Speaker 1>know for this lovely lady, do you think it's the

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<v Speaker 1>developer part that's maybe taking her on the wrong path?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it's hard to know without seeing what

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<v Speaker 2>color she is because there's a huge difference. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like Kel's really platinum and I'm sort of like beige-y,

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<v Speaker 2>brown-y blonde. I think it depends where she's sitting. If

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<v Speaker 2>she's got a good blonde in the salon, she should

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<v Speaker 2>only need to use a mask once a week.

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<v Speaker 1>She shouldn't have to. toner at home. Right. Cause she's saying,

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<v Speaker 1>am I missing a crucial step and not being blonde,

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<v Speaker 1>but having used every color of box dye ever. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she's adding that extra step. Maybe that's the developer.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just go buy one of these recs or

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<v Speaker 1>jump in the beauty group. Yep. Try a toner on

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<v Speaker 1>its own. Yep. Cheapy. Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like if you're happy with the color, when

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<v Speaker 2>you leave the salon, a toner or one of a

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<v Speaker 2>mask or one of Kel's recs should get you through

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<v Speaker 2>into your next appointment if you're using it regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't have to get a fancy one. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>read Kel's in a minute, but just go to the supermarket. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so good. I mean, I'm not blonde, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do the same for my hair. I'm almost exclusively supermarket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Let me be Kelly. This is fun. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kel's three favorite products or toners are Fudge Professional

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<v Speaker 1>Clean Blonde. Why am I trying to be Kelly? Fudge

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<v Speaker 1>Professional Clean Blonde Purple Toning Shampoo, 20 bucks and 49 cents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good. Daily Naturals Blonde Toning Shampoo, $ 26. 95. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not even know they did one. And NAC Platinum

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<v Speaker 1>Blonde Anti-Yellow Shampoo, $ 39. 95. I'm assuming that's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>for your hair house, warehouse, or maybe Oz Hair and Beauty. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She also says you don't need the conditioner, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is true, 100%. You don't need the matching conditioner.

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<v Speaker 1>To a toner? To a purple or toning shampoo. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you guys make a Venn diagram, please? I just

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<v Speaker 1>wash and tone. The other thing that I just don't wow,

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<v Speaker 1>like how people afford it, the cost. So Kelly has

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<v Speaker 1>written her cost of maintaining or being blonde a year

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<v Speaker 1>is about $ 2, 500 for 10 appointments. That sounds cheap. That

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty good. I should go to her hairdresser.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably spend about the same, but with like four

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<v Speaker 2>appointments a year because I try to stretch mine out.

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<v Speaker 1>Ali, we asked the Yubies. When I say my jaw

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<v Speaker 1>was on the floor, literally, I wish I'd filmed myself

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<v Speaker 1>at home when we were putting the information in Slack

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, yeah. So let us tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what it costs in blondes. Keep in mind, Yubies are

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<v Speaker 1>all around Australia and around the world. Some cities are expensive.

0:19:37.010 --> 0:19:39.439
<v Speaker 1>Some rural places are great. I've got a friend who

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<v Speaker 1>does it in people's houses. She's mobile and she's really affordable.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a range. But, hey, we had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of responses, by the way. a lot of blonde yubis

0:19:48.650 --> 0:19:51.909
<v Speaker 1>yubi said on average between one to two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half k a year that's good that's per year so

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know how many appointments people are having but

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<v Speaker 1>still stacy and brooke were closer to three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half or four k a year And then Kylie said,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I hadn't added it up because it's $ 6, 000

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<v Speaker 1>a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that doesn't surprise me, unfortunately. It is an expensive

0:20:11.050 --> 0:20:13.430
<v Speaker 2>way to be in the world. It's expensive, but also

0:20:13.470 --> 0:20:14.649
<v Speaker 2>it's so hard to get right yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an expertise. Speaking of getting it right, we

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<v Speaker 1>asked the Yubis if anyone had a blonde horror story.

0:20:21.130 --> 0:20:24.560
<v Speaker 1>A Yubi shared that a hairdresser burned her scalp so

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<v Speaker 1>badly that it was literally weeping into her pillow. I'm

0:20:28.940 --> 0:20:31.220
<v Speaker 1>sorry that happened to you. That is awful. Because it

0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:32.859
<v Speaker 1>is a chemical and you can't leave it on too long.

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:34.990
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes you can feel it on your scalp and

0:20:35.030 --> 0:20:37.490
<v Speaker 1>it's like this like hot feeling. It's not nice. You

0:20:37.510 --> 0:20:39.410
<v Speaker 1>guys are nuts. I can only relate to my eyelashes

0:20:39.430 --> 0:20:42.580
<v Speaker 1>being burnt off from a lash lift. Oh, that also

0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:42.940
<v Speaker 1>happened to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, we asked the Yubies to share their top tips

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<v Speaker 2>and product recommendations too.

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<v Speaker 1>To start with, Sue suggested using a filter on the

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<v Speaker 1>shower head because the quality of your water does affect

0:20:54.250 --> 0:20:56.109
<v Speaker 1>your hair color. Big time. When you travel overseas and

0:20:56.130 --> 0:20:58.950
<v Speaker 1>you realize whether it's hard or soft. I mentioned a

0:20:58.990 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 1>great water filter. I can't remember the name of it,

0:21:00.770 --> 0:21:02.330
<v Speaker 1>but I got it last year. We'll find it and

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<v Speaker 1>add it to the show notes because I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do that. Zina and Donnie both love the Kerastase Luminaire.

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.140
<v Speaker 1>That's such a beautiful range. And Sarah recommends the NAC

0:21:10.220 --> 0:21:13.699
<v Speaker 1>Blonde Shampoo, which Kel also recommended. So another Yubie had

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<v Speaker 1>a Brilliant tip. She suggested using a clarifying shampoo first,

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<v Speaker 1>so that will remove all the build-up like silicon, maybe

0:21:20.510 --> 0:21:23.430
<v Speaker 1>dry shampoo, all the stuff that gets in there which

0:21:23.470 --> 0:21:26.170
<v Speaker 1>can contribute to the brassiness in the first place. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it will make your mask or your treatment

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<v Speaker 1>shampoo work better. But will a clarifying shampoo strip your blonde?

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<v Speaker 1>It should not strip it.

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<v Speaker 2>It should not strip it, but it will help remove

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<v Speaker 2>the things that can turn it brassy.

0:21:39.100 --> 0:21:41.580
<v Speaker 1>And fun fact, if you're any tone of red... It

0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.160
<v Speaker 1>will strip it, not to say it's not important, but

0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:46.939
<v Speaker 1>the molecule, the red molecule, is bigger than any other molecule,

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.939
<v Speaker 1>which is why red washes out so fast. That is true.

0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Or why your socks go red in the wash. Always.

0:21:53.140 --> 0:21:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Always red socks. Yeah, because the molecule, they can't go

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<v Speaker 1>any smaller. This is great.

0:21:57.280 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 2>And finally, Justine's hot tip is to add a couple

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.520
<v Speaker 2>of pumps of HairShots Perfectly Blonde to.

0:22:01.460 --> 0:22:03.619
<v Speaker 1>Your existing shampoo. That is such a good trick. She

0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.639
<v Speaker 1>uses it once a week and says it refreshes her

0:22:05.700 --> 0:22:09.139
<v Speaker 1>colour beautifully. So she's doing a MacGyver and concoction. Oh

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.159
<v Speaker 1>my God. A little chemistry in the shower. Honestly, I

0:22:11.180 --> 0:22:13.100
<v Speaker 1>want to be a scientist. I love mixing things together.

0:22:13.140 --> 0:22:15.600
<v Speaker 1>You are a science nerd. That's exciting. Well, guys, I feel...

0:22:16.020 --> 0:22:19.230
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel educated? Do you understand us better? Not really.

0:22:19.270 --> 0:22:20.970
<v Speaker 1>I think you're all nuts. My tip was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be just to go like a nice medium brown. It's dedication,

0:22:24.990 --> 0:22:28.429
<v Speaker 1>but I did learn a lot. I'm glad. So the

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<v Speaker 1>lovely Ruby sent me a DM on Insta and she said, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with having a Cupid's bow now? It's cancelled?

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:34.879
<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it cool? Help this socket millennial out. Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me explain a bit what's happening. And Ruby's

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<v Speaker 1>a millennial. I'm an elder millennial. So I see what

0:22:44.850 --> 0:22:47.270
<v Speaker 1>she's saying there with the socks, the ankle socks. It's

0:22:47.330 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a generational war. When I say that,

0:22:50.619 --> 0:22:53.500
<v Speaker 1>people are arguing about how to apply makeup. So take

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.940
<v Speaker 1>it with a grain of salt. There's kind of a

0:22:55.980 --> 0:23:00.100
<v Speaker 1>social media debate. Gen Z are kind of basically saying,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes in words, but mostly in tutorials, that the Cupid's

0:23:03.180 --> 0:23:05.419
<v Speaker 1>bow is not cool. If you're not sure what that is,

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.730
<v Speaker 1>it's just that little V shape under your nose that.

0:23:09.030 --> 0:23:10.790
<v Speaker 2>Goes up and down, like the McDonald's arches.

0:23:11.230 --> 0:23:14.330
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and that's exactly right. And that we just ignore

0:23:14.390 --> 0:23:16.869
<v Speaker 1>it or we even kind of draw straight across if

0:23:16.890 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>we're doing a bit of overlining. Yeah. And so apparently

0:23:19.820 --> 0:23:23.020
<v Speaker 1>defining your cupid's bow says you're a millennial or a

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:24.619
<v Speaker 1>Gen X or whatever. It feels like the.

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Eyeliner debate, you know, like the millennial eyeliner versus the

0:23:28.460 --> 0:23:29.350
<v Speaker 2>Gen Z eyeliner.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sick of this. But it always happens

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:34.179
<v Speaker 1>when there's unrest in the world. I feel like I've

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>been saying this a lot, but we just, we fuss

0:23:36.780 --> 0:23:38.439
<v Speaker 1>over the things that don't matter because we don't want

0:23:38.460 --> 0:23:40.620
<v Speaker 1>to face the outside world. But I don't want people,

0:23:40.869 --> 0:23:42.290
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the younger children telling me how to

0:23:42.310 --> 0:23:46.010
<v Speaker 1>apply my makeup. Gosh, no. However, it does make quite

0:23:46.070 --> 0:23:48.390
<v Speaker 1>a difference to your face, more than you might think.

0:23:48.550 --> 0:23:51.790
<v Speaker 1>Do you overline when you do a lip liner? Interesting question.

0:23:51.830 --> 0:23:54.030
<v Speaker 1>So about a month ago, we had a question about

0:23:54.109 --> 0:23:55.970
<v Speaker 1>lip liners from a Yubi. So I feel like they're

0:23:56.050 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 1>also doing a whole thing. I don't really use normally

0:24:00.260 --> 0:24:03.060
<v Speaker 1>a really precise one, but we're going to do it

0:24:03.100 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 1>today and just quickly show the Yubis how much it

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:06.899
<v Speaker 1>can make a difference to their face. So do make

0:24:06.940 --> 0:24:09.290
<v Speaker 1>sure you're watching. I kind of just do a smudgy

0:24:09.350 --> 0:24:12.060
<v Speaker 1>crayon-y one or the night before I do one of

0:24:12.100 --> 0:24:14.500
<v Speaker 1>those kind of texture ones, go to bed so I've

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 1>got some definition. Lip tint overnight. Yes. Very smart. Yes.

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.260
<v Speaker 1>And about five or six years ago, I actually got

0:24:20.300 --> 0:24:23.180
<v Speaker 1>my lips tattooed because my lips are the same colour

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.950
<v Speaker 1>as my skin and have no definition. I don't do

0:24:27.010 --> 0:24:30.149
<v Speaker 1>it normally because I feel the commitment is scary and

0:24:30.190 --> 0:24:32.910
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't suit me. Yeah, right. Kelly defines her cupid's

0:24:32.950 --> 0:24:35.510
<v Speaker 1>bow mostly, I think. Yes. No, she mixes it up.

0:24:35.910 --> 0:24:37.570
<v Speaker 1>But it makes a massive difference to your face. It's

0:24:37.609 --> 0:24:39.109
<v Speaker 1>like when you get your brows done or you get

0:24:39.130 --> 0:24:41.650
<v Speaker 1>your liner right. So should we quickly just show you these? Yeah.

0:24:42.050 --> 0:24:43.510
<v Speaker 1>And then just have a play at home. I think

0:24:43.550 --> 0:24:45.689
<v Speaker 1>it's what suits you too. Yeah. And you know what?

0:24:45.710 --> 0:24:47.490
<v Speaker 1>You can do it differently tomorrow. But a lot of

0:24:47.530 --> 0:24:49.929
<v Speaker 1>people don't realize you can apply your liner, your lip

0:24:49.970 --> 0:24:53.890
<v Speaker 1>liner differently whenever you want. And it does really change things. Okay.

0:24:53.910 --> 0:24:57.260
<v Speaker 2>So I'm following my Cupid's bow, but really trying to

0:24:57.300 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 2>go up and then down. Like I'm not over lining

0:25:00.460 --> 0:25:03.700
<v Speaker 2>particularly that much, but it's enough to get a defined

0:25:03.780 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 2>shape at that top part of my lip. so that

0:25:06.580 --> 0:25:09.540
<v Speaker 2>it's not the same as my bottom lip essentially. So

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.389
<v Speaker 2>I often like in a rush will just kind of

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:12.930
<v Speaker 2>like do the whole thing and mush your lips together.

0:25:13.130 --> 0:25:14.489
<v Speaker 2>You kind of can't do that if you're defining your

0:25:15.050 --> 0:25:16.650
<v Speaker 2>cupid's quote because you lose that definition.

0:25:17.070 --> 0:25:20.010
<v Speaker 1>So I don't really have a cupid's bow or I do,

0:25:20.070 --> 0:25:22.869
<v Speaker 1>but it's a little bit lopsided and not really kind

0:25:22.930 --> 0:25:25.629
<v Speaker 1>of obvious where I would start and stop. So I

0:25:25.750 --> 0:25:28.010
<v Speaker 1>literally just, I start at the kind of outer corner,

0:25:28.250 --> 0:25:30.190
<v Speaker 1>outer corner of my lips. And then when I get

0:25:30.250 --> 0:25:33.139
<v Speaker 1>to the cupid's bow, I just feather it a cross-ish,

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.139
<v Speaker 1>not to make it obvious that I'm kind of covering

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.300
<v Speaker 1>it up, but because it's not very defined anyway, it

0:25:37.340 --> 0:25:40.220
<v Speaker 1>just gets a little bit kind of diffused and blurry there.

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel the most to me. Having said that,

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't do a lot of dark, bright lip liners,

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.100
<v Speaker 1>but it also makes my lips look a little bit

0:25:47.300 --> 0:25:50.180
<v Speaker 1>fuller because it's just that visual kind of extra bit

0:25:50.300 --> 0:25:52.889
<v Speaker 1>on the top. See, you have a beautiful cupid's bow.

0:25:52.980 --> 0:25:56.100
<v Speaker 1>I wish I did. You have a beautiful flat top.

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.959
<v Speaker 1>Is that a compliment? I don't. I don't know, but

0:25:59.020 --> 0:26:01.489
<v Speaker 1>I think I see what she's talking about. It is

0:26:01.630 --> 0:26:04.090
<v Speaker 1>a really different shape. I think it looks really modern.

0:26:04.290 --> 0:26:06.570
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Me or you? You. I think you

0:26:06.590 --> 0:26:09.750
<v Speaker 1>look really modern. I think this is like old Hollywood clam,

0:26:09.869 --> 0:26:11.870
<v Speaker 1>you know? It's very that. So if you're not watching,

0:26:12.250 --> 0:26:14.820
<v Speaker 1>we obviously just quickly lined our lips. It's not perfect.

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>It's very like kind of on the fly. But because

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.300
<v Speaker 1>we've used a color, not a bright red or a

0:26:19.340 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>bright orange or anything, but because we've used a color

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:25.220
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a, you know, a bricky red, a

0:26:25.260 --> 0:26:28.170
<v Speaker 1>bricky rosy nude, I say, It really does make your

0:26:28.230 --> 0:26:30.149
<v Speaker 1>lips stand out more and you can see what it

0:26:30.170 --> 0:26:32.530
<v Speaker 1>does to your face. So it's kind of like, I guess,

0:26:32.570 --> 0:26:35.510
<v Speaker 1>how they map out your brows before they're done. You're

0:26:35.530 --> 0:26:37.129
<v Speaker 1>not doing anything to your lips, but it just shows

0:26:37.150 --> 0:26:38.510
<v Speaker 1>you what shape is there.

0:26:38.609 --> 0:26:38.790
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:39.030 --> 0:26:40.250
<v Speaker 1>And then you can decide what to do from there.

0:26:40.619 --> 0:26:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it looks really pretty. But at the end

0:26:42.390 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of the day, my friend Ruby, do whatever you want

0:26:44.619 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>with your lip liner, your eyeliner, your jeans and your socks. Okay, Ali,

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the pressure's on. After the break, we're doing Spendy Savian

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:54.940
<v Speaker 1>MVP and you better bring some good products. I know.

0:26:55.270 --> 0:26:56.889
<v Speaker 1>Should we go put some lip gloss over this liner?

0:26:57.210 --> 0:27:04.850
<v Speaker 1>Let's fix this. We'll be back. So nearing the end,

0:27:05.109 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>but we've saved the best for last. Spendy, Savy and MVP.

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 1>So every week we talk about products that we love,

0:27:11.660 --> 0:27:15.100
<v Speaker 1>that we're obsessed with. Three categories. MVP is something that's

0:27:15.420 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>most valuable product, player, that's been saving our life or

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.890
<v Speaker 1>making us happy. Savy is something that's really, really good

0:27:21.910 --> 0:27:24.750
<v Speaker 1>and we're like, whoa, that's so cheap. Spendy, it's a

0:27:24.750 --> 0:27:27.609
<v Speaker 1>little treat. Everyone needs a little treat. What would you

0:27:27.670 --> 0:27:31.090
<v Speaker 1>like to start with, my friend? Oh, this is so exciting. Firstly,

0:27:31.170 --> 0:27:32.490
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say respect you guys. This is

0:27:32.510 --> 0:27:34.030
<v Speaker 1>really hard. Thank you. It is so hard. It is

0:27:34.050 --> 0:27:34.889
<v Speaker 1>so hard.

0:27:35.250 --> 0:27:37.410
<v Speaker 2>Because there's so many things, but I think we want

0:27:37.630 --> 0:27:42.030
<v Speaker 2>to always recommend the absolute best. And I have always

0:27:42.090 --> 0:27:43.460
<v Speaker 2>loved this part of the show.

0:27:43.340 --> 0:27:45.020
<v Speaker 1>As a listener. And you're always like, hurry up, Leigh,

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you're changing yours last minute. And now you see the pressure.

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:48.100
<v Speaker 1>I know the pressure.

0:27:48.140 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 2>So I have a lot more empathy for both of

0:27:49.740 --> 0:27:51.340
<v Speaker 2>you guys. The first thing I want to talk about

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:52.930
<v Speaker 2>is my Savy.

0:27:52.950 --> 0:27:53.210
<v Speaker 1>Great.

0:27:53.570 --> 0:27:56.050
<v Speaker 2>Because it is just a little bit unusual and it's

0:27:56.070 --> 0:27:58.030
<v Speaker 2>something that I didn't think that I needed in my

0:27:58.090 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 2>life and I only recently discovered it.

0:28:00.790 --> 0:28:03.649
<v Speaker 1>It is from AER. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly.

0:28:03.670 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>It's A-E-R-R-E and it's a hair perfume and these are

0:28:07.340 --> 0:28:12.300
<v Speaker 2>inspired by iconic fragrances, perfumes. But sometimes you don't want

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.580
<v Speaker 2>to waste your very expensive fragrance on your hair necessarily

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>if you want to do an overall spritz.

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:18.899
<v Speaker 1>Also, we don't put fragrance on our hair because it's

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.820
<v Speaker 1>got alcohol in it. So are they a dupe brand?

0:28:22.590 --> 0:28:26.500
<v Speaker 1>kind of, but like, it's just really nice as well.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 2>So this one I love in particular, it's Sunset in Paris,

0:28:28.820 --> 0:28:33.100
<v Speaker 2>which gives the vibes of Coco Chanel Mademoiselle, which I

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:34.619
<v Speaker 2>used to wear a lot.

0:28:35.380 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 1>And so you can tell what fragrance it is when

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.229
<v Speaker 1>you shop online. Or do they say that? They do

0:28:40.270 --> 0:28:41.750
<v Speaker 1>say it. They do say it. Have a look.

0:28:41.970 --> 0:28:44.370
<v Speaker 2>But it is also just very chic. And I wouldn't

0:28:44.390 --> 0:28:47.010
<v Speaker 2>say it's exactly the same, but it is really nice.

0:28:47.030 --> 0:28:49.510
<v Speaker 2>Like if you like Cocoa Shell Mademoiselle, you will also

0:28:49.550 --> 0:28:51.030
<v Speaker 2>like this. Well, I don't, but I'll smell it in

0:28:51.070 --> 0:28:53.130
<v Speaker 2>a moment. But I'm holding the bottle and.

0:28:53.060 --> 0:28:55.060
<v Speaker 1>I must say I've seen these, but I just assumed

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>they were body fragrances and they are very stylish, very

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of minimal chic. Very chic. Weighty, beautiful magnet cap.

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's definitely not like a, sorry, it doesn't look

0:29:03.980 --> 0:29:06.270
<v Speaker 1>cheap or feel cheap. No. So it's $ 45.

0:29:05.770 --> 0:29:09.210
<v Speaker 2>Does that still sit in our spendy, I mean, our

0:29:09.230 --> 0:29:11.470
<v Speaker 2>savey category? I think so because I think it's a

0:29:11.490 --> 0:29:13.510
<v Speaker 2>good alternative to something more expensive.

0:29:13.750 --> 0:29:16.750
<v Speaker 1>I think it'll save you money. It's approved. The price?

0:29:16.990 --> 0:29:19.470
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the fragrance. No. But that's okay because

0:29:19.490 --> 0:29:21.270
<v Speaker 1>not everyone likes their own fragrance. Well, they've got a

0:29:21.290 --> 0:29:22.870
<v Speaker 1>whole range. So there's some more on my desk, but

0:29:22.890 --> 0:29:23.770
<v Speaker 1>this is really pretty.

0:29:23.850 --> 0:29:25.390
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like, you know that waft when someone

0:29:25.410 --> 0:29:27.050
<v Speaker 2>walks past you and you just get like a little

0:29:27.990 --> 0:29:28.510
<v Speaker 2>whiff of them?

0:29:28.550 --> 0:29:31.110
<v Speaker 1>I think it's good for that. I agree. But yeah, Yubies,

0:29:31.130 --> 0:29:34.110
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about wasting your expensive or affordable fragrance on

0:29:34.150 --> 0:29:36.490
<v Speaker 1>your hair because most fragrances contain alcohol and that will

0:29:36.510 --> 0:29:39.930
<v Speaker 1>dry out your hair. So look for a hair-specific fragrance.

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I just smell like layers and layers and layers of

0:29:42.780 --> 0:29:45.290
<v Speaker 1>dry shampoo. All right, Leigh, what's your savey? Okay, it's

0:29:45.410 --> 0:29:48.930
<v Speaker 1>simple but great. It's by The Breakout Hacks. So we

0:29:49.170 --> 0:29:51.470
<v Speaker 1>all know this Aussie brand. They were TBH for a

0:29:51.490 --> 0:29:53.990
<v Speaker 1>really long time, but then there was a copyright kind

0:29:54.020 --> 0:29:56.350
<v Speaker 1>of thing. So they went to the breakout hack, which is,

0:29:56.390 --> 0:29:59.070
<v Speaker 1>I guess, what it was short for because they started

0:29:59.150 --> 0:30:01.710
<v Speaker 1>with clearing up skin and kind of acne care. Then

0:30:01.750 --> 0:30:04.060
<v Speaker 1>they did a serum that I will never run out of,

0:30:04.090 --> 0:30:06.590
<v Speaker 1>which is the Rebound Serum. They did that in partnership

0:30:06.610 --> 0:30:09.469
<v Speaker 1>with Hannah English, who we love. This is called the

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Skin Glaze Gel Cream Moisturizer. Your daily dew over. I mean,

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>could they get more great names and words on the front?

0:30:17.460 --> 0:30:20.580
<v Speaker 1>I love the copywriter on this brand already. When I

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>first got my eyes on it without my glasses on,

0:30:22.900 --> 0:30:25.219
<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe it was a giant blush. Yeah. It's not.

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:29.020
<v Speaker 1>It is a really unique, really lightweight, as it says,

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>gel moisturizer. I was like, I don't think it will

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.690
<v Speaker 1>be glazy because usually a gel kind of really sinks in. Yeah.

0:30:34.870 --> 0:30:37.450
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. It leaves like a beautiful finish but honestly

0:30:37.490 --> 0:30:41.270
<v Speaker 1>sets down to almost water. You've got to try it. Ooh.

0:30:41.430 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>So like it feels like it's gone. But then like–

0:30:45.610 --> 0:30:47.969
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like rubbing in hand sanitiser. Actually, that sounds awful.

0:30:48.070 --> 0:30:49.650
<v Speaker 1>But like it goes away. It's sort of liquidy.

0:30:49.730 --> 0:30:52.150
<v Speaker 2>It kind of feels like water when you rub it

0:30:52.190 --> 0:30:54.130
<v Speaker 2>in and then it's gone, but then your skin feels

0:30:54.370 --> 0:30:55.450
<v Speaker 2>really dewy.

0:30:55.530 --> 0:30:57.620
<v Speaker 1>Yes. And for someone like me who is sweaty and

0:30:57.650 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>combo and we're going into the warmer months, I want

0:30:59.540 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to be dewy. I don't want to be sweaty. Any

0:31:01.940 --> 0:31:04.460
<v Speaker 1>thickness or extra layer tips me over. I love this.

0:31:04.540 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>And no fragrance, which I really like too with skincare.

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:11.050
<v Speaker 1>No Fragrance. No Fragrance. $ 29. 95 full price. It just launched

0:31:11.070 --> 0:31:13.730
<v Speaker 1>like maybe last month. And the Breakout Hack is one

0:31:13.750 --> 0:31:15.690
<v Speaker 1>of those brands you can kind of get everywhere and

0:31:15.710 --> 0:31:17.330
<v Speaker 1>will often go on sale because that's what I do

0:31:17.350 --> 0:31:19.660
<v Speaker 1>with the Rebound Serum. I'm just really impressed and it's

0:31:19.700 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>really weird and I love it. Not weird, but unique.

0:31:22.500 --> 0:31:25.380
<v Speaker 1>It's unusual and perfect for summer. And when I went

0:31:25.420 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>somewhere the other day, it was in my car and

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.620
<v Speaker 1>my chest was all crepey from sleeping and I just

0:31:29.060 --> 0:31:30.830
<v Speaker 1>zhooshed on my chest. I'm going to steal this. You

0:31:30.850 --> 0:31:33.650
<v Speaker 1>can have it. Thanks. Thanks. What's your spendy? Okay, my

0:31:33.670 --> 0:31:36.410
<v Speaker 1>spendy is spendy. Oh, I'm going to steal yours. Yeah, okay,

0:31:36.430 --> 0:31:39.130
<v Speaker 1>you can steal this. It is very.

0:31:38.850 --> 0:31:42.570
<v Speaker 2>Fashion and very chic, and you might have seen some

0:31:42.610 --> 0:31:44.390
<v Speaker 2>of the advertising stuff all over Instagram, but it is

0:31:44.490 --> 0:31:48.580
<v Speaker 2>the Prada Cream to Powder Blush, and it comes in this.

0:31:48.620 --> 0:31:49.980
<v Speaker 1>Beautiful- Ew, that color's awful. You can keep it. The

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.940
<v Speaker 1>color is awful. Don't judge me on it, but it

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>does look better on the face. If you're not- Sorry,

0:31:54.380 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>do you want to explain the color?

0:31:55.860 --> 0:31:58.260
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the color is very bright tomato red, which I

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 2>think is scary in blush format because you think, oh

0:32:00.860 --> 0:32:03.140
<v Speaker 2>my God- But I think when you put it on,

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 2>it just blends so beautifully.

0:32:04.580 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>It's actually really pretty, especially in summer. Have a look

0:32:07.300 --> 0:32:09.140
<v Speaker 1>at it. The packaging, I mean, it's Prada, so you

0:32:09.180 --> 0:32:10.930
<v Speaker 1>have to say it is very pretty. It's pale pink.

0:32:10.970 --> 0:32:11.870
<v Speaker 1>It's a little triangle.

0:32:12.210 --> 0:32:16.770
<v Speaker 2>It's the emblem, exactly. But it's small, which I also love.

0:32:16.850 --> 0:32:20.110
<v Speaker 1>It's lightweight. So it doesn't feel hefty, but it feels fun.

0:32:20.410 --> 0:32:22.420
<v Speaker 1>It feels like a little toy. I feel like Kelly's

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.540
<v Speaker 1>here with me because she brings the most outrageous shades

0:32:24.580 --> 0:32:26.930
<v Speaker 1>of blush. Have you actually worn this colour? I have.

0:32:26.950 --> 0:32:29.550
<v Speaker 1>I believe you. Look, it's been... Oh, it's not as hectic.

0:32:29.610 --> 0:32:33.250
<v Speaker 1>It's not as hectic, see, because it's powder. But it's...

0:32:33.570 --> 0:32:36.790
<v Speaker 1>Tap it on your... Yeah, it does definitely feel, like, tacky. Yeah,

0:32:36.910 --> 0:32:39.410
<v Speaker 1>it's tacky, but then it kind of, like, diffuses out.

0:32:39.450 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>The colour kind of, like, blends. Yeah, I mean, like, Yubi's...

0:32:42.740 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I did just tap 65 times. That's a lot. That's

0:32:45.140 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of blush. I get it because it looks

0:32:48.180 --> 0:32:50.660
<v Speaker 1>so intense. It looks scary. Yeah. It feels like quite

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.420
<v Speaker 1>a tacky balm, but then it's gone straight to a powder.

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.170
<v Speaker 1>I love the texture of it.

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.650
<v Speaker 2>Because I think sometimes when you, especially in summer, I

0:32:57.030 --> 0:32:58.650
<v Speaker 2>love a cream blush, but this is kind of gives

0:32:58.690 --> 0:33:01.830
<v Speaker 2>you the application feel of a cream, but then the

0:33:01.990 --> 0:33:03.390
<v Speaker 2>finish and the look of a powder.

0:33:03.450 --> 0:33:05.650
<v Speaker 1>And a staying power. And the staying powder. And that color,

0:33:05.790 --> 0:33:08.410
<v Speaker 1>it does, it's got real color payoff. I think that...

0:33:08.490 --> 0:33:09.969
<v Speaker 1>Let me have a proper go. I'm just going to

0:33:09.990 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>tap a bit on this hand like I wasn't going

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>as a clown. So I've tapped that two or three

0:33:13.740 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>times very gently. It's pretty beautiful. It's so pretty. How

0:33:18.780 --> 0:33:23.580
<v Speaker 1>much is it? It's $ 85. I know. I'm sorry. I know.

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>The world needs to stop. The poor blondes can't afford this.

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>The blondes definitely can't afford this. I can't afford this.

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>But it is so pretty.

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's a real treat if you want

0:33:32.460 --> 0:33:34.990
<v Speaker 2>to give something to someone who loves fun makeup. Like

0:33:35.010 --> 0:33:36.990
<v Speaker 2>it is a fun makeup thing and it is beautiful

0:33:37.030 --> 0:33:37.630
<v Speaker 2>to reapply.

0:33:38.170 --> 0:33:40.610
<v Speaker 1>And it fits in your handbag. And sometimes pretty things

0:33:40.650 --> 0:33:42.950
<v Speaker 1>are just pretty things. Fine. I mean, I have a

0:33:42.970 --> 0:33:45.690
<v Speaker 1>beautiful Prada handbag that I bought myself last year that

0:33:45.730 --> 0:33:48.940
<v Speaker 1>was ridiculously expensive. You need a blush to go in it.

0:33:49.740 --> 0:33:53.180
<v Speaker 1>An $ 85 blush. Maybe not. Nobody needs an $ 85 blush.

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.380
<v Speaker 1>No one needs anything. But, you know, it's gorgeous. But

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you can keep that shade. Okay, fine. It's on mine.

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.670
<v Speaker 1>What is your spendy? My spendy is kind of the

0:34:01.750 --> 0:34:04.330
<v Speaker 1>next step on a journey because I've talked about a

0:34:04.330 --> 0:34:06.650
<v Speaker 1>lot of the time Clarins Double Serum.

0:34:07.090 --> 0:34:07.270
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:34:07.490 --> 0:34:10.730
<v Speaker 1>Love it. Fabulous. Iconic. And then recently they launched Double

0:34:11.010 --> 0:34:11.950
<v Speaker 1>Serum Foundation.

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:12.469
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Excellent. Look what I've got. Double Serum Eye. So I'm

0:34:17.500 --> 0:34:20.739
<v Speaker 1>holding a little bottle tube that if you're familiar with it,

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.020
<v Speaker 1>Clarins Double Serum is exactly that. It's a serum and

0:34:24.060 --> 0:34:26.700
<v Speaker 1>it's got two kind of chambers. Yeah. And it mixes

0:34:26.739 --> 0:34:31.549
<v Speaker 1>together the ingredients. Chemistry. Chemistry. Or just fun. The foundation

0:34:31.590 --> 0:34:33.450
<v Speaker 1>does the same, but one side's the serum and one

0:34:33.489 --> 0:34:35.870
<v Speaker 1>side's the pigment. Yeah. Now the eye, I don't know

0:34:35.910 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>what it's mixing together. They kind of look the same. Wait,

0:34:39.180 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>is there even a chamber? There is. There's like an internal,

0:34:41.420 --> 0:34:43.610
<v Speaker 1>then an external, rather than a split down the middle.

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:47.330
<v Speaker 1>I don't have my glasses on, Yubi. Yubi's, it's smaller

0:34:47.850 --> 0:34:51.270
<v Speaker 1>and really, really, really nice. And I didn't even look

0:34:51.290 --> 0:34:52.190
<v Speaker 1>to see if there was chambers.

0:34:52.210 --> 0:34:55.450
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so when you squeeze it, look, it's like there's

0:34:55.590 --> 0:34:58.250
<v Speaker 2>two little lotions in one squirt.

0:34:58.270 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I know because I'm obsessed with using it. When

0:35:00.739 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I got it, I was like, why can't I see

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.150
<v Speaker 1>the two chambers? Are they trying to trick me? And

0:35:05.170 --> 0:35:07.250
<v Speaker 1>then you mix them together. Oh, it's like a lotion

0:35:07.370 --> 0:35:10.150
<v Speaker 1>and an, I want to say oil, but it's not oily.

0:35:10.350 --> 0:35:13.710
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like a serum-y. Yeah. It's a serum

0:35:13.750 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>and a lotion maybe together. Yeah. One of them is

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.460
<v Speaker 1>kind of like an oil. Anyway, in the bigger serum,

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>you can very clearly see the two formulas and you

0:35:21.739 --> 0:35:24.020
<v Speaker 1>mix them together. That one I was confused, but once

0:35:24.060 --> 0:35:26.460
<v Speaker 1>you pump it out, one's kind of opaque, one's kind

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>of orange. Yeah.

0:35:27.100 --> 0:35:27.180
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:27.790 --> 0:35:29.770
<v Speaker 1>It's meant to do all of the things. That is

0:35:29.810 --> 0:35:32.750
<v Speaker 1>so nice. My poor eyes are a really good like test.

0:35:32.830 --> 0:35:33.009
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:33.070 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 1>My under eyes are still horrific, but it feels really nice.

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.219
<v Speaker 1>It feels beautiful. It applies well under makeup because you

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>can do morning and night. It doesn't travel into the

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.940
<v Speaker 1>eye area because I get irritated eyes, especially with glasses.

0:35:42.980 --> 0:35:45.660
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it traps product. No milia yet. And

0:35:45.700 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 1>I sometimes get milia around my eyes if I use

0:35:47.860 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 1>product too heavy. Yeah. Or too heavy handed. Same. So yeah,

0:35:50.980 --> 0:35:53.219
<v Speaker 1>the not so great news is it's Bit hard on

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:57.330
<v Speaker 1>the wallet. $ 150. Yikes. I don't set the prices. I

0:35:57.350 --> 0:35:57.890
<v Speaker 1>just tell you what.

0:35:59.150 --> 0:36:02.170
<v Speaker 2>Look, I think for your eyes, maybe it's worth the investment.

0:36:02.350 --> 0:36:05.790
<v Speaker 1>It's so nice. So nice. What is your MVP, my friend?

0:36:05.989 --> 0:36:09.109
<v Speaker 1>So my MVP, actually, I could have put down as

0:36:09.250 --> 0:36:11.610
<v Speaker 1>my savey because it is quite affordable.

0:36:11.790 --> 0:36:13.989
<v Speaker 2>But genuinely, this is the thing that I've been reaching

0:36:14.010 --> 0:36:15.930
<v Speaker 2>for the most. The color is really lovely. It is

0:36:15.989 --> 0:36:18.590
<v Speaker 2>the Dermotherapy Tinted Lip Balm in Mocha Brown.

0:36:18.610 --> 0:36:20.629
<v Speaker 1>Isn't It's so good. It's so good. And I just,

0:36:20.890 --> 0:36:24.430
<v Speaker 1>I really love Dermal Therapy. I think they are excellent.

0:36:24.450 --> 0:36:27.340
<v Speaker 1>I think they're kind of slept on. And I usually

0:36:27.500 --> 0:36:29.620
<v Speaker 1>had a, just a regular lip balm from them in

0:36:29.660 --> 0:36:31.259
<v Speaker 1>my handbag all the time. Like the blue one. The

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 1>blue one. Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's kind of like

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:34.940
<v Speaker 1>a basic, but it's not tinted. Okay. Let me show

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:36.980
<v Speaker 1>you the color. Cause this is the thing that.

0:36:37.020 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I was so impressed with because their clear version is excellent,

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 2>but this one has such a great color. I'm just

0:36:42.780 --> 0:36:44.570
<v Speaker 2>showing up to the camera. It is a really, really

0:36:45.150 --> 0:36:46.890
<v Speaker 2>dark brown, but a cool tone brown.

0:36:46.989 --> 0:36:47.670
<v Speaker 1>It's not warm.

0:36:47.989 --> 0:36:49.549
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a lot of browns and torps can

0:36:49.590 --> 0:36:53.570
<v Speaker 2>kind of like go rusty or like orangey on me anyway.

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.339
<v Speaker 2>So if you are up for a cool-toned lip balm

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.140
<v Speaker 2>that is just– but it goes quite sheer.

0:36:58.219 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>It's super sheer.

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.700
<v Speaker 2>It's not hectic, but it is just like it's not

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 2>going to like give you orange essentially.

0:37:03.420 --> 0:37:05.989
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a toner for your lips. And

0:37:06.030 --> 0:37:07.969
<v Speaker 1>like I spoke about Blistex the other week, like they've

0:37:07.989 --> 0:37:10.089
<v Speaker 1>done a cute little fun color. This is so great.

0:37:10.110 --> 0:37:14.029
<v Speaker 1>You know, the kind of reliable– Repairing lip balms, having

0:37:14.050 --> 0:37:14.390
<v Speaker 1>a party.

0:37:14.430 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>They're having a party and it's really worthwhile. It's $ 11

0:37:16.420 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 2>and you can get it everywhere. You can get it

0:37:18.340 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>at Woolies, you can get it at Priceline, you can

0:37:19.380 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 2>get it at Chemist Warehouse.

0:37:20.420 --> 0:37:22.140
<v Speaker 1>They have a range, but I really like the mocha brown.

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:25.610
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really pretty. So my MVP is a blush.

0:37:25.969 --> 0:37:29.810
<v Speaker 1>It's not bright red and it's not $ 85, although it's

0:37:29.850 --> 0:37:31.750
<v Speaker 1>not that cheap. It's from Mecca. I bought this the

0:37:31.770 --> 0:37:34.029
<v Speaker 1>other day. I was shopping with my business partner and

0:37:34.050 --> 0:37:35.910
<v Speaker 1>she said, can you help me find a blush? And

0:37:35.930 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>then we ended up just buying double of everything. Something.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:41.350
<v Speaker 1>You might have heard of it. It's NARS Orgasm. The

0:37:41.390 --> 0:37:45.290
<v Speaker 1>most iconic blush in the world, but not in a powder. No.

0:37:45.310 --> 0:37:47.189
<v Speaker 1>What is this? I mean, this happened quite a while ago.

0:37:47.210 --> 0:37:49.770
<v Speaker 1>If you don't know the NARS blushes, they just literally

0:37:50.030 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>are foolproof, easy to use, very great pigment, but you

0:37:54.660 --> 0:37:57.020
<v Speaker 1>can't really overuse them. I've had the powder for years

0:37:57.100 --> 0:37:59.620
<v Speaker 1>or several of. Maybe a year or two ago, they

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>brought them out in different formulas. So this is like

0:38:01.700 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 1>a little, looks like nail polish. It does look like

0:38:03.340 --> 0:38:07.010
<v Speaker 1>nail polish. And it's just literally like a liquid doe foot. Oh, perfect. Pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you can get it in a cream stick. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I love a cream stick too. Me too. That is

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<v Speaker 1>so pretty. It's the exact same shade as the NARS Orgasm,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of like a peachy pinky. But not

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<v Speaker 1>being a powder, it's kind of a little bit more. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the powder has a lot of luminosity, but this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of does just because of the texture. It looks dewy

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<v Speaker 1>on your hand from face down. So I bought this

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<v Speaker 1>and my best friend bought the stick and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to test them out. I love that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>honestly the most wearable. I think it's the most iconic

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<v Speaker 1>blush of all time. It is definitely the most iconic

0:38:40.610 --> 0:38:42.069
<v Speaker 1>blush of all time. So now you can have your

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<v Speaker 1>orgasm in a little pot. And so it's $ 59, which

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<v Speaker 1>again is not that affordable but way more wearable and

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<v Speaker 1>it's in glass. And I don't know why I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hate on your blush. Are you hating on my blush? No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I recently got into blush thanks to Kel.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm still kind of, you know, working out. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still kind of. convincing myself that spending money on

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<v Speaker 1>it is okay. Ali, thank you so much for joining us,

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<v Speaker 1>not just on the show, filling in for Kel, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the YouBeauty team, because there's an amazing, big, hardworking

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<v Speaker 1>team that work on the YouBeauty brand. And then Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>and I just get to talk and get wrangled and

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<v Speaker 1>bossed around because we're very naughty. We do wrangle you.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly's voice should be back next week. What else is happening?

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<v Speaker 2>So we have Masterclass coming up. Our October Masterclass will

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<v Speaker 2>be dropping into feeds on Tuesday. It will be yourself, myself,

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<v Speaker 2>and the lovely Erin. And For October we are wrapping up.

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest beauty controversies of this year, and I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit of an industry recap, and our

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<v Speaker 1>opinions might be a little bit spicy. So that's it

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<v Speaker 1>for now. You can follow us everywhere, not literally, but

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<v Speaker 1>And watch us somewhere else. I forget. We're everywhere. We're everywhere. Oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And until next week for the Masterclass Yubies, have a

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<v Speaker 1>great weekend. Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on

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<v Speaker 2>which we have recorded this podcast.