1 00:00:10,614 --> 00:00:15,254 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges 2 00:00:15,334 --> 00:00:18,134 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,214 --> 00:00:18,934 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:22,094 --> 00:00:25,334 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily 5 00:00:25,374 --> 00:00:28,694 Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. Everything we thought we knew about 6 00:00:28,694 --> 00:00:31,654 Speaker 2: women's bodies and exercise has been turned on its head. 7 00:00:32,094 --> 00:00:35,054 Speaker 2: Maybe those early morning workouts on an empty stomach might 8 00:00:35,094 --> 00:00:38,214 Speaker 2: be doing more harm than good. Plus, if you've been 9 00:00:38,254 --> 00:00:41,694 Speaker 2: feeling a bit mess since January, you're not alone. April 10 00:00:41,734 --> 00:00:44,294 Speaker 2: theory dictates the real start of the year is just 11 00:00:44,494 --> 00:00:47,614 Speaker 2: upon us. Before we get to those stories, here's Clam 12 00:00:47,694 --> 00:00:50,494 Speaker 2: Murphy with the latest from the Quickie newsroom for Monday, 13 00:00:50,654 --> 00:00:51,774 Speaker 2: April seven. 14 00:00:51,934 --> 00:00:55,254 Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. After backlash to policies resembling those of the 15 00:00:55,254 --> 00:00:58,814 Speaker 1: Trump administration and polling showing them sliding behind labor as 16 00:00:58,814 --> 00:01:01,534 Speaker 1: we head into the federal election on May three, Peter 17 00:01:01,614 --> 00:01:04,734 Speaker 1: Dutton has announced he's dumping the public Servants work from 18 00:01:04,774 --> 00:01:08,334 Speaker 1: Home Push you Guv's Paul Smith said that Dutton's personal 19 00:01:08,374 --> 00:01:11,614 Speaker 1: satisfaction rating has sunk like a stone to his lowest 20 00:01:11,654 --> 00:01:15,134 Speaker 1: ever in Yugov's Public Data polls since he tied himself 21 00:01:15,174 --> 00:01:18,254 Speaker 1: to Trump style policies of banning work from home and 22 00:01:18,334 --> 00:01:22,614 Speaker 1: sacking forty thousand public sector workers. Labour also pushed how 23 00:01:22,614 --> 00:01:26,574 Speaker 1: this would disproportionately impact women, and that banning public servants 24 00:01:26,614 --> 00:01:30,054 Speaker 1: from working from home would make affected families seven hundred 25 00:01:30,054 --> 00:01:33,374 Speaker 1: and forty dollars a week worse off. Shadow Finance Minister 26 00:01:33,494 --> 00:01:35,694 Speaker 1: Jane Hume, who initially said that it will be an 27 00:01:35,814 --> 00:01:39,214 Speaker 1: expectation of a Dutton Liberal government that all members of 28 00:01:39,254 --> 00:01:42,054 Speaker 1: the Australian public Service work from the office five days 29 00:01:42,094 --> 00:01:45,094 Speaker 1: a week, released a statement saying we have listened and 30 00:01:45,254 --> 00:01:49,214 Speaker 1: understood that flexible work, including work from home, is part 31 00:01:49,254 --> 00:01:51,814 Speaker 1: of getting the best out of any workforce, saying there 32 00:01:51,814 --> 00:01:54,854 Speaker 1: will be no change to flexible working arrangements or working 33 00:01:54,934 --> 00:01:58,774 Speaker 1: from home arrangements for the public service under a coalition government. 34 00:01:59,174 --> 00:02:02,294 Speaker 1: The coalition has also promised not to remove forty one 35 00:02:02,334 --> 00:02:06,254 Speaker 1: thousand APS jobs, saying they will instead achieve the downsizing 36 00:02:06,294 --> 00:02:09,134 Speaker 1: of the government through a hiring freeze and natural attrition. 37 00:02:09,614 --> 00:02:12,174 Speaker 1: The military and Army Reserve will be exempt from the 38 00:02:12,254 --> 00:02:15,214 Speaker 1: hiring freeze. This change now places a dent in the 39 00:02:15,254 --> 00:02:18,174 Speaker 1: coalition's plans to fund more than eight billion dollars in 40 00:02:18,254 --> 00:02:21,694 Speaker 1: health spending and other commitments, with the estimated twenty four 41 00:02:21,734 --> 00:02:25,214 Speaker 1: billion in savings coming from those job cuts. Ozzies are 42 00:02:25,254 --> 00:02:27,894 Speaker 1: being worn to monitor for symptoms of measles after a 43 00:02:27,934 --> 00:02:30,574 Speaker 1: person who didn't realize they were infected with the virus 44 00:02:30,854 --> 00:02:34,814 Speaker 1: visited locations around Queensland. The tourists who just arrived from 45 00:02:34,814 --> 00:02:39,294 Speaker 1: overseas visited Australia Zoo, a mini golf venue, train stations, 46 00:02:39,454 --> 00:02:42,334 Speaker 1: shops and hostels around Brisbane, the Gold Coast and the 47 00:02:42,374 --> 00:02:46,734 Speaker 1: Sunshine Coast between April two and April five. Authorities are 48 00:02:46,734 --> 00:02:48,814 Speaker 1: calling on anyone who may have also been in these 49 00:02:48,854 --> 00:02:52,894 Speaker 1: places to monitor for symptoms, which include a fever, tiredness, 50 00:02:52,934 --> 00:02:56,174 Speaker 1: a cough, running nose, and red inflamed eyes, which then 51 00:02:56,254 --> 00:02:59,134 Speaker 1: leads to a blotchy red rash. It was announced over 52 00:02:59,174 --> 00:03:02,014 Speaker 1: the weekend that a second child has died from measles 53 00:03:02,014 --> 00:03:04,814 Speaker 1: in the US state of Texas. As an outbreak there's 54 00:03:04,854 --> 00:03:08,814 Speaker 1: infected nearly five hundred people since January continues to spread. 55 00:03:09,094 --> 00:03:11,334 Speaker 1: Health h authorities are calling on families to get their 56 00:03:11,414 --> 00:03:15,454 Speaker 1: kids vaccinated. The two doses of the MMR vaccine ninety 57 00:03:15,494 --> 00:03:20,094 Speaker 1: seven percent effective in preventing infection. US President Donald Trump's 58 00:03:20,134 --> 00:03:23,294 Speaker 1: tariffs has seen nearly ten trillion dollars wiped off the 59 00:03:23,294 --> 00:03:27,934 Speaker 1: global stock markets as companies suspend exports into America while 60 00:03:27,974 --> 00:03:31,814 Speaker 1: the world rearranges itself to life without US trade. China 61 00:03:31,854 --> 00:03:35,094 Speaker 1: retaliated on Friday, placing a thirty four percent tariff on 62 00:03:35,134 --> 00:03:39,694 Speaker 1: many US goods and barring imports from some American producers completely, 63 00:03:40,014 --> 00:03:43,454 Speaker 1: but UK Prime Minister Kirs Stamer held emergency talks without 64 00:03:43,454 --> 00:03:46,894 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi, saying an all our trade war 65 00:03:46,934 --> 00:03:50,814 Speaker 1: would be extremely damaging. Already, the world's biggest bank, JP 66 00:03:50,934 --> 00:03:53,814 Speaker 1: Morgan Chase, has predicted a sixty percent chance of a 67 00:03:53,934 --> 00:03:58,174 Speaker 1: US recession, which could impact the entire world. Protests were 68 00:03:58,214 --> 00:04:00,894 Speaker 1: held across the US and Europe on Saturday to oppose 69 00:04:00,934 --> 00:04:04,214 Speaker 1: Trump's policies, while the President took to social media to 70 00:04:04,254 --> 00:04:06,654 Speaker 1: claim that other nations had been hit much harder than 71 00:04:06,694 --> 00:04:09,814 Speaker 1: the US, calling on Americans to hang tough that it 72 00:04:09,854 --> 00:04:12,654 Speaker 1: won't be easy, but the end result will be historic. 73 00:04:13,174 --> 00:04:16,574 Speaker 1: Researchers at the University of Sydney have identified a casual 74 00:04:16,614 --> 00:04:19,734 Speaker 1: link between loneliness and early death in middle aged women. 75 00:04:20,134 --> 00:04:22,694 Speaker 1: The study looked at factors contributing to the health of 76 00:04:22,734 --> 00:04:25,774 Speaker 1: more than fifty seven thousand women aged between forty eight 77 00:04:25,774 --> 00:04:29,574 Speaker 1: and fifty five, tracking their health over fifteen years. Women 78 00:04:29,614 --> 00:04:32,254 Speaker 1: who did not report loneliness had a five percent risk 79 00:04:32,294 --> 00:04:35,854 Speaker 1: of dying. Those who did experience loneliness tripled their risk 80 00:04:35,934 --> 00:04:39,574 Speaker 1: to fifteen percent. Loneliness has been linked to adverse health, 81 00:04:39,574 --> 00:04:44,334 Speaker 1: including cardiovascular disease, diabetes, depression, and the development of dementia. 82 00:04:44,854 --> 00:04:48,174 Speaker 1: Actor Paul Gimmarti says the presence of Dame Maggie Smith, 83 00:04:48,214 --> 00:04:51,134 Speaker 1: who passed away in September last year, is still felt 84 00:04:51,134 --> 00:04:54,374 Speaker 1: in the last Downton Abbey movie, the Grand Finale. Gimmarti 85 00:04:54,454 --> 00:04:57,414 Speaker 1: has reprised his role as Harold Levison in the finale, 86 00:04:57,654 --> 00:05:00,294 Speaker 1: saying it was not the same to film without day Maggie, 87 00:05:00,294 --> 00:05:02,054 Speaker 1: but that it felt very much like it was in 88 00:05:02,094 --> 00:05:04,854 Speaker 1: her honor, and that she certainly feels present throughout the 89 00:05:04,894 --> 00:05:07,574 Speaker 1: whole thing, even if her character Violet Crawley is not 90 00:05:07,654 --> 00:05:10,414 Speaker 1: physically there. He says he was shocked to be asked 91 00:05:10,454 --> 00:05:13,174 Speaker 1: to return to the franchise because his character played such 92 00:05:13,174 --> 00:05:16,214 Speaker 1: a small role, but says Harold Levinson plays a big 93 00:05:16,334 --> 00:05:19,454 Speaker 1: role in how this storyline plays out in the last movie. 94 00:05:19,854 --> 00:05:22,854 Speaker 2: Thanks Claire next, everything we thought we knew about women's 95 00:05:22,894 --> 00:05:32,254 Speaker 2: bodies in fitness good under the microscope. For decades, women 96 00:05:32,294 --> 00:05:35,334 Speaker 2: have been following fitness and nutrition advice that was typically 97 00:05:35,334 --> 00:05:38,334 Speaker 2: developed for men, only to end up frustrated when the 98 00:05:38,374 --> 00:05:42,934 Speaker 2: same protocols don't deliver the expected results. And now, according 99 00:05:42,974 --> 00:05:46,774 Speaker 2: to Stanford University's doctor Stacy Simms, we finally know why 100 00:05:47,334 --> 00:05:51,334 Speaker 2: because women are not small men. From what time of 101 00:05:51,454 --> 00:05:54,134 Speaker 2: day we should exercise, to how many reps we should do, 102 00:05:54,374 --> 00:05:57,414 Speaker 2: and even whether those ice barbs are actually good for us, 103 00:05:57,734 --> 00:06:00,094 Speaker 2: it turns out pretty much everything we've been told about 104 00:06:00,094 --> 00:06:04,174 Speaker 2: fitness needs a female focused overhoul Mumma MIA's beauty and 105 00:06:04,214 --> 00:06:06,854 Speaker 2: lifestyle editor Aaron Doherty has been looking into how we 106 00:06:06,894 --> 00:06:11,214 Speaker 2: approach women's fitness erin This is pretty mind blowing stuff. 107 00:06:11,574 --> 00:06:13,254 Speaker 2: One of the biggest myths we've been getting wrong. 108 00:06:13,654 --> 00:06:17,454 Speaker 3: The craziest thing about this is that almost everything we 109 00:06:17,534 --> 00:06:20,614 Speaker 3: know about fitness has been based on men's bodies, which 110 00:06:20,654 --> 00:06:23,694 Speaker 3: is obviously wild but somehow not surprising at the same time. 111 00:06:24,214 --> 00:06:28,574 Speaker 3: So doctor Stacy Simms, who spoke on the Male Robins podcast, Basically, 112 00:06:28,574 --> 00:06:32,534 Speaker 3: what you've been researching is the gender differences in exercise 113 00:06:32,574 --> 00:06:35,854 Speaker 3: and nutrition, and it turns out that most of our 114 00:06:35,934 --> 00:06:42,214 Speaker 3: exercise science completely ignores female physiology, which is insane. So 115 00:06:42,334 --> 00:06:45,734 Speaker 3: what's been happening is that we've been applying male focus 116 00:06:45,854 --> 00:06:48,894 Speaker 3: research to women's bodies for decades, and that's why so 117 00:06:48,974 --> 00:06:53,014 Speaker 3: many women feel frustrated when those kind of traditional fitness 118 00:06:53,294 --> 00:06:56,894 Speaker 3: advice just doesn't work for them. So even something as 119 00:06:57,094 --> 00:07:00,614 Speaker 3: fundamental as how teenage girls move, so their center of 120 00:07:00,654 --> 00:07:05,694 Speaker 3: gravity actually changes during puberty, making traditional sports like netball 121 00:07:06,094 --> 00:07:09,054 Speaker 3: or football or soccer, those kind of movements are really 122 00:07:09,134 --> 00:07:12,774 Speaker 3: uncomfort which is why you'll see many sporty girls drop 123 00:07:12,814 --> 00:07:16,854 Speaker 3: out around sixteen. So that's just a really interesting kind 124 00:07:16,854 --> 00:07:19,174 Speaker 3: of fact that's come out of this. And it's not 125 00:07:19,254 --> 00:07:22,574 Speaker 3: just about different muscles, it's about a whole fundamentally different 126 00:07:22,654 --> 00:07:23,854 Speaker 3: psychological system. 127 00:07:24,574 --> 00:07:26,854 Speaker 2: This is why I have to wear ankle braces whenever 128 00:07:26,894 --> 00:07:29,334 Speaker 2: I play netball now. It's because when I was a teenager, 129 00:07:29,454 --> 00:07:32,054 Speaker 2: clearly my body was not comfortable moving in that way. 130 00:07:32,654 --> 00:07:34,334 Speaker 2: I feel so vindicated, thank you. 131 00:07:35,854 --> 00:07:37,974 Speaker 3: I think we all do, because that's the thing. You 132 00:07:38,094 --> 00:07:41,654 Speaker 3: wonder how you were so able to pivot, jump and 133 00:07:41,694 --> 00:07:44,454 Speaker 3: do all those crazy moves when you're a teenager and 134 00:07:44,494 --> 00:07:46,334 Speaker 3: now you can barely walk up a flight to stairs, 135 00:07:46,374 --> 00:07:47,934 Speaker 3: So I feel you. 136 00:07:48,214 --> 00:07:51,534 Speaker 2: Let's talk about early morning workouts. Why is exercising on 137 00:07:51,534 --> 00:07:53,694 Speaker 2: an empty stomach such a problem for women, because I 138 00:07:53,694 --> 00:07:55,574 Speaker 2: feel like most of us would just be getting up 139 00:07:55,614 --> 00:07:57,214 Speaker 2: out of bed and going straight away. 140 00:07:57,694 --> 00:08:00,894 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is so fascinating because this is something that 141 00:08:00,974 --> 00:08:05,494 Speaker 3: I've always done as well and fasted before morning workouts, 142 00:08:05,534 --> 00:08:07,694 Speaker 3: and a lot of women do it because it's supposedly 143 00:08:07,734 --> 00:08:10,654 Speaker 3: supposed to help burn more fat, but it can actually 144 00:08:10,694 --> 00:08:14,654 Speaker 3: work against women because of our hormonal systems, they respond 145 00:08:14,694 --> 00:08:18,854 Speaker 3: completely differently to exercise and stress than men's bodies do. 146 00:08:19,254 --> 00:08:22,254 Speaker 3: So when we exercise on an empty stomach, particularly in 147 00:08:22,254 --> 00:08:25,454 Speaker 3: the morning, our bodies can interpret this as a threat 148 00:08:25,614 --> 00:08:29,614 Speaker 3: or a stressor. So this ends up triggering cortisol, which 149 00:08:29,654 --> 00:08:32,974 Speaker 3: is the stress hormone, and that signals the body to 150 00:08:33,054 --> 00:08:36,894 Speaker 3: preserve fat stores and break down your muscle tissues, which 151 00:08:36,934 --> 00:08:40,054 Speaker 3: is literally the opposite of what we're trying to achieve 152 00:08:40,174 --> 00:08:43,734 Speaker 3: when we're working out. So doctor Stacy Sim's on the podcast, 153 00:08:43,774 --> 00:08:45,614 Speaker 3: she said, do you obviously need like a small pre 154 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:49,774 Speaker 3: workout snack with carbs and protein about thirty minutes before 155 00:08:49,854 --> 00:08:53,854 Speaker 3: morning exercise to help support the benefits that you're after. 156 00:08:54,054 --> 00:08:57,734 Speaker 3: So just really interesting because that's a myth that I 157 00:08:57,774 --> 00:09:00,374 Speaker 3: guess has been around for quite some time. 158 00:09:00,854 --> 00:09:03,334 Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that is important for women 159 00:09:03,374 --> 00:09:06,374 Speaker 2: to be doing, maybe more of than men, is strength training. 160 00:09:06,374 --> 00:09:07,774 Speaker 2: What has doctor sim said about that? 161 00:09:08,374 --> 00:09:12,494 Speaker 3: So she talked about strength training as basically a really 162 00:09:12,654 --> 00:09:17,054 Speaker 3: crucial thing for women across all life stages, but especially 163 00:09:17,094 --> 00:09:21,334 Speaker 3: as we move into perimenopause. So unlike what a lot 164 00:09:21,374 --> 00:09:23,654 Speaker 3: of people fear, I guess a lot of women think 165 00:09:23,694 --> 00:09:26,974 Speaker 3: that lifting weights will make you bulky, but women simply 166 00:09:27,054 --> 00:09:31,214 Speaker 3: don't have enough testosterone for that. So it's not necessarily 167 00:09:31,214 --> 00:09:33,134 Speaker 3: you're going to lift weights and you're gonna look like 168 00:09:33,174 --> 00:09:35,894 Speaker 3: a body builder. But what strength training can actually do 169 00:09:35,974 --> 00:09:38,694 Speaker 3: is help build more lean muscle, which will help in 170 00:09:38,734 --> 00:09:43,614 Speaker 3: turn regulate our hormones and our metabolism. And it's also essential, 171 00:09:43,854 --> 00:09:47,574 Speaker 3: she said, for maintaining bone density, and that becomes really 172 00:09:47,574 --> 00:09:51,014 Speaker 3: critical as we age and our estrogen levels begin to drop, 173 00:09:51,134 --> 00:09:53,934 Speaker 3: especially during menopause. So she said for younger women in 174 00:09:53,974 --> 00:09:56,734 Speaker 3: their thirties, it's kind of like use it or lose 175 00:09:56,734 --> 00:10:00,254 Speaker 3: it years in terms of high impact exercise and how 176 00:10:00,454 --> 00:10:04,374 Speaker 3: strength training will help build more bone density that will 177 00:10:04,694 --> 00:10:07,254 Speaker 3: help protect them in the long run. So when they 178 00:10:07,294 --> 00:10:10,894 Speaker 3: approach menopause and they the stages in life still have 179 00:10:11,174 --> 00:10:14,094 Speaker 3: that build up of bone density and estrogen. 180 00:10:14,974 --> 00:10:18,054 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of different stages of life, Erin, is there 181 00:10:18,094 --> 00:10:21,734 Speaker 2: any information out there about what kind of approach we 182 00:10:21,734 --> 00:10:24,534 Speaker 2: should be taken to exercise depending on how old we are? 183 00:10:25,334 --> 00:10:27,574 Speaker 3: Yes, so, she said for women in their thirties, the 184 00:10:27,614 --> 00:10:30,894 Speaker 3: focus should be on bite sized workouts that fit into 185 00:10:31,534 --> 00:10:35,054 Speaker 3: really hectic schedules which we all have, plus high impact 186 00:10:35,134 --> 00:10:38,494 Speaker 3: exercise to help build that bone density while like estrogen 187 00:10:38,614 --> 00:10:42,374 Speaker 3: levels are still high. She also said that as women 188 00:10:42,614 --> 00:10:46,454 Speaker 3: enterpaering menopause, the focus should then shift to strength training 189 00:10:46,734 --> 00:10:49,934 Speaker 3: and breath work and things like mindfulness to help manage 190 00:10:49,974 --> 00:10:54,414 Speaker 3: those hormonal fluctuations that you'll experience during that time. Then, 191 00:10:54,494 --> 00:10:59,174 Speaker 3: moving to postmenopausal women, strength training becomes even more critical 192 00:10:59,294 --> 00:11:01,974 Speaker 3: when it comes to bone health and longevity, along with 193 00:11:02,174 --> 00:11:06,614 Speaker 3: movements that will help focus on balance and flexibility. But overall, 194 00:11:06,614 --> 00:11:08,934 Speaker 3: she said, basically, the worst thing that women can do 195 00:11:09,094 --> 00:11:12,494 Speaker 3: is stop moving as they age. So that's why we 196 00:11:12,574 --> 00:11:15,734 Speaker 3: need to find out what appropriate movement we can do 197 00:11:15,974 --> 00:11:16,934 Speaker 3: for our age group. 198 00:11:17,294 --> 00:11:18,814 Speaker 2: Aeron before we let you go. The last thing I 199 00:11:18,854 --> 00:11:22,694 Speaker 2: have to ask you about cold plunges. I am sure 200 00:11:22,734 --> 00:11:26,574 Speaker 2: that you've definitely stumbled upon in your feed people dunking 201 00:11:26,614 --> 00:11:30,094 Speaker 2: themselves in big buckets of ice water. Do these have 202 00:11:30,214 --> 00:11:32,454 Speaker 2: actual benefits for women or is it just a thing 203 00:11:32,494 --> 00:11:33,934 Speaker 2: we've all hopped on the bandwagon off. 204 00:11:34,534 --> 00:11:37,734 Speaker 3: Yes, these are everywhere and everyone's kind of swearing by 205 00:11:37,774 --> 00:11:41,094 Speaker 3: them for athletic performance and making you feel bad that 206 00:11:41,214 --> 00:11:44,534 Speaker 3: you don't do them. But according to doctor Sims, they 207 00:11:44,574 --> 00:11:48,054 Speaker 3: can actually be really counterproductive for women, which was so 208 00:11:48,254 --> 00:11:51,534 Speaker 3: surprising because it's the complete opposite for males. Of course, 209 00:11:51,774 --> 00:11:56,414 Speaker 3: with women, our hormonal systems respond completely differently to extreme 210 00:11:56,534 --> 00:12:00,654 Speaker 3: temperature changes, so when women do cold plunges, we're actually 211 00:12:00,934 --> 00:12:04,454 Speaker 3: particularly if you're going through your menstrual cycle, it can 212 00:12:04,494 --> 00:12:09,214 Speaker 3: actually trigger a stress response that can end up impairing 213 00:12:09,254 --> 00:12:13,094 Speaker 3: your recovery rather than enhancing it. So our bodies interpret 214 00:12:13,174 --> 00:12:16,334 Speaker 3: that extreme cold as just like another stress to deal 215 00:12:16,374 --> 00:12:18,974 Speaker 3: with on top of everything else, on top of perhaps 216 00:12:19,054 --> 00:12:21,494 Speaker 3: you know you're not eating before you actually do it 217 00:12:21,534 --> 00:12:23,974 Speaker 3: as well, so that's just all over a bad time. 218 00:12:24,414 --> 00:12:28,654 Speaker 3: But what doctor Stacy Simms recommended was kind of more 219 00:12:28,694 --> 00:12:32,894 Speaker 3: moderate temperature contrast therapy. She said, going into the sauna 220 00:12:32,974 --> 00:12:35,614 Speaker 3: like two times a week can have massive benefits, and 221 00:12:35,974 --> 00:12:38,494 Speaker 3: looking at the timing as well. The timing matters too, 222 00:12:38,574 --> 00:12:42,534 Speaker 3: so trying to align these different types of recovery methods 223 00:12:42,534 --> 00:12:46,574 Speaker 3: with our hormonal cycles and that will make a huge difference. 224 00:12:46,814 --> 00:12:49,334 Speaker 3: She basically said, like, this is the exact type of 225 00:12:49,494 --> 00:12:53,374 Speaker 3: female specific knowledge that's been missing for so long from 226 00:12:53,414 --> 00:12:54,894 Speaker 3: mainstream fitness advice. 227 00:12:59,094 --> 00:13:02,334 Speaker 2: If you've been feeling a bit off lately, you're not alone. 228 00:13:02,694 --> 00:13:06,454 Speaker 2: There's been a general sense of ugh floating around since January, 229 00:13:06,934 --> 00:13:10,054 Speaker 2: with people feeling burnt out despite only being a quarter 230 00:13:10,174 --> 00:13:13,774 Speaker 2: of the way through the year. But April theory suggests 231 00:13:13,814 --> 00:13:16,614 Speaker 2: we've been looking at the calendar all wrong, that no, 232 00:13:16,894 --> 00:13:20,494 Speaker 2: not January, but this fourth month into the year is 233 00:13:20,534 --> 00:13:24,654 Speaker 2: actually the real start to twenty twenty five. Mamma MIA's 234 00:13:24,814 --> 00:13:29,134 Speaker 2: senior Weekend editor, Alex Nicholson, is all across April theory. Alex, 235 00:13:29,374 --> 00:13:32,294 Speaker 2: what exactly is the theory and why are we suddenly 236 00:13:32,334 --> 00:13:35,374 Speaker 2: seeing it everywhere? Basically, the April theory is this idea 237 00:13:35,494 --> 00:13:39,654 Speaker 2: that in April we get new beginnings, new things happen, 238 00:13:39,774 --> 00:13:40,574 Speaker 2: good things happen. 239 00:13:40,694 --> 00:13:43,294 Speaker 4: It's basically like restarting the new year. 240 00:13:43,574 --> 00:13:45,774 Speaker 2: Oh. I feel like for people who made all these 241 00:13:45,854 --> 00:13:48,894 Speaker 2: great New Year commitments across New Year's Eve and they've 242 00:13:48,894 --> 00:13:50,814 Speaker 2: gotten to April and checked it and thought, oh crap, 243 00:13:50,854 --> 00:13:53,694 Speaker 2: I didn't do that. This is a good reset for them. 244 00:13:53,694 --> 00:13:56,374 Speaker 2: But there is actually an astrological reasoning behind it. 245 00:13:56,494 --> 00:13:58,374 Speaker 4: Yes, there is the calendar that we go off is 246 00:13:58,414 --> 00:14:02,334 Speaker 4: the Gregorian calendar, and that's the one that says that January. 247 00:14:01,974 --> 00:14:03,534 Speaker 3: Is the first place of jan December. 248 00:14:03,654 --> 00:14:07,814 Speaker 4: Janeit December. But according to the astrological calendar, airy season 249 00:14:08,254 --> 00:14:11,454 Speaker 4: is the start of the year. Every season starts late March, 250 00:14:11,534 --> 00:14:13,654 Speaker 4: and the energy kind of kicks into gear in April. 251 00:14:13,814 --> 00:14:15,734 Speaker 2: I love that. As an aries, I feel like I 252 00:14:15,774 --> 00:14:18,414 Speaker 2: am the natural born leader of the calendar. So I 253 00:14:18,454 --> 00:14:22,254 Speaker 2: feel very validated in that. Why are people finding this 254 00:14:22,374 --> 00:14:24,814 Speaker 2: theory so appealing? Like, what is it about the thought 255 00:14:24,814 --> 00:14:27,134 Speaker 2: of the year actually starting in April that people are 256 00:14:27,134 --> 00:14:27,814 Speaker 2: resonating with. 257 00:14:28,174 --> 00:14:30,654 Speaker 4: I mean, aside from the fact that it's like nice 258 00:14:30,654 --> 00:14:32,934 Speaker 4: to have a bit of an opportunity for a do over, 259 00:14:33,214 --> 00:14:36,214 Speaker 4: the first few months of the year anecdotally have felt 260 00:14:36,294 --> 00:14:38,694 Speaker 4: kind of tough for people. I think we rolled out 261 00:14:38,734 --> 00:14:41,814 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four into twenty twenty five without a break. 262 00:14:41,934 --> 00:14:45,134 Speaker 4: The news has been heavy, Everything's been kind of a lot. 263 00:14:45,494 --> 00:14:48,614 Speaker 4: People are feeling drained. So even though we're a quarter 264 00:14:48,694 --> 00:14:50,294 Speaker 4: of the way into the year, it's kind of a 265 00:14:50,494 --> 00:14:53,454 Speaker 4: nice time to take the opportunity to reset. 266 00:14:53,774 --> 00:14:53,974 Speaker 3: Yeah. 267 00:14:53,974 --> 00:14:55,974 Speaker 2: I feel like we always say that January is the 268 00:14:55,974 --> 00:14:58,414 Speaker 2: false start to February, and that's really when the year starts. 269 00:14:58,414 --> 00:14:59,934 Speaker 2: But I like the idea of pushing that out to 270 00:14:59,974 --> 00:15:03,254 Speaker 2: April way more. I mentioned before that New Year's Eve 271 00:15:03,494 --> 00:15:05,694 Speaker 2: resolutions and maybe you didn't quite stick to them. Now's 272 00:15:05,734 --> 00:15:08,374 Speaker 2: the time to reset for that. Is there anything in 273 00:15:08,374 --> 00:15:11,454 Speaker 2: the April theory that suggest how we should approach goal setting? 274 00:15:12,014 --> 00:15:15,534 Speaker 4: The April theory kind of gives you permission to start again, 275 00:15:15,814 --> 00:15:18,094 Speaker 4: to reset those goals. So if you haven't kind of 276 00:15:18,174 --> 00:15:20,894 Speaker 4: hit those New Year's resolutions, or you're like I've set 277 00:15:20,934 --> 00:15:23,054 Speaker 4: all these goals and I'm not even close to meeting them, 278 00:15:23,294 --> 00:15:27,014 Speaker 4: that's okay. Wipe the slate clean, start again. This is 279 00:15:27,054 --> 00:15:29,774 Speaker 4: your new new year. Have you been adopting this in 280 00:15:29,814 --> 00:15:34,454 Speaker 4: your own micolics, Yes, to some extent I have. For me, 281 00:15:34,534 --> 00:15:37,254 Speaker 4: it's sort of more just about feeling a bit hopeful, 282 00:15:37,374 --> 00:15:41,334 Speaker 4: and I kind of feel more inspired to start taking 283 00:15:41,694 --> 00:15:44,854 Speaker 4: new positive steps, or like setting some new goals or 284 00:15:45,094 --> 00:15:48,054 Speaker 4: deciding to go and do that eight weeks singing course 285 00:15:48,054 --> 00:15:49,894 Speaker 4: that I've been wanting to do. I like it for 286 00:15:49,934 --> 00:15:52,654 Speaker 4: you whip out the craft projects. You know, it's just 287 00:15:52,774 --> 00:15:55,494 Speaker 4: kind of a hopeful vibe. So if you're feeling a 288 00:15:55,494 --> 00:15:58,454 Speaker 4: little bit too ambitious across the New Year holiday period 289 00:15:58,494 --> 00:16:01,454 Speaker 4: and you're rethinking some of those resolutions, that's okay. That 290 00:16:01,494 --> 00:16:04,054 Speaker 4: folds into April theory. Or if you're like I've been 291 00:16:04,054 --> 00:16:05,774 Speaker 4: a bit slack, maybe now's the time to get my 292 00:16:05,774 --> 00:16:08,814 Speaker 4: button to gear. That can also fold into April theory. 293 00:16:08,894 --> 00:16:09,094 Speaker 3: Yeah. 294 00:16:09,094 --> 00:16:13,334 Speaker 4: Absolutely, But also the energy of April is just their regardless, 295 00:16:13,334 --> 00:16:15,254 Speaker 4: so you don't even really need to do anything. You 296 00:16:15,294 --> 00:16:18,774 Speaker 4: could just let April and the universe of the stars 297 00:16:18,854 --> 00:16:21,174 Speaker 4: work their magic. Or if you want to work with 298 00:16:21,254 --> 00:16:24,934 Speaker 4: those energies, it's the perfect time to leave behind the 299 00:16:24,974 --> 00:16:27,694 Speaker 4: things that are not meant for you and to embrace 300 00:16:28,054 --> 00:16:32,014 Speaker 4: new projects, new beginnings, and just assent that everything is 301 00:16:32,054 --> 00:16:32,854 Speaker 4: going to be a okay. 302 00:16:34,414 --> 00:16:36,614 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with 303 00:16:36,694 --> 00:16:39,174 Speaker 2: us today before you pop off. In our show notes, 304 00:16:39,214 --> 00:16:42,094 Speaker 2: we've linked them. Umamea vote survey. 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