1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,305 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:20,545 --> 00:00:22,025 Speaker 3: Makeup is My Therapy. 5 00:00:22,265 --> 00:00:25,265 Speaker 2: I'm in love, I'm obsess and I don't even feel 6 00:00:25,305 --> 00:00:26,065 Speaker 2: guilty about it. 7 00:00:26,545 --> 00:00:31,185 Speaker 1: Nana, Hello, and welcome to you beauty. This is the 8 00:00:31,225 --> 00:00:32,425 Speaker 1: podcast for your Face. 9 00:00:32,745 --> 00:00:36,545 Speaker 4: I'm Keller McCarran and this is the formula, the one 10 00:00:36,665 --> 00:00:38,945 Speaker 4: day a week that I get to sit down with 11 00:00:39,225 --> 00:00:43,625 Speaker 4: the most interesting people within this wonderful wide world of 12 00:00:43,665 --> 00:00:48,185 Speaker 4: beauty and pick their brains. And today we are talking nails. 13 00:00:48,345 --> 00:00:50,745 Speaker 4: Except nails aren't just like going and getting a money. 14 00:00:51,225 --> 00:00:55,385 Speaker 4: Nails can be like such a talking point and a 15 00:00:55,425 --> 00:00:59,745 Speaker 4: real representation of someone's personality which kind of giving. 16 00:00:59,505 --> 00:01:00,585 Speaker 1: Basic bitch right now. 17 00:01:00,745 --> 00:01:03,465 Speaker 4: But today we've got one of the most iconic now 18 00:01:03,585 --> 00:01:08,025 Speaker 4: artists in Australia, Sarah Elmers. She has kindly come up 19 00:01:08,025 --> 00:01:10,505 Speaker 4: to Melbourne to join me on a little couchy, so 20 00:01:10,585 --> 00:01:11,465 Speaker 4: let's bring her on in. 21 00:01:11,865 --> 00:01:14,025 Speaker 1: Sarah, thank you so much for joining us. 22 00:01:14,145 --> 00:01:14,865 Speaker 3: Thank you. 23 00:01:14,865 --> 00:01:17,905 Speaker 4: You have been working with nails and nail art for 24 00:01:17,905 --> 00:01:21,825 Speaker 4: almost two decades. Yeah wow, how did you get started? 25 00:01:21,905 --> 00:01:24,825 Speaker 4: Like you're very big on socials, so walk us through 26 00:01:24,865 --> 00:01:27,185 Speaker 4: your career, How did you get started, how to get buffed? 27 00:01:27,305 --> 00:01:29,025 Speaker 4: Like all come about? Tell us everything. 28 00:01:29,225 --> 00:01:31,705 Speaker 3: So, yeah, like you said, I've been doing now for 29 00:01:31,705 --> 00:01:34,585 Speaker 3: twenty years. I actually grew up and did my school 30 00:01:34,625 --> 00:01:37,905 Speaker 3: years in the UK, so I got my now certificate 31 00:01:37,945 --> 00:01:40,785 Speaker 3: in the UK and now's and now art was a 32 00:01:40,905 --> 00:01:43,105 Speaker 3: very different vibe back then. It was sort of like 33 00:01:43,145 --> 00:01:46,265 Speaker 3: a glitter tip that was about as French French with 34 00:01:46,305 --> 00:01:49,745 Speaker 3: a little glitter line or something that was about. Yeah. 35 00:01:49,785 --> 00:01:52,625 Speaker 3: That was the sort of iconic you know sets back then, 36 00:01:53,185 --> 00:01:57,065 Speaker 3: and there was a little bit of I guess American influence. 37 00:01:57,105 --> 00:01:59,665 Speaker 3: We had a few in London, some Korean now shops 38 00:01:59,665 --> 00:02:02,345 Speaker 3: that did those like crazy long hooked nows that you 39 00:02:02,345 --> 00:02:05,385 Speaker 3: could get airbrush like then back then, Wow, So I 40 00:02:05,465 --> 00:02:08,505 Speaker 3: used to travel down with my friends and get these 41 00:02:08,585 --> 00:02:09,785 Speaker 3: crazy airbrush Now. 42 00:02:09,945 --> 00:02:12,025 Speaker 1: Was it something that you always loved? Like love? 43 00:02:12,385 --> 00:02:15,905 Speaker 4: It's quite niche. I'm going to be a beauty therapist 44 00:02:15,945 --> 00:02:19,185 Speaker 4: because I really love beauty. Like you wanted to do nails, yes. 45 00:02:19,185 --> 00:02:21,505 Speaker 3: And I wanted them to be Wow. I wanted people 46 00:02:21,585 --> 00:02:23,545 Speaker 3: to see them and be like, oh my god, they're crazy, 47 00:02:23,545 --> 00:02:24,625 Speaker 3: Like where did you get them done? 48 00:02:24,745 --> 00:02:24,985 Speaker 2: Oh? 49 00:02:25,065 --> 00:02:25,625 Speaker 3: That's yeah. 50 00:02:25,785 --> 00:02:26,785 Speaker 1: That's great, though. 51 00:02:26,865 --> 00:02:31,185 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really hard growing up. Surprisingly not the 52 00:02:31,265 --> 00:02:32,865 Speaker 3: type of art that you learn at school, so a 53 00:02:32,865 --> 00:02:35,465 Speaker 3: lot of people do ask that, and I'm kind of like, 54 00:02:35,865 --> 00:02:38,585 Speaker 3: actually failed high school art, but it was because we 55 00:02:38,585 --> 00:02:42,225 Speaker 3: were painting, you know, like realistic fruit bawls and you know, 56 00:02:42,265 --> 00:02:42,745 Speaker 3: the kind of. 57 00:02:42,785 --> 00:02:44,825 Speaker 1: Art you could fail out to be honest, I. 58 00:02:44,825 --> 00:02:46,145 Speaker 3: Literally, I know how bad? 59 00:02:46,225 --> 00:02:46,425 Speaker 2: Is that? 60 00:02:46,745 --> 00:02:47,505 Speaker 1: Very subjective? 61 00:02:48,305 --> 00:02:51,665 Speaker 3: But I was very creative. My mom's really good at sewing, 62 00:02:51,745 --> 00:02:54,745 Speaker 3: and the creative flair was kind of always there. And 63 00:02:54,785 --> 00:02:56,945 Speaker 3: I'm a bit of a perfectionist with things that I 64 00:02:57,105 --> 00:02:59,785 Speaker 3: like doing, and I will just layser focus on it. 65 00:03:00,065 --> 00:03:02,865 Speaker 3: So I think that definitely led to me being a 66 00:03:02,905 --> 00:03:05,825 Speaker 3: good now tech because I wouldn't just stop. 67 00:03:05,545 --> 00:03:07,425 Speaker 1: At like oh yeah, that's okay, off you go. 68 00:03:07,945 --> 00:03:11,665 Speaker 3: It had to be perfect. And when social media kind 69 00:03:11,705 --> 00:03:15,545 Speaker 3: of came around and everything was photos, I had to 70 00:03:15,585 --> 00:03:17,625 Speaker 3: make everything even more perfect because I was like, oh 71 00:03:17,625 --> 00:03:18,865 Speaker 3: my god, now I'm going to stare at it and 72 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:21,185 Speaker 3: I'm going to see that little one imperfection that I did. 73 00:03:21,225 --> 00:03:24,185 Speaker 3: So I really really honed in on those skills, the 74 00:03:24,745 --> 00:03:28,705 Speaker 3: actual Naulah and the character stuff. I have loved Disney 75 00:03:28,785 --> 00:03:30,545 Speaker 3: and cartoons since I was a kid, I used to 76 00:03:30,585 --> 00:03:32,865 Speaker 3: get up really early in the morning on Saturday Disney. 77 00:03:32,945 --> 00:03:35,905 Speaker 3: I'm sure all the millennial young girls did the same thing. 78 00:03:36,265 --> 00:03:40,305 Speaker 3: I just loved all types of cartoons, Mickey, Minnie, especially 79 00:03:40,385 --> 00:03:42,865 Speaker 3: all the princesses, as I think we all do. We 80 00:03:42,905 --> 00:03:45,705 Speaker 3: all imagine that we're Aeriel or we're Bell or something 81 00:03:45,785 --> 00:03:48,065 Speaker 3: when we were a kid, did you. 82 00:03:48,505 --> 00:03:48,665 Speaker 2: Oh? 83 00:03:49,065 --> 00:03:51,745 Speaker 3: So when I first started doing the characters, it was 84 00:03:51,905 --> 00:03:53,785 Speaker 3: half faced characters that I was doing. That was probably 85 00:03:53,785 --> 00:03:56,425 Speaker 3: the very initial stages, and no one really was doing 86 00:03:56,425 --> 00:03:59,305 Speaker 3: anything like that, and people were just amazed. And I 87 00:03:59,345 --> 00:04:01,505 Speaker 3: started doing a little bit of My Little Ponies and 88 00:04:01,545 --> 00:04:03,625 Speaker 3: I had all different My Little Pony sets with like 89 00:04:04,145 --> 00:04:07,665 Speaker 3: mixmashed art on each different nail, and people just went 90 00:04:07,745 --> 00:04:10,785 Speaker 3: crazy for it, and the face social media kind of 91 00:04:10,825 --> 00:04:14,785 Speaker 3: took off, and then slowly Instagram after that. I even 92 00:04:14,985 --> 00:04:17,665 Speaker 3: had the guy who was at that time doing Chloe 93 00:04:17,785 --> 00:04:22,625 Speaker 3: Kardashian's now has recreated one of my sets on Chloe's nails. Yeah, 94 00:04:22,785 --> 00:04:23,665 Speaker 3: really cool. 95 00:04:23,425 --> 00:04:24,825 Speaker 1: So I hope he did. 96 00:04:24,865 --> 00:04:27,305 Speaker 3: He credited me. I was like, that was amazing. Chorn 97 00:04:27,505 --> 00:04:29,545 Speaker 3: legend his name is, and yeah, so that was like 98 00:04:29,545 --> 00:04:32,585 Speaker 3: a pinch me moment, Like what the heck, like people. 99 00:04:32,345 --> 00:04:36,265 Speaker 1: All over the world everywhere. That's cool. 100 00:04:36,305 --> 00:04:38,785 Speaker 3: So yeah, that was really cool. That's I guess kind 101 00:04:38,785 --> 00:04:41,865 Speaker 3: of how it started and how the characters really came 102 00:04:41,905 --> 00:04:42,905 Speaker 3: into things like is. 103 00:04:42,905 --> 00:04:46,385 Speaker 4: It Disney that mainly inspires you? I guess that's your signature. 104 00:04:46,745 --> 00:04:49,705 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's my signature. But also I 105 00:04:49,745 --> 00:04:53,305 Speaker 3: take inspiration from everything, like I'm in the table there, 106 00:04:53,385 --> 00:04:54,745 Speaker 3: like I would be like, oh, I like how those 107 00:04:54,785 --> 00:04:56,985 Speaker 3: stripes come together. I want to do that on a nail. 108 00:04:57,105 --> 00:05:00,225 Speaker 3: Like you really can take inspiration from anything, like. 109 00:05:00,185 --> 00:05:02,185 Speaker 1: How many people are you seeing a day? Because I 110 00:05:02,225 --> 00:05:03,065 Speaker 1: can't imagine that. 111 00:05:03,225 --> 00:05:06,225 Speaker 3: No, short, No, that's the thing, and that when I go, 112 00:05:06,345 --> 00:05:10,785 Speaker 3: I'm like an hour exactly so and that is something 113 00:05:10,825 --> 00:05:13,065 Speaker 3: else again that I am quite a niche I guess 114 00:05:13,065 --> 00:05:15,185 Speaker 3: in that sense. But when I first started, that's why 115 00:05:15,225 --> 00:05:17,625 Speaker 3: the half faced characters were really good. So it would 116 00:05:17,865 --> 00:05:19,705 Speaker 3: it would be a little bit quicker because people weren't 117 00:05:19,745 --> 00:05:21,945 Speaker 3: used to sitting for more than an hour, and. 118 00:05:21,905 --> 00:05:23,785 Speaker 4: When that is quite hard for some people. Yeah, I 119 00:05:23,825 --> 00:05:25,705 Speaker 4: watch TV and I'm like I'm ready to leave. 120 00:05:25,785 --> 00:05:25,945 Speaker 2: Yeah. 121 00:05:26,065 --> 00:05:28,985 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I am their sort of personal shrink 122 00:05:29,025 --> 00:05:29,625 Speaker 3: as well, I. 123 00:05:29,545 --> 00:05:32,385 Speaker 4: Guess, So saying like you've got a beautiful voice. You 124 00:05:32,385 --> 00:05:34,545 Speaker 4: could be a therapist now, I guess you kind of are. 125 00:05:34,745 --> 00:05:38,465 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard it all. You know, there's been tears, affairs, 126 00:05:38,505 --> 00:05:41,665 Speaker 3: you know, like boyfriends coming in and out, and you know, 127 00:05:41,705 --> 00:05:45,785 Speaker 3: clients getting married, and yeah, it's definitely a fun time 128 00:05:45,865 --> 00:05:47,585 Speaker 3: when they come in for their appointments when you know 129 00:05:47,665 --> 00:05:49,985 Speaker 3: them well, So that's something that's fun. But yeah, some 130 00:05:50,065 --> 00:05:52,585 Speaker 3: of the really detailed characters, if it's a full character, 131 00:05:52,625 --> 00:05:55,065 Speaker 3: if it's more than one character on and out, it 132 00:05:55,105 --> 00:05:57,705 Speaker 3: can be upwards of three hours maybe more. I mean 133 00:05:57,745 --> 00:06:01,985 Speaker 3: this includes full cutical work, like sculptured nows that are 134 00:06:02,145 --> 00:06:04,425 Speaker 3: you know, in a sort of extreme shape. So it 135 00:06:04,465 --> 00:06:06,785 Speaker 3: can take a long time. But the people that want 136 00:06:06,905 --> 00:06:09,665 Speaker 3: that they come to me because like they don't think 137 00:06:09,745 --> 00:06:11,225 Speaker 3: that it's going to be a fort n op minute job. 138 00:06:11,465 --> 00:06:11,745 Speaker 3: They know. 139 00:06:12,185 --> 00:06:14,985 Speaker 4: But I've seen on like when you're doing your beautiful 140 00:06:15,025 --> 00:06:17,985 Speaker 4: videos that you'll do it on a nail. Couldn't you 141 00:06:18,065 --> 00:06:20,825 Speaker 4: just stick the nail can? Okay, so you can. There's 142 00:06:20,825 --> 00:06:23,385 Speaker 4: a couple of different ways you can. There's even stickers 143 00:06:23,385 --> 00:06:26,305 Speaker 4: as well. There's Japanese stickers that it's just a plane 144 00:06:26,305 --> 00:06:28,225 Speaker 4: sheet of sticker and you can actually cut them. I've 145 00:06:28,265 --> 00:06:30,705 Speaker 4: been doing that quite regularly because it's a really good 146 00:06:30,745 --> 00:06:33,825 Speaker 4: way to get something prepared prior to the client coming in, 147 00:06:33,945 --> 00:06:35,345 Speaker 4: and then it's just a matter of sticking on. 148 00:06:35,385 --> 00:06:38,305 Speaker 3: But it's still art. You've still painted it. It still 149 00:06:38,385 --> 00:06:41,305 Speaker 3: is really unique. So I've been doing that. It doesn't 150 00:06:41,305 --> 00:06:43,865 Speaker 3: really save me any time, but it saves the client's 151 00:06:44,065 --> 00:06:46,465 Speaker 3: sitting the time with me. Yeah, but majority of the 152 00:06:46,505 --> 00:06:48,825 Speaker 3: people that have come to me are like the whole shibang. 153 00:06:48,945 --> 00:06:51,185 Speaker 3: They want a whole lot and they're like I was, 154 00:06:51,585 --> 00:06:52,905 Speaker 3: or love it. They love it. 155 00:06:53,105 --> 00:06:54,785 Speaker 1: How much does something like that cost? 156 00:06:55,065 --> 00:06:58,105 Speaker 3: Depending? I try to charge by hour, So yeah, I was. 157 00:06:58,105 --> 00:07:01,385 Speaker 4: Thinking because obviously if I just said, like, do you 158 00:07:01,425 --> 00:07:02,505 Speaker 4: even do basic stuff? 159 00:07:02,545 --> 00:07:06,065 Speaker 1: Like I just said, I want just SNS, like that's 160 00:07:06,065 --> 00:07:06,505 Speaker 1: what I get. 161 00:07:06,665 --> 00:07:11,065 Speaker 4: SMS is very different to three hours have beautiful detail. 162 00:07:11,425 --> 00:07:13,265 Speaker 3: And with the cuticle work as well. I think that's 163 00:07:13,265 --> 00:07:15,745 Speaker 3: something that these days a lot in our techs are 164 00:07:15,745 --> 00:07:19,105 Speaker 3: working on more getting that really nice clean cuticle. 165 00:07:18,865 --> 00:07:20,825 Speaker 1: That beautiful cure. Yeah, how do you do it? Walk 166 00:07:20,905 --> 00:07:23,385 Speaker 1: us through that? Yeah, So I'm guessing you're not cutting 167 00:07:23,425 --> 00:07:24,745 Speaker 1: the way that my lady does. 168 00:07:25,425 --> 00:07:27,745 Speaker 3: You do cut, but you can also do it dry 169 00:07:27,785 --> 00:07:30,745 Speaker 3: with an ephile money in that way as well, So 170 00:07:30,905 --> 00:07:33,985 Speaker 3: it really depends what you're comfortable with. If you're experienced 171 00:07:34,025 --> 00:07:36,385 Speaker 3: and you want to cut, you can cut. The Russian 172 00:07:36,465 --> 00:07:39,825 Speaker 3: way is to cut with actual scissors, really really sharp scissors. 173 00:07:40,065 --> 00:07:42,865 Speaker 3: But when you've kind of pushed the which technically it's 174 00:07:42,905 --> 00:07:44,665 Speaker 3: not the cuticle, it's the epinichy and we call it. 175 00:07:44,665 --> 00:07:46,665 Speaker 3: But once you've pushed that bag and you've done it 176 00:07:46,665 --> 00:07:48,825 Speaker 3: with the efhil, you actually get this sort of flap 177 00:07:48,865 --> 00:07:52,225 Speaker 3: of skin that really sits above the nail, and so 178 00:07:52,385 --> 00:07:54,905 Speaker 3: when you go to cut it, there's not really any 179 00:07:54,985 --> 00:07:57,625 Speaker 3: risk of you actually cutting the attached skin. You're only 180 00:07:57,625 --> 00:07:59,905 Speaker 3: cutting this kind of white band that you've kind of 181 00:07:59,945 --> 00:08:02,105 Speaker 3: opened up that pocket, if that makes sense. Sounds a 182 00:08:02,145 --> 00:08:03,065 Speaker 3: little bit gross as well. 183 00:08:03,185 --> 00:08:06,145 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm just I'm actually because surprised that you're 184 00:08:06,145 --> 00:08:07,985 Speaker 4: saying that you can, because so many people for so 185 00:08:08,105 --> 00:08:10,785 Speaker 4: long we're saying that you don't have let anyone technically. 186 00:08:11,025 --> 00:08:15,385 Speaker 3: Yeah, so technically in Australia we aren't meant to cut 187 00:08:15,425 --> 00:08:18,505 Speaker 3: any living tissue, but we're allowed to cut hangnails or 188 00:08:18,545 --> 00:08:21,225 Speaker 3: any dead tissue or say, like we were talking before, 189 00:08:21,265 --> 00:08:23,425 Speaker 3: if you're in a picker of your skin and you've 190 00:08:23,425 --> 00:08:26,385 Speaker 3: got those little hangnails or those little jagged bits of skin. 191 00:08:26,745 --> 00:08:28,425 Speaker 3: We are meant to cut that and trim it and 192 00:08:28,465 --> 00:08:30,385 Speaker 3: neat in it just so as you can't do any 193 00:08:30,425 --> 00:08:32,945 Speaker 3: more damage to yourself. So that's sort of our job. 194 00:08:32,985 --> 00:08:34,345 Speaker 3: I guess if you come and you're like, I just 195 00:08:34,345 --> 00:08:36,505 Speaker 3: want to eat it up, we would kind of push 196 00:08:36,585 --> 00:08:39,945 Speaker 3: them back and then give them a nice little trim, 197 00:08:39,985 --> 00:08:41,865 Speaker 3: maybe a little bit of a buff with the ephile 198 00:08:41,905 --> 00:08:43,905 Speaker 3: as well, because that also really helps to smooth the 199 00:08:43,945 --> 00:08:46,665 Speaker 3: skin out. And then that's it, so you're not sort 200 00:08:46,705 --> 00:08:50,265 Speaker 3: of going ham like cutting like into that attached skin. 201 00:08:50,425 --> 00:08:53,345 Speaker 4: I just wouldn't think that someone would do that because 202 00:08:53,385 --> 00:08:56,265 Speaker 4: it would hurt, Like if someone was cutting live skin, 203 00:08:56,305 --> 00:08:58,505 Speaker 4: that would really. Yeah, it does, and you shouldn't be 204 00:08:58,505 --> 00:09:01,065 Speaker 4: able to feel like when someone's doing your nails, you don't. 205 00:09:00,785 --> 00:09:02,305 Speaker 3: Feel you shouldn't feel it. Really. 206 00:09:02,385 --> 00:09:05,025 Speaker 4: I had a fungal infection at the start of the year, yep. 207 00:09:05,105 --> 00:09:06,745 Speaker 4: And I didn't think it was a big deal. Like 208 00:09:06,825 --> 00:09:08,505 Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, I thought it was a 209 00:09:08,505 --> 00:09:12,385 Speaker 4: bruise for ages green yeah, in parts, And so I 210 00:09:12,425 --> 00:09:14,105 Speaker 4: went to the pharmacy and I know one of the 211 00:09:14,185 --> 00:09:16,665 Speaker 4: ladies that works there, and she was like, oh my god, 212 00:09:16,785 --> 00:09:19,185 Speaker 4: that's really bad, Like you could lose the nail and 213 00:09:19,545 --> 00:09:22,105 Speaker 4: you could end up having to go on a really 214 00:09:22,185 --> 00:09:23,945 Speaker 4: high any voluntary. 215 00:09:23,545 --> 00:09:26,305 Speaker 3: About it that bad potentially if it was what we 216 00:09:26,425 --> 00:09:30,665 Speaker 3: call in the mail industry are greeny. Usually it's Pseudonoma bacteria, 217 00:09:30,745 --> 00:09:33,105 Speaker 3: and that can get trapped, like if there was an 218 00:09:33,105 --> 00:09:35,745 Speaker 3: air pocket in your nails that were sitting. Technically, it's 219 00:09:35,785 --> 00:09:37,705 Speaker 3: not your fault, it was wherever you were going. 220 00:09:37,785 --> 00:09:39,625 Speaker 4: Well, that's what she said. And then she was like 221 00:09:39,945 --> 00:09:41,745 Speaker 4: when did you get your nails done last? 222 00:09:41,745 --> 00:09:42,505 Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know. 223 00:09:42,665 --> 00:09:44,665 Speaker 4: The other day she's like, I cannot believe that they 224 00:09:44,785 --> 00:09:47,905 Speaker 4: did them, Like they should not have put that polish 225 00:09:47,985 --> 00:09:50,225 Speaker 4: on that now because then they're giving it to someone else. 226 00:09:50,105 --> 00:09:52,265 Speaker 3: Right well, and also that if they put a dark 227 00:09:52,305 --> 00:09:55,345 Speaker 3: polish on top of it, they're making the perfect environment 228 00:09:55,425 --> 00:09:59,025 Speaker 3: for that pseudonomo bacteria to breed, and so the green 229 00:09:59,105 --> 00:10:01,825 Speaker 3: that you see is the waste from the bacteria. If 230 00:10:01,825 --> 00:10:03,665 Speaker 3: it is a Pseudonoma bacteria. 231 00:10:03,425 --> 00:10:05,865 Speaker 4: It's pretty god. Oh I wouldn't have like I had 232 00:10:05,865 --> 00:10:06,985 Speaker 4: to go bald. 233 00:10:06,945 --> 00:10:07,185 Speaker 2: Did you? 234 00:10:07,705 --> 00:10:11,505 Speaker 3: Because sometimes it is not best because if you do 235 00:10:12,025 --> 00:10:14,345 Speaker 3: take the nail off. If you take all your nails off, 236 00:10:14,345 --> 00:10:15,825 Speaker 3: you could potentially spread it to others. 237 00:10:15,825 --> 00:10:18,025 Speaker 1: Sorry, not bulled, just no sns. 238 00:10:18,305 --> 00:10:22,065 Speaker 4: Yeah, so no polish on it, o case, like, yeah, 239 00:10:22,185 --> 00:10:25,305 Speaker 4: just that special stuff that's so expensive that like a 240 00:10:25,545 --> 00:10:27,065 Speaker 4: fungal lysogel or whatever. 241 00:10:27,065 --> 00:10:31,745 Speaker 3: It's okay. Look, they're generally pretty easy. Like you know, 242 00:10:31,785 --> 00:10:34,145 Speaker 3: once you realize it and you're not keeping on covering 243 00:10:34,145 --> 00:10:36,865 Speaker 3: it with dark colors, it is going to grow out. 244 00:10:37,105 --> 00:10:39,265 Speaker 3: And sometimes when you do take that, if you catch 245 00:10:39,305 --> 00:10:42,345 Speaker 3: it early and you do kind of take the enhancement off, 246 00:10:42,625 --> 00:10:44,625 Speaker 3: it may just come away with like an once you 247 00:10:44,705 --> 00:10:47,425 Speaker 3: alcohol wipe it because it is just that waste byproduct. 248 00:10:47,705 --> 00:10:49,905 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's not the nicest thing to see 249 00:10:49,905 --> 00:10:52,305 Speaker 3: on your nails as well, but especially because. 250 00:10:52,145 --> 00:10:53,785 Speaker 4: I just thought it was a bruise and then to 251 00:10:53,785 --> 00:10:56,425 Speaker 4: find out it's a fungal intention I was because I 252 00:10:56,545 --> 00:10:58,625 Speaker 4: just mentioned passing. I was like, what is this yeahing? 253 00:10:58,705 --> 00:11:06,745 Speaker 4: And she was like that's not good. So you are 254 00:11:06,785 --> 00:11:09,545 Speaker 4: not just creating art. You teach the world how to 255 00:11:09,545 --> 00:11:13,065 Speaker 4: do it with get buffed pro. So what made you 256 00:11:13,065 --> 00:11:16,625 Speaker 4: want to share your secrets? Because not everyone does. Some 257 00:11:16,665 --> 00:11:18,625 Speaker 4: people like to date keep they're not girls girls. 258 00:11:18,745 --> 00:11:21,465 Speaker 3: Yes, Well, when I started, I felt like my sort 259 00:11:21,505 --> 00:11:24,785 Speaker 3: of initial ever, when I started doing now is I 260 00:11:24,865 --> 00:11:27,025 Speaker 3: was like, the goal is to like one day teach 261 00:11:27,065 --> 00:11:30,945 Speaker 3: people how to do nows before I was ever popular 262 00:11:30,985 --> 00:11:33,905 Speaker 3: on social media, so then it kind of slowly turned 263 00:11:33,945 --> 00:11:37,145 Speaker 3: into me teaching how I do nows and the way 264 00:11:37,185 --> 00:11:39,225 Speaker 3: I do art, so it was very different. It was 265 00:11:39,265 --> 00:11:42,025 Speaker 3: definitely like not how I expected I was going to 266 00:11:42,145 --> 00:11:45,745 Speaker 3: educate people. And when I started off in social media, 267 00:11:45,785 --> 00:11:48,705 Speaker 3: I thought I'll do YouTube videos, and then very quickly 268 00:11:48,745 --> 00:11:51,505 Speaker 3: when it was more Facebook and Instagram that took off, 269 00:11:51,785 --> 00:11:53,665 Speaker 3: I was like, why am I going to do YouTube videos? 270 00:11:53,745 --> 00:11:55,545 Speaker 3: I'm going to give everything away for free? Why would 271 00:11:55,585 --> 00:11:58,225 Speaker 3: I do that? Like I've worked so many years and 272 00:11:58,305 --> 00:12:01,225 Speaker 3: trained so much to give it all away on YouTube. 273 00:12:01,505 --> 00:12:03,465 Speaker 3: I do have a little bit of a following on YouTube, 274 00:12:03,465 --> 00:12:05,225 Speaker 3: and I do put a few little videos here and there, 275 00:12:05,225 --> 00:12:07,385 Speaker 3: but the actual character stuff that everyone wanted to see. 276 00:12:07,425 --> 00:12:09,665 Speaker 3: I was like, you'll have to come to a class 277 00:12:09,785 --> 00:12:13,305 Speaker 3: that kind of thing, and then very quickly that went crazy. 278 00:12:13,385 --> 00:12:16,585 Speaker 3: I was traveling all over the world teaching people, Like 279 00:12:16,625 --> 00:12:17,265 Speaker 3: I said, some. 280 00:12:17,745 --> 00:12:20,825 Speaker 4: Countries teach someone though it's insane you've either got it 281 00:12:20,905 --> 00:12:21,345 Speaker 4: or you don't. 282 00:12:21,385 --> 00:12:23,105 Speaker 1: I always think with it yes or no. 283 00:12:23,265 --> 00:12:25,785 Speaker 3: Like I think there's definitely a way you can teach 284 00:12:25,825 --> 00:12:29,145 Speaker 3: someone to draw, and I try to teach a specific 285 00:12:29,185 --> 00:12:31,105 Speaker 3: way where I kind of start off with a very 286 00:12:31,145 --> 00:12:33,025 Speaker 3: basic shape and we just do it with like a 287 00:12:33,065 --> 00:12:35,225 Speaker 3: clear gel polish, like a circle, say if it's a 288 00:12:35,305 --> 00:12:38,545 Speaker 3: character that has a rounded kind of face, and then 289 00:12:38,785 --> 00:12:40,145 Speaker 3: we kind of draw from that. 290 00:12:40,385 --> 00:12:42,945 Speaker 1: So you are using actual nail polish. 291 00:12:42,785 --> 00:12:45,025 Speaker 3: You can. That was sort of how it started. I 292 00:12:45,025 --> 00:12:48,505 Speaker 3: guess before gel polish came, you know, into the industry, 293 00:12:48,825 --> 00:12:50,705 Speaker 3: we didn't really have anything else, so it was just 294 00:12:50,905 --> 00:12:53,345 Speaker 3: regular now a vantash. But as you can probably imagine, 295 00:12:53,465 --> 00:12:57,185 Speaker 3: it bleed rise, it bleeds, so you don't have much 296 00:12:57,225 --> 00:12:59,105 Speaker 3: time to really work with you know, if you're doing 297 00:12:59,145 --> 00:13:01,385 Speaker 3: lines and things, or if you make a mistake. The 298 00:13:01,465 --> 00:13:03,905 Speaker 3: jail polish will only dry once it goes into the lamp, 299 00:13:04,025 --> 00:13:06,905 Speaker 3: so you can really perfect whatever you're doing, and then 300 00:13:06,985 --> 00:13:08,665 Speaker 3: once you're ready, you pop it in the lamp and 301 00:13:08,665 --> 00:13:09,505 Speaker 3: then it's locked in. 302 00:13:10,065 --> 00:13:12,545 Speaker 1: And it's not going to easily chip away or anything. 303 00:13:12,585 --> 00:13:15,505 Speaker 3: No, or bleed as well, or because some now varnishes 304 00:13:15,545 --> 00:13:17,665 Speaker 3: can be quite wishy, washy color as well. 305 00:13:17,785 --> 00:13:19,905 Speaker 1: How long do they usually last for or is it 306 00:13:20,065 --> 00:13:21,785 Speaker 1: they just grow off? 307 00:13:22,105 --> 00:13:25,465 Speaker 3: They'll grow off. But like the tips, which actually brought some, 308 00:13:25,665 --> 00:13:28,185 Speaker 3: I'll show you as well. But I do little press 309 00:13:28,185 --> 00:13:31,185 Speaker 3: on tips just to showcase. That's how I teach in class, 310 00:13:31,185 --> 00:13:33,105 Speaker 3: So we just do it on a you know, fake 311 00:13:33,305 --> 00:13:36,865 Speaker 3: now tip like a press on. And some of those 312 00:13:36,905 --> 00:13:39,545 Speaker 3: that I have that I take around whenever I go teaching, 313 00:13:39,745 --> 00:13:43,785 Speaker 3: I've done them maybe almost ten years ago, and that 314 00:13:43,905 --> 00:13:46,665 Speaker 3: gel it's still it's like, h it doesn't because it's 315 00:13:46,705 --> 00:13:48,705 Speaker 3: top coded and everything's sealed and everything. 316 00:13:49,145 --> 00:13:49,385 Speaker 1: Wow. 317 00:13:49,505 --> 00:13:52,945 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's kind of been a way that I 318 00:13:52,985 --> 00:13:55,305 Speaker 3: guess I've been able to showcase to people because I 319 00:13:55,345 --> 00:13:57,665 Speaker 3: always was doing the characters on my own nails, and 320 00:13:57,705 --> 00:13:59,145 Speaker 3: then once it was time for them to come off, 321 00:13:59,145 --> 00:14:01,105 Speaker 3: well they got filed off and that was the last time. 322 00:14:01,265 --> 00:14:01,425 Speaker 4: You know. 323 00:14:01,545 --> 00:14:04,305 Speaker 3: All that was left after that was the photos. Whereas 324 00:14:04,305 --> 00:14:08,025 Speaker 3: with these little now tips, I can keep them forever. 325 00:14:08,065 --> 00:14:09,905 Speaker 3: I could even if I wanted to stick them for 326 00:14:09,945 --> 00:14:12,105 Speaker 3: a party, take them off and put them back the 327 00:14:12,145 --> 00:14:16,225 Speaker 3: next day. Yeah, so the actual gel lasts four years. 328 00:14:16,385 --> 00:14:18,065 Speaker 1: Can we talk about your beautiful nails? 329 00:14:18,105 --> 00:14:20,745 Speaker 3: Yes, these ones I've got Marie on these ones, and 330 00:14:20,825 --> 00:14:24,065 Speaker 3: this was actually with a sticker, so I painted her 331 00:14:24,145 --> 00:14:26,225 Speaker 3: on one of those little Japanese clear stickers. 332 00:14:26,425 --> 00:14:31,505 Speaker 4: If anyone is listening, not watching, You've got really beautiful 333 00:14:31,505 --> 00:14:31,945 Speaker 4: watch shape. 334 00:14:31,985 --> 00:14:32,585 Speaker 1: Is that almond? 335 00:14:32,745 --> 00:14:35,105 Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say an armand a bit like a Russian army. 336 00:14:35,105 --> 00:14:38,945 Speaker 4: They're very long and like art. They've got art on them, 337 00:14:38,985 --> 00:14:41,385 Speaker 4: but not like it's two D two D. 338 00:14:41,625 --> 00:14:41,865 Speaker 3: Yeah. 339 00:14:41,905 --> 00:14:44,665 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're beautiful, like they look very elegant. 340 00:14:44,985 --> 00:14:47,425 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what always was what I tried to I 341 00:14:47,425 --> 00:14:49,345 Speaker 3: didn't want it to be kind of tacky. I do 342 00:14:49,465 --> 00:14:50,505 Speaker 3: love the tatti as well. 343 00:14:50,705 --> 00:14:53,505 Speaker 4: I've just realized, like whenever, Yes, they're all very different. Yeah, 344 00:14:53,585 --> 00:14:54,705 Speaker 4: is that your real length? 345 00:14:54,945 --> 00:14:57,385 Speaker 3: No, it can be at times, it has been in 346 00:14:57,425 --> 00:15:02,465 Speaker 3: the past, but no, just because normal natural nails are 347 00:15:02,465 --> 00:15:04,785 Speaker 3: going to start to arch and have that curve. If 348 00:15:05,105 --> 00:15:07,105 Speaker 3: you've ever grown yours a little bit long, you probably 349 00:15:07,105 --> 00:15:08,705 Speaker 3: see that as well. Most people have that kind of 350 00:15:08,785 --> 00:15:11,225 Speaker 3: natural curve and I get that a little bit as well. 351 00:15:11,225 --> 00:15:13,945 Speaker 3: But I like a really straight look from the side, 352 00:15:14,025 --> 00:15:17,145 Speaker 3: which is more about the structure. Not everybody loves that. 353 00:15:17,425 --> 00:15:19,265 Speaker 3: It's a bit more of I guess, like a competition 354 00:15:19,465 --> 00:15:22,505 Speaker 3: style shape, but you definitely can. For many years, I 355 00:15:22,505 --> 00:15:24,345 Speaker 3: would have my nails all underneath. 356 00:15:24,425 --> 00:15:26,145 Speaker 4: I just don't like it because they look a little bit, 357 00:15:26,265 --> 00:15:27,945 Speaker 4: can get dirty times, yeah, they can get to it. 358 00:15:28,025 --> 00:15:30,385 Speaker 1: Yeah, and actually that is my real nail under there. 359 00:15:30,625 --> 00:15:33,545 Speaker 4: But as I said in between nballs, so I don't 360 00:15:33,625 --> 00:15:38,185 Speaker 4: often have long nails myself because yeah, and what is it? 361 00:15:38,225 --> 00:15:38,425 Speaker 3: Is it? 362 00:15:38,505 --> 00:15:38,825 Speaker 1: Gel? 363 00:15:38,945 --> 00:15:41,585 Speaker 3: Is it? I have gel on these at the moment. 364 00:15:41,745 --> 00:15:44,025 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a crylic. I do change a little bit 365 00:15:44,025 --> 00:15:46,865 Speaker 3: between gel and acrylic, but yeah, most of the time 366 00:15:47,345 --> 00:15:50,425 Speaker 3: acrylic and jelly. You're ones for long nails like this 367 00:15:50,545 --> 00:15:52,665 Speaker 3: that are going to really give you that strength and structure. 368 00:15:52,945 --> 00:15:55,025 Speaker 1: I get them, even when I like, I get SNS, 369 00:15:55,065 --> 00:15:55,985 Speaker 1: which is a gel. 370 00:15:55,785 --> 00:15:58,825 Speaker 3: Right, SNS technically not my favorite. 371 00:15:58,465 --> 00:16:01,505 Speaker 4: Thing really, Oh my gosh, please tell me why because 372 00:16:01,865 --> 00:16:03,625 Speaker 4: I feel like me and a lot of people listening 373 00:16:03,665 --> 00:16:04,305 Speaker 4: get SNS. 374 00:16:04,665 --> 00:16:07,305 Speaker 3: Okay, So that's why I like it is okay? So 375 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:11,865 Speaker 3: essentially SNS is glue and crylick powder. Yes, right, So 376 00:16:12,225 --> 00:16:14,385 Speaker 3: for one, there is a risk obviously of getting the 377 00:16:14,425 --> 00:16:17,225 Speaker 3: pseudonoma bacteria like what you said that you'd had, but 378 00:16:17,465 --> 00:16:21,225 Speaker 3: you really they're brushing on glue and then popping powder 379 00:16:21,265 --> 00:16:23,985 Speaker 3: on top them brushing on more resin and then more 380 00:16:23,985 --> 00:16:26,665 Speaker 3: powder on top. There's no way to actually build a 381 00:16:26,705 --> 00:16:29,825 Speaker 3: good structure in the nail and make it kind of strong. 382 00:16:30,185 --> 00:16:33,465 Speaker 3: You can really only build like what you're working with. 383 00:16:33,505 --> 00:16:36,105 Speaker 3: So whatever your nail shape is, whatever you're kind of 384 00:16:36,145 --> 00:16:38,225 Speaker 3: if you've got quite a wide now or a narrow now, 385 00:16:38,345 --> 00:16:40,185 Speaker 3: that's how it's going to look. With SNS. You're not 386 00:16:40,185 --> 00:16:41,985 Speaker 3: going to be able to build any structure or make 387 00:16:42,025 --> 00:16:46,425 Speaker 3: any kind of improvements to the shape SNS. Yeah, it's 388 00:16:46,705 --> 00:16:49,425 Speaker 3: it's generally you're not able to really build a great 389 00:16:49,465 --> 00:16:51,265 Speaker 3: structure in there. So there's no way that you could 390 00:16:51,305 --> 00:16:53,505 Speaker 3: do SNS at the length that I have my nails 391 00:16:53,665 --> 00:16:55,385 Speaker 3: because they would just break it. It would be a 392 00:16:55,425 --> 00:16:57,945 Speaker 3: painful break as well, because there's no structure in the middle. 393 00:16:58,105 --> 00:17:00,545 Speaker 4: Well, sometimes some people say, oh, you need to have 394 00:17:00,625 --> 00:17:03,345 Speaker 4: brakes and you shouldn't have fake nails on all the time. 395 00:17:03,665 --> 00:17:05,265 Speaker 4: And then because we were talking about it earlier and 396 00:17:05,305 --> 00:17:08,825 Speaker 4: I was like, I reckon, I've had some form of 397 00:17:09,105 --> 00:17:12,025 Speaker 4: a krillic or I don't really like shilak. 398 00:17:12,145 --> 00:17:12,985 Speaker 1: It doesn't work for me. 399 00:17:13,025 --> 00:17:16,265 Speaker 4: At pis off pretty okay quickly, like within two days 400 00:17:16,265 --> 00:17:16,625 Speaker 4: it peels. 401 00:17:16,745 --> 00:17:18,465 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm a picker. Yeah, so that. 402 00:17:18,625 --> 00:17:21,345 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I've had some form of something on my 403 00:17:21,425 --> 00:17:23,665 Speaker 4: nails ninety percent of the time for the best part 404 00:17:23,665 --> 00:17:26,145 Speaker 4: of years a decade, if not longer. 405 00:17:26,705 --> 00:17:27,665 Speaker 1: Is that really bad? 406 00:17:27,825 --> 00:17:30,545 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that is one of the like, definitely a 407 00:17:30,665 --> 00:17:32,625 Speaker 3: now tech gripe is when people say I'm going to 408 00:17:32,665 --> 00:17:35,225 Speaker 3: take my nails off to let them breathe. Well, nails 409 00:17:35,225 --> 00:17:38,465 Speaker 3: don't breathe. They're like hair. It's it's dead keraten. Yes, 410 00:17:38,465 --> 00:17:40,225 Speaker 3: it's attached to you now, but so you know, if 411 00:17:40,225 --> 00:17:43,625 Speaker 3: you accidentally chop your nail or something, it hurts obviously 412 00:17:43,625 --> 00:17:44,905 Speaker 3: because it's attached to that now. 413 00:17:44,865 --> 00:17:47,025 Speaker 1: But only down there. Really, that's it. 414 00:17:47,185 --> 00:17:51,145 Speaker 3: So the actual nowl plate surface, that's just the dead keratin. 415 00:17:51,625 --> 00:17:55,065 Speaker 3: So there's no the now doesn't need any oxygen, it 416 00:17:55,105 --> 00:17:58,265 Speaker 3: doesn't have lungs, it's not breathing. It definitely doesn't need 417 00:17:58,305 --> 00:18:01,145 Speaker 3: any of that. But sometimes people do say, oh, they 418 00:18:01,145 --> 00:18:03,145 Speaker 3: need a break or they're a bit damaged. I want 419 00:18:03,145 --> 00:18:04,745 Speaker 3: to give them a break, and now is it going 420 00:18:04,785 --> 00:18:06,425 Speaker 3: to grow? So it's fine if you want to give 421 00:18:06,465 --> 00:18:09,345 Speaker 3: them a break, that's fine. But if it was a 422 00:18:09,385 --> 00:18:11,545 Speaker 3: client coming to me saying, oh, my nails feel a 423 00:18:11,545 --> 00:18:13,905 Speaker 3: bit damaged or I've gone somewhere else in they're damaged, 424 00:18:14,105 --> 00:18:16,945 Speaker 3: I would still probably suggest like a kind of short 425 00:18:16,985 --> 00:18:19,585 Speaker 3: maybe a structured maney with gel or something, just until 426 00:18:19,585 --> 00:18:21,225 Speaker 3: that damage actually grows out. 427 00:18:21,185 --> 00:18:25,585 Speaker 4: Because otherwise, whenever I break, they're so thin and awful 428 00:18:26,225 --> 00:18:28,705 Speaker 4: that I end up just damaging. The more I recognize 429 00:18:28,705 --> 00:18:30,545 Speaker 4: as I start ripping them straight away, and. 430 00:18:30,505 --> 00:18:32,625 Speaker 3: They'll be really short and then you might be able 431 00:18:32,625 --> 00:18:34,825 Speaker 3: to pick out them. So that would generally be my 432 00:18:35,185 --> 00:18:38,225 Speaker 3: kind of suggestions. Sometimes people if they have crazy long 433 00:18:38,305 --> 00:18:40,705 Speaker 3: nails like me, but they're really rough on them and 434 00:18:40,745 --> 00:18:43,705 Speaker 3: then they do some damage and they're like, I want 435 00:18:43,745 --> 00:18:46,065 Speaker 3: to give them a break, I'm usually like, let's just 436 00:18:46,105 --> 00:18:48,745 Speaker 3: go a little bit shorter, do a gel like, you know, 437 00:18:48,865 --> 00:18:51,185 Speaker 3: something like nice and neat that you're not going to 438 00:18:51,225 --> 00:18:54,265 Speaker 3: break easily, and just let that damage grow out. 439 00:18:54,545 --> 00:18:57,705 Speaker 4: Let's talk about trends. So spring is around the corner. 440 00:18:58,185 --> 00:19:00,185 Speaker 4: What trendsit you forecasting? 441 00:19:00,385 --> 00:19:03,985 Speaker 3: Okay, that we're all doing so many, so many I 442 00:19:03,985 --> 00:19:08,945 Speaker 3: think Fruits is definitely, yeah, definitely on trend, and three 443 00:19:09,025 --> 00:19:12,345 Speaker 3: D Roos as well, three D Little Disney characters are 444 00:19:12,345 --> 00:19:15,065 Speaker 3: really going off at the moment. I definitely think a 445 00:19:15,105 --> 00:19:18,705 Speaker 3: little underground kind of trend that's coming is like realistic 446 00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:22,825 Speaker 3: skin looking with tattoo like painted on them, kind of cute, 447 00:19:22,905 --> 00:19:26,505 Speaker 3: like kind of weird, like quite realistic skin. Yeah, there's 448 00:19:26,505 --> 00:19:29,385 Speaker 3: a there's a designer that's been doing some boots like 449 00:19:29,425 --> 00:19:32,265 Speaker 3: that and some fashion that looks like skin with tattoos 450 00:19:32,305 --> 00:19:34,505 Speaker 3: and piercings and things like that on it. So a 451 00:19:34,545 --> 00:19:37,385 Speaker 3: couple girls I've seen have been doing that on the 452 00:19:37,505 --> 00:19:41,705 Speaker 3: nails and they've just gone wild like on socials. And yeah, 453 00:19:41,705 --> 00:19:45,105 Speaker 3: definitely the piercings too, making the nails look like they've 454 00:19:45,145 --> 00:19:47,385 Speaker 3: been pierced with like you know, belly button rings and 455 00:19:47,425 --> 00:19:48,065 Speaker 3: stuff like that. 456 00:19:48,505 --> 00:19:51,305 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I don't often see people in the wild 457 00:19:51,385 --> 00:19:54,585 Speaker 4: with something true. I might see it on Pinterest or 458 00:19:54,625 --> 00:19:58,625 Speaker 4: on social media, but I don't walk around seeing people 459 00:19:58,665 --> 00:19:59,225 Speaker 4: in the wild. 460 00:19:59,425 --> 00:20:00,025 Speaker 1: Yes, sort of. 461 00:20:00,385 --> 00:20:02,825 Speaker 4: The only person was flex Mummy, who I used to 462 00:20:02,825 --> 00:20:05,425 Speaker 4: do a podcast with. She always had some epic. 463 00:20:05,185 --> 00:20:09,185 Speaker 3: Now oh yes, yes, and yeah, the only person, yeah, 464 00:20:09,185 --> 00:20:11,385 Speaker 3: that I know have seen in the wild. Well that's 465 00:20:11,385 --> 00:20:14,465 Speaker 3: where I think I feel like. I guess there's those 466 00:20:14,585 --> 00:20:17,505 Speaker 3: niche noil artists like myself that do those kind of 467 00:20:17,505 --> 00:20:20,265 Speaker 3: crazy people that really want to put their personality on 468 00:20:20,265 --> 00:20:22,825 Speaker 3: their nails and really want to have something to talk about. 469 00:20:22,945 --> 00:20:26,545 Speaker 3: Remember you remember it? Yeah, And it's a great advertisement 470 00:20:26,585 --> 00:20:30,465 Speaker 3: for me. I never really advertised had to advertise much 471 00:20:30,705 --> 00:20:32,585 Speaker 3: when I first started, because my clients were just going 472 00:20:32,585 --> 00:20:34,705 Speaker 3: out there in the wild, as you say, and just 473 00:20:34,865 --> 00:20:37,705 Speaker 3: everyone would just be like, oh my god, yeah, where 474 00:20:37,705 --> 00:20:39,905 Speaker 3: can I get them done? Like that? But I feel 475 00:20:39,945 --> 00:20:42,865 Speaker 3: like at the shops, maybe a lot of like retail 476 00:20:43,025 --> 00:20:46,305 Speaker 3: girls I think can let their personality out a bit more. So. 477 00:20:46,345 --> 00:20:48,225 Speaker 3: I often see them in like you know, cotton On 478 00:20:48,345 --> 00:20:50,025 Speaker 3: or something. A girl that works there might have like 479 00:20:50,105 --> 00:20:53,065 Speaker 3: some crazy nails or on a retail Well I mean 480 00:20:53,065 --> 00:20:56,025 Speaker 3: that too, but if nails are your Thesian. 481 00:20:55,705 --> 00:20:57,425 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not going to Mecca. They're going to get 482 00:20:57,465 --> 00:21:00,465 Speaker 4: their nails exactly. What's the most expensive nails you've ever. 483 00:21:00,345 --> 00:21:04,345 Speaker 3: Heard of or a celebrity? Now, Tech did diamonds. I'm 484 00:21:04,345 --> 00:21:07,145 Speaker 3: pretty sure it was on maybe Rhianna and an Asap 485 00:21:07,225 --> 00:21:10,465 Speaker 3: Rocky or something one of their met gala's. Yeah, so 486 00:21:10,505 --> 00:21:13,585 Speaker 3: I think that they were like ten thousand dollars. It 487 00:21:13,625 --> 00:21:18,185 Speaker 3: was I think us as well. They were very actual diamonds. Yeah, 488 00:21:18,625 --> 00:21:22,105 Speaker 3: supposed it lot more if they were actual diamonds. Yeah, true, Yeah. 489 00:21:22,025 --> 00:21:23,625 Speaker 4: Why do you even saurce that You're like, I just 490 00:21:23,665 --> 00:21:26,785 Speaker 4: need lots of diamonds, diamonds for my client's nails. 491 00:21:26,865 --> 00:21:27,105 Speaker 3: Yeah. 492 00:21:27,105 --> 00:21:28,665 Speaker 1: What about colors, like if you just want to. 493 00:21:28,785 --> 00:21:31,385 Speaker 3: Definitely bright, always bright, I think in the in the 494 00:21:31,425 --> 00:21:34,385 Speaker 3: summer and spring. I always love the corals. I feel 495 00:21:34,385 --> 00:21:36,225 Speaker 3: like they always kind of come out in some especially 496 00:21:36,265 --> 00:21:38,745 Speaker 3: on people's toes and then people start to match, you know, 497 00:21:38,905 --> 00:21:43,505 Speaker 3: nails to their toes. Definitely corals, I think, and maybe 498 00:21:43,585 --> 00:21:48,865 Speaker 3: some kind of ready pink cherry type color cherry, very cute. 499 00:21:48,985 --> 00:21:52,225 Speaker 4: What about shape, I think almond is still going strong 500 00:21:52,385 --> 00:21:57,825 Speaker 4: the same. You can't imagine like a square different? Yeah, 501 00:21:57,945 --> 00:21:59,545 Speaker 4: I think I know that they will come back at 502 00:21:59,545 --> 00:22:02,105 Speaker 4: some point they be like I cannot imagine doing an armor. 503 00:22:02,105 --> 00:22:04,705 Speaker 3: No, and a lot of people are doing, probably more 504 00:22:04,745 --> 00:22:07,345 Speaker 3: over in Europe, which tends to come here anyway, A 505 00:22:07,625 --> 00:22:11,785 Speaker 3: very short, blunt like Russian type square where all the 506 00:22:11,825 --> 00:22:14,625 Speaker 3: cuticle work's done they now is very very neat, the 507 00:22:14,705 --> 00:22:19,105 Speaker 3: structures very structured and extremely square, but very short as well, 508 00:22:19,785 --> 00:22:21,265 Speaker 3: just over the noil tip I. 509 00:22:21,225 --> 00:22:24,065 Speaker 4: Don't like, just very square, sound very square, like it 510 00:22:24,145 --> 00:22:27,345 Speaker 4: just would probably make your fingers a bit maybe. 511 00:22:27,025 --> 00:22:28,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's something you don't like? 512 00:22:28,465 --> 00:22:29,985 Speaker 3: Have you seen the duck tips I have? 513 00:22:30,065 --> 00:22:31,145 Speaker 1: But I thought that was a joke. 514 00:22:31,625 --> 00:22:33,465 Speaker 3: No, it's some people they like it. 515 00:22:33,625 --> 00:22:34,985 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen everyone. 516 00:22:35,665 --> 00:22:39,465 Speaker 4: I don't think I would like a tattoo. 517 00:22:40,145 --> 00:22:40,545 Speaker 3: Everyone. 518 00:22:40,545 --> 00:22:43,585 Speaker 4: It's got like such different things. Yeah, I agree, though 519 00:22:43,585 --> 00:22:45,025 Speaker 4: I thought that was a joke when I saw a 520 00:22:45,025 --> 00:22:51,545 Speaker 4: photo of it. Yeah, what are your top tips of 521 00:22:51,665 --> 00:22:52,825 Speaker 4: keeping your nails healthy? 522 00:22:53,025 --> 00:22:56,945 Speaker 3: Definitely the cuticle oil and moisturizing if you can every day, 523 00:22:56,985 --> 00:22:59,665 Speaker 3: even if you keep it with like your nighttime skin routine, 524 00:22:59,665 --> 00:23:01,825 Speaker 3: so it's right before you go to bed, that cuticle 525 00:23:01,825 --> 00:23:04,225 Speaker 3: oil and the moisturizer stays on your hands you're not 526 00:23:04,345 --> 00:23:07,025 Speaker 3: washing your hands and washing it off straight away. Definitely, 527 00:23:07,065 --> 00:23:10,305 Speaker 3: and massaging it into the cuticle because plunking it exactly 528 00:23:10,585 --> 00:23:12,985 Speaker 3: and that kind of helps to promote the nail to grow, 529 00:23:13,025 --> 00:23:15,465 Speaker 3: as well as having a little scrubbing brush maybe where 530 00:23:15,465 --> 00:23:18,385 Speaker 3: you wash your hands, like at your nighttime routine. Again, 531 00:23:18,785 --> 00:23:20,905 Speaker 3: keeping the underneath really clean, it's really good for that. 532 00:23:21,025 --> 00:23:22,745 Speaker 3: So when you get the soap in there, just grab 533 00:23:22,785 --> 00:23:25,785 Speaker 3: that little noil scrubbing brush and go like underneath as. 534 00:23:25,705 --> 00:23:28,585 Speaker 4: Well, probably just use an old toothbrush even Yeah, yeah, 535 00:23:28,665 --> 00:23:31,265 Speaker 4: that would. And also because I will always make sure, 536 00:23:31,305 --> 00:23:33,145 Speaker 4: like with excess serums and products at the night, that 537 00:23:33,145 --> 00:23:35,785 Speaker 4: I put it on your hands, yeap my hands down. 538 00:23:35,625 --> 00:23:37,465 Speaker 1: The neck, then on the back of your hands. 539 00:23:37,985 --> 00:23:40,585 Speaker 4: How do you think that someone could ease off getting 540 00:23:40,665 --> 00:23:44,625 Speaker 4: regular nail extensions or if they're really addicted to the 541 00:23:44,665 --> 00:23:46,985 Speaker 4: looker but they want to save their nails or you 542 00:23:47,025 --> 00:23:50,145 Speaker 4: want to let their nails breathe or save the money. Yeah, now, 543 00:23:50,505 --> 00:23:51,865 Speaker 4: like do you have any tips for that or you're 544 00:23:52,025 --> 00:23:53,745 Speaker 4: just like no, just keep going. 545 00:23:54,385 --> 00:23:56,185 Speaker 3: I mean yes, so you would love them to keep 546 00:23:56,225 --> 00:23:59,385 Speaker 3: going when you but like a more simple like structured 547 00:23:59,425 --> 00:24:02,105 Speaker 3: gel money or something like that is not going to 548 00:24:02,105 --> 00:24:03,905 Speaker 3: be as expensive. It's going to be a lot quicker 549 00:24:03,945 --> 00:24:05,505 Speaker 3: to get it done. You know, if they were trying 550 00:24:05,545 --> 00:24:08,585 Speaker 3: to save money from having like quite elaborate nails, I'd 551 00:24:08,625 --> 00:24:12,465 Speaker 3: say take the length down, do a short neat, you know, 552 00:24:12,585 --> 00:24:15,105 Speaker 3: just painted like gel set. And if they do want 553 00:24:15,105 --> 00:24:17,145 Speaker 3: to eventually just go back to their natural nails, so 554 00:24:17,225 --> 00:24:19,985 Speaker 3: they want to grow their own natural nails, just take 555 00:24:20,025 --> 00:24:22,265 Speaker 3: them off, maybe slowly, let them grow out a little bit, 556 00:24:22,305 --> 00:24:24,225 Speaker 3: just thin them out, let them grow out a bit. 557 00:24:24,345 --> 00:24:27,305 Speaker 3: You could remove them completely you're probably going to look 558 00:24:27,345 --> 00:24:29,945 Speaker 3: at having short nails for a little while until that 559 00:24:30,185 --> 00:24:31,505 Speaker 3: area kind of grows out. 560 00:24:31,385 --> 00:24:32,385 Speaker 1: And gets healthy. 561 00:24:32,545 --> 00:24:32,745 Speaker 3: Yeah. 562 00:24:32,785 --> 00:24:35,225 Speaker 4: So I have to go every two weeks, yep, because 563 00:24:35,745 --> 00:24:38,305 Speaker 4: my nails go quite quickly. I guess I get bold 564 00:24:38,345 --> 00:24:40,585 Speaker 4: colors like I don't have to, but I like ill. Yeah, 565 00:24:40,865 --> 00:24:43,265 Speaker 4: what is the best practice for someone that really doesn't 566 00:24:43,265 --> 00:24:44,985 Speaker 4: want to go that often? What do you what would 567 00:24:44,985 --> 00:24:47,825 Speaker 4: you suggest to someone that wants to get the most 568 00:24:47,905 --> 00:24:50,625 Speaker 4: out of there, so they have to go as little 569 00:24:50,625 --> 00:24:52,505 Speaker 4: as possible because it's just an annoying thing to have 570 00:24:52,545 --> 00:24:55,385 Speaker 4: to do. Sit there for me, Yes, not everyone feels 571 00:24:55,425 --> 00:24:56,145 Speaker 4: that way, but I do. 572 00:24:56,465 --> 00:25:00,265 Speaker 3: So if you are going somewhere that does offer cutical 573 00:25:00,305 --> 00:25:03,225 Speaker 3: work and does like say, Russian cuticles, maybe not technically 574 00:25:03,265 --> 00:25:04,865 Speaker 3: Russian cuticles, it could be just dry. 575 00:25:04,745 --> 00:25:07,225 Speaker 1: Cutical work, and can you explain what that is? 576 00:25:07,345 --> 00:25:09,225 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's the pushing down of that kind of 577 00:25:09,265 --> 00:25:12,345 Speaker 3: epony hum skin there and also trimming off the excess 578 00:25:12,665 --> 00:25:15,305 Speaker 3: obviously the dead skin. You don't want to trim any 579 00:25:15,345 --> 00:25:17,385 Speaker 3: of the kind of live stuff, just that white band 580 00:25:17,385 --> 00:25:17,745 Speaker 3: of skin. 581 00:25:17,945 --> 00:25:19,665 Speaker 1: If it bleeds, no, no, yes. 582 00:25:19,585 --> 00:25:22,625 Speaker 3: Definitely do not want it to bleed. And like CAUs 583 00:25:22,665 --> 00:25:24,425 Speaker 3: I find with a lot of my clients and they're 584 00:25:24,465 --> 00:25:27,745 Speaker 3: having nails like my kind of length that they go. 585 00:25:27,985 --> 00:25:29,865 Speaker 3: Some of them are really naughty and go like six 586 00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:30,945 Speaker 3: seven weeks. 587 00:25:30,865 --> 00:25:32,745 Speaker 1: But surely it's half off at that point. 588 00:25:32,825 --> 00:25:34,905 Speaker 3: I mean, well, this is the thing. Because I do 589 00:25:34,985 --> 00:25:38,345 Speaker 3: a lot of cutical work. They're what I guess some 590 00:25:39,025 --> 00:25:42,425 Speaker 3: normal like shopping center type salons might be just doing 591 00:25:42,465 --> 00:25:44,705 Speaker 3: a quick kind of push of the cuticle, not going 592 00:25:44,745 --> 00:25:47,585 Speaker 3: as in depth as me. So what it looks like 593 00:25:47,785 --> 00:25:51,985 Speaker 3: for that might be what mine looks like at three 594 00:25:52,025 --> 00:25:54,905 Speaker 3: weeks and theirs is only a week. Yeah, okay, yeah, 595 00:25:54,945 --> 00:25:58,385 Speaker 3: So really focusing on that kind of skin preparation. And 596 00:25:58,425 --> 00:26:02,545 Speaker 3: then also because I really kind of tuck whatever medium 597 00:26:02,585 --> 00:26:05,705 Speaker 3: amusing safe, it's gel right in kind of under that 598 00:26:06,265 --> 00:26:08,705 Speaker 3: like opening that I've made under their skinning. 599 00:26:08,825 --> 00:26:11,025 Speaker 4: Like I think that I go to like a shopping 600 00:26:11,025 --> 00:26:14,265 Speaker 4: center one yeah, and yeah, they definitely like that. 601 00:26:14,305 --> 00:26:16,985 Speaker 1: Do it's spend time? Yes, they do it too. 602 00:26:17,785 --> 00:26:19,865 Speaker 3: And that's their job, you know a lot of the time, 603 00:26:20,065 --> 00:26:20,825 Speaker 3: that's their job. 604 00:26:20,945 --> 00:26:23,665 Speaker 1: It's forty dollars yep. I just go in. It's forty 605 00:26:23,665 --> 00:26:25,305 Speaker 1: five minutes exactly, and. 606 00:26:25,385 --> 00:26:27,465 Speaker 3: You want to be in and out exactly. You don't 607 00:26:27,465 --> 00:26:30,025 Speaker 3: want them sitting there spending thirty minutes just on your 608 00:26:30,025 --> 00:26:31,665 Speaker 3: cuticles alone, whereas. 609 00:26:31,425 --> 00:26:33,865 Speaker 1: It's what I every now and then I wouldn't mind it. 610 00:26:33,945 --> 00:26:35,905 Speaker 3: Yeah, but see, this is the other thing. I guess 611 00:26:35,985 --> 00:26:37,745 Speaker 3: this is the trade off, is that if you did 612 00:26:37,785 --> 00:26:41,345 Speaker 3: go to somebody that was doing really thorough cuticle prep, 613 00:26:41,705 --> 00:26:44,345 Speaker 3: you may sit in that chair for an hour and 614 00:26:44,385 --> 00:26:46,945 Speaker 3: a half to possibly two hours, but you might only 615 00:26:46,985 --> 00:26:47,785 Speaker 3: have to come every. 616 00:26:47,585 --> 00:26:48,505 Speaker 1: Four weeks exactly. 617 00:26:48,585 --> 00:26:50,665 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so's it's a bit of a trade choosing 618 00:26:50,745 --> 00:26:53,265 Speaker 3: one and everybody's got there because I think a lot 619 00:26:53,265 --> 00:26:57,385 Speaker 3: of now techs that I've taught have said, like, you know, 620 00:26:57,465 --> 00:27:00,225 Speaker 3: the shopping center, someone's like, it's my competition and it's 621 00:27:00,225 --> 00:27:01,825 Speaker 3: really tough for me to beat them because they can 622 00:27:01,865 --> 00:27:03,425 Speaker 3: do you know, I set for forty five dollars in 623 00:27:03,425 --> 00:27:05,385 Speaker 3: forty minutes, and I'm like, but they're not your. 624 00:27:05,225 --> 00:27:06,385 Speaker 1: Competition in competition. 625 00:27:06,505 --> 00:27:09,705 Speaker 3: It's like, that's their thing. Let them have that. I 626 00:27:09,705 --> 00:27:12,505 Speaker 3: don't really want that kind of Yeah. 627 00:27:11,785 --> 00:27:13,785 Speaker 4: You don't want someone like you want the people to 628 00:27:13,905 --> 00:27:16,585 Speaker 4: appreciate it as well. But also that's like saying that 629 00:27:16,745 --> 00:27:20,225 Speaker 4: a special effects makeup artist is in competition with a 630 00:27:20,225 --> 00:27:22,785 Speaker 4: bridle makeup. Yes, Like they're absolutely not really different different 631 00:27:22,825 --> 00:27:24,065 Speaker 4: things and servicing different needs. 632 00:27:24,185 --> 00:27:26,785 Speaker 3: Yes. I think that's something that people don't realize in 633 00:27:26,825 --> 00:27:29,745 Speaker 3: the mail industry, is that we're all different. We're all 634 00:27:29,785 --> 00:27:32,025 Speaker 3: a little bit niche. If someone wants a quick one 635 00:27:32,065 --> 00:27:35,105 Speaker 3: hour set, I'm like, I'm not the one for you. Yeah, 636 00:27:35,145 --> 00:27:35,265 Speaker 3: I know. 637 00:27:35,545 --> 00:27:36,225 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. 638 00:27:36,465 --> 00:27:39,625 Speaker 3: Yeah, boring, Yeah, I want to do boring. I want 639 00:27:39,625 --> 00:27:42,945 Speaker 3: to do little like nail up. Master of your part. 640 00:27:43,105 --> 00:27:44,905 Speaker 1: You want to do someone's bloody nails? 641 00:27:44,945 --> 00:27:46,105 Speaker 3: It's just me? 642 00:27:46,505 --> 00:27:47,305 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. 643 00:27:47,345 --> 00:27:50,825 Speaker 4: Our last question is always about hit or miss. So 644 00:27:50,985 --> 00:27:54,185 Speaker 4: what is one now technical product that you think everyone 645 00:27:54,185 --> 00:27:55,145 Speaker 4: should try? 646 00:27:55,105 --> 00:27:55,185 Speaker 2: Ye? 647 00:27:55,425 --> 00:27:58,025 Speaker 4: And what is something that you see all over socials 648 00:27:58,705 --> 00:28:00,465 Speaker 4: that you just go, oh, for goodness sake? 649 00:28:00,825 --> 00:28:03,705 Speaker 3: Definitely, the oil is something everyone should try. Even if 650 00:28:03,745 --> 00:28:06,105 Speaker 3: you have your natural nails and you love your natural nails, 651 00:28:06,345 --> 00:28:09,785 Speaker 3: putting oil on them, pushing your skin back just a 652 00:28:09,825 --> 00:28:12,625 Speaker 3: bit with a cuticle stick, don't be too rough. You 653 00:28:12,705 --> 00:28:15,185 Speaker 3: use just your nails to like you could, yeah you could, 654 00:28:15,425 --> 00:28:17,505 Speaker 3: and massage you get in and spending like a good 655 00:28:17,545 --> 00:28:20,105 Speaker 3: three minutes doing that. I think is such a good 656 00:28:20,265 --> 00:28:23,025 Speaker 3: thing for anybody, no matter even men, and I do 657 00:28:23,305 --> 00:28:25,625 Speaker 3: my I've got two boys and sometimes like they get 658 00:28:25,625 --> 00:28:28,025 Speaker 3: a little bit dryer cuticles and I'll push them down. 659 00:28:28,105 --> 00:28:30,225 Speaker 3: I give them a little kind of dry manicure and 660 00:28:30,265 --> 00:28:32,585 Speaker 3: put some oil on, and they're like, they sit them, 661 00:28:32,625 --> 00:28:35,265 Speaker 3: they look they actually love it. It's really cute. 662 00:28:35,265 --> 00:28:36,905 Speaker 1: If one of them became a nail bity, you would 663 00:28:36,905 --> 00:28:37,785 Speaker 1: have been like, well. 664 00:28:37,625 --> 00:28:39,905 Speaker 3: One of them's a picker, not so much a nowl bitter, 665 00:28:39,945 --> 00:28:42,585 Speaker 3: but it is a skin picker. But I was lucky. 666 00:28:42,625 --> 00:28:44,745 Speaker 3: I guess that I had boys because I have a 667 00:28:44,745 --> 00:28:46,745 Speaker 3: lot of mum clients that have come to me and 668 00:28:46,745 --> 00:28:49,625 Speaker 3: they've got daughters, and their daughters beg them can I 669 00:28:49,625 --> 00:28:51,905 Speaker 3: come to your appointment? You know, and they sit there 670 00:28:51,945 --> 00:28:53,625 Speaker 3: and they're like could I have this? Can I have that? 671 00:28:53,665 --> 00:28:55,705 Speaker 3: And I'm like, imagine I had girls, I would probably 672 00:28:55,905 --> 00:28:58,385 Speaker 3: probably never let me out of the nail studio or. 673 00:28:58,865 --> 00:29:00,825 Speaker 1: They would never want anything to do with nails. And 674 00:29:00,865 --> 00:29:02,185 Speaker 1: you would be like, this is. 675 00:29:02,265 --> 00:29:04,865 Speaker 3: Right, ashamed, Yeah, exactly where did you come from? 676 00:29:04,945 --> 00:29:05,145 Speaker 4: Yeah? 677 00:29:05,185 --> 00:29:05,585 Speaker 3: Exactly? 678 00:29:05,665 --> 00:29:07,505 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's your hair to people? 679 00:29:07,505 --> 00:29:12,505 Speaker 3: Oil miss miss is probably as I said, the SNS 680 00:29:12,545 --> 00:29:15,105 Speaker 3: and maybe the gel X. So the gel X is 681 00:29:15,145 --> 00:29:18,145 Speaker 3: a full gel tip. While I do think that they're 682 00:29:18,185 --> 00:29:21,545 Speaker 3: really good for occasions, say formals and things like that. 683 00:29:21,625 --> 00:29:25,225 Speaker 3: I don't think that they're a nail that should be regularly. Like, 684 00:29:25,385 --> 00:29:27,465 Speaker 3: you know, if you're having your nails done all the 685 00:29:27,505 --> 00:29:30,305 Speaker 3: time and you're getting full gel tips put on every 686 00:29:30,345 --> 00:29:33,985 Speaker 3: time just because they need that, you will have seen them, 687 00:29:33,985 --> 00:29:37,025 Speaker 3: but you maybe wouldn't have even known. They're basically a full, 688 00:29:37,145 --> 00:29:39,905 Speaker 3: clear kind of plastic tip and it gets stuck on 689 00:29:40,025 --> 00:29:40,625 Speaker 3: with the. 690 00:29:40,705 --> 00:29:42,345 Speaker 1: First time you get acrylics. 691 00:29:42,705 --> 00:29:45,145 Speaker 3: Yes, except it's a full tip, so it doesn't just 692 00:29:45,185 --> 00:29:46,945 Speaker 3: stick on like the free edge part. It goes all 693 00:29:46,945 --> 00:29:49,705 Speaker 3: the way down to the cuticle. Oh okay, and it's 694 00:29:49,865 --> 00:29:52,865 Speaker 3: put on with gel, so the actual tip is made 695 00:29:52,905 --> 00:29:56,225 Speaker 3: of gel and then it's cured with gel. So they're 696 00:29:56,305 --> 00:29:59,665 Speaker 3: really quick and easy, and when you get good at them, 697 00:29:59,865 --> 00:30:01,825 Speaker 3: you know you can get nails done in a lot 698 00:30:01,905 --> 00:30:06,985 Speaker 3: quicker time. My reasoning for not loving them for people 699 00:30:06,985 --> 00:30:09,185 Speaker 3: that are having regular nails is because they have to 700 00:30:09,185 --> 00:30:11,305 Speaker 3: be removed every time. So every time you come back 701 00:30:11,345 --> 00:30:13,345 Speaker 3: they're having them taken off. You're going to thin out 702 00:30:13,345 --> 00:30:16,985 Speaker 3: you our play harsh. Essentially, it's going to at some 703 00:30:17,185 --> 00:30:19,265 Speaker 3: point thin out the nail and you're going to have 704 00:30:19,425 --> 00:30:22,625 Speaker 3: weakening of the noil plate. But again I mean each 705 00:30:22,665 --> 00:30:24,185 Speaker 3: to their own, like hopefull one. 706 00:30:25,345 --> 00:30:28,945 Speaker 4: We're in the beauty industry. Yeah, saving lives. No, that's true, exactly, 707 00:30:29,105 --> 00:30:29,785 Speaker 4: it's great to know. 708 00:30:30,025 --> 00:30:32,625 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's something that just for someone if 709 00:30:33,025 --> 00:30:35,265 Speaker 3: like if they don't care if they nails get damaged, 710 00:30:35,345 --> 00:30:37,425 Speaker 3: go for it, keep having them done. But yeah, gel 711 00:30:37,665 --> 00:30:41,025 Speaker 3: X is maybe not quite the thing that you want 712 00:30:41,065 --> 00:30:43,625 Speaker 3: to get done regularly, but definitely for a four more 713 00:30:43,865 --> 00:30:46,585 Speaker 3: or girls at school that you know can't have nails 714 00:30:46,625 --> 00:30:48,105 Speaker 3: at school and they just want them for two weeks 715 00:30:48,145 --> 00:30:48,865 Speaker 3: in the holidays. 716 00:30:49,065 --> 00:30:50,465 Speaker 1: Perfect, They're perfect for that. 717 00:30:50,545 --> 00:30:52,065 Speaker 4: And when I go back to netball, what should I 718 00:30:52,105 --> 00:30:54,425 Speaker 4: be asking for if not SNS, I feel. 719 00:30:54,185 --> 00:30:56,585 Speaker 3: Like you need like a structured gel maney. 720 00:30:56,385 --> 00:30:58,185 Speaker 1: So if I say structured gel money, they'll know what 721 00:30:58,225 --> 00:30:58,585 Speaker 1: that is. 722 00:30:58,905 --> 00:31:02,625 Speaker 3: Maybe not, maybe not. I'm going to see if I 723 00:31:02,665 --> 00:31:04,105 Speaker 3: can find I'm going to see if I can find 724 00:31:04,145 --> 00:31:07,945 Speaker 3: someone in Sydney. No, but honestly, like at the end 725 00:31:07,945 --> 00:31:09,825 Speaker 3: of the day though, like if you like going to 726 00:31:09,985 --> 00:31:12,105 Speaker 3: your place, I don't they get you in and out. 727 00:31:12,585 --> 00:31:16,065 Speaker 3: It's easy, though, isn't it. So you know, look, maybe 728 00:31:16,105 --> 00:31:17,825 Speaker 3: I'll see if I can find a couple of names 729 00:31:17,825 --> 00:31:20,545 Speaker 3: for you and you can try out getting like some 730 00:31:20,745 --> 00:31:23,145 Speaker 3: real like thorough noil prep done and see if it 731 00:31:23,185 --> 00:31:25,425 Speaker 3: makes a difference. See if you're like, you know what, Yeah, 732 00:31:25,465 --> 00:31:28,745 Speaker 3: I can go four weeks now, so yeah, maybe give 733 00:31:28,825 --> 00:31:29,345 Speaker 3: that a try. 734 00:31:29,585 --> 00:31:30,625 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. 735 00:31:30,865 --> 00:31:34,025 Speaker 4: We appreciate your brains and you're sharing so much with 736 00:31:34,105 --> 00:31:34,545 Speaker 4: us today. 737 00:31:34,585 --> 00:31:36,945 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Yeah, it was really fun. 738 00:31:37,785 --> 00:31:40,065 Speaker 4: I know our ubis are just going to love everything 739 00:31:40,105 --> 00:31:43,145 Speaker 4: that Sarah shared today. It was so interesting and I 740 00:31:43,225 --> 00:31:45,465 Speaker 4: really well, I need to stop. 741 00:31:45,225 --> 00:31:48,705 Speaker 1: Doing a couple of things. 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