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Speaker 4: of Out Loud episodes that inspired us over the last

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Speaker 1: I've always wanted to try the color analysis thing, and

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad there's finally a filter for it.

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Speaker 3: But I need your health now. I have no idea

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Speaker 3: what season I am? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Mama Mia out Loud.

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Speaker 4: I'm Holly Wainwright, I'm mea Friedman, and I'm Jesse Stevens.

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Speaker 2: And today we have a very special episode for you.

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Speaker 2: You may have heard us obsessing lately about a certain something,

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Speaker 2: and that is our colors. Our colors, the colors we

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Speaker 2: should wear, the science of colors. I think you started it,

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Speaker 4: I saw it on TikTok and then I became like

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Speaker 4: one of those Internet experts who thinks that they can

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Speaker 4: even though I have no background. In fact, a very

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Speaker 1: Turned out you got quite close.

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Speaker 4: I quite close because I studied really hard. But we

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Speaker 4: actually thought, why don't we do something we never do, which.

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Speaker 2: Is get an expert. So if you're going what are

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Speaker 2: you talking about with your colors? What colors you should

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Speaker 2: wear is dictated by what season you are, and color

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Speaker 2: experts like the wonderful Kim Crowley who joins us today,

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Speaker 2: can read you and they can tell you exactly what

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Speaker 2: of colors you can wear. Kim, welcome, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: How did you become a color expert?

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Speaker 2: Kim?

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Speaker 3: I'm a former fashion designer, so I had to know color,

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Speaker 3: isn't it a bit obsollete? But dated?

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Speaker 1: And you've got a business called style since that's what

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Speaker 2: So everybody, regardless of skin tone, and there are many, many,

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Speaker 3: Absolute it's a seasonal wheel. Absolutely every single person sits

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Speaker 2: So when we got involved in this in the first place,

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Speaker 1: Quite down to earth.

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Speaker 2: So my colors are quite which I always suspected but

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Speaker 3: No s, you know exactly exactly. That's the thing. We

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Speaker 1: Right, So you feel like you can't go wrong with

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Speaker 3: A lot of papers exactly exactly. So it's so interesting

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Speaker 2: What about when the universe isn't in agreement with you?

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Speaker 2: So you know how, we'll all be told, this is

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Speaker 2: the blue everyone's wearing this winter, this is the pink

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Speaker 2: Live it tell you to sleep well, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: You know you will be fashionable, and I'm ever fashionable anyway.

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Speaker 1: The best thing about getting my colors done when Kim

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Speaker 1: did them, and knowing what they are definitively the way

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean if there's a color that's not right on you,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you have to throw it away or

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Speaker 3: What does it do to you? Just makes you look

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Speaker 3: people if they're really cold, like Leely Campbell, if we

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Speaker 1: And you said to me, because I said, I love

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Speaker 4: Everyone knows experience of going to work, going somewhere and

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Speaker 3: We want to remain balanced, That's what we want to do, right.

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Speaker 3: So you're starting to fight. So therefore, all the clothes

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Speaker 3: I say we because we're based warm and autumn, and

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Speaker 2: There's a good raisin look, so you know some So

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Speaker 1: You've got quite good color, beautiful except for the black

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Speaker 3: Jesse, you also remember you could go softer in the color.

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Speaker 3: So we've done a little checklist, actually from the Nothing

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Speaker 3: Yes, style sense dot net dot au or look at

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Speaker 1: And what I've done is I've printed out my best

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Speaker 2: I don't wear fluoro pants with your navy top.

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Speaker 3: Oh, if you really love it, because I'm not ever

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Speaker 3: going to say you cannot ever wear a color. That's

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Speaker 3: not the way I teach. The way I teach is

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Speaker 3: the more you shop into your palette, the better you're

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Speaker 3: going to feel. The less clothes you have to own,

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Speaker 3: the less money you spend, the less thinking you'll have

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Speaker 3: to do, the less waste. It's just brilliant. And once

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Speaker 3: the clarity that you get from being able to shop

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Speaker 3: right and a shopers listening and goes, oh, can you

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Speaker 3: should try on this lovely yellow? No, no, lemon yellow is

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Speaker 3: not go for me? Can you show me the mustard?

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Speaker 3: I can converse with her to get me to the

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Speaker 3: point where I'm going to make a purchase quicker, smarter.

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Speaker 3: I take that home, that mustard garment, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: can I make three outfits?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I can make thirteen or thirty.

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Speaker 2: Because it works with your power, works with everything.

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Speaker 3: And that's the quantifying this where I've seen clients before

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Speaker 3: and they're like, no, I'm going to skip the color

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Speaker 3: analysis part. Cour We'll just outfit your wardrobe because that's

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Speaker 3: the other part of what I do. So literally pull

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Speaker 3: our their wardrobe out and we start to outfit all

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Speaker 3: in brand new outfits. Right things they've never thought about.

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Speaker 3: We create maybe thirty to forty out fits if they

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Speaker 3: haven't had any color analysis. When they've done a color analysis,

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Speaker 3: it's about ninety wow, ninety brand new outfits. So if

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Speaker 3: you don't think this works, yeah, think again. It is

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Speaker 3: so amazing. And that's why so many of my clients

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Speaker 3: are so passionate about this color system.

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Speaker 1: As I am, I can say that suddenly, like that

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Speaker 1: shirt that I bought in that sort of coralie terracotta color,

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Speaker 1: Suddenly it's pulled together so many things in my wardrobe.

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Speaker 1: It's so interesting.

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Speaker 4: And I need rules because I'm not intuitive about fashion

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Speaker 4: and I really struggle with it and I want to

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Speaker 4: think about it less. And I know when I'm looking

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Speaker 4: online and you never know whether what you're looking at

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Speaker 4: online is the light color. But even walking into shops,

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Speaker 4: I just go, oh, obviously, got try it on for

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Speaker 4: the size. But I'm like, I'm starting from zero every time,

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Speaker 4: I'll exactly.

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Speaker 3: So what we want to do? You want to go

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Speaker 3: into store and you go, oh, no, that pink's a

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Speaker 3: bit too much. Here's my pink, and then you shop

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Speaker 3: into shape, right, so you go out colors, and then

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Speaker 3: it's shape second, because once you've taken the risk of

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Speaker 3: color out, all you've got to then do is figure

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Speaker 3: out do I like the shape? Is it the right?

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Speaker 3: Do I need to go down a size? Probably? And

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Speaker 3: all those things. The risk of color is taken out,

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Speaker 3: so you're shopping, you get to where you need to

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Speaker 3: get so much quicker because not everything is meant for you.

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Speaker 3: And when I realized that about my own so much,

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Speaker 3: it was like, I'm not trying to fight with black and.

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Speaker 2: Yes, life changing clearly and also out loud, as we're

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Speaker 2: wearing the colors we're meant to be wearing right now, Yes,

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Speaker 2: wearing all of them.

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Speaker 3: Just on the spring.

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Speaker 2: This is the right blue for me. Apparently this is

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Speaker 2: the right one for Those are Jesse's colors, So thank you, Kim.

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Speaker 2: Of course you're wearing your color bloody lovely.

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Speaker 3: I do go off palette sometimes, but very rarely.

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