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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mom and Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and

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Speaker 2: waters that this podcast is recorded on Hello, and welcome

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Speaker 2: to canceled the podcast that looks at silly celebrity crimes

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Speaker 2: and as science charges and sentences to them so that

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Speaker 2: we can all move on with our lives. My name

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Speaker 2: is Jesse Stevens and I'm joined by Claire Stephens. And Claire,

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Speaker 2: do you have a lazy girl story for us today? Well?

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Speaker 2: What I have and this is a bit of a

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Speaker 2: new genre of lazy girl story. It's actually lazy girl

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Speaker 2: in the news. Oh so like a headline that I

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Speaker 2: might lazy girl. Okay, we got sent This woman runs

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Speaker 2: through active shooting without realizing due to her noise canceling AirPods.

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Speaker 2: She's a lazy girl. That's very lazy girl. That is

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Speaker 2: what not the running Oh no, sorry, being unaware of surroundings,

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Speaker 2: being incredibly unaware of what is going on around you.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I'd say is sometimes airpod's not that lazy.

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Speaker 2: So I went to use my airpod's day to listen

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Speaker 2: to a podcast right ere zero percent, So I go, hmm, okay,

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Speaker 2: and then I'm just listening to a podcast out loud

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Speaker 2: on the street. Yeah, I'm often doing that. It's like

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Speaker 2: I've already charged this once and you're asking me to

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Speaker 2: charge it again constantly and how yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: where you tell me where my charger is because I

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Speaker 2: don't got to speak.

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Speaker 3: You are about to enter the canceled courtroom. The defendants

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Speaker 3: are celebrities, the chargers are petty, the rulings are final.

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Speaker 2: Today we're talking about Stephanie Joanne Angelina german Otta, the

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Speaker 2: thirty eight year old singer, songwriter and actress best known

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Speaker 2: There's Lady Gaga. Gaga ulana parla la la raha.

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Speaker 1: Roma roma la.

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Speaker 4: La lamas.

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Speaker 5: I can't read.

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Speaker 2: If you could do something dangerous just for once, with

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Speaker 2: new risk, what would you do die?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I have an interesting mind, but I want

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Speaker 4: to smell like a slut, to be totally honest.

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Speaker 2: Born in nineteen eighty six, Gaga grew up on I

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Speaker 2: know it's Gaga, but it's so really to say it's

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Speaker 2: Lady Gagar. It's Lady Gaga. She grew up on the

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Speaker 2: Upper West Side of Manhattan, the connotations of which I

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Speaker 2: don't fully understand, but she describes herself as having been

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Speaker 2: I think that's what rich people say, because I don't

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Speaker 2: think you're allowed to self identify as rich or elite,

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Speaker 2: Like I grew up really fucking wealthy. I don't think

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Speaker 2: middle class. She started playing the piano at four when

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Speaker 2: her mum insisted she become a cultured young woman. Claire,

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Speaker 2: what will you suggest your daughter do it for to

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Speaker 2: become a cultured young woman? Because I was sinking a

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Speaker 2: familiar which I can't pronounce, but it's wine. Well, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: I want my daughter to play an instrument. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: I have this. I can only describe it as a thing.

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Speaker 2: It looks like a piano, but it's bright colors and

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Speaker 2: when you press a button, it does a whole song. Oh,

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Speaker 2: she's playing piano. It drives us nuts. This is why

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Speaker 2: we're getting dumber as a species. Yeah, because you don't

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Speaker 2: have to play, You just have to. She thinks she's

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Speaker 2: playing piano. Yeah, she's never gonna be Stephanie Joeann and

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Speaker 2: Angelina Jemanntal never. In recent weeks, Gaga has been in

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Speaker 2: the headlines. Yeah, she's in Paris. Yeah, she performed. There

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Speaker 2: fell aheah looked, she looked painful. She couldn't do anything

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Speaker 2: about it. Not her fault, not cancelable. But what did

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Speaker 2: happen is that she was speaking to the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: and she said this is my fiance, right, and they

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Speaker 2: some accusations that she pulled focus. This is meant to

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Speaker 2: I talking about Lady Gagar's engagement?

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Speaker 2: And I also think because she's talked about her performance

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Speaker 2: She got into the music industry and she was singing

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Speaker 2: a question, whatever happened to Akon? Okay, okay, yes, begs

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Speaker 2: that question. I'm so lonely, mister lonely, you know, I

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Speaker 2: wondered that. But also that's very A star is born,

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Speaker 2: it is, isn't it. There are a few founding stories

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Speaker 2: thousand and eight and she was twenty two when Just

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Speaker 2: Dance and Poker Face dropped, which went number one everywhere,

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Speaker 2: but especially in Australia. Australia is always old in the

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Speaker 2: cultural precipice. We are the basic bitch of the culture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we need art to be simple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. People Australia loves disproportionately Michael Boublay Yeah, pink, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's like if the culture broadly accept something, it's number

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Speaker 2: Since then, she has won thirteen Grammys, two Golden Globe Awards,

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Speaker 2: you respect? Where? Where? And also like, how do you

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Speaker 2: get access to other people's net worth? I guess and

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're a person. I think your ar

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Speaker 2: Before we begin, you have seen House of Gucci, which

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Speaker 2: I have been exclusively referring to as that Fasachi film

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Speaker 2: It is an empire.

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Speaker 6: You can help the family, which is not exciting, and

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Speaker 2: It looks good by the trailer. I watched the trailer

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Speaker 2: Not yours and I all four tearing apart in accent.

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Speaker 2: Some would say it's all we do in this courtroom.

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Speaker 2: You play someone silly accent from a movie and make

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Speaker 2: David Bowie tribute, and finally the covid kerfuffle, no meat dress.

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Speaker 2: It's September twenty ten, and Lady Gaga is It's at

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Speaker 2: the MTV Video Music Awards. She was the most nominated artist.

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Speaker 2: She arrived in a normal dress with shoes, but then

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Speaker 2: her Video of the Year trophy for Bad Romance.

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Speaker 1: I never thought I'd be asking share to hold my

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Speaker 5: I was so nervous for tonight that I would let

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Speaker 6: I love you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to my family and Troy and Bence and

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Iveen. And I promised if I won this tonight,

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Speaker 1: I'd announce the name of my new record. It's called

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Speaker 1: Born This way.

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Speaker 6: How bad and fall in my way because God makes

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Speaker 2: Was born this, Claire. Here's a picture as a reminder.

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Speaker 2: Please describe for our listeners. The meat dress. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: what she's wearing is a dress that appears to be

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Speaker 2: made out of meat. Do you remember this? I remember

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Speaker 2: it very very well. She's got a head like a

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Speaker 2: little hat that looks like a piece of liver or something.

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Speaker 2: I think it looks like a placenta. It does the

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Speaker 2: placenta fit fascinator very place end to esque. And then

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Speaker 2: on her feet she has shoes and it's like these

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Speaker 2: But it's also very like it's not even strips of bacon,

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Speaker 2: I don't mind the cut. It's very very fleshy. And

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Speaker 2: So I'm imagining and I actually have completely forgotten like

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Speaker 2: It was real met just real mate. Why apparently it's okay.

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Speaker 2: I thought maybe it just looked like meat. No, and

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Speaker 2: she was making some vegan point. No, she's an artist, Claire.

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Speaker 2: It's real meat. Okay, so it's real meat. The point

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Speaker 2: is go unclear. All right, Well, Peter's mad. It's commentary.

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Speaker 2: Peter's mad. Peter is not happy. We will get to that.

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Speaker 2: Gaga explained the meaning behind the dress to Ellen DeGeneres.

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Speaker 2: Are you listening, Claire, because this is very important about

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Speaker 2: the meaning of the dress.

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Speaker 5: She said, there has many interpretations, but for me this evening,

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Speaker 5: it's as if we don't stand up for what we

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Speaker 5: believe in, if we don't fight for our raids, pretty

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Speaker 5: soon we're going to have as much rights as the

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Speaker 5: meat on our buns.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hold on, hold on. If you weren't making a

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Speaker 2: point about women's rights, for example, in America, and you

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Speaker 2: were trying to say, like, women are treated like animals,

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Speaker 2: some animals have more rights than women. That could be

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Speaker 2: That's not her point. This is like when you read

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Speaker 2: a poem in English, and the teacher tells you what

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Speaker 2: I'm being in clearer? Is Lady Yaga consent? It was

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Speaker 2: And then this vomit artist drinks things and then vomits.

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Speaker 2: what do you think Lady Gaga was trying to say

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Speaker 2: with her Vomit Artist. I think, if her meat dresses

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Speaker 2: I am saying is it's just what we wanted to create. Gaga. Ah, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Which is art? That doesn't make any motherfucking said the

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't make that comparison at all. I don't mean

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Speaker 3: This is Madonna's voice.

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Speaker 4: One hundred people in the room, and ninety nine people

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Speaker 4: Person who did Lady Gaga. There can be one hundred

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Speaker 1: I probably said this earlier, but there can be one

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Speaker 2: you something something Bradley Cooper. Sometimes she does get lost

422
00:24:30,629 --> 00:24:33,429
Speaker 2: in it because she's improvised too much, but she plays

423
00:24:33,429 --> 00:24:36,429
Speaker 2: with it. She plays with it. She's also feuded with

424
00:24:36,469 --> 00:24:40,669
Speaker 2: the Osborne's. In twenty thirteen, Kelly Osborne said Garga had

425
00:24:40,669 --> 00:24:43,069
Speaker 2: been disrespectful to her fans when she'd skip the red

426
00:24:43,109 --> 00:24:45,149
Speaker 2: carpet at the Grammys, and then a year later she

427
00:24:45,229 --> 00:24:49,069
Speaker 2: was on Fashion Police and Osborne said that Gargar looked pregnant.

428
00:24:49,749 --> 00:24:53,309
Speaker 2: Oh come. Kelly got mad because Gargles fans came up

429
00:24:53,309 --> 00:24:55,509
Speaker 2: to her and she was all like, make them stop.

430
00:24:55,829 --> 00:24:59,149
Speaker 2: And then Garga went on X Factor with Sharon Osborne,

431
00:24:59,349 --> 00:25:02,749
Speaker 2: Kelly's mum, and gave her a birthday cake to pass

432
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:05,069
Speaker 2: on to Kelly, sort of to put an end to

433
00:25:05,109 --> 00:25:07,669
Speaker 2: their rift. Lovely, It's had happy birthday, Kelly. She got

434
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:10,349
Speaker 2: a photo with it. She was like, nah, anyway, Kelly

435
00:25:10,349 --> 00:25:12,349
Speaker 2: Osborne saw this, what do you think? She said, thanks

436
00:25:12,389 --> 00:25:15,669
Speaker 2: for the cake, I don't know what. Happy birthday to

437
00:25:15,749 --> 00:25:20,589
Speaker 2: me hipipperay yeah, yeah, no. She tweeted, not to be ungrateful,

438
00:25:20,669 --> 00:25:23,149
Speaker 2: but why would you send me a birthday cake via

439
00:25:23,229 --> 00:25:26,669
Speaker 2: my mother in a country half the world away? Hashtag

440
00:25:26,829 --> 00:25:30,549
Speaker 2: just send it to me? Hashtag love not war. Okay,

441
00:25:30,589 --> 00:25:32,749
Speaker 2: it was a symbol. It was a symbol. But I

442
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:35,709
Speaker 2: also see a point because it's how Kelly saying, how

443
00:25:35,749 --> 00:25:38,669
Speaker 2: will I get the cake? It won't be fresh, it

444
00:25:38,709 --> 00:25:42,589
Speaker 2: won't be fresh. I'm delivering another plate directly. Yeah, I'll

445
00:25:42,589 --> 00:25:43,949
Speaker 2: put it in the fridge. If you want to give

446
00:25:43,949 --> 00:25:45,429
Speaker 2: me a cake, give me a cake. It's like I'll

447
00:25:45,429 --> 00:25:47,789
Speaker 2: have a slice every night. Yeah, don't give a cake

448
00:25:47,829 --> 00:25:51,469
Speaker 2: to my mother. She'll eat it and she can chuck it.

449
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:55,309
Speaker 2: Ys of cake and waste of me. And in fact,

450
00:25:55,309 --> 00:26:00,509
Speaker 2: you're also wating milk, green milk. Yeah. She also tweeted

451
00:26:00,589 --> 00:26:04,109
Speaker 2: hashtag Stephanie, stop it. You are so far behind you

452
00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:07,389
Speaker 2: think you are first. I live for a hashtag cause,

453
00:26:07,789 --> 00:26:11,949
Speaker 2: not for the hashtag applause. Okay, alright, she gotta be

454
00:26:11,989 --> 00:26:15,909
Speaker 2: carried away. Actually she wasn't being okay, Yeah, but that's okay.

455
00:26:16,029 --> 00:26:20,869
Speaker 2: So Kelly o wasborn hates Lady Gaga because she got

456
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:25,029
Speaker 2: carried away with the pause, because she got a cake.

457
00:26:25,229 --> 00:26:28,709
Speaker 2: She didn't actually get yes after Kelly called her pregnant

458
00:26:28,749 --> 00:26:31,949
Speaker 2: when she wasn't okay. It's at this point I need

459
00:26:32,029 --> 00:26:34,309
Speaker 2: to enter something into the court room. I loved Fashion

460
00:26:34,349 --> 00:26:40,429
Speaker 2: Police in hindsight, it was so wrong, so wrong. It's cruel.

461
00:26:40,589 --> 00:26:45,749
Speaker 2: It was women, only exclusively to women. It was Joan Rivers. Yeah,

462
00:26:45,829 --> 00:26:48,949
Speaker 2: I think Juliana ran sick. Yeah, yeah, Kelly Osbourne and

463
00:26:48,989 --> 00:26:52,789
Speaker 2: they just sat there pitching, saying stuff you wouldn't say

464
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:55,269
Speaker 2: in a group chat and that you wouldn't say to

465
00:26:55,309 --> 00:26:59,629
Speaker 2: someone's face. But the person was watching always, I was watching, yeah, Claire.

466
00:26:59,709 --> 00:27:03,189
Speaker 2: The internet has been scrubbed. There are traces of feuds

467
00:27:03,229 --> 00:27:06,269
Speaker 2: and clips that are referred to that cannot be located.

468
00:27:06,829 --> 00:27:10,469
Speaker 2: I think Lady Gaga has some pr team working over

469
00:27:10,509 --> 00:27:14,389
Speaker 2: time because they are taken clips and deleting them, which

470
00:27:14,389 --> 00:27:17,669
Speaker 2: clips okay. She has a long standing feud with Perez

471
00:27:17,749 --> 00:27:22,309
Speaker 2: Hilton Oh love. Yes. Apparently they fell out on an

472
00:27:22,349 --> 00:27:25,389
Speaker 2: Australian cooking show, and do you think I could find

473
00:27:25,429 --> 00:27:28,389
Speaker 2: that footage? I would pay any amount of money to

474
00:27:28,429 --> 00:27:32,029
Speaker 2: see it. So instead I found a forty six minute

475
00:27:32,069 --> 00:27:37,229
Speaker 2: podcast recapping the Perez Hilton and Lady Gargar feud Lovely

476
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:39,669
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm a busy person. I have time

477
00:27:39,749 --> 00:27:43,069
Speaker 2: to listen for forty six minute podcast. Anyway, I listened

478
00:27:43,109 --> 00:27:44,989
Speaker 2: to it. I listened to the whole thing. Would you

479
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:48,029
Speaker 2: like to hear what happened? Yes, okay. Perez says he

480
00:27:48,109 --> 00:27:51,069
Speaker 2: discovers Lady Gargar via some mixtape that he was given

481
00:27:51,429 --> 00:27:53,029
Speaker 2: and then he was like, I want her to perform

482
00:27:53,069 --> 00:27:55,429
Speaker 2: at one of my parties. It was just dance. And

483
00:27:55,469 --> 00:27:58,109
Speaker 2: then while she's performing at the party, some like very

484
00:27:58,109 --> 00:28:01,629
Speaker 2: famous guy. Is there kids on the block? New kids

485
00:28:01,669 --> 00:28:03,589
Speaker 2: on the block. I don't know, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

486
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:05,989
Speaker 2: ring Yeah. He hears it, and he's like, we want

487
00:28:06,029 --> 00:28:08,869
Speaker 2: her to support us. So Perez Hilton kind of thinks

488
00:28:08,869 --> 00:28:12,069
Speaker 2: that he discovered Lady Gargar. Then they become very close

489
00:28:12,469 --> 00:28:15,189
Speaker 2: best friends. This seems to be a trap with Perez.

490
00:28:15,589 --> 00:28:19,269
Speaker 2: He has friends that become enemies. Yeah, so best best friends.

491
00:28:19,309 --> 00:28:23,549
Speaker 2: But then he is doing Access Hollywood where he's interviewing

492
00:28:23,589 --> 00:28:26,069
Speaker 2: her and he's kind of trailing her around and they

493
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:28,469
Speaker 2: end up in Australia. At this point, I just have

494
00:28:28,509 --> 00:28:30,549
Speaker 2: a series of question marks because I can't work out

495
00:28:30,589 --> 00:28:33,669
Speaker 2: why they're here. Yeah, And he asks her about this

496
00:28:33,869 --> 00:28:36,589
Speaker 2: controversy about her song Judas at the time, and she

497
00:28:36,629 --> 00:28:39,869
Speaker 2: seems uncomfortable, and then about her boyfriend, and she gets

498
00:28:39,949 --> 00:28:42,789
Speaker 2: very mad and she abruptly ends the interview and they

499
00:28:42,829 --> 00:28:46,869
Speaker 2: have a massive falling out. Wow apparently, he says Slash

500
00:28:46,949 --> 00:28:50,309
Speaker 2: the Internet says that she was potentially like she'd been

501
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:53,189
Speaker 2: drinking that day and she was overly emotional. I cannot

502
00:28:53,429 --> 00:28:57,629
Speaker 2: confirm or deny because I cannot see them tis yep.

503
00:28:58,109 --> 00:29:00,549
Speaker 2: They don't speak for years. Then she's on a stage

504
00:29:00,589 --> 00:29:04,029
Speaker 2: and she breaks her hip like while performing, and she

505
00:29:04,069 --> 00:29:05,549
Speaker 2: has to get surgery or something. She comes out of

506
00:29:05,549 --> 00:29:08,829
Speaker 2: surgery and perez out of nowhere. They haven't spoken for ages.

507
00:29:09,149 --> 00:29:11,909
Speaker 2: Sends her a meme of her in a wheelchair and

508
00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:14,069
Speaker 2: Madonna holding a gun to her head with the words

509
00:29:14,109 --> 00:29:21,909
Speaker 2: calm old, oh, come on now. Ye she's not in

510
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:24,349
Speaker 2: a good way. He has tweeted about it and written

511
00:29:24,349 --> 00:29:26,389
Speaker 2: about it in his memoir, like their feud, and he's

512
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:29,069
Speaker 2: done YouTube videos and been like I don't care, I

513
00:29:29,189 --> 00:29:31,069
Speaker 2: forgive you, and then he comes back and is like,

514
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:34,669
Speaker 2: you made me write mean things about Extina, which is

515
00:29:34,749 --> 00:29:39,909
Speaker 2: Christina Aguilera, and apparently she did. Okay, everyone here needs

516
00:29:39,949 --> 00:29:42,949
Speaker 2: a deep breath. You need to do some journally, we

517
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:45,789
Speaker 2: need to relax. This is the press. I think it's

518
00:29:45,829 --> 00:29:51,109
Speaker 2: a very troubled person. Okay, everyone who gets too close

519
00:29:51,149 --> 00:29:56,829
Speaker 2: to Perez ends up embroiled in drama because it's all

520
00:29:56,869 --> 00:29:59,829
Speaker 2: of this, like he's taking someone down, all of that,

521
00:30:00,309 --> 00:30:03,589
Speaker 2: and it's like the common denominator mate is you, And

522
00:30:03,629 --> 00:30:05,789
Speaker 2: I don't think Perez is your real name. It's not.

523
00:30:06,269 --> 00:30:11,629
Speaker 2: I think you're trying to be Paris Hilm. It's confusing.

524
00:30:16,589 --> 00:30:21,109
Speaker 2: A very weird David Bowie tribute. This had also largely

525
00:30:21,149 --> 00:30:23,909
Speaker 2: been scrubbed from the internet. I'm over here trying to

526
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:26,549
Speaker 2: do my due diligence. I work hard for the dollar.

527
00:30:26,589 --> 00:30:29,829
Speaker 2: I'm hustling, and do you think YouTube will find me

528
00:30:29,989 --> 00:30:33,109
Speaker 2: this clip that everyone's talking about. I actually do find

529
00:30:33,109 --> 00:30:38,189
Speaker 2: it very interesting that there are a few, particularly with celebrities,

530
00:30:39,069 --> 00:30:41,109
Speaker 2: there are a few kind of stories that you know,

531
00:30:41,429 --> 00:30:44,549
Speaker 2: are bubbly, yew things get taken down and I'm thinking,

532
00:30:44,629 --> 00:30:46,629
Speaker 2: who how, well, that's what I was doing. I was

533
00:30:46,669 --> 00:30:49,709
Speaker 2: walking around my house hutting, and then I just googled it.

534
00:30:49,789 --> 00:30:53,069
Speaker 2: I found it. Oh, I did find it good. So

535
00:30:53,189 --> 00:30:56,349
Speaker 2: at the twenty sixteen Grammys, Lady Gaga does a tribute

536
00:30:56,349 --> 00:30:59,069
Speaker 2: to the English singer songwriter actor David Bowie, who had

537
00:30:59,069 --> 00:31:01,909
Speaker 2: died earlier that year. She's a six minute melody of

538
00:31:01,989 --> 00:31:23,389
Speaker 2: nine different songs.

539
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:19,829
Speaker 1: Way.

540
00:31:13,069 --> 00:31:18,309
Speaker 2: Until the Sun Play the Way. People did not like it,

541
00:31:18,429 --> 00:31:22,989
Speaker 2: but mostly David Bowie's son did not lie. Slate in

542
00:31:23,069 --> 00:31:26,069
Speaker 2: their commentary, said that it felt as though her performance

543
00:31:26,589 --> 00:31:30,589
Speaker 2: was just watching her discover as she went along how

544
00:31:30,669 --> 00:31:33,589
Speaker 2: ill suited she was to this material and couldn't do

545
00:31:33,629 --> 00:31:37,069
Speaker 2: the performance. Vulture described it as messy and chaotic. The

546
00:31:37,149 --> 00:31:40,029
Speaker 2: Sydney Morning Herald said she came across as a second

547
00:31:40,109 --> 00:31:44,989
Speaker 2: rate imitator, and David Bowie's son, Duncan Jones, tweeted over

548
00:31:45,069 --> 00:31:48,949
Speaker 2: excited or irrational, typically as a result of infatuation or

549
00:31:48,989 --> 00:31:54,309
Speaker 2: excessive enthusiasm, mentally confused, damn it, what is that word? Claire?

550
00:31:54,669 --> 00:31:58,549
Speaker 2: He has tweeted the Dictionary definition of Gaga on no

551
00:32:00,309 --> 00:32:02,269
Speaker 2: and she would have thought, Oh, why did I call

552
00:32:02,429 --> 00:32:05,709
Speaker 2: myself lady Gaga. I handed that one to him. Yeah,

553
00:32:05,749 --> 00:32:08,269
Speaker 2: she was very gracious about the tweet. She said it hurt,

554
00:32:08,469 --> 00:32:10,869
Speaker 2: but that is his dad, so he's titled to his

555
00:32:10,909 --> 00:32:14,629
Speaker 2: own opinion. Yeah, wasn't a good tribute, Claire, Oh No,

556
00:32:14,949 --> 00:32:17,749
Speaker 2: too many songs. Nine songs in six minutes is too many.

557
00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:20,789
Speaker 2: You did too much. But to call her an imitation,

558
00:32:20,949 --> 00:32:22,669
Speaker 2: it's like, well, what she meant to do? Yeah, that's

559
00:32:22,749 --> 00:32:24,189
Speaker 2: kind of what she was. She kind of said that.

560
00:32:24,429 --> 00:32:25,909
Speaker 2: She's like, I actually don't know why I was asked

561
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:27,549
Speaker 2: to do it. I'm going to sing a song to him.

562
00:32:27,669 --> 00:32:30,509
Speaker 2: If the whole thing was weird, sick, play.

563
00:32:32,109 --> 00:32:34,989
Speaker 1: Jam and gird with Weird and Tony.

564
00:32:36,109 --> 00:32:41,349
Speaker 2: Was from Mars. Finally the covid kerfuffle. Earlier this year,

565
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:44,309
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga was interviewed at the La Premiere for her

566
00:32:44,349 --> 00:32:47,389
Speaker 2: new film, which is a concert special that looks back

567
00:32:47,429 --> 00:32:50,389
Speaker 2: at the tour she did in twenty twenty two. You

568
00:32:50,429 --> 00:32:54,069
Speaker 2: haven't mentioned five foot two? Yeah, her documentary, what what

569
00:32:54,229 --> 00:32:58,429
Speaker 2: of it? I've seen her. She doesn't come across that well. Continue.

570
00:32:58,469 --> 00:33:00,629
Speaker 2: I don't think she came across that well either, but

571
00:33:00,669 --> 00:33:01,989
Speaker 2: I think she was in a good way, and she

572
00:33:02,029 --> 00:33:06,389
Speaker 2: brought up her Majonna feud twice, any other comments, and

573
00:33:06,589 --> 00:33:09,909
Speaker 2: I just said she's five foot two, okay. Right before

574
00:33:09,949 --> 00:33:12,589
Speaker 2: the screening, the thirty eight year old was interviewed by

575
00:33:12,629 --> 00:33:16,269
Speaker 2: Access Hollywood again and she said, having a little bit

576
00:33:16,309 --> 00:33:19,149
Speaker 2: of a chuckle, that she did five shows of this

577
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:22,469
Speaker 2: tour with COVID. She explained, I shared the news with

578
00:33:22,469 --> 00:33:24,669
Speaker 2: everyone on my team. I said, I don't want anyone

579
00:33:24,709 --> 00:33:27,269
Speaker 2: to feel uncomfortable at work, and you don't have to perform,

580
00:33:27,309 --> 00:33:28,949
Speaker 2: and you don't have to work that day, but I'm

581
00:33:28,989 --> 00:33:30,949
Speaker 2: going to do the show because I didn't want to

582
00:33:30,989 --> 00:33:37,909
Speaker 2: let all the fans down. Gaga. That is ah ula

583
00:33:37,989 --> 00:33:45,749
Speaker 2: la u na na now a lajandro and that is

584
00:33:45,869 --> 00:33:49,789
Speaker 2: not something we do. And you know why, because there's

585
00:33:49,789 --> 00:33:52,589
Speaker 2: a power imbalance, because if you say to people, oh,

586
00:33:52,589 --> 00:33:54,549
Speaker 2: you don't have to work, I'll be performing, but you

587
00:33:54,589 --> 00:33:57,349
Speaker 2: don't have to work, as if people are going to

588
00:33:57,549 --> 00:34:00,109
Speaker 2: feel confident enough to say, Okay, yeah, I think you're

589
00:34:00,149 --> 00:34:03,949
Speaker 2: actually a little bit fun, Gaga, I'm not comfortable, Well

590
00:34:03,989 --> 00:34:07,549
Speaker 2: get another job. People were very upset. Some called for

591
00:34:07,629 --> 00:34:11,909
Speaker 2: her arrest, to which I say, what for. It's not illegal,

592
00:34:12,029 --> 00:34:16,389
Speaker 2: it's just frowned upon. All these videos started surfacing of

593
00:34:16,429 --> 00:34:19,309
Speaker 2: her walking through the crowd getting close to the fans. No,

594
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:23,509
Speaker 2: oh no, it's really it is not a good look.

595
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:27,109
Speaker 2: It comes across as profoundly selfish. I'm sorry. I know

596
00:34:27,229 --> 00:34:30,749
Speaker 2: I say this with a very sinusy voice, but I

597
00:34:30,789 --> 00:34:34,389
Speaker 2: do not have COVID. I've checked a million times. Gar

598
00:34:34,509 --> 00:34:37,389
Speaker 2: Gar is a murderer. No, she's not, but she could be. No,

599
00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:41,069
Speaker 2: that's over the top, but is it? Maybe not? I'm

600
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:44,469
Speaker 2: an anti that I reckon you just don't say it. Yeah,

601
00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:47,909
Speaker 2: just sh don't have a little giggle being like you

602
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:52,429
Speaker 2: know who works hard me with COVID. Yes, like, yeah, no,

603
00:34:52,509 --> 00:34:55,389
Speaker 2: absolutely not. But I do think whoever was making that

604
00:34:55,469 --> 00:34:58,749
Speaker 2: documentary was like, come on, share some more details because

605
00:34:58,749 --> 00:35:02,309
Speaker 2: they knew, they knew people would get mad. It's time

606
00:35:02,309 --> 00:35:12,829
Speaker 2: for charges and sentences. I'm gonna go first charge. Lady

607
00:35:12,869 --> 00:35:16,389
Speaker 2: Gaga loves making an artistic statement, loves it, lives for

608
00:35:16,469 --> 00:35:18,989
Speaker 2: it what she lacks. She's kind of like a year

609
00:35:18,989 --> 00:35:22,149
Speaker 2: twelve art student who like, who can like throw the

610
00:35:22,149 --> 00:35:24,629
Speaker 2: paint at the wall? Isn't good at the little essay

611
00:35:24,669 --> 00:35:27,749
Speaker 2: you got to write about? Why? Okay? I don't think

612
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:30,269
Speaker 2: she is aware of what the statement is and I

613
00:35:30,309 --> 00:35:33,589
Speaker 2: think she does get annoyed when asked because it's like

614
00:35:34,189 --> 00:35:36,589
Speaker 2: meat dress. She says meat dress, and people are like,

615
00:35:36,829 --> 00:35:39,309
Speaker 2: what mean by meat dress? And she's like meat dress

616
00:35:39,389 --> 00:35:42,709
Speaker 2: and so on. She's very artist in an art gallery

617
00:35:42,709 --> 00:35:44,909
Speaker 2: who draws a spot on a canvas and you're like,

618
00:35:44,989 --> 00:35:46,629
Speaker 2: I don't get it, and they're like, well, you don't

619
00:35:46,669 --> 00:35:49,429
Speaker 2: understand art, and it's like, my question is if I

620
00:35:49,469 --> 00:35:54,309
Speaker 2: don't understand it, then what is the point? Is my question? Yeah,

621
00:35:54,469 --> 00:35:56,749
Speaker 2: And same with the year twelve art student is like,

622
00:35:56,789 --> 00:35:59,469
Speaker 2: so you have no skill. That doesn't apply to Gaga.

623
00:35:59,549 --> 00:36:02,909
Speaker 2: She does have skill. You've done something silly at least

624
00:36:03,669 --> 00:36:07,469
Speaker 2: bullshit me at least that's ninety percent of art is

625
00:36:07,469 --> 00:36:11,989
Speaker 2: the bullshit. My sentence is a request for some clarification.

626
00:36:12,309 --> 00:36:15,349
Speaker 2: When we do an art, can we include an artist's statement?

627
00:36:15,709 --> 00:36:19,589
Speaker 2: And here's the clincher. It has to make sense to me. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I need a reflection, a translation so I can process.

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Speaker 2: I have no closure on the meat dress. I lose

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Speaker 2: sleep over that because I still do not understand what

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Speaker 2: we were doing. I'm upset about the jerky. I'm upset

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Speaker 2: about the jerky, I'm upset about the vomit because you can't.

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Speaker 2: Humans don't know what to do with things that don't

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Speaker 2: make sense. It's nice. I don't know why someone vomited

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Speaker 2: on you on stage, but I know that fact. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you did it. Okay. My charge

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Speaker 2: is I'm hung up on the COVID. Oh, I'm actually

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Speaker 2: still mad about that. So my charge is quite straightforward.

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Speaker 2: Performing with COVID. Oh, and my sentence is, you're performing

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Speaker 2: with it even if you don't have COVID, You've got

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Speaker 2: a running nose. I'm gonna have a running nose by

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Speaker 2: the time I walk out of this. Oh no, no, no, sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm the covied. I sound just sound terrible, Okay, but

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Speaker 2: I have been for a while. It's not going away.

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Speaker 2: If there are any doctors listening to this, great, give

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Speaker 2: me a sinus root. Anyway. With Gaga, there is something

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Speaker 2: in their counseled law book that we've talked about before.

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Speaker 2: It's called karma. And what I'll say is I want

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Speaker 2: somebody near her to say, I'm a hard worker. I'm

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Speaker 2: working with chicken pox, I'm working with COVID, I'm working

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Speaker 2: with a highly contagious, highly debilitating illness. And then I

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Speaker 2: want yeah, oh well, well, you said you're a role model,

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Speaker 2: and I thought that we liked to grind, to grind, grind.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if the meat dress had an illness, oh

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Speaker 2: like mad cow, and maybe she started it, maybe she

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Speaker 2: started swine flu. Yeah. I didn't do the things, but

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Speaker 2: I think that's why we don't wear meat. Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: I think we don't wear meat to events, crowded events

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Speaker 2: because I think it does cause swine Yeah. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, my sentence is karma and that

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Speaker 2: she is going to get sick from someone around her,

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Speaker 2: hustling with a contagious illness. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: joining us for this episode of Canceled. For all the

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Speaker 2: receipts go to the Twins underscore thoughts on Instagram. The

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Speaker 2: executive producer of Canceled is Kimberly Bradish, with audio production

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Speaker 2: by Tom Lyon. And we will be back next week.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye,