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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mamma Mir's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. It's Nadock Week, a time to

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Speaker 1: This year marks the fiftieth.

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Speaker 2: Nadock Week, so we're taking a look at how it

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Speaker 2: religious prophecy. Before we get there, Hugh is Claire Murphy

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Speaker 2: with the latest from the Quickie newsroom for Wednesday, July nine.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. The childcare operator caught up in allegations of

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Speaker 1: advice about their legal options, while the company, one of

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Speaker 2: I love that you mentioned there about to go forward,

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Speaker 3: Look I'm probably not the best person to speak on specifics,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that you touched on the Voices era, because

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Speaker 3: I don't nod ever was a proper reconciliation of that.

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Speaker 3: Because it felt like the Voice is part of what

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Speaker 2: If you've ever seen the headlines about a woman fearing

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Speaker 2: full through crime for this next story. Before we get

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Speaker 2: Christ of Latter day Saints, or the FLDS, is a

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Speaker 2: breakaway sect from mainstream Mormonism, infamous for its polygamy, child marriage,

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Speaker 2: was led by Warren Jeffs, who claimed to be a prophet.

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Speaker 2: If this all sounds vaguely familiar, you might have caught

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two Netflix doco Keep Sweet, Pray and Obey,

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Speaker 4: The pattern seemed to be that with a girl that

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Speaker 2: I will never forget when my mother called me and said, Becky,

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Speaker 2: prison in twenty twenty two. In it, Jeff's called on

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Speaker 2: The prophecy names twenty twenty five as the year of Translation,

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Speaker 2: For Elizabeth, the fear is raw and immediate. Last month,

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Speaker 2: be a link for further reading on the Mumma Mere website.

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