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Speaker 1: twenty seventh of March. I'm Holly Wayne Wright and you

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: The fact that we are still the number one podcast

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Speaker 3: after last Friday's episode, I think is really.

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Speaker 1: Something to something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. My name is Claire Stephens and.

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Speaker 1: I'm m Vernon and here is what has made our

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Speaker 1: agenda for today. It has been Celebrity Facelift Week on

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Speaker 1: social media and for those who celebrate, we have some

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Speaker 1: news about eyebrow hair positioning that might just.

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Speaker 5: In your life, plus a list of very specific and

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Speaker 5: silly questions to ask instead of the always boring how

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Speaker 5: are you and what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Warning there are going to be pigeons involved in these questions.

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Speaker 3: And our recommendations from a brand new season of a

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Speaker 3: very funny TV show to a wildly helpful blog post

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Speaker 3: to a conversation between two smart, funny women. But first,

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Speaker 3: the Washington Post is asking a question I've quietly been

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Speaker 3: asking myself for a while. Now, Are boomers the real

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Speaker 3: iPad babies?

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Speaker 1: Nailed it?

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Speaker 3: I saw that headline and I was like, thank God,

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Speaker 3: somebody's saying it out loud.

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Speaker 1: We can all go home now. Actually I shouldn't say that,

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Speaker 1: so I think they really are all going home At

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post, I think I'm sorry my media knowledge

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Speaker 1: came crashing in on me. What I meant was a

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Speaker 1: well crafted headlined friends absolutely speaking the truth.

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Speaker 3: If you have boomers in your life, you may have

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Speaker 3: noticed some interesting behaviors handing their phones to your todd life,

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Speaker 3: for example, blaring Facebook reels at full volume. Who even

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Speaker 3: knew Facebook had reels? I didn't until my mother and

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Speaker 3: mother in law blasphom non stop giving you advice that

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Speaker 3: clearly came from a TikTok, getting into fights in comment

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Speaker 3: sections with people who are probably bots, and then buying

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Speaker 3: things from ads on social media that turn out to

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Speaker 3: be scams and Stephen's specialty. But they're on their phones

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Speaker 3: and their iPads and they're smart TVs. My dad has

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Speaker 3: seen every episode of The Good Doctor. It's all he

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Speaker 3: talks about. I looked it up. There are one hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty six episodes, too many.

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Speaker 1: It's a good show.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good show.

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Speaker 3: He can link it to absolutely anything. The Washington Post

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Speaker 3: interviewed a twenty five year old man named Brendan Moriac

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Speaker 3: who said that while he is actively looking for ways

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Speaker 3: to spend less time on his devices, his parents use

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Speaker 3: his skyrocketed definitely swapped, he said, where my parents are

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Speaker 3: on their phone more than I'm on my phone.

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Speaker 1: Lookause that's not an accident. Because obviously young people don't

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Speaker 1: want to be doing the things that old people.

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Speaker 3: Are doing home, so this could actually be quite helpful

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Speaker 3: for society. But research shows that adults over sixty five

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Speaker 3: are spending twice as much time on YouTube as they

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Speaker 3: were two years ago, and YouTube is actually their platform

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Speaker 2: I like that, Like the gen Z's right it.

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Speaker 1: Look it's really interesting because I was reading this thing

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Speaker 1: this week that was saying that the boomers are going

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Speaker 1: so maybe say age care facilities and so on, with

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Speaker 1: their phones and their iPads. And that's a really good

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Speaker 1: thing because it's very isolating often and they can communicate

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Speaker 1: going wrong and all that kind of stuff. So there

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Speaker 1: the broad adoption of this technology in theory could make

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Speaker 1: old age less lonely and all that stuff, right, But

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Speaker 1: what we're dealing with is also a general of people

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Speaker 1: who don't understand that you don't always have to reply

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Speaker 1: that everything that cousin Colin posts on Facebook, when he

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Speaker 1: says that birds aren't real, Like, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: You don't have to get involved in all the rgibardi

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Speaker 1: verge was actually up for grabs or if it was theft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mum thinks everything is sent to her. Yes, Like,

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Speaker 3: so she goes through her Facebook finage that, oh, this

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Speaker 3: research that for older people, the use of technology can

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Speaker 3: be really good cognitively, Like if you think about, you know,

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Speaker 3: playing Sudoku, who was meant to be really good. Maybe

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Speaker 3: there's stuff you can be doing on device well, even.

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Speaker 5: Just staying in touch, Like I wish my nana could

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Speaker 5: text and make calls from like her iPhone.

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Speaker 2: She has an iPhone.

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Speaker 5: All it does is just stay on charge, and it's

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Speaker 5: us charging it just because so much happens in the

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Speaker 5: like have to tell her everything. And she's kind of

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Speaker 5: and she's like so personally.

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Speaker 2: Likes to be in the know. I had a great

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Speaker 2: aunt also.

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Speaker 1: Who's just imagining you, because I know how much she

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Speaker 1: liked to use chat GPT for difficult conversations. I'm just

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Speaker 1: imagining you getting your robot to put a little summary

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Speaker 1: of the week for Nana. Yeah, that's a good idea.

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Speaker 1: Can you summarize this family group chat so that I

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Speaker 1: can read Nana a TLD Oh my.

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Speaker 2: God, and then I'd have to print it out for

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Speaker 2: Nana to read it, which is what I do with

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Speaker 2: all my articles. I have to print them out for

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Speaker 5: But I had an aunt who was deaf, and she

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Speaker 5: started getting deaf and the older she got, and she

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Speaker 5: loved texting, but like on a Nokia phone and she

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Speaker 5: be times on the dinner table we're all chatting and

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Speaker 5: be like, how are you going, And she's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: She'll just like the message back and forth. It's so fun.

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Speaker 5: But what I find really interesting that I've noticed with

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Speaker 5: this is quite profound. They try to use technology, but

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Speaker 5: like in a way where it inserts with the life

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Speaker 5: that they've already been living beforehand. I had this aunt

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Speaker 5: was so mad that her husband kept putting the toilet

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Speaker 5: paper on the thing.

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Speaker 2: The wrong way.

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Speaker 5: And she's like, and every time I went there, I

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Speaker 5: would change it, and then he would go on barter

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Speaker 5: and change it. I'd go in the barroom and change

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Speaker 5: and you put the flag the platform down and then

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Speaker 5: she's like, and then I saw a photo on Facebook

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Speaker 5: toilet paper on? And she was like and it was

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Speaker 5: a sign from God.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm like the fact that she

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Speaker 1: got so much joy from that your phone was listening

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Speaker 1: to you. Now, I guess the thing, right, Maybe there's something.

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Speaker 1: You know how we've all become hyperabatically with kids that

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Speaker 1: phones and screens got a limit it. So we're like,

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Speaker 1: We're all trying to take our analog bags out and

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Speaker 1: three hours before bedtime. Well, this is like, you know

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Speaker 1: when you often hear people say, and I have been

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Speaker 1: known to say this when I am eighty, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to start smoking again, and I'm going to drink loads

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Speaker 1: of tequila and who knows, maybe I'm going to try

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Speaker 1: some drugs I've always wanted to try, but I was

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Speaker 1: a bit worried to do it. This is like that

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Speaker 1: I can have unfettered screen time use I can glue

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Speaker 1: my phone to my face because who cares, Yeah cares.

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Speaker 3: It's like you binge on that phone. You watch all

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Speaker 3: the tiktoks in the world, and you go crazy. We

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Speaker 3: don't mind, Yeah, just worry.

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Speaker 2: Just watch out for the scams because that is my inheritance.

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Speaker 2: I need that. I need that money.

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Speaker 3: It makes me deeply emotional, like your personal angle on

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Speaker 3: that is not let me protect.

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Speaker 1: Let's just make sure you're going to be okay. Friends

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Speaker 1: who saw Denise Richards flogging her facy on Instagram, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to try and make facy happen, as in thinking

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Speaker 1: about a facey, has so so had a facey anyway.

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Speaker 3: Shorthand we don't need to, we don't need to further

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Speaker 3: sanitize what a facelift is.

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Speaker 2: Claire already getting angry.

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Speaker 1: For those with lives, here's a little bit of info

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Speaker 1: about what happened this week in facelift news. Are we

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Speaker 1: all across her?

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Speaker 5: Denise Richards is, yeah, Harlie Sheen's ex wife.

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Speaker 2: She's stunning.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so she was in like the late nineties,

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Speaker 1: early noughties. She was the vision of what hotness was.

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Speaker 1: That's why she's in love. Actually as the you know,

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Speaker 1: the ultimate American cool girl who comes in with well

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Speaker 1: in the cowboy boots and stuff. She was a bond

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Speaker 1: girl as we used to call them in the old days.

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Speaker 3: She in Baywatch or did I dream now?

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't think she was in Baywatch? Was briefly

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Speaker 1: she was in Wild Things with Neve Campbell and those

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Speaker 3: And she still is.

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Speaker 1: She married Charlie Sheen. That's how yes about that? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Now she's fifty five. She's got nearly two million followers

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, so she's doing well on the old social media's.

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Speaker 1: She's fifty five, which is just a tiny bit older

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Speaker 1: than me. And in June last year she had a

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Speaker 1: facelift and now she's telling us all about it. We

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Speaker 1: know all about it because she collabed with her doctor,

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Speaker 1: which officially makes this some kind of spon con no

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Speaker 1: shade from me still waiting for my big Bunnings contract.

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Speaker 1: But she's telling us all about it, and she's posted

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Speaker 1: a classic side before and after picture. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to hear the caption? Yes, yes, a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the caption because it goes on a long time. It

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Speaker 1: was an incredible pleasure. This is her doctor talking, right.

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Speaker 1: It was an incredible pleasure and honor to be trusted

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Speaker 1: with her restoration and more importantly importantly, the preservation of

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Speaker 1: her character and beauty. I think maybe she's an.

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Speaker 3: Old church Yeah, yeah, she's not tre dat I.

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Speaker 1: Know, right. It's hard to describe it a paragraph the

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Speaker 1: type of surgery or procedures I do, because they are

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Speaker 1: so unique in so many ways. Blah blah, Sure they are.

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Speaker 1: There are things that the majority of surgeons in the

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Speaker 1: world would gloss over, such as the organization of the

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Speaker 1: eyebrow hair or the contour and shape of the forehead.

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Speaker 1: As we ate, so many little things change, like the

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Speaker 1: disarray of the eyebrow hair pattern. He's really fair.

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Speaker 2: He loves the eyebrows. He's like, no one else is

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Speaker 1: All the things that are happening in the world this week,

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Speaker 3: For beauty standards. Specifically, can we acknowledge the optics of

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Speaker 1: I don't A lot of people Claire were saying they

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Speaker 3: I do want her to gatekeep. I don't understand the

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Speaker 3: I find that really really distressing. And in terms of

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Speaker 1: Like I wasn't looking ten years.

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Speaker 1: there's nothing good about that in our culture, right, those

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Speaker 3: But I think it's worth acknowledging that, and I think

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Speaker 1: But my point to you is, what do you want

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Speaker 2: I don't want any of us to do.

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Speaker 1: But surely we've got to. I agree with you. But

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Speaker 1: We've got to work on ourselves. So I'm the same

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Speaker 5: struggling because I'm seeing sometimes what my friends are doing

438
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Speaker 5: to their faces, and I'm like, am I meant to

439
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Speaker 5: be doing that?

440
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Speaker 2: Should I not do that?

441
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Speaker 5: Should I make a stand and say I don't want

442
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Speaker 5: to do that even though I really want to do that?

443
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Speaker 5: And I think that's where it gets confusing.

444
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Speaker 3: I think the things that are worth celebrating are I think,

445
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Speaker 3: better representation of people who are aging, the way that

446
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Speaker 3: aging works.

447
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Speaker 2: I think, well, that's what I'm here for, Claire.

448
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Speaker 1: That's why I'm here with my face falling into the ocean. However,

449
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Speaker 1: I do have good news. Good falling into the ocean.

450
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Speaker 1: Anne hath Away has given us all an alternate to

451
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Speaker 1: the serious facelift. And today I'm trying you, mate, do

452
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Speaker 1: you think I look fresh? Is she put little plats

453
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Speaker 1: in your hair?

454
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Speaker 3: Have you seen this?

455
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Speaker 1: So she's tied back, tied back, so a Hathaway whoever

456
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Speaker 1: it keeps saying she's had a facelift. She in a

457
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Speaker 1: makeup partners were getting ready for you, os because would

458
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Speaker 1: have seen this with you. She's like, no face Well

459
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Speaker 1: she didn't actually say the words no face lift. She

460
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Speaker 1: was like, we just we've got a trick, haven't we.

461
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Speaker 1: And he goes, we do, and they put these little

462
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Speaker 1: plats in and they've tied them back it. I've tried

463
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Speaker 1: it today with my eye tape, which I put on

464
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Speaker 1: really badly. So I think today I definitely look like

465
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Speaker 1: Denise Richards and not a knife has gone near my face.

466
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Speaker 2: You look beautiful also, Charlie Xx's the same thing.

467
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: There you go. So I still need to embrace the plants.

468
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Speaker 3: And our normal aging faces.

469
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Speaker 5: Out louders in a moment, some strategically silly questions that

470
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Speaker 5: are about to change the way you have a conversation.

471
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Speaker 5: So you know when you want to start a conversation

472
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Speaker 5: or someone starting a conversation with you, and it's always like,

473
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Speaker 5: how are you going?

474
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Speaker 2: What are you up to? How are things? And it's

475
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Speaker 2: kind of like, ugh, iral a bit embarrassing, a bit cringe.

476
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Speaker 1: Or you don't know what to say. You don't know,

477
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Speaker 1: you know how life's often a bit complicated, and so

478
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Speaker 1: people say how are you and you just go fine, yeah.

479
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Speaker 3: And apparently an alternative that has been floating around is like,

480
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Speaker 3: what's keeping you busy these days? I can't possibly answer

481
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Speaker 3: that in an interesting way, do you know what I mean?

482
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Speaker 3: It's a dead end because what's keeping me busy is

483
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Speaker 3: freaking boring for me and boring for you.

484
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Speaker 5: Oh when we have that conversation about how you're not

485
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Speaker 5: meant to ask anyone what they do for work, You're

486
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Speaker 5: meant to say what excite you?

487
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know.

488
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Speaker 1: The Aaron Chenie over there, standing nearest to where the

489
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Speaker 1: food's coming out. That always excites me.

490
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Speaker 2: So lucky for us.

491
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Speaker 5: A sub second name, Sophia Carter wrote a post titled

492
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Speaker 5: twenty five silly Questions to ask Instead of wyd Holly,

493
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Speaker 5: that means what are you doing?

494
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Speaker 3: So glad he spelled it out for her.

495
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Speaker 1: I was worried I love you, but I.

496
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Speaker 3: Had to explain it to me.

497
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Speaker 1: I tape means that you understand Internet.

498
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Speaker 3: That's true. That's so true.

499
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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to read some of the questions out

500
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Speaker 5: for you as if we're all having an initial conversation.

501
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Speaker 5: So imagine we're all in the group chat and I

502
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Speaker 5: come into the group chat and I say, hey, guys,

503
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Speaker 5: so what color do you think each weekday?

504
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Speaker 4: Is?

505
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Speaker 1: I love that so much I would think you were

506
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Speaker 1: having a struck.

507
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Speaker 3: I love that and now but now I can't participate

508
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Speaker 3: in this segment because I'm trying to think.

509
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Speaker 1: Friday is red?

510
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Speaker 5: Yeah, really, yes, Monday's yeah, yeah, Sunday's yellow, Monday's.

511
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Speaker 3: Blue, Sunday Thursday green?

512
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Speaker 4: Moving.

513
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Speaker 2: Okay, do you have an inner voice?

514
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Speaker 1: And is it yours?

515
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: But again, this is the problem I think with different

516
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Speaker 3: personality types is that I guess extroverts would answer that

517
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Speaker 3: question straight away. As an introvert, I'm like, I'm gonna

518
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Speaker 3: need a minute. And that's not good competition.

519
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Speaker 1: It's quite a high degree of difficulty. You know how

520
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 1: every parent and every dog only you give your your

521
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Speaker 1: kid or your dog and in a voice yes, and

522
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Speaker 1: my dog who has the same voice as her previous dog, Elbie.

523
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Speaker 1: They have the same voice. They're just like their spirit

524
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Speaker 1: has continued possessed. That also is the same voice as

525
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Speaker 1: my small children had when they were babies and they

526
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Speaker 1: couldn't talk. So there's only one in a voice in

527
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Speaker 1: my house, and I think it also lives so.

528
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Speaker 2: Cute, Okay, my moother's one.

529
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Speaker 5: You can have any superpower, but it has to be

530
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Speaker 5: incredibly underwhelming.

531
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Speaker 1: It would it be oh wow, underwhelming, aren't they all great?

532
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Speaker 3: I would have the ability to pause time, but only

533
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Speaker 3: for five minutes, like because I'm always five minutes late.

534
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Speaker 2: That's smart.

535
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Speaker 3: So it's like I'm not asking for much. I like,

536
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Speaker 3: I'm just asking for five minutes.

537
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: But I've always said that the superpower I want is

538
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Speaker 1: to be invisible, not just like invisible in the as

539
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: previously discussed ages of sense. Invisible.

540
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Speaker 2: That's not underwhelming.

541
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Speaker 1: It would be if you could only be invisible for

542
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Speaker 1: three minutes at of time, because then you sneak into

543
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Speaker 1: somewhere in order to see what Ryan Gosling's eating for breakfast,

544
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Speaker 1: for example, and then you'd appear next right, It's like,

545
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Speaker 1: what are you doing?

546
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Speaker 2: Scary?

547
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Speaker 5: Mine would be only needing to go to the toilet.

548
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Speaker 5: When I see a toilet, yeah.

549
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Speaker 3: Wow, wow, you know, yes, I have. I think a

550
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Speaker 3: lot about how amazing my life would be if I

551
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Speaker 3: didn't need to sleep.

552
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Speaker 1: No, I gets so much done, you get bored. That's

553
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: so funny because you know how in Twilight the vampires

554
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: don't have to sleep. It's always the bit that stresses

555
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: me out the most. I'm like, you need to go

556
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: to bed? Gosh, when are you going to go to bed?

557
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 4: And to bed?

558
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: And they made it sound so romantic when he was like,

559
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Speaker 2: I was watching you sleep, and we're like, I'd read

560
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Speaker 2: all night.

561
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Speaker 5: Okay, which which kitchen utensil do you feel the most

562
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 5: connected to?

563
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: Fox?

564
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: Fox, Mine's a tongue. You can do so much with it,

565
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: like you can do so much with me.

566
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Speaker 1: She's versatile. You always want an arms reach.

567
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: Okay, coming up to the pigeons.

568
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 5: Now, how many pigeons would you have to see in

569
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Speaker 5: your house until you start to question if someone is

570
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Speaker 5: putting them in there?

571
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: Okay, it's three, it's three, three, one, one, there's a

572
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Speaker 3: window open. Two. A second pigeon has followed the first three.

573
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 3: Someone's trolling me.

574
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: That's too. I call it too. The rats of the sky.

575
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: They're not. If they're in my house, someone has put

576
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Speaker 1: a curse on me. They put a pigeon curse on me.

577
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: They're going to keep.

578
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 2: Appearing because you know how you can get homing pigeons.

579
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 5: So I wonder if like an underwhelming superpower could be

580
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: making someone else's home the pigeons phone.

581
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: Or what if a homing pigeon guy lived in your

582
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: house before You just kept turning up on your doorstairs

583
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Speaker 1: like I am home.

584
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Speaker 3: You like what you guys here all the time.

585
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Speaker 1: Then one day you come out of your house turned around,

586
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: the whole roof is just pigeon.

587
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, could you guys have watched the cartoon pigeon Boy?

588
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: Nope, that was.

589
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: Okay, he was a super power pitcheon.

590
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: I bet it was.

591
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: What time of day are you?

592
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: Eight pm?

593
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: Oh? No, really no, no, no, I love am well

594
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: so do I but I'm too tired.

595
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 5: They mine's twelve twenty one pm?

596
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: Okay, oh middle of the day. Interesting?

597
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: Shit? What time am I sting? I don't know. I

598
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: think you're like, this wouldn't be any good at a party,

599
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: would it? What time of day are you? Oh? She's

600
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: essential crisis for one question? Seven pm? Maybe I'm just

601
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more than you, just a little bit.

602
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 5: Oh I want to picture as an AM person.

603
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: No, I've become an AM person, But I don't think

604
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: my personality is an AM personality. Maybe it is. This

605
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: is going that way.

606
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 5: Another question, Okay, would you rather live the rest of

607
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 5: your life? And this comes into the conversation before, well,

608
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Speaker 5: the rest of your life as a sixteen year old

609
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 5: or a seventy year old?

610
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: Wow?

611
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: Seventy six? Oh wait? No, yeah, wow, that is really hard.

612
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, seventy for the wisdom, but sixteen for the like.

613
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: The thing about being that age is life just seems infinite.

614
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: The possibility is infinite. All the things you can do

615
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: are infinite, and that's very exciting.

616
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: See. I was thinking seventy because I was like, oh,

617
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: you'd get, you know, to spend time with your kids

618
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: and your grandkids and all that lovely. But then I

619
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: was like, but my parents might not be there, and

620
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: you know, so much grief by seventy. Oh this is hard.

621
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Speaker 1: Just gone to class sad and she's like, no, I

622
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: can only see the sun. But also, what that was

623
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: very telling about you is you went immediately to community

624
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: and connection, and I went immediately to I just want

625
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Speaker 1: to go party.

626
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: I was going to I was going to.

627
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Speaker 2: Say seventy because I want to retire.

628
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, you want to right.

629
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Speaker 1: I was always never have any money, you have to

630
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: go to school, ill I would I would leave school.

631
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Speaker 5: Well as someone who spent a lot of their twenties

632
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 5: being slow ghosted by men and tried really hard to

633
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 5: keep the conversation going, I'm really good at this.

634
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: Okay, got my own questions.

635
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 5: Okay, So if you're at an event and you have

636
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Speaker 5: to tell someone, if you had to choose one person

637
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: in this room at the.

638
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: Event, who would be your enemy, who would it be

639
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: and why.

640
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: I don't think anything bonds people more than a shared enemy.

641
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: I love questions about like who's your nemesis because it's

642
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: it acknowledges that it's like the issue is with me,

643
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: Like it's not with the nemesis.

644
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: It's like I have is do you have a nemesis?

645
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: Like in like hmmm, oh yeah, like once I've made

646
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: up in my head that are not like they have

647
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: done nothing but to me, there's like.

648
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: A narratives, a whole narrative.

649
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: Who would you pick in the room in our room

650
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Speaker 2: right now?

651
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, in our room. Right, that was obviously you. She's

652
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: an evil genius, but everybody knows that about her.

653
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: I'll take care that make.

654
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Speaker 5: Me feel were actually quite good on a playground?

655
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Speaker 2: Are you more of a slide person or a swings person?

656
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 5: Swings swings boring too much energy, but sometimes are like

657
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 5: quite fun and then you can push kids out.

658
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: Always says that swinging is the best, one of the

659
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: best physical sensations of all time, and we should put

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Speaker 1: older people on swings more often. Why should the kids

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Speaker 1: have all the fun?

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Speaker 3: Great? Okay?

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Speaker 5: My favorite question to ask if you were given one

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Speaker 5: million dollars but only one day to spend it, what

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Speaker 5: are you buying?

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Speaker 3: This is what I understanding about money. Can I buy

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Speaker 3: a house in one day?

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Speaker 1: Can you buy a house for a million dollars?

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Speaker 2: Apartment?

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Speaker 3: A million dollars would be the Oh no, no, I'd

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Speaker 3: be stuffing myself. I was going to say, could be

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Speaker 3: the deposit for a really big house, but then I'm like, no,

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Speaker 3: but I don't have any money. That's terrible.

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Speaker 1: We're too practical. What's my cot? It was the end

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Speaker 1: of that question. What would I buy?

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Speaker 2: What would you buy?

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Speaker 1: Travel tickets? It's immediately like and book hotel rooms one

678
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: hundred percent, like for me or my friends, my family,

679
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: Like I'd spend it on stuff that isn't going to

680
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: happen today, but I can buy it today, but like

681
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: where everywhere, and.

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00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: You have to like organize everyone to be like.

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Speaker 1: I can be organized with the deadline with a pressure

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00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: like that, are you joking? And then I'd go out

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Speaker 1: for an amazing meal and I'd drink really fancy champagne

686
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Speaker 1: that I've never even tasted in my life, like Crystal

687
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Speaker 1: do they even make that?

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00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: I don't want, have no idea I want that.

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Speaker 1: And I would buy one really good handbag.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: And obviously I would have to clear my throat and say,

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Speaker 1: are you lot some money to charity? Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: solve all the problems.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Well, I don't know what i'd buy.

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Speaker 3: I think i'd buy.

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Speaker 1: What's really confusing is a good conversation startup.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what million dollars. Actually, it looks like

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't know what costs a million dollars, like a.

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Speaker 5: Car, like two cars, rights on Tesla, babies, tens.

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Speaker 1: There's still a lot of money you can give add

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Speaker 1: on for the these days you could maybe buy two

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Speaker 1: tanks of petrol.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, buy petrol, buy all the petrol petrol. Then

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Speaker 3: you could sell it back to people. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: the whole business.

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Speaker 1: You've now turned into an evil gen Yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: Claus Stevens. Have you got one?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So my go to is and I do this

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Speaker 3: in social situations where it's like there needed to be

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00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: more of a warm up. But do you have a

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Speaker 3: ghost story? And then if they're like no, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: what about just a haunting?

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Speaker 1: That's actually it's actually a really really good question because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people do every now and.

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Speaker 3: Then someone will be like, oh yeah, like once, like

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Speaker 3: a painting just fell down in my hand, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: that's a good story. Yeah, don't undersell your.

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Speaker 1: That's actually a really good question because people might say, no,

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Speaker 1: are you're crazy? I don't believe in that stuff, and

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00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: then you've got a conversation happening too. But if they

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Speaker 1: have got a story, thenfully you know where everyone will

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Speaker 1: be going.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's like, shut up, shut up.

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Speaker 1: Those stories are like a fire everybody just exactly.

726
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: And the other one is what conspiracy do you actually believe?

727
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: And why birds aren't real?

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00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 3: Okay, hollies in a weird place today about birds.

729
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Speaker 5: So all the pigeons in your house, you're just ignoring them,

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Speaker 5: You're like, you're not realm.

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Speaker 1: That was very helpful, I believe. Please carry that into

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Speaker 1: your weekend out loudest and tell us yours some unhinged,

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Speaker 1: unhinged conversation starters.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with your next conversation.

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Speaker 3: After the break, A TV show, a conversation, and a

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Speaker 3: blog post I've thought about for almost three years. Our recommendations.

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Speaker 1: Vibes, ideas, atmosphere, something casual, something fun.

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Speaker 3: This is my best recommendation. It's Friday, so we want

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Speaker 3: to help set up your weekend with our best recommendations.

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Speaker 3: Holy you go first.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm recommending a podcast, but actually I'm mostly

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Speaker 1: recommending one minute of a podcast because I was listening

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00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: to Good Hang with Amy Pohler, which I listened to

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00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: quite often, even though she did win the Golden Globe

745
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: for Best Podcast. And we all know that we should

746
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: have won the Golden Globe for Best Podcast. True, and

747
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: then I could have sat next to Timothy as a

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00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: seat filler and everything would have been great.

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Speaker 3: Got to keep across the competition exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Anyway, I was listening to Good Hang with Amy

751
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Speaker 1: Poler and I listened to her conversation with Viola Davis.

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00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: I think we're all across who Viola Davis is. She

753
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: is one of the great actresses of her generation. She's

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00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: Meryl streep favorite actress. She's been in loads of things,

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00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: How to Get Away with Murders, She's been nominated for

756
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: four different Oscars. She's Meryl Street's favorite actress. She was

757
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: in The Hunger Game, She's in The Woman King. She's

758
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: like she's a legend right Anyway. At the beginning of

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Speaker 1: Amy Pohler's podcast, she or she starts every interview by

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Speaker 1: calling someone who's close to the person she's interviewing today

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00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: and asking them to, as she calls it, talk well

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00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: behind their back, so say something lovely about them. What

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Speaker 1: I like the show, and probably why lest even takes

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00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: this show. The difference is in her personality.

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Speaker 3: I'm into podcasts where I just loll yeah.

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00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 5: It's such a feel good What would be who would

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Speaker 5: be your person that you wouldn't want any polit to call.

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Speaker 3: I think Brent would say lovely things.

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Speaker 1: I reckon, yes, but I also reckon Jesse Stevens would

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Speaker 1: be quite good, because she'd like, she'd go in with

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Speaker 1: a bit of a like yeah, she's point, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to say nice things. You would do obviously,

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Speaker 1: as Jesse's.

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Speaker 3: You would also do.

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Speaker 1: Any of you guys would be great and you think

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00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: so much would nice about me? Doesn't really Anyway, they

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Speaker 1: call Viola's husband, and actually it's the first time they've

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00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: ever done that. Usually sometimes it's a bit transparent. It'll

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Speaker 1: be like the director of the movie you just made

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Speaker 1: or whatever. But her husband's a guy called Julius and

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00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: they've been married for a really long time. They were

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Speaker 1: both struggling actors and they both had small parts on

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Speaker 1: a TV show called City of Angels and that's where

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Speaker 1: they met. And since then, obviously her career has gone

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Speaker 1: home and he's her producing partner and stuff. But he

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Speaker 1: never became like a big actor. And Amy Pohler kind

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Speaker 1: of asks him about that, and he has the most

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Speaker 1: excellent answer here.

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Speaker 4: It is, do you know, Amy, is about supporting one

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Speaker 4: another one the other one supports the other equally, and

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Speaker 4: that's what we did. We just went about kind of

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Speaker 4: loving on each other and being happy for one another

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Speaker 4: with whatever dropped, whatever happened, and so uh just so

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Speaker 4: happened that Vio's courage just really started to take off,

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Speaker 4: and it's been a beautiful thing and I'm glad to

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Speaker 4: be a part of it. People, So how do you

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Speaker 4: handle it?

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Speaker 1: How do you do what you do?

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Speaker 4: Whatever I said, because I know who I am a man,

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Speaker 4: It starts with you knowing who you are. I don't

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Speaker 4: care how powerful your woman is or what she's doing.

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00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 4: If your woman knows that you can handle yourself and

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Speaker 4: that you know who you are, then she's gonna go, well, hey,

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Speaker 4: my guy's good. And so that's the way. Viola and

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Speaker 4: I have roles. So it's about me supporting her and

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00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: vice versa. So it's just been easy for us.

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Speaker 3: Ah Julius. Everyone listening right now is just going.

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Speaker 1: And I was. I was driving my cargoing because it

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Speaker 1: was the week when we've just been watching the Manisphere

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Speaker 1: doco and all these conversations about masculinity, and those guys

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Speaker 1: could never their teeny weeny little insecure masculinity could never

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Speaker 1: handle that. They could never handle the idea that I

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Speaker 1: am a powerful person who knows who I am, and

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Speaker 1: you can go and do powerful things in the world

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't diminish me, and it just made me

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Speaker 1: so happy. And the whole rest of that conversation was excellent.

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Speaker 1: When actually Viola comes on and she talks about their

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Speaker 1: marriage a lot. She talks about that they're obviously very connected.

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Speaker 1: She talks about ambition and she's a classically trained actress

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Speaker 1: and she's done all these things, and she talks about

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Speaker 1: that and then how that was challenging as a woman

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Speaker 1: of color. And then she talks about love scenes and

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Speaker 1: how she only does them now if she's allowed to

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Speaker 1: have a love partner who has a belly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because she's like, she's like, if he has a belly,

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Speaker 3: you've had to write a story. It's not just kind

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Speaker 3: of gratuitous. Yeah, sex scene.

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Speaker 1: It's a really way of putting that, because she's kind

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Speaker 1: of like you should. Through her career, they'd be like

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Speaker 1: and this is the bit where you get naked, and

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Speaker 1: she's always like why they're like because and so now

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Speaker 1: that she's powerful and she gets to make the man,

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00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: she says, we're only doing love scenes if the guy

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Speaker 1: has a belly and I look ordinary, and we're just

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Speaker 1: it's it's something more than just let's all watch everybody

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00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: with Naked She's so good and I love that sentiment.

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Speaker 1: And so my recommendation is a that podcast, but b

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Speaker 1: get yourself a partner like Julius. Oh, he's happy for

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00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: your successes. And there's not a Manisphere influence.

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Speaker 3: It's a great reco.

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Speaker 5: My recommendation is a TV show, Season two of a

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00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 5: TV show that has been out since twenty three.

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Speaker 2: It's called Deadlock.

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Speaker 3: Have you guys stored season one?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: My god?

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00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: Season one is amazing. So season two has just come

848
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 5: out on prime video. I binged all eight episodes in

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Speaker 5: two days.

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Speaker 1: You are amazing in your volume consumption. I'm watching your

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Speaker 1: last TV reco, which is How to Get to Heaven

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00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: from Belfast, which is brilliant. Your recos are spotting, But

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00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: it's taking me weeks and you've watched four other shows

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00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: in that time. Yeah. I watch a lot of TV.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, movies, Thank god, it's part of my

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00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: So is it like a sort of satirical murder mystery Deadlock?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's like a black comedy crime mystery. So if

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Speaker 5: you haven't watched season one, you are very lucky because

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00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 5: now you have two full seasons to watch. But it's

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Speaker 5: about these two detectives who are complete polar opposite, Dulcy

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Speaker 5: and Eddie, coming together to solve a crime. There's a

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Speaker 5: season one where a man's body washes up on a

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Speaker 5: beach and they have to kind of solve They figure

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Speaker 5: out it's like a serial murder case.

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Speaker 2: They're solving that. Season two.

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Speaker 5: Season one was filmed in Tasmania in the fictional channel

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Speaker 5: of Deadlock. Season two is set in Darwin and there's

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Speaker 5: like a lot of crocodiles involved. It's like a lot

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00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 5: of like big like bogan families. It's so much fun.

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Speaker 5: It is so bloody funny. Every episode I was cry laughing.

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Speaker 5: But it's also filled with all of these kind of

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00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: plot twists, and it's different to normal crime plot tists

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00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 5: where you know a plot twist is coming and you

874
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 5: try to guess it. They just like hit you with

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00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 5: them like left, right, tennor every single episode.

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Speaker 3: I remember thinking with season one, laughing out loud and

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Speaker 3: thinking there's no way they're going, like it's so funny,

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Speaker 3: there's no way they're going to be able to also

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Speaker 3: pull off a crime season arc, like you can't do both,

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Speaker 3: and they did, Like it stands alone as like a

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Speaker 3: like a broad Church, but then it's laugh out loud funny.

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Speaker 2: I felt and loved it.

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Speaker 5: Season two is as good as season one, which I

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Speaker 5: feel like is very rare but so well done.

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Speaker 2: So that is deadlock Out on Prime Video now.

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Speaker 3: My reco Is is a blog that I've been reading

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Speaker 3: for literally a decade. It's by author an illustrator, Tim Urban,

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Speaker 3: and you might have stumbled across one of his articles

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Speaker 3: at one point. Some of the very viral ones are

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Speaker 3: There's one called why I'm Always Late, and it's just broken,

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Speaker 3: like it just breaks it down and it's so clever

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Speaker 3: and it's got little cartoons, the procrastination Matrix. There's another

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Speaker 3: one called Cloiness A weird kind of sad, and it's

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Speaker 3: about this sadness you feel for other people and it's

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Speaker 3: just it's this emotion I've I've never quite been able

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Speaker 3: to label so excellent writer. But he published a blog

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three and it was just before Jesse

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Speaker 3: had her first baby and about six months before I

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Speaker 3: had mine, and it's called ten Thoughts from the Fourth

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Speaker 3: Trimester and I send it to everyone I know with

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Speaker 3: a newborn. And I was reminded of it recently because

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Speaker 3: I always go back to it when when I'm around

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Speaker 3: newborns and with Jesse's little babies, I've been thinking about it.

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Speaker 3: And basically he shares ten thoughts from the first three

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Speaker 3: months of having a baby, and it's so clear there's

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Speaker 3: this image that I think about all the time. He's like,

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Speaker 3: your expectation is that you have a fetus and then

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Speaker 3: you give birth and then you have a baby. And

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Speaker 3: he's like, but that's not what happens. You have a fetus,

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Speaker 3: you give birth, you have a fetus but on the outside,

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Speaker 3: and then you have like this fetus kind of creature

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Speaker 3: that's like kind of changing, and then it's a baby

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Speaker 3: after three months. And there's a lot that he says

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Speaker 3: that very subtly gives you permission for some of the

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Speaker 3: crazy emotions that you might be feeling. He's got one

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Speaker 3: line where he says, for me, at least, it seems

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Speaker 3: like a parent is something you slowly turn into as

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Speaker 3: your first baby slowly turns into a person. And I

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Speaker 3: think it kind of just I remember feeling.

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Speaker 1: It's true, it's a slow it's a slower process than

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Speaker 1: you might imagine.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I remember thinking, why don't I have all

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Speaker 3: the instinctive. You know, why don't I feel like a mom?

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like a parent, And he's like, of course,

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Speaker 3: you don't feel like a parent.

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Speaker 1: It's just happened.

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Speaker 3: You've got a goblin at home and it's not it's

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Speaker 3: a fetus. Like so I send it to everyone I

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Speaker 3: know who's had a baby, and it's funny, but it's also,

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Speaker 3: I think, very emotionally intelligence. So we'll put a link

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Speaker 3: in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: That has been another slightly unhinged, wandering all over the

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Speaker 1: place Friday show out louders.

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Speaker 2: I hope you all enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 1: Did you?

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much?

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it as a listener myself, did you?

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Speaker 2: That was a great episode?

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you and thank you to our amazing team,

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Speaker 1: who would like to name them all.

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Speaker 3: I will a big thank you to group executive producer

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Speaker 3: Ruth Devine, executive producer Sasha Tanic, our senior audio producer

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Speaker 3: Isleah Porge'es, our video producer is Josh Green, and our

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Speaker 3: junior content producer is Tessa Kodovich.

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Speaker 5: Acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we

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Speaker 5: have recorded this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hie By