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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on from Mama Mia. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to this Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura

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Speaker 2: Brodnick and I'm Cassena Kitch and coming up on the

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Speaker 2: show today, my two favorite things, space and entertainment have collided.

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Speaker 2: The all female Space crew has come back from their

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Speaker 2: eleven minute mission. Katie Perry has become a meme. Some

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Speaker 2: other celebrities have spoken out they're very angry about the

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Speaker 2: woman going to space. We're going to get into all that,

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Speaker 2: plus the evolution of our favorite pop girli Addison Ray.

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Speaker 1: She has had a serious like skyrocketed, Yeah, absolutely skyrocketed.

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Speaker 1: So we have some great news on her. And then

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Speaker 1: we've got some trailers to talk about today.

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Speaker 2: It's too exciting you to I love a good trailer,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's hype you up a little bit. It's like,

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Speaker 2: just give you a little taste. There's like actual cinemas

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Speaker 2: in the US you can go in and just watch

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Speaker 2: two hours of trailers, which I've never done, but I

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Speaker 2: might be kind of into it. It'd be very like

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Speaker 2: a sensory overload experience.

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Speaker 1: That seems kind of pointless to me.

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Speaker 2: So it's because trailers are kind of an art form,

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Speaker 2: and I guess as people get more into only watching TikTok,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's all they can take. Okay, so you've got

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Speaker 2: a trailer that you need to tell us about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we're going to start off with another simple favor. Emily,

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Speaker 1: how are you here?

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Speaker 2: I'm getting married? We be my maid of honor? That

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Speaker 2: I mentioned it was in Capri.

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Speaker 1: Capri, Yes, she is in. We're all in.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, simple favor. Massive cult hit directed by Paul fig

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Speaker 1: Blake Lively, and Anna Kendrick. And you know we have

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Speaker 1: spoken about this on the Spill a lot. Blake Lively

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Speaker 1: has had a lot of airtime on this pod over

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Speaker 1: the last few months. But the trailer has been released.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't watched the first movie, then you probably

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Speaker 1: should do that before you say this.

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Speaker 2: Well, you should watch it because it's an excellent movie.

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Speaker 2: It's so camp, it's so silly, the clothes are amazing.

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Speaker 2: So Anna Kendrick plays a mum blogger who's a widow

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Speaker 2: The other parents at school don't like her, and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, the very glamorous Emily Nelson played by

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Speaker 2: she's very mysterious and the two women make friends, and

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Speaker 2: then when she goes missing, Anna Kendrick's character has to

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Speaker 2: this kind of like murder mystery crime. But also bloggers,

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Speaker 2: it's just it's so good and they just like they

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Speaker 2: can tell it's kind of silly, but they play it

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Speaker 2: so straight that it's just like it's such a watchable movie.

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Speaker 1: And so this second movie has been really hyped up,

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Speaker 1: you know, We've a lot of people have really been

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Speaker 1: wanting it. So the plot for this go and have

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Speaker 2: Maid of honor because she's messing with her.

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Speaker 1: So and obviously, given the end of the movie, there

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Speaker 1: and and I don't really like each other in real life.

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Speaker 1: Kind of plays really well into this because it feels

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really good promo. I think they do because,

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Speaker 2: probably more so Anna Kendrick than Blake Lively. But to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it looks great. I mean I always

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Speaker 2: Easily one of my favorite directors. We've had him on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and very very talented and immaculately dressed. So if

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Speaker 1: you guys want to watch this, Another simple Favor will

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for that. Another trailer that came out today

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Speaker 2: coming to Binge on May eight. So Strife is based

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Speaker 2: on Miya Friedman's memoir work Strife Balance, and it's a

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Speaker 2: but it does pull a lot, obviously from the origin

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Speaker 2: story of Mamma Mia and also stories that have happened

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Speaker 2: in the office over the years, which.

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Speaker 1: There's been cameras around here. So I don't know what your.

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Speaker 2: Job is basically the Office Diva. So the first season

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Speaker 2: which is so funny because one of the first promo

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Speaker 2: images that came out of Ashaketty as Evelyn shows her

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Speaker 2: recording a podcast with all the blankets around her and

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Speaker 2: how podcasting started everywhere but at Mama Mea, and also

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Speaker 2: how a lot of us recorded all of our podcasts

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Speaker 1: Okay, but if you don't, if you've never done any

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Speaker 1: sort of audio stuff before, the reason that you have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, very accurate.

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Speaker 2: It's some one of the most accurate things I've ever

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Speaker 2: We love that. So it's bringing all the original casts back,

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Speaker 2: and Alcott. And yes, the first trailer is out now,

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Speaker 2: so pop that up on the Spill Instagram if you

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Speaker 2: want to take a look. And the season will be

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Speaker 1: And also produce by brunapap Andrea, which is you know,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know, one of our most incredible producer

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Speaker 1: exports Big Little Lies, works very closely with Reese Witherspoon,

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Speaker 1: So you know that it's going to be good.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is what we're going to do.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go back to the office and pretend everything's fine,

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Speaker 2: So we have it on news coming out of Coachella.

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Speaker 2: So we've just had the first weekend, and on Monday's episode,

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Speaker 2: talking about Kylie Jenner and Timothy Chalomey like passionately kissing

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Speaker 1: Look well done, girl, well done, the right way to

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Speaker 2: Write that down every time you to remember that. Just

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Speaker 2: imagine the etherel dress partying to show the badazzle underwear

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Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated by Addison Ray's sort of rise to fame,

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Speaker 1: She did that nice. She sang, what a wonderful I

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Speaker 4: Because we'd been asking her to sing all the time

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Speaker 1: I actually quite liked that she sung what a wonderful world.

429
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Speaker 1: I think that's a.

430
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Speaker 2: Nice way she planned that you can just see her

431
00:20:09,384 --> 00:20:10,264
Speaker 2: like in her she did.

432
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Speaker 1: But that I think is that's really nice. I appreciate that.

433
00:20:14,704 --> 00:20:17,424
Speaker 2: I think is stage mapped out her space time, which

434
00:20:17,504 --> 00:20:19,584
Speaker 2: means she got the most headlines, so that's important. She

435
00:20:19,664 --> 00:20:21,864
Speaker 2: stage mapped out when she dropped the setlist, when she'd

436
00:20:21,904 --> 00:20:24,904
Speaker 2: hold the daisy up, when she'd sing as they plummeted

437
00:20:24,944 --> 00:20:26,904
Speaker 2: back to earth, like the woman's a performer, do.

438
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Speaker 1: You know what? I also really wanted to mention, So

439
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Speaker 1: Gail King, obviously Oprah's best buddy. Oprah was saying that

440
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Speaker 1: Gail King is terrified of flying, like really really scared

441
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Speaker 1: of flying, Like anytime there's turbulence on a plane, She's

442
00:20:38,744 --> 00:20:42,744
Speaker 1: like gripping the stage fair So that's actually an amazing

443
00:20:42,784 --> 00:20:46,664
Speaker 1: act of bravery to go even further and do something

444
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Speaker 1: like that when you are deathly afraid of flying.

445
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Speaker 2: Yes, she looked terrified getting on, like she looked like

446
00:20:53,664 --> 00:20:55,864
Speaker 2: she was regarding all of her life choices. And yeah,

447
00:20:55,864 --> 00:20:57,944
Speaker 2: I loved how they kept flicking to the in all

448
00:20:57,984 --> 00:20:59,984
Speaker 2: the coverage, they were flicking to the people like the

449
00:21:00,024 --> 00:21:01,944
Speaker 2: family members and the loved ones who were waiting on

450
00:21:02,024 --> 00:21:04,864
Speaker 2: the ground, And so you had like get Katie Perry's daughter,

451
00:21:04,944 --> 00:21:07,664
Speaker 2: Daisy Dove was there. Oprah was there, and she was

452
00:21:07,744 --> 00:21:09,624
Speaker 2: crying for Gail. I think she was crying because she

453
00:21:09,664 --> 00:21:12,184
Speaker 2: was proud of her, cute because they're besties, but also

454
00:21:12,224 --> 00:21:15,144
Speaker 2: crying because she was worried for her. And then Christianna

455
00:21:15,224 --> 00:21:18,184
Speaker 2: and Chloe Kardashian were there, which I saw some headlines

456
00:21:18,224 --> 00:21:19,704
Speaker 2: being like, oh, they're just trying to get in on it,

457
00:21:19,744 --> 00:21:22,024
Speaker 2: But it's because Lauren Sanchez, who's on the flight, is

458
00:21:22,064 --> 00:21:24,104
Speaker 2: a super close friend of their, so they were there

459
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Speaker 2: to cheer her on. But the no Kardashians in space yet.

460
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Speaker 1: No, And I don't think we need to say anything

461
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Speaker 1: about the Kardashians in space. I'm sure there's lots of comments.

462
00:21:33,984 --> 00:21:35,744
Speaker 2: He's in twenty five of the Kardashians.

463
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Speaker 1: We'll be able to make that, but you know, I

464
00:21:38,144 --> 00:21:40,664
Speaker 1: do think it also raises a really interesting question about

465
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Speaker 1: this like space tourism thing. So Blue Origin. They didn't

466
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Speaker 1: say how much this flight as actually costs. It obviously

467
00:21:48,424 --> 00:21:50,624
Speaker 1: is going to cost a lot of money, but there

468
00:21:50,624 --> 00:21:54,304
Speaker 1: have been some criticisms of this. So em Radakowski was

469
00:21:54,704 --> 00:21:57,704
Speaker 1: not happy about this space flight. She had a lot

470
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Speaker 1: to say.

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Speaker 5: That's space mission this morning, that's end time shit like

472
00:22:01,744 --> 00:22:04,104
Speaker 5: this is beyond you care about mother Earth and it's

473
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Speaker 5: about Mother Earth, and you're going up in a spaceship

474
00:22:07,184 --> 00:22:10,104
Speaker 5: that is built and paid for by a company that's

475
00:22:10,424 --> 00:22:13,184
Speaker 5: single handedly destroying the planet. At the state of the world,

476
00:22:13,224 --> 00:22:16,544
Speaker 5: and think about how many resources went into putting these

477
00:22:16,544 --> 00:22:19,824
Speaker 5: women into space for what for what was the marketing there?

478
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Speaker 5: And then to try to make it like I'm disgusted, literally, I'm.

479
00:22:23,464 --> 00:22:26,264
Speaker 1: Disgusted, And I kind of get her point. I understand

480
00:22:26,344 --> 00:22:28,584
Speaker 1: what she's saying, Like do we need to be spending

481
00:22:28,624 --> 00:22:31,824
Speaker 1: these I would say millions of dollars to do this?

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when it doesn't. I mean that's the thing. When

483
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Speaker 2: I was as the lead up to this was happening

484
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Speaker 2: and I saw some people getting quite angry about it,

485
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Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking if it was something that

486
00:22:40,024 --> 00:22:43,304
Speaker 2: deserved the amount of rage, and part of me thinks, like, yes,

487
00:22:43,384 --> 00:22:46,264
Speaker 2: like it is. It does feel so crazily tone death

488
00:22:46,624 --> 00:22:50,344
Speaker 2: to kind of wrap this experience so that these super

489
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Speaker 2: wealthy people are getting to wrap that up in empowerment

490
00:22:53,984 --> 00:22:56,984
Speaker 2: and a step forward for women, because like the women

491
00:22:56,984 --> 00:22:59,504
Speaker 2: on the ground, who are you know, don't have you know,

492
00:22:59,904 --> 00:23:02,264
Speaker 2: autonomy over their bodies and don't have health care and

493
00:23:02,304 --> 00:23:04,744
Speaker 2: in like desperate situations. And I know one of the

494
00:23:04,784 --> 00:23:06,904
Speaker 2: women did say this is for the survivors when she

495
00:23:06,944 --> 00:23:09,504
Speaker 2: was up there, because she advocates for survivors, and I

496
00:23:09,584 --> 00:23:11,344
Speaker 2: understand they're late to it, but I was like, oh,

497
00:23:11,384 --> 00:23:14,744
Speaker 2: this doesn't help, This doesn't help women, Like this is

498
00:23:14,784 --> 00:23:16,064
Speaker 2: for you, and it's okay to do it for you

499
00:23:16,064 --> 00:23:18,504
Speaker 2: as a selfish kind of thing. That's totally fine. But

500
00:23:18,544 --> 00:23:21,544
Speaker 2: then I think it was more like this huge expense

501
00:23:21,624 --> 00:23:24,264
Speaker 2: of money for entertainment value, and I think, like, how

502
00:23:24,344 --> 00:23:27,184
Speaker 2: is it any different to like the expenses of like

503
00:23:27,224 --> 00:23:29,664
Speaker 2: the Metgala red carpet, and you know, we get so

504
00:23:29,784 --> 00:23:32,744
Speaker 2: much like joy and content out of that, Like this

505
00:23:32,904 --> 00:23:36,624
Speaker 2: is just another kind of way of celebrities using their

506
00:23:36,664 --> 00:23:37,464
Speaker 2: wealth to entertain.

507
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Speaker 1: But I think it's also you know, you're looking at

508
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Speaker 1: someone like Sunny Williams who was stuck in space for

509
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Speaker 1: you know, nine months, when she was supposed to be

510
00:23:46,064 --> 00:23:49,024
Speaker 1: up there for I don't know, a week or something,

511
00:23:49,664 --> 00:23:52,744
Speaker 1: and the amount of press that got versus the amount

512
00:23:52,744 --> 00:23:56,224
Speaker 1: of press that this particular incident got, so it's just

513
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Speaker 1: kind of it does sort of shed light on the

514
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Speaker 1: fact that a real astronaut who actually is an incredibly

515
00:24:05,184 --> 00:24:08,624
Speaker 1: intelligent woman who was up in space. She spent nine

516
00:24:08,624 --> 00:24:11,704
Speaker 1: months up there. She's you know, I worked very very

517
00:24:11,704 --> 00:24:14,384
Speaker 1: hard for this. They barely got I mean they got

518
00:24:14,784 --> 00:24:18,544
Speaker 1: media attention obviously, but you know, ten minutes in space

519
00:24:18,584 --> 00:24:22,424
Speaker 1: from Katie Perry and here we are chatting about it.

520
00:24:22,464 --> 00:24:25,184
Speaker 1: But it's and I mean, like, if you could, would

521
00:24:25,264 --> 00:24:26,304
Speaker 1: you go up in space?

522
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Speaker 2: I'd let a few more Katie Perrries test it out first,

523
00:24:31,064 --> 00:24:33,384
Speaker 2: just to make sure it was okay. Like when I

524
00:24:33,384 --> 00:24:35,104
Speaker 2: did see the rocket God, I was like, we'll just

525
00:24:35,104 --> 00:24:37,864
Speaker 2: see how this goes, maybe in a few years, because

526
00:24:37,904 --> 00:24:40,864
Speaker 2: eventually it will become one of those things where it's

527
00:24:40,984 --> 00:24:42,984
Speaker 2: just like how people do, like trips over and targer

528
00:24:42,984 --> 00:24:44,704
Speaker 2: on a plane now and that sort of stuff.

529
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Speaker 1: When you're going to see the Titanic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'd rather go to space than go and

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Speaker 2: see the Titanic.

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Speaker 1: I think I would. I think I would. I think

533
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Speaker 1: I would find that really amazing to maybe.

534
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Speaker 2: See booked on the next one we can announce like

535
00:24:56,784 --> 00:24:58,184
Speaker 2: the podcast upcoming episodes.

536
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Speaker 1: No one's around space, no one cares.

537
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Speaker 2: What I also thought was interesting leaning up to this

538
00:25:03,744 --> 00:25:05,504
Speaker 2: is like along with em Rata. There were quite a

539
00:25:05,544 --> 00:25:08,984
Speaker 2: few other celebrities, mostly women, all kind of speaking out

540
00:25:09,024 --> 00:25:12,184
Speaker 2: negatively about it, which I thought was interesting because they're

541
00:25:12,224 --> 00:25:13,824
Speaker 2: all looking at it from like I guess the kind

542
00:25:13,824 --> 00:25:16,024
Speaker 2: of same blendses us, but also coming at it from

543
00:25:16,064 --> 00:25:19,024
Speaker 2: being other famous women. So Olivia Munn went on the

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00:25:19,104 --> 00:25:21,784
Speaker 2: Today with gener and Friends podcast and she said, I

545
00:25:21,824 --> 00:25:23,984
Speaker 2: know this probably isn't the cool thing to say, but

546
00:25:24,024 --> 00:25:26,104
Speaker 2: there are so many other things that are so important

547
00:25:26,104 --> 00:25:29,064
Speaker 2: in the world right now. Space exploration was to further

548
00:25:29,104 --> 00:25:31,544
Speaker 2: our knowledge and to help mankind and what are you

549
00:25:31,544 --> 00:25:33,104
Speaker 2: going to do up there that has made it better

550
00:25:33,144 --> 00:25:35,464
Speaker 2: for us down here? Which I think is a fair point.

551
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Speaker 2: And then she went on to say, I know this

552
00:25:37,544 --> 00:25:40,064
Speaker 2: is probably obnoxious, but like it's so much money to

553
00:25:40,064 --> 00:25:42,264
Speaker 2: go to space. That's a real comment, Olivia Mine. I

554
00:25:42,304 --> 00:25:44,384
Speaker 2: support you on that, and there's a lot of people

555
00:25:44,384 --> 00:25:46,704
Speaker 2: who can't even afford eggs. And then she said the

556
00:25:46,744 --> 00:25:49,704
Speaker 2: trip felt gluttnss. Now she just brought eggs into it,

557
00:25:50,424 --> 00:25:52,304
Speaker 2: like not even a joke, Like it is, eggs are

558
00:25:52,304 --> 00:25:53,504
Speaker 2: super expensive and they're hard to get.

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Speaker 1: You've got to go first thing in the morning, you

560
00:25:56,104 --> 00:25:58,064
Speaker 1: have to go to this special place and then if

561
00:25:58,064 --> 00:25:59,664
Speaker 1: you go on the afternoon, You're not going to get

562
00:25:59,704 --> 00:26:03,384
Speaker 1: your dozen eggs. That's just the fact. No, But I

563
00:26:03,424 --> 00:26:05,784
Speaker 1: and I understand that, and I think that it's really

564
00:26:05,864 --> 00:26:08,824
Speaker 1: really difficult for people when we are struggling with cost

565
00:26:08,904 --> 00:26:13,504
Speaker 1: of living. Things are really tenuous at the moments, particularly

566
00:26:13,504 --> 00:26:17,064
Speaker 1: politically in the United States, and I think people think

567
00:26:17,144 --> 00:26:19,504
Speaker 1: that the only thing that you can focus on is

568
00:26:19,584 --> 00:26:23,024
Speaker 1: that there is space. And I've said this many times before,

569
00:26:23,104 --> 00:26:29,904
Speaker 1: but there is space for joy and laughter and enjoyment

570
00:26:30,704 --> 00:26:35,584
Speaker 1: in a world, even when it is dire circumstances.

571
00:26:35,864 --> 00:26:37,784
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That kind of like you can make a

572
00:26:37,824 --> 00:26:40,184
Speaker 2: serious comment but see the funny side, which also is

573
00:26:40,264 --> 00:26:42,824
Speaker 2: kind of what Olivia Wilde did, the other famous person

574
00:26:42,824 --> 00:26:45,064
Speaker 2: who was calling out the trip, because she shared a

575
00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:48,144
Speaker 2: whole bunch of memes about the space trip to her

576
00:26:48,144 --> 00:26:50,904
Speaker 2: Instagram stories, and one of the main ones was that

577
00:26:50,984 --> 00:26:53,464
Speaker 2: photo which I think will go down history of Katie

578
00:26:53,464 --> 00:26:56,384
Speaker 2: Perry kissing the ground after she got back from her

579
00:26:56,464 --> 00:26:59,784
Speaker 2: eleven minute trip to space. And the image was accompanied

580
00:26:59,784 --> 00:27:02,744
Speaker 2: by the words getting off a commercial flight in twenty

581
00:27:02,784 --> 00:27:06,544
Speaker 2: twenty five, hashtag blue origin and that was the and

582
00:27:06,584 --> 00:27:09,264
Speaker 2: that was in reference to a lot of the aerial

583
00:27:09,304 --> 00:27:11,864
Speaker 2: disasters that have occurred in recent months. So that was cute,

584
00:27:11,984 --> 00:27:14,584
Speaker 2: and so Olivia Wilde shared all these like wild memes,

585
00:27:14,904 --> 00:27:17,984
Speaker 2: and then Olivia Wilde wrote across them billion dollars bought

586
00:27:18,024 --> 00:27:20,304
Speaker 2: some good memes, I guess, And look, the woman's not wrong.

587
00:27:20,464 --> 00:27:22,744
Speaker 1: She's not wrong. We're talking about it right here. And

588
00:27:22,824 --> 00:27:25,144
Speaker 1: I love a good meme exactly.

589
00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:27,144
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, Katie Perry in particular is getting

590
00:27:27,144 --> 00:27:28,824
Speaker 2: a lot of heat for kissing the ground, But like

591
00:27:28,904 --> 00:27:31,064
Speaker 2: I get it, Like, you know, you're in a high

592
00:27:31,144 --> 00:27:32,784
Speaker 2: you just spend eleven minutes or I think it's four

593
00:27:32,784 --> 00:27:34,344
Speaker 2: minutes in space, right, because it took them a few

594
00:27:34,344 --> 00:27:36,624
Speaker 2: minutes to get up, they have four minutes in space

595
00:27:37,024 --> 00:27:39,584
Speaker 2: where they did their little like cry of women take

596
00:27:39,624 --> 00:27:41,944
Speaker 2: up space. They showed off their props, they floated around,

597
00:27:41,944 --> 00:27:44,344
Speaker 2: which looked fun. Then they plummeted back down to Earth.

598
00:27:44,424 --> 00:27:47,344
Speaker 2: They tumbled out. She kissed the ground, and I think

599
00:27:47,384 --> 00:27:49,424
Speaker 2: she was just really wanting to have those viral moments.

600
00:27:49,464 --> 00:27:51,704
Speaker 1: But can you imagine the adrenaline rush after something like that?

601
00:27:51,784 --> 00:27:55,024
Speaker 1: One percent, Like, let's not forget about that. I mean,

602
00:27:55,064 --> 00:27:57,504
Speaker 1: even getting off a roller coaster, you get an adrenaline rush.

603
00:27:57,504 --> 00:27:59,544
Speaker 1: I've done skydiving before, and afterwards I was.

604
00:27:59,544 --> 00:28:01,784
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, kissing the ground.

605
00:28:02,184 --> 00:28:04,744
Speaker 1: I wasn't kissing the ground, but I was just soa

606
00:28:05,144 --> 00:28:10,664
Speaker 1: adrenaline is an incredible drug. Like ye, I don't fault

607
00:28:10,744 --> 00:28:11,704
Speaker 1: her for that, but it's.

608
00:28:11,624 --> 00:28:13,704
Speaker 2: Hilarious to look exactly. I mean, look, at the end

609
00:28:13,744 --> 00:28:15,824
Speaker 2: of the day, Katy Perry is a performer, and she

610
00:28:15,984 --> 00:28:18,664
Speaker 2: made this a performance. And as much as everyone's making

611
00:28:18,704 --> 00:28:20,624
Speaker 2: fun of her, she's kind of come out on top.

612
00:28:20,704 --> 00:28:22,744
Speaker 2: I feel literally on top because she was in space.

613
00:28:23,184 --> 00:28:25,224
Speaker 2: So I look forward to other celebrities going to space.

614
00:28:25,224 --> 00:28:26,824
Speaker 2: I'm sure a few more of them will do it now,

615
00:28:26,824 --> 00:28:28,784
Speaker 2: and they'll each try and sort of top with each

616
00:28:28,784 --> 00:28:31,104
Speaker 2: other with their viral moments, and like maybe this is

617
00:28:31,104 --> 00:28:32,664
Speaker 2: going to come out in new red carpet. It's like,

618
00:28:32,704 --> 00:28:35,544
Speaker 2: what did people do up in space? I also am

619
00:28:35,624 --> 00:28:38,384
Speaker 2: enjoying some of the headlines today, like Katy Perry was

620
00:28:38,424 --> 00:28:41,144
Speaker 2: talking about the eleven dollars setting spray that she used

621
00:28:41,184 --> 00:28:43,704
Speaker 2: to keep her makeup on in space. I'm like, girl,

622
00:28:43,984 --> 00:28:46,424
Speaker 2: it was eleven minutes. You didn't need setting spray for

623
00:28:46,464 --> 00:28:48,544
Speaker 2: your makeup. I'm sure it would have been fine.

624
00:28:48,704 --> 00:28:52,824
Speaker 1: I wonder if zero gravity setting spray is like, Okay,

625
00:28:52,864 --> 00:28:54,984
Speaker 1: there we go, don't steal my business idea.

626
00:28:55,264 --> 00:28:59,464
Speaker 2: The endorsements are just endless love that. Well, thank you

627
00:28:59,504 --> 00:29:01,544
Speaker 2: so much for listening to the Spill today, and thank

628
00:29:01,544 --> 00:29:03,584
Speaker 2: you so much Tocka Senya for joining us the last

629
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Speaker 2: couple of days. Hitting all the big topics, but dazzled

630
00:29:06,504 --> 00:29:10,344
Speaker 2: underwear butterflies in space. It's been hard hitting news this week.

631
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Speaker 1: You know what, I actually just love a little bit of.

632
00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:15,464
Speaker 2: Joy, me too, a little bit of space joy. Well,

633
00:29:15,544 --> 00:29:17,664
Speaker 2: the Spill we back in your feet at three pm

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Speaker 2: tomorrow and we'll see it the bye bye