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Speaker 1: You live for fashion.

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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that

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Speaker 3: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm listening

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Speaker 1: And I'm Tamara Holland.

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Speaker 4: And each week we chat about all things style to

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Speaker 4: help us work out how to get more out of

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Speaker 4: this week's packed episode, we're going to talk about how

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Speaker 4: don't mean dressing is out and cortisole dressing is in.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about.

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Speaker 4: How vintage shopping is the new status symbol.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, we've.

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Speaker 4: Got some really great shopping rex for you as well

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Speaker 4: coming in Bougie to Budget. But first, let's chat about

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Speaker 4: what's going on in fashion right now, Lucinda, what you

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Speaker 3: So lots going on in the fashion zeit, guys, I

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Speaker 3: don't think we could do this episode ten without just

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Speaker 3: quickly touching on Australian Fashion Week I know we have

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Speaker 3: another episode with Nothing to Wear and Lee talking about

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Speaker 3: the shows and the different trends. I wanted to talk

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Speaker 3: particularly about color trends. It's always fascinating to me to

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Speaker 1: In of a color nerd.

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Speaker 4: You even have a whole newsletter about predicting trends and

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Speaker 4: especially focusing on colours and things coming through and looking

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Speaker 3: We were predicting to see at Australian Fashion Week, and

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Speaker 3: it did rain true and it's nice to see we're

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Speaker 3: when there was a heavy focus in black, white and neutrals,

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Speaker 3: And the colors that we did see around twenty percent,

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Speaker 4: And then a real standout for me was Emily in

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Speaker 4: Guy's term Lucinda, The latest internet discourse centering on a

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Speaker 4: Okay, in case you've missed it, y'all, Olivia is promoting

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Speaker 4: hated it. Olivia Rodrigo, if you don't know, is one

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Speaker 4: Exactly, and she's got a lot coming out. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: an interview with Vogue saying, I just remember being younger

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Speaker 4: and having pictures of Courtney Love and all these riot

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Speaker 4: So she's citing someone like Courtney Love as a style influence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was quite blatantly there wasn't it Like it

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Speaker 4: We actually unpacked it on this show being like whoa okay,

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Speaker 3: What's one thing this week you've been seeing that you

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to speak to you about something today

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Speaker 2: And this idea you've probably seen it online.

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Speaker 4: So everything pre loved, let's.

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Speaker 1: Just say all of it.

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Speaker 3: It was always around finding what is it someone else's

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's a flex, it's our, isn't it. Do

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Speaker 3: I think for various reasons. I even think looking referencing

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Speaker 4: And they told me this specifically that you know, you

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Speaker 4: fast to create an amazing look. And you know, me personally,

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00:19:31,034 --> 00:19:34,714
Speaker 4: I've always had that attitude. Like I have been op

443
00:19:34,754 --> 00:19:37,194
Speaker 4: shopping since I was a kid. I've always loved the

444
00:19:37,234 --> 00:19:39,834
Speaker 4: thrill of the you know, the search and the hunt,

445
00:19:39,874 --> 00:19:42,033
Speaker 4: and that has always been in eight in me. But

446
00:19:42,114 --> 00:19:44,354
Speaker 4: I know that there's a little bit of there's has

447
00:19:44,434 --> 00:19:46,234
Speaker 4: been stigma in the past, but I think we can

448
00:19:46,274 --> 00:19:48,994
Speaker 4: well and truly say that stigma is lifted now. And

449
00:19:49,034 --> 00:19:53,634
Speaker 4: there is certainly cultural currency like never before in finding things.

450
00:19:53,674 --> 00:19:55,394
Speaker 4: And I know we've spoken about on this show before,

451
00:19:55,434 --> 00:20:00,234
Speaker 4: but like there's a whole online like ecosystem and content

452
00:20:00,314 --> 00:20:03,354
Speaker 4: space now for sharing what you're finding, sharing the best.

453
00:20:03,154 --> 00:20:06,154
Speaker 1: Places to get things. I love when I'm.

454
00:20:06,034 --> 00:20:09,594
Speaker 4: Served those video of people sharing like the gems that

455
00:20:09,634 --> 00:20:12,074
Speaker 4: they find in three stores all over the world and

456
00:20:12,074 --> 00:20:13,674
Speaker 4: they're like, oh my god, I can't believe I found

457
00:20:13,674 --> 00:20:16,793
Speaker 4: Pride shoes in a shin in oxfam or whatever. Like

458
00:20:16,794 --> 00:20:19,234
Speaker 4: I'm addicted to that content. Yeah, I want to be

459
00:20:19,314 --> 00:20:20,074
Speaker 4: that girl.

460
00:20:19,914 --> 00:20:23,553
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, there is something like you said about

461
00:20:23,554 --> 00:20:26,994
Speaker 3: that hunt and the friction that makes something cool about

462
00:20:27,034 --> 00:20:30,114
Speaker 3: wearing vintage, right, Yeah, Like that's where you get that

463
00:20:30,314 --> 00:20:33,793
Speaker 3: you've got fashion literacy, you've got that fashion intel and

464
00:20:33,874 --> 00:20:36,833
Speaker 3: knowledge that yeah, this is actually a nineties Chanelle jacket,

465
00:20:36,834 --> 00:20:39,674
Speaker 3: not just buying you because everyone's got the capability to

466
00:20:39,714 --> 00:20:43,313
Speaker 3: buy new arrivals by a whole styled look online. But

467
00:20:43,394 --> 00:20:46,954
Speaker 3: if you've actually got that sort of know how about

468
00:20:47,154 --> 00:20:49,874
Speaker 3: sourcing something unique and different, You're gonna look unique, You're

469
00:20:49,874 --> 00:20:50,754
Speaker 3: gonna look individually.

470
00:20:50,914 --> 00:20:56,273
Speaker 4: Where I say it's almost also potentially a reaction to

471
00:20:57,114 --> 00:21:02,754
Speaker 4: being overfed trends and microtrends. You know, this is the

472
00:21:02,834 --> 00:21:05,994
Speaker 4: kind of going the opposite way of that. It's like, okay, well,

473
00:21:06,034 --> 00:21:08,434
Speaker 4: if anyone can read, create a look or be served

474
00:21:08,434 --> 00:21:12,313
Speaker 4: a look, and feed into that constantly through shopping, you know,

475
00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:15,434
Speaker 4: like we're just being served and served and served the

476
00:21:15,474 --> 00:21:18,154
Speaker 4: same things over and over again. Kind of going left

477
00:21:18,154 --> 00:21:20,674
Speaker 4: of that, proving that you can well, maybe even source

478
00:21:20,674 --> 00:21:22,714
Speaker 4: a similar look but from a vintage shop rather than

479
00:21:22,754 --> 00:21:24,114
Speaker 4: shopping new or shopping fast.

480
00:21:24,154 --> 00:21:26,074
Speaker 1: Like there is clout in doing that.

481
00:21:26,234 --> 00:21:29,313
Speaker 3: Right, anyone getting vox popped at fashion Week would have

482
00:21:29,434 --> 00:21:32,034
Speaker 3: would probably prefer to say this is vintage rather than

483
00:21:32,154 --> 00:21:34,194
Speaker 3: this is new edition blah blah blah.

484
00:21:34,234 --> 00:21:36,634
Speaker 4: Right, that's so interesting because in the past, I feel

485
00:21:36,634 --> 00:21:38,434
Speaker 4: like it would have been the opposite, Like in the past,

486
00:21:38,474 --> 00:21:41,394
Speaker 4: if I were doing interviews at fashion Week fifteen years ago,

487
00:21:41,514 --> 00:21:43,674
Speaker 4: it would have been like, oh, my outfit is all

488
00:21:43,794 --> 00:21:47,033
Speaker 4: new designer, and now it's completely flipinged the script.

489
00:21:47,114 --> 00:21:47,954
Speaker 2: I also think.

490
00:21:47,794 --> 00:21:50,794
Speaker 3: What's changed is at fashion week be everyone's almost got

491
00:21:50,834 --> 00:21:51,394
Speaker 3: that knowledge.

492
00:21:51,394 --> 00:21:52,314
Speaker 2: Now they'd never.

493
00:21:52,194 --> 00:21:54,513
Speaker 3: Dare say it was fast fashion. There's no she in

494
00:21:54,634 --> 00:21:57,314
Speaker 3: head to toe looks. There might be, but people getting

495
00:21:57,354 --> 00:21:59,714
Speaker 3: vox popped almost a bit more savvy. Not to say

496
00:21:59,754 --> 00:22:02,074
Speaker 3: that a few years ago, those heaps of discours the

497
00:22:02,074 --> 00:22:05,194
Speaker 3: line about lots of influencers wearing like sheen and temo

498
00:22:05,314 --> 00:22:08,314
Speaker 3: and stuff to fashion Week. So it's that awareness. Why

499
00:22:08,354 --> 00:22:10,994
Speaker 3: are we seeing it as a status symbol? Obviously the

500
00:22:11,034 --> 00:22:14,514
Speaker 3: sustainability and what we're seeing with the climate is pushing

501
00:22:14,634 --> 00:22:17,994
Speaker 3: and encouraging vintage and pushing it into that social status.

502
00:22:18,114 --> 00:22:20,234
Speaker 4: Well it's cool to care, isn't it. It's cool to

503
00:22:20,594 --> 00:22:23,594
Speaker 4: you know, it's cool to try. I think now as well,

504
00:22:23,674 --> 00:22:26,154
Speaker 4: like to make the effort, and you have to labor

505
00:22:26,714 --> 00:22:29,714
Speaker 4: over vintage, You have to labor over op shopping, like

506
00:22:29,754 --> 00:22:31,834
Speaker 4: you can't just the things don't come to you in

507
00:22:31,874 --> 00:22:34,273
Speaker 4: the same way you get served trends and served, you know,

508
00:22:34,594 --> 00:22:37,874
Speaker 4: a perfect outfit on an e commerce store. You actually

509
00:22:37,874 --> 00:22:40,914
Speaker 4: don't get served anything when you're vintage shopping or rough shopping.

510
00:22:40,954 --> 00:22:42,914
Speaker 4: You have to do the hunting yourself and you have to.

511
00:22:42,834 --> 00:22:43,354
Speaker 1: Do the work.

512
00:22:43,394 --> 00:22:45,154
Speaker 3: And you know what, Tam, I should take it back

513
00:22:45,194 --> 00:22:46,634
Speaker 3: to the very top of this discussion.

514
00:22:46,874 --> 00:22:48,714
Speaker 2: It was almost a very cool girl.

515
00:22:48,874 --> 00:22:51,594
Speaker 3: I wasn't a vintage shopper, so for me to do

516
00:22:51,674 --> 00:22:54,154
Speaker 3: that hunt, it wasn't part of my thing, but it

517
00:22:54,234 --> 00:22:57,033
Speaker 3: was a cool thing to do and find these amazing

518
00:22:57,034 --> 00:22:59,314
Speaker 3: pieces to bring it full circle. I actually really love

519
00:22:59,474 --> 00:23:03,074
Speaker 3: this quote from the CEO of Festia, which we both love,

520
00:23:03,674 --> 00:23:07,313
Speaker 3: the pre loved online luxury store. They've said vintage has

521
00:23:07,354 --> 00:23:10,034
Speaker 3: become its own luxury status symbol. It's not always about

522
00:23:10,034 --> 00:23:12,674
Speaker 3: what's new anymore. Sometimes it's about what's old and hard

523
00:23:12,674 --> 00:23:15,074
Speaker 3: to find, and I find that really resonates with me.

524
00:23:15,514 --> 00:23:19,274
Speaker 3: It's about creating a unique look with unique pieces. They're

525
00:23:19,314 --> 00:23:22,594
Speaker 3: one of a kind potentially, how you pull that into

526
00:23:22,634 --> 00:23:24,874
Speaker 3: a look It hasn't just been ripped straight off in

527
00:23:24,954 --> 00:23:27,914
Speaker 3: new Arrivals website, So I love that idea. I also

528
00:23:28,034 --> 00:23:31,314
Speaker 3: just love that friction and the source and the hunt

529
00:23:31,314 --> 00:23:35,474
Speaker 3: which I never necessarily was exposed to, but now sort.

530
00:23:35,274 --> 00:23:37,514
Speaker 2: Of diffing my toe in. I love that. I feel

531
00:23:37,594 --> 00:23:39,513
Speaker 2: so proud to say something's vintage.

532
00:23:39,714 --> 00:23:42,234
Speaker 4: Well welcome friend, I'm glad to have you as someone

533
00:23:42,274 --> 00:23:46,273
Speaker 4: whose favorite shows are Antiques Road Show and Bargain Hunt.

534
00:23:46,634 --> 00:23:47,874
Speaker 2: You really have like a.

535
00:23:47,954 --> 00:23:51,114
Speaker 3: Nice personal affection to because I'm an eighty year old

536
00:23:51,114 --> 00:23:51,754
Speaker 3: British man.

537
00:23:53,314 --> 00:23:55,273
Speaker 1: We're glad to have you with the fold.

538
00:23:54,954 --> 00:23:56,754
Speaker 2: It's really nice. I love it.

539
00:23:57,234 --> 00:23:59,914
Speaker 4: So something that caught my eye the other day while

540
00:23:59,954 --> 00:24:02,394
Speaker 4: I was scarrolling and it stopped my thumb, is that

541
00:24:02,394 --> 00:24:03,234
Speaker 4: the term that we use?

542
00:24:04,754 --> 00:24:05,514
Speaker 2: Thought?

543
00:24:05,034 --> 00:24:09,194
Speaker 4: I heard that as a marketing professor. Sure, some stopping content.

544
00:24:10,234 --> 00:24:14,074
Speaker 4: So it was on Birdie, the women's cultural website, and

545
00:24:14,114 --> 00:24:16,513
Speaker 4: it really grabbed me. So it was about how dopamine

546
00:24:16,594 --> 00:24:19,834
Speaker 4: dressing is out and quarters old dressing is in, and

547
00:24:19,874 --> 00:24:22,033
Speaker 4: I was like, whoa quarters old dressing?

548
00:24:22,234 --> 00:24:23,034
Speaker 1: What is that?

549
00:24:23,034 --> 00:24:27,313
Speaker 4: That's interesting because dopamine dressing just as a little like

550
00:24:27,594 --> 00:24:30,074
Speaker 4: fill in if you're you know, what is that?

551
00:24:30,514 --> 00:24:31,394
Speaker 1: I think for me.

552
00:24:31,354 --> 00:24:34,074
Speaker 4: That really came into its own as a concept like

553
00:24:34,154 --> 00:24:37,394
Speaker 4: post pandemic. Everyone was talking about dope meine dressing and

554
00:24:37,434 --> 00:24:38,874
Speaker 4: it was about like dressing.

555
00:24:38,514 --> 00:24:42,234
Speaker 1: To spark joy right. Yeah, it was very like.

556
00:24:42,274 --> 00:24:47,114
Speaker 4: Marie Condo your wardrobe right, like makes you feel exactly,

557
00:24:47,114 --> 00:24:50,234
Speaker 4: which is great. We all needed that post COVID. We

558
00:24:50,314 --> 00:24:53,314
Speaker 4: needed that, like you know, yeah, spark me up, make

559
00:24:53,354 --> 00:24:56,634
Speaker 4: me feel joy again, and all of that in our wardrobes.

560
00:24:56,674 --> 00:25:00,914
Speaker 4: And now, you know, seeing this thing about quarters old dressing,

561
00:25:01,034 --> 00:25:03,314
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, well that's kind of the opposite.

562
00:25:03,354 --> 00:25:04,394
Speaker 1: So quarters old.

563
00:25:04,234 --> 00:25:08,314
Speaker 4: Dressing is about leaning into dressing for what soothes your

564
00:25:08,354 --> 00:25:12,234
Speaker 4: mood instead rather than like brightening your day. It's like

565
00:25:12,514 --> 00:25:16,834
Speaker 4: dress in step with how you're really feeling. So apparently

566
00:25:16,914 --> 00:25:21,194
Speaker 4: per Birdie, it's investing in a quartersole closet is about

567
00:25:21,234 --> 00:25:25,033
Speaker 4: calming it all down. So it's a palette built around

568
00:25:25,034 --> 00:25:29,234
Speaker 4: tones that feel intentionally soothing and low impact. So think

569
00:25:29,474 --> 00:25:33,834
Speaker 4: like you know, dusty blues and soft pinks and earthy greens,

570
00:25:33,874 --> 00:25:36,034
Speaker 4: and you know, some of the colors we definitely talked

571
00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:38,313
Speaker 4: about with the fashion week wrap up that's all on

572
00:25:38,354 --> 00:25:44,554
Speaker 4: trend cloud dancer, cloud Dancer, I told.

573
00:25:44,314 --> 00:25:46,474
Speaker 2: You definitely cloud dance, but.

574
00:25:48,194 --> 00:25:51,114
Speaker 1: Down I think you're right.

575
00:25:52,114 --> 00:25:55,074
Speaker 4: So those are the colors, those low impact tones. It's

576
00:25:55,114 --> 00:25:58,914
Speaker 4: about essentially regulating your mood through dress. But this really

577
00:25:58,914 --> 00:26:01,354
Speaker 4: got me thinking about that as a broader concept.

578
00:26:01,594 --> 00:26:03,714
Speaker 1: Bertie was just talking about it through color.

579
00:26:03,754 --> 00:26:07,273
Speaker 4: But I actually think this is a bigger picture story

580
00:26:07,274 --> 00:26:09,553
Speaker 4: in terms of how we're dressing, because I know, for me,

581
00:26:09,754 --> 00:26:13,394
Speaker 4: like the silhouettes that I'm responding to now, it's about

582
00:26:13,434 --> 00:26:16,434
Speaker 4: like ease, and I'm really seeing this coming through and

583
00:26:16,514 --> 00:26:19,033
Speaker 4: what you know, in what's on the runway in the

584
00:26:19,034 --> 00:26:22,033
Speaker 4: looks that I'm responding to online and then I'm being served.

585
00:26:22,074 --> 00:26:24,954
Speaker 4: It's like things that you can shrug on yourself. It's

586
00:26:25,154 --> 00:26:28,954
Speaker 4: robes and things you wrap up. It's like comfy, it's satin,

587
00:26:29,274 --> 00:26:31,874
Speaker 4: it's textured pieces, it's you know where all of a

588
00:26:31,874 --> 00:26:35,394
Speaker 4: sudden we're seeing you know, accessories that are like furry

589
00:26:35,874 --> 00:26:37,754
Speaker 4: start to train, fuzzy.

590
00:26:37,434 --> 00:26:40,954
Speaker 3: Thing physaically, they almost give you that comfort comfort.

591
00:26:40,674 --> 00:26:43,033
Speaker 1: Yes, snugly accessories, you know.

592
00:26:43,034 --> 00:26:43,914
Speaker 2: I love that.

593
00:26:44,154 --> 00:26:46,914
Speaker 3: I guess just with everything, like you know, the uncertainty

594
00:26:46,994 --> 00:26:50,314
Speaker 3: with AI and everything is so stressful right now, it's

595
00:26:50,314 --> 00:26:54,474
Speaker 3: almost just this like physical, visceral reaction to that. I

596
00:26:54,514 --> 00:26:57,434
Speaker 3: also think there's some nice link with utility dressing. It's

597
00:26:57,474 --> 00:27:00,194
Speaker 3: all about comfort and function. We're just going right back

598
00:27:00,194 --> 00:27:01,274
Speaker 3: to basics.

599
00:27:01,314 --> 00:27:04,234
Speaker 4: So true, do you know, oh, I'm going to do

600
00:27:04,274 --> 00:27:10,234
Speaker 4: with you now, and I'm going to cite some data.

601
00:27:10,434 --> 00:27:13,074
Speaker 4: I was looking at the List Index. Do you ever

602
00:27:13,194 --> 00:27:14,714
Speaker 4: use a list Yeah?

603
00:27:14,754 --> 00:27:15,194
Speaker 2: I don't know.

604
00:27:15,594 --> 00:27:17,154
Speaker 1: I love it for fashion reporting.

605
00:27:17,154 --> 00:27:20,994
Speaker 4: The list Index is a quarterly report on the trending

606
00:27:21,234 --> 00:27:24,474
Speaker 4: brands and the like movers and shakers in the fashion world,

607
00:27:24,554 --> 00:27:27,394
Speaker 4: the key ten items that people are fixating on and

608
00:27:27,434 --> 00:27:31,634
Speaker 4: searching in fashion. And they've just brought out a new report,

609
00:27:31,914 --> 00:27:36,033
Speaker 4: but the previous report. What really got to me about

610
00:27:36,034 --> 00:27:38,354
Speaker 4: the sort of the headline from that report from the

611
00:27:38,354 --> 00:27:42,194
Speaker 4: previous quarter was and that's really what's infiltrating the market now,

612
00:27:42,594 --> 00:27:44,634
Speaker 4: because they're like doing what's ahead, But this is what's

613
00:27:44,674 --> 00:27:48,354
Speaker 4: in the market now is like utility dressing to your point,

614
00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:55,794
Speaker 4: dressing for like comfort, dressing for like purely for practical reasons,

615
00:27:55,954 --> 00:27:59,194
Speaker 4: and really responding to brands that really lean into that

616
00:27:59,314 --> 00:28:03,234
Speaker 4: utility factor. I just like I can't stop thinking about

617
00:28:03,234 --> 00:28:05,314
Speaker 4: that because I'm like, oh my gosh, so true.

618
00:28:05,514 --> 00:28:08,714
Speaker 3: Maybe like we're stressed, going to work, to a stressful job.

619
00:28:08,754 --> 00:28:12,834
Speaker 3: You know, the economy, everything political is stressful. So if

620
00:28:12,834 --> 00:28:15,154
Speaker 3: we can just make ourselves less stressed, we're not gonna

621
00:28:15,154 --> 00:28:17,474
Speaker 3: be walking around in high heels like giving ourselves a bunyant.

622
00:28:17,474 --> 00:28:19,954
Speaker 3: We're not going to be walking around in tight corsets

623
00:28:19,954 --> 00:28:22,674
Speaker 3: feeling really uncomfortable. If there's somewhere there's a bit of

624
00:28:22,714 --> 00:28:23,914
Speaker 3: give and take, it's where we're.

625
00:28:23,834 --> 00:28:26,234
Speaker 4: Dressing, absolutely, And I think in what we're wanting to

626
00:28:26,234 --> 00:28:28,434
Speaker 4: shop as well, Like I know that everything that's on

627
00:28:28,474 --> 00:28:33,034
Speaker 4: my list right now is ease. It's fluid, it's layered,

628
00:28:33,194 --> 00:28:37,754
Speaker 4: it's simple and unstructured and unfussy and loose, and yeah,

629
00:28:37,794 --> 00:28:40,434
Speaker 4: I think that's obviously responding to a bigger trend in

630
00:28:40,474 --> 00:28:43,234
Speaker 4: the market. And I can't imagine being restricted again really,

631
00:28:43,274 --> 00:28:45,034
Speaker 4: but then I've never really wanted to be restricted.

632
00:28:45,554 --> 00:28:46,074
Speaker 2: The color is.

633
00:28:46,114 --> 00:28:47,914
Speaker 3: Really interesting, like we're talking at the top of the

634
00:28:47,954 --> 00:28:52,994
Speaker 3: episode about cloud Dancer dance, but also radiant earth being

635
00:28:53,034 --> 00:28:56,594
Speaker 3: the WGS and color for twenty twenty eight, just those earthy,

636
00:28:56,834 --> 00:28:59,274
Speaker 3: soft colors. But you mentioned about the powder blue and

637
00:28:59,394 --> 00:29:01,114
Speaker 3: yeah yellow, yeah.

638
00:29:01,074 --> 00:29:04,234
Speaker 4: So pastal, it's pastors, but even like even light softer

639
00:29:04,314 --> 00:29:07,634
Speaker 4: than that. But I guess there like the sort of

640
00:29:07,714 --> 00:29:10,754
Speaker 4: through line here is, you know, it's dressing to self soothe,

641
00:29:11,154 --> 00:29:13,794
Speaker 4: and whatever that looks like or feels like for you

642
00:29:13,954 --> 00:29:15,994
Speaker 4: is appropriate. Like if you don't want to dress in

643
00:29:16,194 --> 00:29:19,714
Speaker 4: cloud dance whatever like, you don't have to. If it's

644
00:29:19,714 --> 00:29:22,314
Speaker 4: a neon brights for you, if it's leather, coarser tree

645
00:29:22,314 --> 00:29:26,194
Speaker 4: for you, whatever that is, it's it's regulating your cortisol.

646
00:29:26,354 --> 00:29:29,154
Speaker 4: If that's bringing your mood to where it needs to be,

647
00:29:29,194 --> 00:29:30,034
Speaker 4: then that's what you should be.

648
00:29:30,194 --> 00:29:31,114
Speaker 2: I really like that.

649
00:29:31,394 --> 00:29:33,034
Speaker 3: When we come back from the break, we're going to

650
00:29:33,034 --> 00:29:35,954
Speaker 3: get into Bougie to Budget, one of our favorite segments

651
00:29:35,954 --> 00:29:36,554
Speaker 3: in the show.

652
00:29:36,914 --> 00:29:38,314
Speaker 2: I'll be bringing to the pod.

653
00:29:38,314 --> 00:29:42,234
Speaker 3: Some beautiful fringe belting, which I'm obsessed with, and Town's

654
00:29:42,234 --> 00:29:44,754
Speaker 3: going to be bringing some sheer pieces, so I'm looking

655
00:29:44,754 --> 00:29:45,234
Speaker 3: forward to that.

656
00:29:56,554 --> 00:29:57,994
Speaker 1: It's very expensive.

657
00:29:58,794 --> 00:30:00,674
Speaker 2: How wondre are these twenty five percent?

658
00:30:01,954 --> 00:30:04,754
Speaker 4: Now it's time for everyone's favorite segment, Bougie to Budget,

659
00:30:04,754 --> 00:30:07,314
Speaker 4: where we each bring to the table three items that

660
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Speaker 4: range in price from affordable to investment. Let's just say so, Listinda,

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Speaker 4: what have you got for us this week?

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Speaker 3: So I love this part of the show because it

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Speaker 3: really is what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a

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Speaker 3: fringe belt. I'm so excited and inspired. After fashion we Yes,

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Speaker 3: I really love the idea of just adding an accessory

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Speaker 3: to my winter wardrobe. Rather than buying like a whole

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Speaker 3: new jacket. So remember I brought the triangle scarf the scaff.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm obsessed with that.

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Speaker 3: Now I really want a fringe black leather belt to

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Speaker 3: sort of sinch you in my oversized blazers in my jackets,

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Speaker 3: similar to what I'm wearing now, Tom. So this is

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Speaker 3: just a brown leather cord that I've cinched in over

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Speaker 3: a oversized blazer, just to give a bit more of

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Speaker 3: a different structure to this blazer that I've had for

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Speaker 3: about three or four years.

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Speaker 1: It makes it look so cool.

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Speaker 4: It's just like a little leather cord with a bit

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Speaker 4: of gold hardware, but it completely updates the look.

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Speaker 3: And I did see a lot of these black leather

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Speaker 3: not necessarily leather or Swede fringe belts out fashion week,

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Speaker 3: so I've looked at three. Definitely considering getting one of these.

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Speaker 3: My budget piece is an Australian brand called Mucci. It's

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty dollars, which is still a lot.

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Speaker 3: I tried finding a cheaper one, so there's some out

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Speaker 3: there on like Amazon and you know whatnot, but I

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Speaker 3: really wanted to present an Australian brand, so one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty one hundred percent black leather.

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Speaker 2: It's just the side detail.

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Speaker 3: I actually think this is my favorite one out of

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Speaker 3: the three.

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't fringe around the whole way.

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Speaker 2: Not all the way around.

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Speaker 3: You can definitely get those and I've been looking at those,

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Speaker 3: but this is just a side detail.

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Speaker 4: Excess because the full fringe is a bit like yha, cowboy.

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Speaker 4: This is just like a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Of that completely takes it's almost it's an aggressive piece

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Speaker 3: to app where this is just a little nice detail.

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Speaker 2: It's a feature.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there are some great ones out there. I

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Speaker 3: think a liar do a really cute all the way

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Speaker 3: around one. But anyway, so this is Moucci Australian brand,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty dollars for just the side detail

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Speaker 3: of the black leather fringe.

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Speaker 2: The fringe goes all the way down to the knee.

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Speaker 3: My mid range is actually from Zara two hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty dollars, so it's.

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Speaker 2: Actually up there for a Zara belt.

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Speaker 3: But remembering guys, it's black leather, genuine leather. This one's

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Speaker 3: a bit more of a full fringe and it goes

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Speaker 3: asymmetrical down the body. It's actually really cool.

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Speaker 4: I like how when you describe the fringing, you do

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Speaker 4: like jazz hand waist, just to demonstrate how the fringe

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Speaker 4: would flare when one would turn.

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Speaker 3: And that's right the movement in fringe dressing as well.

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Speaker 2: Like are you so inspired after that?

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Speaker 4: No, I wore a fringed satin scarf to Fashion Week.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say that I had had many

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Speaker 4: questions about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, one of the catalysts of my inspiration. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: I saw you looked incredible.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: That's so flattering. No, it was from a label called Tendress.

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Speaker 4: She's an Australian lady startup does the most beautiful satin

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Speaker 4: pieces and it's fringed, stunning satin scarf. Recommend to everyone.

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Speaker 4: You can wear it around your waist, around your neck.

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Speaker 4: But we're not talking about me right now.

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Speaker 3: Seeing there's that softer option in a fringe belt rather

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Speaker 3: than having to go the level.

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Speaker 1: You can do to stop the satin as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, my bougie is a car Lagerfeld ooh right.

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Speaker 2: I actually just wanted to include him.

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Speaker 3: To have a car Laga felt one of those things

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Speaker 3: we just buy for the brand. Right to say that

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Speaker 3: your own car Lagafel.

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Speaker 4: Sure, that's a name I haven't thought about in a

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Speaker 4: wh tell it to me.

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Speaker 3: And actually this one was three hundred and sixteen dollars

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Speaker 3: okay on neta Porte. So this one was a little

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Speaker 3: bit more of a full fringe so like it was

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Speaker 3: what we were talking about before, if you wanted a

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Speaker 3: little bit more full coverage. So this one's a bit

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Speaker 3: more black leather, full fringing around. So basically a skirt,

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Speaker 3: basically a skirt, and this is like a cool girl look.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe for three hundred and eighteen dollars as well,

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Speaker 3: it's quite reasonable, but yeah, that could completely change a look.

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Speaker 3: I think that's more going into an outfit like peace

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Speaker 3: rather than detail or accessory. Yes, but it's a fun

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Speaker 3: piece if you're considering trying this trend, So look at

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Speaker 3: all three, look at the different price options. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: different variations of fringing there for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sober, I'm sold.

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Speaker 2: So what have you got for me?

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Speaker 4: I am obsessed with everything gauzy and organza since fashion Week. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I had a little taster of this a few months ago.

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Speaker 4: I bought a semi sheer brown shirt from Target. Good

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00:34:24,154 --> 00:34:26,594
Speaker 4: old Taja love it, have worn it to death, so

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Speaker 4: I really want to invest in another piece, but I

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Speaker 4: also want something beyond a shirt, like maybe not a

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a skirt or a tunic.

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Speaker 4: So I got a couple of options for you, but

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Speaker 4: I definitely want it to be Organza. Okay, great, because

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Speaker 4: that's when I'm seeing us for so much at fashion week.

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Speaker 4: So for my budget, it's from a sauce and a

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Speaker 4: sauce reps top Shop.

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Speaker 1: Top Shop is still.

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Speaker 4: Around doing some really great pieces almost I don't know

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Speaker 4: if it's exclusive to a sauce, but there's a lot

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Speaker 4: on there. So Asoce has the top Shop Longline sheer

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Speaker 4: Organza tunic in the color Oyster and it's seventy two dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is like a high neck.

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Speaker 4: Sheer like cream tunic that hits like at the mid

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Speaker 4: thigh and you can layer that up over jeans or

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Speaker 4: pants or a skirt.

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Speaker 3: Really beautiful this I both want us together this one

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Speaker 3: we should and in Oyster and it comes in black

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 1: It does come in black.

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00:35:15,834 --> 00:35:18,553
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice, So my mid range, I can definitely see

780
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Speaker 4: myself buying this piece. It is from Dish. It's the

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00:35:21,874 --> 00:35:25,914
Speaker 4: cyan black silk organsa shirt. It also comes I think

782
00:35:25,954 --> 00:35:29,354
Speaker 4: it comes in brown and nude as well.

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Speaker 1: It's two hundred dollars.

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Speaker 4: It has like a little matching sheer skirt as well,

785
00:35:35,594 --> 00:35:37,114
Speaker 4: so you can do the full look or you can

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Speaker 4: just do the shirt. It's an oversized cut, I should say,

787
00:35:40,674 --> 00:35:43,393
Speaker 4: like most of Dish's shirts, and I think this is

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Speaker 4: perfect for me. I just wear it of a little

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Speaker 4: bralette or even a bikini top or something.

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Speaker 2: I love it gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: And then for my bougie of course, I've gone to

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Speaker 4: the franky shop because I always start there when I

793
00:35:54,514 --> 00:35:57,513
Speaker 4: want to look at things that I can't afford. So

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00:35:57,954 --> 00:36:01,914
Speaker 4: this is a really beautiful high neck, like again a

795
00:36:02,074 --> 00:36:05,274
Speaker 4: tunic dress. This one reaches a little lower than the

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00:36:05,274 --> 00:36:07,194
Speaker 4: top Shop one, so it goes down to like a

797
00:36:07,314 --> 00:36:12,354
Speaker 4: caulf and it's in this beautiful sheer olive green and

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00:36:12,394 --> 00:36:14,873
Speaker 4: it's got that high neck again. So it is the

799
00:36:14,914 --> 00:36:19,114
Speaker 4: Frankie Shop Corindy sheer organza dress in olive. It's one

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty euro so that sounds cheaper than it is.

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Speaker 3: Probably I hate doing that math at the end of

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00:36:26,914 --> 00:36:29,994
Speaker 3: but so what's that two hundred two hundred dollars maybe,

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00:36:30,034 --> 00:36:31,634
Speaker 3: which is you know, I think for a piece from

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00:36:31,634 --> 00:36:34,514
Speaker 3: the Frankie Shop is fair game, that's right. And also

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00:36:34,554 --> 00:36:36,274
Speaker 3: talking about the colors, look at what you've got here,

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00:36:36,354 --> 00:36:37,954
Speaker 3: oysters olive playing.

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00:36:37,674 --> 00:36:39,433
Speaker 1: In those earthy colors.

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00:36:39,714 --> 00:36:42,674
Speaker 4: I know, I know she's sold on the quarters old

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Speaker 4: dress ad dressing.

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00:36:43,954 --> 00:36:44,634
Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 1: My mood is souped. So one more thing I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about, Lucinda.

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00:36:49,634 --> 00:36:52,714
Speaker 4: We have an amazing offer for our new and current

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Speaker 4: subscribers from an Australian footwear brand that I am obsessed

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Speaker 4: with called Tubes.

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Speaker 1: Are you across them?

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00:36:59,074 --> 00:37:00,594
Speaker 2: Love them? I love seeing them on Instagram?

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00:37:00,874 --> 00:37:01,034
Speaker 3: Yes?

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00:37:01,114 --> 00:37:03,834
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So when I was in Byron recently Byron Bay,

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00:37:04,034 --> 00:37:06,714
Speaker 4: I actually bought a pair of Tubes. They are the

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00:37:06,874 --> 00:37:10,954
Speaker 4: most comfortable footwear. They are made from recycled materials. I

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00:37:10,994 --> 00:37:14,274
Speaker 4: love their sustainable ethos. I love their content on social

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00:37:14,554 --> 00:37:17,594
Speaker 4: I love the colorways, I love how cold Oh my gosh.

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00:37:17,634 --> 00:37:18,914
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are so cute.

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00:37:19,034 --> 00:37:21,674
Speaker 4: And the girls who founded the brand, Stuff and Jess

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00:37:21,714 --> 00:37:24,674
Speaker 4: are just angels. So it's an amazing brand to get

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Speaker 4: behind and if you haven't experienced it yet, really recommend it.

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Speaker 1: We have a really great.

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Speaker 4: Offer for new and current MMA MEA subscribers. It's twenty

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Speaker 4: dollars off tubes. This is a brand that famously never

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Speaker 4: goes on sale. They do not discount their pieces because

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00:37:40,314 --> 00:37:41,754
Speaker 4: they are worth the money.

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Speaker 1: So this is like a really cool offer to claim.

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00:37:44,954 --> 00:37:47,474
Speaker 2: Yeah, just for me, I have Yeah.

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Speaker 4: There's a link in the show notes to subscribe to

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Speaker 4: get your discount code and the offer ends May thirty first.

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Tam, and that's all we have time for today.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for listening to Nothing to Wear.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget to sign up to then Nothing to Wear newsletter.

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Speaker 4: There's a link in the show notes.

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Speaker 3: And don't forget to watch us on YouTube. Tam has

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Speaker 3: just put a really fun a bit of a day

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Speaker 3: in the life from Australian Fashion Week.

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Speaker 2: So there we are on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: We're also on Instagram and TikTok at Nothing to Wear pod,

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Speaker 3: so we'll see you next time, guys.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye, Mamma.

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Speaker 4: Mere acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. We have

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Speaker 4: recorded this podcast on the Gaddigal people of the Eora Nation.

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Speaker 4: We pay our respects to their elders past and present,

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Speaker 4: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait

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Speaker 4: islander cultures