1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:16,954 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mea podcast? Whoever said orange is 2 00:00:16,994 --> 00:00:19,274 Speaker 1: a new pink with seriously disturbed. 3 00:00:18,914 --> 00:00:21,274 Speaker 2: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 4 00:00:21,553 --> 00:00:23,354 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. 5 00:00:23,394 --> 00:00:24,634 Speaker 2: You live for fashion. 6 00:00:26,794 --> 00:00:29,474 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 7 00:00:29,554 --> 00:00:31,594 Speaker 3: solves fashion problems and levels. 8 00:00:31,354 --> 00:00:32,154 Speaker 2: Up your wardrobe. 9 00:00:32,153 --> 00:00:33,913 Speaker 1: My name is Tamara Holland. 10 00:00:33,754 --> 00:00:37,273 Speaker 2: And I'm Licinder Pickett. We talk all things style and 11 00:00:37,314 --> 00:00:40,434 Speaker 2: fashion on this podcast, and this week's a little bit different. 12 00:00:40,873 --> 00:00:44,233 Speaker 2: We've gone around the Sydneymuma Mea office and asked everyone 13 00:00:44,273 --> 00:00:48,153 Speaker 2: they're burning fashion questions, so hopefully tamn' I can answer 14 00:00:48,193 --> 00:00:49,514 Speaker 2: them for you today. Yeah. 15 00:00:49,553 --> 00:00:51,913 Speaker 3: Absolutely, We're going to give you our best advice that 16 00:00:51,954 --> 00:00:54,994 Speaker 3: we can and everything you need to keep you updated 17 00:00:55,074 --> 00:00:55,794 Speaker 3: in the fashion No. 18 00:00:55,994 --> 00:00:57,033 Speaker 1: So let's get into it. 19 00:00:57,314 --> 00:00:59,874 Speaker 2: So our first question that we got through ten, what 20 00:00:59,874 --> 00:01:02,514 Speaker 2: are your go to places to look for style inspiration? 21 00:01:02,754 --> 00:01:05,193 Speaker 2: If you're not someone who's constantly on top of every 22 00:01:05,314 --> 00:01:06,313 Speaker 2: new trend. 23 00:01:07,114 --> 00:01:10,194 Speaker 3: That's a good question. Why don't you kick us off? 24 00:01:10,234 --> 00:01:14,114 Speaker 3: Because I feel like you're very across trends. Maybe you 25 00:01:14,194 --> 00:01:16,154 Speaker 3: have some different points of view or inputs that we 26 00:01:16,314 --> 00:01:17,754 Speaker 3: the average person wouldn't know about. 27 00:01:17,914 --> 00:01:19,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and I think there'd be some as well 28 00:01:19,834 --> 00:01:22,114 Speaker 2: that you'd rely on quite heavily as well. And I 29 00:01:22,114 --> 00:01:25,554 Speaker 2: think the first one here is what I'm going to suggest, 30 00:01:25,634 --> 00:01:28,274 Speaker 2: is more sort of apps or websites that I use 31 00:01:28,394 --> 00:01:31,954 Speaker 2: quite frequently with work, okay, and potentially if you're someone 32 00:01:31,954 --> 00:01:34,474 Speaker 2: who is more interested in style, or maybe you're a 33 00:01:34,474 --> 00:01:36,674 Speaker 2: little bit interested to see where trends come from, they 34 00:01:36,674 --> 00:01:39,114 Speaker 2: could be quite helpful. I think the first one, and 35 00:01:39,194 --> 00:01:40,754 Speaker 2: I know this is a go to for you as well. 36 00:01:40,834 --> 00:01:42,874 Speaker 2: Tam is Vogue Runway the app. 37 00:01:42,994 --> 00:01:43,714 Speaker 1: Oh I live there. 38 00:01:43,834 --> 00:01:47,034 Speaker 2: It's sensational. It's my Sydney Morning Herald me too. 39 00:01:47,514 --> 00:01:49,394 Speaker 3: You know you do have to pay for it? Yeah, 40 00:01:49,394 --> 00:01:52,034 Speaker 3: I will say a lot of people. People will DM 41 00:01:52,074 --> 00:01:53,514 Speaker 3: me all the time and say where are you getting 42 00:01:53,554 --> 00:01:55,714 Speaker 3: these runway images from? And I'm like, girl, I pay 43 00:01:55,794 --> 00:01:58,034 Speaker 3: for it. I think it's like twelve dollars for the 44 00:01:58,074 --> 00:02:01,434 Speaker 3: first year, twelve dollars USD and then after that it's 45 00:02:01,594 --> 00:02:02,274 Speaker 3: a lot more. 46 00:02:02,154 --> 00:02:02,834 Speaker 1: Expensive, is it. 47 00:02:03,314 --> 00:02:06,594 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like sixty a year or something. Don't quote 48 00:02:06,634 --> 00:02:08,594 Speaker 3: me on that. Yeah, So you do have to subscribe 49 00:02:08,633 --> 00:02:11,073 Speaker 3: in the same way you'd subscribe to any other media 50 00:02:11,194 --> 00:02:13,794 Speaker 3: that is worth the payoff that you get for that, 51 00:02:13,874 --> 00:02:18,714 Speaker 3: which is access to every single runway show, exclusive content 52 00:02:18,794 --> 00:02:20,114 Speaker 3: with the Vogue editors, etc. 53 00:02:20,514 --> 00:02:22,834 Speaker 2: I think as consumers were used to sort of paying 54 00:02:22,834 --> 00:02:25,633 Speaker 2: that fee. Now with apps, if there's like I don't 55 00:02:25,634 --> 00:02:27,474 Speaker 2: know if it's a daily mail not them, but like 56 00:02:27,754 --> 00:02:30,074 Speaker 2: Washington Post or whatever it is, you sort of do 57 00:02:30,234 --> 00:02:32,474 Speaker 2: sign up for the app. But they're just so good. 58 00:02:32,554 --> 00:02:35,114 Speaker 2: I always think about the developers on that app, like 59 00:02:35,154 --> 00:02:38,994 Speaker 2: they're updating that so frequently. As soon as a runway 60 00:02:39,034 --> 00:02:41,834 Speaker 2: shows on, it's borm It's like updated with all the photos. 61 00:02:41,874 --> 00:02:43,754 Speaker 3: It reminds me of like my fashion week days. I 62 00:02:43,794 --> 00:02:45,434 Speaker 3: used to go to Sydney Fashion Week when I was 63 00:02:45,474 --> 00:02:48,674 Speaker 3: like a young fashion reporter and there would be these 64 00:02:48,674 --> 00:02:51,274 Speaker 3: photographers there that were like in the pit when a 65 00:02:51,354 --> 00:02:54,354 Speaker 3: runway show was happening and then running to their station 66 00:02:54,874 --> 00:02:57,754 Speaker 3: to upload the photos to like Getty or wherever they're 67 00:02:57,794 --> 00:03:01,194 Speaker 3: uploading them to, to file them, and I just think, wow, intense. Anyway, 68 00:03:01,194 --> 00:03:04,233 Speaker 3: what a segue from a style inspiration point of view? 69 00:03:04,274 --> 00:03:06,194 Speaker 3: Like to come back to this question, like what do 70 00:03:06,234 --> 00:03:06,834 Speaker 3: you get out of that? 71 00:03:07,514 --> 00:03:10,114 Speaker 2: It's staying on top of the fashion weeks and the 72 00:03:10,154 --> 00:03:12,594 Speaker 2: major fashion houses to see what they're coming out with. 73 00:03:12,634 --> 00:03:14,594 Speaker 2: In terms of trends, and I love to see also 74 00:03:14,714 --> 00:03:17,394 Speaker 2: just what the editors are writing about as well. So 75 00:03:17,434 --> 00:03:19,954 Speaker 2: it's really a place to stay up to date. Where 76 00:03:19,994 --> 00:03:22,234 Speaker 2: the next two I'm going to mention one is tag 77 00:03:22,354 --> 00:03:25,234 Speaker 2: Walk which shows a lot of the trends and reporting, 78 00:03:25,554 --> 00:03:28,754 Speaker 2: and another one is First Few. So these ones, again 79 00:03:28,954 --> 00:03:31,034 Speaker 2: you have to pay subscription. Have you heard of these ones? 80 00:03:31,074 --> 00:03:33,474 Speaker 3: Tom, I've heard of them, but don't. I don't subscribe, 81 00:03:33,474 --> 00:03:35,594 Speaker 3: but I want to. Maybe you can get me over 82 00:03:35,674 --> 00:03:36,074 Speaker 3: the line. 83 00:03:36,114 --> 00:03:40,474 Speaker 2: So I used to work for an agency called Eskimo 84 00:03:40,554 --> 00:03:42,474 Speaker 2: and it was really nice practice they made us do. 85 00:03:42,634 --> 00:03:45,154 Speaker 2: It was working with Australian fashion designers and doing their 86 00:03:45,154 --> 00:03:48,474 Speaker 2: creative every hour at the beginning of each day, we'd 87 00:03:48,594 --> 00:03:50,754 Speaker 2: have to look through all of these websites and it 88 00:03:50,794 --> 00:03:52,394 Speaker 2: was part of what we'd have to do. And I think, 89 00:03:52,634 --> 00:03:54,714 Speaker 2: so what a luxury that that was what we're paid 90 00:03:54,754 --> 00:03:54,954 Speaker 2: to do. 91 00:03:55,114 --> 00:03:58,394 Speaker 3: It's research, and that's something that I think is really 92 00:03:58,434 --> 00:04:03,034 Speaker 3: often missing from the conversation around like social media content 93 00:04:03,154 --> 00:04:05,874 Speaker 3: is just like experts doing the research and coming back 94 00:04:05,914 --> 00:04:09,354 Speaker 3: with their findings and their like. We're increasingly seeing more 95 00:04:09,754 --> 00:04:12,634 Speaker 3: outlets on social media that actually have the data to 96 00:04:12,714 --> 00:04:15,834 Speaker 3: back up their opinions that's right, and what they're forecasting 97 00:04:15,834 --> 00:04:17,794 Speaker 3: and whatnot, and those are the sources that I tend 98 00:04:17,873 --> 00:04:18,874 Speaker 3: to trust. 99 00:04:18,634 --> 00:04:21,753 Speaker 2: More absolutely, So if you're interested, Yeah, tag Walk and 100 00:04:21,834 --> 00:04:25,193 Speaker 2: First Few. I use First Few more for street style. 101 00:04:25,354 --> 00:04:28,873 Speaker 2: But it's actually the largest runway collection archives. I didn't 102 00:04:28,873 --> 00:04:32,034 Speaker 2: know that, and it launched in nineteen ninety five by 103 00:04:32,034 --> 00:04:34,234 Speaker 2: two fashion photographers. Like what you were saying, but they've 104 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:38,593 Speaker 2: just curated this amazing online archives. So you can type 105 00:04:38,594 --> 00:04:41,514 Speaker 2: in any designer or a year and you can look 106 00:04:41,553 --> 00:04:43,113 Speaker 2: at what their collection was. 107 00:04:43,154 --> 00:04:43,514 Speaker 3: Wow. 108 00:04:43,714 --> 00:04:46,753 Speaker 2: Good resource. This next one is a little bit rogue, 109 00:04:46,753 --> 00:04:51,113 Speaker 2: but I love Getty Images. If you just type in 110 00:04:51,193 --> 00:04:54,393 Speaker 2: fashion editorial, you get to see a lot of events 111 00:04:54,393 --> 00:04:57,154 Speaker 2: that have been happening around the world. So, for example, 112 00:04:57,794 --> 00:05:01,113 Speaker 2: there was recently the Tiffany and Co Blue Gala Nite, 113 00:05:01,154 --> 00:05:04,153 Speaker 2: So you can see what celebrities and influencers are wearing. 114 00:05:04,474 --> 00:05:06,234 Speaker 2: And it's almost like what you were saying, it's before 115 00:05:06,274 --> 00:05:08,833 Speaker 2: it hits social So not only is that sort of 116 00:05:08,834 --> 00:05:11,833 Speaker 2: interesting because you're seeing all these untouched photos of celebrities, 117 00:05:12,073 --> 00:05:14,273 Speaker 2: but you get a real you can see what they're wearing. 118 00:05:14,433 --> 00:05:16,713 Speaker 2: You don't always see the photos that make it to Instagram, 119 00:05:16,753 --> 00:05:18,954 Speaker 2: so what people are wearing, what they were styled in, 120 00:05:19,354 --> 00:05:22,393 Speaker 2: and they've obviously had stylists style them for those events, 121 00:05:22,433 --> 00:05:24,073 Speaker 2: so you can get little tipfits from there. 122 00:05:24,354 --> 00:05:27,274 Speaker 3: On that point, I'm going to throw in there, looking 123 00:05:27,354 --> 00:05:31,714 Speaker 3: to celebrity stylists on Instagram rather than the celebrities themselves. 124 00:05:32,113 --> 00:05:34,553 Speaker 3: I think you know the orchestrators of these looks that 125 00:05:34,594 --> 00:05:36,833 Speaker 3: you're seeing When you see Hayley Bebers step out for 126 00:05:36,873 --> 00:05:40,154 Speaker 3: an event or even in her casual street style Kendall Jenner, 127 00:05:40,393 --> 00:05:42,433 Speaker 3: did you know that they're styled by the same person, 128 00:05:42,553 --> 00:05:45,194 Speaker 3: the same person, and that is Danny Michelle, an LA 129 00:05:45,274 --> 00:05:49,354 Speaker 3: based stylist. Danny herself has incredible personal style and her 130 00:05:49,433 --> 00:05:52,953 Speaker 3: Instagram is a mix of both, so she showcases mostly 131 00:05:52,993 --> 00:05:55,474 Speaker 3: her clients looks, but also some of her own stuff 132 00:05:55,474 --> 00:05:57,514 Speaker 3: and what she's seeing. And I just love a little 133 00:05:57,513 --> 00:06:01,154 Speaker 3: peek behind the curtain of what the stylists, the image creators. 134 00:06:01,633 --> 00:06:01,993 Speaker 4: What is it? 135 00:06:02,154 --> 00:06:02,753 Speaker 1: Law Roach? 136 00:06:02,873 --> 00:06:04,834 Speaker 3: I've been watching Project Rightway, I've been catching up for 137 00:06:04,873 --> 00:06:08,033 Speaker 3: the latest season, and law Roach calls himself an email architect. 138 00:06:08,513 --> 00:06:09,994 Speaker 1: That's what he branded himself as. 139 00:06:10,034 --> 00:06:13,394 Speaker 3: And I like to think that's because like understandably, you're 140 00:06:13,433 --> 00:06:16,194 Speaker 3: not just a stylist pulling clothes. He is the architect 141 00:06:16,193 --> 00:06:19,313 Speaker 3: behind Zendaya's image. So isn't that an interesting thing to 142 00:06:19,313 --> 00:06:19,914 Speaker 3: have access to? 143 00:06:20,034 --> 00:06:22,714 Speaker 2: Where do you find these stylists? So if you love 144 00:06:22,794 --> 00:06:24,553 Speaker 2: someone's style, how do you Is it just a bit 145 00:06:24,633 --> 00:06:25,553 Speaker 2: quick Google search? 146 00:06:25,834 --> 00:06:28,234 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Google search, like I think, so like 147 00:06:28,274 --> 00:06:31,073 Speaker 3: you can kind of reverse engineer that question, like you 148 00:06:31,113 --> 00:06:34,474 Speaker 3: could go, Okay, I really like Zoe Kravitz's style. Danielle 149 00:06:34,474 --> 00:06:37,513 Speaker 3: Goldberg is her stylist, and she also looks after Greta Lee. 150 00:06:37,953 --> 00:06:40,474 Speaker 3: So that's an interesting thing in itself because you might 151 00:06:40,474 --> 00:06:43,274 Speaker 3: gravitate towards a certain celebrity style or a certain group 152 00:06:43,313 --> 00:06:46,234 Speaker 3: of celebrities, like I said, Haley and Kendall, and then 153 00:06:46,313 --> 00:06:48,393 Speaker 3: realize that those two it girls are style by the 154 00:06:48,393 --> 00:06:51,474 Speaker 3: same person. So who's the person making those decisions about 155 00:06:51,474 --> 00:06:54,314 Speaker 3: what they wear on a casual level, on an elevated 156 00:06:54,474 --> 00:06:57,953 Speaker 3: red carpet level. You know, just having a look at 157 00:06:58,034 --> 00:06:59,873 Speaker 3: whose style you resonate. 158 00:06:59,474 --> 00:07:02,794 Speaker 2: With, you do forget that the photos that you see 159 00:07:02,834 --> 00:07:05,394 Speaker 2: of them on the street grabbing sushi, they are styled 160 00:07:05,674 --> 00:07:06,513 Speaker 2: nine times out. 161 00:07:06,354 --> 00:07:07,633 Speaker 1: Of ten exactly. I wonder. 162 00:07:07,674 --> 00:07:10,593 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a whole slew of celebrities who aren't 163 00:07:10,634 --> 00:07:13,754 Speaker 3: who their take like iconically. Chloe seven years is one. 164 00:07:13,994 --> 00:07:15,874 Speaker 3: I'm sure she has a stylist that works with her, 165 00:07:15,874 --> 00:07:18,713 Speaker 3: but she creates most of her own looks. Blake Lively 166 00:07:18,794 --> 00:07:21,473 Speaker 3: styles herself. So those are the celebrities where you go 167 00:07:21,514 --> 00:07:22,314 Speaker 3: straight to the source. 168 00:07:22,354 --> 00:07:25,314 Speaker 2: But yeah, love that My next one. I do get 169 00:07:25,354 --> 00:07:28,714 Speaker 2: asked a lot about where I do get trend reports 170 00:07:28,754 --> 00:07:32,554 Speaker 2: from WGSN is one of the major ones. I used 171 00:07:32,594 --> 00:07:35,234 Speaker 2: to work for a console agency that would provide this 172 00:07:35,354 --> 00:07:39,074 Speaker 2: data to WGSN. They don't just focus in fashion. It's 173 00:07:39,154 --> 00:07:42,554 Speaker 2: all an array of different categories. Again, you do have 174 00:07:42,594 --> 00:07:45,674 Speaker 2: to pay a subscription, but they do have a free vlog. 175 00:07:45,994 --> 00:07:48,114 Speaker 1: Do you use this at all occasionally? 176 00:07:48,274 --> 00:07:52,074 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, good. It's if you're interested in colors trends. 177 00:07:52,114 --> 00:07:54,554 Speaker 2: Maybe you've got your own business so you're just curious 178 00:07:54,554 --> 00:07:57,434 Speaker 2: about what's coming out next year. It's a really great website. 179 00:07:57,474 --> 00:08:01,034 Speaker 2: It's really resourceful and even just that free access because 180 00:08:01,034 --> 00:08:03,874 Speaker 2: it is quite expensive, but you can see it shows 181 00:08:03,914 --> 00:08:06,874 Speaker 2: like the Mocker Moose this color, but next year they'll 182 00:08:06,914 --> 00:08:10,273 Speaker 2: talk about transformative teal as a color, So it show 183 00:08:10,434 --> 00:08:11,514 Speaker 2: has a lot of that information. 184 00:08:11,594 --> 00:08:14,634 Speaker 3: What about list indexs because that's free. That's a really 185 00:08:14,634 --> 00:08:17,034 Speaker 3: good resource that I use as well. It breaks down 186 00:08:17,074 --> 00:08:19,754 Speaker 3: I did. I have a fashion newsletter and I recently 187 00:08:19,754 --> 00:08:22,393 Speaker 3: dedicated a post to like the top ten items that 188 00:08:22,434 --> 00:08:26,394 Speaker 3: the list index had said were the key trending items 189 00:08:26,474 --> 00:08:29,674 Speaker 3: across fashion. And they do a quarterly report where they 190 00:08:29,714 --> 00:08:33,114 Speaker 3: share what brands and movers and shakers in the industry, 191 00:08:33,154 --> 00:08:35,154 Speaker 3: which ones are on top, which ones are falling. It's 192 00:08:35,154 --> 00:08:38,954 Speaker 3: like a ranking of designers and pieces, taste makers, that 193 00:08:39,034 --> 00:08:40,634 Speaker 3: kind of thing. And that's a really good just like 194 00:08:40,714 --> 00:08:43,474 Speaker 3: cheat sheet. Say you're just kind of starting your journey. 195 00:08:43,674 --> 00:08:46,554 Speaker 2: So there's these websites and apps, but there is also 196 00:08:46,594 --> 00:08:51,314 Speaker 2: I still love Instagram and Pinterest. It's just that doing 197 00:08:51,354 --> 00:08:53,554 Speaker 2: scrolling that you can get into and I do find 198 00:08:53,594 --> 00:08:55,154 Speaker 2: it can get a little bit same same. So if 199 00:08:55,194 --> 00:08:56,994 Speaker 2: you just sort of I feel like, if you've got 200 00:08:57,034 --> 00:08:59,594 Speaker 2: a long game with an event, so maybe it is 201 00:08:59,834 --> 00:09:02,594 Speaker 2: your thirtieth, your fortieth, and you think what do I 202 00:09:02,634 --> 00:09:04,834 Speaker 2: want to wear? What who do I want to be 203 00:09:04,874 --> 00:09:06,714 Speaker 2: at that event? You could sort of look around at 204 00:09:06,714 --> 00:09:09,274 Speaker 2: these trends reports or first few and kind of like 205 00:09:09,674 --> 00:09:11,434 Speaker 2: curate your own outfit. 206 00:09:11,714 --> 00:09:15,594 Speaker 3: Definitely another one I'm finding increasingly that I look to 207 00:09:15,914 --> 00:09:21,634 Speaker 3: taste makers on substack as a platform rather than going 208 00:09:21,674 --> 00:09:24,394 Speaker 3: straight to Instagram, Like Instagram will always be the go 209 00:09:24,474 --> 00:09:27,114 Speaker 3: to for me, but on substack, you know you can. 210 00:09:27,274 --> 00:09:30,634 Speaker 3: These creators are delving a little bit deeper into what's 211 00:09:30,674 --> 00:09:34,274 Speaker 3: behind the trends that they're wearing rather than just sharing 212 00:09:34,314 --> 00:09:37,994 Speaker 3: outfits on Instagram without context or commentary. And I know 213 00:09:38,114 --> 00:09:41,594 Speaker 3: on Instagram the algorithm is favoring more commentary. They want 214 00:09:41,594 --> 00:09:44,914 Speaker 3: to see more about why people are wearing certain things 215 00:09:44,954 --> 00:09:48,354 Speaker 3: when it comes to fashion, more explanation. So substack goes 216 00:09:48,354 --> 00:09:50,554 Speaker 3: really deep into it, and you know, it just feels 217 00:09:50,594 --> 00:09:53,354 Speaker 3: more authentic because it's their platform that they own to 218 00:09:53,394 --> 00:09:54,434 Speaker 3: share their opinions. 219 00:09:54,514 --> 00:09:57,074 Speaker 2: And once you subscribe to any substats, because I'm pretty 220 00:09:57,114 --> 00:09:58,914 Speaker 2: bad with substect, I want to get more into it, 221 00:09:58,954 --> 00:10:00,194 Speaker 2: but I just haven't yet. 222 00:10:00,314 --> 00:10:03,274 Speaker 3: So how do Yeah, I subscribe to a handful because 223 00:10:03,314 --> 00:10:05,594 Speaker 3: I don't want to overwhelm my inbox with too many, 224 00:10:05,954 --> 00:10:08,234 Speaker 3: and I just there certain ones that I just I 225 00:10:08,274 --> 00:10:11,754 Speaker 3: read every single edition. So the examples are Alison Bornstein. 226 00:10:11,954 --> 00:10:17,194 Speaker 3: She is my numer Uno style inspiration, not just because 227 00:10:17,234 --> 00:10:19,194 Speaker 3: of what she wears, She's a stylist. I should say, 228 00:10:19,234 --> 00:10:21,434 Speaker 3: based in la and New York. She's also an author, 229 00:10:21,554 --> 00:10:23,674 Speaker 3: and she's the woman who, for anyone who doesn't know, 230 00:10:24,354 --> 00:10:28,554 Speaker 3: coined the wrong Shoe theory and the three word method, 231 00:10:28,594 --> 00:10:31,114 Speaker 3: which are like very much in the in the sort 232 00:10:31,154 --> 00:10:34,114 Speaker 3: of fashion lexicon now in terms of how people approach 233 00:10:34,234 --> 00:10:38,274 Speaker 3: styling themselves with the three words that describe your style 234 00:10:38,314 --> 00:10:42,274 Speaker 3: identity right. Alison is amazing and her newsletter on substack 235 00:10:42,434 --> 00:10:44,994 Speaker 3: is just such a great resource that breaks down the 236 00:10:45,034 --> 00:10:48,634 Speaker 3: origin of trends. She's like an oracle that kind of 237 00:10:48,994 --> 00:10:50,714 Speaker 3: a bit like you and that you sort of like 238 00:10:50,754 --> 00:10:52,914 Speaker 3: to see where the where fashion is coming from and 239 00:10:52,954 --> 00:10:55,834 Speaker 3: what's coming through. She really kind of tells the story, 240 00:10:55,834 --> 00:10:57,914 Speaker 3: but also just in a way that I really I 241 00:10:57,954 --> 00:11:00,634 Speaker 3: really vibe with, Like I love her look. She's very 242 00:11:00,634 --> 00:11:03,714 Speaker 3: inspired by similar people, like the Awson Twins and like 243 00:11:03,834 --> 00:11:06,714 Speaker 3: you know, like certain girls from different eras that I'm like, yeah, 244 00:11:06,714 --> 00:11:09,314 Speaker 3: that's me, and I think if you just find those people. 245 00:11:09,354 --> 00:11:12,394 Speaker 3: Another really good one is Leandro Medine Cohen. She used 246 00:11:12,434 --> 00:11:14,554 Speaker 3: to have a platform called The Man Repeller, and that's 247 00:11:14,594 --> 00:11:16,514 Speaker 3: how she rose to fame in the early days of 248 00:11:16,554 --> 00:11:20,234 Speaker 3: like Instagram and blogging, and now she runs her own 249 00:11:20,594 --> 00:11:22,874 Speaker 3: I guess sort of media. She's got her own kind 250 00:11:22,914 --> 00:11:27,314 Speaker 3: of footprint on media, but her substack is basically just like, 251 00:11:27,354 --> 00:11:31,274 Speaker 3: sometimes she'll really go into what she's wearing, and she'll 252 00:11:31,354 --> 00:11:33,994 Speaker 3: give like a really long explanation for the inspiration behind 253 00:11:33,994 --> 00:11:36,154 Speaker 3: the look and what she's vibing with. And then sometimes 254 00:11:36,194 --> 00:11:38,914 Speaker 3: she'll just do like his forty outfits of me wearing 255 00:11:38,994 --> 00:11:41,634 Speaker 3: jeans in different ways or forty ways I'm interpreting this 256 00:11:41,754 --> 00:11:45,434 Speaker 3: necklace trend or something. It's so like it's nerdy fashion, 257 00:11:45,514 --> 00:11:46,274 Speaker 3: but I love it. 258 00:11:46,794 --> 00:11:49,274 Speaker 2: Yeah, following people like Leandro where it is a bit 259 00:11:49,354 --> 00:11:52,314 Speaker 2: out there, so you're not necessarily gonna wear it day 260 00:11:52,354 --> 00:11:54,674 Speaker 2: to day, but you can get little tips and inspiration. 261 00:11:54,914 --> 00:11:57,714 Speaker 3: Yeah, Cherry pick the bits you because she's very extreme 262 00:11:57,754 --> 00:12:00,354 Speaker 3: and experimental. But you can just take Okay, she's wearing 263 00:12:00,434 --> 00:12:03,234 Speaker 3: that certain necklace. I can I can wear that necklace 264 00:12:03,234 --> 00:12:04,714 Speaker 3: in this way. It doesn't have to be in But 265 00:12:04,834 --> 00:12:07,034 Speaker 3: she's like a very early adopter of trends, if not 266 00:12:07,194 --> 00:12:08,634 Speaker 3: the instigator of totally. 267 00:12:09,074 --> 00:12:12,154 Speaker 2: And then there's some tastemakers or influencers that I feel 268 00:12:12,194 --> 00:12:14,994 Speaker 2: are very much aligned with how I dress, So I 269 00:12:15,074 --> 00:12:17,234 Speaker 2: love following them for that sort of day to day 270 00:12:17,314 --> 00:12:21,554 Speaker 2: and sometimes outside of Australia and Australian influencers as well, 271 00:12:21,594 --> 00:12:24,714 Speaker 2: because I get like it's a lot of influencers are 272 00:12:24,714 --> 00:12:27,154 Speaker 2: wearing the same outfit or they've all been gifted them. 273 00:12:27,514 --> 00:12:30,514 Speaker 1: Yes, so true. 274 00:12:30,994 --> 00:12:34,314 Speaker 2: She's sometimes interesting to see how they've styled that particular dress. 275 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:37,794 Speaker 2: But it is nice just looking outside of our Australian zone. 276 00:12:37,794 --> 00:12:39,554 Speaker 3: For you, who's your like? Okay, if we have to 277 00:12:39,554 --> 00:12:41,474 Speaker 3: wrap this up, like who are your top three that 278 00:12:41,514 --> 00:12:43,434 Speaker 3: you go to? Maybe we could each list are like 279 00:12:43,514 --> 00:12:44,794 Speaker 3: faves at the moment. 280 00:12:44,834 --> 00:12:49,114 Speaker 2: I love Rocky Barnes for I love how she plays 281 00:12:49,154 --> 00:12:51,593 Speaker 2: with color, so she's an LA based influencer. 282 00:12:52,074 --> 00:12:53,794 Speaker 1: I love Sincerely Jewels. 283 00:12:53,914 --> 00:12:56,154 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you look a little bit like her. 284 00:12:56,194 --> 00:12:58,114 Speaker 3: Oh that's god, that's the most flattering that you've ever 285 00:12:58,154 --> 00:12:58,514 Speaker 3: said to me. 286 00:12:58,594 --> 00:12:59,434 Speaker 1: I'll take it. 287 00:12:59,834 --> 00:13:04,154 Speaker 3: No, Sincerely Jewels, she's just she's petite brunette, but it's 288 00:13:04,194 --> 00:13:06,434 Speaker 3: more like the way that she I don't know. If 289 00:13:06,474 --> 00:13:09,754 Speaker 3: you align with someone's taste level and their style, it's 290 00:13:09,794 --> 00:13:11,914 Speaker 3: a really great thing to be able to have them 291 00:13:12,034 --> 00:13:13,994 Speaker 3: as a resource, like I said, to go to when 292 00:13:14,034 --> 00:13:16,034 Speaker 3: you need inspiration, Like for me, if I can't get 293 00:13:16,114 --> 00:13:17,754 Speaker 3: dressed in the morning. Sometimes I'll just go to her 294 00:13:17,794 --> 00:13:19,514 Speaker 3: page and be like, what's she wearing? You're going to 295 00:13:19,554 --> 00:13:20,834 Speaker 3: get an idea from that. 296 00:13:20,794 --> 00:13:22,834 Speaker 2: And like what you said, it's almost like a similar 297 00:13:22,914 --> 00:13:25,234 Speaker 2: physique helps as well. It does help so you can 298 00:13:25,274 --> 00:13:27,394 Speaker 2: see what it's going to look like on them. Definitely 299 00:13:27,554 --> 00:13:30,194 Speaker 2: on home soil, I do like pitt Edwards because she's 300 00:13:30,234 --> 00:13:32,833 Speaker 2: got that sort of sporty chic aesthetic that I be. 301 00:13:32,914 --> 00:13:36,074 Speaker 3: So you yeah, yeah, you're so similar. I get that completely, 302 00:13:36,074 --> 00:13:37,074 Speaker 3: but there's that alignment. 303 00:13:37,194 --> 00:13:37,434 Speaker 2: Right. 304 00:13:38,114 --> 00:13:41,314 Speaker 3: Next question, how am I meant to look after my clothes? 305 00:13:41,394 --> 00:13:45,194 Speaker 3: I invest in better quality pieces, but they still depreciate 306 00:13:45,274 --> 00:13:47,554 Speaker 3: at the same rate as my cheapest stuff. 307 00:13:47,994 --> 00:13:48,274 Speaker 1: Help. 308 00:13:49,434 --> 00:13:52,754 Speaker 2: So I love this question because sometimes you are if 309 00:13:52,754 --> 00:13:54,954 Speaker 2: you buy something more expensive, it is for the brand 310 00:13:54,994 --> 00:13:58,594 Speaker 2: and the logo. Right fair, Let's think about why it 311 00:13:58,794 --> 00:14:01,514 Speaker 2: is more expensive. What makes something more expensive, And it 312 00:14:01,554 --> 00:14:05,074 Speaker 2: could be the fabric quality, so whether it's like natural fibers, 313 00:14:05,074 --> 00:14:07,074 Speaker 2: et cetera, so that should be lasting longer and not 314 00:14:07,234 --> 00:14:10,314 Speaker 2: say smelling as much, the fabric weight, so the thickness 315 00:14:10,354 --> 00:14:14,114 Speaker 2: of the cotton construction. Like I always find zippers on 316 00:14:14,194 --> 00:14:16,234 Speaker 2: the cheap things break really easily. 317 00:14:16,314 --> 00:14:17,834 Speaker 1: Did you see that video? From. I think it was 318 00:14:17,874 --> 00:14:18,514 Speaker 1: wisdom K. 319 00:14:18,714 --> 00:14:22,194 Speaker 3: Should we talk about this briefly because to that point, 320 00:14:22,554 --> 00:14:27,954 Speaker 3: wisdom K is a huge men's fashion million blogger. Yeah yeah, 321 00:14:27,994 --> 00:14:31,634 Speaker 3: he blocked blogger, huge men's fashion influencer and taste maker. 322 00:14:31,674 --> 00:14:35,754 Speaker 3: And he posted a video where he had some new 323 00:14:35,794 --> 00:14:38,554 Speaker 3: pieces that he ordered from Mew. Mew, which is the 324 00:14:38,714 --> 00:14:40,674 Speaker 3: top fashion brand in the world right now according to 325 00:14:40,754 --> 00:14:44,434 Speaker 3: the list Index and is obviously like high in luxury fashion. 326 00:14:44,954 --> 00:14:47,394 Speaker 3: And I think it was a jacket where the button, 327 00:14:47,954 --> 00:14:48,954 Speaker 3: one of the buttons. 328 00:14:48,674 --> 00:14:49,914 Speaker 1: Came off when he tried it on. 329 00:14:49,994 --> 00:14:51,474 Speaker 3: He was doing like a let me show you what 330 00:14:51,514 --> 00:14:53,594 Speaker 3: I bought, and it came off, And then just to 331 00:14:54,154 --> 00:14:56,994 Speaker 3: just to kind of see if it was that particular 332 00:14:57,074 --> 00:15:00,834 Speaker 3: garment or it was a fault with the style or 333 00:15:00,834 --> 00:15:03,474 Speaker 3: the brand at large in how they're making things, he 334 00:15:03,594 --> 00:15:06,674 Speaker 3: ordered it again and the same thing happened. 335 00:15:07,234 --> 00:15:09,074 Speaker 2: Unbelievable, I can't believe. 336 00:15:09,074 --> 00:15:13,434 Speaker 3: Which not very good for me, so not necessarily the 337 00:15:13,514 --> 00:15:15,994 Speaker 3: whole designer clothes, but for the most part, like that's 338 00:15:15,994 --> 00:15:17,634 Speaker 3: a bit of an out there example, like for the 339 00:15:17,674 --> 00:15:19,914 Speaker 3: most part better quality, And I still don't know. 340 00:15:19,834 --> 00:15:21,394 Speaker 2: Where that ended up. I'd love to go back into 341 00:15:21,394 --> 00:15:23,474 Speaker 2: his page see what happened and how they did, how 342 00:15:23,594 --> 00:15:29,594 Speaker 2: they pr themselves. But stitching as well as like Kate 343 00:15:29,714 --> 00:15:33,394 Speaker 2: with their cardigan, their scarlet cardigan, you know that iconic. 344 00:15:34,114 --> 00:15:37,394 Speaker 1: Kh A T either high end New York. 345 00:15:37,314 --> 00:15:40,354 Speaker 2: That brand. Yeah, and it was Katie Holmes who was 346 00:15:40,394 --> 00:15:43,474 Speaker 2: wearing the scarlet cardigan. I have a little brawlin underneath 347 00:15:43,474 --> 00:15:46,274 Speaker 2: it made it viral, So she's no one for doing 348 00:15:46,314 --> 00:15:49,434 Speaker 2: this double stitch on this cardigan. So that quality, they're 349 00:15:49,514 --> 00:15:51,834 Speaker 2: the stitching because some cardigans I own, like I've got 350 00:15:51,874 --> 00:15:55,794 Speaker 2: a couple from Uniclo that just don't have that quality 351 00:15:55,794 --> 00:15:57,634 Speaker 2: and they stretch out and things like that. So I 352 00:15:57,674 --> 00:16:00,314 Speaker 2: guess all in all, just saying these things are kind 353 00:16:00,354 --> 00:16:03,714 Speaker 2: of what makes something better quality and that's why you're 354 00:16:03,714 --> 00:16:05,714 Speaker 2: paying that price point. But then how do you look 355 00:16:05,754 --> 00:16:08,554 Speaker 2: after these things? My number one tip is just to 356 00:16:08,674 --> 00:16:11,274 Speaker 2: dry clean all of it and always. 357 00:16:11,074 --> 00:16:14,754 Speaker 3: Okay, what if you're the type of person who just 358 00:16:14,794 --> 00:16:16,874 Speaker 3: doesn't do you know what I mean by that? Like 359 00:16:16,914 --> 00:16:19,114 Speaker 3: you know you should dry clean your clothes, but you 360 00:16:19,274 --> 00:16:22,154 Speaker 3: just don't, because for many people that's like an extra step. 361 00:16:22,674 --> 00:16:26,074 Speaker 3: Either it's costly, it's another task. What can you do 362 00:16:26,114 --> 00:16:29,074 Speaker 3: if you're not you're not having a dry cleaning budget. 363 00:16:29,314 --> 00:16:32,394 Speaker 2: I think though on that if you're buying something, you 364 00:16:32,434 --> 00:16:33,834 Speaker 2: need a factory in that you need to get this, 365 00:16:33,994 --> 00:16:34,794 Speaker 2: get it dry. Pay. 366 00:16:34,874 --> 00:16:37,034 Speaker 3: Oh that's part of the part of the investment. My 367 00:16:37,634 --> 00:16:40,314 Speaker 3: I'm going to counter that with my top tip here, 368 00:16:40,354 --> 00:16:44,594 Speaker 3: which is so obvious. Hang them up, okay, And I'm 369 00:16:44,634 --> 00:16:48,354 Speaker 3: giving myself this advice to my closet. I don't have 370 00:16:48,394 --> 00:16:50,874 Speaker 3: a nice closet like I. It's my number one great 371 00:16:50,914 --> 00:16:52,514 Speaker 3: with my house. I love my little house, but I 372 00:16:52,594 --> 00:16:55,794 Speaker 3: do not have enough closet space. So unfortunately, basically the 373 00:16:55,834 --> 00:16:58,554 Speaker 3: way it's structured is I have two hanging cupboards, one 374 00:16:58,594 --> 00:17:00,394 Speaker 3: on either side, and then in the middle I have 375 00:17:00,474 --> 00:17:03,794 Speaker 3: my like pile of shame, and my pile of shame 376 00:17:03,954 --> 00:17:06,794 Speaker 3: is just clothes piled and stacked on top of each other. 377 00:17:06,914 --> 00:17:08,874 Speaker 3: Those are the pieces that I actually wear day and 378 00:17:08,954 --> 00:17:12,114 Speaker 3: day out, and my all my nitpants, all my T shirts. Fine, 379 00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:15,514 Speaker 3: they're all folded. They can afford to be a bit slouchy, right, yeah, 380 00:17:15,514 --> 00:17:16,914 Speaker 3: but you're nicer pieces. 381 00:17:17,594 --> 00:17:18,314 Speaker 1: Hang them up. 382 00:17:18,834 --> 00:17:20,634 Speaker 3: Don't throw them over the back of a chair, Don't 383 00:17:20,714 --> 00:17:22,434 Speaker 3: let them pile up on the ground, because that's going 384 00:17:22,474 --> 00:17:26,194 Speaker 3: to affect Like I also think when they're hanging, you 385 00:17:26,394 --> 00:17:30,074 Speaker 3: just intrinsically treat them better by virtue of the fact 386 00:17:30,074 --> 00:17:32,794 Speaker 3: that you've the hierarchy of your closet is that you've 387 00:17:32,834 --> 00:17:35,634 Speaker 3: given them place, you know, a place to hang, and 388 00:17:35,674 --> 00:17:38,194 Speaker 3: therefore it's almost like you just pay. 389 00:17:38,314 --> 00:17:41,314 Speaker 1: You're just treating them, respecting them. That's the word I 390 00:17:41,354 --> 00:17:41,954 Speaker 1: was looking for. 391 00:17:42,034 --> 00:17:43,833 Speaker 2: So yeah, if you are hanging it up, they do 392 00:17:43,954 --> 00:17:45,834 Speaker 2: say to give a bit of space as well between 393 00:17:45,834 --> 00:17:46,314 Speaker 2: each but this. 394 00:17:46,354 --> 00:17:48,714 Speaker 1: Is also it is a luxury. 395 00:17:49,114 --> 00:17:51,274 Speaker 3: Do you ever look at an influencer's wardrobe and they 396 00:17:51,274 --> 00:17:53,754 Speaker 3: share like they're like, oh, I've just updated my wardrobe 397 00:17:53,754 --> 00:17:55,394 Speaker 3: for spring, and it's like here are all my ome's 398 00:17:55,434 --> 00:17:58,273 Speaker 3: handbags and here's my huge walking closet and you're like, 399 00:17:58,434 --> 00:17:59,234 Speaker 3: nice for you. 400 00:17:59,434 --> 00:18:02,114 Speaker 2: Yeah. Back to the dry cleaning, and I guess another 401 00:18:02,154 --> 00:18:04,634 Speaker 2: way around that as well. I guess spot cleaning. So 402 00:18:04,714 --> 00:18:07,994 Speaker 2: if I try, I do try and with get a 403 00:18:08,034 --> 00:18:10,234 Speaker 2: little bit more aware out of them. So, for example, 404 00:18:10,274 --> 00:18:12,994 Speaker 2: the dress I'm wearing now, hopefully I can rewear this 405 00:18:13,074 --> 00:18:15,234 Speaker 2: again like I've just been seeing in it for the podcast, 406 00:18:15,234 --> 00:18:17,634 Speaker 2: so it's not having to dry clean every time. But 407 00:18:17,714 --> 00:18:20,914 Speaker 2: also another tip is investing in a handheld steamer. 408 00:18:21,114 --> 00:18:22,754 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my god, you got one of these at 409 00:18:22,954 --> 00:18:25,714 Speaker 3: I do. I steamed my outfit this morning. I steamed 410 00:18:25,754 --> 00:18:28,994 Speaker 3: my jeans. I steamed my jeans because they just look 411 00:18:29,034 --> 00:18:31,154 Speaker 3: because when you've chucked them in a drawer or on 412 00:18:31,234 --> 00:18:33,914 Speaker 3: a pile, they get creased and they just It really 413 00:18:33,954 --> 00:18:35,434 Speaker 3: does affect the way your clothes look. 414 00:18:35,594 --> 00:18:38,594 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it makes them feel crisp, polish, that sort 415 00:18:38,594 --> 00:18:40,154 Speaker 2: of clean, the look that we were talking. 416 00:18:39,994 --> 00:18:42,154 Speaker 1: About, straight out of a straight out of a boutique. 417 00:18:42,394 --> 00:18:45,434 Speaker 3: Clean clean girl can get them clean and steam them 418 00:18:45,434 --> 00:18:46,354 Speaker 3: if you want to look clean. 419 00:18:46,434 --> 00:18:48,914 Speaker 2: But I've got one. Mine was seventy dollars from being Lee. 420 00:18:48,994 --> 00:18:50,874 Speaker 2: We can include it in the show notes. But it's 421 00:18:50,914 --> 00:18:52,754 Speaker 2: just it was so easy. You have it in the laundry, 422 00:18:52,794 --> 00:18:55,594 Speaker 2: a quick steam over. It's essentially also just a nice 423 00:18:55,674 --> 00:18:57,513 Speaker 2: easier way than getting the ironing board out of it. 424 00:18:57,634 --> 00:19:00,073 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely every gown needs a steamer. 425 00:19:08,954 --> 00:19:11,154 Speaker 2: So the next one is how do I use that 426 00:19:11,234 --> 00:19:13,794 Speaker 2: headscarf that I have in my wardrobe. It's so cute, 427 00:19:13,874 --> 00:19:15,914 Speaker 2: I just don't know how to attach it to my head. 428 00:19:16,194 --> 00:19:19,274 Speaker 2: Can I wear it as a belt or like a scarf? 429 00:19:19,354 --> 00:19:21,234 Speaker 2: Or is that out of fashion? Oh? 430 00:19:21,314 --> 00:19:23,474 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, and yes I think now is 431 00:19:23,514 --> 00:19:26,874 Speaker 3: your time. Never have headscarves had more of a moment 432 00:19:27,114 --> 00:19:27,914 Speaker 3: true right. 433 00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:30,474 Speaker 2: Everywhere at the moment. They're so chic. I love them. 434 00:19:30,794 --> 00:19:34,154 Speaker 2: We saw them all over New York Fashion Week, even 435 00:19:34,194 --> 00:19:37,354 Speaker 2: in Paris, have been everywhere, Margaret Howe, I mean. 436 00:19:37,514 --> 00:19:40,474 Speaker 3: The Celene show is a really good reference for innovative 437 00:19:40,514 --> 00:19:42,994 Speaker 3: ways to wear scarves, because can I just say Selene 438 00:19:43,034 --> 00:19:46,914 Speaker 3: by Michael Ryder. He's a designer that's taken over Selene famously, 439 00:19:47,114 --> 00:19:50,834 Speaker 3: once designed by Phoebe Filo, little fashion history lesson really 440 00:19:50,874 --> 00:19:54,074 Speaker 3: made scarves chek again and like the echo of that 441 00:19:54,194 --> 00:19:57,874 Speaker 3: has lasted decades since she exited a decade, I should say, 442 00:19:57,874 --> 00:20:00,194 Speaker 3: since she exited the brand. Michael Ryder really brought that 443 00:20:00,354 --> 00:20:03,194 Speaker 3: esthetic back. Selene is a French brand that's very much 444 00:20:03,234 --> 00:20:05,874 Speaker 3: known for I guess the look of like French women 445 00:20:05,914 --> 00:20:09,634 Speaker 3: wearing scarf like it goes back to Ermes and the Twilly, 446 00:20:09,794 --> 00:20:11,954 Speaker 3: the iconic Twilly. But these are brands that really know 447 00:20:12,034 --> 00:20:14,954 Speaker 3: how to show you and demonstrate how to integrate a 448 00:20:14,994 --> 00:20:17,354 Speaker 3: scarf into your look in a way that feels effortless 449 00:20:17,354 --> 00:20:19,154 Speaker 3: and polished rather than like costume. 450 00:20:19,154 --> 00:20:22,354 Speaker 2: Me totally, and they are so timeless and evergreen. Like 451 00:20:22,394 --> 00:20:24,194 Speaker 2: you said, like, I'm sure lots of us have that 452 00:20:24,274 --> 00:20:27,474 Speaker 2: scarf sitting in the wardrobe. It's just like almost like 453 00:20:27,554 --> 00:20:30,474 Speaker 2: do you feel game enough or confident enough to include it? 454 00:20:30,794 --> 00:20:33,074 Speaker 3: That is so true, because can I just say, oh 455 00:20:33,074 --> 00:20:35,394 Speaker 3: my gosh, such a good point. I am more of 456 00:20:35,434 --> 00:20:38,313 Speaker 3: a bandanner person than a scarf person. I've always like, 457 00:20:38,354 --> 00:20:40,474 Speaker 3: not just because they're on trend now, but always had 458 00:20:40,474 --> 00:20:42,874 Speaker 3: bandanas in my wardrobe. And I mean like the little 459 00:20:42,954 --> 00:20:45,553 Speaker 3: red one or the little black one with a bandanna print, 460 00:20:45,834 --> 00:20:49,034 Speaker 3: and it's something that when you say do you feel 461 00:20:49,034 --> 00:20:52,274 Speaker 3: game enough? I always like the look of Like when 462 00:20:52,314 --> 00:20:54,994 Speaker 3: I make the effort to include the bandanna in my outfit, 463 00:20:55,034 --> 00:20:57,634 Speaker 3: I'll always wear like I'll wrap it over like so 464 00:20:57,754 --> 00:21:00,514 Speaker 3: it's almost like wearing it like a choker around my neck, 465 00:21:00,834 --> 00:21:03,794 Speaker 3: and it always makes my outfit look better. But sometimes 466 00:21:03,874 --> 00:21:06,474 Speaker 3: something stops me at the door that goes to extra. 467 00:21:06,274 --> 00:21:09,714 Speaker 1: Yes, too much in that take it off and then I'll. 468 00:21:09,594 --> 00:21:12,994 Speaker 3: Put it on my bag or something instead of just 469 00:21:13,234 --> 00:21:15,354 Speaker 3: having the confidence to wear it around my neck. But 470 00:21:15,394 --> 00:21:17,474 Speaker 3: the times that I have worn it around my neck, 471 00:21:17,714 --> 00:21:20,314 Speaker 3: I've had compliments about my outfit all day. 472 00:21:20,194 --> 00:21:22,954 Speaker 2: Every day, So I think that's we should both If 473 00:21:22,954 --> 00:21:25,154 Speaker 2: we're both feeling like that, we just need to accept it. 474 00:21:25,234 --> 00:21:26,954 Speaker 2: I think this is like you said, it's our time 475 00:21:27,034 --> 00:21:28,994 Speaker 2: to start wearing them. It's a bit of a flex 476 00:21:29,074 --> 00:21:30,394 Speaker 2: and just do it. 477 00:21:30,474 --> 00:21:31,314 Speaker 1: So how do you wear that? 478 00:21:31,554 --> 00:21:34,554 Speaker 2: Well? I think there's like five different ways. There's the classic, 479 00:21:34,914 --> 00:21:37,754 Speaker 2: like you were saying ten that next scuff, whether it 480 00:21:37,794 --> 00:21:40,034 Speaker 2: be sort of spun around to make like a thin 481 00:21:40,154 --> 00:21:44,434 Speaker 2: sort of band, all that sort of classic French way. 482 00:21:44,954 --> 00:21:46,114 Speaker 1: What's the classic French way? 483 00:21:46,314 --> 00:21:48,674 Speaker 2: I think just having the tie at the front and 484 00:21:48,714 --> 00:21:51,194 Speaker 2: sort of tied and sitting to the side a little bit. 485 00:21:51,194 --> 00:21:53,194 Speaker 3: That's such, like I said, a flex, because for me, 486 00:21:53,234 --> 00:21:56,074 Speaker 3: it always reads a little bit like air host DESSI 487 00:21:57,274 --> 00:21:59,234 Speaker 3: not always. 488 00:21:58,634 --> 00:22:00,513 Speaker 2: It can feel costume or you're trying to be like 489 00:22:00,514 --> 00:22:02,754 Speaker 2: you just got back from Paris or something. Want you 490 00:22:02,794 --> 00:22:03,634 Speaker 2: to hear in Paris. 491 00:22:03,674 --> 00:22:06,914 Speaker 3: Emily in Paris, she would she would wear it that way. 492 00:22:07,274 --> 00:22:10,434 Speaker 2: But I also love the headscarf, so I'm so I 493 00:22:10,474 --> 00:22:13,073 Speaker 2: wore one on my head on the weekend. But it 494 00:22:13,114 --> 00:22:16,154 Speaker 2: can feel piraty. No, they look so good on you. 495 00:22:16,274 --> 00:22:19,234 Speaker 2: But I tried this the other day. I tried it. 496 00:22:19,394 --> 00:22:23,154 Speaker 4: My husband was like, what do you like? Who do 497 00:22:23,194 --> 00:22:24,954 Speaker 4: you think you are? And I was like, I'm trying 498 00:22:24,994 --> 00:22:25,714 Speaker 4: to be cool. 499 00:22:25,514 --> 00:22:27,434 Speaker 1: Babe, and I took it straight off my head. 500 00:22:27,914 --> 00:22:30,754 Speaker 2: For anyone listening who has one and wants to try 501 00:22:30,834 --> 00:22:34,074 Speaker 2: get assistants actually tying it at the back, I think 502 00:22:34,194 --> 00:22:37,313 Speaker 2: so doing like fold it into a triangle, tied up 503 00:22:37,314 --> 00:22:39,474 Speaker 2: at the back, but just like get help tucking in 504 00:22:39,554 --> 00:22:42,154 Speaker 2: that bit, so there's not the big fly away bandana. 505 00:22:42,234 --> 00:22:44,394 Speaker 3: Look, do you have it so some of your hair 506 00:22:44,474 --> 00:22:46,674 Speaker 3: your part is visible or is it over the front. 507 00:22:46,514 --> 00:22:49,394 Speaker 2: Of your head? It's just over my part, but yeah, 508 00:22:49,434 --> 00:22:50,914 Speaker 2: it's over my head's straight. 509 00:22:50,954 --> 00:22:51,553 Speaker 1: Hair helps? 510 00:22:51,674 --> 00:22:54,754 Speaker 2: Hair help that doesn't. Yeah, so having cut hairs covering 511 00:22:54,794 --> 00:22:56,874 Speaker 2: the ears, yeah, dinner over the top. 512 00:22:56,994 --> 00:23:00,754 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we need a tutorial to take something so good. 513 00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:03,394 Speaker 3: I actually wrote an article for Mama Mea about all 514 00:23:03,394 --> 00:23:05,554 Speaker 3: the different ways that we in the office are wearing 515 00:23:05,554 --> 00:23:08,033 Speaker 3: bandanas and scarves right now and and different ways to 516 00:23:08,074 --> 00:23:09,353 Speaker 3: do it. So, hey, if you want a little bit 517 00:23:09,394 --> 00:23:12,354 Speaker 3: more further reading, love that, I'll assign you that article. 518 00:23:12,474 --> 00:23:13,874 Speaker 1: We'll maybe we'll put a link in the show. 519 00:23:13,994 --> 00:23:16,674 Speaker 2: Sounds really good. I'd actually love to read that. And also, 520 00:23:16,794 --> 00:23:18,914 Speaker 2: of course the bag accessories, like you said, that's like 521 00:23:18,954 --> 00:23:22,594 Speaker 2: the easy, low hanging fruit way to include a scarf. Yeah, 522 00:23:22,634 --> 00:23:24,874 Speaker 2: and just add some color. Do you sometimes? Fine, you 523 00:23:24,874 --> 00:23:26,674 Speaker 2: walk out the door and you've got just jeans and 524 00:23:26,674 --> 00:23:29,154 Speaker 2: a white top or something. You just want a little 525 00:23:29,194 --> 00:23:30,954 Speaker 2: bit of personality. 526 00:23:30,274 --> 00:23:32,954 Speaker 3: And every day, yeah, every day. That's why I always 527 00:23:32,994 --> 00:23:37,914 Speaker 3: have one tight around my bag handle. Next question kind 528 00:23:37,914 --> 00:23:44,033 Speaker 3: of similar point. Here are scrunchies uncool or cool? Okay, like, 529 00:23:44,434 --> 00:23:45,513 Speaker 3: where are we going with this? 530 00:23:45,514 --> 00:23:48,513 Speaker 2: This was a little bit random to be I see them. Firstly, 531 00:23:48,674 --> 00:23:51,434 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit indifferent to be honest about scrunchies, 532 00:23:53,194 --> 00:23:58,994 Speaker 2: But a scrunchies, a scrunchy, like, I do think. 533 00:23:58,794 --> 00:24:02,234 Speaker 3: That there's a lot, you know, a loaded item. Think 534 00:24:02,274 --> 00:24:06,394 Speaker 3: of that Sex and the City episode. Is that a 535 00:24:06,474 --> 00:24:07,114 Speaker 3: lost reference? 536 00:24:07,234 --> 00:24:07,914 Speaker 2: So yeah, it is. 537 00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:11,474 Speaker 3: There's Sex in the City episode where Carrie and Berger, 538 00:24:11,634 --> 00:24:14,634 Speaker 3: her ex boyfriend, are standing in line at a at 539 00:24:14,634 --> 00:24:17,994 Speaker 3: a restaurant and take away joint and Burger see someone 540 00:24:18,034 --> 00:24:21,354 Speaker 3: wearing a scrunchy and like thinks it's thinks it's stylish, 541 00:24:21,434 --> 00:24:24,314 Speaker 3: and she says Carrie goes, she like quips they're not 542 00:24:24,354 --> 00:24:27,234 Speaker 3: from New York and he goes, well, what makes you 543 00:24:27,274 --> 00:24:30,194 Speaker 3: think that? She goes because she's wearing a scrunchy, and 544 00:24:30,234 --> 00:24:33,154 Speaker 3: he goes, well, let's ask them. And then and she says, 545 00:24:33,194 --> 00:24:35,194 Speaker 3: excuse me, are you from New York? 546 00:24:35,434 --> 00:24:35,914 Speaker 4: I think? 547 00:24:36,274 --> 00:24:39,394 Speaker 3: And she goes, oh, yeah, she thinks I'm from New York. 548 00:24:41,354 --> 00:24:43,834 Speaker 3: But anyway, the point is, it's not just a scrunch 549 00:24:44,194 --> 00:24:44,954 Speaker 3: it's been a baggy. 550 00:24:45,074 --> 00:24:47,793 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I appreciate that there is some nostalgic 551 00:24:47,874 --> 00:24:50,954 Speaker 2: charm to a scrunchy, but the question being are I 552 00:24:51,194 --> 00:24:54,794 Speaker 2: uncol It's the irony is The first podcast I did 553 00:24:54,914 --> 00:24:57,314 Speaker 2: with Nothing to Wear was about what makes something cool? 554 00:24:57,634 --> 00:25:00,314 Speaker 2: And I really do think a scrunchy it's just who's 555 00:25:00,354 --> 00:25:02,594 Speaker 2: wearing it and how you style it. Yeah, what are 556 00:25:02,634 --> 00:25:05,194 Speaker 2: your favorite shoes that are comfy enough to stomp ten 557 00:25:05,234 --> 00:25:08,794 Speaker 2: thousand steps a day in that Aunt's. 558 00:25:08,794 --> 00:25:12,314 Speaker 3: Okay, This is a very subjective topic, and it's an 559 00:25:12,354 --> 00:25:16,074 Speaker 3: issue because I have said a million times. If I've 560 00:25:16,074 --> 00:25:17,754 Speaker 3: said it once, I've said it a million times. I'm 561 00:25:17,794 --> 00:25:21,194 Speaker 3: an open toe shoe person. I could comfortably be in 562 00:25:21,314 --> 00:25:24,434 Speaker 3: slides or thongs all day, every day. 563 00:25:24,314 --> 00:25:24,874 Speaker 1: And I am. 564 00:25:25,234 --> 00:25:29,234 Speaker 3: And I wrote an article for Mama Mea a few 565 00:25:29,274 --> 00:25:32,514 Speaker 3: months ago about how when I was in Europe. I 566 00:25:32,594 --> 00:25:37,154 Speaker 3: wore these, like jelly strap flats from Bellini, jelly strap 567 00:25:37,234 --> 00:25:40,434 Speaker 3: thongs all day. Every day, walked twenty thousand steps a day, 568 00:25:40,674 --> 00:25:43,954 Speaker 3: and the people came for me. They were like, irresponsible, 569 00:25:44,314 --> 00:25:46,273 Speaker 3: No you didn't. I don't believe you. And I know 570 00:25:46,354 --> 00:25:49,234 Speaker 3: I legitimately did. I have the proof on my camera 571 00:25:49,354 --> 00:25:51,954 Speaker 3: roll that I did. And they didn't break fine, and 572 00:25:51,994 --> 00:25:54,354 Speaker 3: some of them would break short. That's fine, But like 573 00:25:54,434 --> 00:25:58,234 Speaker 3: I think, it just depends what your definition of comfort is. 574 00:25:58,314 --> 00:26:01,394 Speaker 2: And I read this and defaulted to a vacation. You're 575 00:26:01,434 --> 00:26:03,273 Speaker 2: doing the steps over in Europe, but this could be 576 00:26:03,314 --> 00:26:06,033 Speaker 2: someone walking around the city, right, you might have to 577 00:26:06,074 --> 00:26:08,594 Speaker 2: wear a certain stuff is of shoe. Okay, so my 578 00:26:08,714 --> 00:26:13,954 Speaker 2: head went to, yeah, vacation shoe. I love Amez shirt FRA, 579 00:26:14,354 --> 00:26:17,553 Speaker 2: which is a sandal slash slide. These ones are obviously 580 00:26:17,634 --> 00:26:20,514 Speaker 2: quite expensive, but there's different alternatives out there. 581 00:26:20,714 --> 00:26:23,154 Speaker 3: Have you had the return on investment from buying those 582 00:26:23,714 --> 00:26:24,513 Speaker 3: thousand percent? 583 00:26:24,874 --> 00:26:29,073 Speaker 2: There my absolute go to shoe. I've walked thousands of kilometers. 584 00:26:29,554 --> 00:26:32,434 Speaker 3: They're kind of like a really extremely high end version 585 00:26:32,434 --> 00:26:34,594 Speaker 3: of a Birkenstock. That's I just want to make the 586 00:26:34,634 --> 00:26:37,794 Speaker 3: point that Birkenstock if you like, Yes, you could go 587 00:26:37,834 --> 00:26:40,553 Speaker 3: to the boutique, you know, one of the boutiques in 588 00:26:40,594 --> 00:26:45,114 Speaker 3: your town and they have like a decent range, But 589 00:26:45,354 --> 00:26:49,314 Speaker 3: the international boutiques and the online stock is for Birkenstock 590 00:26:49,554 --> 00:26:52,194 Speaker 3: are where you can get some of the more elevated styles. 591 00:26:52,474 --> 00:26:54,874 Speaker 3: So I know, Nedda Porter has a small range. I 592 00:26:54,914 --> 00:26:57,793 Speaker 3: think far Fetch has the biggest one. If you go 593 00:26:57,874 --> 00:27:00,874 Speaker 3: on there you can get the coolest sweep. There's velvet ones, 594 00:27:00,874 --> 00:27:04,714 Speaker 3: there's ones with like chic gold buckles, like rivets and 595 00:27:04,754 --> 00:27:05,514 Speaker 3: studs on them. 596 00:27:05,554 --> 00:27:07,553 Speaker 1: So just like have a look through that because in 597 00:27:07,634 --> 00:27:09,754 Speaker 1: terms of a comfortable shoe, you can walk all day in. 598 00:27:09,794 --> 00:27:11,674 Speaker 1: Birkenstock are like v og. 599 00:27:11,834 --> 00:27:14,354 Speaker 2: Isn't it funny how they've become pretty Like they've become 600 00:27:14,354 --> 00:27:14,834 Speaker 2: cool again. 601 00:27:16,874 --> 00:27:19,674 Speaker 3: They have a range called Birkenstock. I think it's called 602 00:27:19,714 --> 00:27:23,354 Speaker 3: Birkenstock nineteen seventy four, maybe that's it's it's definitely like 603 00:27:23,434 --> 00:27:26,914 Speaker 3: a decade and the Birkenstocks are over one thousand dollars. 604 00:27:27,194 --> 00:27:29,234 Speaker 1: That's like their luxury range. 605 00:27:29,794 --> 00:27:32,274 Speaker 2: Well, they were also another one of mind, the mules version, 606 00:27:32,354 --> 00:27:34,034 Speaker 2: like you said, the Spade Birkenstocks. 607 00:27:34,034 --> 00:27:35,914 Speaker 1: Oh, like the one that's like a closed toe. 608 00:27:37,234 --> 00:27:40,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love a sandal where like the herbs, because 609 00:27:41,074 --> 00:27:43,874 Speaker 2: it's got that exposed heel, so nothing there's not that 610 00:27:44,074 --> 00:27:46,674 Speaker 2: risk of something rubbing. But if you don't like an 611 00:27:46,714 --> 00:27:50,274 Speaker 2: open toe unlike yourself, Tam the mule is a really 612 00:27:50,314 --> 00:27:52,994 Speaker 2: good option. And yeah, probably better for me hiding the 613 00:27:52,994 --> 00:27:54,794 Speaker 2: toes if I haven't had a heady or something like that. 614 00:27:54,874 --> 00:27:56,714 Speaker 3: Oh I just don't care. I'm like, I'm on the 615 00:27:56,754 --> 00:27:59,674 Speaker 3: beach all day, it doesn't matter. I actually live in 616 00:28:00,434 --> 00:28:04,634 Speaker 3: Alias may An Australian brand. They have their footbed sandals. 617 00:28:04,914 --> 00:28:08,674 Speaker 3: They have countless designs, and even though we've gone towards 618 00:28:08,714 --> 00:28:11,754 Speaker 3: more of a thin strap sort of season with thongs trending, 619 00:28:12,634 --> 00:28:15,914 Speaker 3: I think, you know, those chunky sandals in the leather, 620 00:28:16,114 --> 00:28:18,314 Speaker 3: oh yeah, are always going to be stylish. I don't 621 00:28:18,314 --> 00:28:20,554 Speaker 3: think they're ever going to be like out so to speak. 622 00:28:20,594 --> 00:28:24,834 Speaker 3: I have a pair like padded black leather two straps 623 00:28:25,194 --> 00:28:27,714 Speaker 3: kind of again like a Birkenstock vibe, and I just 624 00:28:27,794 --> 00:28:28,674 Speaker 3: wear them all year. 625 00:28:29,114 --> 00:28:29,874 Speaker 1: So that's a good tip. 626 00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:32,154 Speaker 3: But then in terms of thongs, there has been some 627 00:28:32,274 --> 00:28:37,714 Speaker 3: advancement in like cool thongs that have arch support. Because 628 00:28:37,754 --> 00:28:39,394 Speaker 3: when the people came for me, when I put out 629 00:28:39,394 --> 00:28:41,434 Speaker 3: that story about my clear thongs. They were like, where's 630 00:28:41,474 --> 00:28:42,154 Speaker 3: the arch support? 631 00:28:42,274 --> 00:28:43,234 Speaker 1: I was like, good point. 632 00:28:43,314 --> 00:28:45,234 Speaker 4: I guess from an orthopedic point of view, I could 633 00:28:45,234 --> 00:28:46,154 Speaker 4: be more responsible. 634 00:28:46,594 --> 00:28:47,274 Speaker 1: So they have. 635 00:28:47,514 --> 00:28:51,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a brand called Tubes that has recently launched 636 00:28:51,874 --> 00:28:55,914 Speaker 3: a thong called the BFF and apparently you can comfortably 637 00:28:55,994 --> 00:28:58,234 Speaker 3: walk twenty thousand steps a day in those. They have 638 00:28:58,554 --> 00:29:01,714 Speaker 3: thousands of good reviews. And also Archies is another brand 639 00:29:01,754 --> 00:29:04,474 Speaker 3: that does like kind of like Cavianas, but just with 640 00:29:04,554 --> 00:29:05,834 Speaker 3: that added arch support. 641 00:29:05,954 --> 00:29:08,274 Speaker 2: Nice. I love that idea. Probably something we should think 642 00:29:08,314 --> 00:29:09,754 Speaker 2: about we as. 643 00:29:09,634 --> 00:29:13,994 Speaker 3: We get older, pubbling around on the couplestones, right, what 644 00:29:14,114 --> 00:29:18,514 Speaker 3: have we got next? Goldilocks underwear recommendations please, I'm not 645 00:29:18,594 --> 00:29:21,594 Speaker 3: a g banger goal but also sometimes fine high coverage 646 00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:24,354 Speaker 3: briefs give me a weird shape under my midi skirt. 647 00:29:24,554 --> 00:29:25,314 Speaker 1: So spciffy. 648 00:29:25,594 --> 00:29:27,634 Speaker 2: You know. I actually put a Q and A out 649 00:29:27,634 --> 00:29:29,714 Speaker 2: on my Instagram last night, and a couple more questions 650 00:29:29,714 --> 00:29:33,554 Speaker 2: came in about underwear to wear. Yeah, start stop being yeah, 651 00:29:33,554 --> 00:29:35,434 Speaker 2: when do you go to so you know they're saying 652 00:29:35,474 --> 00:29:38,074 Speaker 2: that you have you wear ten percent of your wardrobe 653 00:29:38,114 --> 00:29:40,274 Speaker 2: ninety percent of the time. I feel I am like 654 00:29:40,314 --> 00:29:42,234 Speaker 2: that with my underwear. Even though I've got some really 655 00:29:42,314 --> 00:29:45,834 Speaker 2: nice things. Nine times, even though it's clean, fresh underwear, 656 00:29:45,874 --> 00:29:48,154 Speaker 2: I'm always wearing Bonds. I find that they've got the 657 00:29:48,194 --> 00:29:51,234 Speaker 2: seamless bikini, the boycout, the G string, all the different types. 658 00:29:51,474 --> 00:29:54,514 Speaker 2: It's affordable. It's three for thirty nine dollars, and it's 659 00:29:54,594 --> 00:29:57,194 Speaker 2: just the accessibility of underwear. You can get it from 660 00:29:57,194 --> 00:29:58,954 Speaker 2: wool Worst, you can get it from bigw So if 661 00:29:58,994 --> 00:30:00,314 Speaker 2: I'm just there, I just grab it. 662 00:30:00,314 --> 00:30:02,514 Speaker 3: They've got a good strategy with where they put their 663 00:30:02,554 --> 00:30:05,034 Speaker 3: their product, don't they. Yeah, I love Bonds too. I'm 664 00:30:05,034 --> 00:30:09,634 Speaker 3: going to throw in their step. One has excellent underwear 665 00:30:10,154 --> 00:30:12,954 Speaker 3: if you haven't heard of them. No simple like for me, 666 00:30:13,034 --> 00:30:16,394 Speaker 3: simple black undies. I mostly wear black undies. It all cuts. 667 00:30:16,474 --> 00:30:18,954 Speaker 3: And then another favorite brand for me is Booty. 668 00:30:19,114 --> 00:30:20,474 Speaker 2: I love. We both said Booty. 669 00:30:20,554 --> 00:30:23,674 Speaker 3: We both put Booty on our little document, our little notes. 670 00:30:23,714 --> 00:30:28,634 Speaker 3: They do seamless styles in bamboo, which is like cotton 671 00:30:28,714 --> 00:30:29,754 Speaker 3: but even softer. 672 00:30:30,154 --> 00:30:33,114 Speaker 2: It's really nice. And the high cut full brief as well, 673 00:30:33,314 --> 00:30:36,234 Speaker 2: and they're about twenty dollars of hair, so not like overly. 674 00:30:36,634 --> 00:30:38,554 Speaker 3: I think that's good because I mean it's an undergarment 675 00:30:38,594 --> 00:30:41,074 Speaker 3: you're wearing all the time, right, I've got styles from 676 00:30:41,234 --> 00:30:44,354 Speaker 3: both brand Step one and Booty that like, I don't 677 00:30:44,354 --> 00:30:46,434 Speaker 3: think you should disclose how long you've had your underwear 678 00:30:46,474 --> 00:30:47,954 Speaker 3: for now that I think about it, but let's just 679 00:30:47,954 --> 00:30:49,714 Speaker 3: say I get a lot of wear out of them, washingware, 680 00:30:49,754 --> 00:30:50,954 Speaker 3: wash and wear, waterwear great. 681 00:30:51,034 --> 00:30:53,634 Speaker 2: Yeah. Another really nice brand in Australian brand that's come 682 00:30:53,634 --> 00:30:57,594 Speaker 2: out recently is called Nala. Yes, and it's kind of 683 00:30:57,674 --> 00:30:59,794 Speaker 2: it's that you know, you've got that internal battle where 684 00:30:59,794 --> 00:31:02,354 Speaker 2: you want to sort of just practical, easy to wear 685 00:31:02,474 --> 00:31:04,314 Speaker 2: cuff of the undies, but you sometimes want it to 686 00:31:04,314 --> 00:31:05,234 Speaker 2: be a little bit sexy. 687 00:31:05,434 --> 00:31:05,674 Speaker 1: Yes. 688 00:31:05,714 --> 00:31:08,354 Speaker 2: I feel like g Nala hits that balance really well. 689 00:31:08,514 --> 00:31:08,754 Speaker 1: Yes. 690 00:31:09,114 --> 00:31:11,354 Speaker 3: I also go to cotton on body a lot. I 691 00:31:11,514 --> 00:31:14,674 Speaker 3: honestly like their underwear is good. Like they've studied, they've 692 00:31:14,674 --> 00:31:17,674 Speaker 3: done the work. They have so much range, they're on trend. 693 00:31:18,194 --> 00:31:21,114 Speaker 3: But if you just want basic, you know, affordable undies, 694 00:31:21,354 --> 00:31:22,034 Speaker 3: nothing wrong. 695 00:31:21,874 --> 00:31:23,754 Speaker 2: With that, and I think the outtake the tip for 696 00:31:23,794 --> 00:31:26,834 Speaker 2: that is a high cut leg finish, so high waisted, 697 00:31:26,914 --> 00:31:29,554 Speaker 2: high cut leg yeah, to stop any sort of seams 698 00:31:29,594 --> 00:31:31,274 Speaker 2: and seamless if you can get that. But if you're 699 00:31:31,274 --> 00:31:33,674 Speaker 2: not a g string gal, try and get a high 700 00:31:33,674 --> 00:31:37,154 Speaker 2: cut leg. So there are our tips and tricks with fashion. 701 00:31:37,514 --> 00:31:39,914 Speaker 2: Why don't we move into bougie and budget. 702 00:31:40,034 --> 00:31:42,354 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we've solved a few dilemmas there. 703 00:31:42,554 --> 00:31:44,274 Speaker 2: Hopefully that help. Hopefully it helps. 704 00:31:44,314 --> 00:31:47,434 Speaker 3: Please do send us if you have questions dm us, 705 00:31:47,634 --> 00:31:49,154 Speaker 3: you know, across all our channels. 706 00:31:49,274 --> 00:31:51,034 Speaker 1: Hit us with a note at email. 707 00:31:50,674 --> 00:31:53,234 Speaker 3: Whatever you like, a strongly worded letter, let us know 708 00:31:53,634 --> 00:31:55,914 Speaker 3: what you want to hear, and we'll do another one 709 00:31:55,914 --> 00:31:56,434 Speaker 3: of these. 710 00:32:07,434 --> 00:32:10,994 Speaker 1: Very expensive how old are these percent? 711 00:32:12,914 --> 00:32:15,114 Speaker 2: All right? So our bougie and budget this week, Tam, 712 00:32:15,234 --> 00:32:16,274 Speaker 2: what's your bougie? 713 00:32:16,394 --> 00:32:19,514 Speaker 3: I'm actually wearing my bougie today. Don't you love that? 714 00:32:19,794 --> 00:32:23,394 Speaker 3: But it lines up so my bougie. Okay, just a 715 00:32:23,434 --> 00:32:25,514 Speaker 3: bit of history. If you know me, you know I 716 00:32:25,594 --> 00:32:29,394 Speaker 3: love a statement collared shirt, like a short sleeve shirt. 717 00:32:29,434 --> 00:32:31,714 Speaker 3: It's kind of just my go to piece, especially in 718 00:32:31,754 --> 00:32:34,794 Speaker 3: summer when I want to look elevated but still relaxed. 719 00:32:35,114 --> 00:32:37,794 Speaker 3: So I've got this like growing collection of these shirts 720 00:32:37,834 --> 00:32:39,914 Speaker 3: and I was looking for one in a lace or 721 00:32:39,954 --> 00:32:43,794 Speaker 3: a This is actually a brodery angolaise. Like it's gorgeous, 722 00:32:43,834 --> 00:32:46,714 Speaker 3: It's really pretty pretty. It is a white shirt in 723 00:32:46,754 --> 00:32:48,954 Speaker 3: a sort of resort style. It's not a print, but 724 00:32:48,994 --> 00:32:52,714 Speaker 3: it's got like flower detailing on it woven into it 725 00:32:52,754 --> 00:32:55,314 Speaker 3: and then these kind of mesh panels. It's really hard 726 00:32:55,314 --> 00:32:57,794 Speaker 3: to explain now that I'm trying. Let me tell you 727 00:32:57,834 --> 00:33:00,834 Speaker 3: where it's from. It's from Morrison, Okay. Morrison is an 728 00:33:00,874 --> 00:33:04,554 Speaker 3: Australian brand that just does a great shirt like they 729 00:33:04,554 --> 00:33:07,074 Speaker 3: do everything else in your wardrobe, but they gosh, they 730 00:33:07,234 --> 00:33:10,074 Speaker 3: nail a shirt. I had one in Linen last year 731 00:33:10,114 --> 00:33:12,114 Speaker 3: that I wore quite a lot that had like an 732 00:33:12,394 --> 00:33:15,194 Speaker 3: embroidered detail of like fish and stuff on it. 733 00:33:15,394 --> 00:33:17,634 Speaker 1: And I've never got more compliments on anything I've won. 734 00:33:17,794 --> 00:33:22,514 Speaker 3: So it is called the Mani Onnglais shirt. It's two 735 00:33:22,634 --> 00:33:25,354 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety nine dollars, so it's not a cheap 736 00:33:25,554 --> 00:33:28,394 Speaker 3: shirt by any means. But I can definitely test to 737 00:33:28,434 --> 00:33:30,954 Speaker 3: the quality of Morrison's pieces and their shirts. 738 00:33:30,994 --> 00:33:33,034 Speaker 1: I've bought them before. What's your bougie? 739 00:33:33,074 --> 00:33:36,474 Speaker 2: So my bougie this week is actually a silk scarf, 740 00:33:36,514 --> 00:33:39,554 Speaker 2: since we were speaking of scarves. It's this angus the 741 00:33:39,794 --> 00:33:43,314 Speaker 2: label silk Scarf here. It's one hundred and nine dollars, 742 00:33:43,754 --> 00:33:47,314 Speaker 2: so for a silk scarf. But how amazing is this 743 00:33:47,554 --> 00:33:50,474 Speaker 2: print here? Can you describe it to us? So it 744 00:33:50,514 --> 00:33:54,434 Speaker 2: feels like positano in a silk scarf. So it's got 745 00:33:54,554 --> 00:33:57,554 Speaker 2: like a little sardine you can imagine like cartoon drawings 746 00:33:57,594 --> 00:33:59,794 Speaker 2: on a silk scarf. It's got a little sardine tin, 747 00:34:00,474 --> 00:34:02,634 Speaker 2: little chili's print paint. 748 00:34:02,754 --> 00:34:05,674 Speaker 1: It's a print that's been like it's a painting that's been. 749 00:34:05,594 --> 00:34:09,754 Speaker 2: Pret illustration and it's Yeah, it's just really fun for 750 00:34:10,154 --> 00:34:13,154 Speaker 2: summer and I love it. It's sort of the size 751 00:34:13,194 --> 00:34:15,954 Speaker 2: as well where I can wear it as I've wanted 752 00:34:15,994 --> 00:34:19,593 Speaker 2: a lot as just a bag accessory, but as a 753 00:34:19,754 --> 00:34:20,754 Speaker 2: bandana as well. 754 00:34:20,834 --> 00:34:22,033 Speaker 1: She's putting it on her head. 755 00:34:22,154 --> 00:34:25,074 Speaker 2: Everybody there it is, but just so fun for summer. 756 00:34:25,154 --> 00:34:28,594 Speaker 2: I really really love the print. So yeah, Angers is 757 00:34:28,594 --> 00:34:30,074 Speaker 2: the label and it actually just launched. 758 00:34:30,114 --> 00:34:33,154 Speaker 3: I haven't heard of label. Have to check them out. 759 00:34:33,234 --> 00:34:34,914 Speaker 3: That's such a great it's fun stuff. 760 00:34:34,954 --> 00:34:35,594 Speaker 1: I love it. 761 00:34:35,634 --> 00:34:36,754 Speaker 2: What's your budget, Tam. 762 00:34:37,034 --> 00:34:40,114 Speaker 3: I have been on a journey Lucinda to find shorts 763 00:34:40,154 --> 00:34:42,314 Speaker 3: that I like. I'm sure I'm not the only one. 764 00:34:42,514 --> 00:34:45,314 Speaker 3: Shorts are a hard thing to buy. I do wear 765 00:34:45,354 --> 00:34:48,354 Speaker 3: shorts through summer, but I'm really picky about the styles 766 00:34:48,394 --> 00:34:50,034 Speaker 3: because I find that they just a lot of them 767 00:34:50,074 --> 00:34:52,794 Speaker 3: just don't flattery. They're not cut for me. So a 768 00:34:52,834 --> 00:34:57,554 Speaker 3: brand that I really like their shorts silhouette is Series 769 00:34:57,634 --> 00:35:04,034 Speaker 3: Life Cres Life. They have a style called the Miler short. 770 00:35:04,314 --> 00:35:08,034 Speaker 3: I la comes in lots of different colorways prints. It's 771 00:35:08,074 --> 00:35:11,034 Speaker 3: a really nice roomy cut in a nice soft cotton. 772 00:35:11,154 --> 00:35:15,394 Speaker 3: And I got the Gingham like brown, white, check Gingham. 773 00:35:15,594 --> 00:35:17,514 Speaker 2: So there are a little short like is it almost 774 00:35:17,594 --> 00:35:18,873 Speaker 2: box a short style? Yeah? 775 00:35:18,914 --> 00:35:21,594 Speaker 3: Almost box are short, but these are more like tapping 776 00:35:21,594 --> 00:35:24,834 Speaker 3: into that trend that I'm seeing for shorts that really 777 00:35:24,874 --> 00:35:26,834 Speaker 3: do kind of give pajama short. 778 00:35:26,634 --> 00:35:28,913 Speaker 1: But in a cool way. I'm very into that too. 779 00:35:28,994 --> 00:35:31,114 Speaker 3: So yeah, they're Gingham and I think they also have 780 00:35:31,154 --> 00:35:33,954 Speaker 3: a red Gingham pair which is really cute, maybe green 781 00:35:33,994 --> 00:35:37,634 Speaker 3: as well. But they're sixty dollars, which I think is 782 00:35:37,714 --> 00:35:40,154 Speaker 3: pretty good for like a good quality cotton short, and 783 00:35:40,194 --> 00:35:41,434 Speaker 3: I've been wearing them NonStop. 784 00:35:41,714 --> 00:35:42,474 Speaker 1: What's your budget? 785 00:35:42,754 --> 00:35:44,994 Speaker 2: My budget? I've been sitting on this one for a 786 00:35:45,034 --> 00:35:48,473 Speaker 2: while because I haven't pulled the trigger on buying them. 787 00:35:49,394 --> 00:35:52,433 Speaker 2: But it's the slim square toe Havianas. 788 00:35:52,674 --> 00:35:53,714 Speaker 1: Oh I have these? 789 00:35:53,834 --> 00:35:56,634 Speaker 2: Do you yeah, in black or white. Yeah, yeah, I 790 00:35:56,754 --> 00:35:59,154 Speaker 2: love I just love the square toe and it's sort 791 00:35:59,194 --> 00:36:01,314 Speaker 2: of one of those if you know, you know vibes. 792 00:36:01,434 --> 00:36:03,514 Speaker 2: I feel like Havianas have had a bit of slack 793 00:36:03,594 --> 00:36:06,554 Speaker 2: since a few years now because there's so many other 794 00:36:06,594 --> 00:36:09,674 Speaker 2: options available and they're a little bit sort of okker. 795 00:36:10,274 --> 00:36:12,433 Speaker 1: Do you think no, did you miss? 796 00:36:12,554 --> 00:36:14,794 Speaker 3: I can't believe you, Like they had this massive glow 797 00:36:14,914 --> 00:36:16,314 Speaker 3: up everyone's wearing, but. 798 00:36:16,434 --> 00:36:20,234 Speaker 2: Don't you think it's But recently, I think, like i'd say, 799 00:36:20,234 --> 00:36:23,634 Speaker 2: two years ago, yes, it was still a little bit like, 800 00:36:23,674 --> 00:36:24,754 Speaker 2: oh you're wearing having. 801 00:36:24,554 --> 00:36:27,114 Speaker 3: Anna, Yeah, and then everything changes change and then at 802 00:36:27,154 --> 00:36:32,314 Speaker 3: Copenhagen Fashion Week, every single girl was wearing Havanas. 803 00:36:32,434 --> 00:36:34,433 Speaker 2: So these square toes I think are really nice because 804 00:36:34,434 --> 00:36:36,034 Speaker 2: maybe it's because where I don't know, I was so 805 00:36:36,074 --> 00:36:37,234 Speaker 2: familiar with seeing them on these. 806 00:36:38,034 --> 00:36:39,554 Speaker 1: That's why they don't feel new to us. 807 00:36:39,954 --> 00:36:44,154 Speaker 4: That's why if you're it's like this is cool, unexpected, 808 00:36:44,394 --> 00:36:45,994 Speaker 4: Well like, no, that's very expected. 809 00:36:46,074 --> 00:36:48,754 Speaker 2: But they were always so comfy and easy and like 810 00:36:48,794 --> 00:36:51,634 Speaker 2: the price point forty five dollars for the slim square toe. 811 00:36:51,754 --> 00:36:53,634 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I still haven't pulled the trigger. 812 00:36:53,674 --> 00:36:55,674 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind getting the black ones. I love the 813 00:36:55,714 --> 00:36:58,194 Speaker 2: idea of white fit wearing a white. 814 00:36:57,954 --> 00:36:59,154 Speaker 1: You'll wear them to death, though. 815 00:36:59,194 --> 00:36:59,393 Speaker 2: Man. 816 00:36:59,514 --> 00:37:02,674 Speaker 3: I have just the red classic thicker strap with the 817 00:37:02,754 --> 00:37:04,794 Speaker 3: round toe, and I just live in them. 818 00:37:05,074 --> 00:37:08,194 Speaker 1: Honestly. Yeah, I feel like they're cool, so I'm yeah. 819 00:37:08,554 --> 00:37:11,994 Speaker 1: No shame, no shame. She's on board. 820 00:37:12,634 --> 00:37:14,714 Speaker 3: That's all we have time for today. Thank you for 821 00:37:14,794 --> 00:37:16,954 Speaker 3: listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget to sign up 822 00:37:16,994 --> 00:37:19,354 Speaker 3: to our Nothing to Wear newsletter. 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