WEBVTT - The Styles Taking Over 2025

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is recorded on. Whoever said orange is a new pink

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<v Speaker 1>with seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you have to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You live for fashion, Nicole. You are back because we

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<v Speaker 1>did an episode a little while ago about twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five trend predictions, and there is just so much happening

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<v Speaker 1>and so much coming and I didn't want to miss anything,

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<v Speaker 1>So welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me back.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very exciting to hear what we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see because you and people in rolls like yours in

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<v Speaker 1>the fashion industry just kind of know what the future is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very cool. It's not until I go into stores

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<v Speaker 1>or shop online and I'm like, oh, there's buddy yellow,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there's buttery yellow, and you're like, duh, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that months ago. So let's kick off with some more

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<v Speaker 1>trends that are coming or are kind of evolving, shares

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<v Speaker 1>and transparents. I feel like this has been around for while.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got some sheer bits that I'm wearing my bras

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<v Speaker 1>under and you know, bits and pieces so what does

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<v Speaker 1>shear and transparent look like? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yes, we have seen it for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also like some people, you know, you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of early adopters will pick it up and then it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of filters through. Yes, so we've seen it come

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<v Speaker 2>through and it is tricky to wear. But this time

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a bit more multi layered, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're not so worried about what am I gonna wear

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<v Speaker 2>underneath because it's totally see through. Yeah, so it could

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<v Speaker 2>be shares with like they've got you know, a double

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<v Speaker 2>or a triple layer type thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, like a lining, but intentional in that, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a few layers, so you're not just like, wow, there's

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<v Speaker 1>my bra, how do I layer?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>They've thought about the layering for you. They've thought about

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<v Speaker 1>it for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So the sheer skirt but overlay might be sheer, but

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<v Speaker 2>then what's underneath it might just not be shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. I like that It takes the guesswork out because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you look at an outfit or an inspo pick

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, gosh, that's amazing, but how do I

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<v Speaker 1>wear that? Can I wear that? Without you know, feeling

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<v Speaker 1>really self conscious, but if it's the layerer intentional, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to thoct about it exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like designers had listened to that. So

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<v Speaker 2>on the runway you'll see its sheer and it's totally

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<v Speaker 2>see through, but then like to sell it, there's always

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<v Speaker 2>something underneath here.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we're not all rocking out nips out to the

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<v Speaker 1>office that way exactly, all right off the shoulder and asymmetrical.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this what do you call it? Neckline?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess yes is always yes, is always coming and

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<v Speaker 1>going and it's kind of classic. But it's interesting talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that people must have loved it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's just twenty twenty five. There's more of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing it not only in tops, we're also seeing

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<v Speaker 2>in dresses. It allows for that draping, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit more forgiving. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>why people are really liking it. It can turn into

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of a drapy type dress. Yes, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit sexier when you show a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>skin on your one shoulder. Yet one shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>Practicality though, are we wearing a strapless bra then, because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really wear a normal bra, I mean one shoulder.

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<v Speaker 2>Could I actually wear a strapless under both of those?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I think that's what you need to really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't wear anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I know skims does a one shoulder bra, but

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<v Speaker 1>then how do you know which shoulder your dress or

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<v Speaker 1>your top's going to need no strap? But yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>go strapless.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true. Yes, I do feel like they're always

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<v Speaker 2>sort of on the same side. But no, you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>I did try something on the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it always a bear left or a bead right shoulder?

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<v Speaker 1>And so is the shoulder that is slightly covered? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that still kind of what we call like a sleeveless

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<v Speaker 1>like a singlarity top or are we getting any long sleeve?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yet we're getting into long sleeves as well. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you might see, yes, you might see like it's

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<v Speaker 2>off the shoulder on one side and maybe it has

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<v Speaker 2>a long fluted sleeve or maybe it just has a

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<v Speaker 2>shirt sleeve. I mean you can even do this with

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<v Speaker 2>if you've just got a shirt at home, you can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of style it that way as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it becomes a one shoulder around. So, speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>those tops, is it kind of just that classic drape?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything different about it?

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<v Speaker 2>So there's the classic drape, and there's also I guess

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<v Speaker 2>like a folded top, so that'll be like more like

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<v Speaker 2>a square necklimb.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's sort of like folded ogami. Yeah, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a double layer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, quite long. Actually it might go up to here

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<v Speaker 2>when it falls over, So starts here comes down to here.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting an address or a top okay, in address and

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<v Speaker 1>that's tops. Are we seeing skirts? I know we spoke

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<v Speaker 1>on the other episode about those kind of handkerchief skirts,

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<v Speaker 1>but are we seeing asymmetric?

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<v Speaker 2>We are mine, So asymmetric headlines not only on say,

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<v Speaker 2>I know we're talking about tops, but just on the

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<v Speaker 2>top as well. So it doesn't go down the way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it goes down asymmetrically. And then also in skirts, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is really good because you know, saferends, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to wear a short skirt and you still

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<v Speaker 2>want to wear a long skirt, but it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like shot on one side, so it's asymmetrical one but

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<v Speaker 2>you still feel like you're wearing a long skirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that's more kind of cut diagonal. It's different

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<v Speaker 1>to that handkerchief hem which is a bit more sort

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<v Speaker 1>of jagged. This is kind of just longer on one

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<v Speaker 1>side than the other. Correct, Okay, I couldn't maybe do

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<v Speaker 1>that in a dress. Tell me about what's happening with pink,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like after the Barbie movie, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>world was pink and then everyone had pink hangover and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>So bubblegum pink, yes, so there might be some thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>Like trend predictions are kind of telling us there could

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<v Speaker 2>be a bit of bubble gum pink. So I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for it to come through.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a hot future pink, no, Okay, I got fresh shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I guess bright but kind of like a

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<v Speaker 2>lolly pink. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna call it. And so

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<v Speaker 2>you might see it in skirts. It might be like

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<v Speaker 2>in a T shirt, say like it's a graphic T shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got a print on it, but that base color

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<v Speaker 2>is bright pink.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that pink with denim or with a fresh white.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, they're two good ways to wear it. Definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like that. I do like pink. I just

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<v Speaker 1>had too much of it. The New Grind, what is

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<v Speaker 1>this all about so.

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<v Speaker 2>The new grind, let's talk about. It's like work where

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<v Speaker 2>meets rebellion. So let's face it. I mean, we all

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<v Speaker 2>have to work, so we need our staple work wear.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's shirting or tailoring with a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>sexier edge, but then wearing this sort of thing for

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<v Speaker 2>more party dressing more like, so it's day to night.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of of like work to drinks vibe. So

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<v Speaker 2>it might be like say on the runway, it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>like classic officer type and then it's got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sexy elements coming through a little bit something sheer on

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<v Speaker 2>the shirt. Maybe the way it's styled. Okay, maybe there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of lace back with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. I don't think I could do that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand that one. But that's okay, not all trends for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a few cutouts and maybe undone details. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the blazer that you've got isn't quite finished, like right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's kind of like got a raw edge, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is an easy one.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so yes, that's easy, that's entry level, okay, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's like highlighting that a bit more of

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<v Speaker 2>a provocative approach to like professional wear, So she's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looks professional but not really like maybe wouldn't wear

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<v Speaker 2>it to the office, but you are wearing out tonight, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what you mean. So if you're a literal lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>or you're in your doctor's office, you're probably not wearing that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's that kind of again, it's a duxtaposition. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you know, we've spoke on the first

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<v Speaker 1>episode about that kind of juxtabe is between feminine and masculine.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is kind of work which you associate with

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<v Speaker 1>like tailoring and proper, but then the rebellion side's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit rough and ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's something you might see someone wear out at night,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily in the left really to the office. How

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was wearing blazes over their dresses, you know last year,

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<v Speaker 2>then this year everyone to be wearing Oh they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of got their work wear, but not really it's too

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<v Speaker 2>sexy for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, cool, yeahy coolah and a bit like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where she's been or what she does. YEA

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<v Speaker 1>love it. I'm so happy with this next one because

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<v Speaker 1>I see you're telling me trench coats are sticking around.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're a classic but what's happening with trenches

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<v Speaker 1>this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm very happy too because I've been loving wearing

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<v Speaker 2>my trench, so it can just be utilized like every year.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, it's what you wear under that changes. So

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<v Speaker 2>last year we were wearing track pants under it. This

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<v Speaker 2>year we might be wearing our asymmetrical or our shares

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<v Speaker 2>or our laces onunderneath.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a sheer or lace under a train.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's still that camel colored classic trench, so yay,

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<v Speaker 2>we can keep it okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's trans season all right. You know you can

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<v Speaker 1>wear it over something that's you know, lightweight or evening

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<v Speaker 1>or summery, but then in the dead of winter you

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<v Speaker 1>can still wear your trench.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you know, in the dead of winter you

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<v Speaker 2>might want to layer with something else. You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I two jackets.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like two jackets, or like a hoodie under

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<v Speaker 1>a trench. It looks so cool. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>can do it, or I should practice at home, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have that look I can, yes for sure, to

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<v Speaker 1>do with all the necklines, I don't know, and it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like am I going to the gym? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>going to be inspector? Gadget anyway, I'm going to try it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm glad trenches are here to stay. So are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to see a lot hitting websites and stores

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<v Speaker 1>and just.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably soon because as it gets into trans season all

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<v Speaker 2>that's when the trench coats come out good and you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell them it with shirting as well, and also

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe pinstripe sort of coming through and leather as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that will change it as well. That's my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>so far. So stadium ready, is this another sort of

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<v Speaker 1>sporty preppy thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it definitely is. Everyone's spawty and you know, off

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the Australian Open, it's all about tennis core.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see whites, mini skirts, more sporty trends coming through.

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<v Speaker 2>The polo top i mentioned last episode will also come

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<v Speaker 2>through here. Maybe it's a full skirt worn with it,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe it's a straight skirt. Maybe it's a white

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<v Speaker 2>leg pant, just kind of adding that sporty feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, look, yeah, how do you do a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>stadium or sporty because for me, I'm not sporty and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd probably want to mix it back with some

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<v Speaker 1>more classics. So is it just with jeans and that

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<v Speaker 1>type of top.

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<v Speaker 2>If you wanted to it with jeans, like maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>could do like look for like a sporty stripe polo top.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you could wear or would you do a

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<v Speaker 2>plat skirt or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>A long one note and I like it though. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of a nod to that sort of preppy vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you like a midi skirt, I do like

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<v Speaker 2>ad so you could do like the polo top with

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<v Speaker 2>a midi skirt. So maybe it's a stripe or a

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<v Speaker 2>plane polo top, button it up. The midi skirt would.

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<v Speaker 1>Be gene interesting. So I feel like twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>animal print, leopard print, it was back with a vengeance.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening with animal print? Is it here to stay?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I really like my leopard print wide leg jeans.

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<v Speaker 2>The good news is yes, staying for another year. So

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<v Speaker 2>we saw it in twenty twenty four. It was all

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<v Speaker 2>about mob wife, so it was like, you know, wearing

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<v Speaker 2>like the big glasses and the big kind of faux

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<v Speaker 2>for coats and things like that, the boots and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're just going animal print. It's just a neutral.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's call that the new neutral for this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>a new animal print. Yes, leopard print. So you could

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<v Speaker 2>get a skirt, just team it with something plain on top.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be you know swim as well. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>good one for swim.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. So when you say neutral, you think of it

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<v Speaker 1>like a classic piece. So, like I said, my jeans

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<v Speaker 1>their leopard print for their gene. So I just wear

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<v Speaker 1>that with my white tea or something simple, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just replace my blue denim jeans.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. So I call it a neutral if it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that can go back with quite a few things. So

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<v Speaker 2>a neutrals like it's like it goes back with black

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<v Speaker 2>or white, go with chan like anything. It's just like

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<v Speaker 2>a staple. Maybe it's not so much a neutral, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a basic. It's a wardrobe staple.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay, let's make all laffered your wardrobe statefulk twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty I love that, Okay, now something that I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>happy to leave in twenty twenty four. But you'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>me if we are not the bubble hymn that came

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<v Speaker 1>back mini skirts, maxi skirts dresses. Wow, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>see that coming last year. What's happening without him? In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think you're going to see more of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to say people, you're buying it.

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<v Speaker 2>People are buying it, and more and more designers are

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<v Speaker 2>coming out with it, and I think until everyone has

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<v Speaker 2>tried it, it will stay for a little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, telling matters have to buy one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you just need to try one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand the miniskirt thing, but I have seen

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<v Speaker 1>some longer ones that sort of have like it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a puffy sleeve, like a volume of sleep, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of a skirt exactly, it's some air

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<v Speaker 1>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more about the hem.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also get it in tops, but I know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about those, So the dress might be

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<v Speaker 2>tighter up the top and then it comes out into

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<v Speaker 2>a big sort of bubble skirt at the bottom. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that'll be an easy one to you want to

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<v Speaker 2>try it, and that's just a great silhouette and you're

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<v Speaker 2>still tapping into Hey, I'm wearing the bubble hem. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily wearing one of those cute little skirts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it feels a bit youthful for me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just have flashbacks of the first time. But it just

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<v Speaker 1>trends always fascinate me because sometimes when I see things

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<v Speaker 1>hit stores are hit online, I'm like, that'll go away,

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<v Speaker 1>and then if it sticks around, I'm like, people are

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<v Speaker 1>obviously buying.

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<v Speaker 2>It, I know. And it's also because it's new to

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<v Speaker 2>so many girls, so that it's new and exciting. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks cute, it's kind of sexy, like it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's true and like we say, trends aren't for everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone likes it and that's good. Romantic trend. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me about what that's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>I did mention last time, like the new bohemian this,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm this is kind of an extension of that

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<v Speaker 2>romantic trend. So we're seeing it coming through. Like, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's the fabrication, so lace, applicate, ruffles, pastels, shoes, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of light florals, anything that's kind of feminine and really

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<v Speaker 2>romantic and beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like that, and we're doing it head to toe.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it like dresses or just a top with a

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<v Speaker 1>pant or depends on how much you have.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going romantic and girl, you have to like

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<v Speaker 2>see it through. So it is like whether it's the

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<v Speaker 2>dress or whether it's the top and skirt. The whole

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<v Speaker 2>outfit is romantic. You're not really clashing and mixing it

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<v Speaker 2>with anything else. You're just going full romance.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm into that. Another one I loved in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, so I hope it stays. The barrel Jean.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there has been a style or cut

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<v Speaker 1>of pants that are more polarizing. I've got a few pairs, now,

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<v Speaker 1>you do. I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>They still don't have a pan o.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's all about where and if anyone is

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<v Speaker 1>in across it. Barrel jeans, it's kind of like it's

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<v Speaker 1>fitted but then flares out at some point, oftentimes on

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<v Speaker 1>the thigh, which I think is not flattering. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit further down, I love them. So

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<v Speaker 1>are they here to stay?

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<v Speaker 2>They are? Yea More and more denim brands are doing them.

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<v Speaker 2>So the barrel gene not even like a horseshoe show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would describe it as curved like a horseshoe. Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>so barrel or even balloon. You'll find if you search

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<v Speaker 1>term it, this kind of star will come up. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>And I find I've done them with flats. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do feel, particularly for my heart at least a little

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<v Speaker 1>kitten heel kind of makes this yellowette a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the kit and hell and I think definitely

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go tighter on top.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, because otherwise there's a lot of volume.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried it on with one of my oversized blazers

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<v Speaker 1>and it just looked like I was scouting at a fab, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad they're coming. They're like an emphasized mum Jean,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like the new take on a mum Jean

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes me so happy. Okay, peep toe heels? What's

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<v Speaker 1>this about? Like, I mean, I know what a classic

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<v Speaker 1>peeptoe is, but is it the rest of the shoes

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<v Speaker 1>quite covered?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we saw them on the runway. So so far,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen many come out yet, but they will,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely they will. I guess it's your big toe or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe your first two toes are just kind of peeping

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<v Speaker 2>out the front. It could be a mule style or

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<v Speaker 2>it could be Yeah, it could be a sling back

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<v Speaker 2>or even just like a pump. But it's definitely a heel,

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<v Speaker 2>peep toe heel.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm into that all right? Before we get into bougie

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<v Speaker 1>and budget. One more thing I want to ask you about.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of seeing what we guess I would call

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<v Speaker 1>sort of utility style back or coming back or doing

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<v Speaker 1>the rounds. What's all that about? You know there was

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<v Speaker 1>cargo pants a bit last year. What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>I like to think of it. It's probably the hardest

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<v Speaker 2>working thing in my wardrobe because it's something you can

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<v Speaker 2>just like wear over and over. So it's about the

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<v Speaker 2>big pockets. It's utility in the fabric. It's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit heavier, so when you think of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>men's work where utility, but it's kind of got that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feel to it. So it might be a

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<v Speaker 2>dress that's belted but it's got great pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>So it could also be like cargo skirt. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>cargo camvasy worktop. Yeah, fabric, I can picture it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's obviously designed you know, new, not covered in Greece

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<v Speaker 1>and for women.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a pocket. Give me a big utility pocket

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere functional or non usually.

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<v Speaker 2>Has would have two. So I have either two up

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<v Speaker 2>the top or two on the skirts, and even like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe four might have some with its pair of pants.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, wow, two sets of pockets, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen sort of belts and stuff, which again plays

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<v Speaker 1>into the utility kind of vibe. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it just like cinches everything in love. It

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<v Speaker 2>colors in that a boxy shape. Yeah. Neutrals, definitely, neutrals

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<v Speaker 2>or denim.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, your khakis, your tankys.

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<v Speaker 2>Camels, even black or denim. It's very expensive. How old

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<v Speaker 2>are these.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole lets? Do? Boogie and budget? I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 1>trenches because longtime listeners know that I am a trench.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not allowed to buy any new ones for a

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<v Speaker 1>little while because I have so many. And you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring some asymmetrical pizzas. All right, let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>your budget.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So budget, I'm going to choose a one shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going for black. It's from atmoss in here

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<v Speaker 2>and it's twenty nine ninety nine, so it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>classic kind of one shoulder top. It's a tank top style,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think would be great for when I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, my handkerchief skirts and my bubble hems

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<v Speaker 2>and my barrel jeans. I need something tight up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that'd be great with a barrel jean. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>into that, okay. And what color? Black? Black? Okay? I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Well. My first trench, my budget trench, is

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<v Speaker 1>from Zara. They do such a good trench. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>classic trench coat with belt. One hundred and eighty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear Zara. It does like twenty different styles of

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<v Speaker 1>trenches each year, but this is a very classic, that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of beigy color, the lapels, that just very very

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<v Speaker 1>classic trench style. A little bit longer than what you'd imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the Berberry want to be. I like it

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<v Speaker 1>a bit longer, do you. I don't like it too short.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's good because it just it's got that

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<v Speaker 2>nice silhouette when it's longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Agreed, all right, what's your bouge asymmetric?

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<v Speaker 2>Akay, my bougie. I'm going with Camilla and Mark. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Elliott Mini dress. Four hundred dollars. It's black

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<v Speaker 2>against I'm going classic dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Is good for Camilla and Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, asymmetric at the neckline, but it's got long

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<v Speaker 2>fluted sleeves and it's cinched in the waist. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is a mini skirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Evening I would say during the day, you would

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<v Speaker 1>I could probably wear that to work. Okay, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a different job to most people.

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<v Speaker 2>I could wear that to work with a flat because

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<v Speaker 2>it's only really showing skin here. I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it's showing my legs. But I'm quite short, so okay,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah with a flat, yeah, so it doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm showing too much skin because I am not that tall. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd wear at a night with a heel on. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess a cotton blend.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, okay, so pretty classic. Yeah, well, surprise, surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>My boogie is also Camilla re Mark. Because who do

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<v Speaker 1>you think of when you think of fancy trench coats. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>Camilla and Mark. It's the Evans classic knee length trench.

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<v Speaker 1>When you close your eyes and picture a classic trench coat,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this. The model's quite tall, so it falls just

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<v Speaker 1>below her knees. For me, that would be midcalf because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not particularly tall as well. Eight hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever do invest in a Camilla and mart

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<v Speaker 1>trench coat, you're gonna have it forever. I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>gray one that I got at one of their sample sales.

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<v Speaker 1>That looks brand new and I've thrashed it so I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. So that's on my wish list. But do

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<v Speaker 1>I need another trench?

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<v Speaker 2>You always do. I'm not gonna say no. Your mic

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<v Speaker 2>shop for a living.

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<v Speaker 1>Shopping person, Nicole. Thank you so much for your wisdom.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so good to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Lee,