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Speaker 1: with seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have to do it.

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Speaker 1: You live for fashion, Nicole. You are back because we

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Speaker 1: did an episode a little while ago about twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five trend predictions, and there is just so much happening

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Speaker 1: and so much coming and I didn't want to miss anything,

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Speaker 1: So welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 1: It is very exciting to hear what we're going to

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Speaker 1: see because you and people in rolls like yours in

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Speaker 1: the fashion industry just kind of know what the future is.

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Speaker 1: It's very cool. It's not until I go into stores

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Speaker 1: or shop online and I'm like, oh, there's buddy yellow,

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Speaker 1: Oh there's buttery yellow, and you're like, duh, I knew

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Speaker 1: that months ago. So let's kick off with some more

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Speaker 1: trends that are coming or are kind of evolving, shares

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Speaker 1: and transparents. I feel like this has been around for while.

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Speaker 1: I've got some sheer bits that I'm wearing my bras

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Speaker 1: under and you know, bits and pieces so what does

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Speaker 1: shear and transparent look like? Now?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yes, we have seen it for a while,

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Speaker 2: but it's also like some people, you know, you kind

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Speaker 2: kind of filters through. Yes, so we've seen it come

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Speaker 2: through and it is tricky to wear. But this time

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a bit more multi layered, so

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Speaker 2: underneath because it's totally see through. Yeah, so it could

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Speaker 2: be shares with like they've got you know, a double

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Speaker 1: Okay, like a lining, but intentional in that, like there's

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Speaker 1: a few layers, so you're not just like, wow, there's

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Speaker 1: my bra, how do I layer?

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Speaker 2: Exactly?

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Speaker 1: They've thought about the layering for you. They've thought about

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Speaker 2: So the sheer skirt but overlay might be sheer, but

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Speaker 2: then what's underneath it might just not be shit?

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Speaker 1: Okay. I like that It takes the guesswork out because

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Speaker 2: And I feel like designers had listened to that. So

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Speaker 2: on the runway you'll see its sheer and it's totally

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Speaker 1: Because we're not all rocking out nips out to the

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Speaker 1: office that way exactly, all right off the shoulder and asymmetrical.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this what do you call it? Neckline?

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Speaker 1: I guess yes is always yes, is always coming and

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Speaker 2: So I think that people must have loved it because

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Speaker 2: it's just twenty twenty five. There's more of it, and

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Speaker 2: we're seeing it not only in tops, we're also seeing

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Speaker 2: Because I think that's what you need to really, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: No, I know skims does a one shoulder bra, but

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Speaker 1: Is it always a bear left or a bead right shoulder?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it becomes a one shoulder around. So, speaking of

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Speaker 2: Okay, quite long. Actually it might go up to here

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Speaker 1: Not a hot future pink, no, Okay, I got fresh shirt.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I guess bright but kind of like a

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Speaker 2: it's got a print on it, but that base color

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I do like pink. I just

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Speaker 1: had too much of it. The New Grind, what is

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Speaker 2: The new grind, let's talk about. It's like work where

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Speaker 2: meets rebellion. So let's face it. I mean, we all

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Speaker 2: So it's shirting or tailoring with a bit of a

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Speaker 1: Interesting. I don't think I could do that. I don't

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Speaker 2: I guess it's like highlighting that a bit more of

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Speaker 1: But it's that kind of again, it's a duxtaposition. It's

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Speaker 1: So this is kind of work which you associate with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something you might see someone wear out at night,

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Speaker 1: I see you're telling me trench coats are sticking around.

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Speaker 2: my trench, so it can just be utilized like every year.

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Speaker 2: So basically, it's what you wear under that changes. So

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Speaker 2: last year we were wearing track pants under it. This

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Speaker 2: year we might be wearing our asymmetrical or our shares

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Speaker 2: But it's still that camel colored classic trench, so yay,

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Speaker 2: we can keep it okay.

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Speaker 1: And it's trans season all right. You know you can

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Speaker 1: wear it over something that's you know, lightweight or evening

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Speaker 1: I really like two jackets, or like a hoodie under

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Speaker 1: a trench. It looks so cool. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: I have that look I can, yes for sure, to

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Speaker 1: do with all the necklines, I don't know, and it

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Speaker 1: feels like am I going to the gym? Am I

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Speaker 1: going to be inspector? Gadget anyway, I'm going to try it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm glad trenches are here to stay. So are

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Speaker 1: and just.

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Speaker 2: Probably soon because as it gets into trans season all

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Speaker 2: that's when the trench coats come out good and you

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Speaker 2: can tell them it with shirting as well, and also

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Speaker 2: like maybe pinstripe sort of coming through and leather as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that will change it as well. That's my favorite

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Speaker 1: so far. So stadium ready, is this another sort of

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Speaker 1: sporty preppy thing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it definitely is. Everyone's spawty and you know, off

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Speaker 2: the back of the Australian Open, it's all about tennis core.

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Speaker 2: We'll see whites, mini skirts, more sporty trends coming through.

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Speaker 2: So I think you're going to see more of it.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand the miniskirt thing, but I have seen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels a bit youthful for me, and I

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Speaker 2: It, I know. And it's also because it's new to

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Speaker 2: I did mention last time, like the new bohemian this,

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Speaker 2: that's the fabrication, so lace, applicate, ruffles, pastels, shoes, kind

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like that, and we're doing it head to toe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm into that. Another one I loved in twenty

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Speaker 1: I think it's all about where and if anyone is

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Speaker 1: are they here to stay?

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Speaker 2: They are? Yea More and more denim brands are doing them.

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Speaker 1: And I find I've done them with flats. But I

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Speaker 1: I tried it on with one of my oversized blazers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the new take on a mum Jean

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Speaker 1: That makes me so happy. Okay, peep toe heels? What's

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Speaker 2: I like to think of it. It's probably the hardest

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Speaker 1: Okay, your khakis, your tankys.

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Speaker 1: Nicole lets? Do? Boogie and budget? I'm going to do

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Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to buy any new ones for a

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Speaker 2: Okay, So budget, I'm going to choose a one shoulder

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Speaker 2: So I'm going for black. It's from atmoss in here

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Speaker 2: and it's twenty nine ninety nine, so it's just a

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Speaker 2: like you know, my handkerchief skirts and my bubble hems

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Speaker 1: Oh, that'd be great with a barrel jean. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: into that, okay. And what color? Black? Black? Okay? I

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Speaker 1: like that. Well. My first trench, my budget trench, is

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Speaker 1: from Zara. They do such a good trench. It's the

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Speaker 1: classic trench coat with belt. One hundred and eighty five dollars.

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Speaker 1: I swear Zara. It does like twenty different styles of

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Speaker 1: trenches each year, but this is a very classic, that

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Speaker 1: sort of beigy color, the lapels, that just very very

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Speaker 1: I guess the Berberry want to be. I like it

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Speaker 2: I think it's good because it just it's got that

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Speaker 2: nice silhouette when it's longer.

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Speaker 1: Agreed, all right, what's your bouge asymmetric?

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Speaker 2: Akay, my bougie. I'm going with Camilla and Mark. So

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Speaker 2: it's the Elliott Mini dress. Four hundred dollars. It's black

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Speaker 2: against I'm going classic dollars.

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Speaker 1: Is good for Camilla and Mark.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, asymmetric at the neckline, but it's got long

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Speaker 2: fluted sleeves and it's cinched in the waist. But it

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Speaker 1: Okay, Evening I would say during the day, you would

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Speaker 2: I'm showing too much skin because I am not that tall. Okay,

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Speaker 2: i'd wear at a night with a heel on. I

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Speaker 2: guess a cotton blend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, so pretty classic. Yeah, well, surprise, surprise,

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Speaker 1: My boogie is also Camilla re Mark. Because who do

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Speaker 1: you think of when you think of fancy trench coats. Yep,

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Speaker 1: Camilla and Mark. It's the Evans classic knee length trench.

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Speaker 1: When you close your eyes and picture a classic trench coat,

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Speaker 1: it's this. The model's quite tall, so it falls just

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Speaker 1: below her knees. For me, that would be midcalf because

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Speaker 1: I'm not particularly tall as well. Eight hundred and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 1: If you ever do invest in a Camilla and mart

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Speaker 1: trench coat, you're gonna have it forever. I've got a

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Speaker 1: gray one that I got at one of their sample sales.

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Speaker 1: That looks brand new and I've thrashed it so I

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Speaker 1: love it. So that's on my wish list. But do

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Speaker 1: I need another trench?

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Speaker 2: You always do. I'm not gonna say no. Your mic

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Speaker 2: shop for a living.

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Speaker 1: Shopping person, Nicole. Thank you so much for your wisdom.

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Speaker 1: It was so good to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Lee,