1 00:00:11,149 --> 00:00:13,909 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,829 --> 00:00:17,869 Speaker 2: Mom and Mayor acknowledges the traditional owners of land and 3 00:00:17,949 --> 00:00:20,069 Speaker 2: waters that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,389 --> 00:00:23,909 Speaker 3: I am pregnanty. 5 00:00:26,989 --> 00:00:30,349 Speaker 2: Welcome to Hello Bump. We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and 6 00:00:30,429 --> 00:00:33,349 Speaker 2: more manageable. I'm Grace Rubray. I am pregnant for the 7 00:00:33,389 --> 00:00:37,069 Speaker 2: first time, and I'm starting to forget words. In fact, 8 00:00:37,469 --> 00:00:40,029 Speaker 2: I have to read this intro word for word from 9 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:41,829 Speaker 2: my laptop because I may forget it. 10 00:00:43,509 --> 00:00:45,669 Speaker 3: I'm you out of Pittman, former olympian. I'm now mother 11 00:00:45,749 --> 00:00:48,269 Speaker 3: of six and training to be an obstitrician and gynocologist. 12 00:00:48,429 --> 00:00:51,229 Speaker 2: Each episode, we're holding your hand week by week through 13 00:00:51,229 --> 00:00:55,709 Speaker 2: the mysterious, perplexing and sometimes but often exhausting miracle that 14 00:00:55,909 --> 00:00:56,709 Speaker 2: is pregnancy. 15 00:00:58,429 --> 00:01:01,029 Speaker 1: Week twenty seven this. 16 00:01:00,909 --> 00:01:03,309 Speaker 2: Is a huge milestone. So how big is our baby? 17 00:01:03,589 --> 00:01:06,709 Speaker 1: Massive? The size of a melon or terranium? 18 00:01:07,149 --> 00:01:11,909 Speaker 2: Yes, it's certainly feeling melon like like inside. 19 00:01:12,269 --> 00:01:15,909 Speaker 3: Absolutely a possum. There's an ossi animal possum. Animal possums 20 00:01:15,869 --> 00:01:16,269 Speaker 3: are Aussie. 21 00:01:16,349 --> 00:01:17,989 Speaker 2: Oh we've said sugar little. 22 00:01:17,989 --> 00:01:20,669 Speaker 3: I think about the fact very thing, you know, brush 23 00:01:20,709 --> 00:01:22,909 Speaker 3: tail possum possm Yeah, okay, good, yeah, all right, they're 24 00:01:22,909 --> 00:01:25,869 Speaker 3: thirty seven centimeters, so another big jump and nine hundred 25 00:01:25,869 --> 00:01:27,869 Speaker 3: gram so again approaching that one kilo mark. 26 00:01:28,949 --> 00:01:31,029 Speaker 2: What is happening for them and what features have they 27 00:01:31,109 --> 00:01:33,149 Speaker 2: developed or continued to develop this week? 28 00:01:33,349 --> 00:01:35,069 Speaker 3: I think continue to develop is actually the perfect way 29 00:01:35,109 --> 00:01:36,829 Speaker 3: to sort of phrase it, because baby is growing pretty 30 00:01:36,829 --> 00:01:39,029 Speaker 3: fast and maturing, but most of the main things are there. 31 00:01:39,029 --> 00:01:41,829 Speaker 3: It's now just getting bigger, stronger, and more effective, including 32 00:01:41,829 --> 00:01:44,429 Speaker 3: their immune system which is now becoming more sophisticated. So 33 00:01:44,469 --> 00:01:46,549 Speaker 3: it's around this time that you start getting the antibody 34 00:01:46,549 --> 00:01:49,509 Speaker 3: transfer from your placenta to your baby. So things that 35 00:01:49,549 --> 00:01:52,349 Speaker 3: you are being coming into contact with you will create 36 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:55,389 Speaker 3: antibodies and that'll actually have placential transfer it crosses over 37 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:56,909 Speaker 3: to your baby, which I think is very cool. 38 00:01:57,509 --> 00:02:00,029 Speaker 2: It's like, so if you have a cold, yes, and 39 00:02:00,069 --> 00:02:01,669 Speaker 2: then you've fought it off, they're going to have it. 40 00:02:01,789 --> 00:02:03,909 Speaker 2: And I'm sure we'll talk about the RSV vaccine in 41 00:02:03,989 --> 00:02:06,669 Speaker 2: later episodes because we're coming up to that. But they're 42 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:09,269 Speaker 2: starting to suck those things from you in a good way. 43 00:02:09,389 --> 00:02:11,389 Speaker 1: In a good way, yep. And there's the three of them. 44 00:02:11,389 --> 00:02:11,909 Speaker 1: I know, Grace Son. 45 00:02:11,909 --> 00:02:13,349 Speaker 3: I'm going to say now because it actually gives our 46 00:02:13,389 --> 00:02:15,069 Speaker 3: listeners some time to think about it when we do 47 00:02:15,109 --> 00:02:17,149 Speaker 3: discuss it down the track. We have three vaccinations we 48 00:02:17,189 --> 00:02:19,189 Speaker 3: talk about in pregnancy, which is influenza, can be any 49 00:02:19,229 --> 00:02:22,509 Speaker 3: time in pregnancy, your DTP, which is your potassis. So 50 00:02:22,549 --> 00:02:24,909 Speaker 3: hooping cough is rampant in Sydney at the moment. We 51 00:02:24,989 --> 00:02:26,949 Speaker 3: ideally like mums to have it, but at least if 52 00:02:27,029 --> 00:02:29,149 Speaker 3: you decide not to your family members, okay, so don't 53 00:02:29,189 --> 00:02:30,429 Speaker 3: let them bring it in the house. It needs to 54 00:02:30,429 --> 00:02:32,349 Speaker 3: be every pregnancy. So if grandma's saying I had it 55 00:02:32,429 --> 00:02:34,669 Speaker 3: last year for your brother's baby, she needs it again. 56 00:02:34,909 --> 00:02:37,509 Speaker 3: So it's important to know. And then, as you said, 57 00:02:37,629 --> 00:02:39,189 Speaker 3: RSPE is a new one that we're discussing, and then 58 00:02:39,229 --> 00:02:41,909 Speaker 3: COVID is optional, but it's you know, we have pretty 59 00:02:42,069 --> 00:02:44,469 Speaker 3: set guidelines because we want those antibodies to cross to 60 00:02:44,509 --> 00:02:46,309 Speaker 3: the baby to give them that protection in the first few. 61 00:02:46,149 --> 00:02:46,709 Speaker 1: Months of life. 62 00:02:46,749 --> 00:02:50,229 Speaker 2: I've actually just had my the hooping cough. Yes I 63 00:02:50,269 --> 00:02:52,629 Speaker 2: did a week or so ago, and then my partner's 64 00:02:52,869 --> 00:02:55,029 Speaker 2: going to get it as well. But how do you 65 00:02:55,149 --> 00:02:58,749 Speaker 2: kind of start that conversation with relatives or friends. So 66 00:02:58,749 --> 00:03:00,709 Speaker 2: it's not offensive to say you can't touch them. You 67 00:03:00,749 --> 00:03:03,629 Speaker 2: can't hold them. Is there any advice that you give 68 00:03:03,669 --> 00:03:05,949 Speaker 2: to your patients about how to start that conversation? 69 00:03:06,389 --> 00:03:09,589 Speaker 3: Super tough because obviously there's so much conversation around vaccinations. 70 00:03:09,629 --> 00:03:11,789 Speaker 3: People feel hard, you know, to vaccinate in pregnancy because 71 00:03:11,789 --> 00:03:12,669 Speaker 3: they're worried about outcomes. 72 00:03:12,709 --> 00:03:14,589 Speaker 1: So it's really tough to make someone you. 73 00:03:14,629 --> 00:03:16,229 Speaker 3: Have a discussion around whether they are going to have 74 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:18,549 Speaker 3: a vaccination and they're not the pregnant one, particularly if 75 00:03:18,549 --> 00:03:19,069 Speaker 3: it's your partner. 76 00:03:19,149 --> 00:03:20,909 Speaker 1: Boy that would cause some issues. 77 00:03:20,669 --> 00:03:23,389 Speaker 3: At home, I'm sure, but again it's everybody's an individual thing, 78 00:03:23,389 --> 00:03:24,749 Speaker 3: and you have to do what's right for you and 79 00:03:24,789 --> 00:03:27,189 Speaker 3: your baby in your own vaccination program, but also in 80 00:03:27,229 --> 00:03:29,549 Speaker 3: those that visit you, and you are absolutely allowed to say, 81 00:03:29,549 --> 00:03:31,869 Speaker 3: even if it's the person you love most, that I 82 00:03:31,869 --> 00:03:34,189 Speaker 3: don't want to expose my baby to something that could 83 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:36,749 Speaker 3: harm them. So I think that is a responsible parental 84 00:03:37,549 --> 00:03:40,589 Speaker 3: role rather than being awful and for. 85 00:03:40,549 --> 00:03:41,509 Speaker 1: Many, many weeks away. 86 00:03:41,869 --> 00:03:43,869 Speaker 3: But that conversation is hard because everyone wants to say 87 00:03:43,869 --> 00:03:46,309 Speaker 3: hello to your baby. Everybody comes in and it is 88 00:03:46,389 --> 00:03:48,469 Speaker 3: time for you to bond with them and be your 89 00:03:48,469 --> 00:03:52,549 Speaker 3: little family. So having some little pre written messages or 90 00:03:52,549 --> 00:03:54,709 Speaker 3: actually preempt it, like actually send messages to all your 91 00:03:54,709 --> 00:03:56,629 Speaker 3: families and friends saying we love you, but just letting 92 00:03:56,629 --> 00:03:59,429 Speaker 3: you know. This is our quirky prerequisites of what's required 93 00:03:59,469 --> 00:04:01,429 Speaker 3: before you be able to come hover, Bring a plate 94 00:04:01,429 --> 00:04:04,069 Speaker 3: of food, be vaccinated, and only come at this time 95 00:04:04,109 --> 00:04:04,429 Speaker 3: of the day. 96 00:04:04,469 --> 00:04:06,269 Speaker 2: You put the kettle on, because they will not be 97 00:04:06,309 --> 00:04:10,989 Speaker 2: doing anything for you. Exactly what's happening to me? Well, 98 00:04:11,029 --> 00:04:12,629 Speaker 2: we started to talk about it, what's happening with our 99 00:04:12,629 --> 00:04:14,189 Speaker 2: body or the things that we might be looking at, 100 00:04:14,229 --> 00:04:16,869 Speaker 2: but what else is happening for the mother? At twenty 101 00:04:16,909 --> 00:04:18,149 Speaker 2: seven weeks? 102 00:04:18,149 --> 00:04:20,749 Speaker 3: Time to start talking about stretch marks. Now, a lot 103 00:04:20,749 --> 00:04:23,669 Speaker 3: of the marginetic okay, so don't feel bad if no 104 00:04:23,709 --> 00:04:25,549 Speaker 3: matter how much cream you're putting on and you're trying 105 00:04:25,589 --> 00:04:28,709 Speaker 3: really hard, they just appear. So some of us are 106 00:04:28,789 --> 00:04:31,709 Speaker 3: lucky don't get any, but yet other things and some aren't, 107 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:33,109 Speaker 3: and it's hard. 108 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:35,869 Speaker 1: Do they go away? Not really? 109 00:04:35,869 --> 00:04:38,989 Speaker 3: They often shrink, you know, like some people find that 110 00:04:39,029 --> 00:04:40,869 Speaker 3: they have very little, so you know, they might be 111 00:04:40,949 --> 00:04:42,869 Speaker 3: quite light and then they fade over years to come. 112 00:04:42,909 --> 00:04:45,109 Speaker 3: There's certainly people that have treatment and you know, laser 113 00:04:45,149 --> 00:04:46,189 Speaker 3: therapian things I've heard. 114 00:04:46,189 --> 00:04:47,229 Speaker 1: I've never tried it because. 115 00:04:47,069 --> 00:04:49,389 Speaker 3: I'm lucky one that doesn't have them. But I think 116 00:04:49,389 --> 00:04:51,789 Speaker 3: it's one of those things they're change the narrative around it. 117 00:04:51,789 --> 00:04:53,469 Speaker 3: Like if you get stretch marks on your belly, just 118 00:04:53,509 --> 00:04:55,349 Speaker 3: like a caesarean, you know scar, if you have it, 119 00:04:55,549 --> 00:04:58,469 Speaker 3: they're the beautiful marks of you growing your baby. And 120 00:04:58,509 --> 00:05:00,429 Speaker 3: so you know, I have a few friends who are 121 00:05:00,429 --> 00:05:02,349 Speaker 3: African American descent and they have some of the most 122 00:05:02,389 --> 00:05:05,109 Speaker 3: wicked stretch marks I've ever seen, and they still run. 123 00:05:05,109 --> 00:05:07,109 Speaker 3: They aften athletes, They still run in their two pieces 124 00:05:07,109 --> 00:05:08,469 Speaker 3: and they just like, look at this, this is me 125 00:05:08,509 --> 00:05:10,989 Speaker 3: growing my baby and proof that I've done incredible thing 126 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:12,989 Speaker 3: and I'm coming out and attacking the world again. 127 00:05:13,669 --> 00:05:14,149 Speaker 1: So again. 128 00:05:14,189 --> 00:05:16,069 Speaker 3: And a lot of the time it's about our perception 129 00:05:16,109 --> 00:05:17,869 Speaker 3: of what other people are going to think about our bodies, 130 00:05:17,869 --> 00:05:20,349 Speaker 3: when actually it should be Wow, I had the privilege 131 00:05:20,389 --> 00:05:22,789 Speaker 3: to be a woman who carried a baby, and you know, 132 00:05:22,829 --> 00:05:24,189 Speaker 3: these are the marks I'm left with. 133 00:05:24,309 --> 00:05:26,189 Speaker 2: It's a hard conversation to have because a lot of 134 00:05:26,189 --> 00:05:28,829 Speaker 2: people don't have a great relationship with their body changing 135 00:05:28,869 --> 00:05:32,309 Speaker 2: beyond their control. And that can be something from like 136 00:05:32,509 --> 00:05:36,549 Speaker 2: a body dysmorphous situation or bad eating habits or history 137 00:05:36,589 --> 00:05:40,349 Speaker 2: of any type of eating disorder. So if people haven't 138 00:05:40,389 --> 00:05:43,909 Speaker 2: found that joy within the change in their body, what 139 00:05:43,949 --> 00:05:45,389 Speaker 2: are some of the things that they can do to 140 00:05:45,509 --> 00:05:47,629 Speaker 2: help their mental space around that. 141 00:05:47,789 --> 00:05:49,429 Speaker 3: Well, that's a tough one. I think we've sort of 142 00:05:49,429 --> 00:05:51,429 Speaker 3: touched on it. I think reaching out and talking about 143 00:05:51,429 --> 00:05:53,429 Speaker 3: it is a big one if it really is playing 144 00:05:53,469 --> 00:05:54,869 Speaker 3: like I have, I had needing disorder as an athlete, 145 00:05:54,909 --> 00:05:58,509 Speaker 3: I had quite significant disordered eating regime which almost went 146 00:05:58,549 --> 00:06:01,229 Speaker 3: away as from a sport when you know, sort of ended. 147 00:06:01,629 --> 00:06:03,749 Speaker 3: But I think it's really important to acknowledge that that's 148 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:05,829 Speaker 3: the case. Talk to a few people, find out what 149 00:06:05,869 --> 00:06:08,749 Speaker 3: your triggers are, and you know, that's the time where 150 00:06:08,789 --> 00:06:10,469 Speaker 3: you've got to be really careful with intoad like we 151 00:06:10,509 --> 00:06:12,709 Speaker 3: talked about before, where you're not doing that comparisons to 152 00:06:12,749 --> 00:06:15,909 Speaker 3: others because everybody's so beautiful and so different, and it 153 00:06:15,989 --> 00:06:17,109 Speaker 3: might be time that you need to check in with 154 00:06:17,109 --> 00:06:19,109 Speaker 3: a psychologists if it's truly plaguing you in that space, 155 00:06:19,109 --> 00:06:21,189 Speaker 3: because it's you know, it is a remarkable thing, but 156 00:06:21,229 --> 00:06:22,829 Speaker 3: so many of us can't see the wood through the trees, 157 00:06:22,869 --> 00:06:24,389 Speaker 3: like it's just you're so caught up in the moment 158 00:06:24,389 --> 00:06:26,429 Speaker 3: and the emotions and the hormones and everything. But I 159 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:28,229 Speaker 3: can tell you one lovely thing, is it is true 160 00:06:28,229 --> 00:06:31,429 Speaker 3: that when that baby arrives, you're very distracted, so you're not. 161 00:06:31,389 --> 00:06:34,389 Speaker 2: Going to care. I love that. Is this normal? 162 00:06:34,509 --> 00:06:35,109 Speaker 1: Is normal? 163 00:06:35,429 --> 00:06:39,349 Speaker 2: Now? Is this normal having another ultrasound? Because some people 164 00:06:39,389 --> 00:06:42,229 Speaker 2: who told me they have had a thirty week ultrasound 165 00:06:42,269 --> 00:06:45,469 Speaker 2: while they're booking in around about now for this next ultrasound, 166 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:48,709 Speaker 2: But then in other departments they're not booking that in 167 00:06:48,749 --> 00:06:50,669 Speaker 2: And the last time you're going to see your baby 168 00:06:50,709 --> 00:06:52,829 Speaker 2: is that twenty week ultrasound and you're only being checked 169 00:06:52,829 --> 00:06:55,549 Speaker 2: by a doppler. Why are some people getting an ultrasound 170 00:06:55,589 --> 00:06:56,349 Speaker 2: and some people aren't? 171 00:06:56,709 --> 00:06:59,149 Speaker 3: Well, sometimes it's maternal choice. So women decide they don't 172 00:06:59,149 --> 00:07:00,749 Speaker 3: want any more ultrasounds in pregnancy. 173 00:07:00,829 --> 00:07:03,869 Speaker 2: Why would they not want more? Who is there something about? 174 00:07:04,029 --> 00:07:05,189 Speaker 2: Like is there X ray? 175 00:07:05,389 --> 00:07:06,349 Speaker 1: Is it not the safe? 176 00:07:06,469 --> 00:07:06,669 Speaker 2: Like? 177 00:07:07,149 --> 00:07:08,789 Speaker 3: There's a multitude of things. So, because I ask a 178 00:07:08,829 --> 00:07:10,109 Speaker 3: lot of women in this space, they don't want to 179 00:07:10,229 --> 00:07:12,029 Speaker 3: know the position of their baby necessarily. They don't want 180 00:07:12,029 --> 00:07:13,309 Speaker 3: to know if their babies getting too big for their 181 00:07:13,309 --> 00:07:15,709 Speaker 3: body because I think it'll dissuade them from a vaginal birth. 182 00:07:16,509 --> 00:07:18,109 Speaker 3: They want the secret of not knowing what they look 183 00:07:18,189 --> 00:07:20,069 Speaker 3: like until later. So I guess they're just wanting it 184 00:07:20,069 --> 00:07:22,869 Speaker 3: as natural as possible, and it's still medical from an 185 00:07:22,869 --> 00:07:25,429 Speaker 3: interventional perspective. It might find something that I want to 186 00:07:25,429 --> 00:07:27,429 Speaker 3: see and then they have to have multiple ultrasounds after that. 187 00:07:27,549 --> 00:07:30,349 Speaker 3: But the twenty eight week ultrasound in a public hospital 188 00:07:30,389 --> 00:07:32,829 Speaker 3: is recommended for women with diabetes, for women with hypertension, 189 00:07:32,829 --> 00:07:35,389 Speaker 3: for women who've had a previous small baby, or any 190 00:07:35,469 --> 00:07:38,789 Speaker 3: real medical condition that might affect the pregnancy. So even 191 00:07:38,869 --> 00:07:41,069 Speaker 3: Southeast Asian women, for example, are a higher risk of 192 00:07:41,109 --> 00:07:43,189 Speaker 3: smaller babies. So we often say, if you've got that 193 00:07:43,229 --> 00:07:45,629 Speaker 3: plus for example, you know you smoke or you have 194 00:07:45,669 --> 00:07:47,549 Speaker 3: a high ber mit. There's plenty of reasons you can 195 00:07:47,549 --> 00:07:49,229 Speaker 3: sneak in for that ultrasound if you want to see 196 00:07:49,229 --> 00:07:49,709 Speaker 3: a baby. 197 00:07:49,989 --> 00:07:51,629 Speaker 1: Because I love it. I would have would have had. 198 00:07:51,589 --> 00:07:53,349 Speaker 3: An auld hunt every week because I you know, watch 199 00:07:53,389 --> 00:07:55,789 Speaker 3: the baby on the scan. But that's the reason we 200 00:07:55,829 --> 00:07:58,109 Speaker 3: do that at twenty eight weeks. Why twenty eight weeks 201 00:07:58,149 --> 00:08:00,149 Speaker 3: because it's around the time we start to see differences 202 00:08:00,189 --> 00:08:03,229 Speaker 3: in babies growth, and so we use it as a baseline. 203 00:08:03,309 --> 00:08:05,509 Speaker 3: So unless it's multiple pregnancy because by then you've probably 204 00:08:05,509 --> 00:08:07,789 Speaker 3: already had lots of ultrasounds because we scan every two 205 00:08:07,829 --> 00:08:10,469 Speaker 3: to four weeks for twins and multiples. But if it's 206 00:08:10,509 --> 00:08:13,309 Speaker 3: your first ultrasound after the morphology, it'll be the baseline 207 00:08:13,349 --> 00:08:15,669 Speaker 3: we use ongoing. So for many women they have another 208 00:08:15,669 --> 00:08:17,669 Speaker 3: two ultrasounds if it's the high risk pregnancies, and one 209 00:08:17,709 --> 00:08:19,469 Speaker 3: at twenty eight weeks, one again at thirty two weeks, 210 00:08:19,509 --> 00:08:21,669 Speaker 3: and one at thirty six, and we actually look at 211 00:08:21,669 --> 00:08:22,909 Speaker 3: the growth between the three of them. 212 00:08:23,069 --> 00:08:25,349 Speaker 1: Has babies growth dropped off? Has it accelerated? 213 00:08:25,589 --> 00:08:27,989 Speaker 3: You know significantly that we need to consider changing the 214 00:08:28,069 --> 00:08:30,629 Speaker 3: plan for pregnancy, And so it's important to sort of 215 00:08:30,669 --> 00:08:32,949 Speaker 3: have them if you've been recommended, because it allows us 216 00:08:33,549 --> 00:08:35,349 Speaker 3: what I guess the grace of the thing is, imagine 217 00:08:35,349 --> 00:08:37,469 Speaker 3: getting a thirty six weeks You've got a teeny tiny baby, 218 00:08:37,749 --> 00:08:39,629 Speaker 3: but we have nothing to compare it to, so it 219 00:08:39,629 --> 00:08:43,149 Speaker 3: gives us that tracking trajectory to say, right, well, baby 220 00:08:43,189 --> 00:08:45,029 Speaker 3: was already small at twenty eight weeks, they're actually doing great, 221 00:08:45,029 --> 00:08:47,229 Speaker 3: They're actually gone up a few centiles. When not as 222 00:08:47,309 --> 00:08:50,069 Speaker 3: concerned it's going to be less intervention rather than more, 223 00:08:50,509 --> 00:08:51,229 Speaker 3: and what can we. 224 00:08:51,189 --> 00:08:53,029 Speaker 2: Do the last week of our second track mess day. 225 00:08:53,069 --> 00:08:54,469 Speaker 2: Is there anything we need to be thinking about on 226 00:08:54,469 --> 00:08:56,629 Speaker 2: our checklist if we are booking in for that ultrasound, 227 00:08:56,789 --> 00:08:59,469 Speaker 2: or is there anything more holistic we can be doing. 228 00:08:59,789 --> 00:09:01,029 Speaker 1: Sure, I think a couple of things. 229 00:09:01,109 --> 00:09:03,189 Speaker 3: Just to note this, as you approach twenty eight weeks, 230 00:09:03,189 --> 00:09:05,429 Speaker 3: if you have that negative blood group, it's about time 231 00:09:05,469 --> 00:09:07,429 Speaker 3: to have You may have had an insiding event in 232 00:09:07,469 --> 00:09:09,109 Speaker 3: the past, but you definitely need to have your anti 233 00:09:09,149 --> 00:09:10,989 Speaker 3: d around this time. You have it again in the 234 00:09:10,989 --> 00:09:13,629 Speaker 3: third trimester, so book that in. You'll have those blood tests. 235 00:09:13,669 --> 00:09:15,669 Speaker 3: Remember we talked about the syphilis is going to come up, 236 00:09:15,709 --> 00:09:18,589 Speaker 3: and you have your OgTs hopefully done, and we'll recheck 237 00:09:18,669 --> 00:09:20,229 Speaker 3: your eye and things like that. So it's just kind 238 00:09:20,229 --> 00:09:22,109 Speaker 3: of time to check back in with your medical team 239 00:09:22,109 --> 00:09:24,429 Speaker 3: and redo it. It's about fifteen percent of women will 240 00:09:24,469 --> 00:09:27,029 Speaker 3: need that anti antid vaccination and. 241 00:09:26,949 --> 00:09:28,949 Speaker 1: The red flags red flags, red flags, red flags. 242 00:09:28,949 --> 00:09:30,989 Speaker 3: If there's any concerns, call your birth unit. 243 00:09:34,429 --> 00:09:37,149 Speaker 2: My toolkit this week. You touched on it a little 244 00:09:37,189 --> 00:09:38,989 Speaker 2: bit last week when we were talking about a bum 245 00:09:39,149 --> 00:09:43,349 Speaker 2: related clothing Mine is Facebook marketplace for baby items. Great 246 00:09:43,789 --> 00:09:45,709 Speaker 2: pretty much any if you're in a city and I'm 247 00:09:45,709 --> 00:09:49,229 Speaker 2: sure if there's regional Facebook ones that exist, there's normally 248 00:09:49,229 --> 00:09:51,669 Speaker 2: a like pay It Forward group, which is people getting 249 00:09:51,749 --> 00:09:55,149 Speaker 2: rid of free stuff. I got a co sleeper bassinet 250 00:09:55,269 --> 00:09:57,709 Speaker 2: for free, fantastic, which I'm stoked about. I got a 251 00:09:57,709 --> 00:10:00,029 Speaker 2: pregnancy pillow for free. Some people might think that's weird 252 00:10:00,069 --> 00:10:02,109 Speaker 2: to get a secondhand pillow, but I don't care, Like 253 00:10:02,669 --> 00:10:04,549 Speaker 2: who cares? I don't want to pay for it. And 254 00:10:04,589 --> 00:10:07,109 Speaker 2: I also got a two hundred dollars Bugaboo pram. 255 00:10:07,349 --> 00:10:07,829 Speaker 1: Wow. 256 00:10:08,069 --> 00:10:10,629 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing from a very rich suburb away from 257 00:10:10,629 --> 00:10:12,309 Speaker 2: where I live. But you did the drive, but I 258 00:10:12,349 --> 00:10:15,269 Speaker 2: did the drive. But a two hundred dollars Bugaboo. 259 00:10:15,469 --> 00:10:15,909 Speaker 1: Yeah. 260 00:10:16,029 --> 00:10:17,909 Speaker 2: And I think for me, the only thing I'm looking 261 00:10:17,949 --> 00:10:22,109 Speaker 2: to buy new is probably a car seat, okay, everything else. 262 00:10:22,149 --> 00:10:23,509 Speaker 3: Because you don't know if it's been in an accident 263 00:10:23,549 --> 00:10:25,349 Speaker 3: or anything before, so it's probably is the safer thing 264 00:10:25,429 --> 00:10:27,989 Speaker 3: to buy you. I mean, I bought one secondhand, but 265 00:10:28,029 --> 00:10:29,709 Speaker 3: you know, I think it's again dependent on how much 266 00:10:29,749 --> 00:10:32,109 Speaker 3: you trust the person who's owned the seat before. I 267 00:10:32,149 --> 00:10:35,389 Speaker 3: bought a snoo secondhand. You got a snow for my twins, 268 00:10:35,469 --> 00:10:37,229 Speaker 3: not for the other pregnancies, but when I had two 269 00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:40,229 Speaker 3: little babies to try and you know, one's trying to 270 00:10:40,229 --> 00:10:42,149 Speaker 3: feed and the other ones trying to sleep. I think 271 00:10:42,149 --> 00:10:44,069 Speaker 3: the thing to remember with Facebook marketplace too, is if 272 00:10:44,069 --> 00:10:45,509 Speaker 3: you buy it for something, you can often sell it 273 00:10:45,549 --> 00:10:47,429 Speaker 3: for the same thing. So it's just having the budget 274 00:10:47,469 --> 00:10:50,389 Speaker 3: there to buy it and then often I made money 275 00:10:50,429 --> 00:10:52,229 Speaker 3: on my Snow, I'm going to be honest because I 276 00:10:52,229 --> 00:10:53,509 Speaker 3: did the same as you. I went and got it 277 00:10:53,549 --> 00:10:55,469 Speaker 3: from somewhere miles away, and then I sold. 278 00:10:55,269 --> 00:10:57,549 Speaker 1: It locally and someone paid it one hundred bucks for it. 279 00:10:58,349 --> 00:11:00,829 Speaker 2: I just think about, like, what information have I pushed 280 00:11:00,829 --> 00:11:02,829 Speaker 2: out of my brain to now know that the snoo 281 00:11:02,989 --> 00:11:06,509 Speaker 2: is like the Royalty Love cribs And I'm now like, oh, 282 00:11:06,589 --> 00:11:07,229 Speaker 2: that's impressive. 283 00:11:07,309 --> 00:11:10,309 Speaker 1: I know it is. It is very impressive. Have to 284 00:11:10,309 --> 00:11:10,869 Speaker 1: be honest with you. 285 00:11:10,909 --> 00:11:12,029 Speaker 3: But I think the other thing is to write a 286 00:11:12,069 --> 00:11:14,269 Speaker 3: list now everything you want yep, and then go and 287 00:11:14,269 --> 00:11:16,469 Speaker 3: speak to someone who's had babies and they'll cross three 288 00:11:16,509 --> 00:11:17,149 Speaker 3: quarters of it off. 289 00:11:17,189 --> 00:11:19,389 Speaker 1: This is time to save money because you're gonna need 290 00:11:19,429 --> 00:11:22,389 Speaker 1: it down the track. Yes, and you could always buy. 291 00:11:22,149 --> 00:11:25,629 Speaker 3: Something from one of the baby bunting stop shops and 292 00:11:25,669 --> 00:11:28,709 Speaker 3: it'll likely be delivered within forty eight hours, so you 293 00:11:28,789 --> 00:11:31,389 Speaker 3: don't need to buy everything now, and there's so much 294 00:11:31,429 --> 00:11:33,669 Speaker 3: stuff that gets unwrapped and not used, and it's just 295 00:11:33,669 --> 00:11:34,309 Speaker 3: a way of money. 296 00:11:34,549 --> 00:11:36,389 Speaker 2: I will say when I went to a baby bunting 297 00:11:36,429 --> 00:11:39,989 Speaker 2: and another baby store, I got quite overwhelmed in there 298 00:11:40,069 --> 00:11:43,309 Speaker 2: because they came to me about the prams and said 299 00:11:43,909 --> 00:11:46,829 Speaker 2: how fast do you think you'll walk? And what type 300 00:11:46,829 --> 00:11:51,109 Speaker 2: of ground will you be on? Most commonly to talk 301 00:11:51,109 --> 00:11:53,909 Speaker 2: about the wheels that I would want, and I was like, well, well, 302 00:11:54,589 --> 00:11:58,469 Speaker 2: too much, yeah, exactly, too many questions. I would just 303 00:11:58,549 --> 00:12:02,749 Speaker 2: want that thing that has the coffeeholder of the important 304 00:12:02,749 --> 00:12:04,989 Speaker 2: things in That's all I want. And then I just 305 00:12:05,029 --> 00:12:07,989 Speaker 2: spoke to friends and I think you find out the brands, 306 00:12:08,069 --> 00:12:10,029 Speaker 2: and then I heard that a Bugaboo was a good brand, 307 00:12:10,709 --> 00:12:13,189 Speaker 2: and then my phone just was like, hey, here's one 308 00:12:13,709 --> 00:12:15,069 Speaker 2: great Damne. 309 00:12:15,149 --> 00:12:16,709 Speaker 3: And you can have more than one PRAM, like I 310 00:12:16,709 --> 00:12:18,749 Speaker 3: think you have different prams for different things, like I 311 00:12:18,749 --> 00:12:21,109 Speaker 3: do have a running PRAM because obviously I run regularly. 312 00:12:21,149 --> 00:12:23,149 Speaker 3: And then your shopping pram things that you're to look 313 00:12:23,189 --> 00:12:24,309 Speaker 3: at is are you going to shop a lot? Are 314 00:12:24,309 --> 00:12:25,749 Speaker 3: you going to be able to fit it through shopping aisles? 315 00:12:25,789 --> 00:12:28,509 Speaker 3: So and just remember you can swap like fokes again. 316 00:12:28,549 --> 00:12:29,749 Speaker 3: If you buy a second hand, you sell it, you 317 00:12:29,749 --> 00:12:30,349 Speaker 3: buy something else. 318 00:12:30,469 --> 00:12:35,989 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was cheap. We hope you enjoyed this episode 319 00:12:36,029 --> 00:12:38,629 Speaker 2: of Hello Bump. 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