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Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: this spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick

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Speaker 1: and today I'm joined by Tina Burg. Hello. Are we

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Speaker 1: passed saying your title? Now? Yeah, we don't need to

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Speaker 1: any more. The spillers heard the discourse. We're no, I'm kidding.

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Speaker 1: I'm pop culture and Social editor here at Mamma Mia. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So Tina is filling here today because poor Emily Vernon

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Speaker 1: is a little bit under the weather, wishing her thoughts

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Speaker 1: and prayers. But it's a good thing you're here because

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Speaker 1: we have two areas of your special interest to discuss today.

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Speaker 1: One of those is that the greatest reality show of

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Speaker 1: And also we have the first trailer from what has

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Speaker 1: shaping up to be the most controversial movie of the year.

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Speaker 1: To get into that. We haven't shared our thoughts. We

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Speaker 1: might fight, we might cry who would not choose friendships

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Speaker 1: will end, but also boss manager and friendship bringing that up?

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Speaker 1: Please don't tell people I'm a boss. I'm calling young

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Speaker 1: anyway you have I actually don't even know what you're

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Speaker 1: going to bring it up? You have something really important,

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Speaker 1: some breaking news that you need to share with the spillers. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I have, like all my special interests

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Speaker 1: in just making news headlines. One Lewis Pullman, don't know

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Speaker 1: if you saw I saw in Venice Film Festival. Guys,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't heard, we did a whole episode, go

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Speaker 1: check it out because we love that man and he's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say, every time I see Lewis Pullman

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Speaker 1: making out with Kaya Gerber, those two gorgeous Nippo babies,

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Speaker 2: Justin Bieber playing in the background, that should be me?

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Speaker 1: Which one? They're both hot? I take either? I would

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Speaker 1: other creepy interest this week? My delightful interest this week

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Speaker 1: is that the producer of the New Heights podcast, which

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Speaker 1: And I just think that's so beautiful. And I know

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Speaker 1: that is not informational news that matters to anyone but me.

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Speaker 2: But like, he's the producer of the New Heights podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's known as Intern Brandon, but he's like kind of

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Speaker 1: like the monetious Warren and Tina Burke of the New

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Speaker 1: Heights podcast universe exactly. So we are the people behind

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Speaker 1: Laura Brodnick, so just as he is the people behind

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey. Mon is our producer of

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Speaker 1: the Spills. She's amazing. And then he also though comes

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I would love to be the slightly dumber than

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Speaker 1: having a huge identity crisis. Thanks for bringing that up.

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Speaker 1: Laura Brodnick, and so their producer got engaged. It's lovely

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Speaker 1: so non rescript Brandon. Yes, oh that poor boy, but

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Speaker 1: hello Dynamic. Wait, did Brandon get a full episode to

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Speaker 1: I'm like emotionally spent. No one. No, I mean, no

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Speaker 2: What he can tell me, I will tell mon.

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Speaker 1: We will set up in the bushes like the tailorscope photographer,

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Speaker 1: Congrats to Brandon was at the point of this. I

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Speaker 1: Yees. So many months ago it was announced that Emerald Fanel,

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Speaker 1: unless this movie is bad, and then it's open slaughter

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Speaker 1: Yes, everyone was really excited because she writes these incredible

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Speaker 1: was so excited to see, after promising young woman after Saltburn,

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Speaker 1: and all my extensive notes. So the book was written

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Speaker 2: What a nice Valentine's Day. But we will have met

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Speaker 1: like it is about that book. It just feels like

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Speaker 1: you could have done anything else and made this movie.

423
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Speaker 1: But I actually don't. I think she's clearly right. She

424
00:19:12,344 --> 00:19:14,384
Speaker 1: took the inspiration and she's run with it. Yeah, and

425
00:19:14,424 --> 00:19:16,504
Speaker 1: so I want to see what happens. But I understand

426
00:19:16,544 --> 00:19:19,144
Speaker 1: why people are upset. I had my own upsets this year. Yeah,

427
00:19:19,184 --> 00:19:21,464
Speaker 1: if you're feeling distressed about this day, we hear you,

428
00:19:21,544 --> 00:19:24,344
Speaker 1: We see you. I didn't expect a through line from

429
00:19:24,384 --> 00:19:26,824
Speaker 1: the Jurassic Park franchise to Wuthering Heights, But that is

430
00:19:26,904 --> 00:19:29,664
Speaker 1: modern cinema for you. That is modern cine. Valentine's Day.

431
00:19:29,744 --> 00:19:31,624
Speaker 1: We've also posted the trailer. She said this the top.

432
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Speaker 1: We posted the trailer on the spill Instagram account. Have

433
00:19:34,064 --> 00:19:36,104
Speaker 1: a look, tell us what you think and yeah, bring

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Speaker 1: on the smart.

435
00:19:36,784 --> 00:19:37,664
Speaker 2: Yeah, bring it on.

436
00:19:40,184 --> 00:19:42,624
Speaker 1: So very sadly, except for the people involved, just for

437
00:19:42,624 --> 00:19:44,784
Speaker 1: the people who are watching it. Very Sadly, one of

438
00:19:44,784 --> 00:19:47,424
Speaker 1: the greatest reality shows of twenty twenty five has come

439
00:19:47,464 --> 00:19:49,824
Speaker 1: to an end, and that is a civil lawsuit that

440
00:19:49,984 --> 00:19:52,944
Speaker 1: was brought against musician Cardi B. This has been the

441
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Speaker 1: most fascinating thing to watch maybe all year for me.

442
00:19:56,864 --> 00:19:58,824
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was huge, huge news to me.

443
00:19:58,944 --> 00:20:01,184
Speaker 1: The tiktoks I was just like scrolling in bed every

444
00:20:01,264 --> 00:20:04,184
Speaker 1: night having a giggle while also acknowledging serious trucks. Well,

445
00:20:04,224 --> 00:20:05,944
Speaker 1: this is why we waited for it to be over,

446
00:20:06,064 --> 00:20:08,184
Speaker 1: because the thing is Cardi B was there was a

447
00:20:08,184 --> 00:20:11,824
Speaker 1: civil lawsuit against her from a security guard at a

448
00:20:11,864 --> 00:20:15,624
Speaker 1: doctor's office for an altercation that happened back in twenty

449
00:20:15,744 --> 00:20:18,824
Speaker 1: eighteen when Cardi B was pregnant with her first child.

450
00:20:18,904 --> 00:20:21,904
Speaker 1: She and offset now have three children since that happened.

451
00:20:21,904 --> 00:20:24,544
Speaker 1: So this has been going for a while. And as

452
00:20:24,704 --> 00:20:27,464
Speaker 1: much as the videos coming out were so funny and

453
00:20:27,464 --> 00:20:29,744
Speaker 1: they were all going viral, I sort of wanted to

454
00:20:29,744 --> 00:20:32,384
Speaker 1: wait till the trial was over because if she had

455
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Speaker 1: been found, if she had been found to have assaulted

456
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Speaker 1: that security guard and she was clear of all that,

457
00:20:38,544 --> 00:20:41,104
Speaker 1: it would have been a bit harder to you.

458
00:20:41,064 --> 00:20:42,464
Speaker 2: Know, a chat about the silliness.

459
00:20:42,704 --> 00:20:46,344
Speaker 1: Yeah, the court cases finished, Both of the women involved,

460
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Speaker 1: both Cardi B and the security guard who made the

461
00:20:48,384 --> 00:20:51,704
Speaker 1: allegations and sued her, came out and addressed reporters. Obviously,

462
00:20:51,744 --> 00:20:54,944
Speaker 1: security guard is putting in a plea to have it overturned.

463
00:20:55,024 --> 00:20:56,664
Speaker 1: But it's all kind of done and dusted now, so

464
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Speaker 1: now we can go back through what transpired exactly. And

465
00:21:00,704 --> 00:21:02,944
Speaker 1: the reason we were seeing this all is because it

466
00:21:03,064 --> 00:21:05,304
Speaker 1: was all the footage from inside the court room. It

467
00:21:05,344 --> 00:21:07,384
Speaker 1: wasn't a closed trial because it was a civil lawsuit.

468
00:21:07,784 --> 00:21:11,224
Speaker 1: All of the trial was being live stream, so you

469
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Speaker 1: could sit down and watch it in full, which many

470
00:21:13,344 --> 00:21:15,544
Speaker 1: people did, or you could just watch the edits every

471
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Speaker 1: night that were coming out of all the different testimonies.

472
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Speaker 1: So what the allegation was so Carti B said that

473
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Speaker 1: she was pregnant with her first child. She hadn't told anyone.

474
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Speaker 1: I love how she said in the when she was

475
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Speaker 1: on the stand, She's like, hadn't told anyone's a secret.

476
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Speaker 1: I had told my close circle of friends, I hadn't

477
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Speaker 1: hadn't told my publicist, and I hadn't told my parents.

478
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Speaker 1: And I was like, I love that. That is the

479
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Speaker 1: change very clear. Her parents not in her homic cycle,

480
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Speaker 1: so she was worried about people finding out she was pregnant,

481
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Speaker 1: so she had booked an obstrician's appointment to have the

482
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Speaker 1: baby checked when the medical center was closed, so she

483
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Speaker 1: could go in and no one would see her. Because

484
00:21:51,984 --> 00:21:55,304
Speaker 1: obviously there's people who wait outside those clinics, especially in

485
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Speaker 1: LA where she was, who wait outside those clinics, who

486
00:21:58,064 --> 00:22:01,904
Speaker 1: sell medical information to places like TMZ, who sell paparazzi photos,

487
00:22:02,064 --> 00:22:04,064
Speaker 1: and I understand that why she wanted to keep it private.

488
00:22:04,544 --> 00:22:08,824
Speaker 1: So she so the security guard and Carti B had

489
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Speaker 1: they both obviously told different sides the story, but Cardi

490
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Speaker 1: B alleged the security guard was following her through the

491
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Speaker 1: medical center and filming her, and she asked her to

492
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Speaker 1: stop filming her, and then they started having a fight

493
00:22:21,424 --> 00:22:24,384
Speaker 1: back and forth, and the security guard alleged that Cardi

494
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Speaker 1: B had physically attacked her, yelled at her, and scraped

495
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Speaker 1: her face with her very long fake nails. And then

496
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of back and forth during the

497
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Speaker 1: court case of whether the length of the talents that

498
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Speaker 1: she had at the time could cause the amount of

499
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Speaker 1: damage that was said. So you know, mail technicians were

500
00:22:42,824 --> 00:22:47,184
Speaker 1: were refral Yeah, yes, and obviously the security guard also

501
00:22:47,224 --> 00:22:51,224
Speaker 1: said that she had needed like corrective surgery in order

502
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Speaker 1: to you know, remove the scarring.

503
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Speaker 2: Yes, but also there was a real lack of evidence.

504
00:22:56,344 --> 00:22:58,384
Speaker 1: Oh, there was a lack of evidence that there being

505
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Speaker 1: a scar on her face at any point in time.

506
00:23:00,944 --> 00:23:03,544
Speaker 1: So none of this by itself is funny. You just

507
00:23:03,744 --> 00:23:05,944
Speaker 1: hear this, you know, you could look at it through

508
00:23:05,944 --> 00:23:08,464
Speaker 1: the lens that a person with a heart and emotion

509
00:23:08,664 --> 00:23:11,064
Speaker 1: that's not us would look at this saying that there

510
00:23:11,144 --> 00:23:13,184
Speaker 1: is a woman who lost her job because Securitiu lost

511
00:23:13,184 --> 00:23:15,464
Speaker 1: her job over this, who says that a very rich

512
00:23:15,504 --> 00:23:18,424
Speaker 1: and powerful celebrity attacked her. And then you got Cardi B,

513
00:23:18,544 --> 00:23:20,424
Speaker 1: who said she was in a very vulnerable state because

514
00:23:20,424 --> 00:23:23,304
Speaker 1: she was pregnant, saying this woman, who she says is

515
00:23:23,384 --> 00:23:26,304
Speaker 1: much larger than her, was more aggressive than her, assaulted her.

516
00:23:26,824 --> 00:23:29,024
Speaker 1: That would have been a very serious news story. But

517
00:23:29,104 --> 00:23:31,544
Speaker 1: the fact is that there was a lot of testimony

518
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Speaker 1: over many days. So Cardi B is on the stand

519
00:23:33,504 --> 00:23:37,264
Speaker 1: across many days, and the things that woman had to say. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I really love Cardi B. And she is so much

521
00:23:40,624 --> 00:23:44,584
Speaker 1: smarter than people realize. She's very engaged politically, she has

522
00:23:44,624 --> 00:23:46,824
Speaker 1: a lot to say about the culture and the news cycle.

523
00:23:47,224 --> 00:23:49,904
Speaker 1: And so this is a very smart woman and she's

524
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Speaker 1: being sued for something that in her mind she's like,

525
00:23:51,664 --> 00:23:54,184
Speaker 1: first of all, didn't happen. Second, more ridiculous, and third

526
00:23:54,184 --> 00:23:55,904
Speaker 1: you're coming at me just for my money. So she

527
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Speaker 1: goes in feeling that type of way, and she makes

528
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Speaker 1: sure she puts on a show to an extent of

529
00:24:01,864 --> 00:24:02,824
Speaker 1: what she can control.

530
00:24:02,904 --> 00:24:05,304
Speaker 2: Right, she dresses the part. She looks amazing.

531
00:24:05,344 --> 00:24:08,544
Speaker 1: She's got a new wig every day, her makeup is phenomenal,

532
00:24:08,704 --> 00:24:13,144
Speaker 1: looked freaking gorgeous, like she's bombshell wig, like one of

533
00:24:13,144 --> 00:24:14,904
Speaker 1: the blonde wigs was kind of like the big Sabrina

534
00:24:14,904 --> 00:24:17,384
Speaker 1: carp into her hair at the moment with the huge curls. Like.

535
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Speaker 2: She looked amazing. She pulled a look every day.

536
00:24:20,424 --> 00:24:23,264
Speaker 1: But she also looked like she was like in a movie,

537
00:24:23,384 --> 00:24:25,224
Speaker 1: like like she was like legally blonde with She's like,

538
00:24:25,304 --> 00:24:27,464
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dress like a lawyer, but my version of

539
00:24:27,504 --> 00:24:29,664
Speaker 1: a law Yeah, So she looked like it was wawya Barbie,

540
00:24:29,744 --> 00:24:30,584
Speaker 1: Corporate Barbie.

541
00:24:30,664 --> 00:24:31,584
Speaker 2: It was so good.

542
00:24:31,664 --> 00:24:33,704
Speaker 1: And so she showed up every day, sat on the

543
00:24:33,744 --> 00:24:36,144
Speaker 1: stand and obviously, like, like you said, there's some serious

544
00:24:36,144 --> 00:24:38,544
Speaker 1: things being said here. These allegations are serious, but she's

545
00:24:38,584 --> 00:24:41,544
Speaker 1: being asked some of the most ridiculous questions. Okay, here's

546
00:24:41,584 --> 00:24:43,904
Speaker 1: my question. I'm not I'm not angry at the security guard.

547
00:24:43,904 --> 00:24:46,584
Speaker 1: I'm sure she had her reasons and she went through

548
00:24:46,624 --> 00:24:49,984
Speaker 1: the whole legal system. Probably, I'm not angry at Cardi B. Obviously,

549
00:24:49,984 --> 00:24:51,864
Speaker 1: because I never would, because that woman is wild. I'm

550
00:24:51,864 --> 00:24:55,704
Speaker 1: angry at the security guard's lawyer, the true villain of

551
00:24:55,744 --> 00:24:58,664
Speaker 1: this piece. So I had that person who let them

552
00:24:58,704 --> 00:25:00,824
Speaker 1: have a degree. Those are the questions I that man

553
00:25:00,904 --> 00:25:02,504
Speaker 1: was are to put on a show. He's like, I'm

554
00:25:02,544 --> 00:25:05,584
Speaker 1: in la I actually wanted to be an actor. I'm

555
00:25:05,584 --> 00:25:07,224
Speaker 1: making this up. But you know, you can just tell

556
00:25:07,264 --> 00:25:09,024
Speaker 1: someone wanted to be an actor and their fails. They've

557
00:25:09,024 --> 00:25:11,264
Speaker 1: gone into another profession, but their st really agree about it.

558
00:25:11,584 --> 00:25:14,384
Speaker 1: That's this lawyer. So he's there to put on a show,

559
00:25:14,824 --> 00:25:17,064
Speaker 1: and he decides that he's going to make Cardi B

560
00:25:17,304 --> 00:25:19,784
Speaker 1: look dumb. Yes, and that was his first error because

561
00:25:19,784 --> 00:25:21,944
Speaker 1: it was that was the wrong hill to die on.

562
00:25:22,064 --> 00:25:24,224
Speaker 1: Because Cardi B is coming in, she's pulling a look,

563
00:25:24,424 --> 00:25:26,824
Speaker 1: and she's wearing a different colored wig every day, which

564
00:25:26,824 --> 00:25:28,944
Speaker 1: she takes a lot of pride in yes, yesterday you

565
00:25:28,944 --> 00:25:32,144
Speaker 1: had black hair for hair, today's blonde and long?

566
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Speaker 3: Which one is your real hair?

567
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Speaker 1: So they bore through.

568
00:25:39,104 --> 00:25:40,784
Speaker 3: They're wigs.

569
00:25:40,304 --> 00:25:44,064
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry they didn't know that, you idiot.

570
00:25:44,224 --> 00:25:47,144
Speaker 2: The delivery of their wigs.

571
00:25:48,384 --> 00:25:52,584
Speaker 1: What and just the way she looks so just confused

572
00:25:52,664 --> 00:25:54,744
Speaker 1: on the stand, but she's obviously answering his questions. But

573
00:25:54,784 --> 00:25:57,464
Speaker 1: then he obviously moves on to He's like, okay, sorry,

574
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. It's a good week today.

575
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Speaker 2: Then is this a conversation we're having in court Jesus Christ.

576
00:26:02,384 --> 00:26:04,064
Speaker 1: But then he leads.

577
00:26:03,784 --> 00:26:06,424
Speaker 2: It in to oh, in your nails.

578
00:26:06,664 --> 00:26:09,944
Speaker 1: Oh they're interesting too, and like he's obviously trying to

579
00:26:09,984 --> 00:26:13,344
Speaker 1: set this picture of her and also bringing up the

580
00:26:13,424 --> 00:26:15,504
Speaker 1: nail so that he can then lead to the nails.

581
00:26:15,504 --> 00:26:17,584
Speaker 1: But obviously this has been called out online as being

582
00:26:17,664 --> 00:26:19,864
Speaker 1: quite an aggressive thing to say to a woman of

583
00:26:19,864 --> 00:26:22,024
Speaker 1: color about her hair and her nails, and there's a

584
00:26:22,064 --> 00:26:24,384
Speaker 1: reason he was doing it, But the way she just

585
00:26:24,744 --> 00:26:28,064
Speaker 1: responded to everything and wouldn't let it get to that point,

586
00:26:28,184 --> 00:26:31,304
Speaker 1: she's just her delivery whistment like just amazing exactly, I

587
00:26:31,304 --> 00:26:32,904
Speaker 1: mean kind of kept I mean, obviously I know that

588
00:26:32,944 --> 00:26:35,584
Speaker 1: he's it's his job to kind of cross examine her

589
00:26:35,624 --> 00:26:37,824
Speaker 1: and prove that she's lying or pull out at all

590
00:26:37,824 --> 00:26:41,264
Speaker 1: these like different things to just credit her. But his

591
00:26:41,344 --> 00:26:44,144
Speaker 1: line of questioning was just very very odd because he

592
00:26:44,304 --> 00:26:47,384
Speaker 1: kept and I'm not a lawyer, famously maybe while we

593
00:26:47,464 --> 00:26:49,344
Speaker 1: want to be a failed podcaster and I'll become a lawyer,

594
00:26:49,384 --> 00:26:52,184
Speaker 1: and I have the same anger as this man has

595
00:26:52,224 --> 00:26:54,944
Speaker 1: about his point in life. But he starts kind of

596
00:26:54,984 --> 00:26:57,104
Speaker 1: pushing on different things. Got he gets very kind of

597
00:26:57,144 --> 00:27:01,384
Speaker 1: tied into what she thinks an altercation is when I'm

598
00:27:01,384 --> 00:27:04,144
Speaker 1: talking to you now, are having a verbal altercation?

599
00:27:05,464 --> 00:27:11,384
Speaker 3: We have n't We'll see the wet When I got food,

600
00:27:11,464 --> 00:27:13,384
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I know, I know I didn't

601
00:27:13,424 --> 00:27:15,704
Speaker 3: touch your Like is that Look for the cameras, they'll

602
00:27:15,704 --> 00:27:17,024
Speaker 3: tell you I ain't touching.

603
00:27:17,424 --> 00:27:19,904
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, he's very much you can see trying to

604
00:27:19,944 --> 00:27:21,984
Speaker 1: like probe her into saying the wrong thing. And I

605
00:27:21,984 --> 00:27:23,504
Speaker 1: think what was really interesting is that no matter how

606
00:27:23,544 --> 00:27:26,264
Speaker 1: hard he tried, she just kept coming back really calmly

607
00:27:26,304 --> 00:27:28,424
Speaker 1: with these answers of like, are you fucking for real?

608
00:27:28,864 --> 00:27:30,744
Speaker 1: Was the vibe of the way she answered every question,

609
00:27:31,144 --> 00:27:34,344
Speaker 1: but very professionally, but like her face, her mannerism. She

610
00:27:34,384 --> 00:27:36,744
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, what what is this conversation we're

611
00:27:36,784 --> 00:27:39,424
Speaker 1: having in a court room? Yeah, so many odd moments,

612
00:27:39,424 --> 00:27:41,264
Speaker 1: like what about the moment where he's saying to her,

613
00:27:41,624 --> 00:27:43,544
Speaker 1: this is the lawyer saying to her. He's trying to

614
00:27:43,544 --> 00:27:45,424
Speaker 1: get her to repeat what she said to the security

615
00:27:45,424 --> 00:27:47,344
Speaker 1: guy at the time, And I loved that. One of

616
00:27:47,344 --> 00:27:49,824
Speaker 1: the reasons that she didn't want anyone to recognize her

617
00:27:49,944 --> 00:27:52,064
Speaker 1: is not just because she was keeping her pregnancy a

618
00:27:52,144 --> 00:27:55,464
Speaker 1: secret that day that she was also like this is

619
00:27:55,504 --> 00:27:57,624
Speaker 1: me if I go anywhere. She was like, I got

620
00:27:57,664 --> 00:27:59,504
Speaker 1: up really early, I didn't have my hair done, I

621
00:27:59,504 --> 00:28:01,824
Speaker 1: didn't have my makeup done. I can't have people recognize me.

622
00:28:01,864 --> 00:28:03,864
Speaker 1: I can't have people seeing me like that. And she

623
00:28:03,904 --> 00:28:05,584
Speaker 1: looks at this guy as if like you get me right,

624
00:28:05,624 --> 00:28:07,344
Speaker 1: you get that I couldn't be seen with no makeup,

625
00:28:07,344 --> 00:28:09,744
Speaker 1: And he was like just not picking up what she

626
00:28:09,784 --> 00:28:12,344
Speaker 1: was saying, and like there's the part where he kind

627
00:28:12,424 --> 00:28:15,784
Speaker 1: of goes to her, like you know, in in exchange,

628
00:28:15,984 --> 00:28:18,384
Speaker 1: she's asked like, did you think the security guard was

629
00:28:18,424 --> 00:28:22,064
Speaker 1: bigger than you? Yeah, and she goes absolutely, I mean look,

630
00:28:22,304 --> 00:28:24,184
Speaker 1: and then the Attorney's like I'm looking and she's like,

631
00:28:24,224 --> 00:28:28,744
Speaker 1: well there you go, like' and he pushes her. He's like,

632
00:28:28,784 --> 00:28:30,904
Speaker 1: so she's overweight. Did you call her fat? She's like, no,

633
00:28:31,024 --> 00:28:33,744
Speaker 1: I was calling her a bitch. Yeah, she really went

634
00:28:33,784 --> 00:28:35,864
Speaker 1: to town on that. Because again, he's the thing is

635
00:28:36,144 --> 00:28:38,704
Speaker 1: that is, that's a fair question to ask, because Cardi

636
00:28:38,744 --> 00:28:40,624
Speaker 1: B's whole thing is She's like, she kept saying, I

637
00:28:40,624 --> 00:28:42,264
Speaker 1: had a baby inside of me. I had a baby

638
00:28:42,304 --> 00:28:44,624
Speaker 1: inside of me. Yes, and girl, fair call. That sounds

639
00:28:44,704 --> 00:28:47,064
Speaker 1: very stressful. And then she's trying to say, like the

640
00:28:47,144 --> 00:28:50,024
Speaker 1: reason she was freaking out with a security guard coming

641
00:28:50,064 --> 00:28:51,984
Speaker 1: towards her, she kept saying she's bigger than me. She's

642
00:28:52,544 --> 00:28:55,224
Speaker 1: standing over and he basically the lawyer tries to her

643
00:28:55,264 --> 00:28:57,184
Speaker 1: words in her mouth. He's like, oh, so you're saying

644
00:28:57,184 --> 00:29:00,904
Speaker 1: she's fat, she's fat, and Cardi B's like, no, I

645
00:29:00,944 --> 00:29:02,784
Speaker 1: said she was And then and then he goes like, well,

646
00:29:02,824 --> 00:29:04,704
Speaker 1: how do you know she's bigger than you? And there's

647
00:29:04,704 --> 00:29:07,304
Speaker 1: this funny moment that you can't really see on a

648
00:29:07,344 --> 00:29:09,784
Speaker 1: podcast because you're listening to this. But after a while,

649
00:29:09,824 --> 00:29:12,344
Speaker 1: Cardi B and I how to answer the question. So

650
00:29:12,384 --> 00:29:15,264
Speaker 1: she just points really slowly to her own eyes yes,

651
00:29:15,344 --> 00:29:18,024
Speaker 1: and then points at the woman the security guard in

652
00:29:18,064 --> 00:29:19,744
Speaker 1: the crowd, who at this point I've got to assume

653
00:29:19,864 --> 00:29:23,344
Speaker 1: is rethinking the douation. And I'm like, ah, I took

654
00:29:23,384 --> 00:29:25,504
Speaker 1: things too far. I wish I hadn't done this. Yeah,

655
00:29:25,544 --> 00:29:27,824
Speaker 1: and then yeah, when she's like, I wasn't calling her fat,

656
00:29:27,904 --> 00:29:30,944
Speaker 1: I called her a bitch. Yeah, just to be clear,

657
00:29:31,224 --> 00:29:33,504
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, I did name call this woman.

658
00:29:33,584 --> 00:29:35,384
Speaker 2: But I think you know, these were obviously all being

659
00:29:35,424 --> 00:29:35,744
Speaker 2: set up.

660
00:29:35,784 --> 00:29:37,624
Speaker 1: As we know, any lawyer would to try to frame

661
00:29:37,664 --> 00:29:39,584
Speaker 1: her as like having had an attitude or having called

662
00:29:39,584 --> 00:29:41,784
Speaker 1: this woman names, which might show that then it escalated

663
00:29:41,824 --> 00:29:44,584
Speaker 1: to violence. But like even just when they were asking

664
00:29:44,744 --> 00:29:47,184
Speaker 1: how she knew she was being filmed, right, she says

665
00:29:47,184 --> 00:29:49,984
Speaker 1: that she went in, security guard recognizes her, starts following her,

666
00:29:49,984 --> 00:29:52,704
Speaker 1: starts filming her. She asked them to stop. It escalates

667
00:29:52,744 --> 00:29:55,104
Speaker 1: to an altercation. Yeah, He's like, how did you know

668
00:29:55,144 --> 00:29:58,024
Speaker 1: she was filming? And Cardi demonstrates like holding up her phone.

669
00:29:58,104 --> 00:30:00,344
Speaker 1: She's like, well, she was standing around the corner from

670
00:30:00,344 --> 00:30:02,024
Speaker 1: me like this, She'd had it at her ear and

671
00:30:02,064 --> 00:30:03,504
Speaker 1: then she was holding it in front of me the

672
00:30:03,504 --> 00:30:05,344
Speaker 1: way you hold a phone when you film, and he's like,

673
00:30:05,504 --> 00:30:08,064
Speaker 1: but you didn't know, and she's like, well, I did

674
00:30:08,184 --> 00:30:11,104
Speaker 1: you know when someone's filming on you. So they were

675
00:30:11,104 --> 00:30:14,704
Speaker 1: just quite ridiculous questions obviously, and the courtroom giggling. I

676
00:30:14,744 --> 00:30:17,024
Speaker 1: didn't know you could giggle in court. Yeah. For a

677
00:30:17,024 --> 00:30:18,584
Speaker 1: while there, I had to have to watch a few

678
00:30:18,584 --> 00:30:20,784
Speaker 1: different videos because I was like, as again, I was

679
00:30:20,824 --> 00:30:22,664
Speaker 1: watching these clips all the time because they were just

680
00:30:22,704 --> 00:30:24,544
Speaker 1: going crazy on the internet and people were loving it.

681
00:30:24,784 --> 00:30:28,184
Speaker 1: But I thought someone had added a laugh track over

682
00:30:28,224 --> 00:30:29,944
Speaker 1: the top in one of the TikTok edits that I

683
00:30:29,984 --> 00:30:31,904
Speaker 1: was watching. I thought someone had added a laugh track

684
00:30:32,504 --> 00:30:36,424
Speaker 1: of her talking about the incident, and then I realized,

685
00:30:36,584 --> 00:30:38,784
Speaker 1: is the courtroom laughing, which again I also didn't know

686
00:30:38,904 --> 00:30:40,824
Speaker 1: was alloud but also funny? Is funny. One of the

687
00:30:40,864 --> 00:30:43,824
Speaker 1: funniest moments I do think is when she's being questioned

688
00:30:43,904 --> 00:30:47,984
Speaker 1: about why her own bodyguard security wasn't with her, and

689
00:30:48,024 --> 00:30:49,624
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, I didn't want that man to know

690
00:30:49,664 --> 00:30:52,344
Speaker 1: I was pregnant. She's like she's like, she was like, well,

691
00:30:52,384 --> 00:30:54,744
Speaker 1: I was going to a doctor for like my lady paths,

692
00:30:54,824 --> 00:30:56,224
Speaker 1: like I didn't want him to know. I don't want

693
00:30:56,304 --> 00:30:57,744
Speaker 1: him in my business. I don't want him to know

694
00:30:57,784 --> 00:31:01,104
Speaker 1: I was going to have a janaductor. She and fair,

695
00:31:01,664 --> 00:31:04,104
Speaker 1: so fair, and she was like, I think she called

696
00:31:04,144 --> 00:31:06,664
Speaker 1: him like her male colleague or colleague.

697
00:31:06,944 --> 00:31:08,744
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't want that man in here with me.

698
00:31:08,904 --> 00:31:11,624
Speaker 2: Would Why would I? I'm like, fair point CARDI b Yeah.

699
00:31:11,664 --> 00:31:13,104
Speaker 1: She's like, I was getting my cat checked, and the

700
00:31:13,384 --> 00:31:15,864
Speaker 1: lawyer's like, what she was, I was getting my cat checked.

701
00:31:17,984 --> 00:31:21,744
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, her delivery is just her male colleague

702
00:31:21,784 --> 00:31:24,984
Speaker 1: who's her employee, but also calling him a colleagues very nice. Yes,

703
00:31:25,224 --> 00:31:27,864
Speaker 1: didn't want her him coming into obstetrician office with her,

704
00:31:27,944 --> 00:31:30,304
Speaker 1: And I say fair enough. So that I say fair enough,

705
00:31:30,304 --> 00:31:31,624
Speaker 1: I don't want any of you coming with me to

706
00:31:31,624 --> 00:31:33,584
Speaker 1: that appointment. To be honest, I don't want to come

707
00:31:33,624 --> 00:31:35,104
Speaker 1: just so you know you're on your own with that one.

708
00:31:35,144 --> 00:31:38,624
Speaker 1: We'll do those things separately. But I do think obviously

709
00:31:38,624 --> 00:31:40,824
Speaker 1: the like defining moment is when we have the third

710
00:31:40,824 --> 00:31:44,704
Speaker 1: party involved. Ye, the receptionist, Yes, yes, like so the

711
00:31:44,744 --> 00:31:47,064
Speaker 1: receptionist was also called to the stand. She also got

712
00:31:47,064 --> 00:31:50,784
Speaker 1: a lot of laughs. She must be flying high. He

713
00:31:50,864 --> 00:31:52,384
Speaker 1: needs to meet this whole thing into his name.

714
00:31:52,424 --> 00:31:57,704
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's currently who will play this man.

715
00:31:57,784 --> 00:32:01,064
Speaker 1: She plays herself. Oh my god, yes, she plays herself. Yes,

716
00:32:01,504 --> 00:32:04,744
Speaker 1: so the receptionist Tira obviously the only other person because

717
00:32:04,744 --> 00:32:07,264
Speaker 1: they've closed down the situation. Yeah, she got called to

718
00:32:07,264 --> 00:32:10,784
Speaker 1: the witness stand and she recounts, like her version hers

719
00:32:10,824 --> 00:32:14,464
Speaker 1: alignce with Carti's, which is that she saw the security

720
00:32:14,464 --> 00:32:16,904
Speaker 1: guard in front of Carti and then she saw that

721
00:32:16,944 --> 00:32:19,984
Speaker 1: there was like you know, yelling and escalation, and so

722
00:32:20,064 --> 00:32:22,224
Speaker 1: she rushed to get in between the two of them.

723
00:32:22,224 --> 00:32:24,024
Speaker 1: So she says that she was standing between the two

724
00:32:24,064 --> 00:32:26,024
Speaker 1: of them, she had her back to Cardi b and

725
00:32:26,064 --> 00:32:29,304
Speaker 1: she had her face towards the security guard being like

726
00:32:29,784 --> 00:32:32,144
Speaker 1: stop this, like let's not do this, and she says

727
00:32:32,384 --> 00:32:35,144
Speaker 1: they were both yelling. She gets asked, did she see

728
00:32:35,144 --> 00:32:37,544
Speaker 1: the security guard and Cardi hit each other? Did she

729
00:32:37,584 --> 00:32:40,544
Speaker 1: see Cardi scratch this woman? And there's just this really

730
00:32:40,584 --> 00:32:43,424
Speaker 1: funny line delivery where she was like there were I

731
00:32:43,424 --> 00:32:46,624
Speaker 1: think she says there were hands being thrown or punches

732
00:32:46,664 --> 00:32:50,264
Speaker 1: being thrown, but nothing landed, and everyone in the court

733
00:32:50,384 --> 00:32:52,384
Speaker 1: just like laughs because she's basically like no one could

734
00:32:52,384 --> 00:32:55,584
Speaker 1: punch for shit. That's just so funny. It kind of

735
00:32:55,624 --> 00:32:57,624
Speaker 1: makes me think of like big setup for a fight

736
00:32:57,704 --> 00:33:00,224
Speaker 1: like the end of Bridge Jones's Diary. Yeah, with Hugh

737
00:33:00,264 --> 00:33:03,864
Speaker 1: grand and Colin Firth. Yeah, with Hugo and Colin Firth,

738
00:33:03,864 --> 00:33:05,744
Speaker 1: where like it's also this big fight scene and then

739
00:33:05,784 --> 00:33:07,784
Speaker 1: neither of them can actually they're trying to kick each other,

740
00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:09,784
Speaker 1: trying to punch it. Neither it and can land and

741
00:33:09,944 --> 00:33:12,784
Speaker 1: like these this vibe. Except she's kind of clear that,

742
00:33:12,984 --> 00:33:15,584
Speaker 1: you know, in her opinion, Carti was just like back

743
00:33:15,624 --> 00:33:18,064
Speaker 1: away from me, Like it wasn't necessarily throwing hands, but

744
00:33:18,104 --> 00:33:20,824
Speaker 1: it was like talking with hands because you're mad. But

745
00:33:20,904 --> 00:33:24,064
Speaker 1: she does say that she did get she got scratched.

746
00:33:24,464 --> 00:33:26,784
Speaker 1: Oh that Cardi B got scratched. No, no, no, that

747
00:33:26,864 --> 00:33:29,304
Speaker 1: the receptionist got scratched.

748
00:33:29,704 --> 00:33:31,664
Speaker 2: What So she says that I.

749
00:33:31,584 --> 00:33:34,064
Speaker 1: Do not know she was in the mix of getting scratched. Yeah.

750
00:33:34,424 --> 00:33:36,464
Speaker 1: So she said she suffered a cut to her forehead

751
00:33:36,544 --> 00:33:39,344
Speaker 1: during the incident, and it was pointed out by one

752
00:33:39,384 --> 00:33:41,184
Speaker 1: of the doctors to her. She didn't even notice in

753
00:33:41,224 --> 00:33:43,224
Speaker 1: the moment because it was just a scratch. And then

754
00:33:43,224 --> 00:33:45,424
Speaker 1: when she's asked who was it, she says, well, Cardi

755
00:33:45,464 --> 00:33:48,944
Speaker 1: B was behind me, so she can't have scratched my face.

756
00:33:49,784 --> 00:33:54,424
Speaker 1: So she's essentially saying the security guard scratch her face face,

757
00:33:55,064 --> 00:33:57,624
Speaker 1: and like the moment when she says that she goes

758
00:33:58,664 --> 00:34:00,504
Speaker 1: but she was behind me and then it was a

759
00:34:00,504 --> 00:34:02,104
Speaker 1: doctor on nurse who noticed her. She said she was

760
00:34:02,104 --> 00:34:05,144
Speaker 1: flabbergasted with the allegations that don't seem congruent to what

761
00:34:05,184 --> 00:34:08,424
Speaker 1: she saw that day. You see Cardie's lawyer smile when

762
00:34:08,464 --> 00:34:11,584
Speaker 1: they talk about this other scratch because he's like cool

763
00:34:11,584 --> 00:34:14,144
Speaker 1: love one. Yeah, Oh the scratch that ended, the true

764
00:34:14,184 --> 00:34:17,024
Speaker 1: scratch that ended the trioic piece of evidence, the scratch

765
00:34:17,064 --> 00:34:19,504
Speaker 1: against the receptionist stage. Wow, this is a real true

766
00:34:19,544 --> 00:34:21,184
Speaker 1: crime situation that I didn't know.

767
00:34:21,344 --> 00:34:22,784
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need it, We need a podcast.

768
00:34:24,184 --> 00:34:25,064
Speaker 1: Bring in TCC.

769
00:34:25,504 --> 00:34:26,024
Speaker 2: TCC.

770
00:34:26,544 --> 00:34:29,024
Speaker 1: So, as they were escalating to the closing arguments on

771
00:34:29,064 --> 00:34:31,184
Speaker 1: the final day, you'd think that would be the most

772
00:34:31,224 --> 00:34:35,184
Speaker 1: heightened day for Cardi B because she's been in this trial.

773
00:34:35,264 --> 00:34:37,704
Speaker 1: She's been fighting this for years. I can't stress enough

774
00:34:37,704 --> 00:34:39,784
Speaker 1: how much the woman has had three children since this

775
00:34:39,864 --> 00:34:42,744
Speaker 1: has been so it's been so long she's been fighting this,

776
00:34:43,264 --> 00:34:44,704
Speaker 1: and her whole thing is like, I'm not giving this

777
00:34:44,744 --> 00:34:46,424
Speaker 1: woman the money. I didn't do it. I'm going to

778
00:34:46,504 --> 00:34:49,304
Speaker 1: stick to my guns. She's been coming into court every day,

779
00:34:49,344 --> 00:34:52,224
Speaker 1: pulling a look. She said she missed her child's first

780
00:34:52,264 --> 00:34:56,104
Speaker 1: and last days of school, which not great, huge yet huge.

781
00:34:56,144 --> 00:34:58,744
Speaker 1: And so you think when I was watching the footage

782
00:34:58,744 --> 00:35:02,304
Speaker 1: of them delivering closing arguments, that she would be like tense.

783
00:35:02,384 --> 00:35:04,504
Speaker 1: She'd be doing that thing like when we've seen like

784
00:35:04,704 --> 00:35:06,824
Speaker 1: Lindsay Lowan or Paris Hilton court back in the day.

785
00:35:06,864 --> 00:35:08,864
Speaker 1: They'd be like holding on to their lawyers and shaking

786
00:35:08,904 --> 00:35:10,944
Speaker 1: and crying. That's what I thought. And I was waiting

787
00:35:10,984 --> 00:35:12,344
Speaker 1: for the camera to go to her so I could

788
00:35:12,384 --> 00:35:16,664
Speaker 1: see this intense reaction closing arguments guilty not guilty. I

789
00:35:16,704 --> 00:35:18,784
Speaker 1: know that's not what we do with this courtcase, but

790
00:35:18,864 --> 00:35:21,224
Speaker 1: I'm just using those terms because that's the movie term. Yeah,

791
00:35:21,624 --> 00:35:24,864
Speaker 1: and camera goes to Cardi B. She's falling asleep. She's

792
00:35:24,904 --> 00:35:28,944
Speaker 1: had it. She can't do anymore. It's tired. She's so tired.

793
00:35:29,464 --> 00:35:31,384
Speaker 1: She's put on a show. She's had to explain to

794
00:35:31,424 --> 00:35:34,224
Speaker 1: this man what a wig is, what a wig is.

795
00:35:34,784 --> 00:35:37,064
Speaker 1: She said her forehead was hurting from the wig. Yeah,

796
00:35:37,144 --> 00:35:39,744
Speaker 1: my favorite part of the postpress. She's had to explain

797
00:35:39,824 --> 00:35:43,224
Speaker 1: all this stuff. That woman is exhausted. She's falling asleep

798
00:35:43,304 --> 00:35:46,624
Speaker 1: during closing arguments, and then she was found not liable

799
00:35:46,704 --> 00:35:48,984
Speaker 1: for all of it. And then she descends the court

800
00:35:49,024 --> 00:35:51,904
Speaker 1: room steps outside, and that's when we get another little treat,

801
00:35:51,984 --> 00:35:53,904
Speaker 1: and that's when we get more fun, because you know,

802
00:35:54,144 --> 00:35:56,784
Speaker 1: new Day, New Wig. She had her own lawyers laughing

803
00:35:56,824 --> 00:35:57,744
Speaker 1: in this inter Yeah.

804
00:35:57,824 --> 00:36:00,024
Speaker 3: Yeah, I swear to God, I will say it in

805
00:36:00,064 --> 00:36:03,104
Speaker 3: my dev be I did not touch that woman. I

806
00:36:03,144 --> 00:36:05,184
Speaker 3: know I got a little reputation, but I swear to God.

807
00:36:05,184 --> 00:36:08,864
Speaker 3: I'm mincing like like I'm really innocent for real. Let's

808
00:36:08,944 --> 00:36:13,664
Speaker 3: just put this behind. But I'm giving a warning. I

809
00:36:13,704 --> 00:36:16,024
Speaker 3: am not that's celeb that you're gonna sue and you

810
00:36:16,064 --> 00:36:18,664
Speaker 3: think it's gonna settle. I'm not gonna settle. The next

811
00:36:18,664 --> 00:36:21,784
Speaker 3: person to try to do a frivolous lawsuit against me,

812
00:36:22,224 --> 00:36:25,064
Speaker 3: I'm going to counter soon and I'm gonna make you pay.

813
00:36:25,224 --> 00:36:29,584
Speaker 3: It's been late nights and early five thirty in the morning.

814
00:36:29,624 --> 00:36:29,904
Speaker 1: Morning.

815
00:36:30,144 --> 00:36:31,544
Speaker 3: You gotta get up five thirty so I can look

816
00:36:31,584 --> 00:36:32,224
Speaker 3: like this with y'all.

817
00:36:32,864 --> 00:36:33,744
Speaker 2: Can I say?

818
00:36:34,384 --> 00:36:34,584
Speaker 1: Then?

819
00:36:34,624 --> 00:36:38,824
Speaker 3: My forehead is raw from changing all these weeks. Raw,

820
00:36:39,704 --> 00:36:40,504
Speaker 3: raw raw raw.

821
00:36:40,624 --> 00:36:42,144
Speaker 1: I love that bit where she talks about the fact

822
00:36:42,144 --> 00:36:44,384
Speaker 1: that she doesn't lie in Beddle day and that's the lion.

823
00:36:44,464 --> 00:36:46,864
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't lie in Bettle day, therefore I'm

824
00:36:46,904 --> 00:36:48,664
Speaker 1: not paying out money to people who sue me. And

825
00:36:48,704 --> 00:36:50,184
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that's fair enough.

826
00:36:50,224 --> 00:36:51,624
Speaker 2: Famously hard work at Cardi B.

827
00:36:51,824 --> 00:36:53,944
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah no, and she's saying it there. It

828
00:36:53,944 --> 00:36:56,624
Speaker 1: also reminded me of like when Grenneth Paltrow sued the

829
00:36:56,664 --> 00:37:00,264
Speaker 1: man who were like the skiing Yeah, the skiing incident.

830
00:37:00,424 --> 00:37:02,224
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the best celebrity trial we've had in

831
00:37:02,224 --> 00:37:04,104
Speaker 1: a while. But her her thing was the same. She

832
00:37:04,184 --> 00:37:06,424
Speaker 1: was like, I have the money to give to this man, yeah,

833
00:37:06,424 --> 00:37:08,584
Speaker 1: but he's lying. Yeah, and so I will walk into

834
00:37:08,624 --> 00:37:11,144
Speaker 1: this courtroom every day, also pulling a very different to

835
00:37:11,144 --> 00:37:13,864
Speaker 1: Cardi B. I walk into this courtroom every day and

836
00:37:14,224 --> 00:37:16,344
Speaker 1: just to defend the fact that this man is trying

837
00:37:16,384 --> 00:37:19,224
Speaker 1: to steal from me. Essentially, so she could have had

838
00:37:19,224 --> 00:37:21,464
Speaker 1: this and she did. Cardi B had this beautiful moment

839
00:37:21,504 --> 00:37:24,904
Speaker 1: where she walked out of the courtroom looking again like

840
00:37:24,984 --> 00:37:27,224
Speaker 1: Leelee Brown, like Elle Woods. She's got the suit on,

841
00:37:27,424 --> 00:37:29,744
Speaker 1: she's got a beautiful wig on, and at the same

842
00:37:29,784 --> 00:37:32,144
Speaker 1: time she kind of finishes on a very dramatic note

843
00:37:32,144 --> 00:37:34,184
Speaker 1: because I know if you saw this clip just before

844
00:37:34,224 --> 00:37:35,944
Speaker 1: the press conference, she was going on the line of

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00:37:35,984 --> 00:37:38,144
Speaker 1: because his fans like, because his court case has been

846
00:37:38,144 --> 00:37:40,824
Speaker 1: so famous, everyone's been watching the clips, so fans have

847
00:37:40,904 --> 00:37:44,504
Speaker 1: started lining the streets around the courtroom to meet Cardi

848
00:37:44,584 --> 00:37:45,624
Speaker 1: B on the way out. Why not?

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00:37:45,904 --> 00:37:46,264
Speaker 2: Why not?

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00:37:46,424 --> 00:37:48,384
Speaker 1: She's there, she looks great, she's photo ready.

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00:37:48,424 --> 00:37:48,984
Speaker 2: You got the time.

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00:37:49,024 --> 00:37:50,384
Speaker 1: And that was her whole thing. She didn't want to

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00:37:50,384 --> 00:37:53,264
Speaker 1: be photographed without her hair and makeup done. So this

854
00:37:53,344 --> 00:37:55,304
Speaker 1: is the time to grab her because she's ready to

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00:37:55,384 --> 00:37:57,624
Speaker 1: use victorious. So and she was being nice to fans.

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00:37:57,704 --> 00:37:59,704
Speaker 1: She was going on the line, she was taking photos

857
00:37:59,744 --> 00:38:02,264
Speaker 1: of fans, she was signing autographs. She's having a great time.

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00:38:02,544 --> 00:38:05,024
Speaker 1: And then this journalist comes over and starts asking her

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00:38:05,104 --> 00:38:08,104
Speaker 1: if it's true that she's pregnant with her fourth child. Yeah,

860
00:38:08,344 --> 00:38:11,784
Speaker 1: with another guy that she's dating. She offset have broken up,

861
00:38:12,184 --> 00:38:14,784
Speaker 1: and she just gets as we know, she was tired,

862
00:38:14,824 --> 00:38:17,384
Speaker 1: she was falling asleep minutes ago. She's tired, she's angry.

863
00:38:17,544 --> 00:38:19,384
Speaker 1: She gets so angry she stays yelling at him, and

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00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:21,224
Speaker 1: then she takes the marker off a fan that a

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00:38:21,224 --> 00:38:23,024
Speaker 1: fan had given her, saying like, can you please sign

866
00:38:23,024 --> 00:38:26,424
Speaker 1: this to me and throws it directly at the me.

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00:38:26,744 --> 00:38:32,024
Speaker 1: Not now like you just got to quit it of assault, gunny,

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00:38:33,344 --> 00:38:36,304
Speaker 1: and then you're throwing a marker at a man on camera. Yeah,

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00:38:36,304 --> 00:38:38,024
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's going to lead to anything, but

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Speaker 1: it was an interesting choice.

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00:38:39,504 --> 00:38:40,584
Speaker 2: No, it was an interesting choice.

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00:38:40,624 --> 00:38:41,944
Speaker 1: And like I also, like I do want to say,

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00:38:41,944 --> 00:38:44,584
Speaker 1: because people were analyzing obviously they've been analyzing this whole thing,

874
00:38:44,664 --> 00:38:47,384
Speaker 1: and they were analyzing how she wore her outfits and

875
00:38:47,424 --> 00:38:50,064
Speaker 1: like saying she was walking like a pregnant woman might walk,

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00:38:50,144 --> 00:38:51,784
Speaker 1: like she was doing that little wattle a little bit.

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00:38:51,824 --> 00:38:53,344
Speaker 2: Some people said, I'm like, sure it was in heels,

878
00:38:53,344 --> 00:38:53,864
Speaker 2: so who knows.

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00:38:53,984 --> 00:38:56,584
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, her coming out of that courtroom in the

880
00:38:56,584 --> 00:38:58,544
Speaker 1: heels as me trying to walk in heels down a

881
00:38:58,624 --> 00:39:02,304
Speaker 1: flight of stairs. It's tough, terrifying, she's wobbling. I do too,

882
00:39:02,464 --> 00:39:04,464
Speaker 1: we all do. I can't even wear heels. But she

883
00:39:04,704 --> 00:39:07,144
Speaker 1: was being questioned about that on the internet, and then

884
00:39:07,344 --> 00:39:09,984
Speaker 1: it's not the moment to ask. It's maybe also not

885
00:39:10,024 --> 00:39:12,544
Speaker 1: the moment to throw a pen. No, I know, look

886
00:39:12,544 --> 00:39:14,104
Speaker 1: that that journalist to ask her, and I don't think

887
00:39:14,104 --> 00:39:15,584
Speaker 1: it was a jealous was like a Paparazia. It was

888
00:39:15,584 --> 00:39:18,824
Speaker 1: a different thing. Yeah, that person's trash, but also an

889
00:39:18,904 --> 00:39:22,224
Speaker 1: interesting choice to come out of being acquitted from assault

890
00:39:22,304 --> 00:39:25,544
Speaker 1: and then see that she's I'm learning this line and

891
00:39:25,584 --> 00:39:28,584
Speaker 1: I'm like, Candie, they could not be more cameras on her, Yeah,

892
00:39:28,744 --> 00:39:31,304
Speaker 1: because everyone's waiting for her statement after the court case.

893
00:39:31,584 --> 00:39:34,584
Speaker 1: And then she was like, you're so disrespectful whack And

894
00:39:34,624 --> 00:39:37,744
Speaker 1: I was like, soir she what did we just say? Yeah, So,

895
00:39:38,224 --> 00:39:39,904
Speaker 1: as far as I know, nothing's come from her. I

896
00:39:39,944 --> 00:39:41,864
Speaker 1: don't even know if the market hit it like the thing,

897
00:39:42,664 --> 00:39:45,184
Speaker 1: it's fine, But I'm just saying, what a time, What

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00:39:45,504 --> 00:39:47,144
Speaker 1: a time to be Cardi B? What a time do

899
00:39:47,144 --> 00:39:50,064
Speaker 1: you want of Cardi B's wigs? Yes, just beautiful time

900
00:39:50,664 --> 00:39:54,384
Speaker 1: her now technician. Everyone's a winner, except that everyone's a winner,

901
00:39:54,384 --> 00:39:56,744
Speaker 1: accept the security garden. Also, whoever she threw a pen

902
00:39:56,824 --> 00:39:59,464
Speaker 1: at and whoever lost a pen? Yeah, and it's hard

903
00:39:59,504 --> 00:40:00,984
Speaker 1: to find. They are so hard to find. It could

904
00:40:01,024 --> 00:40:04,264
Speaker 1: be their favorite pen. Well, I'm sad it's over, but

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00:40:04,304 --> 00:40:06,344
Speaker 1: I'm glad it happened. I'm glad it happened, and now

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00:40:06,344 --> 00:40:09,264
Speaker 1: I need to go watch this video. Well, thank you

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00:40:09,384 --> 00:40:11,704
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00:40:11,744 --> 00:40:14,984
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