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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded.

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Speaker 1: On Makeup is my therapy in love.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel jailty about it.

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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 3: your Face.

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Speaker 1: I'm Aaron Dockerty and I'm.

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Speaker 2: M Burnam and you are listening to Tried and Tested,

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Speaker 2: the show where we put new products, treatments and hacks

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Speaker 2: to the test so you don't have to unless they're

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Speaker 2: really good.

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Speaker 1: We don't want you wasting money.

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Speaker 2: We don't want you wasting money. I feel like we've

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Speaker 2: got a fun, budgety one today.

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Speaker 3: We've also gotten not fun, non budgety one from me.

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Speaker 3: Not fun, definitely not budgety because I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: talking about a seven D.

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Speaker 1: Haircut that I got.

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Speaker 3: It's Australia's most expensive haircut, so it's definitely not savy

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Speaker 3: and it didn't go as you'd expect.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to tell you what have you got?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you look great.

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Speaker 2: I have found a new product that's not really new.

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Speaker 2: It feels like something that everyone's been using for a

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Speaker 2: really long time. But it started to trend again, and

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Speaker 2: I've been using it all over my body everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Think of every part of my body.

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Speaker 1: It's covered in it. That sounds like a good multitask.

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Speaker 4: It's been to do a lot of great things. We'll

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Speaker 4: find out, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear about that, testing testing one

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Speaker 3: to three.

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Speaker 1: Did it work? Okay?

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Speaker 2: So if you're watching on our YouTube channel, which please

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Speaker 2: do because I feel like this is going to be

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Speaker 2: a good one, you can watch along with us.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a bit of background first,

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Speaker 3: m because I haven't actually had my haircut properly since

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Speaker 3: post wedding, like two years ago.

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Speaker 4: That's a long time.

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Speaker 1: It's a very long time.

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Speaker 4: You went the bop.

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Speaker 3: That was right after my wedding. I was like, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to cut it all off. It's been nearly two

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Speaker 3: years since that. I do this thing where I get

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Speaker 3: and grow it out, then I do it again.

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Speaker 1: So I've been doing that repeatedly for years.

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Speaker 2: Because like since we've known each other, which has been

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Speaker 2: what like five years. Yeah, we've always sat opposite each

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Speaker 2: other everywhere, like every part of the office we've moved

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Speaker 1: S either one or the other. You always see me

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Speaker 1: going through.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, your hair journey has been a lot.

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Speaker 1: Do you think.

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Speaker 3: Sure looks better though, but it always happens like that,

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Speaker 3: And I feel like that's why my hair can get

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Speaker 3: Like I don't get like regular trims or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I just want to like grow it

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Speaker 4: That's your hair grow fast.

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Speaker 3: It grows pretty fast, so it's good, but it's still

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Speaker 3: not probably great for the health of my hair, especially

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Speaker 3: So after nearly two years of not getting it cut,

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Speaker 3: No, I was offered a haircut at Headcase Hair in Sydney.

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Speaker 3: And it's with hairstylist John Pulitano. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: hairstylist in Sydney. He has two salons, so this was

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Speaker 3: could probably tell I was desperate, babe, get in here.

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Speaker 3: Of course, as I said, seven hundred and fifty dollars,

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Speaker 3: it's for a specific service. It's called the texture Edit.

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Speaker 3: So in this it's all about like layering. The way

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Speaker 3: like specific layering technique, which is different to other Well,

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Speaker 3: he said, he doesn't like to cut it like the

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Speaker 1: Of cutting hair.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a hairstylist, so if you are listening to

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Speaker 3: this in new hairstylist, I'm sorry. Anyway, his way is

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Speaker 1: So it's like a unique it's a unique technique.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, after the break, I'm going to tell you everything

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Speaker 3: that went down when I went in for this seven

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Speaker 1: Okay, here is me before.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, your hair was so long.

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Speaker 1: I'd looked like paddle popline.

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Speaker 4: Your hair is beautiful erin you?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, So here's me. He didn't do the

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Speaker 3: what are we doing today? Okay, he asked me about

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Speaker 3: my scalp health. He did like this whole hair consultation.

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Speaker 3: He asked me what I liked, what I didn't like,

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Speaker 3: and then I did the I'm just going to get

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Speaker 3: a bob and then he said no.

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Speaker 3: He said no, and I was like, I can go

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Speaker 1: And he's like, no, that's and he's like, no, just

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Speaker 3: And it was the first time a hairstylist had actually

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Speaker 1: So usually they say.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, Aaron controversial opinion. I think they

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Speaker 2: should say no to you more often.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: Well, his reasoning actually made sense to me though. He said,

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Speaker 3: if I do the lob, it comes in this awkward,

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Speaker 3: quite wide. And he didn't kind of say it, but

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Speaker 3: is making my hair look wide, it's making everything look wide.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to look wider right now. That's not

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Speaker 3: And with the bob, he said, if he cut it shorter,

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Speaker 4: You do know you can get other things besides bobs, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Know, bobs and lobs, But that's my go too. That's

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Speaker 3: what I've always done. I wasn't gonna ask for like

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Speaker 3: To me, that's the only thing. I'm like, either long

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Speaker 4: Brush because you have naturally really curly hair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was saying, I usually blow dry the

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Speaker 3: curls out and he's like, well, why are we getting bobs? Then?

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Speaker 1: Like no, anyway, it was kind of hair.

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Speaker 3: This didn't go as I expected, but it was good

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Speaker 3: to do is just a blow dry brush and put

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Speaker 3: I'll have like a little bit of waves.

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Speaker 4: So he's really cutting your hair for like your future lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: Future lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: I think the thing that got me was someone came

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Speaker 1: So when I sat down, I was like, yeah, go

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Speaker 4: I would have been like flea bag, which's like I

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Speaker 1: It's intelligible. Yeah, it's French. It would have been me.

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Speaker 1: That would have been me.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, he said, it would be like a kind

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Speaker 3: go home and then I'd hate it all over again.

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Speaker 1: So he's like, I'm gonna cut your hair.

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Speaker 3: But it was good because I think I kind of

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Speaker 3: this and maybe done the same thing again. So he

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Speaker 3: thing he actually said to me was about the health

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Speaker 1: But I tell you why.

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Speaker 3: I've been using oliplex like NonStop, oh, and that's giving

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Speaker 1: Why are you using it? And I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, because it's great. He said that basically, if.

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Speaker 3: I'm not coloring my hair, I don't need to be

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Speaker 3: giving it that much protein consistently because it's actually making

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Speaker 3: need to just be using like normal Champion conditioner and

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Speaker 3: do like hydrating masks. If you color your hair, then yes,

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Speaker 3: like few months, oh, but he was like, that will

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Speaker 3: also help you love the new shape of your hair anyway,

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Speaker 3: cost of it seven hundred and fifty dollars, maintenance cuts

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Speaker 3: three hundred and ninety dollars. Is it necessary? No, it's

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Speaker 4: Now you've done it, but you have to get the

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Speaker 4: maintenance cut.

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Speaker 1: I've done it.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if I could spend three hundred

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Speaker 3: and ninety dollars for a maintenance cut now.

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Speaker 4: So if you go to a new hairdresser, are they

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Speaker 4: going to be like, holy shit, how do I do this?

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Speaker 3: They're going to be like, what kind of edit is this?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be like, it's a deck shir edit.

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Speaker 3: I think for someone breaking out of a two year

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Speaker 3: hair rut, it was like really good for me because

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Speaker 3: it made me not chop it right off and regret it.

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Speaker 4: How many people noticed your new hair?

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Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say. I walked into

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Speaker 3: the office the day I got my haircut. I felt

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Speaker 3: so bad. Someone got a bob and you got a

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Speaker 3: new color, and I was like, I got my hair

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Speaker 3: cut and everyone was like, I'm sorry, what you're getting

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Speaker 3: it cut?

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Speaker 1: No, it's being cut and.

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Speaker 1: I've seen that bottle. So it's called Nature's Shield.

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Speaker 2: Okay, safe, pure, powerful, organic cast to oil, premium cold

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Speaker 4: I'll just stick to my normal skin care fail for hail.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this tried and

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Speaker 3: I want to hear what the Ubis have to say

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Speaker 3: They'd get a scalp treatment, So maybe that was kind

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Speaker 1: Anyway, we did it.

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Speaker 3: We we're just bringing the information to you guys that

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Speaker 4: No, you don't have to do that.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to do that.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to do it.

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Speaker 1: But thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 2: Beauty is produced by Cassie Merritt, with audio production by

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Speaker 2: tig and Sadler and video production by Marlena Cacciotti.

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Speaker 1: And we will see you next time. Bye bye,