1 00:00:14,844 --> 00:00:17,883 Speaker 1: From Mamma Mia, welcome to the spill, your daily pop 2 00:00:17,883 --> 00:00:21,404 Speaker 1: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney, and I'm Ksenya Lukic. And 3 00:00:21,404 --> 00:00:24,564 Speaker 1: coming up on the show today, Sean Combs has received 4 00:00:24,564 --> 00:00:27,964 Speaker 1: his prison sentence. Some of his victims have come forward 5 00:00:27,964 --> 00:00:32,124 Speaker 1: with very passionate and very upsetting impact statements. We're gonna 6 00:00:32,124 --> 00:00:34,803 Speaker 1: unpack all of that because we have been following this 7 00:00:34,803 --> 00:00:36,594 Speaker 1: case since the moment it started. 8 00:00:37,056 --> 00:00:40,576 Speaker 1: Plus, the Kardashians have released a trailer for the new 9 00:00:40,576 --> 00:00:43,816 Speaker 1: season of their reality show. It's packed with drama, people 10 00:00:43,816 --> 00:00:47,217 Speaker 1: have very divisive thoughts about it. And they've also pulled 11 00:00:47,217 --> 00:00:49,377 Speaker 1: a page out of their old game book that they've 12 00:00:49,377 --> 00:00:53,616 Speaker 1: been lying low before they've unleashed all these dramas upon 13 00:00:53,616 --> 00:00:56,417 Speaker 1: the world. So we're getting into that. But first, something 14 00:00:56,417 --> 00:00:57,167 Speaker 1: a bit lighter. 15 00:00:57,256 --> 00:00:57,546 Speaker 2: But 16 00:00:57,546 --> 00:00:58,987 Speaker 2: first, Paris Fashion. 17 00:00:59,710 --> 00:01:04,230 Speaker 2: It has been a celebrity hotspot this year, and, you know, 18 00:01:04,350 --> 00:01:06,789 Speaker 2: every year at Fashion Weeks, we get all of our 19 00:01:06,789 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: celebs front row, but there's something about this Paris Fashion 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,419 Speaker 2: Week that seems like there's a lot of big A-listers. Now, 21 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:16,660 Speaker 2: the one that I want to flag, first of all, 22 00:01:16,749 --> 00:01:21,349 Speaker 2: is obviously our recently divorced Nicole Kidman. 23 00:01:21,973 --> 00:01:25,134 Speaker 2: Now, she was seen at the Chanel show with her 24 00:01:25,134 --> 00:01:28,254 Speaker 2: daughter Sunday and Faith. She's just been announced as the 25 00:01:28,254 --> 00:01:31,814 Speaker 2: new ambassador for Chanel, and she shows up looking gorgeous 26 00:01:31,814 --> 00:01:36,053 Speaker 2: in this big oversized white shirt, big baggy jeans. It 27 00:01:36,053 --> 00:01:38,814 Speaker 2: was very sort of chic, and breakup bangs. 28 00:01:39,204 --> 00:01:41,733 Speaker 1: Yes, there was a lot of attention on the breakup bangs. 29 00:01:41,873 --> 00:01:43,473 Speaker 1: A lot of people were saying it was her first, like, 30 00:01:43,553 --> 00:01:47,193 Speaker 1: big public appearance since she officially filed for divorce from 31 00:01:47,193 --> 00:01:49,473 Speaker 1: Keith Urban, but she did go to a charity event 32 00:01:49,793 --> 00:01:52,594 Speaker 1: the other day with the creator of Lioness, the TV 33 00:01:52,594 --> 00:01:55,004 Speaker 1: show that's now gone to its 2nd season. But obviously, 34 00:01:55,013 --> 00:01:57,074 Speaker 1: that was not a huge public event, like going to 35 00:01:57,074 --> 00:02:00,473 Speaker 1: Fashion Week. So she walked into the Chanel show with 36 00:02:00,473 --> 00:02:02,943 Speaker 1: her daughters, Faith Margaret and Sunday Rose. 37 00:02:03,310 --> 00:02:05,899 Speaker 1: And was all smiles in front of the cameras, and again, 38 00:02:06,099 --> 00:02:08,660 Speaker 1: had the breakup bangs, which I, I guess that's definitely 39 00:02:08,660 --> 00:02:10,340 Speaker 1: what they are. That is the whole thing that after 40 00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:12,779 Speaker 1: a breakup, especially is not as huge as that, you 41 00:02:12,779 --> 00:02:15,459 Speaker 1: often do feel the urge to do something big to 42 00:02:15,459 --> 00:02:16,429 Speaker 1: shake up your appearance. 43 00:02:16,620 --> 00:02:17,340 Speaker 2: I do feel like 44 00:02:17,340 --> 00:02:21,220 Speaker 2: though for celebrities, it doesn't feel as mind blowing because 45 00:02:21,220 --> 00:02:23,539 Speaker 2: they change up their looks so frequently. 46 00:02:23,590 --> 00:02:26,260 Speaker 1: I, I feel like if it was like someone who 47 00:02:26,260 --> 00:02:27,269 Speaker 1: had the same hairsty. 48 00:02:27,605 --> 00:02:30,685 Speaker 1: for decades. Like if Jenn Aniston suddenly had like a 49 00:02:30,685 --> 00:02:32,646 Speaker 1: red bob or something like that, because she's had the 50 00:02:32,646 --> 00:02:34,866 Speaker 1: same hair for 30 years, I would be like, Well, 51 00:02:34,965 --> 00:02:38,086 Speaker 1: that's a breakup haircut. But because Nicole Kidman, she's never 52 00:02:38,086 --> 00:02:39,765 Speaker 1: come out and said it, but she does wear wigs 53 00:02:39,765 --> 00:02:41,566 Speaker 1: a lot, which a lot of famous women do. She 54 00:02:41,566 --> 00:02:44,166 Speaker 1: can't put your hair through the wringer of like, that 55 00:02:44,166 --> 00:02:47,676 Speaker 1: much heat styling, and also she's always got wildly different lengths. 56 00:02:47,965 --> 00:02:49,735 Speaker 1: So for all we knew, they were clip on bangs. 57 00:02:49,935 --> 00:02:51,325 Speaker 1: Chanel clip on bangs, I'm sure. 58 00:02:51,521 --> 00:02:53,752 Speaker 2: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, she's been blonde, 59 00:02:53,871 --> 00:02:56,672 Speaker 2: she's got that strawberry blonde that she always does. I 60 00:02:56,672 --> 00:02:58,672 Speaker 2: feel like Jen Ashton did have a red bob in 61 00:02:58,672 --> 00:03:02,032 Speaker 2: Horrible Bosses. Yeah, but was that a red bob or 62 00:03:02,032 --> 00:03:03,431 Speaker 2: am I imagining things? I feel 63 00:03:03,431 --> 00:03:03,752 Speaker 2: like 64 00:03:03,752 --> 00:03:05,271 Speaker 1: maybe in one of the later movies, but in the 65 00:03:05,271 --> 00:03:06,911 Speaker 1: first one, I think she had her normal hair. That's 66 00:03:06,911 --> 00:03:09,312 Speaker 1: the thing about Jenton not to make Nicole Kidman's break 67 00:03:09,312 --> 00:03:11,952 Speaker 1: up about her is that she's always just Jed Aniston 68 00:03:11,952 --> 00:03:13,952 Speaker 1: and everything. She always has a nude lip and a 69 00:03:13,952 --> 00:03:15,582 Speaker 1: soft contoured cheek and a long 70 00:03:16,217 --> 00:03:17,668 Speaker 1: bronde, sleek. 71 00:03:18,088 --> 00:03:18,648 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just 72 00:03:18,648 --> 00:03:20,737 Speaker 2: had, I had this flash of like a weird bob 73 00:03:20,737 --> 00:03:22,457 Speaker 2: in Horrible Boss, but maybe I'm imagining it. 74 00:03:22,648 --> 00:03:24,207 Speaker 1: I can't remember a lot about that movie. 75 00:03:24,457 --> 00:03:27,297 Speaker 2: So she's a model now, as we know. So last year, 76 00:03:27,377 --> 00:03:31,297 Speaker 2: she did a debut at Mumu, and then this year 77 00:03:31,297 --> 00:03:35,737 Speaker 2: she actually walked in Dior, looking gorgeous. That's why she 78 00:03:35,737 --> 00:03:38,217 Speaker 2: was there with her mom, obviously, as, you know, her 79 00:03:38,217 --> 00:03:39,618 Speaker 2: mom was the ambassador for Chanel. 80 00:03:39,924 --> 00:03:42,224 Speaker 2: And her sister was there. But it seems like a 81 00:03:42,224 --> 00:03:44,664 Speaker 2: lot of the attention is around the fact that her 82 00:03:44,664 --> 00:03:46,664 Speaker 2: parents are divorcing. So it must be kind of a 83 00:03:46,664 --> 00:03:47,853 Speaker 2: weird thing for her to be 84 00:03:48,793 --> 00:03:48,823 Speaker 2: doing. 85 00:03:49,023 --> 00:03:50,743 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the thing when people say like, oh, 86 00:03:50,823 --> 00:03:53,103 Speaker 1: they deliberately announced they were divorce at this time. I mean, 87 00:03:53,183 --> 00:03:55,054 Speaker 1: we have no information on that, but I do feel 88 00:03:55,054 --> 00:03:57,023 Speaker 1: like that's what also makes me feel like that was 89 00:03:57,023 --> 00:03:59,304 Speaker 1: a bit of a leak, because I don't think any 90 00:03:59,304 --> 00:04:01,894 Speaker 1: parents would deliberately put that information out to the world 91 00:04:01,894 --> 00:04:04,263 Speaker 1: and leak it to try and get headlines when their 92 00:04:04,263 --> 00:04:06,263 Speaker 1: daughter's about to have this huge career moment. I think 93 00:04:06,263 --> 00:04:08,853 Speaker 1: it's just the fallout of what happens when you're that famous. 94 00:04:09,164 --> 00:04:10,754 Speaker 1: But yes, a lot of people were very excited to 95 00:04:10,754 --> 00:04:13,194 Speaker 1: see Nicole. She's definitely got like a very loyal fan 96 00:04:13,194 --> 00:04:16,064 Speaker 1: base going into this breakup. Like everyone is Team Nicole. 97 00:04:16,474 --> 00:04:18,394 Speaker 1: Someone else who a lot of people were talking about 98 00:04:18,394 --> 00:04:20,513 Speaker 1: was Meghan Markle. Did you see her there? It's the 99 00:04:20,513 --> 00:04:22,873 Speaker 1: first time she's been to Europe in 3 years, and 100 00:04:22,873 --> 00:04:24,954 Speaker 1: the first time she's been to Paris Fashion Week. So 101 00:04:24,954 --> 00:04:25,233 Speaker 2: she was 102 00:04:25,233 --> 00:04:27,873 Speaker 2: there for the Balenciaga show. I was actually quite surprised 103 00:04:27,873 --> 00:04:29,833 Speaker 2: to see her. And when I was looking at the images, 104 00:04:29,914 --> 00:04:33,113 Speaker 2: I was like, These feel like they were taken 5 105 00:04:33,113 --> 00:04:35,784 Speaker 2: years ago, like, because she's not out very often anymore. 106 00:04:36,034 --> 00:04:38,314 Speaker 2: It didn't register that these were recent images. 107 00:04:38,414 --> 00:04:41,004 Speaker 2: I don't know why. Because I feel like because Will's 108 00:04:41,004 --> 00:04:43,634 Speaker 2: has been in the media so much with that Eugene 109 00:04:43,634 --> 00:04:47,083 Speaker 2: Levy doco that he's been doing, and there's been so 110 00:04:47,083 --> 00:04:50,683 Speaker 2: much press around that. And I feel like Megan's kind 111 00:04:50,683 --> 00:04:52,923 Speaker 2: of taken a little bit of a step back, as 112 00:04:52,923 --> 00:04:55,474 Speaker 2: Megan maybe can, just a tiny little bit. 113 00:04:55,594 --> 00:04:57,094 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess she did like a bit of a 114 00:04:57,094 --> 00:04:59,803 Speaker 1: press blitz for her TV show, and even though it 115 00:04:59,803 --> 00:05:01,764 Speaker 1: doesn't been like that long ago, she has been laying 116 00:05:01,764 --> 00:05:04,673 Speaker 1: low since then. But yes, she went to the Balenciaga show. 117 00:05:04,803 --> 00:05:07,564 Speaker 1: There was a lot of videos of her greeting Anna Wintour. 118 00:05:07,873 --> 00:05:10,164 Speaker 1: And Anna Wintour saying that she looked beautiful. And a 119 00:05:10,164 --> 00:05:12,734 Speaker 1: lot of people thought that was interesting because there's always 120 00:05:12,734 --> 00:05:14,414 Speaker 1: been this rumor that there's a bit of a feud 121 00:05:14,414 --> 00:05:16,963 Speaker 1: between them from when Meghan Markle was on the cover 122 00:05:16,963 --> 00:05:20,354 Speaker 1: of Vogue in 2022. And the whole story then was like, 123 00:05:20,653 --> 00:05:22,773 Speaker 1: she made so many demands, you know, the classic Meghan 124 00:05:22,773 --> 00:05:24,734 Speaker 1: Markle story. She made so many demands, she did this, 125 00:05:24,773 --> 00:05:27,053 Speaker 1: she did this. Anna Wintour has now chosen a side 126 00:05:27,053 --> 00:05:30,083 Speaker 1: against her, and we haven't really seen them interact since then, 127 00:05:30,213 --> 00:05:32,613 Speaker 1: which is fair enough because they don't run in exactly 128 00:05:32,613 --> 00:05:34,974 Speaker 1: the same circles. And Megan famously has had quite a 129 00:05:34,974 --> 00:05:36,863 Speaker 1: bit on the last few years, but they 130 00:05:36,944 --> 00:05:40,053 Speaker 1: Embrace very warmly. So, Anna Winto, a lot of people think, 131 00:05:40,224 --> 00:05:43,264 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that unless she was bestowing favor on her 132 00:05:43,264 --> 00:05:45,824 Speaker 1: because she doesn't go about warmly hugging that many 133 00:05:45,824 --> 00:05:46,213 Speaker 1: people. 134 00:05:46,303 --> 00:05:49,453 Speaker 2: It's interesting to see her at like an actual fashion event, 135 00:05:49,463 --> 00:05:51,903 Speaker 2: because obviously, before she got with Harry, she was at 136 00:05:51,903 --> 00:05:54,703 Speaker 2: a lot of these press events and Toronto Film Festival 137 00:05:54,703 --> 00:05:57,583 Speaker 2: and fashion festivals and all of that stuff. But it's 138 00:05:57,583 --> 00:06:01,183 Speaker 2: kind of odd to see her back in the limelight 139 00:06:01,183 --> 00:06:03,984 Speaker 2: in this way. It feels really weird to me. I 140 00:06:03,984 --> 00:06:06,044 Speaker 2: don't know if it does for you, but it feels odd. 141 00:06:06,384 --> 00:06:08,893 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what I wanted more of from Meghan 142 00:06:08,893 --> 00:06:12,014 Speaker 1: Markle was more of her behind the scenes Instagram stories, 143 00:06:12,213 --> 00:06:14,453 Speaker 1: because you can just tell she's, you know, how like 144 00:06:14,453 --> 00:06:17,134 Speaker 1: child stars get very stuck at the age they became famous. 145 00:06:17,173 --> 00:06:19,294 Speaker 1: I feel like she's stuck in the social media time 146 00:06:19,294 --> 00:06:21,933 Speaker 1: of when she got her Instagram and her blog taken 147 00:06:21,933 --> 00:06:24,613 Speaker 1: away from her. And so, you, and because she didn't 148 00:06:24,613 --> 00:06:26,613 Speaker 1: have Instagram for so long, and the woman loves an 149 00:06:26,613 --> 00:06:29,523 Speaker 1: Instagram post with a long caption, so do I, no judgment. 150 00:06:29,713 --> 00:06:30,534 Speaker 1: She loves an Instagram. 151 00:06:30,643 --> 00:06:33,594 Speaker 1: Story. And so she was taking videos out of the 152 00:06:33,594 --> 00:06:36,553 Speaker 1: car as she went and taking like little moments, and 153 00:06:36,553 --> 00:06:39,034 Speaker 1: people were kind of calling her tacky or saying that 154 00:06:39,034 --> 00:06:40,713 Speaker 1: she didn't have an eye or she was showing off. 155 00:06:40,824 --> 00:06:42,474 Speaker 1: And I was like, let the woman take an Instagram 156 00:06:42,474 --> 00:06:46,594 Speaker 2: story. Was she taking her stories horizontally? Is that was 157 00:06:46,594 --> 00:06:48,474 Speaker 2: she actually because I think so that's the way you 158 00:06:48,474 --> 00:06:51,634 Speaker 2: were holding your hands up for those who are I 159 00:06:51,634 --> 00:06:53,034 Speaker 1: mean I don't know, she's out the car window. There 160 00:06:53,034 --> 00:06:54,854 Speaker 1: are a few different angles. Whatever she 161 00:06:54,903 --> 00:06:57,134 Speaker 1: I was doing, it wasn't like the way that some 162 00:06:57,134 --> 00:06:58,694 Speaker 1: people think you should do an Instagram story. 163 00:06:58,873 --> 00:07:00,414 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't feel like I'm not cool anymore 164 00:07:00,414 --> 00:07:02,294 Speaker 2: because I'm a millennial, but like Gen Z is is 165 00:07:02,294 --> 00:07:05,414 Speaker 2: that like, not cool to hold your phone up horizontally 166 00:07:05,414 --> 00:07:06,724 Speaker 2: when you're taking a story? 167 00:07:07,014 --> 00:07:09,294 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But also, I just feel like don't try 168 00:07:09,294 --> 00:07:12,213 Speaker 1: and be a Gen Z if you're not. That's totally fine. So, yeah, 169 00:07:12,333 --> 00:07:14,173 Speaker 1: Meghan Markle got her criticism, but she looks like she 170 00:07:14,173 --> 00:07:15,974 Speaker 1: was having a lovely time, so I think she's the 171 00:07:15,974 --> 00:07:17,574 Speaker 1: winner at the end of the day. A few other 172 00:07:17,574 --> 00:07:19,113 Speaker 1: little celeb interactions, cause 173 00:07:19,164 --> 00:07:20,724 Speaker 1: That's what I'm really looking for. I'm not looking for, 174 00:07:20,794 --> 00:07:23,354 Speaker 1: I'm personally not gonna wear a trend from Paris Fashion 175 00:07:23,354 --> 00:07:25,594 Speaker 1: Week because it doesn't translate to our, like, you know, 176 00:07:25,713 --> 00:07:28,803 Speaker 1: normal gal lives here in Australia. But there is a 177 00:07:28,803 --> 00:07:31,993 Speaker 1: video of Charlize Theron coming and like warmly hugging a 178 00:07:31,993 --> 00:07:35,203 Speaker 1: lot of people at the Dior show. And then she, 179 00:07:35,393 --> 00:07:37,354 Speaker 1: you can see Johnny Depp not quite coming in for 180 00:07:37,354 --> 00:07:39,354 Speaker 1: a hug, but he definitely comes in salon and she 181 00:07:39,354 --> 00:07:42,194 Speaker 1: just turns and walks away. They did star in a 182 00:07:42,194 --> 00:07:43,373 Speaker 1: movie together back in 183 00:07:43,444 --> 00:07:46,344 Speaker 1: 1999, though, the astronaut's wife. So it's, it's quite fair 184 00:07:46,344 --> 00:07:49,463 Speaker 1: that Sherize might have completely forgotten that moment ever happened. 185 00:07:49,534 --> 00:07:51,453 Speaker 2: I saw the video and it looks like, so she's 186 00:07:51,453 --> 00:07:54,854 Speaker 2: doing those perfect French air kisses to Bridgette Macron, the 187 00:07:54,854 --> 00:07:59,333 Speaker 2: first lady of France, and, uh, the LVMH CEO. And 188 00:07:59,333 --> 00:08:02,333 Speaker 2: she does those really pretty little French kisses and then 189 00:08:02,333 --> 00:08:04,134 Speaker 2: kind of ignores Johnny, but I feel like she just 190 00:08:04,134 --> 00:08:06,574 Speaker 2: didn't see him cause he kind of sat back from 191 00:08:06,574 --> 00:08:07,534 Speaker 2: the both of them. 192 00:08:07,944 --> 00:08:10,734 Speaker 1: I also feel like if anyone's gonna not kiss up 193 00:08:10,734 --> 00:08:12,653 Speaker 1: to Johnny Depp, because he's been involved with Dior for 194 00:08:12,653 --> 00:08:14,814 Speaker 1: so long, and they're one of the brands that have 195 00:08:14,814 --> 00:08:16,694 Speaker 1: always kind of stood by him in many different ways. 196 00:08:16,773 --> 00:08:19,004 Speaker 1: So like, it's fitting that he would be at that show. 197 00:08:19,213 --> 00:08:20,933 Speaker 1: But I feel like from what we know about Charlize 198 00:08:20,933 --> 00:08:22,933 Speaker 1: Theron and how she talks, she would be not someone 199 00:08:22,933 --> 00:08:24,773 Speaker 1: to be kissing up to him just to save face. 200 00:08:24,814 --> 00:08:26,613 Speaker 1: And so maybe she's like, I'm not picking a side, 201 00:08:26,653 --> 00:08:27,854 Speaker 1: but I don't even want to be in a photo. 202 00:08:28,014 --> 00:08:30,403 Speaker 1: It seems like a statement to hug him and kiss him, 203 00:08:30,653 --> 00:08:32,333 Speaker 1: the way I have with everyone else here, so I'm 204 00:08:32,333 --> 00:08:33,134 Speaker 1: just gonna turn in. 205 00:08:33,604 --> 00:08:36,393 Speaker 1: And walk away. The other person making a statement was 206 00:08:36,393 --> 00:08:38,354 Speaker 1: my fave person to see in any public setting at 207 00:08:38,354 --> 00:08:40,984 Speaker 1: the moment because she's on a 10 when it comes 208 00:08:40,984 --> 00:08:42,664 Speaker 1: to publicity is Anne Hathaway. 209 00:08:42,874 --> 00:08:44,443 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were gonna say Emma Watson. 210 00:08:44,674 --> 00:08:44,794 Speaker 2: Oh, 211 00:08:44,953 --> 00:08:45,003 Speaker 1: I know, 212 00:08:45,073 --> 00:08:45,443 Speaker 2: I saw Emma, 213 00:08:45,554 --> 00:08:46,833 Speaker 1: but I just saw her kind of just going in 214 00:08:46,833 --> 00:08:48,594 Speaker 1: and out of shows looking quite chic. I 215 00:08:48,594 --> 00:08:51,153 Speaker 2: know people were like thinking she was engaged. Didn't you 216 00:08:51,153 --> 00:08:52,753 Speaker 2: see there, all the photos with her with her little 217 00:08:52,753 --> 00:08:53,643 Speaker 2: ring finger? I think 218 00:08:53,643 --> 00:08:54,273 Speaker 1: she is, I know. 219 00:08:54,364 --> 00:08:56,244 Speaker 2: She said that she's completely 220 00:08:56,244 --> 00:08:57,903 Speaker 1: single, so I think she just had a ring on. 221 00:08:58,073 --> 00:09:01,594 Speaker 1: But Anne Hathaway walked into the Balenciaga show, graphic t-shirt, 222 00:09:01,794 --> 00:09:05,203 Speaker 1: big leather gloves, her like messy hair, her new face, 223 00:09:05,234 --> 00:09:08,953 Speaker 1: all done up. Um, she looks gorgeous, but she loves 224 00:09:08,953 --> 00:09:10,674 Speaker 1: to sort of like put on a bit of a 225 00:09:10,674 --> 00:09:12,953 Speaker 1: show for the PAPs, which I understand because she's a performer, 226 00:09:12,994 --> 00:09:14,474 Speaker 1: she's a theater kid at heart. She loves to put 227 00:09:14,474 --> 00:09:17,393 Speaker 1: on a show. And she saw Simone Ashley, who was 228 00:09:17,393 --> 00:09:19,434 Speaker 1: her co-star in the new Devil Wears Prada movie. 229 00:09:19,833 --> 00:09:23,294 Speaker 1: And she yells out to her, Simone Ashley, and it 230 00:09:23,294 --> 00:09:26,054 Speaker 1: sounds like she's having a fangirl moment, but then she 231 00:09:26,054 --> 00:09:27,893 Speaker 1: runs up to her and embraces her, and she says 232 00:09:27,893 --> 00:09:30,854 Speaker 1: to the photographers around them, I recognized her back, that's 233 00:09:30,854 --> 00:09:31,844 Speaker 1: how close we are. 234 00:09:32,763 --> 00:09:34,963 Speaker 1: And I was like, get it, your friends, your co-stars, 235 00:09:35,083 --> 00:09:35,443 Speaker 1: you guys are 236 00:09:35,443 --> 00:09:35,794 Speaker 1: cool. 237 00:09:36,034 --> 00:09:38,044 Speaker 2: I love that. I actually love Anne Hathaway. I don't 238 00:09:38,044 --> 00:09:39,403 Speaker 2: know why people have a problem with her. I just, 239 00:09:39,484 --> 00:09:39,563 Speaker 2: I 240 00:09:39,563 --> 00:09:41,124 Speaker 1: mean, I love how she puts on a show, like 241 00:09:41,124 --> 00:09:42,643 Speaker 1: the whole, like, she steps out of her car and 242 00:09:42,643 --> 00:09:45,724 Speaker 1: she's like, Karma, karma, please step back. There's no need 243 00:09:45,724 --> 00:09:48,203 Speaker 1: to panic. There's no need to push. Please step back. 244 00:09:48,284 --> 00:09:51,164 Speaker 1: This is calm, this is calm. And then she'll always 245 00:09:51,164 --> 00:09:52,773 Speaker 1: like have a little like flirty thing to say to 246 00:09:52,773 --> 00:09:54,844 Speaker 1: the photographers, and she struts in. 247 00:09:55,184 --> 00:09:55,374 Speaker 1: Yeah, 248 00:09:55,453 --> 00:09:56,094 Speaker 2: I thoroughly 249 00:09:56,094 --> 00:09:57,333 Speaker 1: enjoy her she's there to put on a show and 250 00:09:57,333 --> 00:09:57,844 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, 251 00:09:58,013 --> 00:09:58,174 Speaker 2: I 252 00:09:58,174 --> 00:10:01,133 Speaker 2: like it too. So yes, a lot of amazing celebrity 253 00:10:01,133 --> 00:10:02,813 Speaker 2: sightings at Paris Fashion Week this year. 254 00:10:05,003 --> 00:10:08,184 Speaker 1: So following his trial, which we have been covering extensively 255 00:10:08,184 --> 00:10:11,063 Speaker 1: here on the spill, Sean Combs has been sentenced to 256 00:10:11,063 --> 00:10:14,534 Speaker 1: 50 months in prison. That sentencing happened this past Friday 257 00:10:14,903 --> 00:10:18,424 Speaker 1: after his federal sex crime case. So, we did hear 258 00:10:18,424 --> 00:10:20,924 Speaker 1: from the judge that Sean Combs could be released in 259 00:10:20,924 --> 00:10:24,063 Speaker 1: less than 3 years after receiving credit for the time 260 00:10:24,063 --> 00:10:26,463 Speaker 1: he's already spent locked up. So he has been in 261 00:10:26,463 --> 00:10:30,864 Speaker 1: that prison, held in custody since September 2024. People would 262 00:10:30,864 --> 00:10:31,633 Speaker 1: know that he and his 263 00:10:31,684 --> 00:10:34,313 Speaker 1: Legal team did request to let him be out on 264 00:10:34,313 --> 00:10:37,474 Speaker 1: bail many times. During that time he was in prison, 265 00:10:37,523 --> 00:10:39,984 Speaker 1: it was always denied. A lot of stories came out 266 00:10:39,984 --> 00:10:42,193 Speaker 1: about what it was like for him in prison in 267 00:10:42,193 --> 00:10:43,994 Speaker 1: terms of it being like a very, not just an 268 00:10:43,994 --> 00:10:47,753 Speaker 1: intense security space, but on the lower end of prison stays, 269 00:10:47,833 --> 00:10:49,374 Speaker 1: if that makes any sense when you're kind of looking 270 00:10:49,374 --> 00:10:50,383 Speaker 1: at where he was living. 271 00:10:50,463 --> 00:10:50,713 Speaker 2: And you 272 00:10:50,713 --> 00:10:52,434 Speaker 2: can also think about like the way he would have 273 00:10:52,434 --> 00:10:57,354 Speaker 2: been received by inmates as well. Like, despite the charges, 274 00:10:57,513 --> 00:10:58,354 Speaker 2: I can imagine. 275 00:10:58,453 --> 00:11:03,713 Speaker 2: And someone as prolific as him would be welcomed with 276 00:11:03,924 --> 00:11:05,563 Speaker 2: more open arms. Yes, 277 00:11:05,753 --> 00:11:08,244 Speaker 1: yes. And so, yeah, there was obviously a huge amount 278 00:11:08,244 --> 00:11:10,273 Speaker 1: of coverage, both of the court cases and his life 279 00:11:10,273 --> 00:11:12,724 Speaker 1: in prison over the last year. When he went to 280 00:11:12,724 --> 00:11:15,563 Speaker 1: the court for the sentencing, he had already sent a 281 00:11:15,563 --> 00:11:19,844 Speaker 1: 4-page letter to the judge, sort of explaining his remorse, 282 00:11:20,164 --> 00:11:23,203 Speaker 1: explaining his thoughts, and just kind of like putting almost 283 00:11:23,203 --> 00:11:25,174 Speaker 1: like his final say out to the 284 00:11:25,224 --> 00:11:27,974 Speaker 1: Court. And then the actual sentencing, he stood up before 285 00:11:27,974 --> 00:11:30,414 Speaker 1: the court and the judge for 10 minutes and made 286 00:11:30,414 --> 00:11:33,094 Speaker 1: a statement. And in that statement, which has been made 287 00:11:33,094 --> 00:11:35,374 Speaker 1: available for the public to read, he said that he 288 00:11:35,374 --> 00:11:38,094 Speaker 1: was deeply sorry for all the hurt and the pain 289 00:11:38,094 --> 00:11:40,693 Speaker 1: that he has caused by others. He then went on 290 00:11:40,693 --> 00:11:44,094 Speaker 1: to say, speaking about two of the women who testified 291 00:11:44,094 --> 00:11:48,083 Speaker 1: in the court case. So we had R&B star Cassandra 292 00:11:48,083 --> 00:11:51,943 Speaker 1: Ventura Fine, known as Cassie, more prominently, and also 293 00:11:51,994 --> 00:11:54,583 Speaker 1: A woman who was just identified as Jane throughout the 294 00:11:54,583 --> 00:11:58,503 Speaker 1: court proceedings. So both those women testified against him, and 295 00:11:58,503 --> 00:12:01,333 Speaker 1: in his statement, he offered up an apology to both 296 00:12:01,333 --> 00:12:03,943 Speaker 1: of them. So he said publicly, I want to personally 297 00:12:03,943 --> 00:12:07,133 Speaker 1: apologize again to Cassie Ventura for any harm or hurt 298 00:12:07,133 --> 00:12:12,424 Speaker 1: that I've caused her, emotionally or physically. My actions were disgusting, shameful, 299 00:12:12,463 --> 00:12:14,864 Speaker 1: and sick. And then he went on to just offer 300 00:12:14,864 --> 00:12:17,263 Speaker 1: up that same apology to Jane and just say that 301 00:12:17,263 --> 00:12:18,624 Speaker 1: he understood his wrongdoing. 302 00:12:18,943 --> 00:12:22,624 Speaker 1: And that's obviously a huge statement just because both Cassie 303 00:12:22,624 --> 00:12:25,424 Speaker 1: and Jane testified during the trial that Sean Combs had 304 00:12:25,424 --> 00:12:27,023 Speaker 1: physically abused and controlled them. 305 00:12:27,383 --> 00:12:30,104 Speaker 1: And they had both alleged that he had them participate 306 00:12:30,104 --> 00:12:33,023 Speaker 1: in these kind of marathon drug fueled sexual encounters, the 307 00:12:33,023 --> 00:12:36,513 Speaker 1: freak off with male escorts, so many allegations, which unfortunately, 308 00:12:36,554 --> 00:12:39,273 Speaker 1: he was cleared of. It was a prostitution charge that 309 00:12:39,273 --> 00:12:42,383 Speaker 1: he ended up being the charges keeping him in prison. Yeah, 310 00:12:42,594 --> 00:12:45,193 Speaker 2: we have covered this case pretty extensively on the spill. 311 00:12:45,273 --> 00:12:48,784 Speaker 2: I've watched a bunch of documentaries on Sean Peter D Combs, 312 00:12:49,034 --> 00:12:51,953 Speaker 2: and I find this very difficult to accept. And I 313 00:12:51,953 --> 00:12:54,713 Speaker 2: think a lot of people are very disappointed in this 314 00:12:54,713 --> 00:12:55,434 Speaker 2: particular sentence. 315 00:12:55,546 --> 00:12:59,815 Speaker 2: Given the severity of the charges that were laid against him. Now, obviously, 316 00:12:59,856 --> 00:13:02,296 Speaker 2: he wasn't convicted of the more serious ones, which is 317 00:13:02,296 --> 00:13:04,856 Speaker 2: why his prison sentence will probably be closer to that 318 00:13:04,856 --> 00:13:07,135 Speaker 2: 4-year mark. He may get out earlier than that, we 319 00:13:07,135 --> 00:13:10,695 Speaker 2: don't know. It is really disappointing to me after seeing 320 00:13:10,695 --> 00:13:14,575 Speaker 2: a lot of the testimony from the victims and the 321 00:13:14,575 --> 00:13:18,716 Speaker 2: people who are alleging these particular crimes of PDD, not 322 00:13:18,716 --> 00:13:21,055 Speaker 2: just the ones that he was charged for, but previous 323 00:13:21,055 --> 00:13:23,615 Speaker 2: ones that he had been charged for in like the 90s. 324 00:13:24,148 --> 00:13:27,028 Speaker 2: And it just, it feels so hollow to me, these 325 00:13:27,028 --> 00:13:31,357 Speaker 2: apologies that he's made. Yeah, it just doesn't feel authentic 326 00:13:31,357 --> 00:13:33,408 Speaker 2: to me, and it feels like a very, like, he 327 00:13:33,408 --> 00:13:34,718 Speaker 2: feels like he's gotten away with 328 00:13:34,718 --> 00:13:35,028 Speaker 2: it. 329 00:13:35,278 --> 00:13:38,117 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot of people were really distraught 330 00:13:38,117 --> 00:13:40,218 Speaker 1: and dismayed when they heard that he'd been found not 331 00:13:40,218 --> 00:13:44,588 Speaker 1: guilty of a number of the bigger charges, specifically when 332 00:13:44,838 --> 00:13:47,088 Speaker 1: you had all these women coming forward. And the thing is, 333 00:13:47,278 --> 00:13:49,718 Speaker 1: there were hundreds of people who came forward with stories 334 00:13:49,718 --> 00:13:51,857 Speaker 1: and their stories couldn't be very 335 00:13:52,219 --> 00:13:54,419 Speaker 1: for a number of different reasons. I think that's the 336 00:13:54,419 --> 00:13:57,130 Speaker 1: thing to remember is that like, it takes so much 337 00:13:57,130 --> 00:13:58,940 Speaker 1: to get a story like this to court and to 338 00:13:58,940 --> 00:14:01,580 Speaker 1: get a trial like this. The victims have to have 339 00:14:01,580 --> 00:14:04,940 Speaker 1: so much evidence, they have to share so many personal accounts. 340 00:14:04,979 --> 00:14:07,820 Speaker 1: They have to have so many stories vetted that the 341 00:14:07,820 --> 00:14:10,979 Speaker 1: few people whose stories made it to the trial were 342 00:14:10,979 --> 00:14:13,419 Speaker 1: a representation of the hundreds of people that had made 343 00:14:13,419 --> 00:14:16,859 Speaker 1: allegations and for technical reasons couldn't be included. And then 344 00:14:16,859 --> 00:14:19,299 Speaker 1: you had people like Cassie who were in that courtroom 345 00:14:19,299 --> 00:14:19,979 Speaker 1: facing him. 346 00:14:20,463 --> 00:14:23,383 Speaker 1: On so many days, and she was very heavily pregnant 347 00:14:23,383 --> 00:14:26,823 Speaker 1: at the time, and sharing these horrific tales, and the 348 00:14:26,823 --> 00:14:28,823 Speaker 1: fact that it was just one count he was found 349 00:14:28,823 --> 00:14:32,263 Speaker 1: guilty of for 4 years with time already served. It's 350 00:14:32,263 --> 00:14:34,104 Speaker 1: not nothing. At least he will be in jail for 351 00:14:34,104 --> 00:14:36,344 Speaker 1: a few more years. But when you think that people 352 00:14:36,344 --> 00:14:38,304 Speaker 1: were thinking that he could have been in there for life, 353 00:14:38,424 --> 00:14:40,023 Speaker 1: this does seem like a very hollow. 354 00:14:40,744 --> 00:14:42,294 Speaker 1: Kind of ending to this trial. 355 00:14:42,374 --> 00:14:42,534 Speaker 2: And 356 00:14:42,534 --> 00:14:44,643 Speaker 2: I think the problem is, and I think this is 357 00:14:44,643 --> 00:14:48,253 Speaker 2: a really challenging part with a lot of these particular convictions, 358 00:14:48,333 --> 00:14:51,374 Speaker 2: particularly of men in power, is that these crimes are 359 00:14:51,374 --> 00:14:53,934 Speaker 2: really hard to verify, like you said, and it is 360 00:14:53,934 --> 00:14:56,844 Speaker 2: a lot of the time he said, she said, and 361 00:14:57,133 --> 00:14:59,573 Speaker 2: the defense team know that. They know that there's a 362 00:14:59,573 --> 00:15:03,164 Speaker 2: lot of technicalities that they can get out on. Now, obviously, 363 00:15:03,453 --> 00:15:05,374 Speaker 2: he has not been convicted of these things, so he's 364 00:15:05,374 --> 00:15:06,374 Speaker 2: not guilty of them. 365 00:15:06,753 --> 00:15:09,554 Speaker 2: This is completely my opinion. I am not saying that 366 00:15:09,554 --> 00:15:11,273 Speaker 2: he is guilty of them. This is just my opinion 367 00:15:11,273 --> 00:15:15,073 Speaker 2: of seeing these victims come forward. And as a bit 368 00:15:15,073 --> 00:15:17,713 Speaker 2: of an empath, I don't feel people's pain. And just, 369 00:15:17,953 --> 00:15:20,583 Speaker 2: you know, hearing Cassie talk about it during the trial, 370 00:15:20,874 --> 00:15:23,073 Speaker 2: I just feel really heartbroken for her. But we do 371 00:15:23,073 --> 00:15:24,583 Speaker 2: have a statement from her as well. 372 00:15:24,713 --> 00:15:26,174 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think something that really 373 00:15:26,219 --> 00:15:28,328 Speaker 1: Gives a lot of insight into the fallout that so 374 00:15:28,328 --> 00:15:30,528 Speaker 1: many victims who are involved in this case are feeling 375 00:15:30,528 --> 00:15:33,729 Speaker 1: right now is a statement that was made from Cassie 376 00:15:33,729 --> 00:15:36,049 Speaker 1: around the time of the sentencing, and when she found 377 00:15:36,049 --> 00:15:38,919 Speaker 1: out that he wasn't found guilty. She said, I still 378 00:15:38,919 --> 00:15:42,528 Speaker 1: have nightmares and flashbacks on a regular basis, and I 379 00:15:42,528 --> 00:15:45,799 Speaker 1: continue to acquire psychological care to cope with my past. 380 00:15:46,088 --> 00:15:47,328 Speaker 1: And then she wanted to say, and I think this 381 00:15:47,328 --> 00:15:51,049 Speaker 1: is really important, my worries that Sean Combs or his 382 00:15:51,049 --> 00:15:54,119 Speaker 1: associates will come after me and my family is a reality. 383 00:15:54,573 --> 00:15:56,494 Speaker 1: She went on to say then that she and her 384 00:15:56,494 --> 00:15:59,174 Speaker 1: family have now moved away from the New York area 385 00:15:59,174 --> 00:16:01,693 Speaker 1: as a safety precaution. That's the amount that she's fearing 386 00:16:01,693 --> 00:16:03,453 Speaker 1: for her safety and the safety of her loved ones 387 00:16:03,453 --> 00:16:05,763 Speaker 1: at the moment. And she went on to say, 388 00:16:05,974 --> 00:16:08,393 Speaker 1: I am so scared that if he walks free, his 389 00:16:08,393 --> 00:16:11,763 Speaker 1: first actions will be swift retribution towards me and others 390 00:16:11,763 --> 00:16:14,443 Speaker 1: who spoke up about his abuse of this trial. As 391 00:16:14,443 --> 00:16:17,273 Speaker 1: much progress as I have made in recovering from his abuse, 392 00:16:17,604 --> 00:16:20,073 Speaker 1: I remain very much afraid of what he is capable 393 00:16:20,073 --> 00:16:23,193 Speaker 1: of and the malice he undoubtedly harbors towards me for 394 00:16:23,193 --> 00:16:24,724 Speaker 1: having the bravery to tell the 395 00:16:24,724 --> 00:16:25,273 Speaker 1: truth. 396 00:16:25,643 --> 00:16:27,763 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is so key here, and I 397 00:16:27,763 --> 00:16:30,763 Speaker 2: think it's a fear of a lot of women and 398 00:16:30,763 --> 00:16:33,563 Speaker 2: victims who speak out against powerful men. 399 00:16:34,143 --> 00:16:37,253 Speaker 2: It's this fear of retribution, because they do have so 400 00:16:37,253 --> 00:16:42,403 Speaker 2: much power. And Diddy has had so much power for decades. 401 00:16:42,453 --> 00:16:46,653 Speaker 2: He has been a mainstay in the industry and a powerful, 402 00:16:46,734 --> 00:16:50,054 Speaker 2: powerful figure. This is a very real concern, and you 403 00:16:50,054 --> 00:16:53,094 Speaker 2: can hear that in her statement. That doesn't surprise me. 404 00:16:53,153 --> 00:16:56,213 Speaker 2: I mean, she is not immune from that fig, even 405 00:16:56,213 --> 00:16:58,874 Speaker 2: though she is a, a celebrity in her own right. 406 00:16:59,013 --> 00:17:00,083 Speaker 2: She is not immune from 407 00:17:00,128 --> 00:17:03,179 Speaker 2: The fear of the retribution of someone as powerful as Diddy. 408 00:17:03,518 --> 00:17:06,278 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And I think also, like, the important thing is, 409 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,878 Speaker 1: is like being across her statement, the statements from other 410 00:17:08,878 --> 00:17:11,768 Speaker 1: people that have been involved in this and like continuing 411 00:17:11,768 --> 00:17:14,798 Speaker 1: to follow the story from Cassie's point of view, especially 412 00:17:14,798 --> 00:17:18,279 Speaker 1: is really important because I feel like when this case 413 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: first came out and when Sean Combs was first arrested 414 00:17:20,719 --> 00:17:24,078 Speaker 1: and his home was first raided, it became this huge 415 00:17:24,078 --> 00:17:26,068 Speaker 1: worldwide situation and people 416 00:17:26,114 --> 00:17:28,703 Speaker 1: People were very invested in it because he was a 417 00:17:28,703 --> 00:17:32,624 Speaker 1: celebrity who was going through this huge public thing, but 418 00:17:32,624 --> 00:17:35,224 Speaker 1: also there was so much interest in which other celebrities 419 00:17:35,224 --> 00:17:37,533 Speaker 1: were going to be pulled in. There were all those 420 00:17:37,533 --> 00:17:41,043 Speaker 1: theories about tapes with different celebrity behavior that was gonna 421 00:17:41,043 --> 00:17:43,384 Speaker 1: come out. People thought there was a big list of 422 00:17:43,384 --> 00:17:46,303 Speaker 1: all these big A-list celebrities who were gonna be taken 423 00:17:46,303 --> 00:17:49,134 Speaker 1: down the Sean Combs trial. There were all these theories 424 00:17:49,134 --> 00:17:51,124 Speaker 1: around who celebrity A was and who celebrity B. And, 425 00:17:51,134 --> 00:17:52,033 Speaker 1: and this idea, like, 426 00:17:52,099 --> 00:17:54,249 Speaker 1: They're so big, like the world's gonna be shattered when 427 00:17:54,249 --> 00:17:57,208 Speaker 1: we find out who they are. And obviously, the trial 428 00:17:57,208 --> 00:17:59,808 Speaker 1: progressed in a different way, where a lot of celebrities 429 00:17:59,808 --> 00:18:02,369 Speaker 1: were involved and they were called to give statement and testimony, 430 00:18:02,379 --> 00:18:06,168 Speaker 1: but no celebrity was involved in a huge way. No 431 00:18:06,168 --> 00:18:09,009 Speaker 1: celebrities were taken down by this. And I feel like 432 00:18:09,009 --> 00:18:10,969 Speaker 1: once that became apparent that it wasn't going to be 433 00:18:10,969 --> 00:18:14,838 Speaker 1: this roasting of celebrities, people dropped off and people lost interest, 434 00:18:15,009 --> 00:18:17,288 Speaker 1: and I just, I don't love that because especially like 435 00:18:17,288 --> 00:18:17,999 Speaker 1: all these women. 436 00:18:18,583 --> 00:18:20,813 Speaker 1: Put their lives on the line and their mental health 437 00:18:20,813 --> 00:18:22,904 Speaker 1: and their own safety on the line to tell these stories. 438 00:18:22,984 --> 00:18:25,303 Speaker 1: And that's why I think with like, with these statements, 439 00:18:25,344 --> 00:18:27,423 Speaker 1: it's really important that they be given the same amount 440 00:18:27,423 --> 00:18:30,943 Speaker 1: of airtime as the possibility of like a Jennifer Lopez 441 00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:31,224 Speaker 1: being 442 00:18:31,224 --> 00:18:31,614 Speaker 1: involved. 443 00:18:31,663 --> 00:18:33,783 Speaker 2: I just, I also think like it became a bit 444 00:18:33,783 --> 00:18:37,053 Speaker 2: of a joke, like the whole baby thing became this joke. 445 00:18:37,463 --> 00:18:40,104 Speaker 2: And I don't think that that is fair to the people. 446 00:18:40,236 --> 00:18:43,026 Speaker 2: Who suffered at his hands. I think a lot of 447 00:18:43,026 --> 00:18:46,746 Speaker 2: people thought that this would kind of start to become 448 00:18:46,746 --> 00:18:49,866 Speaker 2: almost like an Epstein-esque case in the way that it 449 00:18:49,866 --> 00:18:54,106 Speaker 2: would start to reveal names of other people. Did you 450 00:18:54,106 --> 00:18:58,067 Speaker 2: feel that comparison of like, OK, what does, did he have? Like, 451 00:18:58,187 --> 00:19:01,026 Speaker 2: what does he have against all of these different celebrities? 452 00:19:01,087 --> 00:19:02,106 Speaker 2: And we thought we were gonna find that. 453 00:19:02,199 --> 00:19:05,270 Speaker 2: And it seems like it's been kind of brushed under 454 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:07,589 Speaker 2: a little bit. We might find out more at later dates. 455 00:19:07,709 --> 00:19:12,229 Speaker 2: There may be more cases coming against him as time progresses, 456 00:19:12,309 --> 00:19:14,550 Speaker 2: but yeah, it does feel like he got off lightly. 457 00:19:14,670 --> 00:19:17,109 Speaker 2: It upsets me. I do really feel for Cassie and 458 00:19:17,109 --> 00:19:19,510 Speaker 2: her team. You can tell she's quite disappointed in the 459 00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:23,270 Speaker 2: verdict and what he has received. Yeah, that's my feelings 460 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:23,780 Speaker 2: on it. 461 00:19:25,413 --> 00:19:29,144 Speaker 2: So, the Kardashians have just released the season 7 trailer 462 00:19:29,144 --> 00:19:32,463 Speaker 2: for the Kardashians, which is the Disney Plus version of 463 00:19:32,463 --> 00:19:35,224 Speaker 2: Keeping Up with the Kardashians, and it is going to 464 00:19:35,224 --> 00:19:37,823 Speaker 2: be airing on Disney Plus on October 23rd, which happens 465 00:19:37,823 --> 00:19:39,384 Speaker 2: to be my wedding anniversary, Laura Brodney. 466 00:19:39,463 --> 00:19:43,974 Speaker 1: What a happy anniversary to you. The Kardashians together. I 467 00:19:43,974 --> 00:19:45,974 Speaker 1: feel actually. I love the Kardashians show. I'm not even 468 00:19:45,974 --> 00:19:47,104 Speaker 1: gonna lie about it. This is 469 00:19:47,104 --> 00:19:47,264 Speaker 2: the 470 00:19:47,264 --> 00:19:50,024 Speaker 2: 7th series on the Hulu production. 471 00:19:50,504 --> 00:19:53,474 Speaker 2: And we got a couple of like little insights into 472 00:19:53,474 --> 00:19:55,744 Speaker 2: what's going on in the Kardashian lives at the moment, 473 00:19:55,754 --> 00:19:57,673 Speaker 2: because it does feel like they've been laying low for 474 00:19:57,673 --> 00:19:58,303 Speaker 2: a while. 475 00:19:58,673 --> 00:20:01,833 Speaker 1: Yes. So they've done their usual tact of laying low 476 00:20:01,833 --> 00:20:04,193 Speaker 1: for quite a while in order for, like, to give 477 00:20:04,193 --> 00:20:06,724 Speaker 1: themselves a rest out of the spotlight, but also to 478 00:20:06,734 --> 00:20:09,453 Speaker 1: let all these controversies and scandals, or even just questions, 479 00:20:09,514 --> 00:20:12,344 Speaker 1: some of it's very positive about their life, and then 480 00:20:12,634 --> 00:20:14,673 Speaker 1: all of it comes out on the TV show. And 481 00:20:14,673 --> 00:20:14,823 Speaker 1: that 482 00:20:14,878 --> 00:20:16,427 Speaker 1: That's the whole thing is like the TV show always 483 00:20:16,427 --> 00:20:19,137 Speaker 1: comes out after all of these big things have happened, 484 00:20:19,387 --> 00:20:22,108 Speaker 1: but it gets people in, even though these scandals have passed, 485 00:20:22,187 --> 00:20:24,748 Speaker 1: it gets people in because it shows a behind the 486 00:20:24,748 --> 00:20:27,147 Speaker 1: scenes that answers questions and happened at the time. So 487 00:20:27,147 --> 00:20:30,218 Speaker 1: the Kardashians are very good at, like, they watch something unfold, 488 00:20:30,348 --> 00:20:32,187 Speaker 1: they think about it, and then they go and film 489 00:20:32,187 --> 00:20:35,218 Speaker 1: their response months later. So it's a very curated response. 490 00:20:35,427 --> 00:20:37,907 Speaker 1: And I think that's why, like, the trailer starts with 491 00:20:37,907 --> 00:20:39,297 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian going into the 492 00:20:39,352 --> 00:20:43,141 Speaker 1: Trial for her Paris robbery. This morning, Kim Kardashian testifying 493 00:20:43,141 --> 00:20:45,281 Speaker 1: for the first time in front of the men she 494 00:20:45,281 --> 00:20:47,501 Speaker 1: believed were going to kill her. Do you think we 495 00:20:47,501 --> 00:20:49,541 Speaker 1: really should walk in there with all the diamonds on? 496 00:20:49,661 --> 00:20:51,901 Speaker 1: I want to be who I wanna be. That footage 497 00:20:51,901 --> 00:20:54,222 Speaker 1: would have been very deliberately put there because that was 498 00:20:54,222 --> 00:20:56,702 Speaker 1: the big criticism at the time, that she went into 499 00:20:56,702 --> 00:20:58,422 Speaker 1: that trial dripping in those diamonds. 500 00:20:58,481 --> 00:21:02,381 Speaker 2: And these women have such control over every single aspect 501 00:21:02,381 --> 00:21:03,741 Speaker 2: of this production, particularly now. 502 00:21:03,826 --> 00:21:08,745 Speaker 2: This Hulu version of the Kardashians, that everything is curated 503 00:21:09,015 --> 00:21:11,875 Speaker 2: to a T. You're so right. She's done this on purpose. 504 00:21:12,335 --> 00:21:14,576 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, also, that's just what building a media 505 00:21:14,576 --> 00:21:17,215 Speaker 1: empire and, and then having a TV show is all about. 506 00:21:17,296 --> 00:21:19,706 Speaker 1: But there were some interesting bits in this trailer. One 507 00:21:19,706 --> 00:21:21,816 Speaker 1: is that we have a few returning stars from the 508 00:21:21,816 --> 00:21:25,416 Speaker 1: old Keeping Up with the Kardashians days. So Robert Kardashian 509 00:21:25,416 --> 00:21:27,975 Speaker 1: is seen. He's very famously in the first few seasons 510 00:21:27,975 --> 00:21:28,245 Speaker 1: of 511 00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: Keeping Up with the Kardashians. It was a huge name. 512 00:21:30,489 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: And then after going through a lot of very public 513 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,609 Speaker 1: mental health struggles and struggles with his body image, and 514 00:21:36,609 --> 00:21:39,489 Speaker 1: all these things, and also like a very public break 515 00:21:39,489 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: from Black China and a custody dispute over their daughter dream, 516 00:21:42,410 --> 00:21:45,250 Speaker 1: and all these things, fights with the family has been 517 00:21:45,250 --> 00:21:47,839 Speaker 1: pretty much out of the spotlight for many, many, many years, 518 00:21:47,969 --> 00:21:49,849 Speaker 1: even to the point where he was on the plane 519 00:21:49,849 --> 00:21:52,729 Speaker 1: going to Kim Kardashian's wedding to Kanye West, and then 520 00:21:53,024 --> 00:21:55,024 Speaker 1: At the last minute flew back to Los Angeles cause 521 00:21:55,024 --> 00:21:57,183 Speaker 1: he was so worried about being in the pictures and 522 00:21:57,183 --> 00:21:59,303 Speaker 1: all these things, and he is in this new trailer 523 00:21:59,303 --> 00:22:01,864 Speaker 1: and he has not been seen in a TV show 524 00:22:01,864 --> 00:22:03,864 Speaker 1: or really at all for years. Yeah, 525 00:22:03,943 --> 00:22:08,024 Speaker 2: so basically, he hasn't been on a Kardashian's show for 526 00:22:08,024 --> 00:22:11,134 Speaker 2: 8 years, apparently. So we're seeing him back, and my 527 00:22:11,224 --> 00:22:12,974 Speaker 2: favorite return is obviously, 528 00:22:13,303 --> 00:22:16,634 Speaker 2: The king himself, Scott Disick. I am so excited that 529 00:22:16,634 --> 00:22:17,323 Speaker 2: he's back. 530 00:22:17,533 --> 00:22:19,254 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he takes the, I mean, they've, they've 531 00:22:19,254 --> 00:22:21,254 Speaker 1: reduced his role, but he does make a cameo, a 532 00:22:21,254 --> 00:22:22,404 Speaker 1: few cameos every season. 533 00:22:22,693 --> 00:22:23,333 Speaker 2: I 534 00:22:23,333 --> 00:22:25,453 Speaker 2: love Scott Disick so much. Like, I really miss the 535 00:22:25,453 --> 00:22:29,884 Speaker 2: days of Scott and Chloe playing pranks on each other. Like, 536 00:22:29,894 --> 00:22:33,014 Speaker 2: that is, for me, peak, keeping up with the Kardashians 537 00:22:33,014 --> 00:22:36,533 Speaker 2: is Scott Disick, when he was funny, not when he 538 00:22:36,533 --> 00:22:38,173 Speaker 2: was like in the full douchebag mode where he was 539 00:22:38,173 --> 00:22:41,364 Speaker 2: like putting money in waiters' faces. Not that Scott Disick, like, 540 00:22:41,984 --> 00:22:46,484 Speaker 2: Chloe and Scott Disick playing pranks, and when they like, 541 00:22:46,494 --> 00:22:49,433 Speaker 2: Scott and Courtney actually liked each other. 542 00:22:50,014 --> 00:22:52,764 Speaker 2: And, you know, her, him like trying to shave her 543 00:22:52,764 --> 00:22:55,963 Speaker 2: when she was pregnant. Like, those moments are my favorite 544 00:22:55,963 --> 00:22:58,793 Speaker 2: Kardashian moments. So I miss him in the show. 545 00:22:59,004 --> 00:23:01,124 Speaker 1: I liked him in old school Kim and the Kardashians. 546 00:23:01,163 --> 00:23:03,283 Speaker 1: I don't love when he pops up on the Kardashians now, 547 00:23:03,333 --> 00:23:06,724 Speaker 1: only because a lot of them only do filler storylines now. 548 00:23:06,803 --> 00:23:09,083 Speaker 1: They won't actually film anything about their lives. So now 549 00:23:09,083 --> 00:23:12,443 Speaker 1: when he's on, it's very much this setup where like, 550 00:23:12,453 --> 00:23:15,283 Speaker 1: someone's coming to the house to visit him, or Chloe 551 00:23:15,283 --> 00:23:17,563 Speaker 1: and Chris are like trying to find him a girlfriend. 552 00:23:17,644 --> 00:23:18,394 Speaker 1: All stuff that's like so 553 00:23:18,443 --> 00:23:20,154 Speaker 1: I'm like, don't show me a skit. I don't want 554 00:23:20,154 --> 00:23:21,943 Speaker 1: to see a skit. I don't want to see a setup. 555 00:23:22,073 --> 00:23:24,634 Speaker 1: I just want to see documentary style of like your crazy, 556 00:23:24,793 --> 00:23:26,994 Speaker 1: fabulous lives. So I'd be happy for him to be 557 00:23:26,994 --> 00:23:28,713 Speaker 1: left out if that's what he's gonna bring to the table. 558 00:23:28,793 --> 00:23:29,354 Speaker 2: I feel like 559 00:23:29,354 --> 00:23:31,073 Speaker 2: as well though, because I've been doing it for so long, 560 00:23:31,114 --> 00:23:33,904 Speaker 2: it is, it is really like packaged up now. It's 561 00:23:33,904 --> 00:23:35,433 Speaker 2: not the same as what it used 562 00:23:35,433 --> 00:23:35,984 Speaker 2: to be. 563 00:23:36,354 --> 00:23:39,713 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, some of them are. We also have Caitlyn 564 00:23:39,713 --> 00:23:42,754 Speaker 1: Jenner returning, which has been a big thing because she 565 00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:46,463 Speaker 1: famously had a huge falling out with the Kardashians, which 566 00:23:46,463 --> 00:23:46,764 Speaker 1: was separate. 567 00:23:46,984 --> 00:23:49,583 Speaker 1: to her divorce from Kris Jenner. They were working through that, 568 00:23:49,624 --> 00:23:51,703 Speaker 1: and then Caitlyn Jenner's book came out and a lot 569 00:23:51,703 --> 00:23:55,583 Speaker 1: of the Kardashian family thought that she wrote very unfairly 570 00:23:55,583 --> 00:23:58,384 Speaker 1: about Kris, that she had lied. And so that was 571 00:23:58,384 --> 00:24:01,813 Speaker 1: really the big kind of catalyst for her being kind 572 00:24:01,813 --> 00:24:04,423 Speaker 1: of removed from the family. But it looks like she's 573 00:24:04,423 --> 00:24:06,734 Speaker 1: in there, like she's in a few of the family scenes, 574 00:24:06,943 --> 00:24:09,063 Speaker 1: and Kendall Jenner's like, Well, it makes for good TV. 575 00:24:09,104 --> 00:24:10,864 Speaker 1: And I was like, Isn't that the truth? Well, also, 576 00:24:10,943 --> 00:24:13,183 Speaker 2: I mean, it must be quite sad as Kendall and 577 00:24:13,183 --> 00:24:15,144 Speaker 2: Kylie just to basically lose their dad. 578 00:24:15,693 --> 00:24:18,514 Speaker 2: And basically have your whole family turning against your dad, 579 00:24:18,553 --> 00:24:22,104 Speaker 2: who is still your father, and you still love her. 580 00:24:22,234 --> 00:24:24,793 Speaker 2: Like that is, that would be really challenging. But that'll 581 00:24:24,793 --> 00:24:27,673 Speaker 2: be interesting because Chris and Caitlin have definitely not had 582 00:24:27,673 --> 00:24:31,913 Speaker 2: as much contact for a number of years. So we 583 00:24:31,913 --> 00:24:33,354 Speaker 2: see a little bit of tension there. 584 00:24:33,774 --> 00:24:36,783 Speaker 2: And then Kourtney and Khloe are fighting again. 585 00:24:37,073 --> 00:24:39,953 Speaker 1: Yeah, over the whole like, who's happy, who's got a 586 00:24:39,953 --> 00:24:42,313 Speaker 1: better life, all that sort of stuff. Here's my kind 587 00:24:42,313 --> 00:24:44,874 Speaker 1: of thoughts on the whole Kardashian thing. As I said, 588 00:24:44,953 --> 00:24:46,874 Speaker 1: I'm a fan and I will watch the Kardashians. I 589 00:24:46,874 --> 00:24:48,953 Speaker 1: don't hate watch it. I don't watch it, ironically, I 590 00:24:48,953 --> 00:24:50,394 Speaker 1: just watch it. Well, I watch it for work, but 591 00:24:50,394 --> 00:24:52,754 Speaker 1: I also quite like it. But I think we just 592 00:24:52,754 --> 00:24:54,754 Speaker 1: need to all just admit that it is just the 593 00:24:54,754 --> 00:24:57,754 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian show now, not just because she's the most famous, 594 00:24:57,833 --> 00:25:00,073 Speaker 1: not just because she's the most popular, because she's the 595 00:25:00,073 --> 00:25:03,264 Speaker 1: only one willing to actually show her life on camera. 596 00:25:03,693 --> 00:25:07,354 Speaker 1: I think Kylie and Kendall Jenner need to be kicked 597 00:25:07,354 --> 00:25:09,394 Speaker 1: to the curb, to the point where last year I 598 00:25:09,394 --> 00:25:12,193 Speaker 1: wrote Kylie Jenner's resignation letter for her. I was like, 599 00:25:12,234 --> 00:25:13,823 Speaker 1: You don't want to be here. We can see it. 600 00:25:13,904 --> 00:25:16,193 Speaker 1: Just send this in and call it a day. And 601 00:25:16,193 --> 00:25:18,754 Speaker 1: then Kendall also doesn't want to be there. And it's 602 00:25:18,754 --> 00:25:21,913 Speaker 1: so clear that we only ever see them sitting on 603 00:25:21,913 --> 00:25:24,154 Speaker 1: a couch together, talking about how they're about to go 604 00:25:24,154 --> 00:25:25,984 Speaker 1: out somewhere, and afterwards they're like, we went out together 605 00:25:25,984 --> 00:25:27,474 Speaker 1: and it was really fun. And I was like, I 606 00:25:27,474 --> 00:25:29,394 Speaker 1: don't find that interesting. You're sisters. I don't find it 607 00:25:29,394 --> 00:25:31,183 Speaker 1: weird that you hung out together. 608 00:25:31,313 --> 00:25:31,634 Speaker 2: My heart 609 00:25:31,634 --> 00:25:32,134 Speaker 2: take is that it 610 00:25:32,178 --> 00:25:34,519 Speaker 2: Should have ended at Keeping Up with the Kardashians. Like, the, 611 00:25:34,529 --> 00:25:37,779 Speaker 2: the whole, the new reboot, I just, I haven't been 612 00:25:37,779 --> 00:25:41,168 Speaker 2: engaged in it. Like, I miss the old Keeping Up 613 00:25:41,168 --> 00:25:43,129 Speaker 2: with the Kardashians. I think they're over it. They don't 614 00:25:43,129 --> 00:25:47,208 Speaker 2: want to film anymore. Courtney has completely checked out. Like 615 00:25:47,208 --> 00:25:49,168 Speaker 2: her and Travis, I don't know if you noticed that 616 00:25:49,168 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: all of the imagery of her son is all blurred. 617 00:25:53,048 --> 00:25:53,969 Speaker 1: Did you wanna show because 618 00:25:53,969 --> 00:25:54,249 Speaker 2: she doesn't 619 00:25:54,249 --> 00:25:57,529 Speaker 2: want to show Rocky's face, which I completely respect. I 620 00:25:57,529 --> 00:26:00,568 Speaker 2: can 100% believe that celebrities should be more cautious about. 621 00:26:00,974 --> 00:26:04,533 Speaker 2: Showing their children on social media. But that's an interesting 622 00:26:04,533 --> 00:26:05,813 Speaker 2: move to me. At least 623 00:26:05,813 --> 00:26:07,963 Speaker 1: she's outrightly said, I don't want to do this anymore, 624 00:26:08,213 --> 00:26:10,374 Speaker 1: over the years. Like, that's fairly clear, and that's been 625 00:26:10,374 --> 00:26:12,333 Speaker 1: the catalyst for a lot of fights between her and Kim, 626 00:26:12,453 --> 00:26:14,894 Speaker 1: because Kim, I think, also very rightly says, you want 627 00:26:14,894 --> 00:26:16,293 Speaker 1: to take the money, but you don't want to do 628 00:26:16,293 --> 00:26:18,654 Speaker 1: the work and be on camera, which is fair enough. 629 00:26:18,693 --> 00:26:21,134 Speaker 1: And then you've got Chloe, who's quite, checked out. Even 630 00:26:21,134 --> 00:26:24,134 Speaker 1: Kris Jenner is involved in so many, there's been allegations 631 00:26:24,134 --> 00:26:26,573 Speaker 1: around her breakup and cheating and her having fights with people. 632 00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:30,646 Speaker 1: and mistreatment, all these crazy things. Gamble. Yeah. Oh, I'm sure, no, 633 00:26:30,686 --> 00:26:32,646 Speaker 1: he's still there. That man will never leave. He's on 634 00:26:32,646 --> 00:26:34,686 Speaker 1: such a golden ticket and like, good on them. It like, 635 00:26:34,725 --> 00:26:36,845 Speaker 1: whatever their setup is, it seems to be working, everyone 636 00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:39,446 Speaker 1: seems happy. I love the theories that he's some sort 637 00:26:39,446 --> 00:26:42,406 Speaker 1: of like a high end kind of fixer who like, no, 638 00:26:42,485 --> 00:26:44,686 Speaker 1: not even sport, like a, well, no, no, people do 639 00:26:44,686 --> 00:26:46,036 Speaker 1: think that as well, but the big thing is like, 640 00:26:46,046 --> 00:26:48,326 Speaker 1: he's like a high-end kind of fixer that Chris has 641 00:26:48,326 --> 00:26:50,646 Speaker 1: hooked up with, which I would love. Show me that. 642 00:26:50,765 --> 00:26:52,355 Speaker 1: I just think, what do you mean by fixer? 643 00:26:52,488 --> 00:26:54,878 Speaker 1: Like, as in like, he'll make problems go away, he'll 644 00:26:54,878 --> 00:26:57,397 Speaker 1: make people go away. He'll like, he's like pulling the 645 00:26:57,397 --> 00:27:00,517 Speaker 1: strings behind the scenes. Either that or he's just a 646 00:27:00,517 --> 00:27:02,348 Speaker 1: toy boy, and I'm fine with either one of those. 647 00:27:02,448 --> 00:27:04,878 Speaker 1: I'm like, just show me the story that's happening so 648 00:27:04,878 --> 00:27:07,167 Speaker 1: I'm across what's happening. But yeah, what we've seen is, 649 00:27:07,238 --> 00:27:08,797 Speaker 1: I know, I don't believe that it should have ended 650 00:27:08,797 --> 00:27:11,037 Speaker 1: after keeping up with the Kardashians, because then we would 651 00:27:11,037 --> 00:27:14,078 Speaker 1: have missed Courtney's wedding, we would have missed Births of Babies. 652 00:27:14,157 --> 00:27:15,718 Speaker 1: I care less about that. Actually, what I care about 653 00:27:15,718 --> 00:27:18,198 Speaker 1: is Kim hosting SNL, behind the scenes of the Met Gala. 654 00:27:18,469 --> 00:27:21,109 Speaker 1: Behind the scenes of like different campaigns, all these kind 655 00:27:21,109 --> 00:27:22,579 Speaker 1: of things like, 656 00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:23,270 Speaker 2: you see that on 657 00:27:23,270 --> 00:27:25,790 Speaker 2: their socials. Like, if they didn't have the show, but 658 00:27:25,790 --> 00:27:27,589 Speaker 2: if they didn't have the show, would they share it 659 00:27:27,589 --> 00:27:28,410 Speaker 2: on socials? 660 00:27:28,459 --> 00:27:30,229 Speaker 1: To a point that I don't want to see just 661 00:27:30,229 --> 00:27:34,709 Speaker 1: glamorous photos. I wanna see Kim Kardashian, like her stylist 662 00:27:34,709 --> 00:27:36,670 Speaker 1: getting locked on a plane in Rome and then coming 663 00:27:36,670 --> 00:27:38,910 Speaker 1: in two days later and then like kind of having 664 00:27:38,910 --> 00:27:41,699 Speaker 1: it out over who's gonna pick the dress for the finale. 665 00:27:41,870 --> 00:27:44,030 Speaker 1: I wanna see behind the scenes of SNL. 666 00:27:44,151 --> 00:27:46,021 Speaker 1: And like, I know that was season one, but like 667 00:27:46,021 --> 00:27:47,501 Speaker 1: that was just a, you know, a great moment of 668 00:27:47,501 --> 00:27:49,861 Speaker 1: the intensity of that. And then see Kanye rock up 669 00:27:49,861 --> 00:27:51,692 Speaker 1: at the last minute with a suitcase with a sex 670 00:27:51,692 --> 00:27:54,302 Speaker 1: tape in it. And I want to see, like, her 671 00:27:54,302 --> 00:27:56,702 Speaker 1: screaming at her driver because he wrecked her entrance to 672 00:27:56,702 --> 00:27:58,781 Speaker 1: the Met Gala and she was bleaching her hair in 673 00:27:58,781 --> 00:28:01,422 Speaker 1: the bathroom the night before. Like, you wouldn't capture that 674 00:28:01,422 --> 00:28:02,062 Speaker 1: on social. 675 00:28:02,182 --> 00:28:04,741 Speaker 2: I know, but it feels so scripted now. Like, I 676 00:28:04,741 --> 00:28:07,141 Speaker 2: know it's reality TV that is always scripted, but it 677 00:28:07,141 --> 00:28:09,861 Speaker 2: feels now that because they have so much control over it. 678 00:28:10,224 --> 00:28:12,963 Speaker 2: We're not getting the reality. We're getting what they think 679 00:28:12,963 --> 00:28:13,244 Speaker 2: is the 680 00:28:13,244 --> 00:28:13,524 Speaker 2: reality. 681 00:28:13,663 --> 00:28:15,844 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they had control over keeping up. So like, 682 00:28:15,854 --> 00:28:17,884 Speaker 1: to an extent there, they could choose what they showed 683 00:28:17,884 --> 00:28:19,764 Speaker 1: and what they didn't show. I just think they need 684 00:28:19,764 --> 00:28:21,244 Speaker 1: to just call it a day and just call it 685 00:28:21,244 --> 00:28:24,774 Speaker 1: the Kim Kardashian show because she is the only one. 686 00:28:25,043 --> 00:28:27,443 Speaker 1: She's the only one who's happy to show a lot 687 00:28:27,443 --> 00:28:30,274 Speaker 1: of the mess, a lot of the behind the scenes moments, 688 00:28:30,283 --> 00:28:34,124 Speaker 1: not everything, of course, but the others are so strongly 689 00:28:34,124 --> 00:28:35,004 Speaker 1: phoning it in. 690 00:28:35,089 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: That I understand like we're not gonna see Kylie Jenner's 691 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,109 Speaker 1: custody hearing with her, like, father of her children. And I, 692 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,359 Speaker 1: I even kind of get that she's not gonna show 693 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,359 Speaker 1: Timothy Chalamet, even though I think that's very unfair to 694 00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:49,359 Speaker 1: everyone else who had to show their boyfriend. But I'm like, 695 00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:52,750 Speaker 1: just show me something. I know that you're doing interesting things. 696 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to see you guys going for a 697 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,949 Speaker 1: horse ride, picking fruit. All of these crazy things. At 698 00:28:58,949 --> 00:28:59,910 Speaker 1: least with Kim Kardashian. 699 00:29:00,156 --> 00:29:02,875 Speaker 1: As she's like jumping on flights across the world, and 700 00:29:02,875 --> 00:29:05,796 Speaker 1: she's like hearing the news about what's happening with her businesses, 701 00:29:05,835 --> 00:29:07,995 Speaker 1: and you even see her interacting with Kanye when she's 702 00:29:07,995 --> 00:29:10,036 Speaker 1: like trying to keep the peace, and she's explaining why 703 00:29:10,036 --> 00:29:11,556 Speaker 1: she's letting him pick the kids up in a fire 704 00:29:11,556 --> 00:29:14,345 Speaker 1: truck and all this sort of stuff. At least you're seeing, like, 705 00:29:14,556 --> 00:29:16,036 Speaker 1: she's got the most on the line because she's the 706 00:29:16,036 --> 00:29:18,676 Speaker 1: most famous, but she's giving the most, and the rest 707 00:29:18,676 --> 00:29:20,916 Speaker 1: of them are phoning it in. I can't stand that 708 00:29:20,916 --> 00:29:23,076 Speaker 1: because middle sisters, we have it rough enough and we 709 00:29:23,076 --> 00:29:24,666 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to carry the rest of the family. 710 00:29:25,663 --> 00:29:28,624 Speaker 1: So the other thing that's interesting in there is that, 711 00:29:28,703 --> 00:29:30,823 Speaker 1: as I said, the Kardashians have been laying quite low, 712 00:29:30,864 --> 00:29:33,063 Speaker 1: and now they've let a lot of their drama come 713 00:29:33,063 --> 00:29:36,024 Speaker 1: out in this episode. One is that where Kim says 714 00:29:36,024 --> 00:29:38,053 Speaker 1: that someone close to her put a hit on her. 715 00:29:38,423 --> 00:29:40,594 Speaker 1: I got a call from investigators. 716 00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:41,494 Speaker 2: Someone 717 00:29:41,494 --> 00:29:43,254 Speaker 2: extremely close to me put a 718 00:29:43,254 --> 00:29:46,063 Speaker 2: hit out on my life. Everybody's kind of on edge. 719 00:29:46,104 --> 00:29:46,823 Speaker 2: I heard 720 00:29:46,823 --> 00:29:50,744 Speaker 2: footsteps walking into my room. I am terrified out of 721 00:29:50,744 --> 00:29:51,453 Speaker 2: my mind. 722 00:29:52,024 --> 00:29:54,894 Speaker 2: I'm happy it's over. That did hook me in. The 723 00:29:54,894 --> 00:29:56,734 Speaker 2: Kardashians has had like a hold on my life for 724 00:29:56,734 --> 00:29:59,014 Speaker 2: a long time, but so much so that my family 725 00:29:59,014 --> 00:30:01,453 Speaker 2: group chat, my cousin's group chat is called Keeping Up 726 00:30:01,453 --> 00:30:05,053 Speaker 2: with the cousins. So, like, the Kardashians has had a 727 00:30:05,053 --> 00:30:08,504 Speaker 2: large impact on my life, but that particular moment did 728 00:30:08,504 --> 00:30:11,453 Speaker 2: actually reel me back in. Who put a hit out 729 00:30:11,453 --> 00:30:13,933 Speaker 2: on her? And someone close to her. 730 00:30:14,004 --> 00:30:15,014 Speaker 2: That's kind of scary. 731 00:30:15,183 --> 00:30:16,894 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. I feel like this family, 732 00:30:17,134 --> 00:30:18,933 Speaker 1: they're involved in much more intense. 733 00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:22,770 Speaker 1: dangerous or possibly like earth shattering stuff than we are 734 00:30:22,770 --> 00:30:25,609 Speaker 1: ever across in this TV show when we're like watching 735 00:30:25,609 --> 00:30:28,319 Speaker 1: them sing a Christmas song or whatever. It did come 736 00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:30,530 Speaker 1: out in the last week, around the same time that 737 00:30:30,530 --> 00:30:34,209 Speaker 1: the trailer dropped, that Kim Kardashian and Kris Jenner have 738 00:30:34,209 --> 00:30:37,569 Speaker 1: both filed a defamation lawsuit against Ray J. If you 739 00:30:37,569 --> 00:30:42,390 Speaker 1: want to cross Ray J, he was infamous. Yeah, Ray. Yeah. 740 00:30:42,530 --> 00:30:44,930 Speaker 1: So him and Kim Kardashian were dating, they're the ones 741 00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:45,930 Speaker 1: that she made a sex tape. 742 00:30:46,015 --> 00:30:48,526 Speaker 1: With and the sex tape got made public. There's been 743 00:30:48,526 --> 00:30:51,206 Speaker 1: a lot of allegations over the years around who was 744 00:30:51,206 --> 00:30:53,235 Speaker 1: involved in the distribution, who knew it was being filmed, 745 00:30:53,245 --> 00:30:56,526 Speaker 1: and all these things. And Kim Kardashian has talked about 746 00:30:56,526 --> 00:30:58,965 Speaker 1: it many, many, many, many times. A lot of people 747 00:30:58,965 --> 00:31:01,206 Speaker 1: say it's what made her famous. It didn't. I'll just 748 00:31:01,206 --> 00:31:02,125 Speaker 1: go out on a limb and say that. A lot 749 00:31:02,125 --> 00:31:03,725 Speaker 1: of people have sex tapes released, not a lot of 750 00:31:03,725 --> 00:31:06,015 Speaker 1: people become the most famous woman in the world. We 751 00:31:06,015 --> 00:31:08,885 Speaker 1: have seen her sue people before for it. We even 752 00:31:08,885 --> 00:31:12,926 Speaker 1: saw a few seasons ago on the Kardashians, where Ray J. 753 00:31:13,011 --> 00:31:15,391 Speaker 1: It was, it, it came up that there was more 754 00:31:15,391 --> 00:31:17,161 Speaker 1: of a tape, that there was more to the story 755 00:31:17,161 --> 00:31:20,361 Speaker 1: to be released, and you see Kanye flying to meet 756 00:31:20,361 --> 00:31:22,082 Speaker 1: Ray J and get the rest of the tape and 757 00:31:22,082 --> 00:31:24,802 Speaker 1: physically bring it to Kim Kardashian, and she cried, which 758 00:31:24,802 --> 00:31:27,161 Speaker 1: is understandable. Ray J came out later and said, that 759 00:31:27,161 --> 00:31:29,111 Speaker 1: never happened. It's been a twisted tale. 760 00:31:29,281 --> 00:31:29,511 Speaker 2: Yeah. 761 00:31:29,761 --> 00:31:31,151 Speaker 2: Defamation lawsuit. 762 00:31:31,442 --> 00:31:35,501 Speaker 1: Yes. So Ray J, whose real name is Ray Norwood Jr. 763 00:31:35,842 --> 00:31:38,791 Speaker 1: he and Kim Kardashian dated, like in the late 1990s, 764 00:31:38,802 --> 00:31:39,881 Speaker 1: and yeah, it was the late. 765 00:31:40,007 --> 00:31:43,588 Speaker 1: Sex tape that came out soon after that. So, in 766 00:31:43,588 --> 00:31:47,078 Speaker 1: this legal filing that's been obtained by a number of outlets, 767 00:31:47,238 --> 00:31:50,598 Speaker 1: it says that Kim Kardashian and Kris Jenner are suing 768 00:31:50,598 --> 00:31:53,238 Speaker 1: Ray J because they say he has been waging a 769 00:31:53,238 --> 00:31:57,137 Speaker 1: war against them for decades. So recently, Ray J said, well, 770 00:31:57,198 --> 00:32:00,157 Speaker 1: on a live stream that he was working with prosecutors 771 00:32:00,157 --> 00:32:02,718 Speaker 1: on a case about two famous women on a reality 772 00:32:02,718 --> 00:32:05,478 Speaker 1: TV series and like inferred it was them. He made 773 00:32:05,478 --> 00:32:06,958 Speaker 1: claims that part of this federal 774 00:32:07,114 --> 00:32:11,033 Speaker 1: Criminal investigation that he was involved in, that the Kardashians 775 00:32:11,033 --> 00:32:14,953 Speaker 1: were basically potentially going to be charged with racketeering claims 776 00:32:14,953 --> 00:32:18,994 Speaker 1: and was making all of these other claims about their reputations, 777 00:32:19,033 --> 00:32:22,823 Speaker 1: which is what Kim and Kris are now suing him for, um, 778 00:32:23,024 --> 00:32:25,874 Speaker 1: saying that he has been exploiting them for over 20 779 00:32:25,874 --> 00:32:29,354 Speaker 1: years for a professional game. That is very interesting. Yeah. 780 00:32:29,433 --> 00:32:30,984 Speaker 1: And in the live stream, you can hear him say, 781 00:32:31,033 --> 00:32:33,713 Speaker 1: If you told me the Kardashians were being charged for racketeering, 782 00:32:33,754 --> 00:32:33,953 Speaker 1: I 783 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,430 Speaker 1: I would believe it. He was basically saying this big 784 00:32:36,430 --> 00:32:39,750 Speaker 1: rumor saying that Chris and Kim were going to be 785 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:42,309 Speaker 1: under investigation for these crimes. OK, 786 00:32:42,510 --> 00:32:43,089 Speaker 2: if P Diddy 787 00:32:43,089 --> 00:32:45,099 Speaker 2: can't get, get found guilty for he 788 00:32:45,099 --> 00:32:45,540 Speaker 2: brings up, 789 00:32:45,949 --> 00:32:48,569 Speaker 1: he says, it's worse than Diddy in his state when 790 00:32:48,569 --> 00:32:51,109 Speaker 1: he's talking about them, he goes, he's like, Believe me, 791 00:32:51,229 --> 00:32:54,510 Speaker 1: this is worse than Diddy. All right, mate, settle down. 792 00:32:54,670 --> 00:32:57,780 Speaker 1: And so basically they've just like, now Kim Kardashian and 793 00:32:57,780 --> 00:32:59,819 Speaker 1: Kris Jenner have basically been like, now we've had enough. 794 00:32:59,870 --> 00:33:00,910 Speaker 1: You've been using our name. 795 00:33:00,995 --> 00:33:03,066 Speaker 1: For over 20 years, and this is a pretty serious 796 00:33:03,066 --> 00:33:05,345 Speaker 1: allegation that you've put out to thousands of people, so 797 00:33:05,345 --> 00:33:06,076 Speaker 1: they're suing him. 798 00:33:06,146 --> 00:33:08,706 Speaker 2: I don't often agree with defamation cases because I think 799 00:33:08,706 --> 00:33:11,906 Speaker 2: they're quite frivolous, but this, I can stand behind, because 800 00:33:11,906 --> 00:33:15,985 Speaker 2: that is, that's a really, really offensive and huge claim. Yeah, 801 00:33:16,026 --> 00:33:17,666 Speaker 1: yeah, I think it's something Kim Kardashian has been saying 802 00:33:17,666 --> 00:33:19,946 Speaker 1: for years is that there's always been these allegations that 803 00:33:19,946 --> 00:33:22,625 Speaker 1: she purposely filmed the tape, that she had Ray J 804 00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:25,026 Speaker 1: film it a certain way, and that she and Kris 805 00:33:25,026 --> 00:33:27,906 Speaker 1: orchestrated its release and they were pocketing money from. 806 00:33:27,991 --> 00:33:30,942 Speaker 1: Different people, and they were like, using it to get famous, 807 00:33:30,981 --> 00:33:33,111 Speaker 1: but also using it for different kind of claims. There's 808 00:33:33,111 --> 00:33:36,172 Speaker 1: all these like wild allegations which have been disputed over 809 00:33:36,172 --> 00:33:38,541 Speaker 1: the years. So I think, I think that probably just 810 00:33:38,541 --> 00:33:40,741 Speaker 1: was the last straw, that this is like over 20 811 00:33:40,741 --> 00:33:43,291 Speaker 1: years later. They saw that pop up, they saw the 812 00:33:43,291 --> 00:33:45,332 Speaker 1: rumors start to go again. They just thought, we're taking 813 00:33:45,332 --> 00:33:45,861 Speaker 1: you to court. 814 00:33:46,062 --> 00:33:48,381 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually agree with that one. It should be 815 00:33:48,381 --> 00:33:51,172 Speaker 2: an interesting season. I might actually tune in this time. 816 00:33:51,342 --> 00:33:53,401 Speaker 2: The Kardashians season 7 is gonna be on Disney Plus, 817 00:33:53,501 --> 00:33:54,812 Speaker 2: October 23rd. Great day. 818 00:33:55,333 --> 00:33:57,384 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the spill today, guys. 819 00:33:57,614 --> 00:34:00,894 Speaker 2: Don't forget to follow us on TikTok and Instagram. We've 820 00:34:00,894 --> 00:34:03,533 Speaker 2: got lots of fun stuff on there for you. We 821 00:34:03,533 --> 00:34:06,573 Speaker 2: will see you back here tomorrow morning at 8:00 a.m. 822 00:34:06,573 --> 00:34:09,033 Speaker 2: for morning tea, and then back in your podcast feed 823 00:34:09,033 --> 00:34:12,134 Speaker 2: at 3 p.m. for the spill. The spill is produced 824 00:34:12,134 --> 00:34:16,283 Speaker 2: by Manisha Iswaren with sound production by Scott Stronk. Bye. 825 00:34:16,293 --> 00:34:16,904 Speaker 1: Bye. 826 00:34:21,603 --> 00:34:21,613 Speaker 1: Yeah.