WEBVTT - New Financial Year, New Wardrobe Guide

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<v Speaker 3>Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. You live for fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome for Nothing to Wear, the podcast that

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<v Speaker 2>solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Lee Camberllan.

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<v Speaker 2>Every week I chat to an expert who helps us

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<v Speaker 2>work out how to get more out of the clothes

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<v Speaker 2>you already own and tells us what is and isn't

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<v Speaker 2>worth adding to our wardrobes. Now, before I get started,

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<v Speaker 2>stick around to the very end, because there's an extra

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<v Speaker 2>segment on this episode, The Wonder for Me of Freedman

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't just say that because she's my boss,

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<v Speaker 2>is coming to sit down with me and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about pre Loved. It's the new financial year.

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<v Speaker 2>We might have overspent, we might want to just save

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<v Speaker 2>some money, or we might just want some unique outfits

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<v Speaker 2>or to clear out our wardrobes. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about pre Loved buying and selling to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Where to look if it's overwhelming. We're going to cover

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<v Speaker 2>it all. But first, I've got Kim Crowley joining me.

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<v Speaker 2>She's been on the show a couple of times before,

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<v Speaker 2>and she is a virgo. I had to ask her

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<v Speaker 2>because she's so clever and strategic when it comes to shopping,

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<v Speaker 2>getting dressed and saving money. So it's a new financial year.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have blown the budget, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a new year.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to talk about saving money, doing a

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<v Speaker 2>wardrobe audit, and then her very interesting four by four

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<v Speaker 2>methods got nothing to do with cars, So let's jump

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<v Speaker 2>into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim, welcome back. I'm so excited. This is your third time?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a fourth? Yes, it's great that I'm using

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<v Speaker 3>count I love it exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That means we love you.

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<v Speaker 2>The returning guests, well, I've got various questions, but one

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<v Speaker 2>that I want to ask you is do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a fashion security blanket? And if so, what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great question. My trench coat is a really

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<v Speaker 3>well loved piece. Actually put it from ced A. Just

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<v Speaker 3>go it to toffee color cotton. I get compliments on

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<v Speaker 3>it every time.

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<v Speaker 1>I wear You say toffee, Why I say toffee? Like

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<v Speaker 1>not ten not brown?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I love food as well, so I can associate

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<v Speaker 3>any colors with food. I love it even more. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's this beautiful toffee color. It's really rich color and

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<v Speaker 3>it goes with everything. I have to actually stop myself

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<v Speaker 3>wearing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can wear your other things exactly because.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to wear more of my clothes.

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<v Speaker 4>It's security blank.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is a bit security blank it, especially at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment it's chilly and you can wrap yourself up

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<v Speaker 3>because that cotton actually does help the wind not get

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<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of it's not waterproof or wind proof,

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<v Speaker 1>but it really does that kind much better. Tighten fine fiber, yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>really tightly woven, so it's actually a bit protective. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then light waiting it where.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just living in it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's winter, but god, I love it even

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<v Speaker 3>for the summer. I love like waiting it where too.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Kim, you've been in the industry for over twenty years,

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<v Speaker 2>which is bizarre. You must have been like eleven when

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<v Speaker 2>you start. Of course you worked as a designer, so

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<v Speaker 2>anyone that's listened to the show before will know that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then for brands like H and M. A source yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say age and m and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that I'm as.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, right at the beginning when A soos was

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<v Speaker 3>literally much more about Paris Hilton. Yes, yeah, just literally

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<v Speaker 3>replicate like I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Seen screen, yeah, magazine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's crazy thinking about then and how much it's evolved.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you also work with real people, so well,

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<v Speaker 1>you have all shapes and sizes absolutely, So what are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the common things women that you've worked with

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<v Speaker 1>over the decades and all walks of live share when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to clothes and style.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, so many things that we all share. It's funny,

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<v Speaker 3>there's this kind of like, so many things that we

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<v Speaker 3>all share, and then when we get deeper, we're very

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<v Speaker 3>different in lots of different ways, but there is a big,

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<v Speaker 3>big area that we all share. A lot of it

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<v Speaker 3>is not knowing how to shop, so being able to

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<v Speaker 3>understand how to you know, shop strategically, not emotionally. But

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<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest biggest things then, aren't you and

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<v Speaker 3>it is you know, we have to change the way

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<v Speaker 3>that we've been behaving for decades, and that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to plant seeds for a lot of my clients

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<v Speaker 3>but one of the biggest, biggest things is the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to buy stuff but not put the clothes into outfits.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one of the biggest things that I deal with

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. So lots of people can buy lots

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh god, I'm fabulous that it shopping wrong. Then

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you can't get dressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly because you haven't got the outfit. So the whole

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to wear concept is, you know, you look at

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<v Speaker 3>your wardrobe and it's stacked, and it's all packed, but

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<v Speaker 3>we've got nothing to wear is often because we haven't

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<v Speaker 3>found the outfit yet. And that's so much of what

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<v Speaker 3>brings me do. It really does light me up when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in wardrobes. In fact, I had two of them yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a female client and male client and they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got loads of stuff, but I can't find the outfits.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, oh, have you done that? Have you

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<v Speaker 3>done that?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because a lot of us will get say a dress,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we'll put it with the black blades and

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<v Speaker 3>black shoe and it's like, I've done that. Look, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really bored of it, I know. And then I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>how have you put it? With this blazer. They work perfect. Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>because a lot of the time what we do when

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<v Speaker 3>we purchase we put things in boxes in our heads.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that lighter blazer is a wedding blazer and

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<v Speaker 3>this dress is a sexy date night dress. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that the two can coexist or pair together,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I want to be able to go in

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<v Speaker 3>and go. Of course it does, because I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>the barriers. I don't see like how you think that

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<v Speaker 3>your wardrobe fresh eye. I'm like, ah, this goes with this,

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<v Speaker 3>This goes with this, this goes with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you said it's how to shop, so is how

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<v Speaker 2>do we fix that problem at the shopping stage so

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't happen in the wardrobe stage.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a lot of it is fixed by my

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<v Speaker 3>four by four formula.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're going to talk about that later.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, cool, Yes, I want to talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>later because I'm terrible at maths and you love numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're going to teach me something. It's a new

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<v Speaker 2>financial year, which I love. The first of julight, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the start of the new financial year. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I've had quite.

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<v Speaker 1>A crappy start to the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Not fashion related, but I'm just gonna I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what happier year, fresh energy, fresh, vibe, fresh everything, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, of course it's the financial year, so

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<v Speaker 2>we've all got money on our minds. What's the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>money mistake you see people making when it comes to fashion?

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<v Speaker 1>So many well we talk about how we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>fix them.

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<v Speaker 3>So three main ones. First one is buying on sale,

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<v Speaker 3>so many can't say, oh, I bought this, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>never worn it. Bought this, but it's you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't worn it, and it's all got tickets, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>all got cel tickets being Red Mark, you know, stamps

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<v Speaker 3>all over them.

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<v Speaker 1>In all the rest of it sale extra discount y, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Which sounds really enticing, but is not how I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to shop. You know, if you really love that

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<v Speaker 3>product and you've watched it go down.

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<v Speaker 1>Down, you would have got it full price.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, jump on it. But nothing is a bargain if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't wear it. And you know, having like three

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<v Speaker 3>or four pieces that oh I only cost thirty bucks

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<v Speaker 3>or fifteen or forty or whatever your budget, it all

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<v Speaker 3>adds up, but you never wear it, so it takes

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<v Speaker 3>up space, takes up brain space, makes us feel guilty,

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<v Speaker 3>takes up guilt exactly. And I don't want people to

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<v Speaker 3>feel good. I want to actually have less that they

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<v Speaker 3>wear more. So the whole buying on sale thing is

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<v Speaker 3>not I it's I know it's hard. Sometimes we look

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<v Speaker 3>around storm like, oh my god, I really tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't shop the sales.

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<v Speaker 3>I only shop it if I really love it.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe you were already across. Yeah, if you love

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<v Speaker 2>that brand and you check out their sale, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>just find a random website that s having a great

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<v Speaker 2>sale with random stuff you've never seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, No, So to Cuba, I've got beautiful pleated cream nitpants.

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking for something like that. I happened to

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<v Speaker 3>be shopping for myself, which is quite rare, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>not on sale, and I was like, oh, I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 3>going to buy them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay because there, Yes, that star was already something you

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<v Speaker 2>were seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. The other thing, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I need more.

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<v Speaker 3>Here is the buying three for two. You know, those

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<v Speaker 3>whole spend and.

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<v Speaker 1>Save only good for andy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just capitalism, yes, exactly. Yeah, it's just capitalism. They're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to make you buy more. So we often think

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<v Speaker 3>shopping is a numbers game, or if I buy three,

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to make me happy, then if I had two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Also that I fall into this chap all the

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<v Speaker 2>time of free shipping, I'm like, I've got to find

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<v Speaker 2>something else free, but I don't really.

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<v Speaker 1>Need the other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I should have just paid the ten dollars, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>rather than trying to round up to forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So it is really keeping your eye on how desirable

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<v Speaker 3>the item is that you want and buying one and

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<v Speaker 3>buying right, rather than buying plenty and buying so.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the mistakes you see is people buy more

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<v Speaker 1>than they need, more than they need. Yeah, Kim, stop

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<v Speaker 1>following me everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the third thing is thinking we need five

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<v Speaker 3>new tops when really we need one new top that

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<v Speaker 3>we can wear five ways. Because you know, I could

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<v Speaker 3>talk about shopping being a numbers game. The number I

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<v Speaker 3>want you to care about is how many ways you

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<v Speaker 3>can wear something? Yeah, yes, exactly. Rather than having all

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<v Speaker 3>those five new items in your wardrobe, you're probably only

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<v Speaker 3>gonna wear two. If you've got one that's really versatile,

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<v Speaker 3>it flatters, you feel really good in it, layers under things,

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<v Speaker 3>you can marry on its own. You don't need to exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You can wear it five ways, So you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>want people to start pivoting the numbers game. The way

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<v Speaker 3>that we think shopping is about buying lots of stuff

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<v Speaker 3>because hopefull one of it will make us feel good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just capitalism.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it feels like we will feel better when

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<v Speaker 2>we've got options, but then we oftentimes feel overwhelmed and

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<v Speaker 2>it makes it harder exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's actually something I was talking about the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>My clients feel really underwhelmed with their wardrobe, overwhelmed by

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<v Speaker 3>the shops. Yeah, and it's like I feel, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>when we feel start.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a good way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just don't know what I do. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly because we haven't found the outfit yet that exists

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<v Speaker 3>in our wardrobe. Because this is the thing, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>A desire because oftentimes I'm just shopping because I'm bored

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<v Speaker 2>or said or getting my period or I'm rewarding my.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, but that's when you need to buy lipstick

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that. Yeah, yes, facial something else will

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<v Speaker 3>that will have that return on investment, because that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I want people to think about when they're purchasing. What's

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<v Speaker 3>my return on investment? Every textile you bring into your house,

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<v Speaker 3>think about the return and investment that cost per weear?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, and the financially, it has just happened. We've

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<v Speaker 2>ordered it all of our maybe the tax department has

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<v Speaker 2>ordered it us. So we've done our finances. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>order our wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we do?

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<v Speaker 2>We go through our wardrobe and we work out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what we already do have, and we work out gaps.

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<v Speaker 2>And for me, this is something I really need to

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<v Speaker 2>do because I've spoken to you before. I love to

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<v Speaker 2>buy duplicates because I love a genre shirt and I

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<v Speaker 2>accidentally buy another one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need another one. So we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>an audit of our wardrobe and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>decide what to do with those things later. But what's

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<v Speaker 1>our process when doing that audit? I love saying audit, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's.

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<v Speaker 3>The end fin that sounds very freshal So what we

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<v Speaker 3>want to do. So basically, when we're looking at our

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<v Speaker 3>wardrobe and we're deciding what we're wearing, a really good

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<v Speaker 3>way to do it is to actually look at the

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<v Speaker 3>things that you're wearing the most, So they're the things

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<v Speaker 3>that you're washing the most, right, and you bring them out.

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<v Speaker 3>Good way to do it, yeah, because you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're yeh, yeah, you know you love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so we're and also you know what part

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<v Speaker 3>of the reason I do insta, as I've talked before,

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<v Speaker 3>is because I want to just be able to look

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<v Speaker 3>back at really what I'm wearing. Sometimes what you think

0:11:10.305 --> 0:11:13.185
<v Speaker 3>you're wearing, what you really wear a slightly different, but

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<v Speaker 3>you put them all out in your bed and then

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<v Speaker 3>what you do because when we put things in our

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<v Speaker 3>wardrobe and they're all side hanging, it's kind of hard.

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<v Speaker 3>We think we know what's in there, and we think

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<v Speaker 3>we know what it looks like. But actually I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to bring them out because out of those pieces

0:11:26.665 --> 0:11:30.705
<v Speaker 3>that you're wearing, you're probably only wearing like very formulaic outfits.

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<v Speaker 3>So you might wear one top with one bottom, this

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<v Speaker 3>top with this bottom, this top with this bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's in your head.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly because we know the outfit is familiar, and we

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<v Speaker 3>go back to what we know. You know, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of photographic memory. I want you to wear

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<v Speaker 3>that top with that bottom. So I want you to

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<v Speaker 3>wear like outfit top number.

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<v Speaker 1>Three, wear them at least just try it on and.

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<v Speaker 3>See how the experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you doing dress up absolutely the audit absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>kind of order because that text apartment, and that's my

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<v Speaker 2>kind of order.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes the text department a little bit more interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I find fascinating, and what I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 3>at the time, is that we buy things and put

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<v Speaker 3>them in our wardrobes, right, and we expect our wardrobes

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<v Speaker 3>to work really hard for us and to give all

0:12:08.225 --> 0:12:10.545
<v Speaker 3>this stuff back to us. As you know, I've bought this,

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<v Speaker 3>I've spent two hundred dollars on the top. Now it's

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<v Speaker 3>time to you know, to stop reaping the fit exactly

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<v Speaker 3>and get some return on investment. But we don't actually

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<v Speaker 3>then invest the time to play with that garment. We

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<v Speaker 3>buy it, we wear it one way, and we're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on the next thing. It's so true, and I

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<v Speaker 3>want you to go deeper on that garment because there's

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<v Speaker 3>so much potential in your wardrobe. There really is, but

0:12:31.225 --> 0:12:33.785
<v Speaker 3>we need to give our wardrobe time to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to release that potential. It's not going to jump out

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<v Speaker 3>and bite you on the bum. You have to go.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not necessary hard work, it's playful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally take it down exactly, and you have to take

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<v Speaker 3>down the barriers that you've put in. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>go back to that jacket that it's like colored. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's my wedding one, and then this is my work

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<v Speaker 3>can and whatnot, and then we start combining them.

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<v Speaker 2>Like these are a body yellow and like a few

0:12:55.665 --> 0:12:57.305
<v Speaker 2>people have said to me to say like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't you cold, And I'm like, well no, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a summary.

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<v Speaker 1>Base yes, and then yes, yeah yeah, yah, way, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like yellow exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you've put your jacket over it exactly. But

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<v Speaker 3>how do you not just spend a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>time doing that. You would have put that top underneath

0:13:12.945 --> 0:13:16.305
<v Speaker 3>and that pan in your summer only wardrobe, and we

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<v Speaker 3>put barriers up, and I want to knock all those

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<v Speaker 3>barriers down. And by pulling things out on your bed

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of time, the outfits make themselves. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>if you've got a style, which we all have, we

0:13:25.385 --> 0:13:27.625
<v Speaker 3>have all got personal style, and we've all got a

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<v Speaker 3>type that we like and a kind of look. So

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<v Speaker 3>once we put out our favorite pieces on our bed,

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that are on rotation, there's naturally going to

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<v Speaker 3>be some common denominators that make them go together.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe not immediately logical outfits that. Yes, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, yes, work comes in.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a really good point. We always want to take

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<v Speaker 3>away the logic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, like the wrong shoe theory, but for your

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<v Speaker 2>fact exactly all right, So we've done the audit. Our

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<v Speaker 2>happy colths are having a party on the bed. Then

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<v Speaker 2>there's the clothes who have had a lovely life maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're not going to make the party. You're not invited. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we doing with them?

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<v Speaker 3>So we are either because basically we don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>ever throw clothes away. It's either you try and sell it,

0:14:17.865 --> 0:14:19.665
<v Speaker 3>and this is in the right kind of order, so

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<v Speaker 3>you try and sell it and make some money to

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<v Speaker 3>recycle that money into your Extperkay.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask, can I break them down there? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got things that I are in my cell

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<v Speaker 2>pie or that could be a coach bag or an

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<v Speaker 2>oriiton bag or could be god, I've even got some

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<v Speaker 2>fancy of things.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I've got your maybe dish or it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I've got such a mix of things. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where to sell.

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<v Speaker 2>What or like what's valuable? Yeah, because it's so personal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so sometime and that's it. In you only need

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<v Speaker 3>one buyer. It's just getting to them, is it. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's either going to places like you know, pre loved

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<v Speaker 3>and consignment and all those care.

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<v Speaker 1>Places like your designer Like I've got one designer bag.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel so guilty about buying, but I never use it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd like to read.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, and as long as you learn a few lessons,

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<v Speaker 3>but why you don't wear it and use it, then

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<v Speaker 3>you've learned the lesson from it and you can set

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<v Speaker 3>it free.

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<v Speaker 1>And sing with exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's either consignment or might be on you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the specific Facebook groups that you can sell it. There's

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<v Speaker 3>lots of different ways to to sell it. You can

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<v Speaker 3>just sell it on marketplace, you know, best collector all different.

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<v Speaker 1>Places, eBay, depop exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly there are there are and it might just be

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<v Speaker 3>having a little bit of research to the type of

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<v Speaker 3>brands that seem to sell quite well and that they've

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<v Speaker 3>got you know, maybe not many listed on that actually

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<v Speaker 3>might go quicker for example, that's kind of quite good

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<v Speaker 3>to look at. If you can't sell it and make money,

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<v Speaker 3>then give it to a friend, friend gift, or you

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<v Speaker 3>swap it with a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, I've had some friends starting

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<v Speaker 1>to do little swaps and a little swap parties.

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<v Speaker 3>Or great because it gives you life to that's all

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<v Speaker 3>we want to do, because it takes such a takes

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<v Speaker 3>such a lot of work when I've been designing to

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<v Speaker 3>to get a textile into the world and make it beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>So to me, I look, I think of the long

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<v Speaker 3>life cycle of that garment, not just the wearing part

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<v Speaker 3>for the person one. I'm like, what you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>do after the next thing is you if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>give it to a friend or swap it, then you

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<v Speaker 3>give it to charity, donating so many in a fashion

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<v Speaker 3>forward dress for success. There's so many great ones out

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<v Speaker 3>there that really do amazing things to women.

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<v Speaker 1>For They're here in Bondai, but there are Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, last week actually oh did you then?

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<v Speaker 4>Love?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you what I got? But it's all for charity.

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<v Speaker 1>It helps children.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I needed to drop off to the match.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go to day and I'll buy your things and

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<v Speaker 2>give them money to charity, but they really give vinis your.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly and you can't take dirty things to them. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to accept it. So all of that goes

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<v Speaker 3>to rags. Anything it's really dirty, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think kids, daycare clothes and like stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all that. Wash your car with it, clean the house,

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<v Speaker 3>clean kitchen, you know, use that wash it, chuck it

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<v Speaker 3>in with a wash and then and then keep using it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they're textiles, they would just want to be reused

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<v Speaker 3>and used. So if we think.

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<v Speaker 1>About it, really trying to avoid landfillm absolutely because.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone else can get joy from it, and if they can't,

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<v Speaker 3>it goes to rags.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I love that. All right, I've kept everyone waiting

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<v Speaker 2>long enough. We need to talk about you. Four by four.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a big truck that would fit my

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<v Speaker 1>wardrobe dinner? Is that what it is? What's the four

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<v Speaker 1>x four theory methods?

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<v Speaker 3>The four by four is basically right. So I have

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<v Speaker 3>obviously lots of clients that will buy four new pieces

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, cool, have you you know go around

0:17:23.385 --> 0:17:23.905
<v Speaker 3>their house when.

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<v Speaker 1>Need say that, like in the one like season day.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally depends on the clients. Some people might buy four

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<v Speaker 3>pieces in a month, okay, some people might buy four

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<v Speaker 3>over the season. Totally depends on shopping habits, budget, all

0:17:36.065 --> 0:17:38.105
<v Speaker 3>those things they've got, four they've got. If they've got

0:17:38.145 --> 0:17:40.865
<v Speaker 3>four recent things, a lot of time, I'm like, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 3>because so have you worn them together? Like oh no,

0:17:43.665 --> 0:17:45.145
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, well have you tried one? Oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>I just bought them randomly separately, and I can never

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<v Speaker 3>like outfitting them. So my whole thing is, if ever

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<v Speaker 3>you buy four pieces to say, two tops, two bottoms,

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to not just create one outfit from

0:17:55.865 --> 0:17:59.345
<v Speaker 3>that or two outfits. So each time goes for the bottom,

0:17:59.785 --> 0:18:02.265
<v Speaker 3>we need to cross pollinate it. So for every four

0:18:02.505 --> 0:18:05.305
<v Speaker 3>items we can wear, four outfits we can create.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the process we go through before we purchase.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time of the purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to like go through this four by four

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<v Speaker 2>before it's allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>To be out.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely, it's very hard. It's not okay, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>I've had my eye on this bomber. Let's pretend how

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<v Speaker 2>do I fall by four it in my head?

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<v Speaker 3>So you make sure that the pant you want to

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<v Speaker 3>buy next, yeah, is going.

0:18:25.865 --> 0:18:28.545
<v Speaker 1>To go with it, or the skirt or the dress. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it can be a dress and bought the bomber.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I see a skirt and I'm like, hang on,

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<v Speaker 2>bombers new will skirt get along with bomber exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>And are they going to be friends?

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<v Speaker 2>That's so clever because even if it's beyond the four,

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<v Speaker 2>you should think of your recent purchases and will at work,

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<v Speaker 2>will at work, will at.

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<v Speaker 3>Work exactly, because I want every four pieces you buy,

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<v Speaker 3>say's two tops and two bottoms to cross pollin eate. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so you've got the four outfits going across, and then

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<v Speaker 3>what happens is you do those outfits and then you

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<v Speaker 3>look at them back with what you've bought last year, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And it kind of inspires the process.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely because you're always thinking about the outfit, not the item.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the thing. This, while I go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the shopping, isn't numbers game. It's the numbers game,

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<v Speaker 3>is also about the outfits you're creating, not the items

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<v Speaker 3>you're purchasing. Because again, the whole numbers game, the capitalism

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<v Speaker 3>part of you know, I'm going to go and buy

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<v Speaker 3>ten items and I know that will make me happy.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't It doesn't so really thinking about the outcome

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<v Speaker 3>of the outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, so said skirt, I've just said, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes with barmer, and it goes with that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I go, oh that top, So then I go

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<v Speaker 1>oh that top, Yes, that goes with skirt, which also

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<v Speaker 1>goes with bomber, and then it's kind of exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And from that one top you can still create four outfits.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've always got to think about, you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>otherwise we're just buying items on their own in silo

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<v Speaker 3>and we're never thinking really about the outfit. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the outfit? I can work with a gene or

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<v Speaker 3>a black pant. That's not enough. So for every four items,

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<v Speaker 3>we need four outfits. And the compound interest it's not

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<v Speaker 3>it's not. I mean, it does take a bit of thought,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what I want people to do. I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to be considered and intentional about what they're purchasing.

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<v Speaker 3>But the great thing is the compound interest means that

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<v Speaker 3>once you then do those four you bought four items,

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<v Speaker 3>you created four outfits. Okay, then when you're buying another

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<v Speaker 3>four later in the season next year, the compound interest

0:20:11.705 --> 0:20:14.145
<v Speaker 3>means that you might double the amount you're buying, but

0:20:14.225 --> 0:20:18.665
<v Speaker 3>you've tripled the amount of outfits because they're like breeding exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So the compound interest effect means that you've actually got

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<v Speaker 3>way way more outfits from way less clothes. And fundamentally,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I delibut.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>How wordre.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay on to bougie and budget. I mean, we've probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Should have done two budgets because we're talking about saving

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<v Speaker 2>money and getting more out of your clothes. However, I've

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<v Speaker 2>bought a bougie. Let's start with your budget though, what's

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<v Speaker 2>your budget?

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<v Speaker 3>And why my budget is the assembly label coat. It's

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<v Speaker 3>Cesadi coat. It's currently on sale from two eighty to

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<v Speaker 3>about one nine five am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not allowed to shop the sales cam. I'm joking.

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<v Speaker 3>That is such a classic, so classic, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>one that belted lots of colors. So some colors are

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<v Speaker 3>on sale, some aren't. And it's one hundred percent wall

0:21:15.185 --> 0:21:16.185
<v Speaker 3>and that's a really good.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the best thing to buy on sales. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a staple quality.

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<v Speaker 3>That you're going to wear for saily.

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<v Speaker 2>Discounted, but it's saving you a bit of money on

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<v Speaker 2>something you will like flog to death and I'm absolutely approved. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>my budget is a Target bag. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen. They've been out for a little bit now.

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<v Speaker 2>The Target swayed one hundred collection of bags. So if

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<v Speaker 2>I first got some loafers at the start of winter,

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<v Speaker 2>real Sway, I got the black ones. They're like wearing slippers.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also a tan and then the bag.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not getting it because it's a new financial u

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to save money and I actually need

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<v Speaker 1>to sell some of my bags.

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<v Speaker 3>But before you replace them.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, If I was in the market for a bag

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<v Speaker 2>and it could go back with my fourth fife four,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be getting. There's a few of them. Actually

0:21:58.945 --> 0:22:00.505
<v Speaker 2>they've got like a big slapsy bo hoo. But this

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<v Speaker 2>one's the premium Swayed leather bucket tote bag in khaki. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's eighty dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really good and I love how that's quite structured

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<v Speaker 3>but also a bit slouchy. It's like lots of people's style.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even work for them, but I'm just so impressed,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they do the bow hoy slouchy shoulder.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh is that in this way too? It's that little

0:22:18.505 --> 0:22:21.905
<v Speaker 3>gold class. Oh that's impressive. That's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Not for me because I'm but other people.

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<v Speaker 3>Other people in the market, just saying it would go

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<v Speaker 3>really nice with your out.

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<v Speaker 1>You've gone today, all right, what else if you got

0:22:33.385 --> 0:22:34.745
<v Speaker 1>for me? What's your boogie?

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<v Speaker 3>My bougie is Comla Mark because they do really really

0:22:37.785 --> 0:22:42.625
<v Speaker 3>good outwear. Trenches and jackets and coats are really they're unparallel. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so they're Donato coats one one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. Oh so it's a worn Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>called like a tidy coat.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's very similar to the assembly label. And the

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<v Speaker 3>reason I like them a lot is because they're not

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<v Speaker 3>too dressing gown ish.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I had a short collar. They've got dressing gown

0:23:00.025 --> 0:23:03.305
<v Speaker 3>fabric thingy. That's yeah sometimes and obviously you can put

0:23:03.305 --> 0:23:05.545
<v Speaker 3>a nice structured belt on. It looks really cool if

0:23:05.545 --> 0:23:08.105
<v Speaker 3>you're going, if you're dressing it up, etcetera. Purposing. But

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<v Speaker 3>the Donato coat is augeous.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's because we're such good people. We've got an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing tax return and we're treating ourselves.

0:23:17.785 --> 0:23:19.745
<v Speaker 3>And again that will be really timeless, but it's interesting

0:23:19.745 --> 0:23:21.625
<v Speaker 3>because that's not one hundred percent well it's woolen poly

0:23:22.905 --> 0:23:23.705
<v Speaker 3>which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it depends because some of my natural synthetic blends.

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<v Speaker 1>We're the best.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, good, I'm glad you're bougie. Was bougie because

0:23:29.705 --> 0:23:33.465
<v Speaker 2>my bougi is quite bousy. Okay, okay, so we're being.

0:23:33.345 --> 0:23:36.105
<v Speaker 1>A good girl. This isn't me. But someone needs to

0:23:36.425 --> 0:23:39.305
<v Speaker 1>invest because we're talking about saving money and shopping on

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<v Speaker 1>a budget, but also we're talking about purchasing things will watable.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing investment absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I could not love Oriton anymore. In the

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<v Speaker 2>last few years, they have just had the biggest go up.

0:23:51.785 --> 0:23:54.145
<v Speaker 2>This is already sold out but coming back. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to tell people about it so it's on

0:23:55.665 --> 0:24:00.945
<v Speaker 2>their radar. It is the Mica workmanship small bowler like

0:24:00.945 --> 0:24:03.465
<v Speaker 2>it's a bowler bag, which means like, but this is

0:24:03.505 --> 0:24:05.985
<v Speaker 2>the small the mini. The mini is quite small. The

0:24:06.065 --> 0:24:10.705
<v Speaker 2>bowler is like, like, that's that's her everyday handbag. Yes,

0:24:10.785 --> 0:24:12.705
<v Speaker 2>you could fit your laptop. I would probably have a

0:24:12.705 --> 0:24:14.665
<v Speaker 2>separate bag from my laptop. But this is my everything

0:24:14.785 --> 0:24:18.985
<v Speaker 2>as in like glasses, you know, bottle Yes, yeah, zip

0:24:19.065 --> 0:24:21.945
<v Speaker 2>I love something the fully zip shut because I throw

0:24:21.985 --> 0:24:22.385
<v Speaker 2>it in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything falls out. I love the black.

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<v Speaker 2>It's eight hundred and ninety nine dollars and already sold out.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does that tell you? Yeah, And like we

0:24:29.505 --> 0:24:31.305
<v Speaker 2>were talking before we started recording, I've got a green

0:24:31.345 --> 0:24:33.745
<v Speaker 2>Oriton bag. I bought from the Origin outlet online. If

0:24:33.745 --> 0:24:36.225
<v Speaker 2>you're not across the Oriton outlet online, where have you

0:24:36.265 --> 0:24:38.545
<v Speaker 2>been all your life? It's online maybe five or six

0:24:38.585 --> 0:24:38.985
<v Speaker 2>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And I use it a lot, Yeah, a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's it. You want to think about the frequency?

0:24:42.945 --> 0:24:44.785
<v Speaker 3>Am I going to wear this daily? Week yere, monthly?

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<v Speaker 1>And I bought that full price?

0:24:46.425 --> 0:24:49.185
<v Speaker 2>I didn't, so it was a good sale purpose yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>okay Kim?

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<v Speaker 1>So when are you coming over tomorrow? Okay, thank you

0:24:52.745 --> 0:25:03.505
<v Speaker 1>so much for coming back. Love having you pleasure. So

0:25:03.585 --> 0:25:05.585
<v Speaker 1>as I promised, the show is not over yet. I

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<v Speaker 1>love how Kim.

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<v Speaker 2>Talked us through the process of auditing our wardrobe and

0:25:08.985 --> 0:25:10.345
<v Speaker 2>then what we're going to do with it. So she

0:25:10.465 --> 0:25:14.105
<v Speaker 2>touched on pre loved and reselling. So I've found Miya

0:25:14.225 --> 0:25:16.185
<v Speaker 2>in the studio here and we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>reselling and also buying secondhand because it's very cool right now,

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<v Speaker 2>me Friedman, Hello, Hi, I wanted to bring you onto

0:25:24.545 --> 0:25:26.265
<v Speaker 2>the show and bring you back to talk about pre

0:25:26.345 --> 0:25:28.985
<v Speaker 2>loved fashion because he noticed we talked about a year

0:25:29.025 --> 0:25:32.345
<v Speaker 2>ago about thrifting. Have you noticed the boom of pre loved?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? And it's now a flex when you ask someone.

0:25:35.945 --> 0:25:39.465
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny because back in our magazine days, it

0:25:39.625 --> 0:25:42.785
<v Speaker 1>used to be where's that from? And it used to

0:25:42.785 --> 0:25:44.945
<v Speaker 1>be a flex if it was a label, yes, and

0:25:44.985 --> 0:25:47.465
<v Speaker 1>then it was a flex if it wasn't a label, yes,

0:25:47.545 --> 0:25:49.985
<v Speaker 1>but it looked like a label. And now it's a

0:25:49.985 --> 0:25:52.785
<v Speaker 1>flex if it's shrifted, yeah, if it's pre loved or

0:25:52.785 --> 0:25:57.305
<v Speaker 1>second man, it says not only am I sustainable and

0:25:57.345 --> 0:26:00.585
<v Speaker 1>I'm helping the planet, but also I'm clever and I've

0:26:00.625 --> 0:26:03.265
<v Speaker 1>put in the work. Yes, and I've got something maybe individual,

0:26:03.345 --> 0:26:05.745
<v Speaker 1>and no one can copy it, and I've saved somewhere. Okay,

0:26:05.785 --> 0:26:08.225
<v Speaker 1>So I've brought you across to the well. It's not

0:26:08.265 --> 0:26:10.745
<v Speaker 1>the dark sign anymore. That's six months ago. I was

0:26:10.745 --> 0:26:13.585
<v Speaker 1>looking through a lot of my clothes and I used

0:26:13.585 --> 0:26:15.825
<v Speaker 1>to sell some of my stuff. I'd go through my

0:26:15.825 --> 0:26:18.825
<v Speaker 1>stuff a lot, so I'm not sentimental about my clothes.

0:26:18.825 --> 0:26:20.785
<v Speaker 1>You do a regular clean out, I do, and I

0:26:20.865 --> 0:26:23.625
<v Speaker 1>give away a lot. I donate a lot, and that

0:26:23.785 --> 0:26:25.945
<v Speaker 1>there are some things that I would sell in various

0:26:25.945 --> 0:26:28.905
<v Speaker 1>places consignment shops. Yeah, but I sort of stopped doing

0:26:28.945 --> 0:26:30.985
<v Speaker 1>that and I things have been banking up and I

0:26:31.105 --> 0:26:33.585
<v Speaker 1>was looking at all of it and just going, I

0:26:33.665 --> 0:26:37.345
<v Speaker 1>really want to do something good with this stuff, and

0:26:37.425 --> 0:26:40.305
<v Speaker 1>so give it to me. Well, I wanted to sell

0:26:40.345 --> 0:26:42.425
<v Speaker 1>it and raise money for Rise Up. So Rise Up

0:26:42.505 --> 0:26:44.705
<v Speaker 1>is the charity that we support. I'm an ambassador for them,

0:26:44.705 --> 0:26:47.825
<v Speaker 1>and they help women and children start again after domestic violence.

0:26:47.825 --> 0:26:50.545
<v Speaker 1>They helped set up homes and they don't take pre

0:26:50.625 --> 0:26:54.145
<v Speaker 1>loved stuff, so we support them with money, and I

0:26:54.185 --> 0:26:57.825
<v Speaker 1>wanted to find new homes for my clothes. I don't

0:26:57.825 --> 0:26:59.185
<v Speaker 1>know if you watch Toy Story. I think it was

0:26:59.185 --> 0:27:02.345
<v Speaker 1>the second toy story, the Psycholonaemy. So do you know

0:27:02.425 --> 0:27:04.785
<v Speaker 1>how there was that thing about the toys just wanted

0:27:04.785 --> 0:27:07.225
<v Speaker 1>to be played with. Yes, I feel that way about clothes.

0:27:07.945 --> 0:27:08.785
<v Speaker 1>It's so true.

0:27:08.825 --> 0:27:11.705
<v Speaker 2>And I've got suitcases and suitcases of stuff I want

0:27:11.745 --> 0:27:14.545
<v Speaker 2>to sell. Yeah, but I haven't. I can't set up

0:27:14.545 --> 0:27:16.865
<v Speaker 2>a market stall. I'm too old, and it's too early

0:27:16.905 --> 0:27:18.225
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, and it's too crazy.

0:27:18.425 --> 0:27:21.305
<v Speaker 1>No, I agree, So what I did is eBay contacted

0:27:21.305 --> 0:27:23.385
<v Speaker 1>me and said, would you like to do a store

0:27:23.385 --> 0:27:25.185
<v Speaker 1>with eBay? And I'm like, I used to do stores

0:27:25.225 --> 0:27:28.345
<v Speaker 1>with abab all the time when I was showing all

0:27:28.385 --> 0:27:31.465
<v Speaker 1>the time. I also shop on eBay all the time,

0:27:31.545 --> 0:27:34.745
<v Speaker 1>and I will often find buy new things a lot

0:27:34.745 --> 0:27:36.625
<v Speaker 1>of people don't know ye so by new things on

0:27:36.665 --> 0:27:39.785
<v Speaker 1>eBay too. So now building this store, what's amazing now

0:27:39.825 --> 0:27:41.665
<v Speaker 1>is that there's all this technology on eBay like AI

0:27:41.745 --> 0:27:44.865
<v Speaker 1>and stuff that helps you list items. Yes, if people

0:27:44.905 --> 0:27:47.705
<v Speaker 1>haven't been on lately, it is so different and so

0:27:47.825 --> 0:27:52.025
<v Speaker 1>intuitive and so phenomenal, it's a lot easier much. Yeah,

0:27:52.345 --> 0:27:55.105
<v Speaker 1>I've just really enjoyed the process. I like thinking about

0:27:55.745 --> 0:27:58.985
<v Speaker 1>people being able to wear these things in their own

0:27:59.025 --> 0:28:01.345
<v Speaker 1>wardrobus or I've had so much joy from them. But

0:28:01.585 --> 0:28:03.385
<v Speaker 1>maybe that don't fit me anymore. Maybe they're just not

0:28:03.425 --> 0:28:03.865
<v Speaker 1>my style.

0:28:03.905 --> 0:28:05.385
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I was going to ask, how you

0:28:05.465 --> 0:28:08.545
<v Speaker 2>decided what to culp? What's your filter for it's time

0:28:08.625 --> 0:28:11.145
<v Speaker 2>to sell on eb and give it? Yeah, it's the

0:28:11.185 --> 0:28:12.705
<v Speaker 2>toy that I'll be played with by someone else.

0:28:12.785 --> 0:28:15.105
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, like a lot of people, I sort of

0:28:15.105 --> 0:28:17.265
<v Speaker 1>have clothes stored all over the house in bits of

0:28:17.305 --> 0:28:19.585
<v Speaker 1>other people. I don't know it's all over that normal.

0:28:19.665 --> 0:28:21.465
<v Speaker 1>It's just maybe you and me, maybe you're and me.

0:28:21.785 --> 0:28:25.745
<v Speaker 1>And what I do is I will give something a

0:28:25.785 --> 0:28:29.305
<v Speaker 1>two year grace period because sometimes things come back and

0:28:29.345 --> 0:28:31.705
<v Speaker 1>it's like this year, I just took out all my

0:28:31.785 --> 0:28:35.705
<v Speaker 1>winter coats and winter stuff and I tried it all on,

0:28:36.065 --> 0:28:38.025
<v Speaker 1>and some of it. I was like, I'm going to

0:28:38.065 --> 0:28:41.065
<v Speaker 1>give this one more year. And if I'm a made yeah,

0:28:41.265 --> 0:28:43.025
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't wear it last year, I don't want

0:28:43.025 --> 0:28:45.025
<v Speaker 1>to wear it this year. If I get to another

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<v Speaker 1>year and I haven't worn it, it's going yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>then other things you're like, oh, this feels right for now, Yes,

0:28:50.185 --> 0:28:52.225
<v Speaker 1>you know that feeling. And then if it's like no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not waiting, then it's in the eBay pile. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm going to go on eBay and shop

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<v Speaker 1>your things? Is that weird? If I buy your things

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<v Speaker 1>and then we sit next to each other. I have

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<v Speaker 1>already bought one of my friends because as we were

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<v Speaker 1>laying it all out to photograph, I'd put all these

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<v Speaker 1>things aside and I'd wash them and made sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they were in good condition. And this was about two

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, and then we were photographing them all to

0:29:13.025 --> 0:29:14.705
<v Speaker 1>put up, and so I was making some content and

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<v Speaker 1>I put them all down and there were these pair

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<v Speaker 1>of fluorescent pink essential Antwerp trainers. Oh great, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yes, chunky, and I'm like, why am

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<v Speaker 1>I getting rid of those? I need to take them back?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I felt bad. I'm like, I'm not taking

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<v Speaker 1>money for so I bought them for like one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I love that. So they ended up equivalent,

0:29:32.625 --> 0:29:35.025
<v Speaker 2>and that's much more efficient. The eBay thing is I

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<v Speaker 2>have the bags in the boot my boot for months,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the whole season will change. Like I had

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of winter stuff. This is how bad I

0:29:42.425 --> 0:29:45.425
<v Speaker 2>am that. Then it got cold again and I was like,

0:29:45.465 --> 0:29:47.345
<v Speaker 2>I'm freezing. I was at some soccer game or something

0:29:47.345 --> 0:29:48.865
<v Speaker 2>and went to the back of my car opened their

0:29:48.865 --> 0:29:50.345
<v Speaker 2>bags and I was like, oh, I quite like that

0:29:50.585 --> 0:29:52.465
<v Speaker 2>because it had been there for a year. But had

0:29:52.465 --> 0:29:54.265
<v Speaker 2>I got my act together they listed it on eBay,

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<v Speaker 2>someone would have been wearing it for that year rather

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<v Speaker 2>than yeah, stinky boot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And you can feel a little bit claustrophobic, like when.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I feel like I'm drowning, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to wear because there's too much to

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<v Speaker 2>think about.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's always someone who's going to want what you

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want any more. So it's like freeing its

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<v Speaker 1>future to find a new home, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A different kind of joy. Like I love walking into

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<v Speaker 2>Westfield and buying something from a mass chain store.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I do.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it's oh, it's the hunt, it's the hunt,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's just sometimes the human interaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a cardigan the other day that I brought

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<v Speaker 2>an eBay. I wrote to her and I said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad.

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<v Speaker 3>We're like, yes, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, it was like a village transaction back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>but these two happy women. I bought it, she sold it,

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<v Speaker 2>and the cardigan's living its best life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks for having me, love you.

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