1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,225 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,665 --> 00:00:24,905 Speaker 1: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disserved. 5 00:00:24,625 --> 00:00:28,625 Speaker 3: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to 6 00:00:28,745 --> 00:00:30,345 Speaker 3: do it. You live for fashion. 7 00:00:31,625 --> 00:00:34,065 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome for Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 8 00:00:34,145 --> 00:00:36,625 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. 9 00:00:36,745 --> 00:00:37,745 Speaker 1: I'm Lee Camberllan. 10 00:00:37,865 --> 00:00:40,465 Speaker 2: Every week I chat to an expert who helps us 11 00:00:40,505 --> 00:00:42,105 Speaker 2: work out how to get more out of the clothes 12 00:00:42,145 --> 00:00:45,065 Speaker 2: you already own and tells us what is and isn't 13 00:00:45,185 --> 00:00:48,385 Speaker 2: worth adding to our wardrobes. Now, before I get started, 14 00:00:48,585 --> 00:00:50,705 Speaker 2: stick around to the very end, because there's an extra 15 00:00:50,745 --> 00:00:53,385 Speaker 2: segment on this episode, The Wonder for Me of Freedman 16 00:00:53,505 --> 00:00:55,265 Speaker 2: and I don't just say that because she's my boss, 17 00:00:55,785 --> 00:00:57,345 Speaker 2: is coming to sit down with me and we're going 18 00:00:57,425 --> 00:01:00,305 Speaker 2: to talk about pre Loved. It's the new financial year. 19 00:01:00,305 --> 00:01:02,305 Speaker 2: We might have overspent, we might want to just save 20 00:01:02,345 --> 00:01:05,185 Speaker 2: some money, or we might just want some unique outfits 21 00:01:05,345 --> 00:01:07,225 Speaker 2: or to clear out our wardrobes. So we're going to 22 00:01:07,225 --> 00:01:10,265 Speaker 2: talk about pre Loved buying and selling to do it? 23 00:01:10,345 --> 00:01:13,225 Speaker 2: Where to look if it's overwhelming. We're going to cover 24 00:01:13,265 --> 00:01:16,545 Speaker 2: it all. But first, I've got Kim Crowley joining me. 25 00:01:16,665 --> 00:01:18,745 Speaker 2: She's been on the show a couple of times before, 26 00:01:18,825 --> 00:01:20,865 Speaker 2: and she is a virgo. I had to ask her 27 00:01:20,905 --> 00:01:24,545 Speaker 2: because she's so clever and strategic when it comes to shopping, 28 00:01:25,265 --> 00:01:28,745 Speaker 2: getting dressed and saving money. So it's a new financial year. 29 00:01:28,825 --> 00:01:30,705 Speaker 2: You might have blown the budget, but that's okay. 30 00:01:30,865 --> 00:01:31,585 Speaker 1: It's a new year. 31 00:01:31,865 --> 00:01:34,345 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about saving money, doing a 32 00:01:34,425 --> 00:01:38,825 Speaker 2: wardrobe audit, and then her very interesting four by four 33 00:01:38,905 --> 00:01:41,665 Speaker 2: methods got nothing to do with cars, So let's jump 34 00:01:41,665 --> 00:01:42,025 Speaker 2: into it. 35 00:01:42,465 --> 00:01:46,265 Speaker 1: Kim, welcome back. I'm so excited. This is your third time? 36 00:01:46,745 --> 00:01:49,145 Speaker 3: Is that a fourth? Yes, it's great that I'm using 37 00:01:49,145 --> 00:01:51,305 Speaker 3: count I love it exactly. 38 00:01:51,385 --> 00:01:52,345 Speaker 1: That means we love you. 39 00:01:52,865 --> 00:01:55,785 Speaker 2: The returning guests, well, I've got various questions, but one 40 00:01:55,785 --> 00:01:57,905 Speaker 2: that I want to ask you is do you have 41 00:01:57,945 --> 00:02:01,825 Speaker 2: a fashion security blanket? And if so, what is it? 42 00:02:02,585 --> 00:02:05,905 Speaker 3: That's a great question. My trench coat is a really 43 00:02:05,905 --> 00:02:07,745 Speaker 3: well loved piece. Actually put it from ced A. Just 44 00:02:07,745 --> 00:02:10,745 Speaker 3: go it to toffee color cotton. I get compliments on 45 00:02:10,785 --> 00:02:11,545 Speaker 3: it every time. 46 00:02:11,345 --> 00:02:14,145 Speaker 1: I wear You say toffee, Why I say toffee? Like 47 00:02:14,185 --> 00:02:15,585 Speaker 1: not ten not brown? 48 00:02:15,905 --> 00:02:18,785 Speaker 3: Because I love food as well, so I can associate 49 00:02:18,825 --> 00:02:22,345 Speaker 3: any colors with food. I love it even more. But 50 00:02:22,385 --> 00:02:24,505 Speaker 3: it's this beautiful toffee color. It's really rich color and 51 00:02:24,505 --> 00:02:26,305 Speaker 3: it goes with everything. I have to actually stop myself 52 00:02:26,345 --> 00:02:26,785 Speaker 3: wearing it. 53 00:02:26,785 --> 00:02:28,745 Speaker 1: So you can wear your other things exactly because. 54 00:02:28,505 --> 00:02:29,545 Speaker 3: I want to wear more of my clothes. 55 00:02:29,545 --> 00:02:30,305 Speaker 4: It's security blank. 56 00:02:30,385 --> 00:02:31,905 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a bit security blank it, especially at 57 00:02:31,905 --> 00:02:33,505 Speaker 3: the moment it's chilly and you can wrap yourself up 58 00:02:33,545 --> 00:02:36,265 Speaker 3: because that cotton actually does help the wind not get 59 00:02:36,265 --> 00:02:36,465 Speaker 3: to you. 60 00:02:36,585 --> 00:02:39,945 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of it's not waterproof or wind proof, 61 00:02:40,065 --> 00:02:44,385 Speaker 1: but it really does that kind much better. Tighten fine fiber, yes, exactly, 62 00:02:44,385 --> 00:02:47,585 Speaker 1: really tightly woven, so it's actually a bit protective. Yeah. 63 00:02:47,705 --> 00:02:48,985 Speaker 3: And then light waiting it where. 64 00:02:49,105 --> 00:02:50,585 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just living in it. 65 00:02:50,665 --> 00:02:52,385 Speaker 3: I know it's winter, but god, I love it even 66 00:02:52,425 --> 00:02:54,265 Speaker 3: for the summer. I love like waiting it where too. 67 00:02:54,985 --> 00:02:58,545 Speaker 2: So, Kim, you've been in the industry for over twenty years, 68 00:02:58,545 --> 00:03:00,625 Speaker 2: which is bizarre. You must have been like eleven when 69 00:03:00,625 --> 00:03:03,465 Speaker 2: you start. Of course you worked as a designer, so 70 00:03:03,465 --> 00:03:05,785 Speaker 2: anyone that's listened to the show before will know that. 71 00:03:06,185 --> 00:03:09,025 Speaker 1: And then for brands like H and M. A source yeah, 72 00:03:09,065 --> 00:03:11,505 Speaker 1: I was gonna say age and m and I didn't 73 00:03:11,545 --> 00:03:12,305 Speaker 1: know that I'm as. 74 00:03:12,385 --> 00:03:15,385 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right at the beginning when A soos was 75 00:03:15,425 --> 00:03:18,345 Speaker 3: literally much more about Paris Hilton. Yes, yeah, just literally 76 00:03:18,385 --> 00:03:20,185 Speaker 3: replicate like I've. 77 00:03:20,105 --> 00:03:24,225 Speaker 1: Seen screen, yeah, magazine. 78 00:03:24,385 --> 00:03:27,105 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy thinking about then and how much it's evolved. 79 00:03:27,265 --> 00:03:29,345 Speaker 1: But then you also work with real people, so well, 80 00:03:29,425 --> 00:03:32,105 Speaker 1: you have all shapes and sizes absolutely, So what are 81 00:03:32,265 --> 00:03:35,105 Speaker 1: some of the common things women that you've worked with 82 00:03:35,145 --> 00:03:38,425 Speaker 1: over the decades and all walks of live share when 83 00:03:38,465 --> 00:03:40,305 Speaker 1: it comes to clothes and style. 84 00:03:40,665 --> 00:03:43,065 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, so many things that we all share. It's funny, 85 00:03:43,065 --> 00:03:45,505 Speaker 3: there's this kind of like, so many things that we 86 00:03:45,545 --> 00:03:48,225 Speaker 3: all share, and then when we get deeper, we're very 87 00:03:48,225 --> 00:03:50,505 Speaker 3: different in lots of different ways, but there is a big, 88 00:03:50,505 --> 00:03:52,425 Speaker 3: big area that we all share. A lot of it 89 00:03:52,465 --> 00:03:55,705 Speaker 3: is not knowing how to shop, so being able to 90 00:03:56,305 --> 00:04:02,345 Speaker 3: understand how to you know, shop strategically, not emotionally. But 91 00:04:02,465 --> 00:04:06,625 Speaker 3: one of the biggest biggest things then, aren't you and 92 00:04:06,665 --> 00:04:08,945 Speaker 3: it is you know, we have to change the way 93 00:04:09,065 --> 00:04:12,585 Speaker 3: that we've been behaving for decades, and that's what I'm 94 00:04:12,625 --> 00:04:14,785 Speaker 3: trying to plant seeds for a lot of my clients 95 00:04:15,185 --> 00:04:18,225 Speaker 3: but one of the biggest, biggest things is the ability 96 00:04:18,305 --> 00:04:22,825 Speaker 3: to buy stuff but not put the clothes into outfits. 97 00:04:23,105 --> 00:04:25,265 Speaker 3: That's one of the biggest things that I deal with 98 00:04:25,345 --> 00:04:27,465 Speaker 3: all the time. So lots of people can buy lots 99 00:04:27,505 --> 00:04:27,865 Speaker 3: of stuff. 100 00:04:28,025 --> 00:04:33,065 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, I'm fabulous that it shopping wrong. Then 101 00:04:33,465 --> 00:04:35,345 Speaker 1: that's where you can't get dressed. 102 00:04:35,025 --> 00:04:37,625 Speaker 3: Exactly because you haven't got the outfit. So the whole 103 00:04:37,665 --> 00:04:39,665 Speaker 3: nothing to wear concept is, you know, you look at 104 00:04:39,665 --> 00:04:42,985 Speaker 3: your wardrobe and it's stacked, and it's all packed, but 105 00:04:43,065 --> 00:04:45,345 Speaker 3: we've got nothing to wear is often because we haven't 106 00:04:45,385 --> 00:04:48,585 Speaker 3: found the outfit yet. And that's so much of what 107 00:04:48,665 --> 00:04:50,465 Speaker 3: brings me do. It really does light me up when 108 00:04:50,505 --> 00:04:52,625 Speaker 3: I'm in wardrobes. In fact, I had two of them yesterday. 109 00:04:52,665 --> 00:04:55,025 Speaker 3: I had a female client and male client and they're like, 110 00:04:55,065 --> 00:04:58,185 Speaker 3: I've got loads of stuff, but I can't find the outfits. 111 00:04:58,185 --> 00:04:59,585 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, have you done that? Have you 112 00:04:59,625 --> 00:04:59,905 Speaker 3: done that? 113 00:04:59,985 --> 00:05:00,065 Speaker 1: No? 114 00:05:00,665 --> 00:05:02,985 Speaker 3: Yeah, because a lot of us will get say a dress, 115 00:05:03,065 --> 00:05:04,345 Speaker 3: and then we'll put it with the black blades and 116 00:05:04,385 --> 00:05:05,905 Speaker 3: black shoe and it's like, I've done that. Look, I'm 117 00:05:05,945 --> 00:05:09,505 Speaker 3: really bored of it, I know. And then I'm like, 118 00:05:09,665 --> 00:05:12,505 Speaker 3: how have you put it? With this blazer. They work perfect. Oh, yes, 119 00:05:12,905 --> 00:05:14,545 Speaker 3: because a lot of the time what we do when 120 00:05:14,545 --> 00:05:16,545 Speaker 3: we purchase we put things in boxes in our heads. 121 00:05:16,625 --> 00:05:19,905 Speaker 3: You know that lighter blazer is a wedding blazer and 122 00:05:19,945 --> 00:05:22,505 Speaker 3: this dress is a sexy date night dress. Yes, we 123 00:05:22,585 --> 00:05:25,265 Speaker 3: don't think that the two can coexist or pair together, 124 00:05:26,145 --> 00:05:27,905 Speaker 3: and so I want to be able to go in 125 00:05:27,985 --> 00:05:29,625 Speaker 3: and go. Of course it does, because I don't see 126 00:05:29,625 --> 00:05:32,385 Speaker 3: the barriers. I don't see like how you think that 127 00:05:32,465 --> 00:05:35,945 Speaker 3: your wardrobe fresh eye. I'm like, ah, this goes with this, 128 00:05:35,945 --> 00:05:37,345 Speaker 3: This goes with this, this goes with this. 129 00:05:37,465 --> 00:05:39,745 Speaker 2: Because you said it's how to shop, so is how 130 00:05:39,785 --> 00:05:42,465 Speaker 2: do we fix that problem at the shopping stage so 131 00:05:42,505 --> 00:05:44,265 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen in the wardrobe stage. 132 00:05:44,385 --> 00:05:46,465 Speaker 3: That is a lot of it is fixed by my 133 00:05:46,505 --> 00:05:47,465 Speaker 3: four by four formula. 134 00:05:47,545 --> 00:05:48,705 Speaker 1: Oh, we're going to talk about that later. 135 00:05:48,705 --> 00:05:50,385 Speaker 2: Oh okay, cool, Yes, I want to talk about that 136 00:05:50,425 --> 00:05:53,225 Speaker 2: later because I'm terrible at maths and you love numbers, 137 00:05:53,265 --> 00:05:55,425 Speaker 2: but you're going to teach me something. It's a new 138 00:05:55,465 --> 00:05:58,545 Speaker 2: financial year, which I love. The first of julight, Oh, 139 00:05:58,585 --> 00:06:00,585 Speaker 2: you know, the start of the new financial year. Because 140 00:06:00,665 --> 00:06:01,345 Speaker 2: I've had quite. 141 00:06:01,225 --> 00:06:02,225 Speaker 1: A crappy start to the year. 142 00:06:02,385 --> 00:06:04,825 Speaker 2: Not fashion related, but I'm just gonna I'm like, you 143 00:06:04,825 --> 00:06:09,625 Speaker 2: know what happier year, fresh energy, fresh, vibe, fresh everything, yep. 144 00:06:09,905 --> 00:06:12,305 Speaker 2: And you know, of course it's the financial year, so 145 00:06:13,105 --> 00:06:15,905 Speaker 2: we've all got money on our minds. What's the biggest 146 00:06:15,905 --> 00:06:19,385 Speaker 2: money mistake you see people making when it comes to fashion? 147 00:06:19,825 --> 00:06:21,345 Speaker 1: So many well we talk about how we're going to 148 00:06:21,385 --> 00:06:21,825 Speaker 1: fix them. 149 00:06:21,865 --> 00:06:25,705 Speaker 3: So three main ones. First one is buying on sale, 150 00:06:25,985 --> 00:06:27,665 Speaker 3: so many can't say, oh, I bought this, but I've 151 00:06:27,665 --> 00:06:31,225 Speaker 3: never worn it. Bought this, but it's you know, I 152 00:06:31,265 --> 00:06:32,705 Speaker 3: haven't worn it, and it's all got tickets, and it's 153 00:06:32,705 --> 00:06:34,745 Speaker 3: all got cel tickets being Red Mark, you know, stamps 154 00:06:34,785 --> 00:06:35,185 Speaker 3: all over them. 155 00:06:35,185 --> 00:06:37,385 Speaker 1: In all the rest of it sale extra discount y, yeah. 156 00:06:37,225 --> 00:06:41,465 Speaker 3: Which sounds really enticing, but is not how I want 157 00:06:41,465 --> 00:06:43,065 Speaker 3: you to shop. You know, if you really love that 158 00:06:43,105 --> 00:06:44,665 Speaker 3: product and you've watched it go down. 159 00:06:44,545 --> 00:06:46,785 Speaker 1: Down, you would have got it full price. 160 00:06:46,585 --> 00:06:49,225 Speaker 3: Exactly, jump on it. But nothing is a bargain if 161 00:06:49,265 --> 00:06:51,425 Speaker 3: you don't wear it. And you know, having like three 162 00:06:51,505 --> 00:06:53,625 Speaker 3: or four pieces that oh I only cost thirty bucks 163 00:06:53,705 --> 00:06:56,945 Speaker 3: or fifteen or forty or whatever your budget, it all 164 00:06:56,985 --> 00:06:58,665 Speaker 3: adds up, but you never wear it, so it takes 165 00:06:58,745 --> 00:07:01,025 Speaker 3: up space, takes up brain space, makes us feel guilty, 166 00:07:01,305 --> 00:07:03,825 Speaker 3: takes up guilt exactly. And I don't want people to 167 00:07:03,825 --> 00:07:06,825 Speaker 3: feel good. I want to actually have less that they 168 00:07:06,865 --> 00:07:10,025 Speaker 3: wear more. So the whole buying on sale thing is 169 00:07:10,065 --> 00:07:12,065 Speaker 3: not I it's I know it's hard. Sometimes we look 170 00:07:12,065 --> 00:07:13,665 Speaker 3: around storm like, oh my god, I really tell me. 171 00:07:13,745 --> 00:07:14,785 Speaker 1: You don't shop the sales. 172 00:07:15,145 --> 00:07:18,625 Speaker 3: I only shop it if I really love it. 173 00:07:18,945 --> 00:07:22,465 Speaker 2: So maybe you were already across. Yeah, if you love 174 00:07:22,545 --> 00:07:24,385 Speaker 2: that brand and you check out their sale, you don't 175 00:07:24,425 --> 00:07:26,545 Speaker 2: just find a random website that s having a great 176 00:07:26,545 --> 00:07:27,985 Speaker 2: sale with random stuff you've never seen. 177 00:07:28,025 --> 00:07:32,945 Speaker 3: Okay, No, So to Cuba, I've got beautiful pleated cream nitpants. 178 00:07:33,185 --> 00:07:34,985 Speaker 3: I was looking for something like that. I happened to 179 00:07:34,985 --> 00:07:37,785 Speaker 3: be shopping for myself, which is quite rare, and they're 180 00:07:37,785 --> 00:07:40,105 Speaker 3: not on sale, and I was like, oh, I'm definitely 181 00:07:40,145 --> 00:07:40,745 Speaker 3: going to buy them. 182 00:07:40,825 --> 00:07:44,025 Speaker 2: Okay because there, Yes, that star was already something you 183 00:07:44,025 --> 00:07:44,425 Speaker 2: were seeing. 184 00:07:44,425 --> 00:07:46,065 Speaker 3: Absolutely. The other thing, yeah. 185 00:07:45,905 --> 00:07:46,345 Speaker 1: I need more. 186 00:07:46,465 --> 00:07:49,705 Speaker 3: Here is the buying three for two. You know, those 187 00:07:49,705 --> 00:07:50,425 Speaker 3: whole spend and. 188 00:07:50,385 --> 00:07:51,545 Speaker 1: Save only good for andy. 189 00:07:51,585 --> 00:07:54,665 Speaker 3: It's just capitalism, yes, exactly. Yeah, it's just capitalism. They're 190 00:07:54,665 --> 00:07:56,545 Speaker 3: trying to make you buy more. So we often think 191 00:07:56,625 --> 00:07:58,745 Speaker 3: shopping is a numbers game, or if I buy three, 192 00:07:58,825 --> 00:08:00,425 Speaker 3: that's going to make me happy, then if I had two. 193 00:08:00,505 --> 00:08:03,225 Speaker 2: Yeah, Also that I fall into this chap all the 194 00:08:03,265 --> 00:08:05,065 Speaker 2: time of free shipping, I'm like, I've got to find 195 00:08:05,105 --> 00:08:07,465 Speaker 2: something else free, but I don't really. 196 00:08:07,265 --> 00:08:07,945 Speaker 1: Need the other thing. 197 00:08:08,105 --> 00:08:10,305 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have just paid the ten dollars, yeah, 198 00:08:10,385 --> 00:08:11,745 Speaker 2: rather than trying to round up to forty. 199 00:08:11,985 --> 00:08:13,025 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know exactly. 200 00:08:13,305 --> 00:08:17,185 Speaker 3: So it is really keeping your eye on how desirable 201 00:08:17,225 --> 00:08:20,305 Speaker 3: the item is that you want and buying one and 202 00:08:20,345 --> 00:08:23,105 Speaker 3: buying right, rather than buying plenty and buying so. 203 00:08:23,185 --> 00:08:26,465 Speaker 1: One of the mistakes you see is people buy more 204 00:08:26,505 --> 00:08:29,425 Speaker 1: than they need, more than they need. Yeah, Kim, stop 205 00:08:29,505 --> 00:08:30,585 Speaker 1: following me everywhere. 206 00:08:30,705 --> 00:08:33,385 Speaker 3: And then the third thing is thinking we need five 207 00:08:33,465 --> 00:08:35,905 Speaker 3: new tops when really we need one new top that 208 00:08:35,945 --> 00:08:39,105 Speaker 3: we can wear five ways. Because you know, I could 209 00:08:39,105 --> 00:08:41,785 Speaker 3: talk about shopping being a numbers game. The number I 210 00:08:41,825 --> 00:08:44,145 Speaker 3: want you to care about is how many ways you 211 00:08:44,185 --> 00:08:49,305 Speaker 3: can wear something? Yeah, yes, exactly. Rather than having all 212 00:08:49,345 --> 00:08:51,505 Speaker 3: those five new items in your wardrobe, you're probably only 213 00:08:51,545 --> 00:08:54,665 Speaker 3: gonna wear two. If you've got one that's really versatile, 214 00:08:54,665 --> 00:08:57,865 Speaker 3: it flatters, you feel really good in it, layers under things, 215 00:08:57,905 --> 00:09:00,665 Speaker 3: you can marry on its own. You don't need to exactly. 216 00:09:01,145 --> 00:09:03,145 Speaker 3: You can wear it five ways, So you know, I 217 00:09:03,185 --> 00:09:06,225 Speaker 3: want people to start pivoting the numbers game. The way 218 00:09:06,225 --> 00:09:09,065 Speaker 3: that we think shopping is about buying lots of stuff 219 00:09:09,105 --> 00:09:11,505 Speaker 3: because hopefull one of it will make us feel good. Yeah, 220 00:09:11,745 --> 00:09:12,785 Speaker 3: that's just capitalism. 221 00:09:13,425 --> 00:09:16,025 Speaker 2: I think it feels like we will feel better when 222 00:09:16,025 --> 00:09:18,945 Speaker 2: we've got options, but then we oftentimes feel overwhelmed and 223 00:09:18,985 --> 00:09:21,025 Speaker 2: it makes it harder exactly exactly. 224 00:09:21,025 --> 00:09:22,745 Speaker 3: And that's actually something I was talking about the other day. 225 00:09:22,985 --> 00:09:26,265 Speaker 3: My clients feel really underwhelmed with their wardrobe, overwhelmed by 226 00:09:26,265 --> 00:09:28,585 Speaker 3: the shops. Yeah, and it's like I feel, and that's 227 00:09:28,625 --> 00:09:29,305 Speaker 3: when we feel start. 228 00:09:29,385 --> 00:09:30,625 Speaker 1: That's such a good way to look at it. 229 00:09:31,105 --> 00:09:31,705 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. 230 00:09:31,785 --> 00:09:33,545 Speaker 1: So I just don't know what I do. I just 231 00:09:33,665 --> 00:09:34,185 Speaker 1: I think. 232 00:09:34,145 --> 00:09:37,185 Speaker 3: Exactly because we haven't found the outfit yet that exists 233 00:09:37,185 --> 00:09:38,985 Speaker 3: in our wardrobe. Because this is the thing, it was. 234 00:09:38,945 --> 00:09:41,545 Speaker 2: A desire because oftentimes I'm just shopping because I'm bored 235 00:09:41,625 --> 00:09:43,585 Speaker 2: or said or getting my period or I'm rewarding my. 236 00:09:43,745 --> 00:09:45,825 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, but that's when you need to buy lipstick 237 00:09:46,065 --> 00:09:53,905 Speaker 3: or something like that. Yeah, yes, facial something else will 238 00:09:54,265 --> 00:09:56,105 Speaker 3: that will have that return on investment, because that's what 239 00:09:56,185 --> 00:09:57,905 Speaker 3: I want people to think about when they're purchasing. What's 240 00:09:57,945 --> 00:10:00,945 Speaker 3: my return on investment? Every textile you bring into your house, 241 00:10:01,265 --> 00:10:03,665 Speaker 3: think about the return and investment that cost per weear? 242 00:10:04,265 --> 00:10:08,625 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and the financially, it has just happened. We've 243 00:10:08,745 --> 00:10:11,025 Speaker 2: ordered it all of our maybe the tax department has 244 00:10:11,105 --> 00:10:13,265 Speaker 2: ordered it us. So we've done our finances. So let's 245 00:10:13,465 --> 00:10:14,545 Speaker 2: order our wardrobe. 246 00:10:15,865 --> 00:10:16,465 Speaker 1: What do we do? 247 00:10:16,625 --> 00:10:19,585 Speaker 2: We go through our wardrobe and we work out, you know, 248 00:10:19,585 --> 00:10:21,665 Speaker 2: what we already do have, and we work out gaps. 249 00:10:21,745 --> 00:10:23,665 Speaker 2: And for me, this is something I really need to 250 00:10:23,705 --> 00:10:25,305 Speaker 2: do because I've spoken to you before. I love to 251 00:10:25,345 --> 00:10:28,145 Speaker 2: buy duplicates because I love a genre shirt and I 252 00:10:28,265 --> 00:10:29,385 Speaker 2: accidentally buy another one. 253 00:10:29,425 --> 00:10:31,625 Speaker 1: I don't need another one. So we're going to do 254 00:10:31,665 --> 00:10:34,865 Speaker 1: an audit of our wardrobe and then we're going to 255 00:10:35,305 --> 00:10:38,065 Speaker 1: decide what to do with those things later. But what's 256 00:10:38,105 --> 00:10:41,065 Speaker 1: our process when doing that audit? I love saying audit, yes, 257 00:10:41,345 --> 00:10:41,905 Speaker 1: because it's. 258 00:10:41,745 --> 00:10:45,665 Speaker 3: The end fin that sounds very freshal So what we 259 00:10:45,785 --> 00:10:47,505 Speaker 3: want to do. So basically, when we're looking at our 260 00:10:47,545 --> 00:10:51,225 Speaker 3: wardrobe and we're deciding what we're wearing, a really good 261 00:10:51,225 --> 00:10:52,985 Speaker 3: way to do it is to actually look at the 262 00:10:53,025 --> 00:10:55,385 Speaker 3: things that you're wearing the most, So they're the things 263 00:10:55,385 --> 00:10:57,745 Speaker 3: that you're washing the most, right, and you bring them out. 264 00:10:57,785 --> 00:10:59,265 Speaker 3: Good way to do it, yeah, because you know that. 265 00:10:59,305 --> 00:11:01,945 Speaker 1: You're yeh, yeah, you know you love it. 266 00:11:02,025 --> 00:11:04,625 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so we're and also you know what part 267 00:11:04,665 --> 00:11:06,225 Speaker 3: of the reason I do insta, as I've talked before, 268 00:11:06,345 --> 00:11:08,345 Speaker 3: is because I want to just be able to look 269 00:11:08,385 --> 00:11:10,305 Speaker 3: back at really what I'm wearing. Sometimes what you think 270 00:11:10,305 --> 00:11:13,185 Speaker 3: you're wearing, what you really wear a slightly different, but 271 00:11:13,665 --> 00:11:15,585 Speaker 3: you put them all out in your bed and then 272 00:11:15,625 --> 00:11:17,785 Speaker 3: what you do because when we put things in our 273 00:11:17,785 --> 00:11:20,185 Speaker 3: wardrobe and they're all side hanging, it's kind of hard. 274 00:11:20,265 --> 00:11:21,905 Speaker 3: We think we know what's in there, and we think 275 00:11:21,905 --> 00:11:24,025 Speaker 3: we know what it looks like. But actually I want 276 00:11:24,025 --> 00:11:26,665 Speaker 3: you to bring them out because out of those pieces 277 00:11:26,665 --> 00:11:30,705 Speaker 3: that you're wearing, you're probably only wearing like very formulaic outfits. 278 00:11:30,985 --> 00:11:32,665 Speaker 3: So you might wear one top with one bottom, this 279 00:11:32,745 --> 00:11:34,385 Speaker 3: top with this bottom, this top with this bottom. 280 00:11:34,465 --> 00:11:36,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's in your head. 281 00:11:36,065 --> 00:11:38,465 Speaker 3: Exactly because we know the outfit is familiar, and we 282 00:11:38,505 --> 00:11:40,145 Speaker 3: go back to what we know. You know, we've got 283 00:11:40,145 --> 00:11:42,745 Speaker 3: that kind of photographic memory. I want you to wear 284 00:11:42,745 --> 00:11:44,745 Speaker 3: that top with that bottom. So I want you to 285 00:11:44,785 --> 00:11:46,665 Speaker 3: wear like outfit top number. 286 00:11:46,465 --> 00:11:48,625 Speaker 1: Three, wear them at least just try it on and. 287 00:11:48,665 --> 00:11:50,225 Speaker 3: See how the experiment. 288 00:11:50,465 --> 00:11:53,705 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you doing dress up absolutely the audit absolutely 289 00:11:54,065 --> 00:11:56,145 Speaker 2: kind of order because that text apartment, and that's my 290 00:11:56,265 --> 00:11:56,825 Speaker 2: kind of order. 291 00:11:57,105 --> 00:11:59,305 Speaker 3: It makes the text department a little bit more interesting. 292 00:11:59,825 --> 00:12:02,225 Speaker 3: But what I find fascinating, and what I didn't realize 293 00:12:02,225 --> 00:12:04,665 Speaker 3: at the time, is that we buy things and put 294 00:12:04,665 --> 00:12:06,665 Speaker 3: them in our wardrobes, right, and we expect our wardrobes 295 00:12:06,665 --> 00:12:08,185 Speaker 3: to work really hard for us and to give all 296 00:12:08,225 --> 00:12:10,545 Speaker 3: this stuff back to us. As you know, I've bought this, 297 00:12:10,625 --> 00:12:12,745 Speaker 3: I've spent two hundred dollars on the top. Now it's 298 00:12:12,785 --> 00:12:15,745 Speaker 3: time to you know, to stop reaping the fit exactly 299 00:12:15,825 --> 00:12:18,705 Speaker 3: and get some return on investment. But we don't actually 300 00:12:18,745 --> 00:12:21,105 Speaker 3: then invest the time to play with that garment. We 301 00:12:21,185 --> 00:12:23,425 Speaker 3: buy it, we wear it one way, and we're like, okay, 302 00:12:23,425 --> 00:12:25,265 Speaker 3: I'm on the next thing. It's so true, and I 303 00:12:25,345 --> 00:12:27,585 Speaker 3: want you to go deeper on that garment because there's 304 00:12:27,665 --> 00:12:31,145 Speaker 3: so much potential in your wardrobe. There really is, but 305 00:12:31,225 --> 00:12:33,785 Speaker 3: we need to give our wardrobe time to be able 306 00:12:33,825 --> 00:12:35,545 Speaker 3: to release that potential. It's not going to jump out 307 00:12:35,545 --> 00:12:37,945 Speaker 3: and bite you on the bum. You have to go. 308 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:39,865 Speaker 3: And it's not necessary hard work, it's playful. 309 00:12:39,985 --> 00:12:40,905 Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. 310 00:12:41,065 --> 00:12:44,345 Speaker 3: Literally take it down exactly, and you have to take 311 00:12:44,385 --> 00:12:46,105 Speaker 3: down the barriers that you've put in. You know, I 312 00:12:46,145 --> 00:12:48,305 Speaker 3: go back to that jacket that it's like colored. Oh yeah, 313 00:12:48,305 --> 00:12:50,905 Speaker 3: that's my wedding one, and then this is my work 314 00:12:51,025 --> 00:12:53,265 Speaker 3: can and whatnot, and then we start combining them. 315 00:12:53,305 --> 00:12:55,665 Speaker 2: Like these are a body yellow and like a few 316 00:12:55,665 --> 00:12:57,305 Speaker 2: people have said to me to say like, oh, I 317 00:12:57,385 --> 00:12:59,625 Speaker 2: can't you cold, And I'm like, well no, because I 318 00:12:59,625 --> 00:13:00,985 Speaker 2: think it's a summary. 319 00:13:00,665 --> 00:13:03,225 Speaker 1: Base yes, and then yes, yeah yeah, yah, way, I'd 320 00:13:03,225 --> 00:13:04,745 Speaker 1: be like yellow exactly. 321 00:13:05,025 --> 00:13:08,465 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've put your jacket over it exactly. But 322 00:13:08,585 --> 00:13:10,145 Speaker 3: how do you not just spend a little bit of 323 00:13:10,185 --> 00:13:12,865 Speaker 3: time doing that. You would have put that top underneath 324 00:13:12,945 --> 00:13:16,305 Speaker 3: and that pan in your summer only wardrobe, and we 325 00:13:16,345 --> 00:13:18,625 Speaker 3: put barriers up, and I want to knock all those 326 00:13:18,665 --> 00:13:20,945 Speaker 3: barriers down. And by pulling things out on your bed 327 00:13:21,225 --> 00:13:23,545 Speaker 3: a lot of time, the outfits make themselves. Yeah, because 328 00:13:23,545 --> 00:13:25,185 Speaker 3: if you've got a style, which we all have, we 329 00:13:25,385 --> 00:13:27,625 Speaker 3: have all got personal style, and we've all got a 330 00:13:27,665 --> 00:13:29,385 Speaker 3: type that we like and a kind of look. So 331 00:13:29,465 --> 00:13:31,625 Speaker 3: once we put out our favorite pieces on our bed, 332 00:13:31,665 --> 00:13:34,425 Speaker 3: the ones that are on rotation, there's naturally going to 333 00:13:34,465 --> 00:13:37,385 Speaker 3: be some common denominators that make them go together. 334 00:13:37,385 --> 00:13:41,305 Speaker 1: And maybe not immediately logical outfits that. Yes, that's where 335 00:13:41,345 --> 00:13:42,865 Speaker 1: they're like, yes, work comes in. 336 00:13:42,985 --> 00:13:44,585 Speaker 3: That's a really good point. We always want to take 337 00:13:44,625 --> 00:13:45,305 Speaker 3: away the logic. 338 00:13:45,585 --> 00:13:48,025 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like the wrong shoe theory, but for your 339 00:13:48,025 --> 00:13:59,905 Speaker 2: fact exactly all right, So we've done the audit. Our 340 00:13:59,945 --> 00:14:02,105 Speaker 2: happy colths are having a party on the bed. Then 341 00:14:02,145 --> 00:14:07,585 Speaker 2: there's the clothes who have had a lovely life maybe. 342 00:14:07,305 --> 00:14:09,825 Speaker 1: But they're not going to make the party. You're not invited. Ye, 343 00:14:10,105 --> 00:14:11,505 Speaker 1: what are we doing with them? 344 00:14:11,825 --> 00:14:14,505 Speaker 3: So we are either because basically we don't want to 345 00:14:14,545 --> 00:14:17,785 Speaker 3: ever throw clothes away. It's either you try and sell it, 346 00:14:17,865 --> 00:14:19,665 Speaker 3: and this is in the right kind of order, so 347 00:14:19,665 --> 00:14:21,025 Speaker 3: you try and sell it and make some money to 348 00:14:21,465 --> 00:14:23,185 Speaker 3: recycle that money into your Extperkay. 349 00:14:23,185 --> 00:14:25,345 Speaker 1: I want to ask, can I break them down there? Okay? 350 00:14:25,425 --> 00:14:27,625 Speaker 2: So I've got things that I are in my cell 351 00:14:27,705 --> 00:14:30,865 Speaker 2: pie or that could be a coach bag or an 352 00:14:30,905 --> 00:14:34,185 Speaker 2: oriiton bag or could be god, I've even got some 353 00:14:34,345 --> 00:14:35,025 Speaker 2: fancy of things. 354 00:14:35,025 --> 00:14:40,225 Speaker 1: But then I've got your maybe dish or it's just 355 00:14:40,385 --> 00:14:42,585 Speaker 1: I've got such a mix of things. I don't know 356 00:14:42,865 --> 00:14:43,785 Speaker 1: where to sell. 357 00:14:43,625 --> 00:14:48,065 Speaker 2: What or like what's valuable? Yeah, because it's so personal. 358 00:14:48,265 --> 00:14:50,105 Speaker 3: Yeah, so sometime and that's it. In you only need 359 00:14:50,105 --> 00:14:52,625 Speaker 3: one buyer. It's just getting to them, is it. So 360 00:14:52,785 --> 00:14:55,505 Speaker 3: it's either going to places like you know, pre loved 361 00:14:55,545 --> 00:14:57,025 Speaker 3: and consignment and all those care. 362 00:14:56,905 --> 00:14:59,465 Speaker 1: Places like your designer Like I've got one designer bag. 363 00:14:59,465 --> 00:15:01,945 Speaker 1: I feel so guilty about buying, but I never use it, 364 00:15:01,985 --> 00:15:02,825 Speaker 1: so I'd like to read. 365 00:15:03,105 --> 00:15:05,345 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and as long as you learn a few lessons, 366 00:15:05,385 --> 00:15:07,945 Speaker 3: but why you don't wear it and use it, then 367 00:15:07,985 --> 00:15:09,545 Speaker 3: you've learned the lesson from it and you can set 368 00:15:09,545 --> 00:15:10,065 Speaker 3: it free. 369 00:15:09,945 --> 00:15:14,065 Speaker 1: And sing with exactly exactly. 370 00:15:14,265 --> 00:15:16,545 Speaker 3: So it's either consignment or might be on you know, 371 00:15:16,585 --> 00:15:18,945 Speaker 3: the specific Facebook groups that you can sell it. There's 372 00:15:19,025 --> 00:15:20,705 Speaker 3: lots of different ways to to sell it. You can 373 00:15:20,745 --> 00:15:23,585 Speaker 3: just sell it on marketplace, you know, best collector all different. 374 00:15:23,265 --> 00:15:27,105 Speaker 1: Places, eBay, depop exactly. 375 00:15:26,825 --> 00:15:29,905 Speaker 3: Exactly there are there are and it might just be 376 00:15:30,025 --> 00:15:31,865 Speaker 3: having a little bit of research to the type of 377 00:15:31,905 --> 00:15:33,865 Speaker 3: brands that seem to sell quite well and that they've 378 00:15:33,905 --> 00:15:36,345 Speaker 3: got you know, maybe not many listed on that actually 379 00:15:36,385 --> 00:15:39,225 Speaker 3: might go quicker for example, that's kind of quite good 380 00:15:39,265 --> 00:15:41,425 Speaker 3: to look at. If you can't sell it and make money, 381 00:15:41,585 --> 00:15:45,385 Speaker 3: then give it to a friend, friend gift, or you 382 00:15:45,425 --> 00:15:46,305 Speaker 3: swap it with a friend. 383 00:15:46,625 --> 00:15:48,785 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I've had some friends starting 384 00:15:48,785 --> 00:15:51,465 Speaker 1: to do little swaps and a little swap parties. 385 00:15:51,265 --> 00:15:54,065 Speaker 3: Or great because it gives you life to that's all 386 00:15:54,065 --> 00:15:56,345 Speaker 3: we want to do, because it takes such a takes 387 00:15:56,385 --> 00:15:58,665 Speaker 3: such a lot of work when I've been designing to 388 00:15:58,665 --> 00:16:02,065 Speaker 3: to get a textile into the world and make it beautiful. 389 00:16:02,665 --> 00:16:04,625 Speaker 3: So to me, I look, I think of the long 390 00:16:04,785 --> 00:16:07,745 Speaker 3: life cycle of that garment, not just the wearing part 391 00:16:07,785 --> 00:16:09,465 Speaker 3: for the person one. I'm like, what you're going to 392 00:16:09,545 --> 00:16:12,105 Speaker 3: do after the next thing is you if you don't 393 00:16:12,105 --> 00:16:13,865 Speaker 3: give it to a friend or swap it, then you 394 00:16:13,945 --> 00:16:16,305 Speaker 3: give it to charity, donating so many in a fashion 395 00:16:16,385 --> 00:16:18,945 Speaker 3: forward dress for success. There's so many great ones out 396 00:16:18,985 --> 00:16:21,385 Speaker 3: there that really do amazing things to women. 397 00:16:21,185 --> 00:16:23,345 Speaker 1: For They're here in Bondai, but there are Instagram. 398 00:16:23,585 --> 00:16:25,825 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, last week actually oh did you then? 399 00:16:25,865 --> 00:16:25,985 Speaker 4: Love? 400 00:16:26,265 --> 00:16:27,785 Speaker 1: Tell you what I got? But it's all for charity. 401 00:16:27,865 --> 00:16:29,225 Speaker 1: It helps children. 402 00:16:29,345 --> 00:16:30,905 Speaker 3: Yeah, I needed to drop off to the match. 403 00:16:31,465 --> 00:16:33,305 Speaker 2: We'll go to day and I'll buy your things and 404 00:16:33,385 --> 00:16:36,985 Speaker 2: give them money to charity, but they really give vinis your. 405 00:16:36,825 --> 00:16:40,705 Speaker 3: Exactly and you can't take dirty things to them. They're 406 00:16:40,705 --> 00:16:42,545 Speaker 3: not going to accept it. So all of that goes 407 00:16:42,585 --> 00:16:45,225 Speaker 3: to rags. Anything it's really dirty, and I. 408 00:16:45,625 --> 00:16:48,385 Speaker 1: Think kids, daycare clothes and like stuff. 409 00:16:48,065 --> 00:16:51,225 Speaker 3: That's all that. Wash your car with it, clean the house, 410 00:16:51,305 --> 00:16:54,385 Speaker 3: clean kitchen, you know, use that wash it, chuck it 411 00:16:54,385 --> 00:16:56,425 Speaker 3: in with a wash and then and then keep using it. 412 00:16:56,465 --> 00:16:59,345 Speaker 3: Because they're textiles, they would just want to be reused 413 00:16:59,385 --> 00:17:01,025 Speaker 3: and used. So if we think. 414 00:17:00,865 --> 00:17:03,625 Speaker 1: About it, really trying to avoid landfillm absolutely because. 415 00:17:03,425 --> 00:17:05,345 Speaker 3: Someone else can get joy from it, and if they can't, 416 00:17:05,385 --> 00:17:06,145 Speaker 3: it goes to rags. 417 00:17:06,185 --> 00:17:09,065 Speaker 2: Okay, I love that. All right, I've kept everyone waiting 418 00:17:09,145 --> 00:17:11,105 Speaker 2: long enough. We need to talk about you. Four by four. 419 00:17:11,145 --> 00:17:13,225 Speaker 1: It sounds like a big truck that would fit my 420 00:17:13,265 --> 00:17:15,785 Speaker 1: wardrobe dinner? Is that what it is? What's the four 421 00:17:15,905 --> 00:17:17,305 Speaker 1: x four theory methods? 422 00:17:17,385 --> 00:17:19,105 Speaker 3: The four by four is basically right. So I have 423 00:17:19,185 --> 00:17:21,785 Speaker 3: obviously lots of clients that will buy four new pieces 424 00:17:21,945 --> 00:17:23,385 Speaker 3: and I'm like, cool, have you you know go around 425 00:17:23,385 --> 00:17:23,905 Speaker 3: their house when. 426 00:17:23,825 --> 00:17:27,545 Speaker 1: Need say that, like in the one like season day. 427 00:17:28,465 --> 00:17:30,585 Speaker 3: Totally depends on the clients. Some people might buy four 428 00:17:30,585 --> 00:17:33,145 Speaker 3: pieces in a month, okay, some people might buy four 429 00:17:33,185 --> 00:17:36,065 Speaker 3: over the season. Totally depends on shopping habits, budget, all 430 00:17:36,065 --> 00:17:38,105 Speaker 3: those things they've got, four they've got. If they've got 431 00:17:38,145 --> 00:17:40,865 Speaker 3: four recent things, a lot of time, I'm like, okay, cool, 432 00:17:40,905 --> 00:17:42,945 Speaker 3: because so have you worn them together? Like oh no, 433 00:17:43,665 --> 00:17:45,145 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well have you tried one? Oh no, 434 00:17:45,225 --> 00:17:47,545 Speaker 3: I just bought them randomly separately, and I can never 435 00:17:47,745 --> 00:17:50,825 Speaker 3: like outfitting them. So my whole thing is, if ever 436 00:17:50,865 --> 00:17:53,305 Speaker 3: you buy four pieces to say, two tops, two bottoms, 437 00:17:53,625 --> 00:17:55,865 Speaker 3: I want you to not just create one outfit from 438 00:17:55,865 --> 00:17:59,345 Speaker 3: that or two outfits. So each time goes for the bottom, 439 00:17:59,785 --> 00:18:02,265 Speaker 3: we need to cross pollinate it. So for every four 440 00:18:02,505 --> 00:18:05,305 Speaker 3: items we can wear, four outfits we can create. 441 00:18:05,505 --> 00:18:07,705 Speaker 1: This is the process we go through before we purchase. 442 00:18:07,985 --> 00:18:08,865 Speaker 3: At the time of the purpose. 443 00:18:08,985 --> 00:18:11,265 Speaker 2: It has to like go through this four by four 444 00:18:11,305 --> 00:18:12,425 Speaker 2: before it's allowed. 445 00:18:12,185 --> 00:18:13,385 Speaker 1: To be out. 446 00:18:13,705 --> 00:18:17,065 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, it's very hard. It's not okay, it's not 447 00:18:17,545 --> 00:18:21,025 Speaker 2: I've had my eye on this bomber. Let's pretend how 448 00:18:21,025 --> 00:18:22,465 Speaker 2: do I fall by four it in my head? 449 00:18:22,545 --> 00:18:24,345 Speaker 3: So you make sure that the pant you want to 450 00:18:24,385 --> 00:18:25,945 Speaker 3: buy next, yeah, is going. 451 00:18:25,865 --> 00:18:28,545 Speaker 1: To go with it, or the skirt or the dress. Okay, 452 00:18:28,665 --> 00:18:30,625 Speaker 1: so it can be a dress and bought the bomber. 453 00:18:30,785 --> 00:18:32,385 Speaker 2: Now I see a skirt and I'm like, hang on, 454 00:18:32,905 --> 00:18:35,465 Speaker 2: bombers new will skirt get along with bomber exactly? 455 00:18:35,545 --> 00:18:36,585 Speaker 3: And are they going to be friends? 456 00:18:36,665 --> 00:18:39,145 Speaker 2: That's so clever because even if it's beyond the four, 457 00:18:39,945 --> 00:18:42,465 Speaker 2: you should think of your recent purchases and will at work, 458 00:18:42,505 --> 00:18:43,465 Speaker 2: will at work, will at. 459 00:18:43,425 --> 00:18:46,065 Speaker 3: Work exactly, because I want every four pieces you buy, 460 00:18:46,145 --> 00:18:49,225 Speaker 3: say's two tops and two bottoms to cross pollin eate. Okay, 461 00:18:49,265 --> 00:18:51,985 Speaker 3: so you've got the four outfits going across, and then 462 00:18:52,145 --> 00:18:55,145 Speaker 3: what happens is you do those outfits and then you 463 00:18:55,185 --> 00:18:57,825 Speaker 3: look at them back with what you've bought last year, yeah, 464 00:18:57,865 --> 00:18:58,745 Speaker 3: ten years ago. 465 00:18:58,585 --> 00:19:01,185 Speaker 1: And it kind of inspires the process. 466 00:19:00,625 --> 00:19:03,825 Speaker 3: Absolutely because you're always thinking about the outfit, not the item. 467 00:19:03,865 --> 00:19:05,145 Speaker 3: And this is the thing. This, while I go back 468 00:19:05,185 --> 00:19:08,425 Speaker 3: to the shopping, isn't numbers game. It's the numbers game, 469 00:19:08,625 --> 00:19:12,065 Speaker 3: is also about the outfits you're creating, not the items 470 00:19:12,065 --> 00:19:14,945 Speaker 3: you're purchasing. Because again, the whole numbers game, the capitalism 471 00:19:15,025 --> 00:19:16,465 Speaker 3: part of you know, I'm going to go and buy 472 00:19:16,465 --> 00:19:18,105 Speaker 3: ten items and I know that will make me happy. 473 00:19:18,145 --> 00:19:21,385 Speaker 3: It doesn't It doesn't so really thinking about the outcome 474 00:19:21,585 --> 00:19:22,345 Speaker 3: of the outfit. 475 00:19:22,425 --> 00:19:24,945 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so said skirt, I've just said, oh, yes, 476 00:19:24,945 --> 00:19:26,345 Speaker 1: it goes with barmer, and it goes with that, and 477 00:19:26,385 --> 00:19:28,665 Speaker 1: then I go, oh that top, So then I go 478 00:19:28,905 --> 00:19:31,025 Speaker 1: oh that top, Yes, that goes with skirt, which also 479 00:19:31,065 --> 00:19:33,185 Speaker 1: goes with bomber, and then it's kind of exactly. 480 00:19:32,865 --> 00:19:35,225 Speaker 3: And from that one top you can still create four outfits. 481 00:19:36,065 --> 00:19:38,425 Speaker 3: So we've always got to think about, you know, because 482 00:19:38,465 --> 00:19:41,305 Speaker 3: otherwise we're just buying items on their own in silo 483 00:19:42,025 --> 00:19:44,025 Speaker 3: and we're never thinking really about the outfit. It's like, oh, 484 00:19:44,065 --> 00:19:45,785 Speaker 3: what's the outfit? I can work with a gene or 485 00:19:45,785 --> 00:19:48,945 Speaker 3: a black pant. That's not enough. So for every four items, 486 00:19:48,985 --> 00:19:52,305 Speaker 3: we need four outfits. And the compound interest it's not 487 00:19:52,545 --> 00:19:53,985 Speaker 3: it's not. I mean, it does take a bit of thought, 488 00:19:53,985 --> 00:19:55,305 Speaker 3: and that's what I want people to do. I want 489 00:19:55,345 --> 00:19:59,345 Speaker 3: you to be considered and intentional about what they're purchasing. 490 00:19:59,625 --> 00:20:01,665 Speaker 3: But the great thing is the compound interest means that 491 00:20:01,705 --> 00:20:04,545 Speaker 3: once you then do those four you bought four items, 492 00:20:04,745 --> 00:20:08,585 Speaker 3: you created four outfits. Okay, then when you're buying another 493 00:20:08,625 --> 00:20:11,665 Speaker 3: four later in the season next year, the compound interest 494 00:20:11,705 --> 00:20:14,145 Speaker 3: means that you might double the amount you're buying, but 495 00:20:14,225 --> 00:20:18,665 Speaker 3: you've tripled the amount of outfits because they're like breeding exactly. 496 00:20:19,105 --> 00:20:21,745 Speaker 3: So the compound interest effect means that you've actually got 497 00:20:21,985 --> 00:20:26,625 Speaker 3: way way more outfits from way less clothes. And fundamentally, 498 00:20:26,745 --> 00:20:27,705 Speaker 3: that's what I delibut. 499 00:20:27,705 --> 00:20:39,545 Speaker 4: It's very expensive. 500 00:20:40,025 --> 00:20:40,985 Speaker 3: How wordre. 501 00:20:43,745 --> 00:20:46,465 Speaker 1: Okay on to bougie and budget. I mean, we've probably. 502 00:20:46,225 --> 00:20:48,905 Speaker 2: Should have done two budgets because we're talking about saving 503 00:20:48,905 --> 00:20:51,265 Speaker 2: money and getting more out of your clothes. However, I've 504 00:20:51,265 --> 00:20:53,825 Speaker 2: bought a bougie. Let's start with your budget though, what's 505 00:20:53,865 --> 00:20:54,385 Speaker 2: your budget? 506 00:20:54,425 --> 00:20:59,105 Speaker 3: And why my budget is the assembly label coat. It's 507 00:20:59,105 --> 00:21:02,545 Speaker 3: Cesadi coat. It's currently on sale from two eighty to 508 00:21:02,585 --> 00:21:04,225 Speaker 3: about one nine five am. 509 00:21:04,225 --> 00:21:06,705 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to shop the sales cam. I'm joking. 510 00:21:06,825 --> 00:21:09,425 Speaker 3: That is such a classic, so classic, you know, the 511 00:21:09,425 --> 00:21:12,185 Speaker 3: one that belted lots of colors. So some colors are 512 00:21:12,225 --> 00:21:14,785 Speaker 3: on sale, some aren't. And it's one hundred percent wall 513 00:21:15,185 --> 00:21:16,185 Speaker 3: and that's a really good. 514 00:21:16,025 --> 00:21:17,825 Speaker 2: And that's the best thing to buy on sales. It's 515 00:21:17,825 --> 00:21:19,425 Speaker 2: a staple quality. 516 00:21:19,105 --> 00:21:22,345 Speaker 3: That you're going to wear for saily. 517 00:21:21,305 --> 00:21:23,585 Speaker 2: Discounted, but it's saving you a bit of money on 518 00:21:23,625 --> 00:21:27,425 Speaker 2: something you will like flog to death and I'm absolutely approved. Okay, 519 00:21:27,585 --> 00:21:31,505 Speaker 2: my budget is a Target bag. I don't know if 520 00:21:31,545 --> 00:21:33,105 Speaker 2: you've seen. They've been out for a little bit now. 521 00:21:33,265 --> 00:21:38,585 Speaker 2: The Target swayed one hundred collection of bags. So if 522 00:21:38,585 --> 00:21:40,305 Speaker 2: I first got some loafers at the start of winter, 523 00:21:40,745 --> 00:21:45,025 Speaker 2: real Sway, I got the black ones. They're like wearing slippers. 524 00:21:45,025 --> 00:21:46,705 Speaker 2: There's also a tan and then the bag. 525 00:21:47,105 --> 00:21:48,665 Speaker 1: I'm not getting it because it's a new financial u 526 00:21:48,705 --> 00:21:50,025 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to save money and I actually need 527 00:21:50,065 --> 00:21:51,265 Speaker 1: to sell some of my bags. 528 00:21:51,425 --> 00:21:52,585 Speaker 3: But before you replace them. 529 00:21:52,705 --> 00:21:54,905 Speaker 2: Correct, If I was in the market for a bag 530 00:21:54,945 --> 00:21:57,025 Speaker 2: and it could go back with my fourth fife four, 531 00:21:57,185 --> 00:21:58,945 Speaker 2: I would be getting. There's a few of them. Actually 532 00:21:58,945 --> 00:22:00,505 Speaker 2: they've got like a big slapsy bo hoo. But this 533 00:22:00,545 --> 00:22:04,985 Speaker 2: one's the premium Swayed leather bucket tote bag in khaki. Yeah, 534 00:22:05,025 --> 00:22:05,945 Speaker 2: that's eighty dollars. 535 00:22:05,945 --> 00:22:08,665 Speaker 3: That's really good and I love how that's quite structured 536 00:22:08,705 --> 00:22:11,225 Speaker 3: but also a bit slouchy. It's like lots of people's style. 537 00:22:11,265 --> 00:22:13,345 Speaker 1: I don't even work for them, but I'm just so impressed, 538 00:22:13,465 --> 00:22:16,105 Speaker 1: Like they do the bow hoy slouchy shoulder. 539 00:22:16,185 --> 00:22:18,505 Speaker 3: Oh is that in this way too? It's that little 540 00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:21,905 Speaker 3: gold class. Oh that's impressive. That's impressive. 541 00:22:22,465 --> 00:22:26,065 Speaker 1: Not for me because I'm but other people. 542 00:22:26,505 --> 00:22:28,865 Speaker 3: Other people in the market, just saying it would go 543 00:22:28,905 --> 00:22:29,785 Speaker 3: really nice with your out. 544 00:22:29,825 --> 00:22:33,385 Speaker 1: You've gone today, all right, what else if you got 545 00:22:33,385 --> 00:22:34,745 Speaker 1: for me? What's your boogie? 546 00:22:35,145 --> 00:22:37,785 Speaker 3: My bougie is Comla Mark because they do really really 547 00:22:37,785 --> 00:22:42,625 Speaker 3: good outwear. Trenches and jackets and coats are really they're unparallel. Yeah, 548 00:22:42,785 --> 00:22:44,945 Speaker 3: so they're Donato coats one one hundred. 549 00:22:45,025 --> 00:22:49,625 Speaker 1: I don't think. Oh so it's a worn Yeah, what 550 00:22:49,945 --> 00:22:50,865 Speaker 1: called like a tidy coat. 551 00:22:51,065 --> 00:22:53,145 Speaker 3: Well, it's very similar to the assembly label. And the 552 00:22:53,185 --> 00:22:55,225 Speaker 3: reason I like them a lot is because they're not 553 00:22:55,305 --> 00:22:56,665 Speaker 3: too dressing gown ish. 554 00:22:56,985 --> 00:22:57,185 Speaker 1: You know. 555 00:22:57,265 --> 00:22:59,625 Speaker 3: Sometimes I had a short collar. They've got dressing gown 556 00:23:00,025 --> 00:23:03,305 Speaker 3: fabric thingy. That's yeah sometimes and obviously you can put 557 00:23:03,305 --> 00:23:05,545 Speaker 3: a nice structured belt on. It looks really cool if 558 00:23:05,545 --> 00:23:08,105 Speaker 3: you're going, if you're dressing it up, etcetera. Purposing. But 559 00:23:08,665 --> 00:23:11,185 Speaker 3: the Donato coat is augeous. 560 00:23:10,905 --> 00:23:14,745 Speaker 2: Because that's because we're such good people. We've got an 561 00:23:14,785 --> 00:23:17,745 Speaker 2: amazing tax return and we're treating ourselves. 562 00:23:17,785 --> 00:23:19,745 Speaker 3: And again that will be really timeless, but it's interesting 563 00:23:19,745 --> 00:23:21,625 Speaker 3: because that's not one hundred percent well it's woolen poly 564 00:23:22,905 --> 00:23:23,705 Speaker 3: which is interesting. 565 00:23:23,825 --> 00:23:26,905 Speaker 2: Well, it depends because some of my natural synthetic blends. 566 00:23:27,025 --> 00:23:27,625 Speaker 1: We're the best. 567 00:23:27,825 --> 00:23:29,705 Speaker 2: All right, good, I'm glad you're bougie. Was bougie because 568 00:23:29,705 --> 00:23:33,465 Speaker 2: my bougi is quite bousy. Okay, okay, so we're being. 569 00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:36,105 Speaker 1: A good girl. This isn't me. But someone needs to 570 00:23:36,425 --> 00:23:39,305 Speaker 1: invest because we're talking about saving money and shopping on 571 00:23:39,305 --> 00:23:43,345 Speaker 1: a budget, but also we're talking about purchasing things will watable. 572 00:23:42,865 --> 00:23:46,105 Speaker 3: Thing investment absolutely. 573 00:23:46,465 --> 00:23:48,385 Speaker 2: I mean I could not love Oriton anymore. In the 574 00:23:48,425 --> 00:23:51,625 Speaker 2: last few years, they have just had the biggest go up. 575 00:23:51,785 --> 00:23:54,145 Speaker 2: This is already sold out but coming back. But I'm 576 00:23:54,145 --> 00:23:55,665 Speaker 2: just going to tell people about it so it's on 577 00:23:55,665 --> 00:24:00,945 Speaker 2: their radar. It is the Mica workmanship small bowler like 578 00:24:00,945 --> 00:24:03,465 Speaker 2: it's a bowler bag, which means like, but this is 579 00:24:03,505 --> 00:24:05,985 Speaker 2: the small the mini. The mini is quite small. The 580 00:24:06,065 --> 00:24:10,705 Speaker 2: bowler is like, like, that's that's her everyday handbag. Yes, 581 00:24:10,785 --> 00:24:12,705 Speaker 2: you could fit your laptop. I would probably have a 582 00:24:12,705 --> 00:24:14,665 Speaker 2: separate bag from my laptop. But this is my everything 583 00:24:14,785 --> 00:24:18,985 Speaker 2: as in like glasses, you know, bottle Yes, yeah, zip 584 00:24:19,065 --> 00:24:21,945 Speaker 2: I love something the fully zip shut because I throw 585 00:24:21,985 --> 00:24:22,385 Speaker 2: it in the car. 586 00:24:22,465 --> 00:24:24,705 Speaker 1: Everything falls out. I love the black. 587 00:24:25,185 --> 00:24:27,945 Speaker 2: It's eight hundred and ninety nine dollars and already sold out. 588 00:24:27,945 --> 00:24:29,505 Speaker 2: So what does that tell you? Yeah, And like we 589 00:24:29,505 --> 00:24:31,305 Speaker 2: were talking before we started recording, I've got a green 590 00:24:31,345 --> 00:24:33,745 Speaker 2: Oriton bag. I bought from the Origin outlet online. If 591 00:24:33,745 --> 00:24:36,225 Speaker 2: you're not across the Oriton outlet online, where have you 592 00:24:36,265 --> 00:24:38,545 Speaker 2: been all your life? It's online maybe five or six 593 00:24:38,585 --> 00:24:38,985 Speaker 2: years ago. 594 00:24:39,025 --> 00:24:41,025 Speaker 1: And I use it a lot, Yeah, a lot. 595 00:24:41,385 --> 00:24:42,905 Speaker 3: And that's it. You want to think about the frequency? 596 00:24:42,945 --> 00:24:44,785 Speaker 3: Am I going to wear this daily? Week yere, monthly? 597 00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:46,385 Speaker 1: And I bought that full price? 598 00:24:46,425 --> 00:24:49,185 Speaker 2: I didn't, so it was a good sale purpose yes, yes, yes, 599 00:24:49,265 --> 00:24:49,705 Speaker 2: okay Kim? 600 00:24:49,745 --> 00:24:52,665 Speaker 1: So when are you coming over tomorrow? Okay, thank you 601 00:24:52,745 --> 00:25:03,505 Speaker 1: so much for coming back. Love having you pleasure. So 602 00:25:03,585 --> 00:25:05,585 Speaker 1: as I promised, the show is not over yet. I 603 00:25:05,625 --> 00:25:06,465 Speaker 1: love how Kim. 604 00:25:06,305 --> 00:25:08,985 Speaker 2: Talked us through the process of auditing our wardrobe and 605 00:25:08,985 --> 00:25:10,345 Speaker 2: then what we're going to do with it. So she 606 00:25:10,465 --> 00:25:14,105 Speaker 2: touched on pre loved and reselling. So I've found Miya 607 00:25:14,225 --> 00:25:16,185 Speaker 2: in the studio here and we're going to talk about 608 00:25:16,225 --> 00:25:20,985 Speaker 2: reselling and also buying secondhand because it's very cool right now, 609 00:25:21,385 --> 00:25:24,505 Speaker 2: me Friedman, Hello, Hi, I wanted to bring you onto 610 00:25:24,545 --> 00:25:26,265 Speaker 2: the show and bring you back to talk about pre 611 00:25:26,345 --> 00:25:28,985 Speaker 2: loved fashion because he noticed we talked about a year 612 00:25:29,025 --> 00:25:32,345 Speaker 2: ago about thrifting. Have you noticed the boom of pre loved? 613 00:25:32,705 --> 00:25:35,865 Speaker 1: Yes? And it's now a flex when you ask someone. 614 00:25:35,945 --> 00:25:39,465 Speaker 1: It's so funny because back in our magazine days, it 615 00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:42,785 Speaker 1: used to be where's that from? And it used to 616 00:25:42,785 --> 00:25:44,945 Speaker 1: be a flex if it was a label, yes, and 617 00:25:44,985 --> 00:25:47,465 Speaker 1: then it was a flex if it wasn't a label, yes, 618 00:25:47,545 --> 00:25:49,985 Speaker 1: but it looked like a label. And now it's a 619 00:25:49,985 --> 00:25:52,785 Speaker 1: flex if it's shrifted, yeah, if it's pre loved or 620 00:25:52,785 --> 00:25:57,305 Speaker 1: second man, it says not only am I sustainable and 621 00:25:57,345 --> 00:26:00,585 Speaker 1: I'm helping the planet, but also I'm clever and I've 622 00:26:00,625 --> 00:26:03,265 Speaker 1: put in the work. Yes, and I've got something maybe individual, 623 00:26:03,345 --> 00:26:05,745 Speaker 1: and no one can copy it, and I've saved somewhere. Okay, 624 00:26:05,785 --> 00:26:08,225 Speaker 1: So I've brought you across to the well. It's not 625 00:26:08,265 --> 00:26:10,745 Speaker 1: the dark sign anymore. That's six months ago. I was 626 00:26:10,745 --> 00:26:13,585 Speaker 1: looking through a lot of my clothes and I used 627 00:26:13,585 --> 00:26:15,825 Speaker 1: to sell some of my stuff. I'd go through my 628 00:26:15,825 --> 00:26:18,825 Speaker 1: stuff a lot, so I'm not sentimental about my clothes. 629 00:26:18,825 --> 00:26:20,785 Speaker 1: You do a regular clean out, I do, and I 630 00:26:20,865 --> 00:26:23,625 Speaker 1: give away a lot. I donate a lot, and that 631 00:26:23,785 --> 00:26:25,945 Speaker 1: there are some things that I would sell in various 632 00:26:25,945 --> 00:26:28,905 Speaker 1: places consignment shops. Yeah, but I sort of stopped doing 633 00:26:28,945 --> 00:26:30,985 Speaker 1: that and I things have been banking up and I 634 00:26:31,105 --> 00:26:33,585 Speaker 1: was looking at all of it and just going, I 635 00:26:33,665 --> 00:26:37,345 Speaker 1: really want to do something good with this stuff, and 636 00:26:37,425 --> 00:26:40,305 Speaker 1: so give it to me. Well, I wanted to sell 637 00:26:40,345 --> 00:26:42,425 Speaker 1: it and raise money for Rise Up. So Rise Up 638 00:26:42,505 --> 00:26:44,705 Speaker 1: is the charity that we support. I'm an ambassador for them, 639 00:26:44,705 --> 00:26:47,825 Speaker 1: and they help women and children start again after domestic violence. 640 00:26:47,825 --> 00:26:50,545 Speaker 1: They helped set up homes and they don't take pre 641 00:26:50,625 --> 00:26:54,145 Speaker 1: loved stuff, so we support them with money, and I 642 00:26:54,185 --> 00:26:57,825 Speaker 1: wanted to find new homes for my clothes. I don't 643 00:26:57,825 --> 00:26:59,185 Speaker 1: know if you watch Toy Story. I think it was 644 00:26:59,185 --> 00:27:02,345 Speaker 1: the second toy story, the Psycholonaemy. So do you know 645 00:27:02,425 --> 00:27:04,785 Speaker 1: how there was that thing about the toys just wanted 646 00:27:04,785 --> 00:27:07,225 Speaker 1: to be played with. Yes, I feel that way about clothes. 647 00:27:07,945 --> 00:27:08,785 Speaker 1: It's so true. 648 00:27:08,825 --> 00:27:11,705 Speaker 2: And I've got suitcases and suitcases of stuff I want 649 00:27:11,745 --> 00:27:14,545 Speaker 2: to sell. Yeah, but I haven't. I can't set up 650 00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:16,865 Speaker 2: a market stall. I'm too old, and it's too early 651 00:27:16,905 --> 00:27:18,225 Speaker 2: in the morning, and it's too crazy. 652 00:27:18,425 --> 00:27:21,305 Speaker 1: No, I agree, So what I did is eBay contacted 653 00:27:21,305 --> 00:27:23,385 Speaker 1: me and said, would you like to do a store 654 00:27:23,385 --> 00:27:25,185 Speaker 1: with eBay? And I'm like, I used to do stores 655 00:27:25,225 --> 00:27:28,345 Speaker 1: with abab all the time when I was showing all 656 00:27:28,385 --> 00:27:31,465 Speaker 1: the time. I also shop on eBay all the time, 657 00:27:31,545 --> 00:27:34,745 Speaker 1: and I will often find buy new things a lot 658 00:27:34,745 --> 00:27:36,625 Speaker 1: of people don't know ye so by new things on 659 00:27:36,665 --> 00:27:39,785 Speaker 1: eBay too. So now building this store, what's amazing now 660 00:27:39,825 --> 00:27:41,665 Speaker 1: is that there's all this technology on eBay like AI 661 00:27:41,745 --> 00:27:44,865 Speaker 1: and stuff that helps you list items. Yes, if people 662 00:27:44,905 --> 00:27:47,705 Speaker 1: haven't been on lately, it is so different and so 663 00:27:47,825 --> 00:27:52,025 Speaker 1: intuitive and so phenomenal, it's a lot easier much. Yeah, 664 00:27:52,345 --> 00:27:55,105 Speaker 1: I've just really enjoyed the process. I like thinking about 665 00:27:55,745 --> 00:27:58,985 Speaker 1: people being able to wear these things in their own 666 00:27:59,025 --> 00:28:01,345 Speaker 1: wardrobus or I've had so much joy from them. But 667 00:28:01,585 --> 00:28:03,385 Speaker 1: maybe that don't fit me anymore. Maybe they're just not 668 00:28:03,425 --> 00:28:03,865 Speaker 1: my style. 669 00:28:03,905 --> 00:28:05,385 Speaker 2: And that's what I was going to ask, how you 670 00:28:05,465 --> 00:28:08,545 Speaker 2: decided what to culp? What's your filter for it's time 671 00:28:08,625 --> 00:28:11,145 Speaker 2: to sell on eb and give it? Yeah, it's the 672 00:28:11,185 --> 00:28:12,705 Speaker 2: toy that I'll be played with by someone else. 673 00:28:12,785 --> 00:28:15,105 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, like a lot of people, I sort of 674 00:28:15,105 --> 00:28:17,265 Speaker 1: have clothes stored all over the house in bits of 675 00:28:17,305 --> 00:28:19,585 Speaker 1: other people. I don't know it's all over that normal. 676 00:28:19,665 --> 00:28:21,465 Speaker 1: It's just maybe you and me, maybe you're and me. 677 00:28:21,785 --> 00:28:25,745 Speaker 1: And what I do is I will give something a 678 00:28:25,785 --> 00:28:29,305 Speaker 1: two year grace period because sometimes things come back and 679 00:28:29,345 --> 00:28:31,705 Speaker 1: it's like this year, I just took out all my 680 00:28:31,785 --> 00:28:35,705 Speaker 1: winter coats and winter stuff and I tried it all on, 681 00:28:36,065 --> 00:28:38,025 Speaker 1: and some of it. I was like, I'm going to 682 00:28:38,065 --> 00:28:41,065 Speaker 1: give this one more year. And if I'm a made yeah, 683 00:28:41,265 --> 00:28:43,025 Speaker 1: because I didn't wear it last year, I don't want 684 00:28:43,025 --> 00:28:45,025 Speaker 1: to wear it this year. If I get to another 685 00:28:45,105 --> 00:28:47,345 Speaker 1: year and I haven't worn it, it's going yeah. And 686 00:28:47,345 --> 00:28:50,065 Speaker 1: then other things you're like, oh, this feels right for now, Yes, 687 00:28:50,185 --> 00:28:52,225 Speaker 1: you know that feeling. And then if it's like no, 688 00:28:52,345 --> 00:28:54,865 Speaker 1: I'm not waiting, then it's in the eBay pile. Oh 689 00:28:54,905 --> 00:28:56,425 Speaker 1: my god, I'm going to go on eBay and shop 690 00:28:56,465 --> 00:28:58,585 Speaker 1: your things? Is that weird? If I buy your things 691 00:28:58,625 --> 00:29:00,465 Speaker 1: and then we sit next to each other. I have 692 00:29:00,545 --> 00:29:03,225 Speaker 1: already bought one of my friends because as we were 693 00:29:03,905 --> 00:29:07,305 Speaker 1: laying it all out to photograph, I'd put all these 694 00:29:07,345 --> 00:29:09,265 Speaker 1: things aside and I'd wash them and made sure that 695 00:29:09,265 --> 00:29:11,265 Speaker 1: they were in good condition. And this was about two 696 00:29:11,305 --> 00:29:13,025 Speaker 1: months ago, and then we were photographing them all to 697 00:29:13,025 --> 00:29:14,705 Speaker 1: put up, and so I was making some content and 698 00:29:14,745 --> 00:29:16,145 Speaker 1: I put them all down and there were these pair 699 00:29:16,225 --> 00:29:20,905 Speaker 1: of fluorescent pink essential Antwerp trainers. Oh great, I mean 700 00:29:21,025 --> 00:29:23,345 Speaker 1: I was like, yes, chunky, and I'm like, why am 701 00:29:23,385 --> 00:29:25,425 Speaker 1: I getting rid of those? I need to take them back? 702 00:29:25,425 --> 00:29:26,745 Speaker 1: And then I felt bad. I'm like, I'm not taking 703 00:29:26,785 --> 00:29:29,145 Speaker 1: money for so I bought them for like one hundred 704 00:29:29,185 --> 00:29:30,425 Speaker 1: dollars myself. 705 00:29:30,505 --> 00:29:32,585 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that. So they ended up equivalent, 706 00:29:32,625 --> 00:29:35,025 Speaker 2: and that's much more efficient. The eBay thing is I 707 00:29:35,105 --> 00:29:37,265 Speaker 2: have the bags in the boot my boot for months, 708 00:29:37,905 --> 00:29:40,145 Speaker 2: and then the whole season will change. Like I had 709 00:29:40,425 --> 00:29:42,385 Speaker 2: a bunch of winter stuff. This is how bad I 710 00:29:42,425 --> 00:29:45,425 Speaker 2: am that. Then it got cold again and I was like, 711 00:29:45,465 --> 00:29:47,345 Speaker 2: I'm freezing. I was at some soccer game or something 712 00:29:47,345 --> 00:29:48,865 Speaker 2: and went to the back of my car opened their 713 00:29:48,865 --> 00:29:50,345 Speaker 2: bags and I was like, oh, I quite like that 714 00:29:50,585 --> 00:29:52,465 Speaker 2: because it had been there for a year. But had 715 00:29:52,465 --> 00:29:54,265 Speaker 2: I got my act together they listed it on eBay, 716 00:29:54,305 --> 00:29:55,745 Speaker 2: someone would have been wearing it for that year rather 717 00:29:55,745 --> 00:29:57,065 Speaker 2: than yeah, stinky boot. 718 00:29:57,185 --> 00:30:00,905 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you can feel a little bit claustrophobic, like when. 719 00:30:00,745 --> 00:30:02,865 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like I'm drowning, and so I 720 00:30:02,905 --> 00:30:04,705 Speaker 2: don't know what to wear because there's too much to 721 00:30:04,745 --> 00:30:05,265 Speaker 2: think about. 722 00:30:05,665 --> 00:30:09,705 Speaker 1: So there's always someone who's going to want what you 723 00:30:09,705 --> 00:30:12,465 Speaker 1: you don't want any more. So it's like freeing its 724 00:30:12,545 --> 00:30:14,665 Speaker 1: future to find a new home, and it's. 725 00:30:14,545 --> 00:30:16,625 Speaker 2: A different kind of joy. Like I love walking into 726 00:30:16,665 --> 00:30:18,705 Speaker 2: Westfield and buying something from a mass chain store. 727 00:30:18,745 --> 00:30:19,305 Speaker 1: Of course I do. 728 00:30:19,425 --> 00:30:21,785 Speaker 2: But when it's oh, it's the hunt, it's the hunt, 729 00:30:21,825 --> 00:30:23,865 Speaker 2: and then it's just sometimes the human interaction. 730 00:30:23,905 --> 00:30:24,105 Speaker 1: Yeah. 731 00:30:24,105 --> 00:30:25,465 Speaker 2: I got a cardigan the other day that I brought 732 00:30:25,465 --> 00:30:26,945 Speaker 2: an eBay. I wrote to her and I said, Hey, 733 00:30:26,985 --> 00:30:27,945 Speaker 2: I love it so much. 734 00:30:28,345 --> 00:30:29,065 Speaker 1: I'm so glad. 735 00:30:29,225 --> 00:30:31,265 Speaker 3: We're like, yes, yeah, you. 736 00:30:31,225 --> 00:30:34,345 Speaker 2: Know, it was like a village transaction back in the day, 737 00:30:34,785 --> 00:30:37,145 Speaker 2: but these two happy women. I bought it, she sold it, 738 00:30:37,185 --> 00:30:38,785 Speaker 2: and the cardigan's living its best life. 739 00:30:38,905 --> 00:30:41,065 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me, love you. 740 00:30:42,225 --> 00:30:44,585 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to Nothing to Air Now. 741 00:30:44,585 --> 00:30:46,665 Speaker 2: Don't forget there's a newsletter that goes with this show. 742 00:30:46,785 --> 00:30:48,665 Speaker 2: So there's a link in the show notes to sign up. 743 00:30:48,705 --> 00:30:50,585 Speaker 2: That's where you'll see links to all the products we 744 00:30:50,625 --> 00:30:54,225 Speaker 2: talk about, images some great extra info. You can also 745 00:30:54,265 --> 00:30:56,505 Speaker 2: watch us on YouTube if you're not watching me right now. 746 00:30:56,545 --> 00:31:00,425 Speaker 2: But this whole podcast is also visual, so watch us there, 747 00:31:00,945 --> 00:31:03,385 Speaker 2: find us on Instagram. 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