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Speaker 1: Mer's twice daily news podcast, The Quickie. The Sussexes are

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Speaker 1: making headlines again, Prince Harry's walking away from a passion project,

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Speaker 1: there's whispers of a new Diana documentary, and is Megan

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Speaker 1: can you believe it's been two decades since we first

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Speaker 2: All Right, everybody, it's a beautiful night to saved Lives.

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Speaker 1: It's such fun. Yep. Gray's Anatomy is turning twenty this week,

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Speaker 1: so let's turn our attention to the woman who changed

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Speaker 1: the face of television forever. But first, here's Grace Roubray

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Speaker 2: For Friday, March twenty.

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Speaker 3: Eight, Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi is set to call a

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Speaker 3: first prime minister since John Howard to win back to

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Speaker 3: back elections, while Opposition leader Peter Dutton aims to break

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Speaker 3: The election, initially expected in April, was delayed due to

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Speaker 3: tropical Cyclone Alfred. The government used the extra time to

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Speaker 3: deliver a budget including tax cuts from July twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Cost of living concerns are set to dominate the campaign,

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Speaker 3: his termination opposition later. Peter Dutton has ruled out tax

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Speaker 3: cuts under a coalition government, instead promising cheaper electricity and petrol.

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Speaker 1: Next the shock exit that's left Prince Harry devastated. The

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Speaker 1: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with

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Speaker 1: us today. The Quickie is produced by me tayl Estrano

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Speaker 1: and Grace Roofrey, with audio production by Lou Hill.