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Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Moody Body.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty much the recipe for life. Everything you do

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Speaker 2: should be baby steps because you can't go further than

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Speaker 2: will take you. You can't reach a goal without that journey.

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Speaker 2: If there's a positive spin to anything you're doing, look

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Speaker 2: for it. Find that silver lining, because even in the

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Speaker 2: darkest of times, there is always light. And it's been

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Speaker 2: quite funny, it's been this term keeps on coming up

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Speaker 2: a lot lately. But you know that the light needs

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Speaker 2: a darkness. I say this all the time. I've got

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Speaker 2: it written down, It's on my LinkedIn all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. It's a waterfall starts with a single drop

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the seas the YA Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 1: one way. So this is a platform to hear and

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives. They adore,

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst day

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of seizing your yea I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or Spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned unentrepreneur

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Speaker 1: who swapped the suits and heels to co found matcha

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Speaker 1: Maiden and matcha Milk Bar. CZA is a series of

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Speaker 1: conversations on finding a life you love and exploring the

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Speaker 1: self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way. Do

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Speaker 1: you ever meet someone and just know in your heart

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Speaker 1: that they are pure goodness all the way to their bones?

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Speaker 1: If you know anything about Tim Cannolan's work, you could

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Speaker 1: probably already guess that about him, but meeting him in

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Speaker 1: person last year absolutely confirmed it, and I've continued to

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Speaker 1: be in awe of him ever since. Tim's one of

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Speaker 1: those people whose why seems to have stayed pretty much

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Speaker 1: the same, but whose how has evolved through many different

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Speaker 1: amazing iterations, like All of the Best Ways dyea from

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Speaker 1: a fashion label all the way through to a decade

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Speaker 1: long and very successful career as a DJ. Reading about

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Speaker 1: his earlier years, you might not expect that he'd end

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Speaker 1: up founding a children's charity that's helped millions of Australians,

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Speaker 1: But once you see the common thread of his deep

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Speaker 1: desire to make people happy. It all makes sense, as

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Speaker 1: it always does in the end. In nineteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: Tim founded TLC for Kids after an incredibly moving encounter

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Speaker 1: that brings me to tears that you'll hear about on

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Speaker 1: the episode. Seeing that many sick kids fall through the

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Speaker 1: cracks left by other organizations, TLC now gives relief to

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Speaker 1: sick children and their families with no restriction on particular

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Speaker 1: to get children through uncomfortable or difficult procedures in hospital,

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Speaker 1: an incredible TLC ambulance that has allowed many children and

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Speaker 1: their families to go on exciting adventures outside the hospital,

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Speaker 1: and a rapid response service, all of which have been

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Speaker 1: used over eight million times. If you listen to Tim

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Speaker 1: today and don't want to help him change the world

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Speaker 1: and donate all your money to him, I'd be surprised,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that some of you do. An the end.

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Speaker 1: He's a truly extraordinary human, recognized by so many accolades,

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Speaker 1: I hope he inspires you as much as he inspires me. Tim.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Sarah I'm very excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm actually in your boardroom, so I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to be It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for comings is this is great,

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Speaker 2: really truly, really truly, really truly really please get you here.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's such a pleasure, And it's been in the

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Speaker 1: it had been since I came to visit. Well, I

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Speaker 1: am so excited to share your incredible story. And as

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Speaker 1: we mentioned, were just before we started recording, we were

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Speaker 1: That's so many accolades. Well, it's something really normal.

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Speaker 2: The main thing is just like helping people. And if

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a fault. I think it's such

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's so wonderful. And you've built an amazing, amazing

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Speaker 1: This section is called your way Ta, which is pretty

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Speaker 1: much tracing how you got here. We call it your

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Speaker 2: So it made people happy. You know, you've got to

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Speaker 2: and it was lucrative and because of these manufacturers literally

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00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: lost everything. Oh gosh. And when it happened, we thought, okay,

436
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: so all right, money, it was nice to have, but

437
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: it's a tool, and we've got the skills to pick

438
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: ourselves up and if we have to go back on

439
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: the tools and start making the clothes and try and

440
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 2: dig ourselves out of pretty big debt. We can do that,

441
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: so because we kept positive and dug our way out

442
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: of this debt. And I suppose you lead by or

443
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: your best revenger of success every single time. So we thought, okay,

444
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: so we'll sort of getting back on our feet, and

445
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 2: a couple of our friends, well, we should teach people

446
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 2: how you stayed so positive because in life you have financial, physical,

447
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: or you know, any sort of a loss that could happen.

448
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: But we went through the financial loss, but we kept

449
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: positive about it. So that's let's set up like a

450
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 2: motivational workshop, teach people how we stayed positive. So we

451
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: had vision boards, we had positive thinking. We did goal

452
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: setting meditation back then with the meditation, which I absolutely

453
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: loved when we were telling people that we were teaching

454
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 2: people how to meditate, because it went through a couple

455
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: of courses, and I suppose I gravitated towards it really

456
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 2: easily because just this way again to go to my

457
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 2: own happy place, just thinking you can switch off no

458
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: matter where you are. But when we were telling people

459
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: we were doing meditation, it came up said, oh, hey

460
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: is it a cult. What is going on? Nothing like

461
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: it's such a hippie dude. And then from the motivational

462
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: workshops we were doing, that's what That's what led to

463
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: working with street kids to try and motivate them and

464
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 2: give them some sort of hope, doing some work with

465
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: high school kids to help them deal with the stresses

466
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: of final year exams. And then eventually we ended up

467
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: doing a full workshop on a weekend for a bunch

468
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: of kids on canteen. So and I'd had nothing to

469
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: do with anyone that was sick prior to that weekend.

470
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 2: Found it all been very well, so very blessed life,

471
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: if you call it that. And on this camp, the

472
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: kids loved it. So they just wanted to know more.

473
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: How can they just get so much out of it?

474
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: And the motivation for me was next level. I thought,

475
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: this is this is where I feel I should be

476
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: because I'm talking to someone about something I love and

477
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: they want to hear more and they're putting into practice

478
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: and it's changing their lives. So it was. It was

479
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 2: absolutely pivotal. And that's where I met Francis So he

480
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: was only it was only four years older than him,

481
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: so he was like seventeen. I was twenty one, twenty

482
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: one and a half, and he had lung cancer. He

483
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: had lung cancer and it was very young especially they

484
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: have lung cancer because it wasn't from smoking or anything.

485
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: It was just just a very unfortunate situation. And did

486
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: a little bit more of intense work with Francis after

487
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: the camp, and pretty much the long story short of

488
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: helped him reach his last three wishes in his life,

489
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: which was a pair of runners, a surfboard, and a

490
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: breath without pain. And because I'd been teaching meditation, which

491
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 2: was a great supposed skill that I had, so I

492
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: talked him through really deep meditation but still quite basic,

493
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: but with his nurse and his mum because it got

494
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 2: there okay to do it, and he actually took three

495
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: deep breaths without any pain at all, which was just

496
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: for me. It was just it stopped my life for

497
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: a second thing. This is awesome. I helped him get

498
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: this thing that it was almost the unattainable goal. And

499
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: same every time. I don't know how many times I've

500
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: told this story, but it is like yesterday for me.

501
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: I've got his photo in my office like I do,

502
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: I truly and honestly, hand to heart, think of him

503
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: every single day because he changed my life and put

504
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: me in a different direction. So after I helped him

505
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: with his breath, sadly he did pass away a few

506
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: days later, and when I was sitting with his mum,

507
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: she said that he was content, he was happy that

508
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: everyone has done so much for him, and he's very grateful.

509
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: So he's a very appreciative kid. But the thing that

510
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: he wanted the most was his breath without pain, and

511
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: she said, you gave it to him, And the second

512
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: the words left her mouth, I thought, this is what

513
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be doing in my life. From Francis

514
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: it sort of the focus was, well, oh, how do

515
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: how do we help one more kid? What's that going

516
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: to look like? So it was a lot of charitable work.

517
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: We continue doing our with the workshops and the DJ

518
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff was going on, but

519
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: with the focus of all how can you help someone else?

520
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 2: And that led to working with some kids down at Geelong,

521
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: which organized quite a few day trips and just exciting

522
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: things for these kids. And then one of the kids

523
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: got transferred to the children's hospital. I met Anna, who

524
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: was in pr at that time. Her job was vetting

525
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: anybody that came into the hospital, especial all the charities.

526
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: She was also working in the PR side for the campaigns.

527
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: So she had to date you to work out if

528
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: she could vet you for the program.

529
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: It was actually she requested police checks and references.

530
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: Well, you got through all those hurtles five it made

531
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: sense that you ended up together.

532
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: It was fate. But I did have to fax these

533
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: things to it, so just I don't want to date

534
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 2: how long ago this was, but yes, it was a

535
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: few faxes that I had to see them through with

536
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: my credentials to get in the hospital. And that's where

537
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 2: that's where TLC started. But doing all those different jobs

538
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: lead to meeting Ann and then starting TLC.

539
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: Oh, And this is what gets me. If you had

540
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: tried to start TLC straight out of school or straight

541
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: off about it, just wouldn't you know each of those

542
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: experiences was a stepping stone that you needed to meet

543
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: the people and have the realizations that you needed to

544
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: get to TLC. Which even the TLC that you started

545
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: is still it's not the TLC that you have now.

546
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: And I think we just have this deep rush or

547
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: deep sense of needing to know the answer and get

548
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: to the end straight away. But you can't rush through

549
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: all those steps.

550
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: No.

551
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: I love reminding everyone like you, you couldn't have started

552
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: that without all those other jobs that you had. First.

553
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 2: No, and if again, if I hadn't met Francis djaying

554
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: work and I could have continued on with that career

555
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: and if I wanted to gone international, and you know,

556
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: if I want to, because again I love the entertaining part,

557
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: but that it made me happy, but I needed to

558
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: meet Francis. I needed to have that that alternate.

559
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: I call them sliding doors with the sliding.

560
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: Doors moment absolutely because it's you know, I know I

561
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: would have been doing something. It would have been nice,

562
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: but I don't know how nice or how much of

563
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: a reach it would have had.

564
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: And you mean, we could have been recording this on

565
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: a yacht in Monaco after a gig that you played

566
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: at a club stew so we are no one can seecht.

567
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: That's good.

568
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: So we were actually talking about this that back in

569
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, you and Anna started TLC at your

570
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: kitchen table, which is actually where you made a great

571
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: return to during COVID to run to LC year. How

572
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: did it all begin Starting an off for profit is

573
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: an enormous undertaking. But I also love that you said

574
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: how do I help just one kid? Because I think

575
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, a big part of the c z A

576
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: book is this concept of dream big, which you need

577
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: to to dream outside your current reality, but plans small

578
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: so that you're not so overwhelmed that you don't start

579
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: the dream, because you know, if you think too big,

580
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: I think you get scared that it's so impossible and

581
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: so not feasible that you just don't start at all.

582
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: So how did you begin? Like, how did you even

583
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: figure out? You'd never had a background in this area.

584
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: You hadn't been around someone who was sick to have

585
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: an intimate experience of what people needed. And it seems

586
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: like you've always been good at filling gaps in human needs.

587
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: But how did you translate that into something?

588
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: I think it came back to again starting small, and

589
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: that's you know, I've loved movies. One of my greatest

590
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: pastime used to be. You know, I still do much

591
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: enjoy watching a movie because it's that your break from reality.

592
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: But you used to love watching movies and so many

593
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: variety of films. But there's been a couple that sort

594
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,239
Speaker 2: of stick in my mind that have actually been some

595
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: life lessons for me, which is quite funny. Even Bill

596
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: Murray's what about Bob So in the movie, there's a

597
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: great saying that he has with he's psychiatrist talking to him,

598
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: which is Richard Dreyfus, and he says, if you have

599
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: to have a goal and meet a goal, you know

600
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: where you have to go, but don't try and get

601
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: there in one step. So it's baby steps and literally

602
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 2: like one foot in front of the other, fantastic. You've

603
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: just reached a goal. You've done it, so your next

604
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: step fantastic, and those little wins lead up to the

605
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: big win. I know it's funny to reference a very

606
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: funny movie for me, Well, that's pretty much the recipe

607
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: for life. Everything you do should be baby steps because

608
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: you can't go further than you can step, you can't

609
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: drive faster than the car will take you. You can't

610
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: reach a goal without that journey. So when the focus

611
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: was to try and help one more kid, it's okay,

612
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: well it's one more kid. I don't want to help

613
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: a thousand kids. It'd be fantastic, but that never entered

614
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: my mind. I think, how can I help a thousand kids,

615
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: ten thousand kids, a million, whatever. It is, so well

616
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: one so how hard could that be? So you have

617
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: to work out how do you find the one, but

618
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: also make sure that you're doing the thing that they need.

619
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: So it wasn't going to be a personal thing that

620
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to fulfill something for someone, So well, what

621
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: does somebody need and how do you make that? Then

622
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: make that happen. So, as it turned out, this first child,

623
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 2: the request was for a organized a phone call from

624
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: Jimmy Barnes for this kid's birthday. And Jimmy was calling

625
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: my phone. This is again back in the days of

626
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: faxes and mobile phones. I think it was a Nockier

627
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: oh two, I.

628
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: Believe it was called so those bricks that actually had

629
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: the best battery life of any phone every.

630
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: And how cool were they? So cool?

631
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: I kind of want one now. Remember a Snake, Such

632
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: a good game makes hours of my childhood.

633
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: And that was the game that he could play, the

634
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: only game. So Jimmy was calling my phone. That's when

635
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: I met Anna and I took us up to the

636
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: war to see Michael. The phone call came through. He

637
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: spent about fifteen minutes on the phone with him, and

638
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: when he hung up, Michael said, Oh my god, this

639
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: is like the best day of my life and for

640
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: me in my heads, OK, check fantastic. I just just

641
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: helped another kid. And that's what he wanted. It wasn't

642
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: bells and whistles, it wasn't balloons or a fancy trip.

643
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: He wanted a phone call from Jimmy Varnes. So it

644
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: made it happen. Then, after lots of discussions with Anna

645
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: and doctors and nurses for the charity part, because it

646
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: was still charitable work, so I wasn't a rigister charity

647
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: or a business that was doing with my brother as well,

648
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: so he was down at a long still. I thought, well,

649
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: how can it progress into a charity because there was

650
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: a need that was being met by other charities, so

651
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: kids were falling through the gaps, and that flawed me

652
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: to know that or not. All the kids in the

653
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: hospital were being looked after. Medically, for sure, it's second

654
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: to none, But that emotional need or those little bit

655
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: of extra bits of support the family might need to

656
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: help pay a bill or have a weekend away wasn't

657
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: there for all kids. It was only kids with certain illnesses.

658
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: So I thought the goal from helping just one kid,

659
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: then took a dramatic leap to think, well, it looks

660
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: like it's going to be a lot more than just

661
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: one kid that needs a help, because back then it

662
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: was eighty percent of the kids didn't fit the criteria,

663
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: so it was a majority of kids, and it was

664
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: heartbreaking for me to think, well, I don't think that's fair.

665
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: I didn't have the resources of money or you know,

666
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: even I suppose the skill was to fix this problem.

667
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: But what I did see is, well, maybe if we

668
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: encourage the charities that are already there, because we don't

669
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: need to duplicate services or create something else, but encourage

670
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: those charities that are already doing that great work to

671
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: do just a little bit more. Great intention started that

672
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: and couldn't raise money. It was very hard because people

673
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: didn't understand that the gap you were feeling, that the

674
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: gap we're feeling, and why I was a child that

675
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: was burnt receiving the same support that the child that

676
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: had a popular illness or a well known illness of

677
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: the world. Emotionally, they're going through exactly the same thing.

678
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: So I was pretty much funding the organization for the

679
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: first two years. I was still.

680
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: Djaying, So we're going to say it the DJ money,

681
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: DJ money.

682
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: Thank you. Wicked to that. The djaying came in really

683
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: handy because that was a source of income to pay

684
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: for things for the families, pay for either the toys

685
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: or laptops. What are we getting for these kids? But

686
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: it was it was finite, and it got to a

687
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: stage where I was getting almost burned out because was

688
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: taking up seven days a week again from our kitchen table.

689
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: That then, as we're getting busy, I went to the

690
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: front room. We took over that people were donating product,

691
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: but still it was hard to get money, and then

692
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: we eventually moved the office. It's funny, Sarah, I've got

693
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: the other most respect for people, and people have their journeys,

694
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: and you have an amount of information that you take in.

695
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: So you do what you do with the knowledge you

696
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: have at the time. And we we're meeting with people,

697
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: like even at home, we had look secondhand furniture. Look,

698
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 2: it wasn't nice. It was comfortable enough, but it wasn't

699
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: like you know, gold chandeliers or you know, giant things.

700
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: It was like, well, we were running a charity and

701
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: giving all of our own money into the charity and

702
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: make sure this things worked. But when people come out

703
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: from meetings, they go, oh, that's a nice couch, isn't it.

704
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: Did the charity buy that for you? Oh? No, And

705
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: just so you know, it was fifty five dollars from

706
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: one of these furniture places that we got secondhand. But

707
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: people judging us on what we had in the house,

708
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: and it was a real it was really uncomfortable position

709
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: to be in to think, well, we have to convince people, Yeah,

710
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: separate people, that's not our life, and you know, the

711
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: charity is not fun our lifestyle. We were funding the

712
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: charity's lifestyle, so we had to find a really cheap

713
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: office just for perception, which I still now. I think

714
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: it's really sad that can't people just accept that you're

715
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: doing good work and not have the judgment. But it's

716
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: human nature. So it was a nice, I suppose nice

717
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: lesson to learn, well, how do you come across and

718
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: how do you garnish support support?

719
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: I was like Coriando, not too much peper, just to touch.

720
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: So it wasn't just the charitable work that we had

721
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: to perfect and do and make sure that was all done.

722
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: We also had to make sure well the business side

723
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: of the charity was run and run really well. So

724
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 2: anybody that's thinking of getting into the nonprofit sector, it's

725
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: not as simple as well, I want to do good

726
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: and just do my own thing. It has to be

727
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 2: run like a very successful business. So you've got your auditors,

728
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 2: you've got your banking, you've got a lot of trust

729
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: that you have to go through and set up in

730
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: a structure that has you know, you bought it, directors,

731
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: whatever it might be. The whole gamut of the legal

732
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: side of the charity has to be sorted out and

733
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: in place before you started doing the week. So it's

734
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: this real sort of thrust into this brand new business,

735
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: which again bringing the skills that I had from the

736
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: promotion business and the clothing business and even the djaing work.

737
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: Well that that all came to fruition to make sure

738
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: I know how to do these things because I've been

739
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: doing it, just not for a charity. So it's been

740
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: an interesting journey. When we had our office in nidri

741
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: So and I left the Children's Hospital in two thousand,

742
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: that's when the GST was introduced. So prior to that

743
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: we had this letter from it was Consumer Affairs to

744
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: say that we're regised charity, so we've got a ten

745
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: percent discount everywhere you go, and no one can say

746
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: I'm not going to give it to you. So well,

747
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: we've got a letter, We've got a letter.

748
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: They faxed it.

749
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: Do you know, I've just got to I've got to

750
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: rub the letters. I can actually see it from the facts.

751
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: But as soon as they introduced the GST, we had

752
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: to find this extra money because even though we're getting

753
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: the GST back, you had to pay for it up front,

754
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: which was a real because we weren't raising a lot

755
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: of money anyway. So we actually got to a stage

756
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: where we sold our house to keep the charity going

757
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 2: because we couldn't raise enough for the services and requests

758
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: we were coming in. Sorry to circle back when we're

759
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: trying to encourage charities to do more, charity started referring

760
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: kids to us.

761
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: Which is a nice reflection, reflection of the work that

762
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: you're doing and the value you're adding to the landscape,

763
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: but logistically difficult, very difficult. Thank you, Thank you for

764
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: recognizing work.

765
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: That's great. Maybe we should start not delivering our services

766
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: as quickly and then maybe we wouldn't get as many requests.

767
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: Or we could have some kind of commission referra all things.

768
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 2: Oh, that would have come very handy.

769
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Speaker 1: But I mean, this is the thing. I don't think

796
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Speaker 1: people understand that not for profit organizations are actually they

797
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: need to be run like a business. Is so the

798
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: fact that you have been around since nineteen ninety eight

799
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Speaker 1: is this other. I mean, the lifespan of any business

800
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Speaker 1: at the moment is like five years. So to have

801
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Speaker 1: lasted this long and flourished, having actually had to sell

802
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: your house along the way and done many different found

803
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Speaker 1: creative ways to fund what you've done and still be

804
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Speaker 1: here to tell the tale is an extraordinary achievement. Let

805
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Speaker 1: alone the fact that you've actually helped over eight million

806
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: people along the way.

807
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: Thank you. It is something that we reflect on regularly,

808
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: but it doesn't feel like twenty three years at all.

809
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: And when I'm talking to a lot of our supporters

810
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: and these people have been in careers, I think the

811
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: longest career that anyone has had a lot of contact

812
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: with is around that thirty thirty five year mark, which

813
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: is a long time for a career. But a lot

814
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: of these careers have been jobs that people have gone

815
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: to and they've stayed at and they've made it work.

816
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: But as you were saying that, the business life is

817
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: around that five years, so we've gone through a lot

818
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: of challenges, but we've always kept our eye on well

819
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: what are we here for? What do we have to do?

820
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: And even through the scary time. So we got down

821
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: to ninety three dollars left in the bank, which was

822
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: very tough look emotionally physically, it was a daily drain

823
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: to think, how are we going to get through this?

824
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: And I've I always pay my bills in advance, again

825
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: I suppose from very basic bookkeeping skills, but knowing how

826
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: to manage your accounts and make sure everything's paid up.

827
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: When we got down to literally the ninety three dollars,

828
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: I'd paid everything in advance anyway, So we had about

829
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: a month or six weeks personal rent, the office rent,

830
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: the post office box, all these things were paid up.

831
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: So that okay, so we'll just a little bit more

832
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: mincemeat and a little bit more rice, but sort of

833
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: scrape and scrape, and then luckily enough, Neil Mitchell put

834
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: his hand up say well, what can we do to

835
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: help because we can't let the charity fold, and which

836
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: was it was inevitable. We saw, you know, this terrible

837
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: thing on the horizon, and the thing was breaking our

838
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: hearts was if it folds, no one else is doing

839
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: this work. And it was this in two thousand and two,

840
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: so even now look at it still brings up that

841
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: raw emotion. We were more upset that we couldn't raise

842
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: enough money or get enough support to help kids that

843
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: no one was helping. So was that beyond frustrating. And

844
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: luckily when we're on air, the community spoke, they wanted

845
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: to get behind us, and it was one hundred and

846
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: fifty grand they raised in three and a half hours.

847
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: And it was I use the term emotional rollercoaster a lot.

848
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: But that day, literally at the start of the day,

849
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: we're thinking, well, it's overlook, we might get a couple

850
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: of thousand dollars, you know, we don't know. And then

851
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: when it ended, thinking wow, we can help the kids again,

852
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: I kind of it was huge, just huge, And again

853
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: that's got Francis's I suppose look on my left hand side,

854
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: I was thinking him. But that day when people stood

855
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: up and got behind us, and it hasn't changed. Look

856
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: since then, the momentum has been amazing. People just come

857
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: out because they see well wearing it for the long run.

858
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: And it's not a five year business. This is you know,

859
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: we come up to a quarter of a century soon.

860
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, quarter cent you know that's that's going

861
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: to that'll be a podcasts and a half.

862
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: Well, you had better get your DJ skills out for

863
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: that party.

864
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: We have to.

865
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: So tell us what are some of the things that

866
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Speaker 1: you're the most proud of that you do do in

867
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: your work, because there are so many different ways that

868
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: you support six children and their families, And one of

869
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: the biggest things that does always stand out is that

870
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: it's regardless of the illness of the condition. It's not

871
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: specific to one limited area, which those charities are so important.

872
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: But I love that you guys have been a much

873
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: broader service. But there are a couple of things you

874
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: do that I think are absolutely amazing. The distraction boxes,

875
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: which you showed me last time, which I got very

876
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: distructed with myself. The TLC Ambulance is an amazing initiative

877
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: and so exciting that it's back on the road. We

878
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: did trackid AC day a couple of years ago. Like,

879
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: there's so many things going on that again, I think

880
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: the more you talk about them and the more people

881
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: hear about them, people do actually want to rally around

882
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: the things that you're doing. And you provide such a

883
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: wonderful way to connect people in need with people who

884
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: are willing to help but don't otherwise know how, because

885
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: not everyone can start their own charity, and I think

886
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: if we did, you know, that would be reinventing the

887
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: world way too many times. And the admin cost that

888
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: we're going to it, it's just, yeah, a whole thing there.

889
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: What are some of the things you're doing and what

890
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: are some of the ways anyone listening could get involved

891
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: in those?

892
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 2: I think, and as you pointed out that the things

893
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: that make me super proud is when we hear the

894
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: results of our work from the healthcare professionals. Obviously getting

895
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: the feedback from the families. It's lovely, but it's never

896
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: been a well we we need to hear someone give

897
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: us praise because we're here to do a job. And

898
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: when we get the feedback from the hospitals about how

899
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 2: successful the distraction boxes have been, how they've helped kids

900
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: through procedures, take away that fear I've got. You know,

901
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: I've always been not super happy to have a needle.

902
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: It's not your favorite experience or favorite experience, do you know,

903
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: Nick faints?

904
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: Oh I almost did. I've stopped. Now you know you've

905
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: mastered it. I've mastered it destruction. I've my own skills

906
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: that we're teaching all these hospitals and these kids. So ah, oh,

907
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: that's why you use a distraction so you get distracted

908
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: from them doing something to you that you don't really

909
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: want to happen.

910
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a lot of science in the behind

911
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: the boxes and the specific toys that you put in them,

912
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: isn't there.

913
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely? And that again getting that feedback from the hospital

914
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: staff of what's needed, how the toys and the items

915
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 2: can be used. So it's very it's got a medical

916
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: and therapeutic purpose, so they're not just a fluffy toy

917
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: for the sake of it. But that's something I'm super

918
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: proud of because it started in two thousand and three,

919
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: we went national in two thousand and five with the

920
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: services and now we're in New Zealand as well, so

921
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: it's look an official international charity, So something you get

922
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: super proud of to see that it's working and make

923
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: a huge difference to literally that service has helped millions

924
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: of kids, which is just it blows me away to

925
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: think those numbers and this all started from I want

926
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: to help one more kid after Francis. So when I

927
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: see that as numbers.

928
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: Just blows you away.

929
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: My god, I get quite choked up about it, thinking

930
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: this is so much bigger than and it's not what

931
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: I'm doing. Incredible team, incredible board, incredible organization that I'm

932
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: part of, and that's how I feel so well. This

933
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 2: is you know, we're a movement now and it's something

934
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: it is and you touched on that earlier, but it's

935
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: a legacy that this is going to be so fantastic

936
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: to see because this thing's going to be here for

937
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: years doing great work. So that's something I'm super proud

938
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: of our rapid service is something that it doesn't get

939
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: a lot of light in the community because it's still

940
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: the sticky end, and you know, it's the pointing end

941
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: of the stick because it's helping out families who d

942
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: HHS abuse victims. Children have gone through terrible, terrible situations

943
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 2: that we can be there for them and help them out.

944
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: So we don't really publicly talk about a lot of

945
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 2: the requests that we get in the nicer ones. For sure,

946
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: we share those stories. I'm really proud that back in

947
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight we started because the referrals were coming

948
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: in for kids in need, and that's still what we're doing,

949
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: so that hasn't changed in twenty three years, and it's

950
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: the same process. Request comes in, we help that kid

951
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: on the same day or within forty eight hours, so

952
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: it's really fast.

953
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: So that's if they call and a charge has been

954
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: removed from the home and need.

955
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah accommodation because sadly, a lot of these kids do

956
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 2: end up in hospital and that's where the hospital staff

957
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: will notify us to say this child's literally either been

958
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: dumped at the hospital by a family and first time

959
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: I heard that, I was quite confronted, but within literally

960
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: split second, I was thinking, okay, so we have a

961
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: great habit always put yourself in someone else's shoes, And

962
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: I thought, okay, so that's terrible that the child was

963
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: left there. But how lucky was it that that child

964
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: was left there in the care of a hospital. Oh yeah,

965
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: you wasn't side of the street or somewhere else. It

966
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: was in care. So at least the family took the

967
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: initiative to know, well, let's get that child a second chance.

968
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: And they're really hard cases for us to deal with,

969
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: and we make sure, Look, we get new clothes and

970
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of toys and a backpack and items of

971
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: that child. So wherever they end up with it is

972
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: foster care, wherever they've got their own things, which gives

973
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: them purpose and bit of ownership over something. It's very empowering.

974
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: And then when we launched the ambulance or TLC Ambulance

975
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: for me, it was Christmas all over again. We've been

976
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: working with kids in penative care again since day one,

977
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: but this is the first time we can actually take

978
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: those kids out of the respite care wherever they are

979
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: and get them to their treasure destination or safely and

980
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 2: you know with ambul Victoria paramedics driving the vehicle, but

981
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: just thinking this is just it. It's the for me,

982
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: it's the icing on the cake of what we have

983
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: because it's that full service from Bignos to help me

984
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: out the hospital to the end stage. We can be

985
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: there for that family for their entire journey. So it's

986
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: I just love it. And this is where I suppose

987
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: for people to get involved, even a just our marketing

988
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: manager is saying it's one of their goals is to

989
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: let's have a whold of educated advocates out there. So

990
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: once you hear about TLC for kids, you think, well, okay,

991
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: so you might not be might not be financially, it

992
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: might not be able to make a donation, but you

993
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: might know someone or you might know a service that

994
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 2: we might be able to tap into, or even talking

995
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: about it to raise the awareness of what we're doing.

996
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: And this is what I'm beyond grateful for this podcast.

997
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: And I'm just not going to stop talking about it now.

998
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to do it because this means that it's

999
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: opening up to another audience and if one person, and

1000
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: again this goes back to how many lessons I've learned

1001
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: how many experiences I've had. But one of our former

1002
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: chairs of our board, they did this campaign or that

1003
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: they're working with this company that was did a campaign faxing,

1004
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: but they literally do this random facts out to a

1005
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: few thousand people and they got a million dollar donation

1006
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: because it just happened to land on the right person's

1007
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: or fax machine at the right time. And as soon

1008
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: as she said, I thought, I'm stuck with that look.

1009
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 2: You don't know who you're talking to, but just has

1010
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 2: to be the right person one day. And I think

1011
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: Neil Mitchell is a great example of that because I

1012
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: met him, had the chat about what we're doing, and

1013
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: then he was the right person at the right time,

1014
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: and thought, well, what can I do? So anybody listening,

1015
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: they might say, you know what, I'm looking for a

1016
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: charity or thinking about doing something, get in touch and

1017
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: everything starts with the conversation. Absolutely everything starts with the conversation.

1018
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: And if anyone knew of someone who might be able

1019
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: to benefit from the ambulance or something like that, how

1020
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: does that work? Do you put in a request or

1021
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: a submission for a child who does want to get

1022
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: out of the hospital and go on a little adventure.

1023
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: Well, at this stage we're working with a few look

1024
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: through Pelative Care Australia, so a few organizations are working

1025
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: with the kids so they're in contact with them and

1026
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: then if a child's in their care now they know

1027
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: this is an extra service, so we will. We don't

1028
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: take requests from the public for the services that we have.

1029
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: It's always through the healthcare professionals, which helps. There's two

1030
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: parts behind it. So number one means that it's a

1031
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: very genuine need for the child and it's what they

1032
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: need immediately. And second part is because we don't have

1033
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: an abundance of funding, so we're still because we're not

1034
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: government funded, so we're still raising funds through very kind donations.

1035
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: Actually in saying that through the pandemic and I know

1036
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: we're still through it now. But our regular givers are

1037
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: the core of our database who have been helping us

1038
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: out for nineteen or eighteen years, have been involved. The

1039
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: donations they are giving did not change, so you know,

1040
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 2: these people are losing jobs, income was dropped, Our regular

1041
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: givers did not stop giving to us, and it's something

1042
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: we actually got teary about it so many times last year,

1043
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: thinking these people care and they've gone out of their

1044
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: way to make sure we can be there for Famili

1045
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: because we didn't stop our through the whole pandemic. So

1046
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: it's beautiful to see that all these people stepped up and.

1047
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: That your service gave valuable enough that everyone wants it

1048
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: to keep going and they won't. They think it is

1049
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: valuable enough to make sure it keeps getting funded.

1050
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, which we're just so grateful for. And that's again

1051
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: that I suppose goes back to why we can't have

1052
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: requests come from just of course the public. One day

1053
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: our ultimate goal will be if we've got the funding

1054
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: that we need, it'll be an open book. Whoever needs it,

1055
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: they just get the support. But I think we're a

1056
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: little way off that.

1057
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: Well, I'll sell my yacht that we're on right now

1058
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: and that can go towards.

1059
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: Of course.

1060
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: That we timeshare. What are some of the coolest things

1061
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: that you've done with the ambulance, Like some of the

1062
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: coolest trips you've taken kids on.

1063
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: It's actually surprising. The zoo, which is so lovely were

1064
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: We Zoo, Melbourne Zoo, Calm with Children's Farm and beautiful

1065
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: Chesterfield Farm which is kids and animals. You know, you

1066
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: never work with them, so you go straight to the zoo,

1067
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: straight to the zoo with a kid. But they love it,

1068
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: and the feedback from the family is just the beautiful

1069
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: I suppose byproduct that's happened from the ambulance tripers. We

1070
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 2: want to make sure the family have a great time.

1071
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: But the feedback we're getting from the families saying this

1072
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: is the first time they actually get to spend time

1073
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: as a normal family, not worrying about the illness of

1074
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: their child, because that's not the focus of the day.

1075
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: They actually get to experience the things that everyone else

1076
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: gets to experience. It's just beautiful to see how much

1077
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: they appreciate it. And even for the ambulance drivers because

1078
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: they don't get the time to spend with their you know,

1079
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 2: when they're on call and they're doing their job and

1080
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: they're looking after the care of their patients, so rushed

1081
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: and stressed, but they've got to keep their calm, and

1082
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: then when they get them to hospital, they go through

1083
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: tree hours and they're off to the next case.

1084
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: They don't get to spend time with them at all.

1085
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: No, so the feedback we've already got is saying this

1086
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 2: has been life changing for them really good for their

1087
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: mental health because they're not in that stressful fight or

1088
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: flight situation. This is how I get to talk to

1089
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: you about, well, you know, what are your what are

1090
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: your favorite things to do? What do you think of

1091
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: that animal? Isn't this a really nice day? And just

1092
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: the normal conversations. So we've got a there's a couple

1093
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: of trips coming up. One little girl wants to have

1094
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: some ice cream.

1095
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: Hope not out of.

1096
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: A no, no, those days behind me.

1097
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: That's the best place. I don't believe it, and.

1098
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't think rocking up. No, Actually, that's that's a

1099
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: good point though about the ambulance and what makes this different.

1100
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 2: So the kids, most of the time, the last experience

1101
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: inside an ambulance wouldn't be positive or pleasant, even if

1102
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 2: it was just purely patient transport. There's a reason why

1103
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 2: they're in that ambulance, so it's not like, oh, I'm

1104
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: really looking forward to this. So we've transformed the ambulance

1105
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: into something that number one looks great, looks cute on

1106
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: the road, it looks so cute blue, But inside we

1107
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: actually got interchangeable themes. So whatever the kids are into,

1108
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: be it monster zinc or bubbles, or the zoo or underwater.

1109
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 2: These kids actually get immersed into that experience, so when

1110
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: they go inside it, it doesn't look like an ambulance at all.

1111
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: So their last memory of being in the TLC ambulance

1112
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: is one of fun, and that's what we want to

1113
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: leave and le that with the family. So it was

1114
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 2: such a beautiful well, I.

1115
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: Don't think anyone will blame me for doing this, even

1116
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: though I do it all the time of running the

1117
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: first section for the whole entire episode, because this story

1118
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: has been so interesting and uplifting and amazing, and you

1119
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: inspire me every single time I talk to you. But

1120
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to just quickly run through the other two sections.

1121
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: I promise I won't take up too of your time. Literally,

1122
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: there are three sections, and I've just used the whole

1123
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: episode on one of them, but the story is just

1124
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: so interesting and inspiring. A quick one is Natia, which

1125
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: we have kind of weaved into the story, but it's

1126
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: all the barriers to your joy along the way, and

1127
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: I imagine for you a big one is compassion fatigue

1128
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: working with your partner. Probably from our experience anyway, I

1129
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: know it makes it harder to impose boundaries, especially if

1130
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: you're working from home last year, because the same person

1131
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: you're in partnership with in life is also your partner

1132
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: in business, and that makes the boundaries that prevent and

1133
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: help compassion fatigue or any kind of fatigue be better.

1134
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: But I also loved watching your Ted talk on finding

1135
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: your cause to smile, and it also made me wonder

1136
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: do you ever not smile? And how do you work

1137
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: through those days where it does get a bit much.

1138
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: You do work with very heavy stories. You must be

1139
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: exhausted a lot of the time. It can be frustrating

1140
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: coming up against haters or people who will criticize no

1141
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: matter what you're doing. How have you managed that in

1142
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: this job, which I can imagine is more all consuming

1143
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: than the average job.

1144
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: A lot of this comes back again very grateful for

1145
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: the life I have and I don't have regrets, which

1146
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: is something that I was taught years ago. But if

1147
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: you can live a life without regret, it's healthy for

1148
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: your soul. And if you do have something that you

1149
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: might potentially regret, make sure you fix it and go

1150
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: on and do something about it. So when I was

1151
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: taught not to carry that baggage, because the example was like,

1152
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: if you're driving on the freeway and then you get

1153
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: cut off by somebody and you yell at them, and

1154
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: that ruined your whole day. They just cut someone off

1155
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: that they probably didn't even know they cut off, and

1156
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: they've gone on with their day and they might be

1157
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: having the best day of their lives. Think, go, okay,

1158
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: so I'm going to choose to spend my day and

1159
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: be upset about it. Or it could be like the

1160
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: person who just cut me off because it might have

1161
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: been an accident. It happened, so it's in the past.

1162
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: Can't change your past. I look at the future, well,

1163
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: that's fantastic. You go towards it can't change that though.

1164
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: The only thing I can do is here and now

1165
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: in the present. That's the only time we all have.

1166
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: So i'vewise looked at You've got to have an abundance

1167
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: of energy. Look at if there's a positive spin to

1168
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: anything you're doing, look for it. Find that silver lining,

1169
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: because even in the darkest of times, there is always light.

1170
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: And it's been quite funny, it's been this term keeps

1171
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: on coming up a lot lately. But you know, the

1172
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: light needs a darkness when things are heavy. Always look at, well,

1173
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: what have we been able to do with that for

1174
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: that family, how do we make their lives a bit

1175
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: better and happier? Have we been able to contribute to that?

1176
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: So by focusing on that, that's got me through a

1177
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: lot of these very dark times. You know, yes, we

1178
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: could use a hell of lot more money to do

1179
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: what we do. And even at the moment, like it's

1180
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: over a million times a year we're helping kids, but

1181
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: that could be so many more. So instead of allowing

1182
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: it to upset me and bring you down, I use that, Well,

1183
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: that's a bit of motivation. So how am I going

1184
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: to get there?

1185
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: Then?

1186
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: Working with Anna, which is I suppose most circumstances, living

1187
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 2: and working with your partner, it can have its frustrations,

1188
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 2: but we're found because we've got this. We just clicked.

1189
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: Even when we met each other, it wasn't like, oh

1190
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: my god, the love at first sight and all the

1191
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: the bells and whistles, Oh you know, very core person.

1192
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: I was so great sense of humor. But she was

1193
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: helping kids. I was doing the same. So I think

1194
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: we just, you know, the sliding doors moment. We just

1195
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: had to meet at the right time because the journey

1196
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 2: we've been on has been very heavy. Sadly, is probably

1197
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: a lot more heaviness than the good things, but we

1198
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: only talk about the good things. But we've been able

1199
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: to get through that together, and I don't think i'd

1200
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 2: have the same life that I've got if I didn't

1201
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: have her as my partner because we've been able to

1202
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: share the highs which have been phenomenal, and those lows

1203
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: to work through what do we have to do to

1204
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: boost each other's energy up and be there for each other.

1205
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: So it's it's probably a pretty unique position. But the

1206
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: thing that I do always as well look for the

1207
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: positive out of it, and if there's one percent out

1208
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: of ninety nine percent that's going to be positive, we'll

1209
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: look at that, look at that.

1210
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: I love that because I think we also get very

1211
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: passive to our thoughts and feelings and forget that not

1212
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: always and it's not always good to push aside negative emotions.

1213
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes you do need to sit with them, but you

1214
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: do have a bit more control and choice over them

1215
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: than you think, and that can make all the difference

1216
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: making a decision that I'm going to focus on that

1217
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: one percent rather than be engulfed completely by the ninety nine.

1218
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that control that saying, which is just absolutely love.

1219
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: You know, you worry about the things you are in

1220
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: control of, and I think the pandemic has been a

1221
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: fantastic example of that too. So built it's out of

1222
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: our control. You know, the powers that be people are

1223
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: doing as much as they can to bring control. But

1224
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: if you're going to sit there and worry about the

1225
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: things that you physically cannot control or take part in,

1226
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: you're not going to get anywhere, and you'll know to

1227
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: be this washing machine of stress that you're not going

1228
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: to see the end of.

1229
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: So I call it a rocking chair. There's a quote

1230
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: worrying is like a rocking chair. It gives you something

1231
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: to do, but it doesn't get you anywhere. I like that, right,

1232
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, you are just rocking back and

1233
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: forth in this pretty uncomfortable chair.

1234
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: You start feeling.

1235
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:18,439
Speaker 1: On my yosh.

1236
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1237
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: It was worth it if it's on my yosh. The

1238
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: very last section is Playta, which is the section that

1239
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: kind of stoops back the part of us that is productive,

1240
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: that is achievement focused, that's busy and doing stuff and

1241
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: that's successful. And you know I usually ask people around

1242
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: this section, you know, how is your relationship to success

1243
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: and to the metrics that you use to measure your

1244
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: life changed over time. But I think it's very clear

1245
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: what your relationship is to success and how you define

1246
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: fulfillment and joy, what that is and how that comes

1247
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: through in your work. But I would love to know

1248
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: the part of you that is completely separate to TLC.

1249
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: If there is a part that you kind of quarantine

1250
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: for want of a better word, for your elf, for

1251
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: just pleasure, for letting yourself forget what time it is

1252
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: and letting your inner child back out. What are the

1253
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: things that you love to do to play.

1254
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: I used to play the piano a lot, and I'm

1255
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: picking that up again, very lucky, and it got me

1256
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: a new piano for Father's Day. It must be three

1257
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 2: years ago, now.

1258
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on last you didn't count, so three or

1259
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: might be two years.

1260
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I take a lot of joy in that

1261
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: creation I have In the past, I've created and composed

1262
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: a lot of music. So I did a lot of

1263
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah so we used to do a lot of look

1264
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: atmospheric meditation music. Have also done a lot of rap music.

1265
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 2: Job done music. I find a lot of joy in

1266
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: that and everything. I mean, I'll pull up I've got

1267
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: a couple of apps on my iPad that let me

1268
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: mix music and things like that, so God, I dabble

1269
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: in that and that brings a lot of instantaneous joy

1270
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: for me. And the thing that I like about especially

1271
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: with the piano, because you have to be there.

1272
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: It's mutually exclusive with any other activity. It needs all

1273
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: your hands, all your brain and.

1274
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: The little thing. Oh my god, this hurts so much.

1275
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: I hope it sounds okay, but I mean a lot

1276
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: of paint like the rocking Horse. Yeah, but I do

1277
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: find that that's that's my little sort of happy place.

1278
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: And I don't want this to come across this corner,

1279
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: but literally spending time with Anna again, with just her company,

1280
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: is also my happy place. So it's you know, it

1281
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: doesn't make a corner at all.

1282
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: It's beautiful.

1283
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and again that's why I feel very lucky,

1284
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: because it's just a means that no matter where we are, well,

1285
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: I can be happy even when things are a bit tough.

1286
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: So if we're together, that's the switch off from the world.

1287
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: And you know, every now and then, because things do

1288
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: get a bit heavy, you lock the front door with there. Okay,

1289
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: So bye by word for a little bit. We're just

1290
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: be in our own space, and I find that that's

1291
01:04:58,680 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: happy for me.

1292
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: That's so sweet. She's a lucky girl. She's listening. I'm

1293
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Speaker 1: like you saying this because she's listening so lovely. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I just outed you. Second last question, what are three

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Speaker 1: interesting things about you that don't normally come up in

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Speaker 1: interviews or conversation. And people sometimes struggle with this one

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but I would say, like, what's something

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01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: Anna knows about you that everyone else wouldn't, Like weird

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Speaker 1: sleeping habits, or like funny kind of party tricks, like

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01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: the things that make that help people know you better

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01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: as a person, not just through your work, but like

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01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: the weird things that you do.

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Speaker 2: I like telling not telling jokes, but being funny, so

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: always try and find the humor out of literally everything.

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Speaker 1: I like being funny too. I'm not funny, though, so

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Speaker 1: that's a problem. It's a difficulty. Well, Nick reminds me

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Speaker 1: every day. It's like you just I know you like it,

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Speaker 1: You're just not funny. So thanks for supporting my dreams.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Nick.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm hysterical, but I think yes.

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Speaker 2: Sarah anyway, And Nick, Sarah knows where you live just

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Speaker 2: see you know. But yeah, so I'd say always trying

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01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: to get a laugh out of people, and not even

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01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 2: make people happy, even if it's my own expense. I

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01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: don't mind, because the ideas will you just if you've

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01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: had a good time, great, And it's almost like a

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Speaker 2: George the stands a thing you make someone laugh, that's it.

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Speaker 1: You leave the room, that net happiness has lifted. So

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01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: we're okay, We're okay.

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Speaker 2: So I'd say that because most people, even though we

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01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: might have had a few laughs, but that's probably a

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: big thing that I try and do as elfen as

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Speaker 2: you can. They're great.

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Speaker 1: What's the third?

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Speaker 2: What is the third? I released a CD no in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four. It was called Dreams Become Reality.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you need to give this to me

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Speaker 1: so I can put the audio together with the episode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I will a copy of that, so it's it

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01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: was inspired. I was reading Stephen King's book The Stand

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01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: and one of the characters he said he was in

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01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 2: his car driving along you turn on the radio and

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: it was his song. And I read this book in

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01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one and I thought, how cool would that

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01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: be if you were in a car driving you turn

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: on the radio and it's your song, not saying you know,

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01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: tickets on me, but that'd be pretty cool because that

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01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 2: means you're on the radio. So I thought, well, I

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01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: want that to happen, so you.

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Speaker 1: Do get shipped done, don't you.

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01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: Well I had to, so I remember, I remember the

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01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: day that it happened, recorded the song and went to

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Speaker 2: the studio and all that sort of stuff, and it

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01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: was pretty exciting, and I got the old The first

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01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: thing or released was a cassette.

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Speaker 1: A side B side, nice, there was just.

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Speaker 2: An A side and that it did progress and then

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01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: it had a little mini thing was EP that six

1349
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: tracks it was on the CD, so that was out there.

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Speaker 2: Oh this is fantastic, And I got into a few

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01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: record shops and it wasn't JB High, but it's like

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 2: the equivalent of. And then I moved up to Queensland

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Speaker 2: for a while and when I was living up there,

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01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: took my CD with me as well and took it

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: to the local shops and local radio station and I

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01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: tried to some self publicity sort of didn't go anywhere

1357
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 2: that that's okay, but the local record shops got it,

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01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: so I'm happy with that. And then I moved back

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01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: to Melbourne and I've got a phone call from one

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01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: of my friends from Queensland. He said, I'll listen to

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01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 2: this and he playing my song. I thought, oh, that's

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 2: really nice because he's he's playing the song on the

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01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 2: CD at home on y stereo because I gave him

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Speaker 2: the CD. Anyway, because I keep listening, keep listening. He

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Speaker 2: plays a second track. You're playing my CD. Thanks very much,

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Speaker 2: he said, And then the radio announcer comes on. It

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Speaker 2: was DJ BBOPHI Dreams became reality number two on the charts.

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01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's funny. So that was my Oh

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01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: I'll tick that off. I'm very happy with that. So

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01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: not a lot of people know I did that back then,

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01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: was the DJ name and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so, oh you'll have to pass.

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Speaker 1: There are no things that this man has not high

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01:08:58,840 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: achieved that.

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Speaker 2: It's all just fun.

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: It was just fun and very last question, what's your

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01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:06,520
Speaker 1: favorite quote.

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01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 2: From Bryce Courtney. I say this all the time. I've

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Speaker 2: got it written down, It's on my LinkedIn all that

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01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,799
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. It's a waterfall starts with a single

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01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 2: drop of water. I use that as the ultimate description

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Speaker 2: when you're talking to someone if you want change to happen,

1383
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 2: if you want anything to happen, if you want anything

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01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: Number one. As I was saying before, everything starts with

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01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: a conversation and comes back to baby steps. But when

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Speaker 2: you think about the idea of a waterfall with a

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Speaker 2: single drop of water, you think that is billions of

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: drops of water to make this beautiful thing happen. And

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01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: I live by it, So we'll just everyone you talk to,

1390
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: which sometimes comes across the wrong way, because that's fantastic.

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01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 2: It's another drip, but it's a drip towards a beautiful waterfall.

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01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: So that's I love it, living live and love that quote.

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Speaker 1: And it comes back to the baby steps saying that

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: you were saying before. It all ties together.

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01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: All ties together. Life is like a circle. It is

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01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: like a little circle.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well, thank you so much, Tim, This

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01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: has been absolutely wonderful. You are such an inspiration. I

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01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: can't wait to do more with TLC and hopefully get

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Speaker 1: some of the neighborhood on board as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. This is beyond an honor,

1402
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: the utmost respect for you. You are changing lives. It's very

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01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 2: entertaining and it's you become an incredible voice for so

1404
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 2: many people, so many causes, so many inspirational people as well,

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01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: that again inspire other people. So you know, you started

1406
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: your own waterfall with a whole little drops, your own waterfall.

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01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: It's a ya fall.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what's what's a water word that has yeah

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Speaker 1: in it? Like a yeake, like a lake yatiful.

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01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: Falls into the this is I think we're losing everyone.

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Speaker 1: Like see, I told you try to be funny, and

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Speaker 1: it's just like, just stop, just stop. You were doing

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Speaker 1: well before, so close, so close, Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Oh my gosh, I was half

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01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: smiling and half welling up that whole time. What a

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01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: beautiful human being, right. I would love you to show

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01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: Tim some love if you enjoyed listening along or learned

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01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: anything about TLC's incredible work, sharing and tagging at Tim

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01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: Canolan or at TLC for kids and myself so we

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01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 1: can share the ya. If anyone would be interested in

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01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: getting involved in a yighborhood event or initiative for TLC,

1422
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: please let me know. I've been buzzing with ideas. There's

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Speaker 1: a fabulous campaign coming up that I'll share very soon

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01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: that we can all get involved with together. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having an amazing week and are seizing

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Speaker 1: your YA