1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,584 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,304 --> 00:00:28,264 Speaker 3: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop 5 00:00:28,304 --> 00:00:29,064 Speaker 3: culture fix. 6 00:00:29,384 --> 00:00:31,624 Speaker 2: I'm em Vernon and I'm Laura Brednick. 7 00:00:31,784 --> 00:00:32,664 Speaker 3: Happy Monday. 8 00:00:33,064 --> 00:00:35,424 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's anything very happy about a Monday, but. 9 00:00:35,464 --> 00:00:37,664 Speaker 3: Well it wasn't a week last week. We did six 10 00:00:37,744 --> 00:00:38,864 Speaker 3: episodes last week. 11 00:00:39,024 --> 00:00:39,464 Speaker 2: That's true. 12 00:00:39,544 --> 00:00:41,544 Speaker 3: We had a little extra week and watch for you, 13 00:00:41,704 --> 00:00:43,384 Speaker 3: just for you if you missed it, We'll link that 14 00:00:43,424 --> 00:00:45,384 Speaker 3: in our show notes so you can go back and listen. 15 00:00:45,744 --> 00:00:47,664 Speaker 3: But we have a big show today. On the show, 16 00:00:47,864 --> 00:00:50,664 Speaker 3: we are talking about a brand new update that's come 17 00:00:50,704 --> 00:00:54,264 Speaker 3: from the Sean Combs p Diddy K so that involves 18 00:00:54,344 --> 00:00:57,064 Speaker 3: jay Z. We're going to dissect all of that. Plus 19 00:00:57,104 --> 00:01:01,064 Speaker 3: a beloved Hollywood actress has had a coworker call her 20 00:01:01,144 --> 00:01:04,504 Speaker 3: a tyrant on a show and that's completely blown up. 21 00:01:04,944 --> 00:01:06,064 Speaker 3: We break it down for you. 22 00:01:06,264 --> 00:01:10,304 Speaker 2: But first, but first, Saturday Night Live Over the Weekends 23 00:01:10,344 --> 00:01:14,104 Speaker 2: celebrated being on air for fifty years, which is very impressive, 24 00:01:14,424 --> 00:01:18,344 Speaker 2: by airing a special event called SNL fifty, The anniversary special, 25 00:01:18,744 --> 00:01:21,864 Speaker 2: and it had the majority of their old cast members, 26 00:01:21,944 --> 00:01:25,624 Speaker 2: really iconic people, past hosts, past musical guests from the 27 00:01:25,664 --> 00:01:28,464 Speaker 2: last five decades all coming together to the studio for 28 00:01:28,544 --> 00:01:32,064 Speaker 2: a big night of like comedy sketches and musical performances. 29 00:01:32,504 --> 00:01:34,384 Speaker 2: And it was kind of like the concert to end 30 00:01:34,384 --> 00:01:36,904 Speaker 2: all concerts and like all the appearances. So you had 31 00:01:36,984 --> 00:01:40,504 Speaker 2: all these iconic former SNL cast members like Chevy Chase, 32 00:01:40,704 --> 00:01:44,424 Speaker 2: Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, Amy Poehler, Will Ferrell, Andy Samberg, 33 00:01:44,464 --> 00:01:47,264 Speaker 2: Kristin Wig, Tina Fey. I mean, the list goes on 34 00:01:47,264 --> 00:01:49,664 Speaker 2: and on all at the event, a lot of them 35 00:01:49,704 --> 00:01:55,224 Speaker 2: reprising iconic characters. So many musical guests share The Backstreet Boys, well, 36 00:01:55,504 --> 00:01:57,224 Speaker 2: I just saw was a many people getting excited about that. 37 00:01:57,344 --> 00:01:59,984 Speaker 3: Backstreet Boys, we were a good one. The surviving members 38 00:02:00,024 --> 00:02:02,664 Speaker 3: of Nirvana, Yeah, that was amazing. Post Malone as the 39 00:02:02,744 --> 00:02:05,024 Speaker 3: leads stead that was so good. Press Moline can do 40 00:02:05,064 --> 00:02:06,144 Speaker 3: like any genre he wants. 41 00:02:06,264 --> 00:02:08,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, the musical guests were iconic. I'm going to sit 42 00:02:08,224 --> 00:02:09,984 Speaker 2: down and watch the full special when it does come 43 00:02:10,024 --> 00:02:10,184 Speaker 2: to be. 44 00:02:10,224 --> 00:02:13,144 Speaker 3: In those celebrities are so lucky they've just seen like 45 00:02:13,264 --> 00:02:17,504 Speaker 3: reunion after reunion of these iconic bands and singers and 46 00:02:17,544 --> 00:02:18,464 Speaker 3: then just staying on. 47 00:02:18,464 --> 00:02:21,464 Speaker 2: Stage and having the time of their lives. Usually those 48 00:02:21,704 --> 00:02:24,464 Speaker 2: kind of things like award shows like the Grammys or concerts, 49 00:02:24,744 --> 00:02:27,184 Speaker 2: the camera pans are celebrities and they're so worried about 50 00:02:27,224 --> 00:02:28,704 Speaker 2: what their face is going to look like that they 51 00:02:28,704 --> 00:02:31,104 Speaker 2: just look quite dead pan, or they smile very politely. 52 00:02:31,424 --> 00:02:33,904 Speaker 2: But because there were so many iconic musical guests, every 53 00:02:33,904 --> 00:02:35,864 Speaker 2: time the camera paned to the audience, and the audience 54 00:02:35,904 --> 00:02:38,904 Speaker 2: is just celebrities far and wide, they were just having 55 00:02:38,904 --> 00:02:40,304 Speaker 2: the time of their lives in a way you don't 56 00:02:40,344 --> 00:02:40,824 Speaker 2: usually see. 57 00:02:40,864 --> 00:02:43,024 Speaker 3: It would be embarrassing if they didn't have fun. 58 00:02:43,304 --> 00:02:45,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. They were just like. 59 00:02:45,544 --> 00:02:49,104 Speaker 3: Sitting there like they're watching an orchestra playing, and like 60 00:02:49,184 --> 00:02:51,264 Speaker 3: Lady Gaga's on the stage, everyone's just like, oh, whatever, 61 00:02:51,304 --> 00:02:52,424 Speaker 3: you know, that would be embarrassing. 62 00:02:52,504 --> 00:02:56,384 Speaker 2: I feel like the MVP of the night was Paul Ruddy, 63 00:02:56,424 --> 00:02:59,064 Speaker 2: said Paul Rod. They kept the camera kept going to him. 64 00:02:59,344 --> 00:03:00,864 Speaker 2: He looked like one of those I don't know if 65 00:03:00,904 --> 00:03:02,904 Speaker 2: you've ever been in the studio for like a live 66 00:03:02,944 --> 00:03:06,144 Speaker 2: TV show being filmed, but they have audience plants all 67 00:03:06,144 --> 00:03:08,424 Speaker 2: of the time. They also have audience warm up people 68 00:03:08,464 --> 00:03:10,904 Speaker 2: who go around and like get the crowd all psyched 69 00:03:10,904 --> 00:03:12,944 Speaker 2: and tell them to dance, tell them to clap, And 70 00:03:12,984 --> 00:03:14,864 Speaker 2: they have special people to do that in the audience, 71 00:03:14,864 --> 00:03:17,064 Speaker 2: so when the camera pans to them, they have the 72 00:03:17,144 --> 00:03:20,864 Speaker 2: right energy that will translate across the screen to people's TVs. 73 00:03:21,144 --> 00:03:23,184 Speaker 2: And I feel like Paul Rudd was that because every 74 00:03:23,184 --> 00:03:25,864 Speaker 2: time the camera fan to him, he was so happy. 75 00:03:25,864 --> 00:03:26,544 Speaker 2: I've never seen here. 76 00:03:26,544 --> 00:03:27,824 Speaker 3: He looked like a proud father. 77 00:03:28,024 --> 00:03:32,224 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was up on his dressed like I don't 78 00:03:32,224 --> 00:03:34,464 Speaker 2: know what happened we dress code. 79 00:03:34,504 --> 00:03:37,304 Speaker 3: It felt like us whenever we go to a movie prepp. Yes, 80 00:03:37,544 --> 00:03:40,224 Speaker 3: like no one understands the dress code. It's like us 81 00:03:40,344 --> 00:03:43,304 Speaker 3: in like our work outfits. Yeah, like a black ensemble 82 00:03:43,344 --> 00:03:46,024 Speaker 3: of something and the city next to influences with the 83 00:03:46,104 --> 00:03:48,304 Speaker 3: ball gowns. You will walk into that room and you 84 00:03:48,344 --> 00:03:49,784 Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to guess what event this. 85 00:03:49,824 --> 00:03:51,824 Speaker 2: Is one hundred Oh my god. It was exactly like 86 00:03:51,864 --> 00:03:53,984 Speaker 2: the movie premiere as we go to because the red 87 00:03:54,024 --> 00:03:56,304 Speaker 2: carpet photos are so funny. You have someone like Paul 88 00:03:56,344 --> 00:03:58,024 Speaker 2: run and his wife who looks lovely, but they've got 89 00:03:58,064 --> 00:04:00,344 Speaker 2: like jeans and like flats and like jackets. They look 90 00:04:00,384 --> 00:04:02,264 Speaker 2: like they're just going to the movies on a Friday night. 91 00:04:02,664 --> 00:04:04,304 Speaker 3: They look like they're going on SML. 92 00:04:04,424 --> 00:04:04,584 Speaker 4: Yes. 93 00:04:05,144 --> 00:04:07,024 Speaker 2: And then you got someone like Aua Taylor Joy who 94 00:04:07,064 --> 00:04:10,984 Speaker 2: was in the full jab with feathers and full hair 95 00:04:11,024 --> 00:04:13,264 Speaker 2: and makeup and jewelry. She looked like she was going 96 00:04:13,264 --> 00:04:14,504 Speaker 2: to the Oscars. 97 00:04:14,024 --> 00:04:16,344 Speaker 3: And Amy Pola just and like her beetles like shirt 98 00:04:16,544 --> 00:04:18,344 Speaker 3: was like her slacks and a jacket. 99 00:04:18,504 --> 00:04:20,664 Speaker 2: But then Tina Fey is wearing a full like gold 100 00:04:20,744 --> 00:04:23,744 Speaker 2: cocktail dress with like all of these embellishments on it. 101 00:04:23,864 --> 00:04:25,424 Speaker 3: Yes, the brief was do what you want. 102 00:04:25,624 --> 00:04:28,624 Speaker 2: Something happened with the dress code. Interestingly about the audience 103 00:04:28,624 --> 00:04:32,344 Speaker 2: participation is that Miley Cyrus performed. She performed Flowers, and 104 00:04:32,384 --> 00:04:35,224 Speaker 2: she did a little callback to her Grammy's performance. So 105 00:04:35,264 --> 00:04:38,024 Speaker 2: when she won her first Grammy last year, she was 106 00:04:38,064 --> 00:04:41,024 Speaker 2: performing Flowers after she had won, so she was really 107 00:04:41,064 --> 00:04:44,624 Speaker 2: excited and she called out to the audience like, why 108 00:04:44,624 --> 00:04:47,064 Speaker 2: aren't you dancing? Get on your feet, don't pretend you 109 00:04:47,064 --> 00:04:49,744 Speaker 2: don't know the words. And at the SNL event, she's 110 00:04:49,784 --> 00:04:51,864 Speaker 2: singing along and I think she noticed that maybe some 111 00:04:51,904 --> 00:04:54,264 Speaker 2: people weren't singing with her, and she's like, what are 112 00:04:54,264 --> 00:04:56,224 Speaker 2: you guys? Trying to be like, you're at the Grammys. 113 00:04:57,184 --> 00:04:59,584 Speaker 3: Are y'all doing the Grammy thing where you guys are famous? 114 00:04:59,584 --> 00:05:02,104 Speaker 2: And shit, you don't sing along through my language? Come on, 115 00:05:04,024 --> 00:05:05,304 Speaker 2: see thank you don't. 116 00:05:05,624 --> 00:05:09,544 Speaker 3: It's so fair though, Like these singers, especially like this 117 00:05:09,664 --> 00:05:13,264 Speaker 3: generation singer, they're so used to their fans and stuff. 118 00:05:13,264 --> 00:05:15,864 Speaker 3: And I thought the same thing with Kendrick Lamar's performance 119 00:05:15,904 --> 00:05:18,944 Speaker 3: at the super Bowl was like, it's not just for 120 00:05:18,984 --> 00:05:21,424 Speaker 3: the celebrities, but it's also for like all their fans 121 00:05:21,424 --> 00:05:24,384 Speaker 3: who are watching from home, especially fans who can't afford 122 00:05:24,464 --> 00:05:26,904 Speaker 3: to maybe see them live. Like they're performing for all 123 00:05:26,944 --> 00:05:29,224 Speaker 3: those and there's nothing worse when you see your favorite 124 00:05:29,224 --> 00:05:32,504 Speaker 3: celebrity perform and the crowd is just sitting there. Yeah, 125 00:05:32,544 --> 00:05:34,904 Speaker 3: and you're like, what I would do to be in 126 00:05:34,904 --> 00:05:38,544 Speaker 3: that audience? So you know what, go like, she fucking rocks, 127 00:05:38,584 --> 00:05:41,224 Speaker 3: Like everyone's stand up and clap for Malesyrus that's what 128 00:05:41,264 --> 00:05:42,064 Speaker 3: everyone should have been doing. 129 00:05:42,104 --> 00:05:42,184 Speaker 1: Well. 130 00:05:42,224 --> 00:05:44,224 Speaker 2: I think the audience was people lost their minds when 131 00:05:44,264 --> 00:05:49,224 Speaker 2: Share came out, as they should seventy eight. She looks incredible, 132 00:05:49,384 --> 00:05:51,984 Speaker 2: voices the exact same. Yeah, it's crazy, it just was 133 00:05:52,064 --> 00:05:52,544 Speaker 2: just rocking. 134 00:05:52,664 --> 00:05:53,504 Speaker 3: She nailed it. 135 00:05:53,584 --> 00:05:53,984 Speaker 2: I loved it. 136 00:05:54,064 --> 00:05:56,664 Speaker 3: I love Lady Gaga. 137 00:05:55,744 --> 00:05:57,744 Speaker 2: And the Sad about your Favorite performances. 138 00:05:57,784 --> 00:06:00,184 Speaker 3: They were one of my favorites because I loved the 139 00:06:00,224 --> 00:06:03,344 Speaker 3: Lonely Island. Yeah, like they were my favorite. I think 140 00:06:03,384 --> 00:06:06,544 Speaker 3: that's when I first started like understanding what Senel really was. 141 00:06:06,744 --> 00:06:09,184 Speaker 3: Like I would buy the Lonely Island songs on iTunes 142 00:06:09,464 --> 00:06:12,064 Speaker 3: so I still have them saved. They were just so good, 143 00:06:12,104 --> 00:06:15,744 Speaker 3: like Michael Bolton won about part of Caribbean, so freaking good. 144 00:06:16,184 --> 00:06:19,304 Speaker 3: I loved the performance with Andy Samberg and Lady Gaga. 145 00:06:19,304 --> 00:06:22,104 Speaker 3: Andy Samberg can sing, like he actually can sing, but 146 00:06:22,224 --> 00:06:24,784 Speaker 3: they did a whole like a Star is Born duet 147 00:06:24,864 --> 00:06:26,824 Speaker 3: and he pretended that he couldn't do it, and Lady 148 00:06:26,824 --> 00:06:28,904 Speaker 3: Garg was like, yeah, this sucks. So then they started 149 00:06:28,904 --> 00:06:30,304 Speaker 3: singing Dick in the Box. 150 00:06:30,864 --> 00:06:39,384 Speaker 4: Okay special, so take a foot, take a inside, It's 151 00:06:39,464 --> 00:06:44,504 Speaker 4: my Dick and a Bucks. 152 00:06:44,624 --> 00:06:44,824 Speaker 2: Yeah. 153 00:06:44,864 --> 00:06:48,024 Speaker 3: It was so funny and like the opera rendition that 154 00:06:48,184 --> 00:06:50,984 Speaker 3: Bad Bunny did so funny. I loved how it wasn't 155 00:06:51,104 --> 00:06:55,384 Speaker 3: just like all A list pop stars or musicians, but 156 00:06:55,544 --> 00:06:58,584 Speaker 3: they also weaved in the cast members into the performances 157 00:06:58,624 --> 00:07:01,144 Speaker 3: as well, like Will Ferrell and a Geysta doing their 158 00:07:01,224 --> 00:07:03,664 Speaker 3: whole like husband and wife duo, that they was just 159 00:07:03,704 --> 00:07:07,024 Speaker 3: doing it and they like sang like Kendrick's distrack and 160 00:07:07,344 --> 00:07:10,424 Speaker 3: it was so funny. 161 00:07:12,424 --> 00:07:15,184 Speaker 4: They wanted to get your hand me down the party 162 00:07:15,184 --> 00:07:26,504 Speaker 4: playing those down right. Well, we're here around. 163 00:07:25,624 --> 00:07:27,544 Speaker 2: So so good. If you haven't watched it yet, highly 164 00:07:27,584 --> 00:07:29,704 Speaker 2: recommend it should be dropping on Binge in the next 165 00:07:29,784 --> 00:07:31,904 Speaker 2: couple of days. But he's a couple of hours long, 166 00:07:31,944 --> 00:07:33,744 Speaker 2: but it's worth a lot, so worth it. 167 00:07:35,704 --> 00:07:35,784 Speaker 1: So. 168 00:07:36,184 --> 00:07:39,704 Speaker 3: The lawsuit accusing jay Z of raping a thirteen year 169 00:07:39,704 --> 00:07:43,224 Speaker 3: old girl alongside Sean Combs in two thousand has now 170 00:07:43,424 --> 00:07:46,944 Speaker 3: been officially dismissed. It was an anonymous woman known as 171 00:07:47,024 --> 00:07:50,584 Speaker 3: Jane Doe who voluntarily withdrew her case on Friday in 172 00:07:50,664 --> 00:07:54,744 Speaker 3: New York and she can't file it again. After this happened, 173 00:07:54,824 --> 00:07:57,584 Speaker 3: Jay Z released a statement through rock Nation, which is 174 00:07:57,624 --> 00:08:01,144 Speaker 3: its entertainment company, and this is what he said today 175 00:08:01,304 --> 00:08:05,344 Speaker 3: is a victory. The frivolous, fictitious, and appalling allegations have 176 00:08:05,424 --> 00:08:08,984 Speaker 3: been dismissed. This civil suit was without merit and never 177 00:08:09,064 --> 00:08:12,864 Speaker 3: going anywhere. The fictional tale they created was laughable. If 178 00:08:12,904 --> 00:08:15,424 Speaker 3: not for the seriousness of the claims, I would not 179 00:08:15,464 --> 00:08:18,744 Speaker 3: wish this experience on anyone. The trauma that my wife, 180 00:08:18,784 --> 00:08:21,584 Speaker 3: my children, loved ones, and I have endured can never 181 00:08:21,624 --> 00:08:25,544 Speaker 3: be dismissed. This one eight hundred lawyer gets to file 182 00:08:25,584 --> 00:08:28,864 Speaker 3: a suit hiding behind Jane Doe, and when they quickly 183 00:08:28,944 --> 00:08:31,584 Speaker 3: realize that the money grab is going to fail, they 184 00:08:31,624 --> 00:08:35,184 Speaker 3: get to walk away with no repercussions. The system has failed. 185 00:08:35,744 --> 00:08:38,944 Speaker 3: The court must protect victims, of course, all in caps, 186 00:08:39,384 --> 00:08:42,584 Speaker 3: while with the same ethical responsibility, the courts must protect 187 00:08:42,624 --> 00:08:45,624 Speaker 3: the innocent from being accused without a shred of evidence. 188 00:08:46,264 --> 00:08:49,064 Speaker 3: May the truth prevail for all victims and those falsely 189 00:08:49,144 --> 00:08:53,344 Speaker 3: accused equally. This statement is so similar to the other 190 00:08:53,384 --> 00:08:56,304 Speaker 3: statements he's put out while this case was happening, especially 191 00:08:56,344 --> 00:08:58,824 Speaker 3: the whole this one eight hundred lawyer, Like you can 192 00:08:58,904 --> 00:09:02,584 Speaker 3: tell that he is so angry at Tony Busby, who's 193 00:09:02,624 --> 00:09:04,704 Speaker 3: the lawyer for a lot of the alleged victims in 194 00:09:04,784 --> 00:09:07,344 Speaker 3: this case against Sean Comb's. And I just want to 195 00:09:07,344 --> 00:09:09,744 Speaker 3: point out that jay Z's name has been removed from 196 00:09:09,784 --> 00:09:13,704 Speaker 3: this particular case, but the ongoing cases that accuse Sean 197 00:09:13,784 --> 00:09:16,944 Speaker 3: Combs of sexual violence are still ongoing and he's still 198 00:09:16,944 --> 00:09:21,184 Speaker 3: in jail. So jay Z's lawyer Alex Spiro also made 199 00:09:21,224 --> 00:09:24,384 Speaker 3: a strong statement saying that jay Z pushed back, never settled, 200 00:09:24,464 --> 00:09:27,144 Speaker 3: never paid one red penny, which was like a line 201 00:09:27,224 --> 00:09:29,504 Speaker 3: in one of his previous statements, and he said that 202 00:09:29,544 --> 00:09:33,024 Speaker 3: he triumphed. So, in case you forgot, the original claim 203 00:09:33,264 --> 00:09:35,864 Speaker 3: was that a woman claimed that she was assaulted at 204 00:09:35,904 --> 00:09:39,264 Speaker 3: an MTV Music Awards after party in New York, and 205 00:09:39,304 --> 00:09:42,304 Speaker 3: a few weeks after filing the lawsuits, she actually admitted 206 00:09:42,344 --> 00:09:45,024 Speaker 3: that there were some inconsistencies in her story, like saying 207 00:09:45,024 --> 00:09:47,304 Speaker 3: that there were celebrities there when they weren't there. There 208 00:09:47,344 --> 00:09:50,104 Speaker 3: was something about her dad being there and he couldn't recall. 209 00:09:50,664 --> 00:09:54,264 Speaker 3: Shawn Combs hasn't commented on this particular lawsuit being dropped, 210 00:09:54,584 --> 00:09:57,544 Speaker 3: and that's probably because he's in jail, but the others 211 00:09:57,544 --> 00:10:00,064 Speaker 3: are still very much active and he's still awaiting trial 212 00:10:00,104 --> 00:10:01,664 Speaker 3: that's going to be happening in May this year. 213 00:10:02,064 --> 00:10:04,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an uncomfortable one to talk about, and 214 00:10:04,144 --> 00:10:05,824 Speaker 2: I think a lot of that comes from the fact 215 00:10:05,904 --> 00:10:08,264 Speaker 2: that the grab that's been and the line that's been 216 00:10:08,304 --> 00:10:11,504 Speaker 2: taken from jay Z's statement of this is a victory 217 00:10:11,624 --> 00:10:14,464 Speaker 2: is what first line right splash, Yeah, is what's being 218 00:10:14,504 --> 00:10:17,104 Speaker 2: splashed across all the different new sides. There's the headline 219 00:10:17,104 --> 00:10:19,584 Speaker 2: a lot of people are using, and it's also got 220 00:10:19,704 --> 00:10:22,624 Speaker 2: Sean Combs and Sean Carter, so the two men accused 221 00:10:22,864 --> 00:10:24,504 Speaker 2: in a lot of the headlines together with this as 222 00:10:24,504 --> 00:10:27,144 Speaker 2: a victory, which is very misleading in terms of like 223 00:10:27,224 --> 00:10:31,024 Speaker 2: the Diddy Sean Comb's accusations, because as we're saying, he's 224 00:10:31,064 --> 00:10:33,424 Speaker 2: still in jail and he is still being accused by 225 00:10:33,944 --> 00:10:37,264 Speaker 2: multiple people of all these really horrific crimes. And the 226 00:10:37,344 --> 00:10:39,384 Speaker 2: reason those are going to trial is that there is 227 00:10:39,464 --> 00:10:41,184 Speaker 2: quite a lot of evidence there, and there's a lot 228 00:10:41,184 --> 00:10:43,184 Speaker 2: of the stories that are similar. There's a lot of 229 00:10:43,224 --> 00:10:45,704 Speaker 2: the facts of those cases that have been corroborated. Obviously 230 00:10:45,744 --> 00:10:47,584 Speaker 2: we won't know till it goes to trial, but I 231 00:10:47,624 --> 00:10:50,504 Speaker 2: think it's this idea of like celebrating something that actually 232 00:10:50,544 --> 00:10:53,104 Speaker 2: hasn't happened for him. The other side of like the 233 00:10:53,384 --> 00:10:56,344 Speaker 2: Sean Carter stuff, of the jay Z stuff is that 234 00:10:56,904 --> 00:10:58,824 Speaker 2: obviously we never knew if he was guilty or not, 235 00:10:58,864 --> 00:11:01,344 Speaker 2: Like that's not information we had. But I think also 236 00:11:01,384 --> 00:11:03,224 Speaker 2: the case being dismissed, there's just a few things to 237 00:11:03,264 --> 00:11:05,144 Speaker 2: kind of keep in mind here and not to keep 238 00:11:05,184 --> 00:11:07,264 Speaker 2: in mind of who's innocent and who's guilty, because we 239 00:11:07,544 --> 00:11:09,664 Speaker 2: literally don't have that information. We weren't there, it hasn't 240 00:11:09,664 --> 00:11:12,064 Speaker 2: gone to trials, so none of that information will come out. 241 00:11:12,224 --> 00:11:14,384 Speaker 2: But I just think that kind of understanding how these 242 00:11:14,424 --> 00:11:17,464 Speaker 2: things work is that this is a very powerful man. 243 00:11:17,544 --> 00:11:19,784 Speaker 2: He has a lot of money, and there was a 244 00:11:19,824 --> 00:11:21,944 Speaker 2: lot happening behind the scenes of this case. So this 245 00:11:22,024 --> 00:11:24,744 Speaker 2: anonymous woman that was coming for it. Obviously some of 246 00:11:24,784 --> 00:11:28,104 Speaker 2: the original facts that she said were misproven, but she 247 00:11:28,184 --> 00:11:31,384 Speaker 2: was still sticking to her story. But it's also had Also. 248 00:11:31,224 --> 00:11:33,944 Speaker 3: Part of those facts was that she felt that she 249 00:11:34,144 --> 00:11:36,704 Speaker 3: was drugged. Yeah, and it happened years ago. 250 00:11:37,064 --> 00:11:39,544 Speaker 2: Yes, Well, one that her father couldn't remember picking her up. 251 00:11:39,744 --> 00:11:41,664 Speaker 2: They're saying to this man, did you remember picking your 252 00:11:41,744 --> 00:11:43,864 Speaker 2: daughter up on this night ten years ago, which to him, 253 00:11:43,904 --> 00:11:47,184 Speaker 2: because he didn't know what happened, was a very nondescript night. Also, 254 00:11:47,264 --> 00:11:49,504 Speaker 2: she had named a few celebrities at the event she 255 00:11:49,544 --> 00:11:51,744 Speaker 2: went to, and then it was proven those celebrities weren't 256 00:11:51,784 --> 00:11:54,384 Speaker 2: in town. But they're very kind of like the surface 257 00:11:54,464 --> 00:11:57,024 Speaker 2: level facts. Again, we're not going into who's guilty and 258 00:11:57,024 --> 00:11:59,824 Speaker 2: who's not guilty. It's just that This is why these 259 00:11:59,864 --> 00:12:01,464 Speaker 2: cases are so hard to prove a lot of the 260 00:12:01,504 --> 00:12:03,304 Speaker 2: time and so hard to go to trial, is that 261 00:12:03,584 --> 00:12:06,784 Speaker 2: it's the onus of the alleged victim to prove all 262 00:12:06,824 --> 00:12:08,904 Speaker 2: of this stuff and have enough to take it to court. 263 00:12:09,224 --> 00:12:11,104 Speaker 2: And if there's a lot happening by behind the scenes, 264 00:12:11,144 --> 00:12:14,544 Speaker 2: with like threats and money and stuff, they can sometimes 265 00:12:14,624 --> 00:12:15,784 Speaker 2: not go to court. 266 00:12:15,304 --> 00:12:19,544 Speaker 3: And it is a difference between having a case dismissed 267 00:12:19,584 --> 00:12:22,384 Speaker 3: against you versus you proving that your innocence. 268 00:12:22,464 --> 00:12:24,504 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So it's one that he's been found not guilty, 269 00:12:24,784 --> 00:12:27,384 Speaker 2: the case isn't going ahead, which in many cases can 270 00:12:27,424 --> 00:12:29,264 Speaker 2: be because there was a false allegation. But we know 271 00:12:29,304 --> 00:12:31,744 Speaker 2: that that doesn't happen very often. And again, it's just 272 00:12:31,784 --> 00:12:34,224 Speaker 2: a hard one to even like speculate on anything because 273 00:12:34,224 --> 00:12:35,944 Speaker 2: we don't have the information. But I just think it's 274 00:12:35,944 --> 00:12:38,464 Speaker 2: important to remember that there's a lot of different layers 275 00:12:38,504 --> 00:12:40,624 Speaker 2: of what's going on here and a lot of information 276 00:12:40,664 --> 00:12:41,584 Speaker 2: that we don't have a. 277 00:12:41,584 --> 00:12:43,784 Speaker 3: Lot and read past the headline, like exactly what you 278 00:12:43,904 --> 00:12:45,744 Speaker 3: said that. I feel like people would read the headlines 279 00:12:46,104 --> 00:12:49,984 Speaker 3: and assume that the photo of Jay Z and Sean 280 00:12:50,024 --> 00:12:53,864 Speaker 3: Combs with the line Today's a victory automatically makes you 281 00:12:53,984 --> 00:12:57,104 Speaker 3: think that even Sean Combs has been led off and 282 00:12:57,104 --> 00:12:59,024 Speaker 3: the cases have been dismissed against him, which is not 283 00:12:59,144 --> 00:13:00,144 Speaker 3: the case exactly. 284 00:13:00,264 --> 00:13:02,704 Speaker 2: And that's what we many people have said from the start, 285 00:13:02,744 --> 00:13:05,144 Speaker 2: is that the jay Z and Diddy cases are so 286 00:13:05,344 --> 00:13:09,384 Speaker 2: wildly different because there's so many allegations against Diddy and 287 00:13:09,384 --> 00:13:12,424 Speaker 2: there's so much back and the fact that he's been 288 00:13:12,544 --> 00:13:15,184 Speaker 2: kept in jail for this period of time with no bail, Like, 289 00:13:15,504 --> 00:13:17,704 Speaker 2: you can't just do that offhand. There has to be 290 00:13:17,784 --> 00:13:20,864 Speaker 2: so much evidence to prove that he's guilty and prove 291 00:13:20,944 --> 00:13:23,104 Speaker 2: that he's a flight risk to be able to hold 292 00:13:23,184 --> 00:13:25,624 Speaker 2: him in jail for this period of time until his 293 00:13:25,784 --> 00:13:29,424 Speaker 2: court date on May one. Very different to the jay 294 00:13:29,504 --> 00:13:32,824 Speaker 2: Z allegation, which was more of a standalone, but you know, 295 00:13:32,984 --> 00:13:34,904 Speaker 2: equally as valid at the time. I think for the 296 00:13:34,944 --> 00:13:37,264 Speaker 2: amount of coverage it got, equally is valid for people 297 00:13:37,264 --> 00:13:39,704 Speaker 2: to be aware of what was happening. And I've never 298 00:13:39,704 --> 00:13:41,784 Speaker 2: been worried about jay Z like not getting his side 299 00:13:41,824 --> 00:13:43,464 Speaker 2: of the story out there, because he's the one with 300 00:13:43,504 --> 00:13:45,744 Speaker 2: the big platform, He's the one who's been putting media 301 00:13:45,824 --> 00:13:48,264 Speaker 2: statements out. He's got a legal team like, I've never 302 00:13:48,304 --> 00:13:50,304 Speaker 2: been worried in this that his voice isn't being heard 303 00:13:50,344 --> 00:13:52,664 Speaker 2: because it's been heard above all else. 304 00:13:52,824 --> 00:13:53,344 Speaker 1: Yeah. 305 00:13:53,384 --> 00:13:57,184 Speaker 3: Since recording this, Tony Busby, the lawyer who's representing a 306 00:13:57,184 --> 00:13:59,624 Speaker 3: lot of the alleged victims hasn't made comment on the 307 00:13:59,664 --> 00:14:02,384 Speaker 3: statement or the case being dismissed. But I think, like 308 00:14:02,464 --> 00:14:04,424 Speaker 3: always with this case, I've been talking about it for 309 00:14:04,464 --> 00:14:07,584 Speaker 3: so long that we will continue updating whenever there's new 310 00:14:07,744 --> 00:14:10,184 Speaker 3: revelations or new facts that have come to light. But 311 00:14:10,424 --> 00:14:12,904 Speaker 3: we have also written a huge piece on mom and 312 00:14:12,904 --> 00:14:15,824 Speaker 3: Mia that is constantly getting updated with new facts. We 313 00:14:15,824 --> 00:14:17,984 Speaker 3: will link that in our show notes if you're interested. 314 00:14:18,504 --> 00:14:18,944 Speaker 4: Nana. 315 00:14:20,264 --> 00:14:21,944 Speaker 2: So there's a bit of a viral video at the 316 00:14:21,944 --> 00:14:24,664 Speaker 2: moment doing the rounds of TikTok. Now it's moved over 317 00:14:24,704 --> 00:14:27,784 Speaker 2: to Instagram being picked up by all the main news outlets, 318 00:14:28,104 --> 00:14:30,424 Speaker 2: and is to do with an actress who's not normally 319 00:14:30,584 --> 00:14:33,464 Speaker 2: in any type of controversy, which is why I think 320 00:14:33,504 --> 00:14:35,984 Speaker 2: that people are so invested in the story and it's 321 00:14:35,984 --> 00:14:38,464 Speaker 2: getting picked up and it's getting so much traction. And 322 00:14:38,504 --> 00:14:42,424 Speaker 2: that is Modern Family star Sarah Hyland. This is so sad. 323 00:14:42,704 --> 00:14:44,544 Speaker 3: I feel like she's had like such a rough go 324 00:14:44,944 --> 00:14:45,744 Speaker 3: in the industry. 325 00:14:46,104 --> 00:14:48,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and I think that plays in part of 326 00:14:48,064 --> 00:14:49,944 Speaker 2: the story, so we'll get to that. So Sarah Hyland, 327 00:14:49,944 --> 00:14:52,384 Speaker 2: most people would know from Modern Family. She played the 328 00:14:52,424 --> 00:14:55,384 Speaker 2: oldest stumpy daughter. That show was on air for so 329 00:14:55,544 --> 00:14:58,064 Speaker 2: many years and was so critically acclaimed, and you know, 330 00:14:58,104 --> 00:14:59,704 Speaker 2: it was the big face of that. She's gone on 331 00:14:59,784 --> 00:15:02,544 Speaker 2: now to do some reality TV hosting. She's also on 332 00:15:02,584 --> 00:15:05,104 Speaker 2: Broadway at the moment in The Great Gatsby. I forgot. 333 00:15:05,184 --> 00:15:05,944 Speaker 3: She's such a good thing. 334 00:15:06,064 --> 00:15:07,824 Speaker 2: She's an amazing singer. So she's been doing a bit 335 00:15:07,824 --> 00:15:09,944 Speaker 2: of Broadway and a bit of theater performing. She's done 336 00:15:09,944 --> 00:15:12,584 Speaker 2: many MOVI views over the years. She is very beloved, 337 00:15:12,624 --> 00:15:14,584 Speaker 2: as you were saying, because people, I guess feel like 338 00:15:14,624 --> 00:15:17,144 Speaker 2: they watched her grow up on Modern Family. At the time, 339 00:15:17,264 --> 00:15:19,304 Speaker 2: she was also open about a lot of the health 340 00:15:19,304 --> 00:15:21,664 Speaker 2: struggles she has. Is very sick with a lot of 341 00:15:21,744 --> 00:15:23,824 Speaker 2: chronic illnesses. At the time, was she. 342 00:15:23,784 --> 00:15:25,424 Speaker 3: A beast of relationship? 343 00:15:25,624 --> 00:15:28,384 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, no, no, no, We're getting there. This girl has 344 00:15:28,384 --> 00:15:30,784 Speaker 2: lived a life, so a lot of her health concerns 345 00:15:30,784 --> 00:15:32,784 Speaker 2: because it was all happening while she was filming Modern Family, 346 00:15:32,784 --> 00:15:34,824 Speaker 2: which was one of the biggest shows on TV and 347 00:15:34,864 --> 00:15:36,744 Speaker 2: it was all documented and so people were very kind 348 00:15:36,744 --> 00:15:38,584 Speaker 2: of invested in her being on this hit show but 349 00:15:38,624 --> 00:15:40,464 Speaker 2: also being so sick behind the scenes that she was 350 00:15:40,464 --> 00:15:44,624 Speaker 2: hospitalized multiple times, underwent so many different surgeries and treatment plans. 351 00:15:44,904 --> 00:15:47,224 Speaker 2: And yes, later on she did talk about the boyfriend 352 00:15:47,264 --> 00:15:50,384 Speaker 2: she was with when she started being on Modern Family 353 00:15:50,464 --> 00:15:53,784 Speaker 2: and that it was a very emotionally abusive relationship. And 354 00:15:54,224 --> 00:15:55,904 Speaker 2: why I think that came out so much is that 355 00:15:55,984 --> 00:15:58,344 Speaker 2: she has a very tight bond with her TV mother, 356 00:15:58,544 --> 00:16:01,904 Speaker 2: Julie Bowen, and Julie was very instrumental in being part 357 00:16:01,944 --> 00:16:04,744 Speaker 2: of the intervention and also part of like helping her 358 00:16:04,864 --> 00:16:07,944 Speaker 2: confront her partner with other people, and also of getting 359 00:16:08,024 --> 00:16:09,464 Speaker 2: him out of town and like getting him back to 360 00:16:09,464 --> 00:16:11,144 Speaker 2: his family and all that sort of stuff, like a 361 00:16:11,264 --> 00:16:14,504 Speaker 2: very messy situation. And Sarah Hyland has talked about multiple 362 00:16:14,504 --> 00:16:16,184 Speaker 2: times that she wouldn't have been able to do that 363 00:16:16,424 --> 00:16:18,984 Speaker 2: without the Modern Family cast because they're they're always been 364 00:16:19,024 --> 00:16:21,664 Speaker 2: photographed together and hanging out and stuff like they have 365 00:16:21,864 --> 00:16:23,944 Speaker 2: one of those casts. I think that's also why people 366 00:16:24,104 --> 00:16:25,824 Speaker 2: love them. It's a little bit like the Friends cast. 367 00:16:25,824 --> 00:16:28,544 Speaker 2: So people love the show, but they loved the culture 368 00:16:28,584 --> 00:16:30,064 Speaker 2: that they thought was on set, and I think that 369 00:16:30,144 --> 00:16:32,744 Speaker 2: really was the same thing for Modern Family. And then 370 00:16:32,864 --> 00:16:35,224 Speaker 2: also when she fell in love with Wells Adams, because 371 00:16:35,264 --> 00:16:38,864 Speaker 2: they had a very public relationship, like he was a 372 00:16:38,944 --> 00:16:42,424 Speaker 2: very beloved reality TV star and host, and when they 373 00:16:42,424 --> 00:16:45,224 Speaker 2: got together, they post a lot about their relationship because 374 00:16:45,224 --> 00:16:47,224 Speaker 2: remember when they got married, they got married the same 375 00:16:47,264 --> 00:16:50,424 Speaker 2: weekend as Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, and people were 376 00:16:50,504 --> 00:16:54,664 Speaker 2: way more invested in the Sarah Hyland Wells Adams. 377 00:16:54,264 --> 00:16:57,824 Speaker 3: Way, I think, especially after her last relationship, and it's 378 00:16:57,864 --> 00:17:00,104 Speaker 3: one of those You're right, it's like the one family, 379 00:17:00,184 --> 00:17:03,304 Speaker 3: like each actor from that show, like even now, like 380 00:17:03,344 --> 00:17:05,624 Speaker 3: you always see them have reunions together and go over 381 00:17:05,744 --> 00:17:08,144 Speaker 3: like each other's houses, and a few of them went 382 00:17:08,304 --> 00:17:10,824 Speaker 3: to the girl who plays Lily Aubrey Field, them went 383 00:17:10,864 --> 00:17:13,624 Speaker 3: to a graduation like it was very cute. They're very close, 384 00:17:14,064 --> 00:17:16,624 Speaker 3: and I think you just become invested in actors who 385 00:17:16,904 --> 00:17:18,744 Speaker 3: you deem as like genuinely good people. 386 00:17:18,824 --> 00:17:22,144 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, And I think that's why this allegation has 387 00:17:22,184 --> 00:17:24,504 Speaker 2: gained such traction, is you have this girl that people 388 00:17:24,544 --> 00:17:27,024 Speaker 2: have watched grow up, invested in her love life, invested 389 00:17:27,024 --> 00:17:29,264 Speaker 2: in her career, and no one has ever said a 390 00:17:29,264 --> 00:17:31,984 Speaker 2: bad word about her, and she's always posting about her 391 00:17:32,024 --> 00:17:34,464 Speaker 2: celebrity friends all that sort of stuff. So then Jeff 392 00:17:34,504 --> 00:17:35,824 Speaker 2: Die It's okay. If you don't know the name, I'm 393 00:17:35,824 --> 00:17:38,184 Speaker 2: sure many people do. He's a comedian actor who's you know, 394 00:17:38,384 --> 00:17:40,264 Speaker 2: been in a lot of different things. He went on 395 00:17:40,304 --> 00:17:42,664 Speaker 2: an episode of the George Jenko Show. Also, don't know 396 00:17:42,664 --> 00:17:45,064 Speaker 2: what this is, but these all these people involved are 397 00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:47,664 Speaker 2: getting a lot of traction from this. And he starred 398 00:17:47,664 --> 00:17:51,864 Speaker 2: in the twenty nineteen movie The Wedding Year alongside Sarah Hiland. 399 00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:53,824 Speaker 2: And so Sarah Hyland and Anna Camp we're both in 400 00:17:53,824 --> 00:17:55,184 Speaker 2: that movie. I don't know if you watch it. It's 401 00:17:55,184 --> 00:17:56,304 Speaker 2: like quite a fun little movie. 402 00:17:56,344 --> 00:17:58,504 Speaker 3: ID I don't you would like it if I haven't 403 00:17:58,504 --> 00:17:59,264 Speaker 3: watched her in anything. 404 00:17:59,304 --> 00:18:00,384 Speaker 2: So oh again, that's okay. 405 00:18:00,384 --> 00:18:02,864 Speaker 3: And I I had some songs that she's sang on YouTube. 406 00:18:03,264 --> 00:18:05,504 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, Well this movie didn't do anything crazy, but 407 00:18:05,544 --> 00:18:07,264 Speaker 2: at the time of when it came out in two thousand. 408 00:18:07,024 --> 00:18:08,544 Speaker 3: One of those like feel good because it was one 409 00:18:08,544 --> 00:18:08,904 Speaker 3: of those. 410 00:18:08,824 --> 00:18:10,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one of those kind of like the 411 00:18:10,344 --> 00:18:12,704 Speaker 2: Friday night movie of the week. Now everyone watched. So 412 00:18:12,784 --> 00:18:14,584 Speaker 2: this guy was in it for literally a few seconds, 413 00:18:14,664 --> 00:18:16,304 Speaker 2: like he wasn't like a big co star or anything 414 00:18:16,344 --> 00:18:19,224 Speaker 2: like that. And he went on this show and just 415 00:18:20,104 --> 00:18:24,424 Speaker 2: ripped Sarah Hyland apart. And now the audio has gone 416 00:18:24,784 --> 00:18:27,944 Speaker 2: completely viral. It's everywhere. It's being picked up by every 417 00:18:27,984 --> 00:18:30,184 Speaker 2: news outlet. And when you listen to this audio, you'll 418 00:18:30,224 --> 00:18:30,864 Speaker 2: understand why. 419 00:18:30,984 --> 00:18:33,544 Speaker 1: I did a movie. It was called The Wedding Year, 420 00:18:34,224 --> 00:18:37,304 Speaker 1: and I played Anna Camp's husband. Right, So I'm on 421 00:18:37,344 --> 00:18:39,424 Speaker 1: set for I don't know, thirty seconds, right, that's how 422 00:18:39,424 --> 00:18:41,784 Speaker 1: big my role was. But in the time that I 423 00:18:41,824 --> 00:18:43,784 Speaker 1: had to be on set, Sarah Highland was the lead. 424 00:18:44,184 --> 00:18:45,544 Speaker 1: She is from Modern Family. 425 00:18:45,904 --> 00:18:46,944 Speaker 3: Is that the girl with the big eyes. 426 00:18:47,104 --> 00:18:50,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, she's like a pretty woman. Yeah, chain smokes 427 00:18:50,864 --> 00:18:56,784 Speaker 1: and it is terrible. She was such a tyrant, rude 428 00:18:56,824 --> 00:19:00,624 Speaker 1: to everyone. At one point she said this a quote. 429 00:19:00,664 --> 00:19:07,584 Speaker 1: This is a quote David, who's the director. There's extras 430 00:19:07,704 --> 00:19:11,584 Speaker 1: eating at the craft service table. Like she was annoyed 431 00:19:12,144 --> 00:19:16,184 Speaker 1: that some extras wanted fucking free granola bars or whatever 432 00:19:16,224 --> 00:19:18,544 Speaker 1: the hell, like like like it was in her like 433 00:19:18,584 --> 00:19:21,864 Speaker 1: it was in her kitchen or something. Oh God forbid, 434 00:19:21,944 --> 00:19:25,584 Speaker 1: these bored extras we wanted to Like it was so annoying. 435 00:19:25,904 --> 00:19:27,904 Speaker 1: Then at one point she hated me, by the way, 436 00:19:28,024 --> 00:19:30,904 Speaker 1: like just at one point she said, and this is 437 00:19:30,904 --> 00:19:35,824 Speaker 1: also a quote your what is wrong with people? Oh, 438 00:19:35,904 --> 00:19:38,144 Speaker 1: because she likes because I'm an actual man, you know, 439 00:19:38,184 --> 00:19:40,384 Speaker 1: she's not used to her. She's not used to ever 440 00:19:40,584 --> 00:19:45,184 Speaker 1: like you know, masculine energy of any sort. So she 441 00:19:45,304 --> 00:19:48,464 Speaker 1: tried to show everyone, like the new Dumbo trailer had 442 00:19:48,544 --> 00:19:51,704 Speaker 1: just dropped like that day, like the live action Dumbo, 443 00:19:52,184 --> 00:19:55,344 Speaker 1: and she was showing it to us all. But they're 444 00:19:55,384 --> 00:19:58,184 Speaker 1: all like in this hierarchy of Hollywood where it's like 445 00:19:58,224 --> 00:19:59,784 Speaker 1: she's number one on the call sheet. We have to 446 00:19:59,824 --> 00:20:01,864 Speaker 1: like pander to her. If she's mean to us, just 447 00:20:01,984 --> 00:20:03,824 Speaker 1: let her be mean to us. And if she's said, 448 00:20:04,264 --> 00:20:06,584 Speaker 1: pretend like it's okay that she's said. But she was 449 00:20:06,624 --> 00:20:09,544 Speaker 1: a tyrant. But she was literally like a terrible person. 450 00:20:09,744 --> 00:20:12,464 Speaker 1: So everyone I was like, oh, Sarah's showing us something. 451 00:20:12,864 --> 00:20:18,944 Speaker 1: She wanted to show them the Dumbo trailer on a phone. Right, 452 00:20:18,944 --> 00:20:21,464 Speaker 1: We're all like around, you know, Oh, she's showing us 453 00:20:21,464 --> 00:20:24,144 Speaker 1: something on her phone. So I was pretending to be interested. 454 00:20:24,504 --> 00:20:28,424 Speaker 1: She starts crying while showing us the dump to like 455 00:20:28,544 --> 00:20:32,624 Speaker 1: let us know how moved she is by the Dumbo trailer. 456 00:20:32,944 --> 00:20:33,984 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. 457 00:20:35,624 --> 00:20:37,344 Speaker 3: I was like I just. 458 00:20:37,304 --> 00:20:40,344 Speaker 1: Said, I didn't even mean it. I just wanted to 459 00:20:40,544 --> 00:20:45,344 Speaker 1: ruin the moment. I go, eh, that looks good. She 460 00:20:45,784 --> 00:20:50,384 Speaker 1: literally if she could like have me remove from like 461 00:20:50,464 --> 00:20:53,584 Speaker 1: a moment or anything like she was, I ruined her 462 00:20:53,664 --> 00:20:56,144 Speaker 1: little show piece of like look how much I'm into 463 00:20:56,184 --> 00:20:58,704 Speaker 1: the arts that I'm moved by Dumbo and I just 464 00:20:58,744 --> 00:21:01,424 Speaker 1: wanted to ruin it. And I did. I ruined it, 465 00:21:01,784 --> 00:21:04,024 Speaker 1: and she hated me, and I, you know whatever, I 466 00:21:04,024 --> 00:21:05,304 Speaker 1: was off the set the next day. 467 00:21:05,424 --> 00:21:06,864 Speaker 2: Who was this man? Okay? 468 00:21:06,944 --> 00:21:09,784 Speaker 3: Firstly, firstly, I've been writing notes. 469 00:21:09,824 --> 00:21:11,584 Speaker 2: I yeah, you look really angry. 470 00:21:11,904 --> 00:21:14,184 Speaker 3: It sounds like he hates women. Like that's clear to me. 471 00:21:14,304 --> 00:21:16,304 Speaker 3: It sounds like he just hates women because like no 472 00:21:16,344 --> 00:21:20,024 Speaker 3: one just randomly brings in masculine energy into a normal conversation. 473 00:21:20,824 --> 00:21:23,184 Speaker 3: It also sounds like he called her a tyrant. But 474 00:21:23,304 --> 00:21:26,744 Speaker 3: all she did, and if this is true, was don't 475 00:21:26,744 --> 00:21:29,184 Speaker 3: be ble in Yeah, and then make him watch a 476 00:21:29,224 --> 00:21:33,104 Speaker 3: trailer to a movie and he's like this, fucking bitchy, 477 00:21:33,184 --> 00:21:34,104 Speaker 3: what a tyrant? 478 00:21:34,704 --> 00:21:35,904 Speaker 2: Dare? She hated me. 479 00:21:36,024 --> 00:21:38,024 Speaker 3: It also feels like she's probably the only a less 480 00:21:38,064 --> 00:21:40,184 Speaker 3: celebrity he knows, so this is like a story that 481 00:21:40,264 --> 00:21:43,144 Speaker 3: he's making up to gain traction, to show that he's 482 00:21:43,384 --> 00:21:44,344 Speaker 3: kind of a big person. 483 00:21:44,544 --> 00:21:45,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 484 00:21:45,584 --> 00:21:47,064 Speaker 3: Anyway, I don't know this man, hate him. 485 00:21:47,104 --> 00:21:49,144 Speaker 2: There's a few different layers here, so he's on a 486 00:21:49,184 --> 00:21:52,424 Speaker 2: nobody so he has like a really substantial online following. 487 00:21:52,664 --> 00:21:54,624 Speaker 3: It sounds like it could be really funnyature. 488 00:21:54,664 --> 00:21:57,024 Speaker 2: A lot of celebrities follow him. He's also, in the 489 00:21:57,064 --> 00:22:01,104 Speaker 2: last seventeen hours posted about like his American like huge tour, 490 00:22:01,184 --> 00:22:04,144 Speaker 2: like he's playing multiple cities over multiple days. He is 491 00:22:04,184 --> 00:22:06,704 Speaker 2: a very in demand popular comedians. I just want that 492 00:22:06,704 --> 00:22:08,104 Speaker 2: to be clear. People will be investing in us, being like, 493 00:22:08,104 --> 00:22:09,784 Speaker 2: you don't know who Jeff Die is. He's just not 494 00:22:09,864 --> 00:22:12,664 Speaker 2: our cup of tea. But he's a very famous man 495 00:22:12,704 --> 00:22:14,904 Speaker 2: with a big following, obviously nowhere near as famous as 496 00:22:14,904 --> 00:22:17,064 Speaker 2: Sarah Hyland. And it does feel like it's one of 497 00:22:17,104 --> 00:22:19,344 Speaker 2: those things, is like if you're doing a long form podcast, 498 00:22:19,744 --> 00:22:21,864 Speaker 2: is it's just one of many stories he's told and 499 00:22:22,184 --> 00:22:23,864 Speaker 2: they have cut it as a video and post it 500 00:22:23,864 --> 00:22:25,624 Speaker 2: so they knew what they were doing. Did he not 501 00:22:25,704 --> 00:22:27,104 Speaker 2: realize it was going to pick up an that much 502 00:22:27,224 --> 00:22:29,864 Speaker 2: traction or has he said that and the podcast hosts 503 00:22:29,904 --> 00:22:32,624 Speaker 2: have pushed it because they're all trying to like, because. 504 00:22:32,424 --> 00:22:36,144 Speaker 3: The podcast are loving this all those listens. We would 505 00:22:36,184 --> 00:22:38,424 Speaker 3: have loved it if Jeff came into our podcast. 506 00:22:38,184 --> 00:22:40,104 Speaker 2: Said something like you would have been like, this man's terrible. 507 00:22:40,104 --> 00:22:41,824 Speaker 2: But thanks for those down so much. Yeah. 508 00:22:41,944 --> 00:22:42,184 Speaker 4: Yeah. 509 00:22:42,264 --> 00:22:44,744 Speaker 2: It's also going back to the headline thing, is that 510 00:22:44,984 --> 00:22:47,904 Speaker 2: what's around today is like Sarah Hyland labeled a tyrant, 511 00:22:48,424 --> 00:22:50,384 Speaker 2: is all the headlines that I'm seeing like news dot com, 512 00:22:50,544 --> 00:22:52,624 Speaker 2: daily Mail, all those places, which means it's kind of 513 00:22:52,664 --> 00:22:56,264 Speaker 2: gone a bit mainstream. Plus the comment about her yelling 514 00:22:56,304 --> 00:22:59,344 Speaker 2: at the extras for eating at the craft services table, 515 00:22:59,384 --> 00:23:01,264 Speaker 2: which I don't know, maybe they weren't supposed to be there, 516 00:23:01,264 --> 00:23:03,064 Speaker 2: maybe they had another craft services table, or maybe she's 517 00:23:03,064 --> 00:23:05,584 Speaker 2: just a terrible person. I don't know. But the rest 518 00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:07,504 Speaker 2: of it, like when he first starts about her being 519 00:23:07,584 --> 00:23:10,824 Speaker 2: really difficult, and then later he's also on a follow 520 00:23:10,904 --> 00:23:13,944 Speaker 2: up interview where he said, like heaps of famous people 521 00:23:13,944 --> 00:23:16,424 Speaker 2: messaged him and said thank you so much for speaking 522 00:23:16,464 --> 00:23:19,664 Speaker 2: out about this exactly. He didn't give any names. I'm 523 00:23:19,664 --> 00:23:21,624 Speaker 2: not seeing any messages, I'm not seeing any A lot 524 00:23:21,624 --> 00:23:23,704 Speaker 2: of famous people follow him. I'm not seeing anyone comment 525 00:23:23,704 --> 00:23:25,584 Speaker 2: on his videos or anything saying like thank you so 526 00:23:25,664 --> 00:23:29,024 Speaker 2: much for finally speaking out about tiny little Sarah Hireland 527 00:23:29,104 --> 00:23:32,704 Speaker 2: and bringing her down. Yeah. So what he got asked 528 00:23:32,704 --> 00:23:35,384 Speaker 2: in the follow up interview was are you worried about 529 00:23:35,464 --> 00:23:37,544 Speaker 2: the wrath of Sarah Hyland? And he said, no, she 530 00:23:37,624 --> 00:23:39,944 Speaker 2: hates me, so she'll never work with me again. Anyway, 531 00:23:40,024 --> 00:23:42,264 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone well, I mean he's got his 532 00:23:42,304 --> 00:23:45,624 Speaker 2: own big comedy correct, so he probably he's a solo guy. Yeah, 533 00:23:45,664 --> 00:23:48,384 Speaker 2: he's probably not looking for her to cast him in 534 00:23:48,424 --> 00:23:50,264 Speaker 2: a movie or anything like that. And then he said 535 00:23:50,304 --> 00:23:52,464 Speaker 2: the so many famous people who have worked with her 536 00:23:52,864 --> 00:23:55,544 Speaker 2: have come to him personally. Again, we can't verify this, 537 00:23:55,864 --> 00:23:58,464 Speaker 2: have come to him personally, said thank you so much 538 00:23:58,544 --> 00:24:00,784 Speaker 2: for speaking out about this and for calling her out. 539 00:24:00,784 --> 00:24:02,384 Speaker 2: We've all wanted to say it for years, but we 540 00:24:02,424 --> 00:24:05,704 Speaker 2: can't because she's so publicly beloved. And then he also said, 541 00:24:05,744 --> 00:24:07,904 Speaker 2: like ask anyone on that set, I'm still really good 542 00:24:07,944 --> 00:24:10,504 Speaker 2: friends with Anna Camp. The director liked me. Everyone liked me. 543 00:24:11,064 --> 00:24:13,064 Speaker 2: And then he talked about all the different TV shows 544 00:24:13,064 --> 00:24:15,624 Speaker 2: and movies he'd been on in his career and he said, like, 545 00:24:15,664 --> 00:24:17,984 Speaker 2: I'm always the person who knows everyone's name on the 546 00:24:17,984 --> 00:24:20,784 Speaker 2: call list. I know everyone the crew. Everyone likes me. 547 00:24:20,944 --> 00:24:22,664 Speaker 2: You can't say the same for these other actors. So 548 00:24:22,704 --> 00:24:25,664 Speaker 2: a lot of different claims that can't be verified. But 549 00:24:25,784 --> 00:24:28,064 Speaker 2: like when he's just talking about her being difficult and 550 00:24:28,064 --> 00:24:30,744 Speaker 2: talking about her getting mad at extras and dabbing them 551 00:24:30,744 --> 00:24:33,944 Speaker 2: in for eating, which feels like they should. Extras don't 552 00:24:33,944 --> 00:24:35,864 Speaker 2: get paid that much, so if you can like steal 553 00:24:35,864 --> 00:24:39,064 Speaker 2: some stuff from craft services and sets have amazing craft services. 554 00:24:39,104 --> 00:24:41,384 Speaker 2: I've stolen things myself when I'm there because journalists don't 555 00:24:41,384 --> 00:24:44,744 Speaker 2: ge paid very much that I know of. 556 00:24:45,064 --> 00:24:47,464 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's like the most weirdest things to 557 00:24:47,664 --> 00:24:50,664 Speaker 3: like both of those examples the Dumbo thing plus also so. 558 00:24:50,904 --> 00:24:54,864 Speaker 2: He comes off terrible all the Dumbo trailer was really cute. 559 00:24:54,904 --> 00:24:56,904 Speaker 2: The movie wasn't great, but the trailer was cute. 560 00:24:57,744 --> 00:25:02,104 Speaker 3: Ears I was crying for that as well, But it 561 00:25:02,224 --> 00:25:04,944 Speaker 3: was like two very like, obviously the craft services thing 562 00:25:05,024 --> 00:25:07,544 Speaker 3: is a bit weird if that was true, But it's 563 00:25:07,624 --> 00:25:10,944 Speaker 3: like two examples. I don't have any legs to be 564 00:25:10,984 --> 00:25:13,744 Speaker 3: able to call someone a tyrant and even make like 565 00:25:13,784 --> 00:25:16,864 Speaker 3: a whole segment about hating like an a less celebrity. 566 00:25:17,104 --> 00:25:20,064 Speaker 3: There have been people like in my career that I'm like, 567 00:25:20,144 --> 00:25:22,544 Speaker 3: oh my god, I hate that person. Yeah, I'd never 568 00:25:22,824 --> 00:25:26,864 Speaker 3: ever ever say that on a podcast, especially not even 569 00:25:26,904 --> 00:25:29,624 Speaker 3: on my own podcast to give those listens to someone else. 570 00:25:29,824 --> 00:25:32,624 Speaker 3: It's just one of those things where like in the industry, 571 00:25:33,064 --> 00:25:35,704 Speaker 3: I feel like he thinks that by saying this, like 572 00:25:35,744 --> 00:25:37,704 Speaker 3: she'll never work with him again, and that's the worst 573 00:25:37,744 --> 00:25:39,784 Speaker 3: that could happen. I'm like, no, no one will work 574 00:25:39,824 --> 00:25:41,504 Speaker 3: with you again. If that's why you're going to be 575 00:25:41,544 --> 00:25:42,264 Speaker 3: talking about. 576 00:25:42,024 --> 00:25:44,904 Speaker 2: People, Well, yeah, his allegations really lose steam because I 577 00:25:44,904 --> 00:25:46,624 Speaker 2: think it's picked up in such a way now that 578 00:25:46,704 --> 00:25:48,944 Speaker 2: now he's doing a little bit of damage control, and 579 00:25:49,024 --> 00:25:51,584 Speaker 2: his big message in these post interviews that he's done 580 00:25:51,624 --> 00:25:54,184 Speaker 2: about this clip going viral is him saying like, we 581 00:25:54,264 --> 00:25:56,184 Speaker 2: need to stand up for ourselves, we need to call 582 00:25:56,224 --> 00:25:58,424 Speaker 2: out bad behavior. But what did you do it again? 583 00:25:58,744 --> 00:26:01,144 Speaker 2: And I was like, I agree with calling out famous 584 00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:04,344 Speaker 2: influential people who have a beloved persona, but a terrible 585 00:26:04,384 --> 00:26:06,424 Speaker 2: behind the scenes because I'm sure you know what it's like, 586 00:26:06,424 --> 00:26:08,384 Speaker 2: like we have come across well known people in our 587 00:26:08,464 --> 00:26:10,664 Speaker 2: jobs and in our circles or some of them, and 588 00:26:10,704 --> 00:26:12,224 Speaker 2: some of them are so awful, and so every time 589 00:26:12,224 --> 00:26:14,744 Speaker 2: you see people praising them publicly, like I, the person 590 00:26:14,864 --> 00:26:15,704 Speaker 2: is awful. 591 00:26:15,344 --> 00:26:17,624 Speaker 3: And I just want everyone to nobody just talk about 592 00:26:17,664 --> 00:26:19,904 Speaker 3: them behind their backs. 593 00:26:20,464 --> 00:26:23,024 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I understand wanting the story to be 594 00:26:23,064 --> 00:26:25,424 Speaker 2: out there, but I also just don't think this was 595 00:26:25,464 --> 00:26:26,624 Speaker 2: the example he should have used. 596 00:26:26,664 --> 00:26:29,144 Speaker 3: Because but also the people that like, we've like, sorry 597 00:26:29,144 --> 00:26:31,664 Speaker 3: to put ourselves into this, but the people that we 598 00:26:31,744 --> 00:26:36,904 Speaker 3: talk about have been directly mean to us personally. We 599 00:26:37,024 --> 00:26:38,904 Speaker 3: just don't know them as mean people or they've been 600 00:26:38,904 --> 00:26:40,784 Speaker 3: mean to people that, like we've seen them be mean 601 00:26:40,824 --> 00:26:43,344 Speaker 3: to other people in front of us, like actually really 602 00:26:43,384 --> 00:26:46,464 Speaker 3: horrible people. And it's not just someone eating food and 603 00:26:46,504 --> 00:26:48,624 Speaker 3: them going don't eat that, Like it's more than that. 604 00:26:48,904 --> 00:26:51,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, he didn't give any examples. 605 00:26:50,744 --> 00:26:52,704 Speaker 3: Of what she's personally done to him. 606 00:26:52,744 --> 00:26:55,384 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, Like he really loses this mission 607 00:26:55,384 --> 00:26:57,624 Speaker 2: statement that he's apparently on, which I actually don't think 608 00:26:57,664 --> 00:26:59,744 Speaker 2: he had going into the podcast. Now that it's become 609 00:26:59,784 --> 00:27:01,824 Speaker 2: this huge thing and he's getting all these interview requests 610 00:27:01,864 --> 00:27:03,864 Speaker 2: about it, he's trying to make it into this really 611 00:27:03,904 --> 00:27:05,664 Speaker 2: brave thing of like I'm trying to speak up and 612 00:27:05,744 --> 00:27:09,064 Speaker 2: lead the revolution. But the examples he's used, first of all, 613 00:27:09,104 --> 00:27:11,024 Speaker 2: like you're saying before his dialogue like she just doesn't 614 00:27:11,024 --> 00:27:14,584 Speaker 2: know what a real man's like is really damaging and 615 00:27:14,624 --> 00:27:15,504 Speaker 2: doesn't paint him in the I. 616 00:27:15,504 --> 00:27:16,984 Speaker 3: Mean, she knows what an abusive man's like. 617 00:27:17,144 --> 00:27:19,344 Speaker 2: Yeah, so. And also you don't sound like a delight 618 00:27:19,424 --> 00:27:21,624 Speaker 2: to her. Once a guy starts bringing the real man 619 00:27:21,624 --> 00:27:26,824 Speaker 2: thing automatically, everything else he says is n one voyage. 620 00:27:24,624 --> 00:27:28,144 Speaker 3: Man says, she's not used to masculine energy. 621 00:27:28,184 --> 00:27:31,104 Speaker 2: I'm like, get out, Like your whole argument falls apart. 622 00:27:31,264 --> 00:27:33,024 Speaker 2: And also when he's saying in the Dumbo trailer like 623 00:27:33,064 --> 00:27:35,664 Speaker 2: that's so gay, I felt that really offensive too, because 624 00:27:35,664 --> 00:27:37,904 Speaker 2: you're using gay in that way as a derogatory term, 625 00:27:37,904 --> 00:27:40,224 Speaker 2: which I can't believe he's not getting called out the hell. 626 00:27:40,704 --> 00:27:43,504 Speaker 3: Like two thousand and eight, yes exactly. 627 00:27:43,824 --> 00:27:45,464 Speaker 2: Well no, this is why, I mean he's doing a 628 00:27:45,584 --> 00:27:48,504 Speaker 2: sold out, huge two all around americle, like he's all 629 00:27:48,544 --> 00:27:51,824 Speaker 2: around America. He's obviously found his target demo with these jokes. 630 00:27:52,024 --> 00:27:54,424 Speaker 2: And then also of him saying like I deliberately wanted 631 00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:56,984 Speaker 2: to ruin that moment for her, I'm like again, you're 632 00:27:56,984 --> 00:27:59,464 Speaker 2: not coming out as the like the champion here that 633 00:27:59,504 --> 00:28:00,304 Speaker 2: you think you are. 634 00:28:00,304 --> 00:28:02,064 Speaker 3: I don't even think she remembers your name until you 635 00:28:02,104 --> 00:28:02,384 Speaker 3: did this. 636 00:28:03,264 --> 00:28:05,664 Speaker 2: Yes, her team's brought this to her and she's like, watch, 637 00:28:05,904 --> 00:28:08,224 Speaker 2: she's like this man, she's like in the Great Gatspeet 638 00:28:08,264 --> 00:28:10,784 Speaker 2: the moment and getting these like rave reviews and and stuff. 639 00:28:10,784 --> 00:28:12,664 Speaker 2: And then her public is like, cause the thing is, 640 00:28:12,664 --> 00:28:15,504 Speaker 2: she was trending on TikTok for her performance is Daisy 641 00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:19,064 Speaker 2: on Broadway because it's such a huge role and those 642 00:28:19,104 --> 00:28:21,504 Speaker 2: clips were going everywhere, and now she's trending for this 643 00:28:21,544 --> 00:28:23,984 Speaker 2: and this has overtaken that. So I'm sure she's aware 644 00:28:23,984 --> 00:28:25,904 Speaker 2: of it. She hasn't said anything, and I almost feel 645 00:28:25,904 --> 00:28:27,504 Speaker 2: like she wouldn't, like why would she give this man 646 00:28:27,504 --> 00:28:30,384 Speaker 2: any airtime? But it's also it's not even about the 647 00:28:30,544 --> 00:28:32,624 Speaker 2: like is Sarah Hyland a bad person or not, Like 648 00:28:32,664 --> 00:28:34,064 Speaker 2: we'll just never have that information. 649 00:28:34,544 --> 00:28:37,144 Speaker 3: I'll just say if she is, give me better examples. 650 00:28:37,344 --> 00:28:40,104 Speaker 2: Yeah. But also I just kind of assume that most 651 00:28:40,144 --> 00:28:42,704 Speaker 2: people in the entertainment industry are like, not great to 652 00:28:42,744 --> 00:28:45,304 Speaker 2: be around and all of that. They're all inherently bad people. 653 00:28:45,784 --> 00:28:47,984 Speaker 2: It's that we project on celebrities that they have to 654 00:28:47,984 --> 00:28:50,184 Speaker 2: be these like moral beacons and they're amazing and. 655 00:28:50,384 --> 00:28:52,104 Speaker 3: They have to sell themselves, right, Yeah, I don't like 656 00:28:52,144 --> 00:28:53,984 Speaker 3: egotistical people, and yeah, that's all of them. 657 00:28:54,104 --> 00:28:55,584 Speaker 2: You have to be you have to be to kind 658 00:28:55,584 --> 00:28:58,064 Speaker 2: of succeed in that industry. And also like so many 659 00:28:58,064 --> 00:29:00,304 Speaker 2: things happen, like you know, on sets and having those 660 00:29:00,344 --> 00:29:01,984 Speaker 2: long days, and also, yeah, you have to be a 661 00:29:01,984 --> 00:29:03,064 Speaker 2: particular type of person. 662 00:29:03,104 --> 00:29:05,704 Speaker 3: Maybe she really wanted a turkey sandwich and then Extra 663 00:29:05,784 --> 00:29:06,864 Speaker 3: took the last one. 664 00:29:06,624 --> 00:29:08,144 Speaker 2: And she was on set, she couldn't leave, and she's 665 00:29:08,184 --> 00:29:09,624 Speaker 2: sort of them taking the sandwich and she's like the 666 00:29:09,664 --> 00:29:12,144 Speaker 2: director just so you know, they're eating from my table. 667 00:29:12,624 --> 00:29:14,944 Speaker 2: And I would be on her side on that. Can 668 00:29:14,984 --> 00:29:16,384 Speaker 2: I say? This is not the first time this man 669 00:29:16,424 --> 00:29:17,544 Speaker 2: has publicly called out. 670 00:29:19,704 --> 00:29:21,904 Speaker 3: There's more ask you much skill an energy to go around. 671 00:29:22,104 --> 00:29:24,504 Speaker 2: Well, this paints him in a terrible light. And the 672 00:29:24,544 --> 00:29:26,384 Speaker 2: only reason I'm bringing this up is the irony of 673 00:29:26,464 --> 00:29:29,264 Speaker 2: him calling out another woman for using him for podcast 674 00:29:29,264 --> 00:29:33,064 Speaker 2: clicks in the past. You know who Christin CAVALII is, right, Yes, 675 00:29:33,104 --> 00:29:35,984 Speaker 2: they'd have us all. Yeah, starvely going to beach, starved Hills, 676 00:29:36,184 --> 00:29:37,664 Speaker 2: starve very cavity. 677 00:29:37,664 --> 00:29:39,984 Speaker 3: I actually haven't watched her in anything. I just know her, 678 00:29:40,464 --> 00:29:41,984 Speaker 3: which I feel like is pretty good on me. 679 00:29:42,264 --> 00:29:44,184 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, she's the same effects. We've had her on 680 00:29:44,184 --> 00:29:47,544 Speaker 2: the Spill before and she was delightful. Okay, So Jeff 681 00:29:47,584 --> 00:29:51,104 Speaker 2: di dated Christin Cavalery from twenty twenty one to twenty 682 00:29:51,104 --> 00:29:53,784 Speaker 2: twenty two, so to hear, and then later on Kristin 683 00:29:53,824 --> 00:29:56,264 Speaker 2: Cavaliery because she has a podcast called Let's Be Honest, 684 00:29:56,264 --> 00:29:59,184 Speaker 2: so that's her mission statement told a story about an 685 00:29:59,264 --> 00:30:02,224 Speaker 2: unnamed ex boyfriend getting arrested in front of her during 686 00:30:02,264 --> 00:30:05,024 Speaker 2: a trip to la and said that he was arrested 687 00:30:05,064 --> 00:30:07,984 Speaker 2: for fleeing the scene of a traffic collision after driving 688 00:30:08,104 --> 00:30:12,024 Speaker 2: under the influence. And so then Jeff Dye came out 689 00:30:12,104 --> 00:30:15,144 Speaker 2: and said Kristin telling that story on her podcast for clicks, 690 00:30:15,224 --> 00:30:17,824 Speaker 2: which fuck her. It's not her story, but now we 691 00:30:17,864 --> 00:30:20,024 Speaker 2: all know it. To you, he said, it was very 692 00:30:20,144 --> 00:30:23,104 Speaker 2: terrible and it hurt my feelings a lot. He also 693 00:30:23,144 --> 00:30:25,984 Speaker 2: said Kristin Cavalier was a terrible person for later posting 694 00:30:26,064 --> 00:30:28,504 Speaker 2: photos of his total car on social media. 695 00:30:28,624 --> 00:30:31,384 Speaker 3: Did she actually that's so funny? 696 00:30:31,984 --> 00:30:35,944 Speaker 2: She was like this guy, So Betty, I love that, 697 00:30:36,344 --> 00:30:38,784 Speaker 2: he said, I don't think people realize how horrific that 698 00:30:38,824 --> 00:30:40,704 Speaker 2: made me feel, Like, I don't know if anyone will 699 00:30:40,744 --> 00:30:42,784 Speaker 2: ever know. I don't know how to explain it. Imagine 700 00:30:42,784 --> 00:30:44,664 Speaker 2: the worst thing that ever happened to you, and strangers 701 00:30:44,704 --> 00:30:46,424 Speaker 2: are looking at you, like at a coffee shop. 702 00:30:46,824 --> 00:30:48,504 Speaker 3: Wait, why do you confess that it was him? 703 00:30:48,704 --> 00:30:50,824 Speaker 2: Did she name him? I think people put it together 704 00:30:50,824 --> 00:30:53,064 Speaker 2: because she talked about an ex boyfriend and they were 705 00:30:53,104 --> 00:30:54,984 Speaker 2: together at the time, and like, this was on the 706 00:30:54,984 --> 00:30:57,584 Speaker 2: public record that Jeff die had, you know, been involved 707 00:30:57,584 --> 00:30:57,864 Speaker 2: in that. 708 00:30:58,064 --> 00:30:59,784 Speaker 3: But I think he did this, So they called him 709 00:31:00,224 --> 00:31:01,224 Speaker 3: crashed and then ran away. 710 00:31:01,384 --> 00:31:04,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then so yeah, the moral of the stories. 711 00:31:04,944 --> 00:31:07,824 Speaker 2: And he came out and started attacking Kristin Cavalary for 712 00:31:07,904 --> 00:31:10,024 Speaker 2: using him for podcast clicks, which I just think is 713 00:31:10,064 --> 00:31:10,944 Speaker 2: a really important But. 714 00:31:10,944 --> 00:31:13,024 Speaker 3: She's not using him. She's like, that's part of her 715 00:31:13,064 --> 00:31:14,224 Speaker 3: lived experience as well. 716 00:31:14,304 --> 00:31:17,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it was sorry to tell. I'm like, well, 717 00:31:17,144 --> 00:31:18,984 Speaker 2: she watched you run away from the police, so it 718 00:31:19,064 --> 00:31:21,464 Speaker 2: is her story to tell. Anyway. I think this is 719 00:31:21,504 --> 00:31:24,304 Speaker 2: just obviously this is. 720 00:31:24,224 --> 00:31:27,304 Speaker 3: The funniest segment we've overdone. I actually feel really bad 721 00:31:27,344 --> 00:31:28,944 Speaker 3: for this man. I feel like we don't know. 722 00:31:29,104 --> 00:31:29,824 Speaker 2: Sorry to this man. 723 00:31:29,864 --> 00:31:32,424 Speaker 3: We're sorry to this man. I did not know who 724 00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:36,344 Speaker 3: this man is, but it sounds like that you just 725 00:31:36,504 --> 00:31:40,784 Speaker 3: really need to kind of get better examples for hating women. 726 00:31:40,984 --> 00:31:43,504 Speaker 2: Yes, and we just know that this takedown of Sarah Hyland, 727 00:31:43,504 --> 00:31:45,784 Speaker 2: it's burning fast and bride. I'm sure it all kind 728 00:31:45,784 --> 00:31:47,304 Speaker 2: of peter out in the next couple of days. 729 00:31:47,344 --> 00:31:49,424 Speaker 3: It's good content for when he does a stand up 730 00:31:49,464 --> 00:31:52,824 Speaker 3: oh so like that's great for his career exactly. 731 00:31:52,864 --> 00:31:54,584 Speaker 2: We just want to listen to something out of all 732 00:31:54,624 --> 00:31:57,264 Speaker 2: the information of this man before you go and watch 733 00:31:57,304 --> 00:31:57,744 Speaker 2: this video. 734 00:31:58,104 --> 00:32:00,624 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today. 735 00:32:00,704 --> 00:32:02,944 Speaker 3: In case you missed it, on Friday, we did a 736 00:32:02,944 --> 00:32:06,504 Speaker 3: brutally honest review of the show Apple Side of Vinegar. 737 00:32:07,064 --> 00:32:09,304 Speaker 3: We broke down all of the stuff that was true, 738 00:32:09,384 --> 00:32:11,064 Speaker 3: all of the stuff that was true ish, and all 739 00:32:11,104 --> 00:32:12,704 Speaker 3: this stuff that was a lie. So you know, when 740 00:32:12,704 --> 00:32:14,504 Speaker 3: you're watching it and you want to google something, you 741 00:32:14,544 --> 00:32:16,424 Speaker 3: don't have to because we've done it for you. So 742 00:32:16,504 --> 00:32:17,904 Speaker 3: make sure you give that a listen. We'll link it 743 00:32:17,944 --> 00:32:19,344 Speaker 3: on our show notes, or you can just scroll on 744 00:32:19,424 --> 00:32:21,424 Speaker 3: up and see what else you've missed. The Spill is 745 00:32:21,424 --> 00:32:24,144 Speaker 3: produced by Kim Lee Bradish with sound production by Scott's Trunnik. 746 00:32:24,184 --> 00:32:25,864 Speaker 3: And we'll be back here on your podcast feed at 747 00:32:25,864 --> 00:32:26,824 Speaker 3: three pm tomorrow. 748 00:32:27,024 --> 00:32:33,264 Speaker 2: Bye bye