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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura

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Speaker 2: Bredney and I'm m Venam. She's in the house and

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Speaker 2: here I am. I'm so exed to YouTube to see.

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Speaker 3: Don't look.

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Speaker 1: There was always a debate about the hair before we start.

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Speaker 2: We don't include the spillers in because I just don't

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Speaker 2: know if they'd be interested in that, or maybe you

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Speaker 3: I think because we do it every single day, it's

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Speaker 3: been a bit boring for us. But I'm a feeling

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Speaker 3: of spillers might enjoy that little bt yes moment.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, well, stay tuned, Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the video producer Michael can decide maybe we'll start gossiping.

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Speaker 2: While we do that, we can put that up on

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Speaker 2: stories and people can have a little insight. Hair is

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Speaker 2: not the topic of this show today, would you believe?

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Speaker 2: Unless you want to you beauty is recording in the

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Speaker 2: studio next to us, next to us, so you could

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Speaker 2: do a crossover. We just tap on the window between

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Speaker 2: us and be like, can you guys give us some hairtaps,

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Speaker 2: give us some haird tips?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: But coming up on the show today, Prince William has

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Speaker 2: given a very revealing and surprising interview that young Emily

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Speaker 2: here was quite flawed by it. So you're going to

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Speaker 2: take us through the biggest moments of that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I will.

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Speaker 1: Plus, I'm not laughing, it's not funny.

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Speaker 2: Ilaria Baldwin Laddia, our favorite Spanish superstar, has also given

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Speaker 2: a very revealing and surprising interview that we're going to

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Speaker 2: delve into. Plus this week she had a bit of

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Speaker 2: a heartbreaking moment on Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 3: She had a big week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's had a huge week. The American show that

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Speaker 2: Astoria has become obsessed with. We're going to unpack all that.

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Speaker 2: But first, Emily, this week you saw some photos that

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Speaker 3: Yes, traumatize This is a very intense word.

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Speaker 1: But I'm for this moment.

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Speaker 3: I did see some videos and some short clips I

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Speaker 3: want to say of two very very famous people on

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Speaker 3: together again. I am talking about Jennifer Lopez or also

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Speaker 3: known as Jalo you might know her and Ben Affleck. Yes,

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Speaker 3: my favorite couple and then ex'es and then couple and

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Speaker 3: then ex's trope. They are currently in the excess phase

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Speaker 3: of their relationship, and yet they were spotted together on

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Speaker 3: a red carpet at what I'm assuming is a movie premiere,

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Speaker 3: because I know they did a lot of work together

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I definitely wouldn't get your hopes up at

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Speaker 3: Do you think they're friends?

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Speaker 1: I think so.

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Speaker 3: Do you think exes can be friends?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think excess you have to go on a very

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: The reason I think they're friends is that Jennifer Lopez

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Speaker 1: What she was their stepmom for like over a year.

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Speaker 3: So you break up with someone and you still have

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe she had promised Samuel that she would take

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 2: Like when kids are involved, it's a bit more, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a bit more layered. But yes, they were together

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Speaker 1: Laughing at that?

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Speaker 3: It's funny. Then it was a very famous what a

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Speaker 1: Now it's like Supergirl. It's not in the same universe

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Speaker 2: It was a very famous book, and then it became

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Speaker 2: And now they've remade it again for the big screen, right,

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Speaker 2: And it's about two I think it's two prisoners in

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Lopez being the Spider Woman. So like that it

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Speaker 2: So she was doing like Dakota Johnson from Madame Webb

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Speaker 2: she and Ben were married. Well, obviously he produced the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, huge, Oh.

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Speaker 3: My god, I forgot so much about this relationship. Now,

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Speaker 3: we did so much together the little time they had so.

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Speaker 2: Much together in the time they were married. I don't

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Speaker 3: Gaining those news let the subscribers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, getting married twice.

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Speaker 2: Then they made that other movie with Matt Damon, that

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Speaker 1: Ben Affleck didn't go to that premiere.

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Speaker 3: But Matt Damon had to console Jaylen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can see the photos from the after party

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Speaker 3: I feel like every friendship there's a Matt and a Ben. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm a Ben.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're a Ben. Sadly, I feel like I'm a Matt.

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Speaker 3: I think you're a Mat.

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Speaker 1: I think that's why we get along so well.

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Speaker 3: I think you're a really great Matt.

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Speaker 2: For me, it always happens to answer we get along

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Speaker 2: so well, is that when we are the Matt Damon.

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Speaker 1: I don't think, no, absolutely not. You need those You

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Speaker 2: The reason they we're at this premiere is that Ben

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Speaker 3: The Spider Woman. Yeah, oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's going to be like a big dramatic

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Speaker 3: They're going to start leaning more into the X's friendship

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Speaker 1: The movie potentially. I mean, did get everyone talking about it.

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Speaker 3: I watched those little clips that were like two seconds longs.

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Speaker 3: did you deduce from that? You think they're getting back together.

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Speaker 3: I think it's more of like me wanting them to

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Speaker 3: which I'm sure they obviously have because they've been together

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Speaker 1: Falling for it. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess when.

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Speaker 2: They broke up the first time over twenty years ago,

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Speaker 3: Was holding the Duncan donuts dream yeah.

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Speaker 1: Always always. We love a man who was always on breath.

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Speaker 2: He's spotted with Jennifer Gannah just as much as he's

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Speaker 3: Just friendly excesses.

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Speaker 1: They're always hanging out together, which I think they kind

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're getting back together now at all.

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Speaker 2: They literally like the income.

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Speaker 2: Third wedding wouldn't hurt No, no, no, a third wedding would

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Speaker 2: be lovely, And I do hope that happens for them,

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Speaker 2: but I think we need to give it another twenty

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Speaker 2: just like every decade, or so they come back around

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Speaker 3: Our children's are sare and then our children's children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and on their one hundredth birthday in a few years,

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Speaker 2: they'll be renewing their vower somewhere and that'll be holding

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait. So I was scrolling on my streaming

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Speaker 3: and I was fed this show and it was on

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Speaker 3: Apple TV and it was called The Reluctant Traveler starring

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Speaker 3: done two whole seasons. I never knew this show existed. Oh,

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Speaker 3: and it was only like this new season that he's

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Speaker 3: doing right now, season three, where it's like been all

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Speaker 1: Your algorithm just knows my algorithm knows me so well.

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Speaker 3: And then I realized why, and it was because buried

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Speaker 3: within the season is an episode that stars Prince.

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Speaker 2: William, the future King, Yes, the future King of England, of.

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Speaker 1: The world of the world, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So this whole series is kind of like a

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Speaker 3: Maybe we should do a brilliant trivial of that show.

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Speaker 2: That show, How good would that be? What was called

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Speaker 2: you Want to Marry Harry? You want to marry from memory?

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Speaker 3: So Eugene's in this hotel room. He gets a letter

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Speaker 1: So fun. And they didn't put music over it or anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but like to make his coming on a

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Speaker 3: It's just awkward.

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Speaker 1: So then you'd be like, girl.

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Speaker 3: The actual interview that they do, because it is ends

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is obviously why he did it, Like he's

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Speaker 2: Because he's trying to redo his public image, he's about

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Speaker 2: He writes by his brother forsaking him for Kate Middleton

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Speaker 2: Those stories and people thought that Catherine wasn't hiding. There's

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Speaker 3: Like a far and he's also Canadian, which I think

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Speaker 3: There was a point where Eugene Levy asked him, were

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Speaker 2: That, like it's always him coming back to that of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just such an interesting interview and you're

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Speaker 1: It was just so mutual.

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Speaker 2: It was such a smart decision on William's behalf, oh

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Speaker 3: And also it's not actually an interview, like it's this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no one's expecting like a gotcha moment or a

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Speaker 2: It was just I feel like it's humanized William to

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Speaker 3: cool it. It was crazy, and I was like, I

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00:18:20,064 --> 00:18:22,624
Speaker 3: just find like that stuff really interesting. But it also

440
00:18:22,704 --> 00:18:26,984
Speaker 3: reminded me of another interview David Attenborough when he did

441
00:18:26,984 --> 00:18:31,064
Speaker 3: a documentary on England and he interviewed the Queen and

442
00:18:31,104 --> 00:18:33,424
Speaker 3: they went for a walk in their private garden and

443
00:18:33,464 --> 00:18:35,904
Speaker 3: it was just like friends talking to each other. They

444
00:18:36,064 --> 00:18:37,984
Speaker 3: reminded me of that because they did their interview in

445
00:18:38,024 --> 00:18:40,464
Speaker 3: like the private gardens, like friends talking to each other,

446
00:18:40,864 --> 00:18:44,864
Speaker 3: And I think I preferred these type of interviews that

447
00:18:44,944 --> 00:18:48,344
Speaker 3: aren't really interviews with a royal family way more than

448
00:18:48,424 --> 00:18:51,464
Speaker 3: like the gotcha moments that we've been seeing recently, especially

449
00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:52,264
Speaker 3: with Harry and Meghan.

450
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, sometimes there's a space for gotcha moments

451
00:18:54,904 --> 00:18:57,584
Speaker 2: because sometimes they're not the journalists trying to trick the person.

452
00:18:57,624 --> 00:19:00,544
Speaker 2: They're just asking a tough question or a big question,

453
00:19:00,624 --> 00:19:02,624
Speaker 2: and sometimes you have to answer truthfully. So I think

454
00:19:02,624 --> 00:19:04,344
Speaker 2: it's a space for that. But I also think, like

455
00:19:04,424 --> 00:19:06,784
Speaker 2: you're right, this is a travel TV show. It's not

456
00:19:06,904 --> 00:19:08,984
Speaker 2: out in the world to kind of bring Prince William down.

457
00:19:09,024 --> 00:19:10,824
Speaker 2: But I do think it was very calky later on

458
00:19:10,864 --> 00:19:12,824
Speaker 2: his behalf in his wholl Teen's behalf.

459
00:19:12,984 --> 00:19:16,624
Speaker 3: It's so calculate because he's not a good actor, so

460
00:19:16,664 --> 00:19:18,944
Speaker 3: you can see where they cut scenes and then William's

461
00:19:19,024 --> 00:19:22,584
Speaker 3: just like, thank you Eugene for joining me today. I'm like,

462
00:19:22,664 --> 00:19:23,184
Speaker 3: oh my god.

463
00:19:23,464 --> 00:19:25,144
Speaker 1: He's like I'm trying to say my line.

464
00:19:25,984 --> 00:19:27,984
Speaker 3: It's very cute. We'll put a link to it in

465
00:19:28,024 --> 00:19:29,904
Speaker 3: the show notes. But it's on Apple TV and now

466
00:19:29,944 --> 00:19:32,424
Speaker 3: I've just started watching all the other episodes. I'm obsessed

467
00:19:32,464 --> 00:19:34,384
Speaker 3: with Eugene Levy. He is so so funny.

468
00:19:36,544 --> 00:19:40,464
Speaker 2: So a very unexpected show has become very popular in Australia,

469
00:19:41,064 --> 00:19:44,384
Speaker 2: and that is the American version of Dancing with the Stars,

470
00:19:44,904 --> 00:19:46,464
Speaker 2: which is taking place at the moment.

471
00:19:46,624 --> 00:19:48,664
Speaker 3: We've talked about it a few times, sorry.

472
00:19:48,464 --> 00:19:49,064
Speaker 1: Eve anytimes.

473
00:19:49,144 --> 00:19:51,664
Speaker 2: So obviously the kind of inn for Australia that's a

474
00:19:51,664 --> 00:19:55,664
Speaker 2: no brainer is that Robert Irwin, young sexy crocodile hunter

475
00:19:55,864 --> 00:19:58,504
Speaker 2: teamer boy that we've all watched grow up, is competing

476
00:19:58,504 --> 00:20:00,264
Speaker 2: this season the best.

477
00:20:00,064 --> 00:20:00,744
Speaker 3: One on the show.

478
00:20:00,944 --> 00:20:01,384
Speaker 1: Do you think so?

479
00:20:01,584 --> 00:20:04,384
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, yeah, I guess so. He's definitely he's definitely

480
00:20:04,424 --> 00:20:05,704
Speaker 2: throwing everything behind it.

481
00:20:05,784 --> 00:20:07,664
Speaker 3: I mean he's better than Dylan Efron.

482
00:20:07,384 --> 00:20:09,904
Speaker 2: Which, well, here's the thing, like, yes, there's an Australian

483
00:20:09,944 --> 00:20:11,944
Speaker 2: person that we all care about it. But I feel

484
00:20:11,984 --> 00:20:15,224
Speaker 2: like this season in particular, apparently it's super popular in

485
00:20:15,224 --> 00:20:17,664
Speaker 2: the US, like everyone's invested. Heaps the people who don't

486
00:20:17,704 --> 00:20:21,424
Speaker 2: usually watch Dancing with the Stars watching like not just

487
00:20:21,464 --> 00:20:24,584
Speaker 2: watching the clips online, but watching the full show. And

488
00:20:24,784 --> 00:20:29,144
Speaker 2: in Australia people also very tuned into it and it

489
00:20:29,224 --> 00:20:31,064
Speaker 2: is to do with the car. So obviously Robert Irwin,

490
00:20:31,104 --> 00:20:34,464
Speaker 2: people love him. Dylan Efron Zac Efron's very hot brother,

491
00:20:34,904 --> 00:20:37,384
Speaker 2: so many people are lusting after him. Said they're tuning

492
00:20:37,384 --> 00:20:41,744
Speaker 2: in to watch Alex Earl, who's one of the yay

493
00:20:41,904 --> 00:20:44,384
Speaker 2: and apparently she's like really good. While I was watching her,

494
00:20:44,424 --> 00:20:46,384
Speaker 2: they had Disney Night this week, so I was watching

495
00:20:46,424 --> 00:20:49,704
Speaker 2: her malificen dances really good. And I think that in

496
00:20:49,784 --> 00:20:52,464
Speaker 2: with her is obviously she's one of the biggest influencers

497
00:20:52,464 --> 00:20:54,184
Speaker 2: in the world. She's one of the biggest TikTokers in

498
00:20:54,224 --> 00:20:56,184
Speaker 2: the world, but we've never seen her do like a

499
00:20:56,264 --> 00:21:00,144
Speaker 2: very traditional broadcast show like this, so you're getting access

500
00:21:00,144 --> 00:21:01,184
Speaker 2: to her in a different.

501
00:21:00,864 --> 00:21:02,304
Speaker 3: Way and to a different audience.

502
00:21:02,504 --> 00:21:03,264
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

503
00:21:03,304 --> 00:21:05,144
Speaker 2: And also people were just like, how is she going

504
00:21:05,184 --> 00:21:08,224
Speaker 2: to come across doing these dances, and so she's even

505
00:21:08,264 --> 00:21:10,184
Speaker 2: got a bigger fan base as that was possible from

506
00:21:10,464 --> 00:21:13,184
Speaker 2: the millions and millions of people that followed her. And

507
00:21:13,224 --> 00:21:15,904
Speaker 2: then we also have Ilaria Baldwin.

508
00:21:16,304 --> 00:21:19,664
Speaker 1: Oh God, who are yes? I let to say about her?

509
00:21:19,944 --> 00:21:21,864
Speaker 3: I thought she was too busy with her show. Keeping

510
00:21:21,944 --> 00:21:23,024
Speaker 3: up with the Baldwin.

511
00:21:22,704 --> 00:21:26,184
Speaker 2: Is some what is called it's definitely not keeps. I mean,

512
00:21:26,224 --> 00:21:28,544
Speaker 2: you're fine, that's keeping up with the Kardashians. She is

513
00:21:28,584 --> 00:21:31,904
Speaker 2: a busy woman. I'll give her that. She's raising seven children.

514
00:21:32,384 --> 00:21:35,024
Speaker 2: She also shoots reality TV shows. She wrote a book.

515
00:21:35,144 --> 00:21:37,664
Speaker 2: She and her oldest sort of Carmen, are launching a podcast.

516
00:21:38,224 --> 00:21:40,144
Speaker 2: She's all about it and she has been competing on

517
00:21:40,264 --> 00:21:42,744
Speaker 2: She's launching a podcast, yeah, with her daughter Carmen. It's

518
00:21:42,744 --> 00:21:47,704
Speaker 2: called growing Up Together in Spain. They don't live in Spain.

519
00:21:47,464 --> 00:21:48,144
Speaker 1: So obviously.

520
00:21:48,184 --> 00:21:50,624
Speaker 2: That is the thing about Ilaria Baldwin is that she

521
00:21:50,744 --> 00:21:52,064
Speaker 2: was always quite well known.

522
00:21:52,104 --> 00:21:54,264
Speaker 1: When she married Alec Baldwin.

523
00:21:54,024 --> 00:21:57,184
Speaker 2: Many years ago, their wedding photos were in all the magazines,

524
00:21:57,224 --> 00:21:59,824
Speaker 2: and when they had their first Saorughter Carmen her photo

525
00:21:59,984 --> 00:22:01,384
Speaker 2: like debut in People magazine.

526
00:22:01,384 --> 00:22:02,224
Speaker 1: It was a huge thing.

527
00:22:02,504 --> 00:22:04,824
Speaker 2: And then Ilaria started going and.

528
00:22:04,784 --> 00:22:06,264
Speaker 1: Doing her own sorts of appearances.

529
00:22:06,264 --> 00:22:09,344
Speaker 2: She would go on talk shows, she would appear in magazines,

530
00:22:09,584 --> 00:22:11,624
Speaker 2: she would you know, she was doing the circuit. And

531
00:22:11,624 --> 00:22:14,024
Speaker 2: then she started becoming like an influencer on her socials

532
00:22:14,064 --> 00:22:17,264
Speaker 2: and had quite a big following. And the crux of

533
00:22:17,344 --> 00:22:20,384
Speaker 2: this was that she was a Spanish woman, and so

534
00:22:20,504 --> 00:22:22,824
Speaker 2: she would go on cook shows and do like Spanish cooking,

535
00:22:23,224 --> 00:22:26,504
Speaker 2: and she would feature in like Spanish magazines and it

536
00:22:26,584 --> 00:22:28,064
Speaker 2: was a big thing too, was a big stick with

537
00:22:28,104 --> 00:22:30,704
Speaker 2: like Alec Baldwin would go on talk shows and be like, oh,

538
00:22:30,744 --> 00:22:31,744
Speaker 2: you know, my wife's so crazy.

539
00:22:31,744 --> 00:22:32,864
Speaker 1: She's Spanish, so she's really.

540
00:22:32,744 --> 00:22:34,744
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah and all this sort of stuff, and

541
00:22:34,784 --> 00:22:36,384
Speaker 2: so that was kind of their stick. And though she

542
00:22:36,464 --> 00:22:39,624
Speaker 2: was a lot younger than him and they had so

543
00:22:39,744 --> 00:22:44,064
Speaker 2: many children together, people had this weird fascination with them. Yeah,

544
00:22:44,104 --> 00:22:46,824
Speaker 2: and then a few years ago something interesting happened.

545
00:22:47,304 --> 00:22:51,024
Speaker 3: We find out she's not Spanish but in fact American.

546
00:22:51,944 --> 00:22:52,224
Speaker 1: Yes.

547
00:22:52,504 --> 00:22:55,624
Speaker 2: So it's so funny because I typed in Ilaria Baldwin

548
00:22:55,824 --> 00:22:57,784
Speaker 2: just to sort of I think I was even just checking,

549
00:22:57,784 --> 00:22:59,384
Speaker 2: like what dance she did this week, or like I

550
00:22:59,424 --> 00:23:02,104
Speaker 2: literally just typed in Ilaria that's it, And it came

551
00:23:02,184 --> 00:23:04,984
Speaker 2: up to the top of Google is Alaria Baldwin Spanish?

552
00:23:05,224 --> 00:23:06,984
Speaker 1: And then you know how it has does Google say?

553
00:23:07,224 --> 00:23:10,104
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has the AI when you type a thing

554
00:23:10,144 --> 00:23:12,584
Speaker 2: to go yet the AI summary at the top. I'm like,

555
00:23:12,624 --> 00:23:14,904
Speaker 2: I wasn't asking Google, but it's like, I'll tell you

556
00:23:15,184 --> 00:23:18,464
Speaker 2: it said no, Ilaria Baldwin is not Spanish. She was

557
00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:22,984
Speaker 2: born in Boston, Massachusetts, and is of English, French, Canadian, German, Irish,

558
00:23:23,024 --> 00:23:26,464
Speaker 2: and Slovak descent, though her family now resides in Spain.

559
00:23:26,784 --> 00:23:29,624
Speaker 2: And then they said a controversy erupted in December twenty

560
00:23:29,664 --> 00:23:33,184
Speaker 2: twenty when social media users accused her of misrepresenting her

561
00:23:33,224 --> 00:23:37,944
Speaker 2: Spanish heritage and faking a Spanish accent, leading to widespread

562
00:23:38,024 --> 00:23:41,424
Speaker 2: public discussion about her claims of a dual cultural upbringing

563
00:23:41,744 --> 00:23:44,264
Speaker 2: and her confusing public statements on the matter.

564
00:23:44,624 --> 00:23:46,344
Speaker 3: Oh God, that year, I remember that.

565
00:23:46,384 --> 00:23:49,384
Speaker 1: So because it happened, you know what I would do?

566
00:23:49,424 --> 00:23:51,224
Speaker 3: You know what I wouldn't do after something like that

567
00:23:51,224 --> 00:23:53,224
Speaker 3: came about me make a reality TV show?

568
00:23:53,544 --> 00:23:57,264
Speaker 2: I know, but it kind of did like humanize them

569
00:23:57,264 --> 00:24:01,384
Speaker 2: to people because she had had this scandal of pretending

570
00:24:01,424 --> 00:24:03,944
Speaker 2: to be Spanish. And then he was obviously involved in

571
00:24:03,984 --> 00:24:09,184
Speaker 2: the rust shooting incident, but where a woman unfortunately died

572
00:24:09,224 --> 00:24:12,144
Speaker 2: and then another person was shot, and Alec Baldwin went

573
00:24:12,184 --> 00:24:14,064
Speaker 2: to trial for that and then like the armor on

574
00:24:14,104 --> 00:24:16,184
Speaker 2: the set went to jail and it was it was

575
00:24:16,184 --> 00:24:19,744
Speaker 2: a whole huge situation. So then they've made this reality

576
00:24:19,784 --> 00:24:23,144
Speaker 2: TV series which a lot of people I think started

577
00:24:23,144 --> 00:24:25,384
Speaker 2: watching us like a bit of a joke, but then

578
00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:27,704
Speaker 2: people started to really you know the reality TV can

579
00:24:27,784 --> 00:24:28,104
Speaker 2: do that.

580
00:24:28,424 --> 00:24:30,144
Speaker 1: You start to warm to them and you see them

581
00:24:30,144 --> 00:24:32,424
Speaker 1: with their kids, and I feel most like, yeah, yeah,

582
00:24:32,464 --> 00:24:35,104
Speaker 1: you would fall hook it. You'd be like, I love

583
00:24:35,104 --> 00:24:37,544
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwyn. He's the best. Dat, she's the best.

584
00:24:37,584 --> 00:24:40,184
Speaker 3: Mom always does that to me. I don't have a backbone.

585
00:24:40,504 --> 00:24:43,024
Speaker 2: It's the it's the force of storytelling. It's so funny

586
00:24:43,064 --> 00:24:45,584
Speaker 2: because I was obviously aware of who Ilaria Baldwin was

587
00:24:45,624 --> 00:24:47,504
Speaker 2: and I saw her pop up and talk shows and

588
00:24:47,544 --> 00:24:50,384
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, that's you know, she's she speaks

589
00:24:50,424 --> 00:24:52,424
Speaker 2: quite good English for someone who's first.

590
00:24:54,504 --> 00:24:56,024
Speaker 1: I used to see her on talk shows. Yeah, she

591
00:24:56,024 --> 00:24:57,104
Speaker 1: speaks really good English for.

592
00:24:57,064 --> 00:24:59,424
Speaker 2: Someone who's like it's not her first language, like I

593
00:24:59,464 --> 00:25:00,504
Speaker 2: don't speak two languages.

594
00:25:00,544 --> 00:25:01,584
Speaker 1: Who might have judged someone.

595
00:25:01,984 --> 00:25:04,464
Speaker 2: And when she would like forget words and not be

596
00:25:04,504 --> 00:25:06,544
Speaker 2: able to say phrases in English and this.

597
00:25:06,584 --> 00:25:08,704
Speaker 3: Was like cucumber or something, Yeah.

598
00:25:08,584 --> 00:25:10,304
Speaker 1: Yeah, how you say cook?

599
00:25:10,904 --> 00:25:17,104
Speaker 2: Yeah that clip is so damning because it was yeah,

600
00:25:17,104 --> 00:25:18,104
Speaker 2: she's on a cooking show.

601
00:25:18,104 --> 00:25:20,344
Speaker 1: Because she would do these like demonstrating.

602
00:25:22,504 --> 00:25:23,864
Speaker 3: We went through that as a culture.

603
00:25:25,824 --> 00:25:28,544
Speaker 2: We were on Christmas holidays, we wouldn't be doing the pod.

604
00:25:29,024 --> 00:25:31,064
Speaker 2: And I was trying to explain to my sisters, to

605
00:25:31,104 --> 00:25:33,384
Speaker 2: my lawyer sister and my doctor sister, who don't follow

606
00:25:33,464 --> 00:25:35,784
Speaker 2: pop culture, and I was like, you don't understand.

607
00:25:35,944 --> 00:25:38,904
Speaker 1: She's not Spanish. And I were like, stop talking to me.

608
00:25:39,024 --> 00:25:41,424
Speaker 2: I don't care about this. It was a really lonely

609
00:25:41,464 --> 00:25:43,424
Speaker 2: time for me. I don't have anyone to communicate.

610
00:25:43,504 --> 00:25:45,384
Speaker 3: Should have flown up, see you, Yeah, you.

611
00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:47,024
Speaker 2: Should have come to Queensland. We could have done an

612
00:25:47,024 --> 00:25:50,544
Speaker 2: emergency spill episode. So yeah, so she yeah, So, if

613
00:25:50,544 --> 00:25:52,264
Speaker 2: you haven't seen that clip, she's on a cooking show

614
00:25:52,304 --> 00:25:54,784
Speaker 2: and she's explained the ingredients and she struggles with all

615
00:25:54,824 --> 00:25:56,184
Speaker 2: of them. But then she goes, yeah, how do you

616
00:25:56,184 --> 00:25:58,864
Speaker 2: say in the host like cucumber?

617
00:25:58,944 --> 00:26:00,224
Speaker 1: She's like, oh you come by?

618
00:26:00,304 --> 00:26:06,384
Speaker 2: Yes, which, again, someone who was Spanish, that's not funny.

619
00:26:06,504 --> 00:26:09,384
Speaker 3: Yes, When I originally saw the clip for a woman.

620
00:26:09,224 --> 00:26:11,824
Speaker 2: Who was born and raised America for her entire life

621
00:26:12,064 --> 00:26:14,704
Speaker 2: and lived here for her entire adult life, a little bit.

622
00:26:14,544 --> 00:26:16,904
Speaker 3: Funny, A little bit funny, especially when your whole Spanish

623
00:26:16,944 --> 00:26:18,064
Speaker 3: accent is completely fake.

624
00:26:18,264 --> 00:26:21,504
Speaker 2: She even had the people of Spain fulled because she

625
00:26:21,544 --> 00:26:24,104
Speaker 2: would be on the covers of like Spanish magazines talking

626
00:26:24,104 --> 00:26:27,424
Speaker 2: about like her Spanish upbringing in her family and how she.

627
00:26:27,424 --> 00:26:29,064
Speaker 1: Was so much to descent.

628
00:26:29,744 --> 00:26:32,464
Speaker 2: So then I think it all started, like someone just

629
00:26:32,504 --> 00:26:35,744
Speaker 2: tweeted like, isn't it interesting how Hilaria Baldwin has convinced

630
00:26:35,784 --> 00:26:38,504
Speaker 2: us all that she's Spanish when she's not, And that

631
00:26:38,624 --> 00:26:41,464
Speaker 2: kind of got picked up and just went crazy, and

632
00:26:41,784 --> 00:26:43,184
Speaker 2: she did try to explain it.

633
00:26:43,624 --> 00:26:44,664
Speaker 1: But here's my thing.

634
00:26:44,504 --> 00:26:46,624
Speaker 2: About Laria Baldwin and the reason I bringing up this

635
00:26:46,704 --> 00:26:48,544
Speaker 2: week is not because she's on Dancing with the Stars,

636
00:26:48,824 --> 00:26:51,264
Speaker 2: but because she did this big long form interview on

637
00:26:51,304 --> 00:26:54,504
Speaker 2: the podcast Not Skinny, Not Fat with Amanda Hirsh. Yeah,

638
00:26:54,544 --> 00:26:58,664
Speaker 2: and she kind of buckled down on her story, which

639
00:26:58,704 --> 00:27:01,024
Speaker 2: is what I found interesting, because here's the thing. If

640
00:27:01,064 --> 00:27:04,744
Speaker 2: your story checks out, then you should have the facts

641
00:27:04,744 --> 00:27:06,584
Speaker 2: and the background to back that up, right.

642
00:27:06,784 --> 00:27:07,544
Speaker 3: Yeah.

643
00:27:07,784 --> 00:27:10,824
Speaker 2: Like if you said to me, I'm Spanish, and I said, okay,

644
00:27:10,824 --> 00:27:12,184
Speaker 2: can you tell me a bit about that, you would

645
00:27:12,224 --> 00:27:14,264
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, like I was born in America, but

646
00:27:14,304 --> 00:27:16,384
Speaker 2: I was like raised in Spain for this amount of years,

647
00:27:16,424 --> 00:27:18,824
Speaker 2: like I lived here, like I went to school in Spain,

648
00:27:18,904 --> 00:27:22,024
Speaker 2: like something to kind of back that up, but Laria

649
00:27:22,104 --> 00:27:24,304
Speaker 2: Borwen has like never really been able to do that.

650
00:27:24,704 --> 00:27:27,984
Speaker 2: She always like speaks in this very kind of flowery,

651
00:27:28,264 --> 00:27:31,184
Speaker 2: over the top and like never actually gives any detail

652
00:27:31,584 --> 00:27:33,504
Speaker 2: when asked her about her background, she.

653
00:27:33,504 --> 00:27:36,664
Speaker 3: Always puts it back on to the public in a

654
00:27:36,704 --> 00:27:39,504
Speaker 3: way that's like, you guys are being so weird for

655
00:27:39,584 --> 00:27:42,184
Speaker 3: like thinking about this for so like, yeah, bullying.

656
00:27:42,904 --> 00:27:44,624
Speaker 2: And what I thought was when I saw her pop

657
00:27:44,744 --> 00:27:46,784
Speaker 2: up on the Not Skinny but Not Sad podcast, I

658
00:27:46,904 --> 00:27:48,784
Speaker 2: was just like, oh, I'm really interested to listen to

659
00:27:48,824 --> 00:27:51,464
Speaker 2: this because Amanda hersh the host of that, and she

660
00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:54,864
Speaker 2: also has a really popular Instagram account posted a lot

661
00:27:54,904 --> 00:27:57,064
Speaker 2: about Alaria when this was coming out, like not the

662
00:27:57,104 --> 00:27:58,504
Speaker 2: mean way, but she was just like, oh my god,

663
00:27:58,544 --> 00:28:00,384
Speaker 2: this is like everyone else at the time, like this

664
00:28:00,424 --> 00:28:00,904
Speaker 2: is crazy.

665
00:28:00,904 --> 00:28:01,344
Speaker 1: What is this?

666
00:28:01,544 --> 00:28:03,784
Speaker 3: She did what like we did at the time where

667
00:28:03,824 --> 00:28:06,784
Speaker 3: it was like here's what happened, here are the facts. Yeah,

668
00:28:06,784 --> 00:28:09,744
Speaker 3: this is why it's so crazy, which is it is crazy.

669
00:28:09,784 --> 00:28:10,344
Speaker 3: It's insane.

670
00:28:10,624 --> 00:28:13,224
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so crazy. And so when I was listening

671
00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:14,824
Speaker 2: to the podcast, I'm like, oh, were you what.

672
00:28:14,784 --> 00:28:16,664
Speaker 3: Were you going to expect? What were we expecting from

673
00:28:16,664 --> 00:28:17,184
Speaker 3: this interview?

674
00:28:17,304 --> 00:28:19,184
Speaker 2: I thought that Amanda would sort of say to her,

675
00:28:19,224 --> 00:28:23,464
Speaker 2: but like, why did you do to be Spanish?

676
00:28:23,624 --> 00:28:23,824
Speaker 1: Yeah?

677
00:28:23,824 --> 00:28:25,624
Speaker 2: I just maybe thought that she would sort of say, like,

678
00:28:25,624 --> 00:28:27,464
Speaker 2: because I've seen her do this with people, she'd be like,

679
00:28:28,024 --> 00:28:29,544
Speaker 2: you know, because she does a live interviews with like

680
00:28:29,584 --> 00:28:31,264
Speaker 2: reality TV stars and stuff, and they'll be.

681
00:28:31,224 --> 00:28:33,304
Speaker 1: Like, oh, like I didn't know, and she's like, oh,

682
00:28:33,424 --> 00:28:34,104
Speaker 1: like she's.

683
00:28:33,944 --> 00:28:35,624
Speaker 2: Really nice to the guests, like she's not trying to

684
00:28:35,824 --> 00:28:37,824
Speaker 2: like she treats them like a guest, like not that

685
00:28:37,864 --> 00:28:40,424
Speaker 2: she's interrogating them, but she'll say something like, oh, but

686
00:28:40,544 --> 00:28:42,544
Speaker 2: like you did know that this camera was on, and

687
00:28:42,584 --> 00:28:43,944
Speaker 2: you did know this was gonna blow up, and you

688
00:28:44,024 --> 00:28:45,704
Speaker 2: didn't know that person was going to say that. Like

689
00:28:45,744 --> 00:28:47,704
Speaker 2: she does sort of say like, just tell me the truth.

690
00:28:48,024 --> 00:28:50,504
Speaker 2: So I thought she'd say to Ilaria, but why did

691
00:28:50,544 --> 00:28:52,824
Speaker 2: you pretend to be Spanish when you spent your whole

692
00:28:52,864 --> 00:28:53,624
Speaker 2: life at America?

693
00:28:53,744 --> 00:28:55,544
Speaker 1: Or like how much time did you just something?

694
00:28:56,144 --> 00:28:58,424
Speaker 2: Or like how did your accent get so thick when

695
00:28:58,464 --> 00:29:01,464
Speaker 2: you hadn't lived you know something to sort of or

696
00:29:01,544 --> 00:29:03,304
Speaker 2: like were you aware when you were giving all these

697
00:29:03,304 --> 00:29:07,104
Speaker 2: interviews that it was misleading or something, especially.

698
00:29:06,744 --> 00:29:09,504
Speaker 3: Because she like had talked about it before on her

699
00:29:09,544 --> 00:29:13,144
Speaker 3: podcast so much. Yeah, and like she was pretty obvious. Yeah,

700
00:29:13,144 --> 00:29:14,744
Speaker 3: and she was like it was obvious that she was

701
00:29:14,784 --> 00:29:16,464
Speaker 3: like this is a wild thing for someone to do.

702
00:29:16,584 --> 00:29:18,784
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then when she gets on the podcast, she

703
00:29:18,824 --> 00:29:20,744
Speaker 2: sort of says to her like, oh, Amanda says to Hilaria,

704
00:29:20,824 --> 00:29:22,064
Speaker 2: like I just want to let you know, like I

705
00:29:22,104 --> 00:29:24,744
Speaker 2: did post about that at the time, and Alaria kind

706
00:29:24,744 --> 00:29:26,544
Speaker 2: of last, so she goes, I know everyone was so

707
00:29:26,624 --> 00:29:29,024
Speaker 2: like it was COVID. Everyone was so bored like back then,

708
00:29:29,104 --> 00:29:30,624
Speaker 2: like no one had anything to say, and they kind

709
00:29:30,664 --> 00:29:31,224
Speaker 2: of laugh it off.

710
00:29:31,264 --> 00:29:32,744
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not what happened.

711
00:29:33,224 --> 00:29:34,864
Speaker 3: Everyone just blames everything on COVID.

712
00:29:35,224 --> 00:29:35,864
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

713
00:29:35,984 --> 00:29:37,544
Speaker 2: It's like when all the airlines, I also know the

714
00:29:37,584 --> 00:29:39,504
Speaker 2: flights aren't going because people have forgotten how to fly.

715
00:29:39,624 --> 00:29:42,064
Speaker 2: It's like, no, you made everyone, you fired everyone, and

716
00:29:42,144 --> 00:29:43,544
Speaker 2: everyone I don't want to fly the plane.

717
00:29:43,584 --> 00:29:45,784
Speaker 3: And also like we were there, Like people talk about

718
00:29:45,824 --> 00:29:48,024
Speaker 3: COVID as if like only they were going.

719
00:29:47,824 --> 00:29:49,784
Speaker 1: Through and saw this day. I remember it happening.

720
00:29:49,784 --> 00:29:51,224
Speaker 3: I was like I was there, I remember this happen.

721
00:29:51,264 --> 00:29:51,744
Speaker 1: Yeah.

722
00:29:51,784 --> 00:29:54,504
Speaker 2: And also like we weren't completely in lockdown because I

723
00:29:54,544 --> 00:29:58,984
Speaker 2: was in Queensland with my family, so I remember, so

724
00:29:59,104 --> 00:30:01,664
Speaker 2: don't get Brandon, Chris, don't tell me I was bored.

725
00:30:01,704 --> 00:30:03,384
Speaker 1: I was very busy. I would have had Emily in

726
00:30:03,424 --> 00:30:05,464
Speaker 1: Paris to watch out of, like Christmas shopping and a

727
00:30:05,504 --> 00:30:05,824
Speaker 1: lot going on.

728
00:30:06,064 --> 00:30:07,584
Speaker 3: Tell me I'm bored Alaria.

729
00:30:07,384 --> 00:30:10,064
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So they kind of both laughed off and

730
00:30:10,064 --> 00:30:12,824
Speaker 2: then do that thing. It sounds like I hate Larry Baldwin.

731
00:30:12,904 --> 00:30:14,784
Speaker 2: I don't actually have a lot of affection for her.

732
00:30:15,064 --> 00:30:16,784
Speaker 2: And I think if you want to pretend to be Spanish,

733
00:30:16,784 --> 00:30:19,104
Speaker 2: you'd be Spanish. That's totally fine.

734
00:30:19,424 --> 00:30:21,824
Speaker 1: But either lean to the line.

735
00:30:21,904 --> 00:30:24,464
Speaker 3: Or say double down, or just be like, yeah, that

736
00:30:24,584 --> 00:30:25,504
Speaker 3: was wild and I did that.

737
00:30:25,584 --> 00:30:28,064
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, like that crazy. I got in a bit

738
00:30:28,064 --> 00:30:31,864
Speaker 1: of my mind. We're all crazy during I just.

739
00:30:31,824 --> 00:30:33,784
Speaker 2: Say I was getting booked more being Spanish, so I

740
00:30:33,864 --> 00:30:36,664
Speaker 2: leant into it. But here's what she did on that podcast,

741
00:30:36,664 --> 00:30:39,024
Speaker 2: and what she does a lot is she goes she

742
00:30:39,144 --> 00:30:42,304
Speaker 2: kind of like defers this very angelic side of her

743
00:30:42,464 --> 00:30:45,424
Speaker 2: where she doesn't address any of the facts. The facts

744
00:30:45,464 --> 00:30:47,944
Speaker 2: is that she was born in Boston, she was raised

745
00:30:47,944 --> 00:30:50,864
Speaker 2: in Boston. She went to school, I believe, primary school

746
00:30:50,864 --> 00:30:53,344
Speaker 2: and high school all the way through in Boston.

747
00:30:53,024 --> 00:30:55,064
Speaker 3: Which is the fact that it also Amanda knows.

748
00:30:55,144 --> 00:30:57,584
Speaker 2: Yay, that everyone kind of knows, but no one ever

749
00:30:57,624 --> 00:31:00,944
Speaker 2: like really pushes her on it. So it's possible that

750
00:31:01,024 --> 00:31:03,624
Speaker 2: she spent a lot of holidays in Spain, and I

751
00:31:03,624 --> 00:31:05,344
Speaker 2: think that is true. I think her family would go

752
00:31:05,384 --> 00:31:07,664
Speaker 2: to Spain on their holidays, and I think that they did.

753
00:31:07,664 --> 00:31:10,344
Speaker 2: Her family there, and her parents definitely retire to Spain

754
00:31:10,664 --> 00:31:13,224
Speaker 2: and her brother moved to Spain. And there's a partner

755
00:31:13,344 --> 00:31:16,384
Speaker 2: in this podcast where she's like, I was crying to

756
00:31:16,384 --> 00:31:18,184
Speaker 2: my brother on the phone when it was scandal was

757
00:31:18,184 --> 00:31:20,784
Speaker 2: blowing up, and he's like, Laria, I'm in Spain and

758
00:31:20,824 --> 00:31:22,824
Speaker 2: you're talking to me in Spanish, like, do you know

759
00:31:22,944 --> 00:31:24,944
Speaker 2: it's crazy that people think you're not from Spain?

760
00:31:25,344 --> 00:31:27,144
Speaker 1: And I was like, that also doesn't mean that you're

761
00:31:27,184 --> 00:31:29,744
Speaker 1: Spanish just because your brother relocated it.

762
00:31:29,864 --> 00:31:31,944
Speaker 2: A lot of people relocate to my your car It's

763
00:31:31,984 --> 00:31:36,424
Speaker 2: like a really popular like tourist or like retirement destination

764
00:31:36,504 --> 00:31:37,864
Speaker 2: for people because it's really beautiful.

765
00:31:37,904 --> 00:31:40,464
Speaker 3: It's like when your third cousin one's removed, like moves

766
00:31:40,464 --> 00:31:43,344
Speaker 3: to the US. I'm also, yeah.

767
00:31:43,784 --> 00:31:45,824
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of crazy. It So again it sounds

768
00:31:45,824 --> 00:31:47,904
Speaker 2: like I hate Alaria Ball when I don't. I just

769
00:31:47,904 --> 00:31:49,464
Speaker 2: hate when she does this thing is what she's done

770
00:31:49,464 --> 00:31:51,264
Speaker 2: on them not skinny but not that fat podcast.

771
00:31:51,304 --> 00:31:53,184
Speaker 3: She's just starting us into thinking we're crazy.

772
00:31:53,304 --> 00:31:57,784
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like we're judging her for liking other languages,

773
00:31:57,864 --> 00:32:00,064
Speaker 2: which is one hundred percent not that's how I'm doing.

774
00:32:00,384 --> 00:32:03,144
Speaker 1: So in this what she's doing exactly.

775
00:32:03,864 --> 00:32:07,024
Speaker 2: So in this interview, she goes, you know, I just

776
00:32:07,144 --> 00:32:11,104
Speaker 2: don't think it's bad to have two cultures, and I

777
00:32:11,224 --> 00:32:13,704
Speaker 2: don't think it's bad to speak two languages.

778
00:32:13,864 --> 00:32:14,904
Speaker 1: And she's making it seem.

779
00:32:14,664 --> 00:32:17,584
Speaker 3: Like she's just making she's putting words in them Outhally,

780
00:32:17,664 --> 00:32:20,184
Speaker 3: no one said it's bad to speak two languages, so

781
00:32:20,224 --> 00:32:21,504
Speaker 3: many people across the world do.

782
00:32:21,704 --> 00:32:24,064
Speaker 2: Isn't like Spanish, one of the most spoken languages in

783
00:32:24,104 --> 00:32:25,024
Speaker 2: the whole world.

784
00:32:24,984 --> 00:32:26,544
Speaker 3: Bad for women to speak.

785
00:32:27,224 --> 00:32:29,864
Speaker 2: That is also what she's alluding to. She was like,

786
00:32:29,904 --> 00:32:31,944
Speaker 2: you know, I speak two languages and I've raised my

787
00:32:32,064 --> 00:32:34,144
Speaker 2: children to speak both languages, and I know that you

788
00:32:34,224 --> 00:32:37,064
Speaker 2: all think that that's bad, but I don't think it is.

789
00:32:37,104 --> 00:32:39,424
Speaker 2: And it's like, literally, no one is upset that you

790
00:32:39,504 --> 00:32:40,224
Speaker 2: speak Spanish.

791
00:32:40,224 --> 00:32:43,464
Speaker 1: That is very impressive. You're teaching your children to speak Spanish.

792
00:32:43,664 --> 00:32:44,704
Speaker 1: Also very impressive.

793
00:32:44,944 --> 00:32:48,104
Speaker 2: It's a very spoken language in America, Like, it's very

794
00:32:48,184 --> 00:32:50,664
Speaker 2: helpful to have, and it's spoken in so many countries

795
00:32:50,704 --> 00:32:53,944
Speaker 2: across the world. It's probably one of the most useful

796
00:32:53,984 --> 00:32:56,424
Speaker 2: languages to have, and a lot of people are bilingual

797
00:32:56,424 --> 00:32:58,624
Speaker 2: and that is a great thing. No, literally, no one

798
00:32:58,664 --> 00:33:01,344
Speaker 2: is saying that. What we're saying to you is that

799
00:33:01,384 --> 00:33:04,704
Speaker 2: you pretended to be a Spanish woman to get airtime

800
00:33:04,744 --> 00:33:09,424
Speaker 2: on cooking shows. She just will not hear it.

801
00:33:09,584 --> 00:33:12,024
Speaker 3: She will not hear it. But I think, Amanda Herd.

802
00:33:12,224 --> 00:33:13,824
Speaker 1: Do you think, yeah, what did you think listening?

803
00:33:13,864 --> 00:33:15,824
Speaker 2: Because I sent this to you and I said, I

804
00:33:15,904 --> 00:33:18,064
Speaker 2: just listened to this, and I just can't stop thinking

805
00:33:18,104 --> 00:33:20,384
Speaker 2: about the fact that I just wanted to scream ask

806
00:33:20,464 --> 00:33:22,264
Speaker 2: her why she pretended to be Spanish.

807
00:33:22,504 --> 00:33:23,304
Speaker 1: I don't make it a.

808
00:33:23,304 --> 00:33:26,024
Speaker 2: Moral issue of like we're judging women for learning languages.

809
00:33:26,384 --> 00:33:28,064
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's people in the world that are doing that.

810
00:33:28,144 --> 00:33:30,144
Speaker 2: I know there's a big push for tidwives and things,

811
00:33:30,384 --> 00:33:32,624
Speaker 2: but like, not from this audience, the people who are

812
00:33:32,624 --> 00:33:34,704
Speaker 2: consuming it, and not from these women, and definitely not

813
00:33:34,704 --> 00:33:36,304
Speaker 2: from us. So I sent it to you and I

814
00:33:36,344 --> 00:33:37,824
Speaker 2: was like, you need to listen to this. I need

815
00:33:37,824 --> 00:33:38,704
Speaker 2: someone to talk to about it.

816
00:33:38,704 --> 00:33:40,504
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you sent it because the first thing

817
00:33:40,584 --> 00:33:43,904
Speaker 3: I saw were all the comments. Oh really, the actual

818
00:33:44,024 --> 00:33:45,304
Speaker 3: which made me want to listen to it.

819
00:33:45,344 --> 00:33:46,904
Speaker 1: Are they still there? I think they might have gone.

820
00:33:46,944 --> 00:33:47,624
Speaker 3: I want to read them.

821
00:33:48,184 --> 00:33:50,424
Speaker 1: Oh they're still there. Oh Spotify. Okay, I was looking

822
00:33:50,424 --> 00:33:50,624
Speaker 1: on them.

823
00:33:50,704 --> 00:33:52,944
Speaker 3: So these are the comments on them not Skinny but

824
00:33:52,984 --> 00:33:55,144
Speaker 3: not Fat podcast? So these are the comments directed to

825
00:33:55,384 --> 00:33:59,504
Speaker 3: Amanda her, you're pandering to her. It wasn't the misinterpretation

826
00:33:59,584 --> 00:34:03,424
Speaker 3: of Alaria. It was pure grift. Nobody said being bilingual

827
00:34:03,544 --> 00:34:06,104
Speaker 3: is bad, but it is bad to continually lie about

828
00:34:06,144 --> 00:34:08,544
Speaker 3: who you are, where you come from, and pretending you

829
00:34:08,664 --> 00:34:10,984
Speaker 3: carry the same struggles as a whole race you're not

830
00:34:11,104 --> 00:34:14,224
Speaker 3: part of. And also this was very hypocritical of you.

831
00:34:14,664 --> 00:34:16,784
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I hadn't seen that, so I think a

832
00:34:16,824 --> 00:34:19,264
Speaker 2: lot of it. I wasn't saying that. I was just like, yes,

833
00:34:19,624 --> 00:34:21,184
Speaker 2: find this interview hard to listen to?

834
00:34:21,184 --> 00:34:21,224
Speaker 4: You.

835
00:34:21,344 --> 00:34:23,144
Speaker 3: I thought the interview was quite hard to listen to

836
00:34:23,224 --> 00:34:27,064
Speaker 3: because everything I wanted Amanda to ask she didn't. Yeah,

837
00:34:27,104 --> 00:34:29,584
Speaker 3: And I think some of the comments, pecially, a lot

838
00:34:29,624 --> 00:34:31,624
Speaker 3: of the comments are quite terrible. So I don't recommend

839
00:34:31,624 --> 00:34:34,104
Speaker 3: anyone to go read No, that's not nice. It's not nice,

840
00:34:34,184 --> 00:34:36,944
Speaker 3: especially if you're anonymous. But I think a lot of

841
00:34:36,944 --> 00:34:38,984
Speaker 3: the stuff that the comments were saying was stuff that

842
00:34:39,064 --> 00:34:42,624
Speaker 3: I actually agreed to an extent in that because Amanda

843
00:34:42,664 --> 00:34:47,824
Speaker 3: had such a well researched and thought out opinion about

844
00:34:47,824 --> 00:34:51,424
Speaker 3: Alaria before going into this interview, I was annoyed that

845
00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:54,264
Speaker 3: didn't come across in the interview with that. I felt

846
00:34:54,304 --> 00:34:57,304
Speaker 3: like she allowed Alaro to say those things without actually

847
00:34:57,544 --> 00:35:01,144
Speaker 3: checking in on her and being like, that's actually not true,

848
00:35:01,424 --> 00:35:04,944
Speaker 3: Like what Alara was saying was actually factually not true. Yeah,

849
00:35:04,984 --> 00:35:07,144
Speaker 3: And I just wish Amanda said that yeah, because we'd

850
00:35:07,184 --> 00:35:09,104
Speaker 3: have been an opportunity that would have allowed Alari to

851
00:35:09,104 --> 00:35:11,064
Speaker 3: actually been like Okay.

852
00:35:10,984 --> 00:35:12,064
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you have said?

853
00:35:12,104 --> 00:35:13,784
Speaker 2: That situation though, because that's all I was thinking, because

854
00:35:13,784 --> 00:35:16,144
Speaker 2: I mean, that does happen that we talk because we

855
00:35:16,224 --> 00:35:18,624
Speaker 2: talk about people on this podcast and then sometimes we

856
00:35:18,704 --> 00:35:19,824
Speaker 2: do go and interview them.

857
00:35:19,944 --> 00:35:22,184
Speaker 3: But that's the other thing. If I was in and

858
00:35:22,224 --> 00:35:24,464
Speaker 3: I'm such a freaking hypocrite, because if I was in

859
00:35:24,464 --> 00:35:26,304
Speaker 3: the har position, I'd be the exact same.

860
00:35:26,864 --> 00:35:29,784
Speaker 1: You'd be like yeah, I'd be like, yeah, speak another languages.

861
00:35:29,944 --> 00:35:32,784
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I hate society. I hate that

862
00:35:32,864 --> 00:35:35,504
Speaker 3: we're not allowed to speak multiple languages. It's so true,

863
00:35:35,584 --> 00:35:36,664
Speaker 3: like I would be in.

864
00:35:36,624 --> 00:35:39,504
Speaker 1: That fold like a cheap beach. Yeah, but also that's.

865
00:35:39,504 --> 00:35:41,704
Speaker 3: Some people's jobs here, but it's not my job. Like

866
00:35:41,744 --> 00:35:44,144
Speaker 3: if I was like had to interview, like do that

867
00:35:44,184 --> 00:35:47,184
Speaker 3: type of interview with a celebrity, I know I wouldn't

868
00:35:47,184 --> 00:35:48,504
Speaker 3: be the best person for that job.

869
00:35:48,744 --> 00:35:49,704
Speaker 1: It's hard because.

870
00:35:49,504 --> 00:35:52,344
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can't ask them a celebrity about every sort

871
00:35:52,344 --> 00:35:55,224
Speaker 2: of controversy that they've done in an interview, especially they're

872
00:35:55,224 --> 00:35:56,904
Speaker 2: there to talk about a movie. But I think with

873
00:35:57,024 --> 00:35:58,904
Speaker 2: her it is a little bit different because.

874
00:35:58,704 --> 00:36:00,824
Speaker 3: I think I could have just said like kind of

875
00:36:00,864 --> 00:36:02,704
Speaker 3: like not gave in, Like I felt like she gave

876
00:36:02,744 --> 00:36:03,544
Speaker 3: in a little.

877
00:36:03,264 --> 00:36:04,784
Speaker 1: Bit, but I wasn't there.

878
00:36:04,784 --> 00:36:06,264
Speaker 2: I mean again, I'm not going for my high horse

879
00:36:06,264 --> 00:36:08,864
Speaker 2: because I think it is Yeah, when you're interviewing someone

880
00:36:08,904 --> 00:36:11,384
Speaker 2: that's very specific. But I will say, like it is

881
00:36:11,504 --> 00:36:13,784
Speaker 2: a hazard of the business because there are celebrities that

882
00:36:13,864 --> 00:36:16,984
Speaker 2: sometimes we've talked about on this podcast in a very

883
00:36:17,144 --> 00:36:19,384
Speaker 2: like we've like called out their behavior or so we

884
00:36:19,384 --> 00:36:21,184
Speaker 2: don't agree with this and that, and then I will

885
00:36:21,184 --> 00:36:23,624
Speaker 2: get an interview offer like a few months later from there,

886
00:36:23,744 --> 00:36:26,384
Speaker 2: or a few weeks later because they're promoting something and

887
00:36:26,384 --> 00:36:28,904
Speaker 2: they'll be like such and such wants to come on

888
00:36:28,944 --> 00:36:30,664
Speaker 2: the pod but only to talk about her new song,

889
00:36:30,744 --> 00:36:32,584
Speaker 2: or he only wants to talk about his new movie.

890
00:36:32,704 --> 00:36:34,144
Speaker 1: And I'll say like, oh, that's great.

891
00:36:33,984 --> 00:36:36,024
Speaker 2: And we'll definitely give the opportunity to do that, but

892
00:36:36,144 --> 00:36:38,384
Speaker 2: also like we'll just have to address this, this, and

893
00:36:38,424 --> 00:36:40,944
Speaker 2: this because we've said it on the pod. Yeah, Like

894
00:36:40,984 --> 00:36:42,664
Speaker 2: we can't have Tom Cruise on this pod when we've

895
00:36:42,664 --> 00:36:45,304
Speaker 2: talked about all this crazy stuff that he's done and

896
00:36:45,304 --> 00:36:47,704
Speaker 2: then be like tell us about the movie like that's bad.

897
00:36:47,784 --> 00:36:49,664
Speaker 2: Or like when Rita Ora wanted to come on and

898
00:36:49,704 --> 00:36:51,464
Speaker 2: promote her album, like we had just had all these

899
00:36:51,504 --> 00:36:56,224
Speaker 2: discussions about the black fishing situation or the COVID parties

900
00:36:56,264 --> 00:36:57,784
Speaker 2: and all these things. And again not that I would

901
00:36:57,824 --> 00:36:59,824
Speaker 2: have hammered them and said tell me the truth, you're

902
00:36:59,824 --> 00:37:01,664
Speaker 2: a bad person, but I'm like, you can't do a

903
00:37:01,704 --> 00:37:04,824
Speaker 2: podcast episode being like this crazy thing happened and then

904
00:37:04,944 --> 00:37:07,224
Speaker 2: be like not address it when you talk to them.

905
00:37:07,344 --> 00:37:08,384
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it is hard.

906
00:37:08,464 --> 00:37:11,144
Speaker 2: So again I wish no ill will to Laria Baldwin.

907
00:37:11,264 --> 00:37:13,264
Speaker 2: I actually like think if you want to go off

908
00:37:13,264 --> 00:37:15,024
Speaker 2: and like make a reality show and make a podcast.

909
00:37:15,104 --> 00:37:16,384
Speaker 2: You want to be on Dancing with the Start.

910
00:37:16,664 --> 00:37:18,864
Speaker 1: Now it's gone, right, the Spanish is gone.

911
00:37:18,984 --> 00:37:21,984
Speaker 3: It's not even a hint of Spanish. In fact, it

912
00:37:22,064 --> 00:37:25,024
Speaker 3: sounds like a caricature of an American accent, like a

913
00:37:25,064 --> 00:37:26,144
Speaker 3: fake American accent.

914
00:37:26,424 --> 00:37:26,624
Speaker 1: Yah.

915
00:37:27,024 --> 00:37:29,104
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's out of Dancing with the Stars. Yeah.

916
00:37:29,144 --> 00:37:30,544
Speaker 1: I did feel bad for her about that.

917
00:37:30,784 --> 00:37:33,224
Speaker 2: So Yeah, Hilary Thomas as she was born before she

918
00:37:33,264 --> 00:37:36,624
Speaker 2: became Laria Baldwin was very unfortunately eliminated from Dancing with

919
00:37:36,664 --> 00:37:39,624
Speaker 2: the Stars this week. And I don't think there's anything

920
00:37:39,664 --> 00:37:41,384
Speaker 2: wrong with her wanting to be famous, Like I think

921
00:37:41,424 --> 00:37:43,864
Speaker 2: she very much wants to be famous. She wants this

922
00:37:43,904 --> 00:37:46,704
Speaker 2: big following, Like that's fine, just don't grift being Spanish.

923
00:37:46,904 --> 00:37:49,024
Speaker 2: But I did feel bad because I sent you her

924
00:37:49,064 --> 00:37:52,544
Speaker 2: exit interview where she said this, I closed the door

925
00:37:52,584 --> 00:37:56,224
Speaker 2: and dance on tack you no, opening it up has

926
00:37:56,264 --> 00:37:56,664
Speaker 2: been big.

927
00:37:57,744 --> 00:37:59,464
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll close the drogan.

928
00:37:59,544 --> 00:38:01,904
Speaker 2: And a lot of people were being really nasty to her,

929
00:38:01,944 --> 00:38:04,104
Speaker 2: being like when she's like maybe she's like basically saying

930
00:38:04,104 --> 00:38:07,864
Speaker 2: like I've never donce again. But I mean, she was

931
00:38:07,904 --> 00:38:09,464
Speaker 2: trying to be a dance sign and then she broke

932
00:38:09,464 --> 00:38:11,544
Speaker 2: her hip, so that's why she couldn't dance. So it

933
00:38:11,624 --> 00:38:13,304
Speaker 2: is kind of sad when you know that context.

934
00:38:14,704 --> 00:38:17,424
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sad to be missing her on dancing.

935
00:38:17,624 --> 00:38:19,784
Speaker 1: What is it testing? Is that Spanish for sad?

936
00:38:20,104 --> 00:38:22,224
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to ask would you believe that both

937
00:38:22,344 --> 00:38:25,664
Speaker 2: Lara and I not Spanish?

938
00:38:25,744 --> 00:38:26,064
Speaker 3: For God?

939
00:38:27,064 --> 00:38:29,464
Speaker 1: So yeah, we wish her all the best our non Spanish.

940
00:38:29,584 --> 00:38:30,944
Speaker 3: What do you think she's going to do now? Back

941
00:38:30,984 --> 00:38:31,384
Speaker 3: to cooking?

942
00:38:31,824 --> 00:38:33,864
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, she's got seven kids, so she's

943
00:38:33,944 --> 00:38:36,144
Speaker 2: very busy. And then she and Carmen are starting a

944
00:38:36,144 --> 00:38:36,904
Speaker 2: podcast together.

945
00:38:37,984 --> 00:38:39,104
Speaker 3: She's going to do for the podcast.

946
00:38:39,224 --> 00:38:43,744
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be so interesting. Surprise, Yeah, surprise us. Laria

947
00:38:44,184 --> 00:38:44,464
Speaker 1: love you.

948
00:38:46,144 --> 00:38:48,744
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.

949
00:38:48,784 --> 00:38:50,584
Speaker 3: Make sure you follow us on socials. We are on

950
00:38:50,624 --> 00:38:53,784
Speaker 3: TikTok and Instagram at the Spill podcast and we will

951
00:38:53,784 --> 00:38:56,504
Speaker 3: see you tomorrow at six a m. Four weekend watch

952
00:38:56,784 --> 00:39:02,904
Speaker 3: Bye bye