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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome to the Quickie. I'm Claire Murphy. Remember

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Speaker 2: a few weeks ago when we told you about the

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Speaker 2: kit And women's football team and how they've been told

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Speaker 2: they weren't allowed to play this season as their own club.

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Speaker 3: It was disgusting, like you'd see dirty underpants everywhere. They'd

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Speaker 3: big blood and spit all over the toilets, even during

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Speaker 3: our games. Sometimes we would be warming up to play

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Speaker 3: after the senior men and general public men would come

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Speaker 4: And just go and piss in the showers.

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Speaker 3: While we're there warming up, and just nobody would stop

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Speaker 3: that kind of behavior from happening. So it was just

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Speaker 3: it was just rife for really poor culture we were

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Speaker 2: Well, there's been some movement on this story, and so

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Speaker 2: today we're checking in on the girls to see how

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Speaker 2: they're shaping up for season twenty twenty six. But before

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Speaker 2: we do that, here's the latest from the Quickie newsroom.

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Speaker 2: Thursday February nineteen, twenty four years to the day that

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Speaker 2: Ossie ski are illicit can one gold in the Aeriels,

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Speaker 2: Another Ozzie has taken a medal in the sport, with

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Speaker 2: Danielle Scott winning silver. Scott now joins Kamplan and Lydia

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Speaker 2: Lassla as Winter Olympic medalists in the skiing aeriels the

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Speaker 2: veteran coming second in Lavigno without her loved ones, including

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Speaker 2: her husband, at the event to watch, after she told

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Speaker 2: her event because she was feeling so bad about her form.

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Speaker 2: After competing at two World Cup events in Canada in

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Speaker 2: early January and placing nineteenth and twentieth, Scott said she

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Speaker 2: her biggest fans from the games. She says after training

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Speaker 2: for four Olympic Games at this time, she just wasn't

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Speaker 2: prepared for these moments, but the last two Olympics I

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Speaker 2: walked away heartbroken and I just told myself I wasn't

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Speaker 2: prepared to walk away heartbroken again. Meanwhile, Ozzie Ali Hickman

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Speaker 2: has been taken for scans after the snowboarding teens suffered

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Speaker 2: a sternum injury falling in the women's slope style Olympic

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Speaker 2: Final at just sixteen. The Sydney school girl was in

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Speaker 2: fourth spot after the first three runs in the final

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Speaker 2: Lavigno Snow Park, navigating three roils and three jumps down

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Speaker 2: the mountain course. But the Olympic debutante fell during her

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Speaker 2: second run, injuring her sternum. While she was cleared to

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Speaker 2: at the last jump, which again jarred the injury. The

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Speaker 2: Australian Olympic team said she was taken to the Olympic

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Speaker 1: A bruised sternum.

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Speaker 2: Subscription traps and dangerous products bought on marketplaces like Sheen

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Speaker 2: With a new digital focus for consumer protection, the Australian

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Speaker 2: Competition and Consumer Commission will lay out its priorities for

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Speaker 2: the upcoming financial year today, With online retailers to come

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Speaker 2: under increased scrutiny, the regulator widening its focus to digital marketplaces.

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Speaker 2: After a year of heavy scrutiny on supermarket giants, including

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Speaker 2: an ongoing court case against Coals for misleading pricing. Chair

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Speaker 2: of the A Triple Cgina Cascottlieb says they're very concerned

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Speaker 2: to see the proliferation of unsafe products in online mind places,

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Speaker 2: pushing for the major players to sign up to a

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Speaker 2: product safety pledge, one of the reforms being pushed. So far,

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Speaker 2: only Ali Express, Amazon and eBay have signed up to

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Speaker 2: the voluntary pledge to cooperate on product safety. Actress and

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Speaker 2: talk show host would Be Goldberg has spoken out after

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Speaker 2: it was revealed that her name is in the Epstein files.

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Speaker 2: Goldberg explained that her name came up when her people

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Speaker 2: were reaching out to owners of private planes in order

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Speaker 2: Julian Lennon. Her co host On the View then interjected,

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Speaker 2: saying it looks like Epstein said no. Goldberg then said,

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Speaker 2: when this is the only contact she's ever had with

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Speaker 5: When I'm speaking about me because I'm getting dragged, people

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Speaker 4: They're trying to get me to.

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Speaker 5: Get on a plane to get to this thing.

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Speaker 2: For Julian Taylor, Swift has been confirmed by the International

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Speaker 2: Federation of the Phonographic Industry as the official Biggest Selling

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Speaker 2: Global Artist of twenty twenty five. The singer is being

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Speaker 2: marking the sixth time Swift has won the award. It's

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Speaker 2: IFPI Global Artist chart. Swift has now won the award

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Speaker 2: past ten years. Twenty twenty five another landmark year for

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Speaker 2: the thirty six year old, driven by exceptional worldwide engagement

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Speaker 2: her twelfth album, The Life of a Show Girl and

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Speaker 2: the documentary of her tour, The End of an Era.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations are in order for the Quickies podcast stable Mate

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Speaker 2: Mama Me are out coming in at number one on

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Speaker 2: the Australian podcast Rancor for the first time the Triton

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Speaker 2: Podcast Rancor. The industry's monthly league table of shows of

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Speaker 2: both Australian and international creators breaks down the biggest numbers

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Speaker 2: Mumma Mea out Loud rose to the number one position

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Speaker 2: currently listening to right now, The Quickie, just one spot

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Speaker 2: behind at number sixteen. That's What's happening in the world today. Next,

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Speaker 2: the girls of kit and Footy Club said no more

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Speaker 2: to disrespect, but that didn't go down well with the

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Speaker 2: men whose team and league they tried to move away from.

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Speaker 2: But while they've been shut down from returning to the field,

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Speaker 2: there's been an update. We'll feel you in after this

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Speaker 1: Here's a quick TLDR. The team used to.

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Speaker 2: Be part of the Kent And Tigers, a football and

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Speaker 2: netball club in Victoria. They've been a part of the

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Speaker 2: Jane Rowls has been playing for the club for nine

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Speaker 2: seasons and says she knew they were a special group

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Speaker 6: I got there and all the girls were like, Hi, Jane,

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Speaker 6: it's so nice to meet you, Like, just train with us,

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Speaker 6: Like why not just have a kick, like it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 6: Rubbish at football in general. I do have a really

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Speaker 2: Sadly for Jane and her teammates, the conditions off the

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Speaker 2: the toilets covered in blood and spit, and male members

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Speaker 2: stickers placed in the locker room were ripped down, and

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Speaker 2: Disrespectful straw, so they decided to leave the Tigers and

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Speaker 2: Jane says, they couldn't keep just putting up with it.

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Speaker 6: Friends or family coming to the games, and they came

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Speaker 6: Or they heard the chat outside the clubrooms from some

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Speaker 2: They applied to join the same competition, the Ridel District

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Speaker 6: We're just trying to make some noise and hopefully they

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Speaker 1: We are to foot it. It's so hot. We've been

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Speaker 6: Hello?

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Speaker 1: When your president asked you to step up, you do it.

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Speaker 6: Nat sort of said, I would be great if you know,

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Speaker 6: I think it's like by appointment only to get in.

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Speaker 1: I mean it'd be great if you like, would you

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Speaker 6: I was like, I mean, yeah, I'm not going to

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Speaker 6: We're fun, we're loving, and we like to have a joke.

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Speaker 2: Nearly nine and a half thousand people sign that petition

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Speaker 2: How will this sit in the community now, Nat, because

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Speaker 4: We get to play as our own club.

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows the name the Wedges now, which is good

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Speaker 3: You know, the win is for everyone, and also like

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Speaker 1: So now what happens now?

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