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Speaker 1: to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Speaker 1: Brodneck and I amm vernon Happy Friday.
Speaker 3: Friday Friday can get down unfair?
Speaker 1: Do you know we once talked about Rebecca Black, who
Speaker 1: sang that song Friday on this pod, and then she
Speaker 1: sent us a dem on Instagram being like, love you guys,
Speaker 1: Maybe we can hang out when I come to Astoria
Speaker 1: because she's going to tour. But then the world shut
Speaker 1: down with a pandemic, and.
Speaker 4: Now she's so famous.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't think she would dm us. Now, Rebecca,
Speaker 1: you're listening to go straight into a message request, I reckon,
Speaker 1: Oh missed opportunities anyway. Coming up on today's show, a
Speaker 1: very famous interviewer has named his biggest regret when talking
Speaker 1: to Omega celebrity, and it's kicked off this whole conversation
Speaker 1: between us about celebrity interviews questions that we have regretted asking.
Speaker 1: I'm going to regret even suggesting this as a topics.
Speaker 1: I'm about to make myself look so stupid and just
Speaker 1: awkward interviews in general, the ones that made the headlines.
Speaker 3: But first, but first, I have some breaking years. We
Speaker 3: have a new Barbenheimer coming up on the twenty second
Speaker 3: of November this year, both Gladiator two and Wicked will
Speaker 3: be released in theaters. So I'm calling it wikiata.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean it's not official, but I feel like if
Speaker 3: we started on our Beautiful Entertainment podcast, it will get
Speaker 3: picked up and people will run with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, one's got a couple names for these two movies
Speaker 1: coming on the same weekend now, Wikia.
Speaker 4: Wikiator, So I haven't got a better option.
Speaker 1: It's not quite Barbenheimer, but you know, Wikia, the more you.
Speaker 4: Say it, the more it grows.
Speaker 3: If you say it really fas it like no like emphasis,
Speaker 3: it's kind of lows. The main reason it's being likened
Speaker 3: to Barbie and Oppenheimer is not only because they're both
Speaker 3: coming out on the same day, but because they're both
Speaker 3: also set up and are gearing to be these massive
Speaker 3: blockbuster hits and in two extreme different categories. Similar to
Speaker 3: Barbie and Oppenheimer. There's been talks that these two movies
Speaker 3: might be as big, but I actually don't think it
Speaker 3: will because Barbie and Oppenheimer, I feel like we're just massive.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also feel like that was a very
Speaker 1: specific moment in time that I don't know how you'd
Speaker 1: replicate it. And what happened was there was a whole
Speaker 1: back and forth between the movie studios and there was
Speaker 1: a bit of revenge behind the scenes of moving Barbie
Speaker 1: on over to Oppenheimer, and it just worked out because
Speaker 1: of the whole hype around it. And what's interesting here
Speaker 1: is that Wicked has been moved. Wicked Part one, because
Speaker 1: it's been split into two parts, was initially moved so
Speaker 1: it wouldn't clash with Molana too.
Speaker 4: Like that's why they've moved it. I think a lot of.
Speaker 1: People think that's been moved the same weekend as Gladiated too,
Speaker 1: so that they can try and get people to have
Speaker 1: these big movie going weekends, especially because the box office
Speaker 1: has been very soft across most releases. There's been a
Speaker 1: lot of disappointments recently, so they're trying to get that
Speaker 1: hype of getting everyone to go together on the first weekend.
Speaker 1: But the real story is that they were worried about
Speaker 1: putting could Part one up against Mawana Part two. These
Speaker 1: movie names are so confusing because it's both a musical
Speaker 1: female lad and I guess.
Speaker 3: I think that the animated part two, Yeah, that's the
Speaker 3: real life adaptation.
Speaker 4: I'm in this stage. It's all like, it's just a blow,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: I guess they're saying that women can only take one
Speaker 1: movie with the female leads singing at one time over
Speaker 1: one weekend, so they have.
Speaker 3: Everyone's like too many women, many women, there's too many.
Speaker 1: How many women are going to go see Gladiator Too?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like women of the time for this movie.
Speaker 1: Gladiator Too is the first movie I've had a wait
Speaker 1: list of people wanting to be my plus one. Some
Speaker 1: people ask me a year out of this movie, They're like,
Speaker 1: I only want to come to that movie premiere with you.
Speaker 1: I don't come about anything else, And so I'm only
Speaker 1: getting one extra ticket. But I've had at least five
Speaker 1: people a year in advance put in a request.
Speaker 3: Well, surely that to me, because I'm literally on this podcast.
Speaker 4: I mean try not.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I don't think that anyone's
Speaker 1: thought about the fact that women who also make up
Speaker 1: the dominant force of buying power, but often get left
Speaker 1: out of these movie going discussions. Want to see Wicked
Speaker 1: and Gladiat and Mowana.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seeing all three, and I'm like, literally can't wait.
Speaker 3: I think also with Barbenheimer, it kind of felt like
Speaker 3: the movies are back, like cinema is back, and even
Speaker 3: though we did have cinema like before that, like there
Speaker 3: was like this big gap between COVID and that where
Speaker 3: it felt like we weren't really sure.
Speaker 4: Not that many people were going.
Speaker 3: I do remember seeing Don't Worry Darling just before that,
Speaker 3: but that's the only thing I actually watched in cinema.
Speaker 4: Everything else was streaming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And now at the moment where you've had
Speaker 1: all these huge releases and they haven't made.
Speaker 4: At the box office what people thought they were gonna make.
Speaker 1: But I think I think Wicked and Gladiator on the
Speaker 1: same weekend is I don't think it's gonna replicate the
Speaker 1: intensity of Barbenheimer, but I think it will get people
Speaker 1: going to see two movies in one weekend, which in
Speaker 1: this day and age is a huge feat. So anyway,
Speaker 1: make a day of it, Go see Wicked, see Gladiator
Speaker 1: the same, and.
Speaker 4: Then they all just merge into one big movie.
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Speaker 3: Nana Talkshow host Andy Cohen has made headlines after an
Speaker 3: interview he did with Entertainment Tonight. In this interview, he
Speaker 3: was kind of talking about his highs and lows of
Speaker 3: his overall career. He's been a talk show host for years.
Speaker 3: One regret he has talked about, which he has also
Speaker 3: brought up in the past before, is an interview he
Speaker 3: did with Oprah Winfrey in twenty thirteen when she came
Speaker 3: up on his show and he asked her if she's
Speaker 3: ever quote taken a dip in the lady pond, meaning
Speaker 3: has she ever had sex with a woman?
Speaker 4: Yes, I picked that up.
Speaker 3: Well, apparently she didn't know what it meant. So recently
Speaker 3: he found out through Gail, her best friend, that she
Speaker 3: actually didn't know what it meant. But when he did
Speaker 3: the interview, if you watched the video, which I don't
Speaker 3: recommend you do because it's really cringe and really awkward,
Speaker 3: and I got secondhand embarrassment, but I did it for.
Speaker 4: You, guys. I did for the show. When you watch
Speaker 4: the interview, she's.
Speaker 3: Kind of just like look straight at him and she's like, no,
Speaker 3: I have not, thank you, And then you can immediately
Speaker 3: see his face like, oh.
Speaker 4: I've made a grave error.
Speaker 1: Because the background of that, and this is what he
Speaker 1: goes on to say in this interview, is that that
Speaker 1: was a question that they were asking everyone who was
Speaker 1: on the show around that time. So if you're a
Speaker 1: big fan of Watch What Happens Live, or you're in
Speaker 1: the Briver universe, or you're a fan of Andy Cohen,
Speaker 1: then you would expect that question, but I'm just guessing
Speaker 1: that Oprah wasn't up to date without being a question
Speaker 1: that was asked. And she looks confused. And she's also
Speaker 1: someone who's been the public eye so long and there
Speaker 1: have been these weird allegations around her and Gaile there
Speaker 1: were more than friends for years, So I wonder if
Speaker 1: she thought that he was about to dredge up all
Speaker 1: of these tabloid rumors about her and get her to
Speaker 1: comment on that. And in his head, he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: just asking her a fun question that I asked all
Speaker 1: my guests. But it did look like he died inside.
Speaker 3: He looked like he died inside, and then I died inside.
Speaker 3: I know everyone who's watched that interview now has died inside.
Speaker 3: And the fact that he's talked about it multiple times,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's one of those situations where it keeps.
Speaker 4: Him up at like three am.
Speaker 1: Will suddenly enter his mind and he's like, well, he
Speaker 1: doesn't talk all about it all the time, can I say?
Speaker 1: Because we've had Andy Cohen on this very podcast, and
Speaker 1: I asked him that question because maybe I regret asking
Speaker 1: him the question about what he regrets, because he just
Speaker 1: looked at me as if like, that's the most boring
Speaker 1: question ever. But you know, when you spend your whole
Speaker 1: career intoing celebrities, that's what I get hit with all
Speaker 1: the time as well. And he would just want to
Speaker 1: know who's worse and who's bad and who's embarrassing. And
Speaker 1: so I asked him about that, and he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't really regret anything, no regrets, which is a
Speaker 1: lie liar saving it for a big girl outlet. That's
Speaker 1: all right, I respect. I do the same thing.
Speaker 3: When we become entertainment tonight, we can ask him the
Speaker 3: same question. What was really interesting when I was watching
Speaker 3: that interview was like it just like burned in my memory.
Speaker 3: Another interview that I remember watching that scarred me. Probably
Speaker 3: not as much as the report, but it definitely scarred me.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember this, but an entertainment
Speaker 3: report in the US Sam Rubin mistook Samuel L.
Speaker 4: Jackson with Laurence fish Pie.
Speaker 1: I'm so across this interview, but I cannot watch it
Speaker 1: because it is so odd. I've seen it, but it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where every time it pops up
Speaker 1: somewhere or like throw my phone out the window before
Speaker 1: I watched it again because it's so intense.
Speaker 4: It's so bad. But also that's really bad.
Speaker 1: That's not taking a swing with a different kind of
Speaker 1: question hoping the person goes with you. That's not knowing
Speaker 1: one actor from another actor when they're both hugely famous
Speaker 1: and had these decades worth of work behind them because
Speaker 1: they're both men of color.
Speaker 4: Like, that's completely Also just.
Speaker 3: Being an entertainment reporter for so long, And it wasn't
Speaker 3: just that he got his name mixed up, like he
Speaker 3: genuinely thought it was Laurence Fishburn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he asked Samuel L.
Speaker 3: Jackson a question about the super Bowl commercial that he
Speaker 3: was supposedly in, and Samuel Jackson's like, what super Bowl commercial?
Speaker 3: And then you see Samuel Jackson, who I freaking love.
Speaker 3: His face just lit up when he realized, and he
Speaker 3: was like, I am.
Speaker 4: Not Lauren Spismen. Not all of us look alike, and
Speaker 4: he just kept going in. He's like, I'm the other guy.
Speaker 4: I'm the other guy, as if like there's two of us.
Speaker 4: What you're working for, Marvel? The super Bowl commercial?
Speaker 1: Did you get a lot of reaction to that super
Speaker 1: Bowl commercial?
Speaker 4: What super Bowl commercial? Oh?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 4: My mistake.
Speaker 1: You know you're You're as crazy as the people on Twitter, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not lying's Prince Burg.
Speaker 3: That's my fault.
Speaker 4: I know that that was my fault, my mistake. You
Speaker 4: know what we do not all.
Speaker 1: Look alike, black and famous.
Speaker 4: You are guilty. I am, I am guilty, my God.
Speaker 1: And the thing is nothing haunts you like a bad interview.
Speaker 1: This is very specific to this job of doing these interviews,
Speaker 1: but when you're talking to someone, you're interviewing a celebrity,
Speaker 1: and it is for like a podcast or TV or
Speaker 1: radio or anything like that, it's such a public failure.
Speaker 1: It's not something you can hide. But also you kind
Speaker 1: escape it because when you have a really bad interview,
Speaker 1: you see that person's face every especially because they're usually
Speaker 1: doing promo at the time. So it's like I'll have
Speaker 1: a terrible day at work where I've asked a stupid
Speaker 1: question that I regret, or I asked it in a
Speaker 1: wrong way, or they got angry, and I just want
Speaker 1: to go home and forget about it. And as I
Speaker 1: walk home, because we're in like a main street of Sydney,
Speaker 1: it's got all those bus stops where you had the
Speaker 1: interchangeable digital billboards, and it's always the face of the.
Speaker 3: Bus, and they're always like on your like Netflix, like
Speaker 3: maybe you want to watch this, And I let my
Speaker 3: FBI agent living in my compute, I don't want to
Speaker 3: watch this.
Speaker 1: I'm literally gonna get run over one day walking home
Speaker 1: from work because I have to close my eyes so
Speaker 1: I don't see all the digital billboards blasting at me
Speaker 1: the face of the person I just had an awkward
Speaker 1: encounter with.
Speaker 3: I think also a big thing about that is the
Speaker 3: fan base that comes with the person. Like if you
Speaker 3: look at all of these interviews, especially the ones that
Speaker 3: are going viral right now, you talk about like Chicken
Speaker 3: Shop Date and like hot Ones, and the interviewer is
Speaker 3: as main of a character as the person they're interviewing.
Speaker 3: And I think when you're of that HIVES status, you
Speaker 3: have to be so careful because the minute you ask
Speaker 3: not even an awkward question, but a question that their
Speaker 3: celebrity or interviewing is uncomfortable with, immediately the comment will
Speaker 3: be like, that's such a shame on the interviewer for
Speaker 3: asking that question.
Speaker 4: How dare they?
Speaker 3: Like it's never like on the celebrity if they don't
Speaker 3: want to answer a question or they feel uncomfortable even
Speaker 3: if you're not sure how they're going to take it.
Speaker 3: And I think that's a huge risk that interviews constantly
Speaker 3: have to make.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a dangerous game out there, guys. It all
Speaker 1: looks glamorous from the outside. We'll coming up next. We're
Speaker 1: going to share some of our own interview regrets and look,
Speaker 1: I'm just about to make a fool of myself. Oh,
Speaker 1: a few interview regrets that we have had. I should
Speaker 1: say I was looking back through my portfolio trying to
Speaker 1: m because when you've been like doing this as long
Speaker 1: as I have, there gets to a point where you
Speaker 1: just like forget that you've interacted with these huge, famous
Speaker 1: people because it happens so often, and so there's a
Speaker 1: few are looking back and I'm like, that was a
Speaker 1: boud interview. But that wasn't my fault. That was about interview.
Speaker 1: I don't regret that guy was an idiot, and we
Speaker 1: all know it now. But there's a few I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I could go back in time, that's one of
Speaker 1: my biggest wishes. If I could have one superpower, I
Speaker 1: wish I could just like I have one reset a
Speaker 1: day where I could like hit a button and go
Speaker 1: back an hour and half of it is because I
Speaker 1: just want to go back.
Speaker 4: And redo an interview. I don't want to change the world.
Speaker 1: That's not my business. I don't want to like mess
Speaker 1: with like the flow of life or have consequences of
Speaker 1: time travel. I just want to go back and redo
Speaker 1: an interview. Question one that.
Speaker 4: Sticks in my head.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a few, but some of them not
Speaker 1: ready to talk about yet. They're too fresh.
Speaker 3: Soon we need a first discuss it without therapist, and
Speaker 3: then we'll give that.
Speaker 4: But I'll come back to you, guys. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: I end up telling spillers all of my dark secrets
Speaker 1: at some points. That's still coming. But Margo, Robbie and
Speaker 1: Greta Gerwig for Barbie. I had a bit of regret
Speaker 1: around how I started that interview because I put so
Speaker 1: much time and thought into it. They were doing so
Speaker 1: much press, so I was so aware they'd been asked
Speaker 1: every single question.
Speaker 3: And it's so hard to get cut through with those
Speaker 3: big interviews because everyone's interviewing them at the same day,
Speaker 3: same time that like articles will probably go out live.
Speaker 4: At the same time hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And also we didn't get to see the full movie beforehand.
Speaker 1: I'm flying blind here. But I had so much to
Speaker 1: ask them, and so I put so much thought and
Speaker 1: time into what my first question would be, and I
Speaker 1: decided to ask them about this story that was going
Speaker 1: on that someone from Mattel had like jumped on a
Speaker 1: flight to go across the world and arrive on set
Speaker 1: because they were worried about something was happening on the
Speaker 1: Barbie set. Obviously, that sounds more dramatic than it was,
Speaker 1: and I knew no one was trying to shut down
Speaker 1: the Barbie movie. And I didn't phrase it like that,
Speaker 1: but my idea was to say, like, do you think
Speaker 1: this is a bit of a precursor forult people are
Speaker 1: going to say about the Barbie Movie that they think
Speaker 1: everyone's expecting it to be this one thing and it's
Speaker 1: actually something else. And they were lovely, I've got to
Speaker 1: say that, so lovely and they knew how to give
Speaker 1: it into you and they were there to work on
Speaker 1: the day, and I love that from Greta and Margo,
Speaker 1: but also they just burst into laughter and they're like,
Speaker 1: way to make it sound way more dramatic than it was.
Speaker 1: And Greta was like, you're making it sound like someone
Speaker 1: call up them on the phone and was like we
Speaker 1: got to shut down this picture and stuff. And then
Speaker 1: it kind of just went off the rails and I
Speaker 1: kept trying to bring it back and say like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not what I meant. I meant like, do you
Speaker 1: think this movie is being seen in a different way?
Speaker 1: And it just kind of went off the rails, and
Speaker 1: obviously like it was just a Barbie mania after that,
Speaker 1: and every time I saw their faces somewhere we went
Speaker 1: and saw the movie or anything, I was just thinking
Speaker 1: about how I just tanked and how I'm sure that
Speaker 1: it think about me at all, But if they did,
Speaker 1: they'd be like that woman in Australia asked, it's a
Speaker 1: stupid question.
Speaker 4: Don't think they think that.
Speaker 3: I also want to point out that you're also on
Speaker 3: like a really strict time. Yeah, So it's so easy
Speaker 3: to get so frazzle in that situation where you're like,
Speaker 3: can you please stop laughing because I have so many
Speaker 3: more questions, and.
Speaker 1: You're like, I just obviously if we had heaps of time,
Speaker 1: I would really get into this.
Speaker 3: We've got to want to laugh too, but I actually
Speaker 3: can't because I don't want to get.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to ask the big question and
Speaker 1: there's no time to get into it. I remember the
Speaker 1: first time I interviewed Daisy Egre Jones, and it was
Speaker 1: right after normal people had come out, and so she was,
Speaker 1: you know, the talk of the town, the talk of
Speaker 1: the world. We're in lockdown, everyone's watching, everyone's obssessing over
Speaker 1: her and Paul I got one of the few interviews
Speaker 1: after that, and it was like my first zoom interview.
Speaker 1: I had just forgured out how to use in that
Speaker 1: day because the world had just shut down. She's calling
Speaker 1: me from a zoom in her little bedroom in her
Speaker 1: flat in London because she's not rich and famous yet,
Speaker 1: and she's crouched down trying to like not wake up
Speaker 1: her housemates. We have this huge conversation that our fringes
Speaker 1: are overgrown because we're in lockdown, and then I was like,
Speaker 1: this is so so lovely and so sweet, and she was.
Speaker 4: Like, it's so nice to talk to you.
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to anyone for days.
Speaker 4: Like it was so cute.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh my god, you just
Speaker 1: have to ask you about the sex scenes and the
Speaker 1: pubic hair wig that you wore in the TV show
Speaker 1: and there's no way to sugar coat it.
Speaker 4: I just got to get in there, and it's not
Speaker 4: exactly I regret.
Speaker 1: Like this is one of those things when it kind
Speaker 1: of goes off well, like talking about friends and like
Speaker 1: speaking about Uncontrollable, because I was like, but it was
Speaker 1: such a groundbreaking part of the TV show because she
Speaker 1: looked kind of shocked that I asked her about it,
Speaker 1: and then when I explained a bit more about how
Speaker 1: important I thought it was and I wanted a job
Speaker 1: about mechanics, and she went through all the mechanics of
Speaker 1: putting on the fake Pugby hair and why it was important,
Speaker 1: and then afterwards she felt like, I just feel like
Speaker 1: I was asking her a school assignment, because.
Speaker 4: She was like, was that okay, I answer your question?
Speaker 4: Did I get it right? And I was like, no, no, Daisy,
Speaker 4: you did a great job. Oh my god, love you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I regret, in a more serious note, sometimes holding
Speaker 1: especially female actresses accountable for some of the dramatic headlines
Speaker 1: that are around their shows. And it's such a fine
Speaker 1: line because if some huge story is playing out around
Speaker 1: one of their co stars or something with the movie,
Speaker 1: it's like you feel a responsibility as a journalist that
Speaker 1: that is the question you have to ask them. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, sometimes you're really putting them on
Speaker 1: a spot and kind of ruining they into you and
Speaker 1: ruining the work that they've done by making them be
Speaker 1: accountable for something they have no responsibility for. And one
Speaker 1: that I have a huge amount of regret and I
Speaker 1: wish I could just send her a little note and
Speaker 1: be like sorry about that. Is no one would probably
Speaker 1: know this actress, but I'm sure a lot of people
Speaker 1: would kind of know this show. It's The Royals if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, it's such a good just like
Speaker 1: a binge watch. It's like Liz Hurley's The Star. It's
Speaker 1: just off the rails. I remember this reimagine the Royal
Speaker 1: Family had a real point in time and Alexandra Park
Speaker 1: played Princess Eleanor and that she was a star. She
Speaker 1: came to Australia to promote one of the latest seasons
Speaker 1: just as it was really taking off in Australia because
Speaker 1: it had come to stand everyone was watching it, and
Speaker 1: at the same time the show was all this drama
Speaker 1: around it because Mark Schwan, who had been the creator
Speaker 1: of One Tree Hill, all these allegations against him for
Speaker 1: like abuse and sexual soul and everything had come out
Speaker 1: and he was fired from The Royals, which was his show,
Speaker 1: and then the cast of the Royals had also put
Speaker 1: out a public letter saying that he had been like
Speaker 1: terrible and saiding all these allegations, and Alexander's team was like,
Speaker 1: don't ask her about it, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to, because how can I not? And then
Speaker 1: I started asking her in the interview and she was
Speaker 1: like lovely about it. But I could also be like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 1: this woman has just been through a really traumatic situation.
Speaker 4: She has to do press for this show.
Speaker 1: And this is nothing to do with her, Like she
Speaker 1: wasn't actually involved in any of the allegations or anything
Speaker 1: like that. And so I do have a lot of
Speaker 1: regret that I was like I went into an interview
Speaker 1: being like I'm going to ask her and I'm going
Speaker 1: to get her to talk and I'm going to hold
Speaker 1: her to account. Afterwards, I was like, that wasn't the
Speaker 1: way to do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would regret that. Thanks for that support.
Speaker 3: I was sure she's fine though it is, and also
Speaker 3: like sometimes these are important questions, like the struggle I
Speaker 3: think when you're a journalist, is wanting to like make
Speaker 3: the person you're interviewing comfortable, but also knowing you're can
Speaker 3: doing for a whole audience and these stories as well.
Speaker 1: And yeah, exactly exactly. It's such an easy get sometimes
Speaker 1: when there's backlash. And that's why so many actresses don't
Speaker 1: comment on anything, because as soon as they comment on
Speaker 1: any sort of backlash and then you can say to them, well,
Speaker 1: you recently put out a statement and that's your in.
Speaker 1: And once they've said that, it's public fodder. So I
Speaker 1: understand why they don't. But yeah, look a couple of
Speaker 1: regrets in there. Do you have any you are you
Speaker 1: regret in life?
Speaker 3: I have one regret, nothing that I did personally. I
Speaker 3: want to say, I regret the whole interview happening.
Speaker 4: Okay, well that's the bar. I've got plenty of those.
Speaker 3: Basically, I was interviewing a very famous Australian comedian.
Speaker 4: Yes, well I will not name, but.
Speaker 1: I love how I just named all of mine in
Speaker 1: Burns and Bridges. You're gonna blame.
Speaker 3: Her, Yeah, I'm blaming mine, not myself. Okay, So she
Speaker 3: came in hungover, which you know what I've.
Speaker 1: Will be in there, so you can't make that the
Speaker 1: interviewer's problem.
Speaker 3: No, I'm like, and I'm a party girl. I respect
Speaker 3: the party. I always respect the party, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: So I was like kind of vibing with her. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, vibe say I'm also hungover.
Speaker 4: I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I was like trying to relate. I was interviewing her
Speaker 3: about some recent work she did, and I was asking
Speaker 3: her questions and she couldn't remember.
Speaker 4: What she actually did.
Speaker 3: It was actually insane, and the thing I was doing
Speaker 3: it was like a long time ago, like a few
Speaker 3: years ago, but at mum and me at the time,
Speaker 3: I was big into the dating space, like I was
Speaker 3: a dating and relationships writer. That was my main forte.
Speaker 3: And part of the whole interviews I was doing was
Speaker 3: like they had to give me a dating story, like
Speaker 3: a terrible dating story. And we had given her publicist
Speaker 3: and herself like, be prepared, I'm going to ask you
Speaker 3: the story, and they were like, yep, got it, you'll
Speaker 3: have a story ready. She didn't have one ready. And
Speaker 3: it was one of those situations where just for good content,
Speaker 3: I had to give my own story for her to
Speaker 3: react to. Like a story that I was saving for
Speaker 3: like my like my own like thing, and I had
Speaker 3: to use it for this interview just to like make
Speaker 3: it like some sort of content.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I guess in
Speaker 1: some cases we are all Andy Cohen and asking someone
Speaker 1: if they've taken assuming the lady Pond, and I.
Speaker 4: Guess there's just there's no way out of here. She's
Speaker 4: got to push through it.
Speaker 3: The weekend watch It's weekend watch time, and today I
Speaker 3: am recommending a Stan Original documentary. It's called Trailblazers, Brace Yourselves.
Speaker 3: It's a sports doco, which I know I'm a big
Speaker 3: fan of and I always go on about my sports documentaries,
Speaker 3: but this one is really good. It is about the
Speaker 3: history of the Australian women's football team, the Matilda's. They're
Speaker 3: having a big moment right now. I know, like everyone
Speaker 3: went to the games when they were here for the
Speaker 3: women's fee for World Cup, and I think now is
Speaker 3: the best time to watch this documentary as we're leading
Speaker 3: up to the Olympics, because I'm representing us in that
Speaker 3: as well. The history of women's football is so insane,
Speaker 3: Like there was a point where they were starting to
Speaker 3: get really really big, especially when the men had to
Speaker 3: go overseas for war, Like they were the entertainment. They
Speaker 3: were the ones who were like doing sport and having
Speaker 3: these big games and having these like sold out stadiums.
Speaker 3: And then when the men came back, there was kind
Speaker 3: of like this big clash over women's and men's footb all,
Speaker 3: especially in England. And in England they actually made it
Speaker 3: illegal for women to play on men's pitches and I.
Speaker 4: Was like, freaking hell, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: And because England was kind of like the top country
Speaker 3: for football, that legal rule kind of started filtering out
Speaker 3: to other countries where it became really uncouth for women
Speaker 3: to play football. And the women who were ex Matilda's
Speaker 3: players are just amazing. So many of them had to
Speaker 3: pay to play, so many of them lost jobs just
Speaker 3: because they were traveling for games. They had to like
Speaker 3: stitch their own uniforms, they got hand me down from
Speaker 3: the men. It was just like the amount they went
Speaker 3: through just to play the game was absolutely outstanding.
Speaker 4: These are the women who changed football at the moment
Speaker 4: remembered forever witnessed the incredible wise there was no infrastructure,
Speaker 4: was really daunting. Just to fight to earn respect of
Speaker 4: Australia's national teams.
Speaker 1: It gives me goosebum was thinking about.
Speaker 4: Discover the legacy.
Speaker 3: Striking was the last option and Unbreakaby.
Speaker 4: Spirits had come so far that defines them. This is
Speaker 4: our story.
Speaker 3: So it's such a like wholesome, really good, feel good
Speaker 3: watch understand.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm also recommending a stand show today because I
Speaker 1: have been waiting for this one to drop some and
Speaker 1: so much. The screen is a little while ago and
Speaker 1: it's finally here. It's called A Good Girl's Guide to Murder.
Speaker 1: I love that title, isn't it. I want that to
Speaker 1: be like on my Grasston. Well, I'm sure we can
Speaker 1: organize that. That's a separate conversation. So this new series
Speaker 1: is based on the best selling novel of the same
Speaker 1: name by Holly Jackson. So when that book came out,
Speaker 1: and it's the first in the series.
Speaker 4: Reading that book rode on her bookshelf.
Speaker 1: When it came out, it was like shortlisted for all
Speaker 1: these different awards and critics loved it and readers loved it,
Speaker 1: and so it's finally been turned into a series. There's
Speaker 1: six episodes and the star of the show is Emma Myers,
Speaker 1: who a lot of people would know as Enid from
Speaker 1: Wednesday because it's like she's the real breakout star for that,
Speaker 1: and she's filming Wednesday, the second season of that. At
Speaker 1: the moment, I think, really, yes, she's amazing in Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and she's amazing in A.
Speaker 4: Good Girl's Guide to Murder.
Speaker 1: So she plays the leader Pip, who's a high school girl,
Speaker 1: and basically she becomes very kind of fascinated with this
Speaker 1: murder that took place five years for the events of
Speaker 1: the show for this girl called Andy Bell, and the
Speaker 1: police and everyone in the town, school and stuff all
Speaker 1: think they know exactly what happened to Andy, that her
Speaker 1: boyfriend murdered her case clothes the police or like he
Speaker 1: definitely did it. Everyone knows. But then Pip, who's kind
Speaker 1: of like very smart, very determined, very kind of across
Speaker 1: what's happening, gets some information and she's like, I don't
Speaker 1: think he did kill her five years ago. I think
Speaker 1: something here has happened. And if he's not the murderer
Speaker 1: of this big case in town of this young woman,
Speaker 1: then who.
Speaker 4: Is Nancy Drew.
Speaker 1: It is a bit like I think maybe like Nancy
Speaker 1: Drew pretty little liars, but a bit more elevated than that.
Speaker 1: But like if you love that sort of like Veronica
Speaker 1: Mars greater show of all. You know, if you like
Speaker 1: that kind of like young spunky woman who's smarter than
Speaker 1: everyone around her soulves a murder, then you're like this.
Speaker 1: So then she starts delving into this murder of what
Speaker 1: really happened to kind of uncover the truth.
Speaker 4: My name's Pip Fitzmoby.
Speaker 1: For the last few months, I've been investigating the Andy
Speaker 1: Bell case.
Speaker 4: Oh and just so you know, they got the wrong person.
Speaker 4: Bribe like you that's are scared to do. Please believe
Speaker 4: that your brother was innocent.
Speaker 1: So if you didn't, who did?
Speaker 4: I guess that's what we need to find out. There
Speaker 4: are a million of scrappencies about that night. Any one
Speaker 4: of them could have killed Andy. What are you girls
Speaker 4: talking about?
Speaker 2: Ten?
Speaker 1: So it's six episodes. It's really engaging. If you love
Speaker 1: the book, then you love seeing it on the screen.
Speaker 1: And if you haven't read the book, then don't google
Speaker 1: anything about it. Just sit down and watch it because
Speaker 1: you'll be really interested of how the story unfolds. So
Speaker 1: that's a Good Girl's Guide to Murder and it's out
Speaker 1: on stand now. Well, thank you so much for listening
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