1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:26,504 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,504 --> 00:00:29,224 Speaker 1: to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 6 00:00:29,224 --> 00:00:31,664 Speaker 1: Brodneck and I amm vernon Happy Friday. 7 00:00:32,064 --> 00:00:35,584 Speaker 3: Friday Friday can get down unfair? 8 00:00:35,824 --> 00:00:37,824 Speaker 1: Do you know we once talked about Rebecca Black, who 9 00:00:37,864 --> 00:00:40,064 Speaker 1: sang that song Friday on this pod, and then she 10 00:00:40,144 --> 00:00:42,584 Speaker 1: sent us a dem on Instagram being like, love you guys, 11 00:00:42,904 --> 00:00:44,624 Speaker 1: Maybe we can hang out when I come to Astoria 12 00:00:44,664 --> 00:00:46,664 Speaker 1: because she's going to tour. But then the world shut 13 00:00:46,664 --> 00:00:47,704 Speaker 1: down with a pandemic, and. 14 00:00:47,864 --> 00:00:49,064 Speaker 4: Now she's so famous. 15 00:00:49,104 --> 00:00:51,304 Speaker 1: I know, I don't think she would dm us. Now, Rebecca, 16 00:00:51,544 --> 00:00:53,904 Speaker 1: you're listening to go straight into a message request, I reckon, 17 00:00:54,384 --> 00:00:58,064 Speaker 1: Oh missed opportunities anyway. Coming up on today's show, a 18 00:00:58,264 --> 00:01:02,624 Speaker 1: very famous interviewer has named his biggest regret when talking 19 00:01:02,624 --> 00:01:05,704 Speaker 1: to Omega celebrity, and it's kicked off this whole conversation 20 00:01:05,824 --> 00:01:10,304 Speaker 1: between us about celebrity interviews questions that we have regretted asking. 21 00:01:10,424 --> 00:01:12,384 Speaker 1: I'm going to regret even suggesting this as a topics. 22 00:01:12,384 --> 00:01:14,744 Speaker 1: I'm about to make myself look so stupid and just 23 00:01:14,824 --> 00:01:17,464 Speaker 1: awkward interviews in general, the ones that made the headlines. 24 00:01:17,864 --> 00:01:21,184 Speaker 3: But first, but first, I have some breaking years. We 25 00:01:21,504 --> 00:01:25,544 Speaker 3: have a new Barbenheimer coming up on the twenty second 26 00:01:25,544 --> 00:01:29,944 Speaker 3: of November this year, both Gladiator two and Wicked will 27 00:01:29,984 --> 00:01:34,184 Speaker 3: be released in theaters. So I'm calling it wikiata. 28 00:01:35,744 --> 00:01:35,984 Speaker 4: Yeah. 29 00:01:36,024 --> 00:01:38,104 Speaker 3: I mean it's not official, but I feel like if 30 00:01:38,144 --> 00:01:41,184 Speaker 3: we started on our Beautiful Entertainment podcast, it will get 31 00:01:41,184 --> 00:01:42,384 Speaker 3: picked up and people will run with you. 32 00:01:42,504 --> 00:01:42,664 Speaker 4: Yeah. 33 00:01:42,704 --> 00:01:44,704 Speaker 1: No, one's got a couple names for these two movies 34 00:01:44,744 --> 00:01:46,784 Speaker 1: coming on the same weekend now, Wikia. 35 00:01:46,704 --> 00:01:49,504 Speaker 4: Wikiator, So I haven't got a better option. 36 00:01:49,544 --> 00:01:52,424 Speaker 1: It's not quite Barbenheimer, but you know, Wikia, the more you. 37 00:01:52,384 --> 00:01:53,304 Speaker 4: Say it, the more it grows. 38 00:01:53,824 --> 00:01:56,584 Speaker 3: If you say it really fas it like no like emphasis, 39 00:01:56,584 --> 00:01:59,464 Speaker 3: it's kind of lows. The main reason it's being likened 40 00:01:59,464 --> 00:02:02,624 Speaker 3: to Barbie and Oppenheimer is not only because they're both 41 00:02:02,664 --> 00:02:04,784 Speaker 3: coming out on the same day, but because they're both 42 00:02:04,824 --> 00:02:07,584 Speaker 3: also set up and are gearing to be these massive 43 00:02:07,664 --> 00:02:12,144 Speaker 3: blockbuster hits and in two extreme different categories. Similar to 44 00:02:12,264 --> 00:02:15,504 Speaker 3: Barbie and Oppenheimer. There's been talks that these two movies 45 00:02:15,824 --> 00:02:18,544 Speaker 3: might be as big, but I actually don't think it 46 00:02:18,584 --> 00:02:21,744 Speaker 3: will because Barbie and Oppenheimer, I feel like we're just massive. 47 00:02:21,984 --> 00:02:23,464 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also feel like that was a very 48 00:02:23,504 --> 00:02:25,704 Speaker 1: specific moment in time that I don't know how you'd 49 00:02:25,744 --> 00:02:28,384 Speaker 1: replicate it. And what happened was there was a whole 50 00:02:28,384 --> 00:02:31,224 Speaker 1: back and forth between the movie studios and there was 51 00:02:31,264 --> 00:02:34,224 Speaker 1: a bit of revenge behind the scenes of moving Barbie 52 00:02:34,264 --> 00:02:37,864 Speaker 1: on over to Oppenheimer, and it just worked out because 53 00:02:37,864 --> 00:02:40,464 Speaker 1: of the whole hype around it. And what's interesting here 54 00:02:40,544 --> 00:02:42,864 Speaker 1: is that Wicked has been moved. Wicked Part one, because 55 00:02:42,864 --> 00:02:46,104 Speaker 1: it's been split into two parts, was initially moved so 56 00:02:46,424 --> 00:02:48,704 Speaker 1: it wouldn't clash with Molana too. 57 00:02:48,784 --> 00:02:50,624 Speaker 4: Like that's why they've moved it. I think a lot of. 58 00:02:50,624 --> 00:02:53,624 Speaker 1: People think that's been moved the same weekend as Gladiated too, 59 00:02:54,104 --> 00:02:56,064 Speaker 1: so that they can try and get people to have 60 00:02:56,184 --> 00:02:59,584 Speaker 1: these big movie going weekends, especially because the box office 61 00:02:59,584 --> 00:03:02,624 Speaker 1: has been very soft across most releases. There's been a 62 00:03:02,664 --> 00:03:05,144 Speaker 1: lot of disappointments recently, so they're trying to get that 63 00:03:05,264 --> 00:03:07,744 Speaker 1: hype of getting everyone to go together on the first weekend. 64 00:03:07,944 --> 00:03:09,984 Speaker 1: But the real story is that they were worried about 65 00:03:09,984 --> 00:03:14,104 Speaker 1: putting could Part one up against Mawana Part two. These 66 00:03:14,104 --> 00:03:17,264 Speaker 1: movie names are so confusing because it's both a musical 67 00:03:17,344 --> 00:03:18,544 Speaker 1: female lad and I guess. 68 00:03:18,344 --> 00:03:21,104 Speaker 3: I think that the animated part two, Yeah, that's the 69 00:03:21,144 --> 00:03:22,264 Speaker 3: real life adaptation. 70 00:03:22,424 --> 00:03:24,504 Speaker 4: I'm in this stage. It's all like, it's just a blow, 71 00:03:24,984 --> 00:03:25,144 Speaker 4: you know. 72 00:03:25,224 --> 00:03:27,304 Speaker 1: I guess they're saying that women can only take one 73 00:03:27,384 --> 00:03:30,184 Speaker 1: movie with the female leads singing at one time over 74 00:03:30,264 --> 00:03:31,264 Speaker 1: one weekend, so they have. 75 00:03:31,264 --> 00:03:34,544 Speaker 3: Everyone's like too many women, many women, there's too many. 76 00:03:34,544 --> 00:03:36,624 Speaker 1: How many women are going to go see Gladiator Too? 77 00:03:36,664 --> 00:03:39,864 Speaker 1: Because I feel like women of the time for this movie. 78 00:03:40,064 --> 00:03:42,544 Speaker 1: Gladiator Too is the first movie I've had a wait 79 00:03:42,584 --> 00:03:44,464 Speaker 1: list of people wanting to be my plus one. Some 80 00:03:44,504 --> 00:03:46,824 Speaker 1: people ask me a year out of this movie, They're like, 81 00:03:46,904 --> 00:03:48,744 Speaker 1: I only want to come to that movie premiere with you. 82 00:03:48,744 --> 00:03:50,784 Speaker 1: I don't come about anything else, And so I'm only 83 00:03:50,784 --> 00:03:52,784 Speaker 1: getting one extra ticket. But I've had at least five 84 00:03:52,864 --> 00:03:55,224 Speaker 1: people a year in advance put in a request. 85 00:03:55,304 --> 00:03:58,264 Speaker 3: Well, surely that to me, because I'm literally on this podcast. 86 00:03:57,824 --> 00:03:59,264 Speaker 4: I mean try not. 87 00:03:59,544 --> 00:04:01,584 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I don't think that anyone's 88 00:04:01,584 --> 00:04:03,904 Speaker 1: thought about the fact that women who also make up 89 00:04:03,904 --> 00:04:06,184 Speaker 1: the dominant force of buying power, but often get left 90 00:04:06,184 --> 00:04:09,464 Speaker 1: out of these movie going discussions. Want to see Wicked 91 00:04:09,704 --> 00:04:11,584 Speaker 1: and Gladiat and Mowana. 92 00:04:11,984 --> 00:04:14,904 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seeing all three, and I'm like, literally can't wait. 93 00:04:14,984 --> 00:04:17,344 Speaker 3: I think also with Barbenheimer, it kind of felt like 94 00:04:17,704 --> 00:04:20,784 Speaker 3: the movies are back, like cinema is back, and even 95 00:04:20,784 --> 00:04:24,664 Speaker 3: though we did have cinema like before that, like there 96 00:04:24,704 --> 00:04:26,984 Speaker 3: was like this big gap between COVID and that where 97 00:04:26,984 --> 00:04:28,704 Speaker 3: it felt like we weren't really sure. 98 00:04:28,504 --> 00:04:29,624 Speaker 4: Not that many people were going. 99 00:04:29,824 --> 00:04:32,344 Speaker 3: I do remember seeing Don't Worry Darling just before that, 100 00:04:32,424 --> 00:04:34,184 Speaker 3: but that's the only thing I actually watched in cinema. 101 00:04:34,184 --> 00:04:35,144 Speaker 4: Everything else was streaming. 102 00:04:35,224 --> 00:04:37,064 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And now at the moment where you've had 103 00:04:37,104 --> 00:04:39,264 Speaker 1: all these huge releases and they haven't made. 104 00:04:39,104 --> 00:04:41,424 Speaker 4: At the box office what people thought they were gonna make. 105 00:04:41,584 --> 00:04:43,944 Speaker 1: But I think I think Wicked and Gladiator on the 106 00:04:44,024 --> 00:04:47,064 Speaker 1: same weekend is I don't think it's gonna replicate the 107 00:04:47,104 --> 00:04:50,504 Speaker 1: intensity of Barbenheimer, but I think it will get people 108 00:04:50,544 --> 00:04:52,944 Speaker 1: going to see two movies in one weekend, which in 109 00:04:52,984 --> 00:04:55,504 Speaker 1: this day and age is a huge feat. So anyway, 110 00:04:55,544 --> 00:04:57,944 Speaker 1: make a day of it, Go see Wicked, see Gladiator 111 00:04:58,064 --> 00:04:59,184 Speaker 1: the same, and. 112 00:04:59,184 --> 00:05:01,584 Speaker 4: Then they all just merge into one big movie. 113 00:05:01,504 --> 00:05:04,544 Speaker 2: A fever dream that would be Hello, it's the Spill 114 00:05:04,624 --> 00:05:07,224 Speaker 2: producer Kim Here. You don't usually hear my voice, but 115 00:05:07,264 --> 00:05:09,904 Speaker 2: I have something very important to share with you. If 116 00:05:09,944 --> 00:05:12,864 Speaker 2: you're seeing and looking for someone special. Mama Mia and 117 00:05:12,904 --> 00:05:15,624 Speaker 2: the Sydney Swans are hosting a singles event next week 118 00:05:15,664 --> 00:05:18,064 Speaker 2: at the Swans Versus North Melbourne Clash. You get to 119 00:05:18,064 --> 00:05:21,384 Speaker 2: watch the game, have a drink, have cannapeze. It's on 120 00:05:21,504 --> 00:05:25,424 Speaker 2: July thirteen at the SEG. There are only limited tickets left. 121 00:05:25,464 --> 00:05:27,824 Speaker 2: I'm not just saying that there actually aren't that many left. 122 00:05:28,144 --> 00:05:30,264 Speaker 2: If you aren't single, maybe you know a single guy. 123 00:05:30,504 --> 00:05:33,024 Speaker 2: He will absolutely love it. There will be plenty of 124 00:05:33,064 --> 00:05:35,384 Speaker 2: lovely ladies to talk to. Head to the link in 125 00:05:35,424 --> 00:05:37,664 Speaker 2: our show description to get your tickets to the Natch 126 00:05:37,744 --> 00:05:38,224 Speaker 2: Day Mingle. 127 00:05:38,704 --> 00:05:44,024 Speaker 3: Nana Talkshow host Andy Cohen has made headlines after an 128 00:05:44,064 --> 00:05:47,464 Speaker 3: interview he did with Entertainment Tonight. In this interview, he 129 00:05:47,504 --> 00:05:49,584 Speaker 3: was kind of talking about his highs and lows of 130 00:05:49,624 --> 00:05:52,304 Speaker 3: his overall career. He's been a talk show host for years. 131 00:05:52,664 --> 00:05:55,464 Speaker 3: One regret he has talked about, which he has also 132 00:05:55,464 --> 00:05:57,944 Speaker 3: brought up in the past before, is an interview he 133 00:05:57,984 --> 00:06:01,184 Speaker 3: did with Oprah Winfrey in twenty thirteen when she came 134 00:06:01,304 --> 00:06:04,024 Speaker 3: up on his show and he asked her if she's 135 00:06:04,104 --> 00:06:08,864 Speaker 3: ever quote taken a dip in the lady pond, meaning 136 00:06:08,944 --> 00:06:10,184 Speaker 3: has she ever had sex with a woman? 137 00:06:10,424 --> 00:06:11,144 Speaker 4: Yes, I picked that up. 138 00:06:12,224 --> 00:06:15,104 Speaker 3: Well, apparently she didn't know what it meant. So recently 139 00:06:15,264 --> 00:06:17,064 Speaker 3: he found out through Gail, her best friend, that she 140 00:06:17,064 --> 00:06:19,184 Speaker 3: actually didn't know what it meant. But when he did 141 00:06:19,184 --> 00:06:20,784 Speaker 3: the interview, if you watched the video, which I don't 142 00:06:20,784 --> 00:06:22,944 Speaker 3: recommend you do because it's really cringe and really awkward, 143 00:06:22,944 --> 00:06:24,904 Speaker 3: and I got secondhand embarrassment, but I did it for. 144 00:06:24,864 --> 00:06:26,784 Speaker 4: You, guys. I did for the show. When you watch 145 00:06:26,824 --> 00:06:27,904 Speaker 4: the interview, she's. 146 00:06:27,784 --> 00:06:30,824 Speaker 3: Kind of just like look straight at him and she's like, no, 147 00:06:30,904 --> 00:06:33,304 Speaker 3: I have not, thank you, And then you can immediately 148 00:06:33,304 --> 00:06:34,984 Speaker 3: see his face like, oh. 149 00:06:35,224 --> 00:06:36,424 Speaker 4: I've made a grave error. 150 00:06:36,664 --> 00:06:38,344 Speaker 1: Because the background of that, and this is what he 151 00:06:38,384 --> 00:06:40,144 Speaker 1: goes on to say in this interview, is that that 152 00:06:40,224 --> 00:06:42,304 Speaker 1: was a question that they were asking everyone who was 153 00:06:42,344 --> 00:06:44,464 Speaker 1: on the show around that time. So if you're a 154 00:06:44,464 --> 00:06:46,384 Speaker 1: big fan of Watch What Happens Live, or you're in 155 00:06:46,424 --> 00:06:48,584 Speaker 1: the Briver universe, or you're a fan of Andy Cohen, 156 00:06:48,744 --> 00:06:51,184 Speaker 1: then you would expect that question, but I'm just guessing 157 00:06:51,184 --> 00:06:53,744 Speaker 1: that Oprah wasn't up to date without being a question 158 00:06:53,824 --> 00:06:56,464 Speaker 1: that was asked. And she looks confused. And she's also 159 00:06:56,504 --> 00:06:59,184 Speaker 1: someone who's been the public eye so long and there 160 00:06:59,184 --> 00:07:01,584 Speaker 1: have been these weird allegations around her and Gaile there 161 00:07:01,584 --> 00:07:03,424 Speaker 1: were more than friends for years, So I wonder if 162 00:07:03,424 --> 00:07:05,144 Speaker 1: she thought that he was about to dredge up all 163 00:07:05,144 --> 00:07:07,944 Speaker 1: of these tabloid rumors about her and get her to 164 00:07:07,944 --> 00:07:09,984 Speaker 1: comment on that. And in his head, he's like, I'm 165 00:07:10,024 --> 00:07:11,824 Speaker 1: just asking her a fun question that I asked all 166 00:07:11,824 --> 00:07:14,064 Speaker 1: my guests. But it did look like he died inside. 167 00:07:14,104 --> 00:07:17,224 Speaker 3: He looked like he died inside, and then I died inside. 168 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:19,704 Speaker 3: I know everyone who's watched that interview now has died inside. 169 00:07:19,744 --> 00:07:22,064 Speaker 3: And the fact that he's talked about it multiple times, 170 00:07:22,304 --> 00:07:25,304 Speaker 3: I feel like it's one of those situations where it keeps. 171 00:07:25,104 --> 00:07:26,304 Speaker 4: Him up at like three am. 172 00:07:26,344 --> 00:07:28,464 Speaker 1: Will suddenly enter his mind and he's like, well, he 173 00:07:28,504 --> 00:07:30,184 Speaker 1: doesn't talk all about it all the time, can I say? 174 00:07:30,184 --> 00:07:32,304 Speaker 1: Because we've had Andy Cohen on this very podcast, and 175 00:07:32,304 --> 00:07:34,864 Speaker 1: I asked him that question because maybe I regret asking 176 00:07:34,904 --> 00:07:36,624 Speaker 1: him the question about what he regrets, because he just 177 00:07:36,624 --> 00:07:38,024 Speaker 1: looked at me as if like, that's the most boring 178 00:07:38,104 --> 00:07:40,224 Speaker 1: question ever. But you know, when you spend your whole 179 00:07:40,224 --> 00:07:42,664 Speaker 1: career intoing celebrities, that's what I get hit with all 180 00:07:42,704 --> 00:07:44,024 Speaker 1: the time as well. And he would just want to 181 00:07:44,064 --> 00:07:46,544 Speaker 1: know who's worse and who's bad and who's embarrassing. And 182 00:07:46,624 --> 00:07:48,504 Speaker 1: so I asked him about that, and he was like, 183 00:07:48,544 --> 00:07:51,144 Speaker 1: I don't really regret anything, no regrets, which is a 184 00:07:51,224 --> 00:07:54,864 Speaker 1: lie liar saving it for a big girl outlet. That's 185 00:07:54,904 --> 00:07:56,624 Speaker 1: all right, I respect. I do the same thing. 186 00:07:56,824 --> 00:07:59,624 Speaker 3: When we become entertainment tonight, we can ask him the 187 00:07:59,664 --> 00:08:02,624 Speaker 3: same question. What was really interesting when I was watching 188 00:08:02,664 --> 00:08:05,664 Speaker 3: that interview was like it just like burned in my memory. 189 00:08:05,784 --> 00:08:09,344 Speaker 3: Another interview that I remember watching that scarred me. Probably 190 00:08:09,344 --> 00:08:12,064 Speaker 3: not as much as the report, but it definitely scarred me. 191 00:08:12,144 --> 00:08:14,704 Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember this, but an entertainment 192 00:08:14,704 --> 00:08:17,864 Speaker 3: report in the US Sam Rubin mistook Samuel L. 193 00:08:17,944 --> 00:08:19,704 Speaker 4: Jackson with Laurence fish Pie. 194 00:08:19,984 --> 00:08:23,224 Speaker 1: I'm so across this interview, but I cannot watch it 195 00:08:23,264 --> 00:08:26,184 Speaker 1: because it is so odd. I've seen it, but it's 196 00:08:26,184 --> 00:08:27,504 Speaker 1: one of those things where every time it pops up 197 00:08:27,544 --> 00:08:29,504 Speaker 1: somewhere or like throw my phone out the window before 198 00:08:29,504 --> 00:08:31,424 Speaker 1: I watched it again because it's so intense. 199 00:08:31,104 --> 00:08:33,744 Speaker 4: It's so bad. But also that's really bad. 200 00:08:33,864 --> 00:08:36,624 Speaker 1: That's not taking a swing with a different kind of 201 00:08:36,704 --> 00:08:40,264 Speaker 1: question hoping the person goes with you. That's not knowing 202 00:08:40,384 --> 00:08:43,784 Speaker 1: one actor from another actor when they're both hugely famous 203 00:08:43,824 --> 00:08:46,464 Speaker 1: and had these decades worth of work behind them because 204 00:08:46,464 --> 00:08:47,464 Speaker 1: they're both men of color. 205 00:08:47,544 --> 00:08:49,584 Speaker 4: Like, that's completely Also just. 206 00:08:49,584 --> 00:08:53,344 Speaker 3: Being an entertainment reporter for so long, And it wasn't 207 00:08:53,424 --> 00:08:55,304 Speaker 3: just that he got his name mixed up, like he 208 00:08:55,424 --> 00:08:57,544 Speaker 3: genuinely thought it was Laurence Fishburn. 209 00:08:57,704 --> 00:08:58,864 Speaker 4: Yeah, he asked Samuel L. 210 00:08:58,944 --> 00:09:01,624 Speaker 3: Jackson a question about the super Bowl commercial that he 211 00:09:01,664 --> 00:09:05,304 Speaker 3: was supposedly in, and Samuel Jackson's like, what super Bowl commercial? 212 00:09:05,464 --> 00:09:07,984 Speaker 3: And then you see Samuel Jackson, who I freaking love. 213 00:09:08,344 --> 00:09:10,624 Speaker 3: His face just lit up when he realized, and he 214 00:09:10,744 --> 00:09:11,944 Speaker 3: was like, I am. 215 00:09:11,944 --> 00:09:15,064 Speaker 4: Not Lauren Spismen. Not all of us look alike, and 216 00:09:15,104 --> 00:09:17,464 Speaker 4: he just kept going in. He's like, I'm the other guy. 217 00:09:17,544 --> 00:09:19,984 Speaker 4: I'm the other guy, as if like there's two of us. 218 00:09:20,584 --> 00:09:23,264 Speaker 4: What you're working for, Marvel? The super Bowl commercial? 219 00:09:23,304 --> 00:09:24,704 Speaker 1: Did you get a lot of reaction to that super 220 00:09:24,744 --> 00:09:25,424 Speaker 1: Bowl commercial? 221 00:09:26,984 --> 00:09:31,424 Speaker 4: What super Bowl commercial? Oh? 222 00:09:31,464 --> 00:09:31,824 Speaker 2: You know what? 223 00:09:32,664 --> 00:09:33,184 Speaker 4: My mistake. 224 00:09:33,424 --> 00:09:36,904 Speaker 1: You know you're You're as crazy as the people on Twitter, right, 225 00:09:36,944 --> 00:09:38,304 Speaker 1: I'm not lying's Prince Burg. 226 00:09:39,264 --> 00:09:39,984 Speaker 3: That's my fault. 227 00:09:40,104 --> 00:09:42,464 Speaker 4: I know that that was my fault, my mistake. You 228 00:09:42,504 --> 00:09:43,704 Speaker 4: know what we do not all. 229 00:09:43,504 --> 00:09:46,184 Speaker 1: Look alike, black and famous. 230 00:09:46,304 --> 00:09:49,704 Speaker 4: You are guilty. I am, I am guilty, my God. 231 00:09:49,744 --> 00:09:52,464 Speaker 1: And the thing is nothing haunts you like a bad interview. 232 00:09:52,784 --> 00:09:55,704 Speaker 1: This is very specific to this job of doing these interviews, 233 00:09:55,704 --> 00:09:59,344 Speaker 1: but when you're talking to someone, you're interviewing a celebrity, 234 00:09:59,344 --> 00:10:01,504 Speaker 1: and it is for like a podcast or TV or 235 00:10:01,584 --> 00:10:04,224 Speaker 1: radio or anything like that, it's such a public failure. 236 00:10:04,304 --> 00:10:06,544 Speaker 1: It's not something you can hide. But also you kind 237 00:10:06,664 --> 00:10:08,624 Speaker 1: escape it because when you have a really bad interview, 238 00:10:08,864 --> 00:10:11,824 Speaker 1: you see that person's face every especially because they're usually 239 00:10:11,824 --> 00:10:13,864 Speaker 1: doing promo at the time. So it's like I'll have 240 00:10:13,904 --> 00:10:15,584 Speaker 1: a terrible day at work where I've asked a stupid 241 00:10:15,664 --> 00:10:17,704 Speaker 1: question that I regret, or I asked it in a 242 00:10:17,744 --> 00:10:19,184 Speaker 1: wrong way, or they got angry, and I just want 243 00:10:19,184 --> 00:10:20,344 Speaker 1: to go home and forget about it. And as I 244 00:10:20,384 --> 00:10:22,384 Speaker 1: walk home, because we're in like a main street of Sydney, 245 00:10:22,624 --> 00:10:24,744 Speaker 1: it's got all those bus stops where you had the 246 00:10:24,744 --> 00:10:27,984 Speaker 1: interchangeable digital billboards, and it's always the face of the. 247 00:10:28,024 --> 00:10:31,224 Speaker 3: Bus, and they're always like on your like Netflix, like 248 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:33,424 Speaker 3: maybe you want to watch this, And I let my 249 00:10:33,544 --> 00:10:35,384 Speaker 3: FBI agent living in my compute, I don't want to 250 00:10:35,424 --> 00:10:35,904 Speaker 3: watch this. 251 00:10:36,104 --> 00:10:38,144 Speaker 1: I'm literally gonna get run over one day walking home 252 00:10:38,144 --> 00:10:39,944 Speaker 1: from work because I have to close my eyes so 253 00:10:39,984 --> 00:10:42,704 Speaker 1: I don't see all the digital billboards blasting at me 254 00:10:42,744 --> 00:10:44,304 Speaker 1: the face of the person I just had an awkward 255 00:10:44,384 --> 00:10:44,904 Speaker 1: encounter with. 256 00:10:45,064 --> 00:10:47,304 Speaker 3: I think also a big thing about that is the 257 00:10:47,304 --> 00:10:49,504 Speaker 3: fan base that comes with the person. Like if you 258 00:10:49,544 --> 00:10:51,984 Speaker 3: look at all of these interviews, especially the ones that 259 00:10:52,024 --> 00:10:55,384 Speaker 3: are going viral right now, you talk about like Chicken 260 00:10:55,384 --> 00:10:58,864 Speaker 3: Shop Date and like hot Ones, and the interviewer is 261 00:10:58,904 --> 00:11:01,664 Speaker 3: as main of a character as the person they're interviewing. 262 00:11:01,704 --> 00:11:04,144 Speaker 3: And I think when you're of that HIVES status, you 263 00:11:04,264 --> 00:11:07,744 Speaker 3: have to be so careful because the minute you ask 264 00:11:08,104 --> 00:11:10,464 Speaker 3: not even an awkward question, but a question that their 265 00:11:10,504 --> 00:11:14,464 Speaker 3: celebrity or interviewing is uncomfortable with, immediately the comment will 266 00:11:14,504 --> 00:11:16,504 Speaker 3: be like, that's such a shame on the interviewer for 267 00:11:16,544 --> 00:11:17,304 Speaker 3: asking that question. 268 00:11:17,384 --> 00:11:17,984 Speaker 4: How dare they? 269 00:11:18,344 --> 00:11:20,424 Speaker 3: Like it's never like on the celebrity if they don't 270 00:11:20,424 --> 00:11:22,504 Speaker 3: want to answer a question or they feel uncomfortable even 271 00:11:22,504 --> 00:11:24,104 Speaker 3: if you're not sure how they're going to take it. 272 00:11:24,344 --> 00:11:26,664 Speaker 3: And I think that's a huge risk that interviews constantly 273 00:11:26,664 --> 00:11:27,104 Speaker 3: have to make. 274 00:11:27,304 --> 00:11:29,224 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a dangerous game out there, guys. It all 275 00:11:29,224 --> 00:11:31,984 Speaker 1: looks glamorous from the outside. We'll coming up next. We're 276 00:11:31,984 --> 00:11:35,064 Speaker 1: going to share some of our own interview regrets and look, 277 00:11:35,144 --> 00:11:39,344 Speaker 1: I'm just about to make a fool of myself. Oh, 278 00:11:39,384 --> 00:11:42,744 Speaker 1: a few interview regrets that we have had. I should 279 00:11:42,744 --> 00:11:44,864 Speaker 1: say I was looking back through my portfolio trying to 280 00:11:44,984 --> 00:11:46,904 Speaker 1: m because when you've been like doing this as long 281 00:11:46,944 --> 00:11:48,384 Speaker 1: as I have, there gets to a point where you 282 00:11:48,384 --> 00:11:51,104 Speaker 1: just like forget that you've interacted with these huge, famous 283 00:11:51,104 --> 00:11:53,784 Speaker 1: people because it happens so often, and so there's a 284 00:11:53,784 --> 00:11:54,984 Speaker 1: few are looking back and I'm like, that was a 285 00:11:55,024 --> 00:11:57,464 Speaker 1: boud interview. But that wasn't my fault. That was about interview. 286 00:11:57,544 --> 00:11:59,304 Speaker 1: I don't regret that guy was an idiot, and we 287 00:11:59,344 --> 00:12:00,944 Speaker 1: all know it now. But there's a few I'm like, 288 00:12:01,544 --> 00:12:03,664 Speaker 1: if I could go back in time, that's one of 289 00:12:03,664 --> 00:12:06,024 Speaker 1: my biggest wishes. If I could have one superpower, I 290 00:12:06,024 --> 00:12:08,144 Speaker 1: wish I could just like I have one reset a 291 00:12:08,224 --> 00:12:09,704 Speaker 1: day where I could like hit a button and go 292 00:12:09,744 --> 00:12:12,104 Speaker 1: back an hour and half of it is because I 293 00:12:12,144 --> 00:12:12,904 Speaker 1: just want to go back. 294 00:12:12,744 --> 00:12:15,184 Speaker 4: And redo an interview. I don't want to change the world. 295 00:12:15,224 --> 00:12:16,984 Speaker 1: That's not my business. I don't want to like mess 296 00:12:17,024 --> 00:12:19,704 Speaker 1: with like the flow of life or have consequences of 297 00:12:19,704 --> 00:12:21,624 Speaker 1: time travel. I just want to go back and redo 298 00:12:21,744 --> 00:12:23,704 Speaker 1: an interview. Question one that. 299 00:12:23,704 --> 00:12:24,424 Speaker 4: Sticks in my head. 300 00:12:24,464 --> 00:12:25,624 Speaker 1: I mean there's a few, but some of them not 301 00:12:25,664 --> 00:12:28,464 Speaker 1: ready to talk about yet. They're too fresh. 302 00:12:28,704 --> 00:12:31,704 Speaker 3: Soon we need a first discuss it without therapist, and 303 00:12:31,704 --> 00:12:32,144 Speaker 3: then we'll give that. 304 00:12:32,344 --> 00:12:33,504 Speaker 4: But I'll come back to you, guys. Don't worry. 305 00:12:33,504 --> 00:12:35,424 Speaker 1: I end up telling spillers all of my dark secrets 306 00:12:35,464 --> 00:12:37,944 Speaker 1: at some points. That's still coming. But Margo, Robbie and 307 00:12:37,944 --> 00:12:40,464 Speaker 1: Greta Gerwig for Barbie. I had a bit of regret 308 00:12:40,584 --> 00:12:43,064 Speaker 1: around how I started that interview because I put so 309 00:12:43,184 --> 00:12:45,624 Speaker 1: much time and thought into it. They were doing so 310 00:12:45,784 --> 00:12:47,704 Speaker 1: much press, so I was so aware they'd been asked 311 00:12:47,704 --> 00:12:48,584 Speaker 1: every single question. 312 00:12:48,744 --> 00:12:50,344 Speaker 3: And it's so hard to get cut through with those 313 00:12:50,384 --> 00:12:53,504 Speaker 3: big interviews because everyone's interviewing them at the same day, 314 00:12:53,664 --> 00:12:56,384 Speaker 3: same time that like articles will probably go out live. 315 00:12:56,224 --> 00:12:57,424 Speaker 4: At the same time hundred percent. 316 00:12:57,664 --> 00:12:59,784 Speaker 1: And also we didn't get to see the full movie beforehand. 317 00:13:01,504 --> 00:13:03,464 Speaker 1: I'm flying blind here. But I had so much to 318 00:13:03,504 --> 00:13:05,704 Speaker 1: ask them, and so I put so much thought and 319 00:13:05,744 --> 00:13:07,944 Speaker 1: time into what my first question would be, and I 320 00:13:08,024 --> 00:13:10,144 Speaker 1: decided to ask them about this story that was going 321 00:13:10,184 --> 00:13:12,544 Speaker 1: on that someone from Mattel had like jumped on a 322 00:13:12,584 --> 00:13:15,824 Speaker 1: flight to go across the world and arrive on set 323 00:13:16,064 --> 00:13:18,544 Speaker 1: because they were worried about something was happening on the 324 00:13:18,544 --> 00:13:20,984 Speaker 1: Barbie set. Obviously, that sounds more dramatic than it was, 325 00:13:21,024 --> 00:13:22,344 Speaker 1: and I knew no one was trying to shut down 326 00:13:22,384 --> 00:13:24,504 Speaker 1: the Barbie movie. And I didn't phrase it like that, 327 00:13:24,904 --> 00:13:27,464 Speaker 1: but my idea was to say, like, do you think 328 00:13:27,464 --> 00:13:29,424 Speaker 1: this is a bit of a precursor forult people are 329 00:13:29,464 --> 00:13:31,304 Speaker 1: going to say about the Barbie Movie that they think 330 00:13:31,344 --> 00:13:33,544 Speaker 1: everyone's expecting it to be this one thing and it's 331 00:13:33,584 --> 00:13:36,024 Speaker 1: actually something else. And they were lovely, I've got to 332 00:13:36,024 --> 00:13:38,184 Speaker 1: say that, so lovely and they knew how to give 333 00:13:38,264 --> 00:13:39,664 Speaker 1: it into you and they were there to work on 334 00:13:39,704 --> 00:13:42,064 Speaker 1: the day, and I love that from Greta and Margo, 335 00:13:42,264 --> 00:13:44,904 Speaker 1: but also they just burst into laughter and they're like, 336 00:13:45,064 --> 00:13:47,504 Speaker 1: way to make it sound way more dramatic than it was. 337 00:13:47,944 --> 00:13:49,784 Speaker 1: And Greta was like, you're making it sound like someone 338 00:13:49,824 --> 00:13:51,304 Speaker 1: call up them on the phone and was like we 339 00:13:51,384 --> 00:13:53,024 Speaker 1: got to shut down this picture and stuff. And then 340 00:13:53,064 --> 00:13:54,064 Speaker 1: it kind of just went off the rails and I 341 00:13:54,144 --> 00:13:55,464 Speaker 1: kept trying to bring it back and say like, no, no, no, 342 00:13:55,504 --> 00:13:57,464 Speaker 1: that's not what I meant. I meant like, do you 343 00:13:57,504 --> 00:14:00,624 Speaker 1: think this movie is being seen in a different way? 344 00:14:00,664 --> 00:14:02,224 Speaker 1: And it just kind of went off the rails, and 345 00:14:02,264 --> 00:14:04,544 Speaker 1: obviously like it was just a Barbie mania after that, 346 00:14:04,624 --> 00:14:06,424 Speaker 1: and every time I saw their faces somewhere we went 347 00:14:06,464 --> 00:14:08,704 Speaker 1: and saw the movie or anything, I was just thinking 348 00:14:09,184 --> 00:14:11,504 Speaker 1: about how I just tanked and how I'm sure that 349 00:14:11,544 --> 00:14:13,024 Speaker 1: it think about me at all, But if they did, 350 00:14:13,064 --> 00:14:15,064 Speaker 1: they'd be like that woman in Australia asked, it's a 351 00:14:15,064 --> 00:14:15,784 Speaker 1: stupid question. 352 00:14:17,544 --> 00:14:18,544 Speaker 4: Don't think they think that. 353 00:14:18,784 --> 00:14:20,544 Speaker 3: I also want to point out that you're also on 354 00:14:20,624 --> 00:14:24,064 Speaker 3: like a really strict time. Yeah, So it's so easy 355 00:14:24,064 --> 00:14:25,784 Speaker 3: to get so frazzle in that situation where you're like, 356 00:14:25,784 --> 00:14:27,504 Speaker 3: can you please stop laughing because I have so many 357 00:14:27,504 --> 00:14:28,704 Speaker 3: more questions, and. 358 00:14:28,664 --> 00:14:30,544 Speaker 1: You're like, I just obviously if we had heaps of time, 359 00:14:30,544 --> 00:14:31,864 Speaker 1: I would really get into this. 360 00:14:32,104 --> 00:14:33,944 Speaker 3: We've got to want to laugh too, but I actually 361 00:14:33,944 --> 00:14:35,664 Speaker 3: can't because I don't want to get. 362 00:14:35,384 --> 00:14:37,264 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to ask the big question and 363 00:14:37,304 --> 00:14:39,144 Speaker 1: there's no time to get into it. I remember the 364 00:14:39,184 --> 00:14:41,304 Speaker 1: first time I interviewed Daisy Egre Jones, and it was 365 00:14:41,424 --> 00:14:44,504 Speaker 1: right after normal people had come out, and so she was, 366 00:14:44,544 --> 00:14:46,184 Speaker 1: you know, the talk of the town, the talk of 367 00:14:46,224 --> 00:14:49,384 Speaker 1: the world. We're in lockdown, everyone's watching, everyone's obssessing over 368 00:14:49,424 --> 00:14:51,664 Speaker 1: her and Paul I got one of the few interviews 369 00:14:51,664 --> 00:14:54,384 Speaker 1: after that, and it was like my first zoom interview. 370 00:14:54,464 --> 00:14:55,744 Speaker 1: I had just forgured out how to use in that 371 00:14:55,784 --> 00:14:58,424 Speaker 1: day because the world had just shut down. She's calling 372 00:14:58,464 --> 00:15:00,824 Speaker 1: me from a zoom in her little bedroom in her 373 00:15:00,824 --> 00:15:02,944 Speaker 1: flat in London because she's not rich and famous yet, 374 00:15:03,104 --> 00:15:04,984 Speaker 1: and she's crouched down trying to like not wake up 375 00:15:04,984 --> 00:15:07,784 Speaker 1: her housemates. We have this huge conversation that our fringes 376 00:15:07,784 --> 00:15:09,944 Speaker 1: are overgrown because we're in lockdown, and then I was like, 377 00:15:09,944 --> 00:15:12,064 Speaker 1: this is so so lovely and so sweet, and she was. 378 00:15:11,984 --> 00:15:13,344 Speaker 4: Like, it's so nice to talk to you. 379 00:15:13,344 --> 00:15:14,904 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to anyone for days. 380 00:15:14,944 --> 00:15:16,184 Speaker 4: Like it was so cute. 381 00:15:16,264 --> 00:15:17,344 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh my god, you just 382 00:15:17,464 --> 00:15:18,864 Speaker 1: have to ask you about the sex scenes and the 383 00:15:18,864 --> 00:15:21,344 Speaker 1: pubic hair wig that you wore in the TV show 384 00:15:21,384 --> 00:15:22,664 Speaker 1: and there's no way to sugar coat it. 385 00:15:22,664 --> 00:15:24,664 Speaker 4: I just got to get in there, and it's not 386 00:15:24,704 --> 00:15:25,944 Speaker 4: exactly I regret. 387 00:15:25,744 --> 00:15:27,064 Speaker 1: Like this is one of those things when it kind 388 00:15:27,104 --> 00:15:28,984 Speaker 1: of goes off well, like talking about friends and like 389 00:15:29,024 --> 00:15:34,224 Speaker 1: speaking about Uncontrollable, because I was like, but it was 390 00:15:34,224 --> 00:15:36,624 Speaker 1: such a groundbreaking part of the TV show because she 391 00:15:36,624 --> 00:15:38,704 Speaker 1: looked kind of shocked that I asked her about it, 392 00:15:38,744 --> 00:15:40,944 Speaker 1: and then when I explained a bit more about how 393 00:15:40,984 --> 00:15:42,624 Speaker 1: important I thought it was and I wanted a job 394 00:15:42,624 --> 00:15:44,504 Speaker 1: about mechanics, and she went through all the mechanics of 395 00:15:44,544 --> 00:15:46,624 Speaker 1: putting on the fake Pugby hair and why it was important, 396 00:15:46,944 --> 00:15:48,464 Speaker 1: and then afterwards she felt like, I just feel like 397 00:15:48,624 --> 00:15:50,384 Speaker 1: I was asking her a school assignment, because. 398 00:15:50,184 --> 00:15:52,504 Speaker 4: She was like, was that okay, I answer your question? 399 00:15:52,584 --> 00:15:54,424 Speaker 4: Did I get it right? And I was like, no, no, Daisy, 400 00:15:54,464 --> 00:15:56,384 Speaker 4: you did a great job. Oh my god, love you. 401 00:15:56,744 --> 00:16:01,544 Speaker 1: Sometimes I regret, in a more serious note, sometimes holding 402 00:16:01,664 --> 00:16:05,744 Speaker 1: especially female actresses accountable for some of the dramatic headlines 403 00:16:05,744 --> 00:16:07,864 Speaker 1: that are around their shows. And it's such a fine 404 00:16:07,904 --> 00:16:10,864 Speaker 1: line because if some huge story is playing out around 405 00:16:11,344 --> 00:16:13,464 Speaker 1: one of their co stars or something with the movie, 406 00:16:13,504 --> 00:16:16,664 Speaker 1: it's like you feel a responsibility as a journalist that 407 00:16:16,664 --> 00:16:18,984 Speaker 1: that is the question you have to ask them. But 408 00:16:18,984 --> 00:16:21,424 Speaker 1: at the same time, sometimes you're really putting them on 409 00:16:21,464 --> 00:16:23,584 Speaker 1: a spot and kind of ruining they into you and 410 00:16:23,664 --> 00:16:26,664 Speaker 1: ruining the work that they've done by making them be 411 00:16:26,744 --> 00:16:30,704 Speaker 1: accountable for something they have no responsibility for. And one 412 00:16:30,744 --> 00:16:32,464 Speaker 1: that I have a huge amount of regret and I 413 00:16:32,504 --> 00:16:33,744 Speaker 1: wish I could just send her a little note and 414 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:36,304 Speaker 1: be like sorry about that. Is no one would probably 415 00:16:36,304 --> 00:16:37,504 Speaker 1: know this actress, but I'm sure a lot of people 416 00:16:37,504 --> 00:16:39,624 Speaker 1: would kind of know this show. It's The Royals if 417 00:16:39,664 --> 00:16:41,504 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, it's such a good just like 418 00:16:41,504 --> 00:16:43,984 Speaker 1: a binge watch. It's like Liz Hurley's The Star. It's 419 00:16:44,024 --> 00:16:46,624 Speaker 1: just off the rails. I remember this reimagine the Royal 420 00:16:46,704 --> 00:16:49,384 Speaker 1: Family had a real point in time and Alexandra Park 421 00:16:49,464 --> 00:16:51,944 Speaker 1: played Princess Eleanor and that she was a star. She 422 00:16:52,024 --> 00:16:54,864 Speaker 1: came to Australia to promote one of the latest seasons 423 00:16:54,944 --> 00:16:57,024 Speaker 1: just as it was really taking off in Australia because 424 00:16:57,024 --> 00:16:59,744 Speaker 1: it had come to stand everyone was watching it, and 425 00:16:59,824 --> 00:17:02,544 Speaker 1: at the same time the show was all this drama 426 00:17:02,544 --> 00:17:04,664 Speaker 1: around it because Mark Schwan, who had been the creator 427 00:17:04,704 --> 00:17:07,504 Speaker 1: of One Tree Hill, all these allegations against him for 428 00:17:07,544 --> 00:17:10,064 Speaker 1: like abuse and sexual soul and everything had come out 429 00:17:10,504 --> 00:17:12,824 Speaker 1: and he was fired from The Royals, which was his show, 430 00:17:12,904 --> 00:17:14,784 Speaker 1: and then the cast of the Royals had also put 431 00:17:14,784 --> 00:17:16,904 Speaker 1: out a public letter saying that he had been like 432 00:17:17,024 --> 00:17:20,704 Speaker 1: terrible and saiding all these allegations, and Alexander's team was like, 433 00:17:20,744 --> 00:17:22,264 Speaker 1: don't ask her about it, and I was like, well, 434 00:17:22,264 --> 00:17:24,984 Speaker 1: I'm going to, because how can I not? And then 435 00:17:25,024 --> 00:17:27,024 Speaker 1: I started asking her in the interview and she was 436 00:17:27,064 --> 00:17:29,224 Speaker 1: like lovely about it. But I could also be like, oh, fuck, 437 00:17:29,264 --> 00:17:32,024 Speaker 1: this woman has just been through a really traumatic situation. 438 00:17:32,144 --> 00:17:33,784 Speaker 4: She has to do press for this show. 439 00:17:33,944 --> 00:17:36,104 Speaker 1: And this is nothing to do with her, Like she 440 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:39,424 Speaker 1: wasn't actually involved in any of the allegations or anything 441 00:17:39,464 --> 00:17:40,864 Speaker 1: like that. And so I do have a lot of 442 00:17:40,904 --> 00:17:42,984 Speaker 1: regret that I was like I went into an interview 443 00:17:43,064 --> 00:17:44,304 Speaker 1: being like I'm going to ask her and I'm going 444 00:17:44,344 --> 00:17:45,944 Speaker 1: to get her to talk and I'm going to hold 445 00:17:45,984 --> 00:17:48,584 Speaker 1: her to account. Afterwards, I was like, that wasn't the 446 00:17:48,584 --> 00:17:49,184 Speaker 1: way to do it. 447 00:17:50,184 --> 00:17:53,464 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would regret that. Thanks for that support. 448 00:17:53,504 --> 00:17:55,784 Speaker 3: I was sure she's fine though it is, and also 449 00:17:55,904 --> 00:17:59,264 Speaker 3: like sometimes these are important questions, like the struggle I 450 00:17:59,264 --> 00:18:03,384 Speaker 3: think when you're a journalist, is wanting to like make 451 00:18:03,464 --> 00:18:06,304 Speaker 3: the person you're interviewing comfortable, but also knowing you're can 452 00:18:06,304 --> 00:18:08,784 Speaker 3: doing for a whole audience and these stories as well. 453 00:18:08,824 --> 00:18:12,544 Speaker 1: And yeah, exactly exactly. It's such an easy get sometimes 454 00:18:12,544 --> 00:18:14,784 Speaker 1: when there's backlash. And that's why so many actresses don't 455 00:18:14,984 --> 00:18:17,144 Speaker 1: comment on anything, because as soon as they comment on 456 00:18:17,224 --> 00:18:21,104 Speaker 1: any sort of backlash and then you can say to them, well, 457 00:18:21,184 --> 00:18:22,944 Speaker 1: you recently put out a statement and that's your in. 458 00:18:23,024 --> 00:18:25,024 Speaker 1: And once they've said that, it's public fodder. So I 459 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:27,824 Speaker 1: understand why they don't. But yeah, look a couple of 460 00:18:27,864 --> 00:18:29,704 Speaker 1: regrets in there. Do you have any you are you 461 00:18:29,744 --> 00:18:30,584 Speaker 1: regret in life? 462 00:18:31,544 --> 00:18:34,224 Speaker 3: I have one regret, nothing that I did personally. I 463 00:18:34,304 --> 00:18:36,864 Speaker 3: want to say, I regret the whole interview happening. 464 00:18:37,104 --> 00:18:39,704 Speaker 4: Okay, well that's the bar. I've got plenty of those. 465 00:18:40,264 --> 00:18:44,824 Speaker 3: Basically, I was interviewing a very famous Australian comedian. 466 00:18:44,944 --> 00:18:46,984 Speaker 4: Yes, well I will not name, but. 467 00:18:47,224 --> 00:18:48,704 Speaker 1: I love how I just named all of mine in 468 00:18:48,744 --> 00:18:50,904 Speaker 1: Burns and Bridges. You're gonna blame. 469 00:18:50,704 --> 00:18:54,104 Speaker 3: Her, Yeah, I'm blaming mine, not myself. Okay, So she 470 00:18:54,304 --> 00:18:57,584 Speaker 3: came in hungover, which you know what I've. 471 00:18:57,424 --> 00:18:59,784 Speaker 1: Will be in there, so you can't make that the 472 00:18:59,824 --> 00:19:00,744 Speaker 1: interviewer's problem. 473 00:19:00,864 --> 00:19:03,064 Speaker 3: No, I'm like, and I'm a party girl. I respect 474 00:19:03,064 --> 00:19:05,464 Speaker 3: the party. I always respect the party, don't get me wrong. 475 00:19:05,904 --> 00:19:07,384 Speaker 3: So I was like kind of vibing with her. I 476 00:19:07,464 --> 00:19:09,824 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, vibe say I'm also hungover. 477 00:19:09,904 --> 00:19:10,264 Speaker 4: I wasn't. 478 00:19:10,464 --> 00:19:12,984 Speaker 3: I was like trying to relate. I was interviewing her 479 00:19:13,104 --> 00:19:15,664 Speaker 3: about some recent work she did, and I was asking 480 00:19:15,664 --> 00:19:18,584 Speaker 3: her questions and she couldn't remember. 481 00:19:18,224 --> 00:19:19,304 Speaker 4: What she actually did. 482 00:19:19,904 --> 00:19:22,784 Speaker 3: It was actually insane, and the thing I was doing 483 00:19:22,824 --> 00:19:24,584 Speaker 3: it was like a long time ago, like a few 484 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,904 Speaker 3: years ago, but at mum and me at the time, 485 00:19:27,064 --> 00:19:29,104 Speaker 3: I was big into the dating space, like I was 486 00:19:29,144 --> 00:19:31,744 Speaker 3: a dating and relationships writer. That was my main forte. 487 00:19:32,384 --> 00:19:34,904 Speaker 3: And part of the whole interviews I was doing was 488 00:19:34,944 --> 00:19:37,024 Speaker 3: like they had to give me a dating story, like 489 00:19:37,064 --> 00:19:41,304 Speaker 3: a terrible dating story. And we had given her publicist 490 00:19:41,424 --> 00:19:43,544 Speaker 3: and herself like, be prepared, I'm going to ask you 491 00:19:43,584 --> 00:19:45,224 Speaker 3: the story, and they were like, yep, got it, you'll 492 00:19:45,224 --> 00:19:47,784 Speaker 3: have a story ready. She didn't have one ready. And 493 00:19:47,824 --> 00:19:50,224 Speaker 3: it was one of those situations where just for good content, 494 00:19:50,344 --> 00:19:52,184 Speaker 3: I had to give my own story for her to 495 00:19:52,264 --> 00:19:54,384 Speaker 3: react to. Like a story that I was saving for 496 00:19:54,464 --> 00:19:56,944 Speaker 3: like my like my own like thing, and I had 497 00:19:56,944 --> 00:19:59,184 Speaker 3: to use it for this interview just to like make 498 00:19:59,224 --> 00:20:00,744 Speaker 3: it like some sort of content. 499 00:20:00,824 --> 00:20:02,144 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I guess in 500 00:20:02,184 --> 00:20:05,104 Speaker 1: some cases we are all Andy Cohen and asking someone 501 00:20:05,144 --> 00:20:07,664 Speaker 1: if they've taken assuming the lady Pond, and I. 502 00:20:07,584 --> 00:20:09,424 Speaker 4: Guess there's just there's no way out of here. She's 503 00:20:09,464 --> 00:20:14,624 Speaker 4: got to push through it. 504 00:20:14,784 --> 00:20:20,264 Speaker 3: The weekend watch It's weekend watch time, and today I 505 00:20:20,464 --> 00:20:26,664 Speaker 3: am recommending a Stan Original documentary. It's called Trailblazers, Brace Yourselves. 506 00:20:26,704 --> 00:20:29,224 Speaker 3: It's a sports doco, which I know I'm a big 507 00:20:29,264 --> 00:20:31,624 Speaker 3: fan of and I always go on about my sports documentaries, 508 00:20:31,624 --> 00:20:34,504 Speaker 3: but this one is really good. It is about the 509 00:20:34,624 --> 00:20:38,304 Speaker 3: history of the Australian women's football team, the Matilda's. They're 510 00:20:38,344 --> 00:20:40,624 Speaker 3: having a big moment right now. I know, like everyone 511 00:20:40,704 --> 00:20:43,104 Speaker 3: went to the games when they were here for the 512 00:20:43,304 --> 00:20:45,704 Speaker 3: women's fee for World Cup, and I think now is 513 00:20:45,704 --> 00:20:47,784 Speaker 3: the best time to watch this documentary as we're leading 514 00:20:47,824 --> 00:20:49,824 Speaker 3: up to the Olympics, because I'm representing us in that 515 00:20:49,904 --> 00:20:53,304 Speaker 3: as well. The history of women's football is so insane, 516 00:20:53,384 --> 00:20:55,504 Speaker 3: Like there was a point where they were starting to 517 00:20:55,504 --> 00:20:58,304 Speaker 3: get really really big, especially when the men had to 518 00:20:58,344 --> 00:21:00,864 Speaker 3: go overseas for war, Like they were the entertainment. They 519 00:21:00,904 --> 00:21:03,544 Speaker 3: were the ones who were like doing sport and having 520 00:21:03,624 --> 00:21:06,184 Speaker 3: these big games and having these like sold out stadiums. 521 00:21:06,424 --> 00:21:08,064 Speaker 3: And then when the men came back, there was kind 522 00:21:08,064 --> 00:21:10,504 Speaker 3: of like this big clash over women's and men's footb all, 523 00:21:10,624 --> 00:21:13,224 Speaker 3: especially in England. And in England they actually made it 524 00:21:13,264 --> 00:21:15,944 Speaker 3: illegal for women to play on men's pitches and I. 525 00:21:15,944 --> 00:21:17,824 Speaker 4: Was like, freaking hell, that's crazy. 526 00:21:18,024 --> 00:21:20,384 Speaker 3: And because England was kind of like the top country 527 00:21:20,384 --> 00:21:23,784 Speaker 3: for football, that legal rule kind of started filtering out 528 00:21:23,784 --> 00:21:26,304 Speaker 3: to other countries where it became really uncouth for women 529 00:21:26,344 --> 00:21:30,024 Speaker 3: to play football. And the women who were ex Matilda's 530 00:21:30,024 --> 00:21:31,784 Speaker 3: players are just amazing. So many of them had to 531 00:21:31,784 --> 00:21:33,704 Speaker 3: pay to play, so many of them lost jobs just 532 00:21:33,704 --> 00:21:35,784 Speaker 3: because they were traveling for games. They had to like 533 00:21:35,784 --> 00:21:37,824 Speaker 3: stitch their own uniforms, they got hand me down from 534 00:21:37,864 --> 00:21:40,144 Speaker 3: the men. It was just like the amount they went 535 00:21:40,184 --> 00:21:43,584 Speaker 3: through just to play the game was absolutely outstanding. 536 00:21:44,664 --> 00:21:47,304 Speaker 4: These are the women who changed football at the moment 537 00:21:47,384 --> 00:21:51,384 Speaker 4: remembered forever witnessed the incredible wise there was no infrastructure, 538 00:21:51,464 --> 00:21:53,944 Speaker 4: was really daunting. Just to fight to earn respect of 539 00:21:54,064 --> 00:21:56,264 Speaker 4: Australia's national teams. 540 00:21:56,744 --> 00:21:58,424 Speaker 1: It gives me goosebum was thinking about. 541 00:21:58,344 --> 00:21:59,424 Speaker 4: Discover the legacy. 542 00:21:59,584 --> 00:22:03,024 Speaker 3: Striking was the last option and Unbreakaby. 543 00:22:02,464 --> 00:22:05,664 Speaker 4: Spirits had come so far that defines them. This is 544 00:22:05,744 --> 00:22:06,384 Speaker 4: our story. 545 00:22:06,624 --> 00:22:09,624 Speaker 3: So it's such a like wholesome, really good, feel good 546 00:22:09,624 --> 00:22:10,944 Speaker 3: watch understand. 547 00:22:11,104 --> 00:22:15,384 Speaker 1: Well, I'm also recommending a stand show today because I 548 00:22:15,384 --> 00:22:16,784 Speaker 1: have been waiting for this one to drop some and 549 00:22:16,824 --> 00:22:18,424 Speaker 1: so much. The screen is a little while ago and 550 00:22:18,464 --> 00:22:21,824 Speaker 1: it's finally here. It's called A Good Girl's Guide to Murder. 551 00:22:22,144 --> 00:22:24,464 Speaker 1: I love that title, isn't it. I want that to 552 00:22:24,504 --> 00:22:26,544 Speaker 1: be like on my Grasston. Well, I'm sure we can 553 00:22:26,624 --> 00:22:29,624 Speaker 1: organize that. That's a separate conversation. So this new series 554 00:22:29,704 --> 00:22:31,464 Speaker 1: is based on the best selling novel of the same 555 00:22:31,544 --> 00:22:33,464 Speaker 1: name by Holly Jackson. So when that book came out, 556 00:22:33,464 --> 00:22:35,704 Speaker 1: and it's the first in the series. 557 00:22:35,984 --> 00:22:38,504 Speaker 4: Reading that book rode on her bookshelf. 558 00:22:38,624 --> 00:22:40,824 Speaker 1: When it came out, it was like shortlisted for all 559 00:22:40,824 --> 00:22:43,664 Speaker 1: these different awards and critics loved it and readers loved it, 560 00:22:43,744 --> 00:22:45,784 Speaker 1: and so it's finally been turned into a series. There's 561 00:22:45,824 --> 00:22:49,344 Speaker 1: six episodes and the star of the show is Emma Myers, 562 00:22:49,344 --> 00:22:51,464 Speaker 1: who a lot of people would know as Enid from 563 00:22:51,464 --> 00:22:53,784 Speaker 1: Wednesday because it's like she's the real breakout star for that, 564 00:22:53,984 --> 00:22:56,384 Speaker 1: and she's filming Wednesday, the second season of that. At 565 00:22:56,384 --> 00:22:59,904 Speaker 1: the moment, I think, really, yes, she's amazing in Wednesday, 566 00:22:59,904 --> 00:23:00,904 Speaker 1: and she's amazing in A. 567 00:23:00,904 --> 00:23:01,944 Speaker 4: Good Girl's Guide to Murder. 568 00:23:02,144 --> 00:23:04,664 Speaker 1: So she plays the leader Pip, who's a high school girl, 569 00:23:04,904 --> 00:23:08,424 Speaker 1: and basically she becomes very kind of fascinated with this 570 00:23:08,584 --> 00:23:10,984 Speaker 1: murder that took place five years for the events of 571 00:23:11,024 --> 00:23:14,064 Speaker 1: the show for this girl called Andy Bell, and the 572 00:23:14,104 --> 00:23:16,824 Speaker 1: police and everyone in the town, school and stuff all 573 00:23:16,864 --> 00:23:19,304 Speaker 1: think they know exactly what happened to Andy, that her 574 00:23:19,304 --> 00:23:21,904 Speaker 1: boyfriend murdered her case clothes the police or like he 575 00:23:21,944 --> 00:23:25,184 Speaker 1: definitely did it. Everyone knows. But then Pip, who's kind 576 00:23:25,224 --> 00:23:28,344 Speaker 1: of like very smart, very determined, very kind of across 577 00:23:28,384 --> 00:23:30,984 Speaker 1: what's happening, gets some information and she's like, I don't 578 00:23:31,024 --> 00:23:33,424 Speaker 1: think he did kill her five years ago. I think 579 00:23:33,464 --> 00:23:36,344 Speaker 1: something here has happened. And if he's not the murderer 580 00:23:36,544 --> 00:23:38,624 Speaker 1: of this big case in town of this young woman, 581 00:23:38,704 --> 00:23:39,464 Speaker 1: then who. 582 00:23:39,384 --> 00:23:41,024 Speaker 4: Is Nancy Drew. 583 00:23:41,424 --> 00:23:43,104 Speaker 1: It is a bit like I think maybe like Nancy 584 00:23:43,184 --> 00:23:45,744 Speaker 1: Drew pretty little liars, but a bit more elevated than that. 585 00:23:45,784 --> 00:23:47,944 Speaker 1: But like if you love that sort of like Veronica 586 00:23:48,064 --> 00:23:50,424 Speaker 1: Mars greater show of all. You know, if you like 587 00:23:50,464 --> 00:23:52,984 Speaker 1: that kind of like young spunky woman who's smarter than 588 00:23:52,984 --> 00:23:55,384 Speaker 1: everyone around her soulves a murder, then you're like this. 589 00:23:55,664 --> 00:23:57,904 Speaker 1: So then she starts delving into this murder of what 590 00:23:58,024 --> 00:23:59,984 Speaker 1: really happened to kind of uncover the truth. 591 00:24:00,784 --> 00:24:01,984 Speaker 4: My name's Pip Fitzmoby. 592 00:24:02,664 --> 00:24:04,704 Speaker 1: For the last few months, I've been investigating the Andy 593 00:24:04,704 --> 00:24:05,224 Speaker 1: Bell case. 594 00:24:05,584 --> 00:24:08,464 Speaker 4: Oh and just so you know, they got the wrong person. 595 00:24:10,504 --> 00:24:16,064 Speaker 4: Bribe like you that's are scared to do. Please believe 596 00:24:16,104 --> 00:24:17,304 Speaker 4: that your brother was innocent. 597 00:24:17,864 --> 00:24:18,864 Speaker 1: So if you didn't, who did? 598 00:24:19,144 --> 00:24:21,584 Speaker 4: I guess that's what we need to find out. There 599 00:24:21,584 --> 00:24:23,984 Speaker 4: are a million of scrappencies about that night. Any one 600 00:24:24,024 --> 00:24:26,064 Speaker 4: of them could have killed Andy. What are you girls 601 00:24:26,104 --> 00:24:26,744 Speaker 4: talking about? 602 00:24:27,544 --> 00:24:27,664 Speaker 2: Ten? 603 00:24:28,504 --> 00:24:31,944 Speaker 1: So it's six episodes. It's really engaging. If you love 604 00:24:31,984 --> 00:24:33,504 Speaker 1: the book, then you love seeing it on the screen. 605 00:24:33,544 --> 00:24:35,224 Speaker 1: And if you haven't read the book, then don't google 606 00:24:35,264 --> 00:24:37,424 Speaker 1: anything about it. Just sit down and watch it because 607 00:24:37,464 --> 00:24:39,944 Speaker 1: you'll be really interested of how the story unfolds. So 608 00:24:40,144 --> 00:24:41,944 Speaker 1: that's a Good Girl's Guide to Murder and it's out 609 00:24:41,944 --> 00:24:44,424 Speaker 1: on stand now. Well, thank you so much for listening 610 00:24:44,464 --> 00:24:46,424 Speaker 1: to the Spill today. And if you love the Spill 611 00:24:46,824 --> 00:24:48,664 Speaker 1: or if you hate it, we're not against a hate listen. 612 00:24:48,704 --> 00:24:52,064 Speaker 1: We still get the downloads. Please head on over to 613 00:24:52,144 --> 00:24:54,784 Speaker 1: Apple and leave us a review and we'll see you 614 00:24:54,824 --> 00:24:56,904 Speaker 1: on momamere dot com dot au and back here on 615 00:24:56,904 --> 00:24:58,864 Speaker 1: your podcast feed at three pm on Monday. 616 00:24:59,184 --> 00:25:05,144 Speaker 4: Bye, see us, L