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Speaker 3: From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop
Speaker 3: culture fix.
Speaker 2: I'm m Verna and I'm Laura Brodnick, and you're back
Speaker 2: from your jet study.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be back. I mean, I love
Speaker 3: you and ash I love me more.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know that's literally your brand.
Speaker 3: No, I'm really really happy to be back. I was
Speaker 3: lucky enough to spend a week overseas at Singapore. It
Speaker 3: was actually my first international trip since COVID, so in
Speaker 3: four years. Really, Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: And you're on a for meals so you get to
Speaker 2: go write a travel writing article, which is so far good.
Speaker 3: But I did want to talk about quickly. This is
Speaker 3: not part of the episode, and I haven't told you.
Speaker 3: I haven't told you what I'm okay. I usually raw
Speaker 3: dog flights yet serious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I sit there, even an international flight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I sit there and watch the flight.
Speaker 1: That's my worst night, I know.
Speaker 3: But I decided to get some movies under my belt.
Speaker 3: So there are a few movies I haven't seen. Couldn't
Speaker 3: find them on streaming, so I wanted to kind of
Speaker 3: check them off my list. So two movies I've watched
Speaker 3: back to back was June two. That's a tough one
Speaker 3: for a plane and Furiosa. Oh no, that's better for
Speaker 3: a plane. I am convinced they are the same movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Everything I think about when I think about these two movies,
Speaker 3: I've merged into one.
Speaker 2: So usually probably exhausted and you're watching them half asleep.
Speaker 1: They're so similar.
Speaker 3: There's like people fighting in a desert, fighting over water.
Speaker 3: There are like pale bald people who sacrifice their lives.
Speaker 3: It's the same movie.
Speaker 1: Actually, you're right.
Speaker 2: They are unofficially part of the same kinematic universe.
Speaker 3: The sand storms like it's the same movie. So if
Speaker 3: you haven't watched either of them, just watch one.
Speaker 2: A good double feature and you'll get the or just
Speaker 2: watch one you'll get the overall plot of one.
Speaker 3: Anyway, On the show today, Tammy Hembro got married this weekend,
Speaker 3: and we have some logistical questions plus the press tour
Speaker 3: that we're holding space for the first.
Speaker 2: First, if you cast your mind back to October, a
Speaker 2: Timothy Chalamey lookalike contest took place and it really unleashed
Speaker 2: hell upon Earth because since then we've had a poor
Speaker 2: mescal look.
Speaker 1: Like competition doubles. I was there for that.
Speaker 2: I know you would have fallen over for that. Harry
Speaker 2: Styles looked like competition in London, and then a Jeremy
Speaker 2: Allen White look like competition in Chicago where the prize
Speaker 2: there was only fifty dollars and some cigarettes. But you know,
Speaker 2: lots of men expensive. They are expensive in this economy.
Speaker 2: And so about a month later, because Australia always behind
Speaker 2: the times, always just a little off the trends, about
Speaker 2: a month later, this trend has come to our shores
Speaker 2: and this weekend we had to look like competitions here
Speaker 2: in Australia.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the first one was a heath Ledger looked like
Speaker 2: competition in Sydney, and you and I were busy.
Speaker 1: Gals.
Speaker 2: We didn't go, but we know someone who did and
Speaker 2: we have brought her on the pod. We forced her
Speaker 2: into the pod. It's Mma MIA's social media producer Olivia James.
Speaker 2: Hi name, Hello Live. So Olivia James does all of
Speaker 2: our red carpet reporting, so you might her from her
Speaker 2: break up.
Speaker 1: Content from the logis asking celebrities how to heal a.
Speaker 2: Broken heart, asking Chris Hemsworth to give you a rental application.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was one of the recommendations. Yeah, and it worked.
Speaker 3: Basically asked celebrities for life advice and then dislocating your
Speaker 3: shoulder just after interviewing Paul mescal at the Gladiator Too premiere.
Speaker 1: Not on purpose, though, I would like to say that
Speaker 1: it was not on purpose. But we saw the video,
Speaker 1: we know, yeah, we heard it.
Speaker 2: So this weekend, you put your life on the line
Speaker 2: by going to a heath Ledger look like competition. So well,
Speaker 2: I want to know how did you know this was happening.
Speaker 2: Where did that information come from?
Speaker 1: I saw it on can we Drop Miss Double Bay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: her Instagram. So I saw it on her Instagram story
Speaker 1: and then I took it to our upper dogshad of content,
Speaker 1: head of content. I called them the big dogs whatever,
Speaker 1: and I said, look, this is going down and she
Speaker 1: went great, and I was a poster somewhere. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: then this is an interesting room a right. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: then there's some posters that were being like circulated on
Speaker 1: Twitter or x and Tina came up to me and said,
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that this isn't all you're doing? And
Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean? She goes there's posters
Speaker 1: around this office. That was a poster in front of
Speaker 1: the office. Yeah, and I said, I will not confirm
Speaker 1: nor deny. Did you put that post it there? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't believe you now maybe.
Speaker 2: So I thought that was very confused. I thought that
Speaker 2: was just really targeted marketing. They've got one post in
Speaker 2: smart in all of Sydney, and they've put it in
Speaker 2: front of their office, which is the correct to go.
Speaker 1: No, exactly, So I didn't do the poster delicious.
Speaker 3: It was just a happy coincident.
Speaker 1: It was in front office. It was meant to be.
Speaker 1: It was fate, that's what we'll say. Okay, So where
Speaker 1: was a meet up? It was at Kemptown Park in Newtown.
Speaker 1: Perfect location, really good location because I don't know, think
Speaker 1: about Heath Led.
Speaker 3: I feel like he led your looks would be living in.
Speaker 1: That they would, you know, I would absolutely. I said,
Speaker 1: that's whoever's organizing this is really smart, wasn't me.
Speaker 3: So what were you expecting? We're expecting a big turnout?
Speaker 1: Look. It was interesting because immediately when I saw it,
Speaker 1: I was like, as a social media producer. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is like Willy Wonker's chocolate factory, but bread and butter.
Speaker 1: I was like, there's millions of views that could come
Speaker 1: out of this. There was no way I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to go. Then I raised it to a few other
Speaker 1: people who kind of pulled back, and they said, this
Speaker 1: might be really freaky. There might be people that rock
Speaker 1: up dressed as the Joker.
Speaker 2: That's what I was expecting when I was looking at
Speaker 2: your videos. I was like, I was thinking that creepy man.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but that's freaky. Like I'm like, you can't
Speaker 1: just dress up as something that like everyone can and
Speaker 1: say that you're this dude.
Speaker 3: And I was, I mean, that's what people did for
Speaker 3: the other ones. What do you mean they dressed up
Speaker 3: like Jerem Allen White in character as the Bear.
Speaker 2: Still the Bears like his like a sexy chef, or
Speaker 2: Willy Wonka, which was the two things he were dressing
Speaker 2: up as a lot more threatening than the Joker.
Speaker 3: You know, which one I really wanted to go to
Speaker 3: that We forgot to mention which one did the dead
Speaker 3: Petel look like?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: Anyway back to so what did you see when you
Speaker 2: walked into the park.
Speaker 1: When I saw I have five minutes early, which I thought,
Speaker 1: I was like, everyone will be there by then, no one, Oh,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 2: Okay to look like notoriously, And we have to consider
Speaker 2: that Heat Ledger is very very good looking, whereas Jerry
Speaker 2: Allen White Poor Mescal.
Speaker 3: Also good looking. But I feel like that could be anyone.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I actually more than every man.
Speaker 1: Really, if I saw someone.
Speaker 3: Of the Poor Mescal in Newtown, I wouldn't give him
Speaker 3: a sake.
Speaker 2: There was like a fifty men who look like poor
Speaker 2: Mescal walking around Newtown. I don't know if I agree
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: I think they have more distinctive features that are harder
Speaker 1: to get like, harder to look like than Heath. Like
Speaker 1: he's got the shaggy cut, he's got the blonde hair,
Speaker 1: and he's tanned, and he just looks like every Australian
Speaker 1: guy that people like fantasize about. Okay, I respect that.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did it.
Speaker 2: So you got there early? There was no one there?
Speaker 2: When did no one start rocking up?
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, no one's there, but every publication in
Speaker 1: their dog So like I walked up and I said, right, well,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was I was gearing up for
Speaker 1: like the hundred meters, but in our industry.
Speaker 2: I was like, Holy, everyone's here to get the scoop.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then that very yes, I was very I had no
Speaker 1: one with me and I said, I've got to wait
Speaker 1: for my cameraman. And then they got in and started
Speaker 1: doing interviews with the organizers and I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: going in the loan. I went in alone. And then
Speaker 1: they were setting it up. They were doing like the
Speaker 1: voucher stuff, and I was interviewing one of the organizers
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh gosh, like, no one's going
Speaker 1: to rock up to this thing. It started at three.
Speaker 1: It was probably three oh three, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's going to be no one here. And then out
Speaker 1: of like the bushes. I've got the perfect video of
Speaker 1: it too. This guy rounds the corner and everyone's next
Speaker 1: snap and look at him, and one of the organizers
Speaker 1: starts yelling, there's a hey, hey, hey, And then I
Speaker 1: think people started parroting it. I think I might have
Speaker 1: Oh god, I've started going hey. Then he rounds the corner.
Speaker 1: He's confident, he comes in with the shades, he's got
Speaker 1: a vintage Chaine on. Oh, very good looking man and
Speaker 1: I grab him.
Speaker 3: I go, oh, how are you feeling like a young
Speaker 3: heath Ledger.
Speaker 1: Young heath Ledger, like sandy hair, And I interviewed him.
Speaker 1: He thought he had it in the bag. As soon
Speaker 1: as I finished interview him, I turn around again. Oh no,
Speaker 1: that from the opposite direction, and.
Speaker 3: This guy it's very like, choose your fight.
Speaker 1: Again. Then I started going, oh my god, there's two
Speaker 1: guys here already that could win it, like they absolutely
Speaker 1: could win. And then that's when the ball started rolling.
Speaker 1: There was about like fifteen people in the end. I
Speaker 1: m's good turnout, a very good turnout.
Speaker 3: Also, you have to have some certain level of ego
Speaker 3: to be like, I look like.
Speaker 1: One of the hottest men in the world. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I asked them that too. I asked everyone. I was like,
Speaker 1: were you a bit nervous about coming today? None of
Speaker 1: them said yes.
Speaker 2: I think when you're just like.
Speaker 1: Whatever, only men can do this, only men, only men.
Speaker 1: But basically probably out of the fifteen I reckon, there
Speaker 1: was five that absolutely could have won.
Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, are you happy with the winner?
Speaker 1: I was really happy with the winner. I got to
Speaker 1: meet the winner straight away. He came up and he
Speaker 1: was with his brother, and his brother was like, you know,
Speaker 1: my brother, he's really shy, but my parents have worked
Speaker 1: really hard for this, and I really just wanting to crack.
Speaker 1: He's trying to crack a few jokes. I was letting
Speaker 1: him just get away with it. I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh Heath, yeah, Mini yeah, and then he he goes.
Speaker 1: He was like, he was like, I know he's got it.
Speaker 1: I know he's got a filling in my bones. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, man, Like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of heaths around. And then he did win, and
Speaker 1: the brother was so cute. We go, what are you
Speaker 1: going to do with the fifty one dollars that you've won?
Speaker 1: And he goes, I'm going to just take my brother
Speaker 1: out for dinner.
Speaker 3: Oh the real Heath Ledger would have died.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was really cute. What an event for you.
Speaker 1: It was excellent. That wasbably around two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: people there. Wow. Yeah, And there was like we all
Speaker 1: started seeing can like is it can't take my eyes
Speaker 1: off you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: From Ten Things I Had About You, that's one of
Speaker 2: Heath Ledger's most famous movie scenes where he is the dreamiest.
Speaker 1: Yes, and that has gone very well for us on
Speaker 1: socials of all of them singing a bit of that.
Speaker 1: Oh not for a good reason.
Speaker 2: It's a hard watch. Yeah, they're they're all a bit off,
Speaker 2: so c got to be pretty. I just yeah, I
Speaker 2: love how this is taking off. But it's so funny
Speaker 2: what you're saying about there being heaps of media there
Speaker 2: but no actual look alike, because that's what happened at
Speaker 2: the Jacoberlordi contest in Melbourne, except no Jacobs appeared, like
Speaker 2: the Heaths appeared. So the organizers went there. I was
Speaker 2: reading a recap on the Guardian written by Patrick Lenton
Speaker 2: and like, no one showed up, and the organizer said Alisha,
Speaker 2: who was interviewed by the Guardian, said that she had
Speaker 2: five friends sign up and say they would come, but
Speaker 2: they didn't actually turn up. So then herself and the
Speaker 2: other organizers started combing the park nearby because they all
Speaker 2: this media had turned up apparently, and all these people
Speaker 2: had turned up, all these girls, and like Jacob Alrdi's
Speaker 2: shirt had turned up, not one Jacob. So they started
Speaker 2: combing the streets and they sound a few and then
Speaker 2: they ended up finding a guy who looked called Maxie,
Speaker 2: who's a student who looked like Jacob Alrdi did he
Speaker 2: actually though apparently he did the photo apparently he did,
Speaker 2: and he won just because he happened to be walking
Speaker 2: through the park at the time. And the organizer of
Speaker 2: the event was into you by the Guardian and she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm blowing away. It's crazy that a guy literally off
Speaker 2: the street ended up looking more like Jacob a Lordie
Speaker 2: than anyone we could have ever hoped, but no one
Speaker 2: turned up.
Speaker 1: Melbourne, mel Melbourne, Time to move to Melbourne. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's interesting over two hundred people talking out the park
Speaker 2: and like you saying it was a fun day out,
Speaker 2: because I think that's actually why people are flocking to
Speaker 2: these things. It's like, yes, it's the it's the funniness
Speaker 2: of like you could meet a death Betel, you could
Speaker 2: meet a Heath Ledger look like you could meet a
Speaker 2: Jacob a Lordie look alike. But I think also people
Speaker 2: are just especially if you're into your generation offense, who
Speaker 2: are the ones going to these things are just starved
Speaker 2: for like social instruction and places to go.
Speaker 3: I fell in love a picnic.
Speaker 1: No, I fell in love with the organizers. The organizers
Speaker 1: did it because they're comedians and they wanted to see
Speaker 1: it to promote their comedy show, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we worry. I was like, you're so funny.
Speaker 3: If you're listening, you have a very single lip.
Speaker 2: If you went to fall in love with a Heath,
Speaker 2: but you fell in love with the comedy guys organizing it.
Speaker 3: That's a perfect me cuite.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much what happened.
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, surely some people out of this
Speaker 2: have to be dating. Because out of the Timothy shallow
Speaker 2: may one that set this whole thing off, they were
Speaker 2: saying which Timothy's were single when they came out. They're like,
Speaker 2: this one's single in the crowd and go whoo. And
Speaker 2: then when when the Timothy got off stage, he would
Speaker 2: be swept into the crowd. So I feel like some
Speaker 2: people from there are dating.
Speaker 3: They should have done that for the Heath time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like all they were all nah, like would
Speaker 1: you want a date a Heath that goes like a
Speaker 1: guy that goes yeah, I look like Heath Ledger and
Speaker 1: I'm going to go and compete. Maybe I'd like.
Speaker 3: It would be quite funny. I think I'd find him
Speaker 3: very self assured and confident.
Speaker 1: Okay, well then okay, fine, and now I feel bad,
Speaker 1: so thank you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like this trend is going to
Speaker 2: keep on going, especially because you just want somewhere to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, honestly I was a bit jealous of the
Speaker 1: guys that we're seeing. I was like, gosh, that's my dream.
Speaker 1: Just one, Yeah, I would love that. Which, actually, which
Speaker 1: celeb should we do next?
Speaker 2: Which did we organize one?
Speaker 1: This one?
Speaker 3: But then you know who we should do? Jonathan Bailey,
Speaker 3: Oh Bailey, And.
Speaker 2: They have to dance and ride a horse before they
Speaker 2: can compete.
Speaker 1: I've got a horse, I know. I thought that was funny.
Speaker 2: So over the weekend a very important Australian wedding took place. Yes,
Speaker 2: now you might not think that this was something that
Speaker 2: you know, Australia would stop for, but if you looked
Speaker 2: at all the new sides and how people were getting
Speaker 2: this information, it was a very big deal. So it
Speaker 2: was the wedding of Tammy Hembro, who is I think
Speaker 2: most people know Who's.
Speaker 3: Australia is Kylie Jemmer.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh, yeah's you know, Austraia's answer to the Kardashian
Speaker 2: So but no, she're in she owns a label showns
Speaker 2: like a fitness empire. She's been a long term influencer,
Speaker 2: she wrote a book, She's done a lot of things.
Speaker 2: And Matt Sakowski, who is also a podcast or an influencer,
Speaker 2: that was on Love Island and there was a big
Speaker 2: build up around it because you know, they're both influencers,
Speaker 2: they're both public figures, they've both got a huge fan base,
Speaker 2: and it was big news when they first got together.
Speaker 2: And I had a weird front row seat to it.
Speaker 3: What do you mean you saw it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw it. It was very reminiscent. Actually, they
Speaker 2: both happened at stand events. Maybe stand events the place
Speaker 2: to see romances before they kick off.
Speaker 3: Because Sam, I'm ready for my next in fire.
Speaker 2: It's like when people were just like no reader Ora
Speaker 2: and Taiker w with tit aren't together. And then I
Speaker 2: sat behind them at a stand event and they were
Speaker 2: making out the whole time, and I was like, we're
Speaker 2: obviously together.
Speaker 1: And so I hope so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, otherwise they're just kissing, which is also cute, but no.
Speaker 2: Temmy Hambra and Matt first made their like big relationship
Speaker 2: appearance at the premiere of Court, which is a stand
Speaker 2: series in September of last year, and.
Speaker 3: I remember plans getting commission for ye.
Speaker 2: Well, I've just said their name got five times, so
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're doing okay. I remember I was at
Speaker 2: the red carpet for Court because it was like the
Speaker 2: biggest train productions. The opera house was massive, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, like I think a lot of the
Speaker 2: stars had already come past, so people were starting to
Speaker 2: sort of pack down, and like all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: all the photographers next to me started like quickly like
Speaker 2: grabbing their cameras and jumping up, and people started yelling,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, has like Nicole
Speaker 2: Kibban made a surprise appearance at the Court premiere. She
Speaker 2: wasn't on the guest list. But no, it wasn't Nicole
Speaker 2: or Russell or anyone like that. It was Tammy walking
Speaker 2: down the red carpet with Matt And that was the
Speaker 2: big first confirmation they were together.
Speaker 1: They didn't confirm it on the night. They didn't They
Speaker 1: didn't do their hand in hand.
Speaker 2: They had a few sneaky little I don't how much
Speaker 2: of it caught caught on camera, but I didn't spy.
Speaker 2: Once we were inside, some hand holding so that was.
Speaker 1: A big deal.
Speaker 2: And then they got engaged like a few months later,
Speaker 2: and that was like all pictures everywhere of that of
Speaker 2: this like tropical Island engagement. But because they had only
Speaker 2: been together for a few months, at least publicly at
Speaker 2: the time, it was big news.
Speaker 3: But I thought they broke up, Like I remember seeing
Speaker 3: the engagement and then didn't they bak because I unfollowed
Speaker 3: each other on Instagram and then they weren't spotted together.
Speaker 3: So now I'm confused.
Speaker 1: Married. Yeah, now they're married.
Speaker 2: So the build up to their relationship was marked by that, Like,
Speaker 2: these aren't people that I follow super closely, but it's
Speaker 2: one of those things where like they are just in
Speaker 2: the news cycle when yeah, something happened. So they unfollowed
Speaker 2: and followed each other multiple times leading up.
Speaker 1: To the wedding. Okay, but as far as we know,
Speaker 1: never called off the engagement.
Speaker 3: See, this is how I act with my situationship. So
Speaker 3: you wouldn't want to act like this with my fiance.
Speaker 1: It's quite a public statement to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, because she has over seventeen million followers.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they wouldn't know people would be following closely,
Speaker 2: So I get the feeling maybe they would just I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know these people at all. This is a
Speaker 2: wild guess that they were just maybe having little TIFFs
Speaker 2: as most people do in the lid up to their wedding.
Speaker 2: And then instead of just having a little tiff and
Speaker 2: going like for a drive or going into the other
Speaker 2: room and like looking at TikTok for an hour, you
Speaker 2: don't follow each other.
Speaker 3: It's a new generations version of the silent treatment.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But then every time they did that, multiple news articles
Speaker 2: chronicling it got to the stage where someone was just
Speaker 2: like if it's like any day of the week, it's
Speaker 2: like a follow or an unfollow, Like it was just
Speaker 2: swinging back and forth in the lead up to it.
Speaker 2: And then there were all these rumors that Matt had
Speaker 2: like been seen with other women in the lead up
Speaker 2: to the wedding, and then he came out and said,
Speaker 2: I wasn't cheating on her. I was just with I
Speaker 2: was on like a PR trip kind of like you're
Speaker 2: going to Singapore, but this is with the famous people.
Speaker 2: He was on a PR trip and the women he
Speaker 2: was with with the same management, so they were.
Speaker 1: On like a rest.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm allowed to be.
Speaker 2: And there was also footage that was taken of her
Speaker 2: her bachelorette party crying and it looked like that they
Speaker 2: had had a fight. But then she came out afterwards.
Speaker 2: This is what happened.
Speaker 3: That's when you know it's a good bachelorette party. Someone
Speaker 3: I was gonna cry.
Speaker 2: And it's probably the bride. She's emotional. There's a lot happening.
Speaker 2: And then she came in and said that she wasn't
Speaker 2: crying over Matt, that like ended the night together. So
Speaker 2: like I believe that, yeah, being back and forth. So anyway,
Speaker 2: photos of their wedding were shared by the Daily Mail,
Speaker 2: like I think while the ceremony was still going on,
Speaker 2: and they feel dirty.
Speaker 3: But I did perv on these photos. Oh you did
Speaker 3: have a little look, yes, because I was quite interested
Speaker 3: in how the guests were seated.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what everyone is saying. I didn't pick
Speaker 2: that up at first. I mean I looked at it
Speaker 2: and thought that's a bit odd.
Speaker 1: So then I'm moved on.
Speaker 2: But then I saw everyone saying, like, the biggest takeaway
Speaker 2: is how these people are seating, So why did you
Speaker 2: think it was?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: So, firstly, it's a paparazzi shot we shouldn't be indulging
Speaker 3: in this, And it looks like they.
Speaker 2: Had drone cameras all like old school they would have
Speaker 2: had helicopters, but it looks like they just had drones
Speaker 2: and like I said, they were releasing them as I
Speaker 2: think the wedding was still going on.
Speaker 3: Drones are still loud. Oh, like that would have interrupted anyway.
Speaker 3: So the seating, it was like in Byron Bay, this
Speaker 3: massive house mansion, I think it was. I didn't see
Speaker 3: how she walked down the aisle, but I was really
Speaker 3: intrigued to find out how because there's a massive pool
Speaker 3: in the middle, and then there's guests seated on either
Speaker 3: side of the pool, and then at the head of
Speaker 3: the pool was like Tammy and mad doing the ceremony.
Speaker 3: But the weird thing was is that the guests were
Speaker 3: facing each other like as if it was a runway,
Speaker 3: as the pool was a runway, and the guests were
Speaker 3: facing the pool, so they all had to kind of
Speaker 3: turn their bodies to face the front to look at Tammy.
Speaker 3: And there was also these massive hedges between the guests
Speaker 3: and Tammy. So I'm not sure the people at the
Speaker 3: front of the seat could see them because of the
Speaker 3: massive hedge in between.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like, I know, it's a fancy wedding, but
Speaker 2: it almost felt like it was done for the aerial shots. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it looked amazing from above, but when you look closer,
Speaker 2: it was Logistics were questionable and this is why. Obviously
Speaker 2: fancy wedding. But unless she walked on water, she couldn't
Speaker 2: have walked, which is very crazy.
Speaker 3: Do you think she could have walked on I don't know.
Speaker 2: She's a very successful smart Maybe she figured that out
Speaker 2: because she That means she couldn't have walked down the
Speaker 2: aisle a.
Speaker 3: Side like either walk along the side.
Speaker 1: Oh the way was she going? I love how this
Speaker 1: is what we stuck. I do think she came from
Speaker 1: the front. Actually there wasn't that.
Speaker 2: I think that's becoming a really big trend, especially with
Speaker 2: celebrity weddings, of coming from the front and walking towards
Speaker 2: the guest and the groom. That's what Alex Cooper from
Speaker 2: Call Her Daddy did. Act. She just did no, no, no, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she came from the front, so she walked.
Speaker 3: You know what she could have done like had a
Speaker 3: stage and then appeared from underground.
Speaker 1: Like Taylor Swift. That would have been amazing.
Speaker 3: I think that's what she think.
Speaker 1: She came out on right.
Speaker 2: Everything's possible with these people so much money, and it
Speaker 2: just looked incredible.
Speaker 1: I just if you were at the wedding.
Speaker 2: We don't want to know any other personal details. It's
Speaker 2: not our business. If someone could just give us an
Speaker 2: answer to the logistical question of how that bride got
Speaker 2: to the altar, because she had the runners were.
Speaker 3: A flower girl was a page board, so they also
Speaker 3: would have had to appear somehow.
Speaker 2: Yes, So she's got three kids and I think they
Speaker 2: were in the wedding, and then she had her sisters
Speaker 2: who were also like famous influences, and they were.
Speaker 3: Standing on the grass with the heels, and the men
Speaker 3: were standing on concrete.
Speaker 2: Maybe they all got lowered down and helicopters. I mean,
Speaker 2: it did look beautiful. She had like almost like a
Speaker 2: pinkish dress on, like it was very wicked too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was very wicked pressed to it, and then the
Speaker 2: bride'smaids were in black and it was all very sexy.
Speaker 2: What I thought was interesting is like a documentary or
Speaker 2: a TV special or something on that on that wedding,
Speaker 2: on the build up to it would just go absolutely nuts.
Speaker 2: And when you were any Kardashian's wedding, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: we actually needed. We needed like a wedding special. And
Speaker 2: it's interesting that we keep kind of referring to the
Speaker 2: Kardashians because ten me Hember out and she hates this
Speaker 2: being brought up.
Speaker 1: But she's not listening to this, so it's fine.
Speaker 2: But she first got very famous internationallybe she was carried
Speaker 2: out of Kaylie Jenner's party. That's how I knew her,
Speaker 2: and she writes about that in her book, and she
Speaker 2: did a lot of interviews about it. Actually she didn't
Speaker 2: into your No Filter. We'll link in them if you
Speaker 2: want to listen to that. But then she and her
Speaker 2: sisters did start filming a reality TV show that was
Speaker 2: meant to be Australia's answers to Keeping Up the Kadashians
Speaker 2: years ago, and there's conflicting reports of like whether it
Speaker 2: got canceled on the network side orhere they couldn't even
Speaker 2: find a distributor or I think the girls have said
Speaker 2: over the years that they didn't want to do it,
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of conflicting reports. But I just
Speaker 2: think we really need that show.
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my god, I would watch that. So one
Speaker 3: of their sisters actually followed me on Instagram once. Oh
Speaker 3: really yeah, when I was in my girl boss era,
Speaker 3: and then when I started doing low brow stuff she unfollowed.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fair, she's got tasting.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Congrats to Tammy and mad and yes, please get in
Speaker 2: touch with this and just let us know how you
Speaker 2: walk down that aisle.
Speaker 3: Please, So, if you have any form of social media,
Speaker 3: you would I've seen a very specific press tool has
Speaker 3: been infiltrating your feeds. So I am clearly talking about
Speaker 3: the press interviews that the Wicked cast are still doing.
Speaker 3: And I say still doing because we were lucky. We
Speaker 3: were one of the first they had their worldwide premier.
Speaker 3: We were the first stop of the press te You
Speaker 3: were like, probably the top ten interviews do you get
Speaker 3: with them? And I remember when we were dissecting your
Speaker 3: interview with them, and you were saying that it's such
Speaker 3: a deep movie, right, such an emotionally driven movie about
Speaker 3: female friendship connection not being able to fit in. So
Speaker 3: all of the interviews naturally were quite deep and emotional,
Speaker 3: and you were saying how it's hard when you're doing
Speaker 3: interviews back to back back to back, to constantly be
Speaker 3: in that emotional state. However, they haven't caught a break,
Speaker 3: because no.
Speaker 1: They really haven't, because they're still.
Speaker 3: Doing interviews in the US, and I think the US
Speaker 3: press tool in particular is where we're starting to get
Speaker 3: the memifications of the Wicked press in general. So these interviews,
Speaker 3: they are all so so deep, and I think that's
Speaker 3: mainly because a lot of the interviewers are also massive
Speaker 3: fans of Wicked, kind of like you like, to the
Speaker 3: point where it's like their life, Like they're like, I'm
Speaker 3: so happy the movie did the musical justice. I think
Speaker 3: it's fair to say that everyone's been loving this movie
Speaker 3: like we did, and everyone just wants that deep emotional
Speaker 3: interview with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Ribo, to the point
Speaker 3: where I think that no matter what the question is
Speaker 3: asked to them, their answer is just immediately cry.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because I think what people aren't seeing, what
Speaker 2: you're saying from some of this press too, it is
Speaker 2: what's happening to the journalists before they walk into the room.
Speaker 2: So it's become this huge parody and it is funny
Speaker 2: and it's into it's a big cultural moment of Ariano
Speaker 2: and Cynthia being like very breathless and crying and very
Speaker 2: emotional no matter what the question is. And I think
Speaker 2: the flip side of that, what you're not seeing is
Speaker 2: what's happening in the room outside.
Speaker 1: And I wrote ah recap of.
Speaker 2: This because I felt like I had to capture the
Speaker 2: moment is because I've never seen anything like it before.
Speaker 2: So as I was waiting to go in, and I
Speaker 2: was waiting with all the journalists in Australia who were
Speaker 2: doing the interviews with the Wicked cast, Plus they had
Speaker 2: flown in international press from all of these different countries,
Speaker 2: so pretty much everyone on this side of the world
Speaker 2: was doing the interviews in that room, and people were
Speaker 2: crying in the hallways before they went in, and then
Speaker 2: people were coming out sobbing, and so that's all Arianna
Speaker 2: and the Cynthia scene is everyone crying, everyone having an
Speaker 2: emotional breakdown. And usually when you see people crying at junkets,
Speaker 2: it's afterwards because the celeb's been really mean to them,
Speaker 2: and it was like a crying contagion, like one's everyone
Speaker 2: because like I wasn't planning to cry in there, obviously
Speaker 2: cried during the movie because and I thought I was
Speaker 2: having a special experience in such a die hard, wicked fan.
Speaker 2: I got there and I was like, no, we're all
Speaker 2: having the same experience. And then I even felt like
Speaker 2: a few tears pricking my eyes as I was going
Speaker 2: in because watching everyone else cry, and then I thought
Speaker 2: about what a big moment was for me. I didn't
Speaker 2: cry in the entire mo and then afterwards I felt
Speaker 2: like a failure because I didn't cry. I was like,
Speaker 2: maybe I should have because everyone but it's like a
Speaker 2: crying contagion that you're seeing, and I think we're just
Speaker 2: all passing it to each other. And then they're just
Speaker 2: seeing that come at them every day, which is why
Speaker 2: they're being so emotional, So that's what's happening. And those
Speaker 2: are also the interviews that are being shared on social media,
Speaker 2: and that are like picking up traction in the algorithm,
Speaker 2: So like there's a bunch of normal interviews they've done,
Speaker 2: but you're only seeing the over the top ones because
Speaker 2: they're the ones that the algorithm is favoring at the moment.
Speaker 2: So it's also giving this illusion they're crying all the time.
Speaker 2: They're probably not, because like towards the end, of the day.
Speaker 2: They weren't crying on my press stage.
Speaker 1: Everyone was going to.
Speaker 2: Be like I love Wicked and they're like thanks, because
Speaker 2: they were like, I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 1: Over it.
Speaker 3: That's the thing, though, because I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people have seen the interviews where they're emotional and stuff,
Speaker 3: and this includes the interviewers to the point where I've
Speaker 3: noticed and I've watched a lot of interviews on this
Speaker 3: press tool where the interviewers aren't necessarily asking them questions,
Speaker 3: but I'm all making statements waiting for them to react
Speaker 3: because they want that emotional yeah. And I'm like their actors,
Speaker 3: like your job is to ask the questions and they're
Speaker 3: meant to answer. So there's this one interview. I'm sure
Speaker 3: you would have seen it. It's gone absolutely viral. So
Speaker 3: the interview's name is Tracy E. Gilchrist, and she talks
Speaker 3: about the song Defying Gravity, which is the last song
Speaker 3: of this film, and then it goes into it and
Speaker 3: the biggest song from the musical overall. It's like the
Speaker 3: song that even if you don't know the musical, you
Speaker 3: note this song. And she says people are taking the
Speaker 3: lyrics of defining Gravity and are really holding space with that?
Speaker 2: Can I say this was like a cold water being
Speaker 2: thrown over me when I saw this interview, it was
Speaker 2: like a slap across the face because it like almost
Speaker 2: knocked me out of how crazy I have been over
Speaker 2: this wicked press tour as well, because when I first
Speaker 2: saw that, I took that with a lot of sincerity
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, I am holding space with
Speaker 2: the lyrics of defining gravity. And I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: what what's happened.
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone knew what it meant because she said.
Speaker 2: That, but I do somehow in a spiritual level, know
Speaker 2: what she means. But she's taken what every journalist has done,
Speaker 2: and she just crossed the line a little bit too
Speaker 2: far into like woo territory, and as a society we snapped.
Speaker 3: Back holding space with that. I think. So what she did,
Speaker 3: she said, they're really holding space with that. And I
Speaker 3: just want you to know this. I've seen this week
Speaker 3: people are taking the lyrics of defying gravity and really
Speaker 3: holding space with that and feeling power in that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that that was happening. I've seen it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really powerful.
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted. Yeah, I didn't know that was happening.
Speaker 3: It's not a question, right, So Cynthia and Harri are
Speaker 3: kind of looking at her, and then you can see
Speaker 3: in Cynthia's head like something switches and she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: she wants me to be emotional.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And she just kind of.
Speaker 3: Puts her hand on her chest and she's like, I
Speaker 3: didn't know this, what's happening. And then she's like, that's
Speaker 3: really powerful.
Speaker 2: That's what I want because you could take that answer
Speaker 2: and put that tinely every Wicked question. She's answered like,
Speaker 2: that's really.
Speaker 3: Her hands on her thing, and Irina grabbed her finger.
Speaker 2: The finger grab which has become its own moment in
Speaker 2: pop culture. So for the whole press tours, Cynthia River
Speaker 2: has had these incredible long, embellish nails, and because she
Speaker 2: speaks with her hands so much, and like I did
Speaker 2: shake her hands with that touch, the nails they're very
Speaker 2: nice because she speaks to the hands so much. They've
Speaker 2: been a real center point of all her interviews and
Speaker 2: each one's like an homage to like different parts of
Speaker 2: Wicked and stuff. Like the storytelling layering here is very intense.
Speaker 2: So I love that at the end of the breast tour,
Speaker 2: The nail got its own moment because Arione Grande, who's
Speaker 2: got a very small hand, is like they hold hands
Speaker 2: in every interview, and like they hug in every interview,
Speaker 2: and they like lie on each other like they're very emotional.
Speaker 2: And I think she reached over to grab Cynthia's hand
Speaker 2: and couldn't get a whole hand, but she did get
Speaker 2: one finger. Instead of pulling a hand back, she just
Speaker 2: really committed to holding onto that finger.
Speaker 3: And I think that whole like that interview was just
Speaker 3: bizarre because she was like that's so powerful, and like
Speaker 3: she kind of looks at Ari to make sure she's
Speaker 3: conveying the right emotion, and Ari's looking at her like yeah,
Speaker 3: and just holding the finger.
Speaker 1: Like let's just say, don't even there at this stage
Speaker 1: of the press to it.
Speaker 2: They've done so many interviews that they don't even have
Speaker 2: to say really anything anymore. Like an interview just say
Speaker 2: to them something emotional and they go, yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: we want.
Speaker 3: And you know that interviewer wants tears. She wants tears,
Speaker 3: She's gonna go home with tears. So she's just sitting
Speaker 3: there like, yeah, I just thought you guys should know,
Speaker 3: like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking for holding space for this is it also
Speaker 2: that I do understand what she means? So because the
Speaker 2: lyrics I hate myself, I'm glad.
Speaker 3: You understand what it means, because the internet absolutely does not.
Speaker 1: Because the lyrics are define gravity.
Speaker 2: Are like a power ballad for like people who don't
Speaker 2: fit in or people who are going to go their
Speaker 2: own way. I'm flying solately time for lyrics.
Speaker 1: We've known the lyrics for years. This is not a
Speaker 1: question with them space I don't know. I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit on her side.
Speaker 3: I'm on Twitter side because these memes made me a lowl.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to read you out some of my
Speaker 3: favorite After this interview went well, someone said, I'm holding
Speaker 3: space for the video about holding space for the defying
Speaker 3: gravity lyrics. I don't understand what holding space means or
Speaker 3: why it's so powerful, but I'm holding space for the
Speaker 3: potential to understand the space I'm holding. Someone said, I
Speaker 3: watched this like thirty times and I still can't understand
Speaker 3: a single thing that's going on here. And then my favorite,
Speaker 3: thanks for your email. I'm currently out of office to
Speaker 3: take the lyrics of defying gravity and really holding space
Speaker 3: with that. I'll go back to you as soon as
Speaker 3: i'm able. Best recards so good.
Speaker 2: The best way I saw was taking that viral Kim
Speaker 2: Kardashian quote about no one wants to work anymore, and
Speaker 2: they put her face across it, and it's like, no
Speaker 2: one wants to hold space for the lyrics of defying
Speaker 2: gravity anymore. Get up off your ass and hold space
Speaker 2: for the lyrics of defying gravity.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: I I'm like it was just so bizarre. But I
Speaker 3: think if this was the most viral thing that came
Speaker 3: out of this press too, it's probably a very successful.
Speaker 2: There's been so many And the thing is that the
Speaker 2: press tour has worked like they knew what they were doing.
Speaker 2: I honestly do believe they're very close. But I think
Speaker 2: that this whole press tour, everything from the outfits to
Speaker 2: how they speak, how they interact, how they look, how
Speaker 2: they enter an event together, has all been set up
Speaker 2: for this moment and it's worked because Wicked has had
Speaker 2: like a record opening box office weekend.
Speaker 1: And yes, they were fans of the musical.
Speaker 2: But there's heaps of other people who people just want
Speaker 2: this sense of occasion with a movie, like it's almost
Speaker 2: like they're getting people. This is what Blake Lively wanted for.
Speaker 2: It ends with us, but we couldn't really get on
Speaker 2: board because of the movie subject matter. But this is
Speaker 2: the next step of Barbie is like all the photos
Speaker 2: I've seen of people going, it's like people are going
Speaker 2: with their friends, they're dressing in the colors, they're filming
Speaker 2: their reactions before and afterwards, like they're really getting on
Speaker 2: board with that. And a lot of that has to
Speaker 2: do with the hype of the pressure of people wanting
Speaker 2: to have that sense of occasion and like lean into
Speaker 2: this online silliness.
Speaker 3: So I think it's safe to say that we're holding space.
Speaker 1: We're holding space. So the Wicked Press took Yes.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
Speaker 3: If you missed Friday's episode, Whoa, whoa, whoa, take a
Speaker 3: step back, because we did a brutally honest review of
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Speaker 3: aka the movie with sexy hot men who kill each other.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to build it up too much,
Speaker 2: but I do believe this has been the feedback from people.
Speaker 2: Our funniest episode yet Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: What I wanted. I didn't practice my poor mescal voice
Speaker 3: for no reason.
Speaker 1: That has been haunting my dreams. It's so intense.
Speaker 3: We will put a link to that episode in the
Speaker 3: show notes, and we will be back here in your
Speaker 3: podcast feed at three pm tomorrow. Bye bye