WEBVTT - An Infamous Influencer Wedding & This Celeb Lookalike Event Didn't Go To Plan

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<v Speaker 3>From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop

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<v Speaker 2>I'm m Verna and I'm Laura Brodnick, and you're back

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<v Speaker 2>from your jet study.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so happy to be back. I mean, I love

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<v Speaker 3>you and ash I love me more.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I know that's literally your brand.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm really really happy to be back. I was

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<v Speaker 3>lucky enough to spend a week overseas at Singapore. It

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<v Speaker 3>was actually my first international trip since COVID, so in

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<v Speaker 3>four years. Really, Yeah, isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're on a for meals so you get to

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<v Speaker 2>go write a travel writing article, which is so far good.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did want to talk about quickly. This is

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<v Speaker 3>not part of the episode, and I haven't told you.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't told you what I'm okay. I usually raw

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<v Speaker 3>dog flights yet serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I sit there, even an international flight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I sit there and watch the flight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my worst night, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I decided to get some movies under my belt.

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<v Speaker 3>So there are a few movies I haven't seen. Couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>find them on streaming, so I wanted to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>check them off my list. So two movies I've watched

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<v Speaker 3>back to back was June two. That's a tough one

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<v Speaker 3>for a plane and Furiosa. Oh no, that's better for

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<v Speaker 3>a plane. I am convinced they are the same movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything I think about when I think about these two movies,

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<v Speaker 3>I've merged into one.

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<v Speaker 2>So usually probably exhausted and you're watching them half asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so similar.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like people fighting in a desert, fighting over water.

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<v Speaker 3>There are like pale bald people who sacrifice their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>They are unofficially part of the same kinematic universe.

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<v Speaker 3>The sand storms like it's the same movie. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you haven't watched either of them, just watch one.

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<v Speaker 2>A good double feature and you'll get the or just

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<v Speaker 2>watch one you'll get the overall plot of one.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, On the show today, Tammy Hembro got married this weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>and we have some logistical questions plus the press tour

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<v Speaker 3>that we're holding space for the first.

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<v Speaker 2>First, if you cast your mind back to October, a

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<v Speaker 2>Timothy Chalamey lookalike contest took place and it really unleashed

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<v Speaker 2>hell upon Earth because since then we've had a poor

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<v Speaker 2>mescal look.

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<v Speaker 1>Like competition doubles. I was there for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you would have fallen over for that. Harry

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<v Speaker 2>Styles looked like competition in London, and then a Jeremy

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<v Speaker 2>Allen White look like competition in Chicago where the prize

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<v Speaker 2>there was only fifty dollars and some cigarettes. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of men expensive. They are expensive in this economy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so about a month later, because Australia always behind

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<v Speaker 2>the times, always just a little off the trends, about

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<v Speaker 2>a month later, this trend has come to our shores

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<v Speaker 2>and this weekend we had to look like competitions here

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first one was a heath Ledger looked like

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<v Speaker 2>competition in Sydney, and you and I were busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Gals.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't go, but we know someone who did and

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<v Speaker 2>we have brought her on the pod. We forced her

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<v Speaker 2>into the pod. It's Mma MIA's social media producer Olivia James.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi name, Hello Live. So Olivia James does all of

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<v Speaker 2>our red carpet reporting, so you might her from her

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<v Speaker 2>break up.

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<v Speaker 1>Content from the logis asking celebrities how to heal a.

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<v Speaker 2>Broken heart, asking Chris Hemsworth to give you a rental application.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was one of the recommendations. Yeah, and it worked.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically asked celebrities for life advice and then dislocating your

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<v Speaker 3>shoulder just after interviewing Paul mescal at the Gladiator Too premiere.

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<v Speaker 1>Not on purpose, though, I would like to say that

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<v Speaker 1>it was not on purpose. But we saw the video,

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<v Speaker 1>we know, yeah, we heard it.

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<v Speaker 2>So this weekend, you put your life on the line

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<v Speaker 2>by going to a heath Ledger look like competition. So well,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know how did you know this was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did that information come from?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it on can we Drop Miss Double Bay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>her Instagram. So I saw it on her Instagram story

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<v Speaker 1>and then I took it to our upper dogshad of content,

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<v Speaker 1>head of content. I called them the big dogs whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, look, this is going down and she

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<v Speaker 1>went great, and I was a poster somewhere. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>then this is an interesting room a right. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>then there's some posters that were being like circulated on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter or x and Tina came up to me and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not convinced that this isn't all you're doing? And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what do you mean? She goes there's posters

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<v Speaker 1>around this office. That was a poster in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the office. Yeah, and I said, I will not confirm

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<v Speaker 1>nor deny. Did you put that post it there? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe you now maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought that was very confused. I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was just really targeted marketing. They've got one post in

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<v Speaker 2>smart in all of Sydney, and they've put it in

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<v Speaker 2>front of their office, which is the correct to go.

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<v Speaker 1>No, exactly, So I didn't do the poster delicious.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just a happy coincident.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in front office. It was meant to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fate, that's what we'll say. Okay, So where

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<v Speaker 1>was a meet up? It was at Kemptown Park in Newtown.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect location, really good location because I don't know, think

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<v Speaker 1>about Heath Led.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like he led your looks would be living in.

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<v Speaker 1>That they would, you know, I would absolutely. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's whoever's organizing this is really smart, wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 3>So what were you expecting? We're expecting a big turnout?

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<v Speaker 1>Look. It was interesting because immediately when I saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, as a social media producer. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like Willy Wonker's chocolate factory, but bread and butter.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, there's millions of views that could come

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<v Speaker 1>out of this. There was no way I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Then I raised it to a few other

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<v Speaker 1>people who kind of pulled back, and they said, this

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<v Speaker 1>might be really freaky. There might be people that rock

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<v Speaker 1>up dressed as the Joker.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was expecting when I was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>your videos. I was like, I was thinking that creepy man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but that's freaky. Like I'm like, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>just dress up as something that like everyone can and

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<v Speaker 1>say that you're this dude.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was, I mean, that's what people did for

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<v Speaker 3>the other ones. What do you mean they dressed up

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<v Speaker 3>like Jerem Allen White in character as the Bear.

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<v Speaker 2>Still the Bears like his like a sexy chef, or

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<v Speaker 2>Willy Wonka, which was the two things he were dressing

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<v Speaker 2>up as a lot more threatening than the Joker.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, which one I really wanted to go to

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<v Speaker 3>that We forgot to mention which one did the dead

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<v Speaker 3>Petel look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway back to so what did you see when you

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<v Speaker 2>walked into the park.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw I have five minutes early, which I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, everyone will be there by then, no one, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay to look like notoriously, And we have to consider

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<v Speaker 2>that Heat Ledger is very very good looking, whereas Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>Allen White Poor Mescal.

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<v Speaker 3>Also good looking. But I feel like that could be anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I actually more than every man.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, if I saw someone.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the Poor Mescal in Newtown, I wouldn't give him

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<v Speaker 3>a sake.

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<v Speaker 2>There was like a fifty men who look like poor

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<v Speaker 2>Mescal walking around Newtown. I don't know if I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have more distinctive features that are harder

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<v Speaker 1>to get like, harder to look like than Heath. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the shaggy cut, he's got the blonde hair,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's tanned, and he just looks like every Australian

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<v Speaker 1>guy that people like fantasize about. Okay, I respect that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got there early? There was no one there?

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<v Speaker 2>When did no one start rocking up?

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, yeah, no one's there, but every publication in

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<v Speaker 1>their dog So like I walked up and I said, right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was I was gearing up for

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<v Speaker 1>like the hundred meters, but in our industry.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Holy, everyone's here to get the scoop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that very yes, I was very I had no

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<v Speaker 1>one with me and I said, I've got to wait

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<v Speaker 1>for my cameraman. And then they got in and started

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<v Speaker 1>doing interviews with the organizers and I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going in the loan. I went in alone. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they were setting it up. They were doing like the

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<v Speaker 1>voucher stuff, and I was interviewing one of the organizers

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh gosh, like, no one's going

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<v Speaker 1>to rock up to this thing. It started at three.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably three oh three, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be no one here. And then out

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<v Speaker 1>of like the bushes. I've got the perfect video of

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<v Speaker 1>it too. This guy rounds the corner and everyone's next

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<v Speaker 1>snap and look at him, and one of the organizers

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<v Speaker 1>starts yelling, there's a hey, hey, hey, And then I

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<v Speaker 1>think people started parroting it. I think I might have

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I've started going hey. Then he rounds the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>He's confident, he comes in with the shades, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a vintage Chaine on. Oh, very good looking man and

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<v Speaker 1>I grab him.

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<v Speaker 3>I go, oh, how are you feeling like a young

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<v Speaker 3>heath Ledger.

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<v Speaker 1>Young heath Ledger, like sandy hair, And I interviewed him.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought he had it in the bag. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I finished interview him, I turn around again. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>that from the opposite direction, and.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy it's very like, choose your fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Again. Then I started going, oh my god, there's two

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<v Speaker 1>guys here already that could win it, like they absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>could win. And then that's when the ball started rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>There was about like fifteen people in the end. I

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<v Speaker 1>m's good turnout, a very good turnout.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, you have to have some certain level of ego

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<v Speaker 3>to be like, I look like.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the hottest men in the world. Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked them that too. I asked everyone. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>were you a bit nervous about coming today? None of

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<v Speaker 1>them said yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you're just like.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, only men can do this, only men, only men.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically probably out of the fifteen I reckon, there

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<v Speaker 1>was five that absolutely could have won.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Wow, are you happy with the winner?

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<v Speaker 1>I was really happy with the winner. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>meet the winner straight away. He came up and he

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<v Speaker 1>was with his brother, and his brother was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother, he's really shy, but my parents have worked

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<v Speaker 1>really hard for this, and I really just wanting to crack.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to crack a few jokes. I was letting

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<v Speaker 1>him just get away with it. I was like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh Heath, yeah, Mini yeah, and then he he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, he was like, I know he's got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's got a filling in my bones. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know, man, Like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of heaths around. And then he did win, and

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<v Speaker 1>the brother was so cute. We go, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to do with the fifty one dollars that you've won?

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, I'm going to just take my brother

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<v Speaker 1>out for dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the real Heath Ledger would have died.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That was really cute. What an event for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was excellent. That wasbably around two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>people there. Wow. Yeah, And there was like we all

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<v Speaker 1>started seeing can like is it can't take my eyes

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<v Speaker 1>off you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>From Ten Things I Had About You, that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>Heath Ledger's most famous movie scenes where he is the dreamiest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and that has gone very well for us on

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<v Speaker 1>socials of all of them singing a bit of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh not for a good reason.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a hard watch. Yeah, they're they're all a bit off,

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<v Speaker 2>so c got to be pretty. I just yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>love how this is taking off. But it's so funny

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying about there being heaps of media there

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<v Speaker 2>but no actual look alike, because that's what happened at

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<v Speaker 2>the Jacoberlordi contest in Melbourne, except no Jacobs appeared, like

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<v Speaker 2>the Heaths appeared. So the organizers went there. I was

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<v Speaker 2>reading a recap on the Guardian written by Patrick Lenton

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<v Speaker 2>and like, no one showed up, and the organizer said Alisha,

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<v Speaker 2>who was interviewed by the Guardian, said that she had

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<v Speaker 2>five friends sign up and say they would come, but

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't actually turn up. So then herself and the

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<v Speaker 2>other organizers started combing the park nearby because they all

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<v Speaker 2>this media had turned up apparently, and all these people

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<v Speaker 2>had turned up, all these girls, and like Jacob Alrdi's

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<v Speaker 2>shirt had turned up, not one Jacob. So they started

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<v Speaker 2>combing the streets and they sound a few and then

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<v Speaker 2>they ended up finding a guy who looked called Maxie,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a student who looked like Jacob Alrdi did he

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<v Speaker 2>actually though apparently he did the photo apparently he did,

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<v Speaker 2>and he won just because he happened to be walking

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<v Speaker 2>through the park at the time. And the organizer of

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<v Speaker 2>the event was into you by the Guardian and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm blowing away. It's crazy that a guy literally off

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<v Speaker 2>the street ended up looking more like Jacob a Lordie

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<v Speaker 2>than anyone we could have ever hoped, but no one

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<v Speaker 2>turned up.

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne, mel Melbourne, Time to move to Melbourne. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting over two hundred people talking out the park

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<v Speaker 2>and like you saying it was a fun day out,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's actually why people are flocking to

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<v Speaker 2>these things. It's like, yes, it's the it's the funniness

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<v Speaker 2>of like you could meet a death Betel, you could

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<v Speaker 2>meet a Heath Ledger look like you could meet a

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob a Lordie look alike. But I think also people

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<v Speaker 2>are just especially if you're into your generation offense, who

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<v Speaker 2>are the ones going to these things are just starved

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<v Speaker 2>for like social instruction and places to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I fell in love a picnic.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I fell in love with the organizers. The organizers

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<v Speaker 1>did it because they're comedians and they wanted to see

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<v Speaker 1>it to promote their comedy show, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we worry. I was like, you're so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're listening, you have a very single lip.

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<v Speaker 2>If you went to fall in love with a Heath,

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<v Speaker 2>but you fell in love with the comedy guys organizing it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a perfect me cuite.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Wow, surely some people out of this

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<v Speaker 2>have to be dating. Because out of the Timothy shallow

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<v Speaker 2>may one that set this whole thing off, they were

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<v Speaker 2>saying which Timothy's were single when they came out. They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>this one's single in the crowd and go whoo. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when when the Timothy got off stage, he would

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<v Speaker 2>be swept into the crowd. So I feel like some

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<v Speaker 2>people from there are dating.

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<v Speaker 3>They should have done that for the Heath time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like all they were all nah, like would

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<v Speaker 1>you want a date a Heath that goes like a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that goes yeah, I look like Heath Ledger and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go and compete. Maybe I'd like.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be quite funny. I think I'd find him

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<v Speaker 3>very self assured and confident.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well then okay, fine, and now I feel bad,

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<v Speaker 1>so thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel like this trend is going to

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<v Speaker 2>keep on going, especially because you just want somewhere to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, honestly I was a bit jealous of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that we're seeing. I was like, gosh, that's my dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Just one, Yeah, I would love that. Which, actually, which

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<v Speaker 1>celeb should we do next?

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<v Speaker 2>Which did we organize one?

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<v Speaker 1>This one?

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<v Speaker 3>But then you know who we should do? Jonathan Bailey,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Bailey, And.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to dance and ride a horse before they

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<v Speaker 2>can compete.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a horse, I know. I thought that was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So over the weekend a very important Australian wedding took place. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>now you might not think that this was something that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Australia would stop for, but if you looked

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<v Speaker 2>at all the new sides and how people were getting

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<v Speaker 2>this information, it was a very big deal. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was the wedding of Tammy Hembro, who is I think

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<v Speaker 2>most people know Who's.

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<v Speaker 3>Australia is Kylie Jemmer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh, yeah's you know, Austraia's answer to the Kardashian

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<v Speaker 2>So but no, she're in she owns a label showns

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<v Speaker 2>like a fitness empire. She's been a long term influencer,

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<v Speaker 2>she wrote a book, She's done a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>And Matt Sakowski, who is also a podcast or an influencer,

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<v Speaker 2>that was on Love Island and there was a big

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<v Speaker 2>build up around it because you know, they're both influencers,

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<v Speaker 2>they're both public figures, they've both got a huge fan base,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was big news when they first got together.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had a weird front row seat to it.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean you saw it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I saw it. It was very reminiscent. Actually, they

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<v Speaker 2>both happened at stand events. Maybe stand events the place

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<v Speaker 2>to see romances before they kick off.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Sam, I'm ready for my next in fire.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when people were just like no reader Ora

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<v Speaker 2>and Taiker w with tit aren't together. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>sat behind them at a stand event and they were

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<v Speaker 2>making out the whole time, and I was like, we're

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<v Speaker 2>obviously together.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I hope so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, otherwise they're just kissing, which is also cute, but no.

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<v Speaker 2>Temmy Hambra and Matt first made their like big relationship

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<v Speaker 2>appearance at the premiere of Court, which is a stand

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<v Speaker 2>series in September of last year, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember plans getting commission for ye.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've just said their name got five times, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they're doing okay. I remember I was at

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<v Speaker 2>the red carpet for Court because it was like the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest train productions. The opera house was massive, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, like I think a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>stars had already come past, so people were starting to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of pack down, and like all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>all the photographers next to me started like quickly like

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<v Speaker 2>grabbing their cameras and jumping up, and people started yelling,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh my god, has like Nicole

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<v Speaker 2>Kibban made a surprise appearance at the Court premiere. She

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't on the guest list. But no, it wasn't Nicole

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<v Speaker 2>or Russell or anyone like that. It was Tammy walking

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<v Speaker 2>down the red carpet with Matt And that was the

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<v Speaker 2>big first confirmation they were together.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't confirm it on the night. They didn't They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do their hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a few sneaky little I don't how much

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<v Speaker 2>of it caught caught on camera, but I didn't spy.

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<v Speaker 2>Once we were inside, some hand holding so that was.

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<v Speaker 1>A big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they got engaged like a few months later,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was like all pictures everywhere of that of

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<v Speaker 2>this like tropical Island engagement. But because they had only

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<v Speaker 2>been together for a few months, at least publicly at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, it was big news.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought they broke up, Like I remember seeing

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<v Speaker 3>the engagement and then didn't they bak because I unfollowed

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<v Speaker 3>each other on Instagram and then they weren't spotted together.

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<v Speaker 3>So now I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 1>Married. Yeah, now they're married.

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<v Speaker 2>So the build up to their relationship was marked by that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>these aren't people that I follow super closely, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things where like they are just in

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<v Speaker 2>the news cycle when yeah, something happened. So they unfollowed

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<v Speaker 2>and followed each other multiple times leading up.

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<v Speaker 1>To the wedding. Okay, but as far as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>never called off the engagement.

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<v Speaker 3>See, this is how I act with my situationship. So

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<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't want to act like this with my fiance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite a public statement to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely, because she has over seventeen million followers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they wouldn't know people would be following closely,

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<v Speaker 2>So I get the feeling maybe they would just I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know these people at all. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>wild guess that they were just maybe having little TIFFs

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<v Speaker 2>as most people do in the lid up to their wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>And then instead of just having a little tiff and

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<v Speaker 2>going like for a drive or going into the other

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<v Speaker 2>room and like looking at TikTok for an hour, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't follow each other.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a new generations version of the silent treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But then every time they did that, multiple news articles

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<v Speaker 2>chronicling it got to the stage where someone was just

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<v Speaker 2>like if it's like any day of the week, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a follow or an unfollow, Like it was just

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<v Speaker 2>swinging back and forth in the lead up to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there were all these rumors that Matt had

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<v Speaker 2>like been seen with other women in the lead up

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<v Speaker 2>to the wedding, and then he came out and said,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't cheating on her. I was just with I

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<v Speaker 2>was on like a PR trip kind of like you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to Singapore, but this is with the famous people.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on a PR trip and the women he

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<v Speaker 2>was with with the same management, so they were.

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<v Speaker 1>On like a rest.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I'm allowed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was also footage that was taken of her

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<v Speaker 2>her bachelorette party crying and it looked like that they

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<v Speaker 2>had had a fight. But then she came out afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when you know it's a good bachelorette party. Someone

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna cry.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's probably the bride. She's emotional. There's a lot happening.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she came in and said that she wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>crying over Matt, that like ended the night together. So

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<v Speaker 2>like I believe that, yeah, being back and forth. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>photos of their wedding were shared by the Daily Mail,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think while the ceremony was still going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and they feel dirty.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did perv on these photos. Oh you did

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<v Speaker 3>have a little look, yes, because I was quite interested

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<v Speaker 3>in how the guests were seated.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is what everyone is saying. I didn't pick

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<v Speaker 2>that up at first. I mean I looked at it

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<v Speaker 2>and thought that's a bit odd.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I'm moved on.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I saw everyone saying, like, the biggest takeaway

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<v Speaker 2>is how these people are seating, So why did you

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<v Speaker 2>think it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So, firstly, it's a paparazzi shot we shouldn't be indulging

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<v Speaker 3>in this, And it looks like they.

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<v Speaker 2>Had drone cameras all like old school they would have

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<v Speaker 2>had helicopters, but it looks like they just had drones

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<v Speaker 2>and like I said, they were releasing them as I

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<v Speaker 2>think the wedding was still going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Drones are still loud. Oh, like that would have interrupted anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So the seating, it was like in Byron Bay, this

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<v Speaker 3>massive house mansion, I think it was. I didn't see

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<v Speaker 3>how she walked down the aisle, but I was really

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<v Speaker 3>intrigued to find out how because there's a massive pool

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle, and then there's guests seated on either

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<v Speaker 3>side of the pool, and then at the head of

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<v Speaker 3>the pool was like Tammy and mad doing the ceremony.

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<v Speaker 3>But the weird thing was is that the guests were

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<v Speaker 3>facing each other like as if it was a runway,

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<v Speaker 3>as the pool was a runway, and the guests were

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<v Speaker 3>facing the pool, so they all had to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>turn their bodies to face the front to look at Tammy.

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<v Speaker 3>And there was also these massive hedges between the guests

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<v Speaker 3>and Tammy. So I'm not sure the people at the

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<v Speaker 3>front of the seat could see them because of the

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<v Speaker 3>massive hedge in between.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like, I know, it's a fancy wedding, but

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<v Speaker 2>it almost felt like it was done for the aerial shots. Yes, yeah,

0:19:21.944 --> 0:19:24.264
<v Speaker 2>because it looked amazing from above, but when you look closer,

0:19:24.304 --> 0:19:27.264
<v Speaker 2>it was Logistics were questionable and this is why. Obviously

0:19:27.304 --> 0:19:30.344
<v Speaker 2>fancy wedding. But unless she walked on water, she couldn't

0:19:30.384 --> 0:19:31.384
<v Speaker 2>have walked, which is very crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think she could have walked on I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a very successful smart Maybe she figured that out

0:19:37.304 --> 0:19:39.544
<v Speaker 2>because she That means she couldn't have walked down the

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<v Speaker 2>aisle a.

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<v Speaker 3>Side like either walk along the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the way was she going? I love how this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we stuck. I do think she came from

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<v Speaker 1>the front. Actually there wasn't that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's becoming a really big trend, especially with

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity weddings, of coming from the front and walking towards

0:19:55.184 --> 0:19:59.264
<v Speaker 2>the guest and the groom. That's what Alex Cooper from

0:19:59.304 --> 0:20:01.984
<v Speaker 2>Call Her Daddy did. Act. She just did no, no, no, Yeah,

0:20:02.064 --> 0:20:03.624
<v Speaker 2>she came from the front, so she walked.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what she could have done like had a

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<v Speaker 3>stage and then appeared from underground.

0:20:07.304 --> 0:20:08.864
<v Speaker 1>Like Taylor Swift. That would have been amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what she think.

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<v Speaker 1>She came out on right.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's possible with these people so much money, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just looked incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>I just if you were at the wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want to know any other personal details. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not our business. If someone could just give us an

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<v Speaker 2>answer to the logistical question of how that bride got

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<v Speaker 2>to the altar, because she had the runners were.

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<v Speaker 3>A flower girl was a page board, so they also

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<v Speaker 3>would have had to appear somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So she's got three kids and I think they

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<v Speaker 2>were in the wedding, and then she had her sisters

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<v Speaker 2>who were also like famous influences, and they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Standing on the grass with the heels, and the men

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<v Speaker 3>were standing on concrete.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they all got lowered down and helicopters. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it did look beautiful. She had like almost like a

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<v Speaker 2>pinkish dress on, like it was very wicked too. Yeah,

0:20:49.904 --> 0:20:51.384
<v Speaker 2>it was very wicked pressed to it, and then the

0:20:51.384 --> 0:20:53.544
<v Speaker 2>bride'smaids were in black and it was all very sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>What I thought was interesting is like a documentary or

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<v Speaker 2>a TV special or something on that on that wedding,

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<v Speaker 2>on the build up to it would just go absolutely nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you were any Kardashian's wedding, Yeah, that's what

0:21:04.824 --> 0:21:07.224
<v Speaker 2>we actually needed. We needed like a wedding special. And

0:21:07.264 --> 0:21:09.144
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting that we keep kind of referring to the

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<v Speaker 2>Kardashians because ten me Hember out and she hates this

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<v Speaker 2>being brought up.

0:21:12.584 --> 0:21:14.064
<v Speaker 1>But she's not listening to this, so it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>But she first got very famous internationallybe she was carried

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<v Speaker 2>out of Kaylie Jenner's party. That's how I knew her,

0:21:19.384 --> 0:21:20.864
<v Speaker 2>and she writes about that in her book, and she

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of interviews about it. Actually she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>into your No Filter. We'll link in them if you

0:21:25.624 --> 0:21:27.424
<v Speaker 2>want to listen to that. But then she and her

0:21:27.464 --> 0:21:30.464
<v Speaker 2>sisters did start filming a reality TV show that was

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be Australia's answers to Keeping Up the Kadashians

0:21:33.384 --> 0:21:37.864
<v Speaker 2>years ago, and there's conflicting reports of like whether it

0:21:37.904 --> 0:21:40.304
<v Speaker 2>got canceled on the network side orhere they couldn't even

0:21:40.304 --> 0:21:42.144
<v Speaker 2>find a distributor or I think the girls have said

0:21:42.184 --> 0:21:43.584
<v Speaker 2>over the years that they didn't want to do it,

0:21:43.984 --> 0:21:46.264
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of conflicting reports. But I just

0:21:46.264 --> 0:21:47.304
<v Speaker 2>think we really need that show.

0:21:47.664 --> 0:21:50.064
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Oh my god, I would watch that. So one

0:21:50.064 --> 0:21:52.304
<v Speaker 3>of their sisters actually followed me on Instagram once. Oh

0:21:52.344 --> 0:21:54.184
<v Speaker 3>really yeah, when I was in my girl boss era,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when I started doing low brow stuff she unfollowed.

0:21:56.824 --> 0:21:58.384
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's fair, she's got tasting.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Congrats to Tammy and mad and yes, please get in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with this and just let us know how you

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<v Speaker 2>walk down that aisle.

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<v Speaker 3>Please, So, if you have any form of social media,

0:22:09.984 --> 0:22:12.984
<v Speaker 3>you would I've seen a very specific press tool has

0:22:13.024 --> 0:22:17.184
<v Speaker 3>been infiltrating your feeds. So I am clearly talking about

0:22:17.264 --> 0:22:21.224
<v Speaker 3>the press interviews that the Wicked cast are still doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I say still doing because we were lucky. We

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<v Speaker 3>were one of the first they had their worldwide premier.

0:22:25.584 --> 0:22:27.264
<v Speaker 3>We were the first stop of the press te You

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<v Speaker 3>were like, probably the top ten interviews do you get

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<v Speaker 3>with them? And I remember when we were dissecting your

0:22:34.944 --> 0:22:38.784
<v Speaker 3>interview with them, and you were saying that it's such

0:22:38.824 --> 0:22:42.264
<v Speaker 3>a deep movie, right, such an emotionally driven movie about

0:22:42.344 --> 0:22:45.664
<v Speaker 3>female friendship connection not being able to fit in. So

0:22:45.744 --> 0:22:48.504
<v Speaker 3>all of the interviews naturally were quite deep and emotional,

0:22:48.704 --> 0:22:51.944
<v Speaker 3>and you were saying how it's hard when you're doing

0:22:51.984 --> 0:22:54.984
<v Speaker 3>interviews back to back back to back, to constantly be

0:22:55.064 --> 0:22:58.464
<v Speaker 3>in that emotional state. However, they haven't caught a break,

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<v Speaker 3>because no.

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<v Speaker 1>They really haven't, because they're still.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing interviews in the US, and I think the US

0:23:04.064 --> 0:23:07.304
<v Speaker 3>press tool in particular is where we're starting to get

0:23:07.344 --> 0:23:14.024
<v Speaker 3>the memifications of the Wicked press in general. So these interviews,

0:23:14.584 --> 0:23:18.624
<v Speaker 3>they are all so so deep, and I think that's

0:23:18.664 --> 0:23:22.104
<v Speaker 3>mainly because a lot of the interviewers are also massive

0:23:22.184 --> 0:23:24.224
<v Speaker 3>fans of Wicked, kind of like you like, to the

0:23:24.264 --> 0:23:26.624
<v Speaker 3>point where it's like their life, Like they're like, I'm

0:23:26.664 --> 0:23:30.464
<v Speaker 3>so happy the movie did the musical justice. I think

0:23:30.624 --> 0:23:33.224
<v Speaker 3>it's fair to say that everyone's been loving this movie

0:23:33.264 --> 0:23:37.104
<v Speaker 3>like we did, and everyone just wants that deep emotional

0:23:37.144 --> 0:23:40.824
<v Speaker 3>interview with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Ribo, to the point

0:23:40.824 --> 0:23:43.144
<v Speaker 3>where I think that no matter what the question is

0:23:43.184 --> 0:23:46.344
<v Speaker 3>asked to them, their answer is just immediately cry.

0:23:46.504 --> 0:23:46.704
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because I think what people aren't seeing, what

0:23:48.864 --> 0:23:50.624
<v Speaker 2>you're saying from some of this press too, it is

0:23:50.664 --> 0:23:53.864
<v Speaker 2>what's happening to the journalists before they walk into the room.

0:23:54.064 --> 0:23:57.024
<v Speaker 2>So it's become this huge parody and it is funny

0:23:57.064 --> 0:23:59.624
<v Speaker 2>and it's into it's a big cultural moment of Ariano

0:23:59.624 --> 0:24:02.784
<v Speaker 2>and Cynthia being like very breathless and crying and very

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<v Speaker 2>emotional no matter what the question is. And I think

0:24:05.864 --> 0:24:07.664
<v Speaker 2>the flip side of that, what you're not seeing is

0:24:07.664 --> 0:24:09.304
<v Speaker 2>what's happening in the room outside.

0:24:09.624 --> 0:24:10.944
<v Speaker 1>And I wrote ah recap of.

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<v Speaker 2>This because I felt like I had to capture the

0:24:12.744 --> 0:24:15.144
<v Speaker 2>moment is because I've never seen anything like it before.

0:24:15.184 --> 0:24:16.704
<v Speaker 2>So as I was waiting to go in, and I

0:24:16.784 --> 0:24:18.784
<v Speaker 2>was waiting with all the journalists in Australia who were

0:24:18.784 --> 0:24:21.864
<v Speaker 2>doing the interviews with the Wicked cast, Plus they had

0:24:21.944 --> 0:24:25.144
<v Speaker 2>flown in international press from all of these different countries,

0:24:25.184 --> 0:24:26.744
<v Speaker 2>so pretty much everyone on this side of the world

0:24:27.024 --> 0:24:29.624
<v Speaker 2>was doing the interviews in that room, and people were

0:24:29.744 --> 0:24:33.304
<v Speaker 2>crying in the hallways before they went in, and then

0:24:33.344 --> 0:24:36.504
<v Speaker 2>people were coming out sobbing, and so that's all Arianna

0:24:36.584 --> 0:24:39.904
<v Speaker 2>and the Cynthia scene is everyone crying, everyone having an

0:24:39.944 --> 0:24:42.944
<v Speaker 2>emotional breakdown. And usually when you see people crying at junkets,

0:24:42.984 --> 0:24:45.424
<v Speaker 2>it's afterwards because the celeb's been really mean to them,

0:24:45.584 --> 0:24:48.264
<v Speaker 2>and it was like a crying contagion, like one's everyone

0:24:48.264 --> 0:24:50.744
<v Speaker 2>because like I wasn't planning to cry in there, obviously

0:24:50.744 --> 0:24:53.024
<v Speaker 2>cried during the movie because and I thought I was

0:24:53.024 --> 0:24:55.104
<v Speaker 2>having a special experience in such a die hard, wicked fan.

0:24:55.144 --> 0:24:56.104
<v Speaker 2>I got there and I was like, no, we're all

0:24:56.104 --> 0:24:58.904
<v Speaker 2>having the same experience. And then I even felt like

0:24:58.904 --> 0:25:01.064
<v Speaker 2>a few tears pricking my eyes as I was going

0:25:01.104 --> 0:25:03.184
<v Speaker 2>in because watching everyone else cry, and then I thought

0:25:03.184 --> 0:25:04.944
<v Speaker 2>about what a big moment was for me. I didn't

0:25:04.944 --> 0:25:07.784
<v Speaker 2>cry in the entire mo and then afterwards I felt

0:25:07.784 --> 0:25:09.264
<v Speaker 2>like a failure because I didn't cry. I was like,

0:25:09.264 --> 0:25:11.264
<v Speaker 2>maybe I should have because everyone but it's like a

0:25:11.304 --> 0:25:15.664
<v Speaker 2>crying contagion that you're seeing, and I think we're just

0:25:15.704 --> 0:25:17.384
<v Speaker 2>all passing it to each other. And then they're just

0:25:17.424 --> 0:25:20.384
<v Speaker 2>seeing that come at them every day, which is why

0:25:20.424 --> 0:25:23.944
<v Speaker 2>they're being so emotional, So that's what's happening. And those

0:25:23.944 --> 0:25:26.344
<v Speaker 2>are also the interviews that are being shared on social media,

0:25:26.384 --> 0:25:28.344
<v Speaker 2>and that are like picking up traction in the algorithm,

0:25:28.704 --> 0:25:31.544
<v Speaker 2>So like there's a bunch of normal interviews they've done,

0:25:31.584 --> 0:25:34.304
<v Speaker 2>but you're only seeing the over the top ones because

0:25:34.304 --> 0:25:36.664
<v Speaker 2>they're the ones that the algorithm is favoring at the moment.

0:25:36.744 --> 0:25:39.024
<v Speaker 2>So it's also giving this illusion they're crying all the time.

0:25:39.064 --> 0:25:41.344
<v Speaker 2>They're probably not, because like towards the end, of the day.

0:25:41.504 --> 0:25:43.304
<v Speaker 2>They weren't crying on my press stage.

0:25:43.544 --> 0:25:44.224
<v Speaker 1>Everyone was going to.

0:25:44.224 --> 0:25:46.264
<v Speaker 2>Be like I love Wicked and they're like thanks, because

0:25:46.264 --> 0:25:47.624
<v Speaker 2>they were like, I can't do this anymore.

0:25:47.664 --> 0:25:47.984
<v Speaker 1>Over it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing, though, because I think a lot of

0:25:50.344 --> 0:25:53.464
<v Speaker 3>people have seen the interviews where they're emotional and stuff,

0:25:53.464 --> 0:25:55.664
<v Speaker 3>and this includes the interviewers to the point where I've

0:25:55.704 --> 0:25:57.824
<v Speaker 3>noticed and I've watched a lot of interviews on this

0:25:57.864 --> 0:26:02.304
<v Speaker 3>press tool where the interviewers aren't necessarily asking them questions,

0:26:02.304 --> 0:26:05.024
<v Speaker 3>but I'm all making statements waiting for them to react

0:26:05.064 --> 0:26:08.544
<v Speaker 3>because they want that emotional yeah. And I'm like their actors,

0:26:08.584 --> 0:26:10.984
<v Speaker 3>like your job is to ask the questions and they're

0:26:11.024 --> 0:26:13.984
<v Speaker 3>meant to answer. So there's this one interview. I'm sure

0:26:13.984 --> 0:26:16.624
<v Speaker 3>you would have seen it. It's gone absolutely viral. So

0:26:16.664 --> 0:26:20.584
<v Speaker 3>the interview's name is Tracy E. Gilchrist, and she talks

0:26:20.584 --> 0:26:23.744
<v Speaker 3>about the song Defying Gravity, which is the last song

0:26:23.824 --> 0:26:25.664
<v Speaker 3>of this film, and then it goes into it and

0:26:25.704 --> 0:26:27.904
<v Speaker 3>the biggest song from the musical overall. It's like the

0:26:27.904 --> 0:26:29.544
<v Speaker 3>song that even if you don't know the musical, you

0:26:29.624 --> 0:26:33.584
<v Speaker 3>note this song. And she says people are taking the

0:26:33.704 --> 0:26:37.064
<v Speaker 3>lyrics of defining Gravity and are really holding space with that?

0:26:37.544 --> 0:26:40.144
<v Speaker 2>Can I say this was like a cold water being

0:26:40.184 --> 0:26:41.744
<v Speaker 2>thrown over me when I saw this interview, it was

0:26:41.744 --> 0:26:43.944
<v Speaker 2>like a slap across the face because it like almost

0:26:44.024 --> 0:26:46.704
<v Speaker 2>knocked me out of how crazy I have been over

0:26:46.744 --> 0:26:49.264
<v Speaker 2>this wicked press tour as well, because when I first

0:26:49.344 --> 0:26:52.504
<v Speaker 2>saw that, I took that with a lot of sincerity

0:26:52.504 --> 0:26:54.304
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, yeah, I am holding space with

0:26:54.344 --> 0:26:56.424
<v Speaker 2>the lyrics of defining gravity. And I was like, wait,

0:26:56.464 --> 0:26:58.304
<v Speaker 2>what what's happened.

0:26:58.344 --> 0:27:00.744
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anyone knew what it meant because she said.

0:27:00.544 --> 0:27:02.624
<v Speaker 2>That, but I do somehow in a spiritual level, know

0:27:02.704 --> 0:27:05.144
<v Speaker 2>what she means. But she's taken what every journalist has done,

0:27:05.144 --> 0:27:07.144
<v Speaker 2>and she just crossed the line a little bit too

0:27:07.224 --> 0:27:11.304
<v Speaker 2>far into like woo territory, and as a society we snapped.

0:27:11.064 --> 0:27:14.224
<v Speaker 3>Back holding space with that. I think. So what she did,

0:27:14.264 --> 0:27:16.464
<v Speaker 3>she said, they're really holding space with that. And I

0:27:16.544 --> 0:27:19.984
<v Speaker 3>just want you to know this. I've seen this week

0:27:20.064 --> 0:27:23.144
<v Speaker 3>people are taking the lyrics of defying gravity and really

0:27:23.184 --> 0:27:26.424
<v Speaker 3>holding space with that and feeling power in that.

0:27:27.304 --> 0:27:29.824
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that that was happening. I've seen it.

0:27:29.984 --> 0:27:32.944
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really powerful.

0:27:34.744 --> 0:27:41.184
<v Speaker 1>That's why I wanted. Yeah, I didn't know that was happening.

0:27:41.784 --> 0:27:44.704
<v Speaker 3>It's not a question, right, So Cynthia and Harri are

0:27:44.784 --> 0:27:46.944
<v Speaker 3>kind of looking at her, and then you can see

0:27:47.024 --> 0:27:50.584
<v Speaker 3>in Cynthia's head like something switches and she's like, oh,

0:27:50.624 --> 0:27:51.704
<v Speaker 3>she wants me to be emotional.

0:27:51.744 --> 0:27:53.384
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And she just kind of.

0:27:53.344 --> 0:27:55.664
<v Speaker 3>Puts her hand on her chest and she's like, I

0:27:55.664 --> 0:28:00.184
<v Speaker 3>didn't know this, what's happening. And then she's like, that's

0:28:00.224 --> 0:28:01.104
<v Speaker 3>really powerful.

0:28:01.704 --> 0:28:04.064
<v Speaker 2>That's what I want because you could take that answer

0:28:04.104 --> 0:28:06.944
<v Speaker 2>and put that tinely every Wicked question. She's answered like,

0:28:07.024 --> 0:28:07.544
<v Speaker 2>that's really.

0:28:07.664 --> 0:28:10.424
<v Speaker 3>Her hands on her thing, and Irina grabbed her finger.

0:28:10.504 --> 0:28:13.144
<v Speaker 2>The finger grab which has become its own moment in

0:28:13.184 --> 0:28:15.544
<v Speaker 2>pop culture. So for the whole press tours, Cynthia River

0:28:15.624 --> 0:28:19.664
<v Speaker 2>has had these incredible long, embellish nails, and because she

0:28:19.704 --> 0:28:21.904
<v Speaker 2>speaks with her hands so much, and like I did

0:28:21.904 --> 0:28:23.424
<v Speaker 2>shake her hands with that touch, the nails they're very

0:28:23.504 --> 0:28:25.464
<v Speaker 2>nice because she speaks to the hands so much. They've

0:28:25.504 --> 0:28:29.104
<v Speaker 2>been a real center point of all her interviews and

0:28:29.344 --> 0:28:31.784
<v Speaker 2>each one's like an homage to like different parts of

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<v Speaker 2>Wicked and stuff. Like the storytelling layering here is very intense.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that at the end of the breast tour,

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<v Speaker 2>The nail got its own moment because Arione Grande, who's

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<v Speaker 2>got a very small hand, is like they hold hands

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<v Speaker 2>in every interview, and like they hug in every interview,

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<v Speaker 2>and they like lie on each other like they're very emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think she reached over to grab Cynthia's hand

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<v Speaker 2>and couldn't get a whole hand, but she did get

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<v Speaker 2>one finger. Instead of pulling a hand back, she just

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<v Speaker 2>really committed to holding onto that finger.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that whole like that interview was just

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<v Speaker 3>bizarre because she was like that's so powerful, and like

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<v Speaker 3>she kind of looks at Ari to make sure she's

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<v Speaker 3>conveying the right emotion, and Ari's looking at her like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and just holding the finger.

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<v Speaker 1>Like let's just say, don't even there at this stage

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<v Speaker 1>of the press to it.

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<v Speaker 2>They've done so many interviews that they don't even have

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<v Speaker 2>to say really anything anymore. Like an interview just say

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<v Speaker 2>to them something emotional and they go, yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we want.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that interviewer wants tears. She wants tears,

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<v Speaker 3>She's gonna go home with tears. So she's just sitting

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<v Speaker 3>there like, yeah, I just thought you guys should know,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking for holding space for this is it also

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<v Speaker 2>that I do understand what she means? So because the

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<v Speaker 2>lyrics I hate myself, I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 3>You understand what it means, because the internet absolutely does not.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the lyrics are define gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>Are like a power ballad for like people who don't

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<v Speaker 2>fit in or people who are going to go their

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<v Speaker 2>own way. I'm flying solately time for lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>We've known the lyrics for years. This is not a

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<v Speaker 1>question with them space I don't know. I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on her side.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on Twitter side because these memes made me a lowl.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to read you out some of my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite After this interview went well, someone said, I'm holding

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<v Speaker 3>space for the video about holding space for the defying

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<v Speaker 3>gravity lyrics. I don't understand what holding space means or

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<v Speaker 3>why it's so powerful, but I'm holding space for the

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<v Speaker 3>potential to understand the space I'm holding. Someone said, I

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<v Speaker 3>watched this like thirty times and I still can't understand

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<v Speaker 3>a single thing that's going on here. And then my favorite,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for your email. I'm currently out of office to

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<v Speaker 3>take the lyrics of defying gravity and really holding space

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<v Speaker 3>with that. I'll go back to you as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>i'm able. Best recards so good.

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<v Speaker 2>The best way I saw was taking that viral Kim

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<v Speaker 2>Kardashian quote about no one wants to work anymore, and

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<v Speaker 2>they put her face across it, and it's like, no

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<v Speaker 2>one wants to hold space for the lyrics of defying

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<v Speaker 2>gravity anymore. Get up off your ass and hold space

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<v Speaker 2>for the lyrics of defying gravity.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm like it was just so bizarre. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think if this was the most viral thing that came

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<v Speaker 3>out of this press too, it's probably a very successful.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been so many And the thing is that the

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<v Speaker 2>press tour has worked like they knew what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly do believe they're very close. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>that this whole press tour, everything from the outfits to

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<v Speaker 2>how they speak, how they interact, how they look, how

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<v Speaker 2>they enter an event together, has all been set up

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<v Speaker 2>for this moment and it's worked because Wicked has had

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<v Speaker 2>like a record opening box office weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, they were fans of the musical.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's heaps of other people who people just want

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<v Speaker 2>this sense of occasion with a movie, like it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>like they're getting people. This is what Blake Lively wanted for.

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<v Speaker 2>It ends with us, but we couldn't really get on

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<v Speaker 2>board because of the movie subject matter. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>the next step of Barbie is like all the photos

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen of people going, it's like people are going

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<v Speaker 2>with their friends, they're dressing in the colors, they're filming

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<v Speaker 2>their reactions before and afterwards, like they're really getting on

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<v Speaker 2>board with that. And a lot of that has to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the hype of the pressure of people wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to have that sense of occasion and like lean into

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<v Speaker 2>this online silliness.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's safe to say that we're holding space.

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<v Speaker 1>We're holding space. So the Wicked Press took Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.

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<v Speaker 3>If you missed Friday's episode, Whoa, whoa, whoa, take a

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<v Speaker 3>step back, because we did a brutally honest review of

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<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite movies of the year, Gladiator two

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<v Speaker 3>aka the movie with sexy hot men who kill each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to build it up too much,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do believe this has been the feedback from people.

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<v Speaker 2>Our funniest episode yet Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>What I wanted. I didn't practice my poor mescal voice

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<v Speaker 3>for no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>That has been haunting my dreams. It's so intense.

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<v Speaker 3>We will put a link to that episode in the

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<v Speaker 3>show notes, and we will be back here in your

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<v Speaker 3>podcast feed at three pm tomorrow. Bye bye