Speaker 1: Welcome to the Seize the Yay Podcast.
Speaker 2: Busy and happy are not the same thing. We too
Speaker 2: rarely question what makes the heart seeing. We work, then
Speaker 2: we rest, but rarely we play and often don't realize
Speaker 2: there's more than one way. So this is the platforms
Speaker 2: to hear and explore the stories of those who found
Speaker 2: lives they adore, the good, bad and ugly, the best
Speaker 2: and worst day will bear all the facets of Seizing
Speaker 2: your Yea. I'm Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah,
Speaker 2: a lawyer turned funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels
Speaker 2: to co found Matcha Maiden and matcha Milk Bar. Sez
Speaker 2: the Ya is a series of conversations on finding a
Speaker 2: life you love and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy
Speaker 2: and fulfillment along the way.
Speaker 3: Hi Berm, Welcome to twenty twenty four. This is take
Speaker 3: seventy five, Just today Tea and attempt probably eight hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty cents to twenty second.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you, every time we start this podcast
Speaker 1: we say we suck.
Speaker 3: We started today because it's so far we've been. You've
Speaker 3: come over here, record and then something happens.
Speaker 1: We eat it's usually we eat, we eat.
Speaker 3: A snack and then we get in a food coma
Speaker 3: and then we don't want to do it anymore. And
Speaker 3: then you're like, okay, let's record, and I'm like, nah,
Speaker 3: I'm over there.
Speaker 1: And then you and I are both like good enough
Speaker 1: with each other that we're like, are you tired? And
Speaker 1: You're like no, no, no, no, no, bear you tie and
Speaker 1: I'm like no, no, no, just tell me, are you tired?
Speaker 3: And I'm like like no, no, no, I'm good. And
Speaker 3: then you're like Noah, I'm good too, and we're both
Speaker 3: like can you be bothered?
Speaker 1: N No.
Speaker 3: But I think it's I think it's a good nah
Speaker 3: nah no, No. I think it's a good development that
Speaker 3: instead of being rigidly like you know, for the first
Speaker 3: was it three years, I didn't take a week off.
Speaker 1: I was so rigid and.
Speaker 3: That was a and it was a beautiful time. We
Speaker 3: had so many amazing guests. But we've kind of obviously
Speaker 3: entered a bit of a different phase where flexibility and
Speaker 3: seeing how you feel weak to week pr it's what's.
Speaker 1: PERN in the hospital PRN.
Speaker 3: What's that I think it stands for?
Speaker 1: Like, I think it's pro renata or something which means
Speaker 1: we just wanted to we feel like it. Oh cool,
Speaker 1: we're doing this pr RENT or healthcare supporters out as
Speaker 1: the thing is needed.
Speaker 3: Oh is what PRN means? Special comments research. He's Jamie
Speaker 3: from Joe Rogan. Guys, we've we've really changed the structure
Speaker 3: around this year. We've got a studio. No, but basically
Speaker 3: I had in our calendar from like jan eleven, first
Speaker 3: yays of our lives back New Year's like Resolutions episode
Speaker 3: New Year Knew me. Let's talk about a freshman year.
Speaker 3: And we've tried. You've come over maybe six times, and
Speaker 3: time I'm like, I'm just like, I'm just enjoying being pregnant.
Speaker 1: Holiday of your Like, what do you meant to say
Speaker 1: to someone that's like, oh, I'm pregnant and tired exactly?
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, good self care. Last last time moment
Speaker 1: it was the sixteenth of January and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so we recording tomorrow. And so I was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: we don't come back until the twenty something. I don't no, no,
Speaker 1: I swear my life. We agreed on the sixteenth. She's like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I promise you it's the twenty something joint before it
Speaker 1: was like the seventh easy your first one back, and.
Speaker 3: Then we thought so obviously you guys can't see right now,
Speaker 3: but you'll see the snippet. We are both wearing Speed
Speaker 3: Dealer sunglasses for this episode for no reason.
Speaker 1: Because this year's MOTI, because it is the need for speed,
Speaker 1: for not speeding the actual.
Speaker 3: Of what I've been doing, avoiding every single episode we've
Speaker 3: done so far. But it is time because it's the
Speaker 3: end of January. Yes, it's actually the end of the month,
Speaker 3: but every year I say this, I kind of feel
Speaker 3: like January is are warmer where you still don't really
Speaker 3: know what day it is. You're kind of getting you know,
Speaker 3: your vocabulary back of actually speaking to people in work mode.
Speaker 1: So really, feb first.
Speaker 3: Is New Year's Yeah, that's what I had to say
Speaker 3: to the support and this will hopefully be time to
Speaker 3: come out on February first, So new months knew me,
Speaker 3: not new year knew me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, new month, new birth year knew me. That counts.
Speaker 1: We can do. We can do feb second every year
Speaker 1: as New Year because oh oh yeah, let's just do that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: FB second is and his birth year. Guys, that's birthday.
Speaker 1: We are this is not.
Speaker 3: That's really good, and it gets worse and worse, Like
Speaker 3: I feel like as our standards rely, we only.
Speaker 1: Ever end the podcast when we're both look at Tomine
Speaker 1: like it's time.
Speaker 3: It's too much, it's too much, okay. But we did
Speaker 3: have a really planned out structure for what the first
Speaker 3: few episodes of the year would because they were themed
Speaker 3: around like the first one back would be what are
Speaker 3: your intentions for the year?
Speaker 1: How are you feeling?
Speaker 3: And the last one we did was meant to be
Speaker 3: our wrap from last year, which I don't even think
Speaker 3: we did because we didn't record a last episode because
Speaker 3: we we.
Speaker 1: Did remember honestly, if you get to the end of
Speaker 1: this episode, but the sort of reward we decide.
Speaker 3: So we're going to do giveaways every week where and
Speaker 3: wears the thing or uses the product in the episode,
Speaker 3: and we'll just give away that one product, and we're
Speaker 3: going to leave anyone who actually bothers.
Speaker 1: We'll even nugget of what you have to the entry requirements.
Speaker 3: But that's not starting this week because.
Speaker 2: That star.
Speaker 1: Well, it's really weird.
Speaker 3: I mean, part of my whole chain mentality for twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four is we worked out, so this is going
Speaker 3: to have to go backwards instead of catching everyone up
Speaker 3: from descemble. We're gonna have to go backwards because my
Speaker 3: memory is so bad.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what we just did.
Speaker 3: But I just realized we're in the single week's left
Speaker 3: until little baby Davidson is born, which means and was like, okay,
Speaker 3: so if we do the giveaway, should I contact some
Speaker 3: brands so we can work out like the schedule of
Speaker 3: the giveaways, like should we do like one is sunglasses,
Speaker 3: the next week is black And I'm like, well, I
Speaker 3: don't know if this baby comes out, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I'm going to record, Like I don't know, like
Speaker 3: who even knows.
Speaker 1: No, It's true.
Speaker 3: So we're going very spontaneously, like more than I ever
Speaker 3: have in my life, which is really nice. It's very different.
Speaker 1: You say you're just doing this for joy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing I'm kind of not really able to
Speaker 3: plan week to week because you also don't know what
Speaker 3: your physical or mental abilities each week will be as
Speaker 3: you get further into like I'm thirty one weeks now
Speaker 3: and that's like a Bible baby could be born, So
Speaker 3: I'm not really able to plan as much, which is strange.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy because you just still don't look it.
Speaker 1: You just if you looked at every part of your
Speaker 1: body but the belly, you'd be like, gosh, even when
Speaker 1: you sit down, you couldn't tell. No one could tell.
Speaker 3: But the belly is quite large. Now the belly is
Speaker 3: the belly is large. But if you sat down and
Speaker 3: I have diabetes, everyone since last time dis yeah, I
Speaker 3: have gestational diabetes, which is has been actually nowhere near
Speaker 3: as hard as I thought. So the I think part
Speaker 3: of my I mean, you guys know, I love to
Speaker 3: just share whatever's happening as it happens in real time,
Speaker 3: and it's been nice to notice how much.
Speaker 1: Stigma and misunderstanding. Firstly, there is stigma about.
Speaker 3: It, well, particularly around the fact that people think, oh,
Speaker 3: but you're not overweight, so how do you have diabetes?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know where that association comes from. Firstly, they
Speaker 3: think that they, including myself, originally think what did I do?
Speaker 3: What kind of eating did I do to bring this on?
Speaker 3: And particularly in pregnancy, it's not due to anything that
Speaker 3: your lifestyle of behavior has contributed to its hormone or
Speaker 3: But also yeah, the association of like, well, you must
Speaker 3: have been not looking after your health, or if you're
Speaker 3: not overweight, you can't have it, or yeah, just a
Speaker 3: lot of people misunderstanding and then beating themselves up about it.
Speaker 3: So it's been lovely to A realize it's not nearly
Speaker 3: as difficult to manage as I thought, but b share
Speaker 3: with a lot of other people who are realizing at
Speaker 3: the same time it's not as big a deal as
Speaker 3: you think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then is just stational diabetes just genetics?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a combination of your genetic history. And
Speaker 3: then like some people are more prone to it than others,
Speaker 3: But then also some women will get it in one
Speaker 3: pregnancy and not in the other, literally just based on
Speaker 3: the hormones that your placenta is creating. So it's got
Speaker 3: very little, if nothing, to do with how you ate
Speaker 3: in the earlier parts of your pregnancy. It's around the
Speaker 3: third track, like the cusp of the second and third
Speaker 3: that you do the test because it doesn't come on
Speaker 3: earlier than that. And all it is is your body
Speaker 3: when you normally eat something, and your blood sugar levels
Speaker 3: go up higher if it's more sugary food, and lower
Speaker 3: if it's not. Your body produces insulin, which helps bring
Speaker 3: it back down and regulate it. The placenta stops the
Speaker 3: insulin production, so the blood the sugar just stays in
Speaker 3: your blood and just floats around. The problem is normally
Speaker 3: you're the person who deals with the consequences. When you're pregnant.
Speaker 3: The blood in your sugar goes to the baby, not you,
Speaker 3: so the baby.
Speaker 1: Becomes subby gigantic. You should keep eating sugar. Ummy baby,
Speaker 1: but Dream is a chubby.
Speaker 3: Baby, but not so big for their age that then
Speaker 3: they often deliver pre term because they're too big, like
Speaker 3: really early on, so they often delivered early if you
Speaker 3: don't kind of get on top of it. So I've
Speaker 3: learnt so much. But even just like I didn't even
Speaker 3: realize how much I was letting my blood sugar get
Speaker 3: load just during the day in terms of energy, Like
Speaker 3: you don't even think about if you know, eat your
Speaker 3: lunch breakfast really early and lunch really late. You don't
Speaker 3: think about how much that affects your energy levels when
Speaker 3: you're not evening out your blood sugar. It's been really interesting,
Speaker 3: And what's a big.
Speaker 1: Update whatever you had to cut out or what's been difficult.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like the end of my life,
Speaker 1: Like I thought there was no car like type diabetic.
Speaker 1: Shut up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I literally thought, not only is just otional diabetes.
Speaker 3: As soon as the baby's born, it goes away. So
Speaker 3: it is an insight into the life of people who
Speaker 3: do have like type one or type two. Life long
Speaker 3: and I have to be much stricter. But I did think,
Speaker 3: like I cried. I was like, you can't take bread
Speaker 3: and ice cream pregnantly, But you don't actually have to
Speaker 3: cut out, like wholesur cut things out of your diet.
Speaker 3: It's just managing when you eat them, the volume, and
Speaker 3: also how much of them you eat versus other things.
Speaker 3: So I can have For example, some people are really
Speaker 3: sensitive to some fruits, but if you eat them with
Speaker 3: a protein or with nut butter, it's begins out or
Speaker 3: the skin on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like.
Speaker 3: Sweet potato, if you boil it, it's fine, but if
Speaker 3: you roast it, it's harder. So it's a lot of learning.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: So that's right, that's one of the big updates. Happened
Speaker 3: since the last episode.
Speaker 1: It would have been like twenty five weeks or something.
Speaker 1: It's been a long Yeah, I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: can't even remember, but I definitely was like's it was
Speaker 1: feeling really real. I think he was kicking a lot,
Speaker 1: and we were just about to go into chrisp.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was before Christmas, right, yeh. And i'd been
Speaker 3: smashing it pretty hard, thinking the second trimester is the
Speaker 3: last one.
Speaker 1: I'll have more control.
Speaker 3: Over my energy and like not be so big that
Speaker 3: I can't like I can't travel after a certain date
Speaker 3: and whatever. And then we had a really really lovely
Speaker 3: break and then we've had a baby moon since they're cute,
Speaker 3: and now I'm big. Now I'm like actually obstructed.
Speaker 1: I can't walk fast.
Speaker 3: I'm a fast walker. I can't fast walk. I have
Speaker 3: to say you are big for your body, yeah, like
Speaker 3: the bellies, like you pop, I'd say you've popped.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For a long period, I was like, when baby,
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm like, I thought, ladies, you're not big.
Speaker 3: But I don't even know how to catch people up
Speaker 3: on what's happened since December because I don't even know.
Speaker 1: What December you did. Let me tell you what I do.
Speaker 3: You don't even know.
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: All I did was canceled the podcast Christmas We had
Speaker 3: Christmas here. That's why your Christmas first family Christmas at
Speaker 3: the house you is so wholesome and lovely.
Speaker 1: And then went away to Vegas, Breus Vegas.
Speaker 3: What do we do for the New Years?
Speaker 1: We were here, I was here.
Speaker 3: We had a spontaneous lazy night because.
Speaker 1: We're both old ladies. That's right, you don't even have
Speaker 1: an excuse. Yeah, VI curiously pregnant. My best friend was pregnant. Pregnant.
Speaker 3: That was really cute.
Speaker 1: It was actually really cute.
Speaker 3: We didn't make it to the adult fireworks though we
Speaker 3: didn't know. We didn't even make it to the day over.
Speaker 1: No. I came back, but we still didn't even make
Speaker 1: it to the kid fireworks, which.
Speaker 3: Was nine point thirty. Yeah, so we've been very.
Speaker 1: Busy, very busy. But between that time, I feel like
Speaker 1: you went away somewhere. Didn't You had you had the baby. Oh,
Speaker 1: Kim was down for a period.
Speaker 3: Yes, you had the baby from Bloom Effects, the incredible
Speaker 3: Chilip based botanical beauty company. She lives in Amsterdam on
Speaker 3: a tulip farm, her and her beautiful kids and her husband.
Speaker 3: But he headed home before we did a shoot at
Speaker 3: the house. We all had a beautiful family reunion. That
Speaker 3: was lovely.
Speaker 1: We've done a lot, That's what I mean. I felt
Speaker 1: like it was so busy, but we also it was lovely.
Speaker 3: That like pretty much from the from Christmas Day to
Speaker 3: after the baby moon. Nick was working, but much less.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you'd spend time Tkeet and I had organized to.
Speaker 3: Not have anything to film, so I did like a
Speaker 3: couple of days of radio, but otherwise allowed us to
Speaker 3: have an actual break and not travel anywhere. Like we
Speaker 3: just were in the house and nesting. It was the
Speaker 3: first time I nested.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cute and the house did houses looking
Speaker 1: really good, and Bim, I seized my gay.
Speaker 3: I read a book every day?
Speaker 1: What you saw this? You have a book every day?
Speaker 1: I did, but I realized it was every day. Bim,
Speaker 1: I haven't read a book since since you said read
Speaker 1: The Spy six years ago? What did I make you read?
Speaker 1: The Spy? Was really good?
Speaker 3: That was it about?
Speaker 1: Was it? The Trader in the Spy was true story? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the best. That's a recommendation for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to go back to recommendations. We've totally
Speaker 3: lost the plot like over the last like two years.
Speaker 3: Do you know what the time of denominator is you joining?
Speaker 1: That was so subtle.
Speaker 3: Down dramatically.
Speaker 1: The last two years, it's just pretty.
Speaker 3: You've been around when your presence was more No, we've
Speaker 3: had so much more fun with the neighborhood. Oh my god. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to update people on what we've done. What
Speaker 3: did you do?
Speaker 1: Where did you go?
Speaker 3: It was amazing. Nick is on the phone and I
Speaker 3: can hear. For fox sake, Nick, this is my offwards.
Speaker 3: We've got a real casual. We've got a real casual.
Speaker 3: We're trying to give you a little insight into We're
Speaker 3: not gonna make it through anyway.
Speaker 1: Listen, how long is Nicholas? Okay?
Speaker 3: Good, he knows he's doing it on purpose. He's so
Speaker 3: excited to be a dad. By the way, that's the
Speaker 3: next that's that's the next chapter of the episode. We
Speaker 3: have no chapters, baby maybe but okay, oh my god.
Speaker 3: So we originally, you guys know where like avid adventures.
Speaker 3: We love going overseas and doing wilder adventures and traveling
Speaker 3: and stuff. But it's so strange how as soon as
Speaker 3: I got pregnant, I suddenly just didn't I don't know,
Speaker 3: the desire to be somewhere familiar and safe and like
Speaker 3: I never like we went when we went to Antarctica,
Speaker 3: I didn't even look up what happens if there's a
Speaker 3: medical issue, Like I just didn't even think about it.
Speaker 1: And now we went to.
Speaker 3: Brisbane and I was like, where's the nearest natural unit
Speaker 3: where I can give birth? Like It's just so funny
Speaker 3: how your brain does change in ways you never expect
Speaker 3: that it will. But we were going to go, probably
Speaker 3: a bit earlier in the pregnancy, we thought about going overseas,
Speaker 3: and then I was like, I think let's just do
Speaker 3: something domestic and where the flight, particularly the flying. I've
Speaker 3: noticed that in the last four weeks as I've popped
Speaker 3: that the sitting for long periods actually is quite painful
Speaker 3: and uncomfortable. So we chose Brizzy to go to the
Speaker 3: Calisle Hotel, which we've never stayed at before. It's been
Speaker 3: on the bucket list. I think I've been maybe to
Speaker 3: dinner at one of the restaurants there before, but I've
Speaker 3: never stayed. And we just booked five days in one spot.
Speaker 1: Not moving around, and it was so I was like,
Speaker 1: why is this?
Speaker 3: So we were getting some interference from antres phone before
Speaker 3: and it was crackling, and just then I was like,
Speaker 3: why the fuck is the crackling back? And she's eating
Speaker 3: a protein bar and trying so hard not to make
Speaker 3: a noise, and I just realized what it was, so subtle,
Speaker 3: hungry Sly, you did well? Is it your blood, sugar?
Speaker 3: I trust her to talk for as long as you
Speaker 3: need me. Anyway, I heard the crackly ten minutes. I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, she's it's way louder when you try
Speaker 3: and do it slowly. Also anyway with the headphone, I'm like,
Speaker 3: she's doing something dead. Anyway, So we booked that for
Speaker 3: five days, and the precinct there is amazing.
Speaker 1: It's so clever.
Speaker 3: It's this incredible hotel that was built by this one
Speaker 3: family and they also have curated I think they bought
Speaker 3: the market fresh food market nearby, oh my god, first
Speaker 3: and then that went really well in an area that
Speaker 3: wasn't very gentrified. Built this magnificent hotel that's totally different
Speaker 3: to any other hotel, like that normal minimal white, clean aesthetic.
Speaker 3: It's quite busy, like there's lots of textures and lots
Speaker 3: of shapes, and it's it's an architectural like it's very
Speaker 3: well known worldwide. But they also had like all the
Speaker 3: shops around the bottom and on that main street and
Speaker 3: then all the restaurants, like it's become a precinct where
Speaker 3: you just fly in. You go there and there's a
Speaker 3: tough places to keep me going that you don't leave,
Speaker 3: and then you fly out. It was so cool, and
Speaker 3: I've not spent that much time in Brizzie, so it
Speaker 3: was really lovely. We just we've been so busy but
Speaker 3: also doing the house and stuff. Even when we're at home,
Speaker 3: we haven't been just together sort of thinking about getting
Speaker 3: ready for a baby that much.
Speaker 1: So we had a whole week of just being in
Speaker 1: the sun reading.
Speaker 3: I read so many books, just like rubbing the belly
Speaker 3: and just getting excited, like really looking forward to how special.
Speaker 2: It was going to be.
Speaker 1: And it was just magical.
Speaker 3: It was so nice, so nice for you. I was
Speaker 3: so I like, was so happy in a way that
Speaker 3: I like, I'm always quite happy, but I'm often happy
Speaker 3: attached to momentum or to doing something or seeing people,
Speaker 3: and this was like happy without stimulus. It was really interesting.
Speaker 3: It was just like content. I think it's content. We
Speaker 3: were just both like a it was really nice.
Speaker 1: It's all happened very perfectly. I think we've said this.
Speaker 1: The house, yeah was not planned, like none of this was.
Speaker 1: They're like, you weren't like, oh, we get the house
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to try and this and that.
Speaker 1: It just happened to be just all.
Speaker 3: Kind of worked out. And I think it was at
Speaker 3: a good time as well. That I was twenty nine
Speaker 3: weeks so it wasn't too far along that like I
Speaker 3: was a bit smaller. I think that I am right
Speaker 3: at this moment, so I didn't have any joint discomfort,
Speaker 3: like even lying by the pool, like now I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be able to lie down that long, but I could
Speaker 3: lie down and read.
Speaker 1: And then we had this amazing experience where a business
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: And you guys know how much I love discovering people
Speaker 3: who have listened to the podcast, and especially when we
Speaker 3: were into state and I get the chance to actually
Speaker 3: meet someone in person, it's so exciting. So we were
Speaker 3: at the Khalil for five nights and then on the
Speaker 3: very last day, this amazing woman called Libby, who's a
Speaker 3: mum herself, messages, I'm down the road and I'm just
Speaker 3: putting it out there, but I've started this business.
Speaker 1: She used to be corporate. Since I've had my kids,
Speaker 1: I've started this.
Speaker 3: Business where I create using three D like the skills
Speaker 3: she learned in architecture of three D photography and then
Speaker 3: bronze casting and molding to make three D versions of
Speaker 3: your pregnant body at a particular time and your pregnancy.
Speaker 3: So instead of just like a pregnancy shoot, She's like,
Speaker 3: I want to capture the fact that so many mums
Speaker 3: and women in general have such a shit relationship with
Speaker 3: their body for most of their life, Like we are
Speaker 3: so critical of ourselves. I don't know many women who
Speaker 3: haven't had a period at least in their life of
Speaker 3: hypercritical relationship towards your body, like wanting it to be
Speaker 3: different in some way, whatever that may be, or just
Speaker 3: asking so much of it and not really feeling.
Speaker 1: Grateful and appreciative.
Speaker 3: And I thought that pregnancy obviously involves putting on weight,
Speaker 3: getting curves you haven't had before. I thought, I have
Speaker 3: a moment where I was just a bit like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm not fitting my clothes, and the entire pregnancy has
Speaker 3: been just like I'm a miracle, I'm mother nature.
Speaker 1: You are mother to reason, but I didn't expect to
Speaker 1: feel it that much.
Speaker 3: And then on this baby moon, because we were like
Speaker 3: I was in bathers the whole time. I was even
Speaker 3: more just like swimming and like and I have boobs,
Speaker 3: and I just was like, oh my god, like we
Speaker 3: can feel the baby kicking all the time. I just
Speaker 3: had this weird window of like not feeling nauseous but
Speaker 3: not being in pain where I just was like naked
Speaker 3: all the time, and I was just like, this is
Speaker 3: so beautiful anyway. And on that like in the middle
Speaker 3: of that, she's like, I want to help women capture
Speaker 3: that feeling because they often go back to then postpartum,
Speaker 3: being like I hope my body I wanted to go
Speaker 3: back to.
Speaker 1: It was anyway, and she's like, I can come to
Speaker 1: your hotel and do it. Oh my gosh, like today,
Speaker 1: and I got and she came and we did it
Speaker 1: and it was the most amazing thing.
Speaker 3: And no one else in Australia does a take anology
Speaker 3: that she does, and I just was blown away by
Speaker 3: her and the whole experiences.
Speaker 1: And what's her business names called Set and Max.
Speaker 3: I've posted it about it, so there's a static post
Speaker 3: and some links in stories, but I'll repost it again
Speaker 3: when we share this episode, and she's doing pop ups
Speaker 3: in Sydney and Melbourne coming up as well.
Speaker 1: Really we should meet her. I know she's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should meet her so that she can do
Speaker 3: your booby.
Speaker 1: Only one google, but literally took three.
Speaker 3: Minutes for her to do the philosophy, and then the
Speaker 3: rest was like making sure the angles were right and
Speaker 3: like you kind of like change your poses around a
Speaker 3: few times until you're comfortable with it, and then in
Speaker 3: a couple of months, so she paused, literally paused the
Speaker 3: bronze and in a couple of months it a right.
Speaker 1: So you haven't got yours yet, No, so the one
Speaker 1: you should shared wasn't.
Speaker 3: They were just like models for her to show you
Speaker 3: the colors so you can choose, like she can polish
Speaker 3: it all the way to gold, she can leave it brassy,
Speaker 3: have white or black, and then there's like this halfway
Speaker 3: point that's kind of a blue.
Speaker 1: It was just like you know when you like it's
Speaker 1: the definition of CVA.
Speaker 3: You know, when we find businesses that are doing things
Speaker 3: that are so niche and they've just someone's just had
Speaker 3: an idea that they loved and rolled with it. And
Speaker 3: then no one else is creating that for women.
Speaker 1: So cool, it's so awesome.
Speaker 3: And the messages I got from other women being like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, if I wouldn't have known about that,
Speaker 3: and I was like, if she didn't message me, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't have known about it, because like magical, because people have.
Speaker 1: Done casting for eighties before the babies like hands and
Speaker 1: feet and things. Yeah, but never for I've never been.
Speaker 1: And also this is it's like a three D photo.
Speaker 3: Instead of people do like the plaster on your belly
Speaker 3: where you like put it on the outside, but it
Speaker 3: doesn't do.
Speaker 1: Like a full bust like like ache, Like yeah, was
Speaker 1: that one of your question? That's so bad? And Nick
Speaker 1: has some questions from the audience, being Nick, I have
Speaker 1: two questions.
Speaker 3: He told me before we started recording. You don't often
Speaker 3: put your hand out to continue your responses to the Okay,
Speaker 3: come come on the couch. Tell us about the story.
Speaker 1: How many straws? How many holes in a straw? One?
Speaker 3: Two?
Speaker 1: What all? One? It's one continuing.
Speaker 3: The holes are at the end though, because the continuous
Speaker 3: thing is the tunnel, isn't it was it one hole
Speaker 3: all the way through?
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with what we've been talking about.
Speaker 1: Why did you choose this? Spect comments? You so sweet?
Speaker 3: I'm going to be like, and then you just look
Speaker 3: so happy in your body and the mold was amazing.
Speaker 1: I would say two.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, I don't know what what do
Speaker 3: you say?
Speaker 1: Because what if you?
Speaker 3: But what was your answer?
Speaker 1: Also?
Speaker 3: Why are you not wearing speed dealers?
Speaker 2: Something?
Speaker 1: If you have a hole in the wall, is that
Speaker 1: one hole of two? There's still one entry.
Speaker 3: And exit point, but the entry is a hole in
Speaker 3: the exits the hole, So you have you have two holes?
Speaker 3: Would you say, I'd say two, there's one on each side,
Speaker 3: a hole on each side of the wall. You would not?
Speaker 1: You would?
Speaker 3: I would if you put a hole in the wall,
Speaker 3: would say there's two holes in the wall. Would you say, look,
Speaker 3: I'd say no, yeah, But it's not as if I
Speaker 3: had put a hole as long as a straw, I'd
Speaker 3: say at one end there's one hole in it, the
Speaker 3: other there's another hole.
Speaker 1: So that only even hits a particular tunnel length.
Speaker 3: If there's a tunnel, then it's too hot.
Speaker 1: It's just one if the walls one being really really
Speaker 1: finish that one hole, But that's not a straw. That's
Speaker 1: like a long Does a tunnel need to be before
Speaker 1: you consider it? Two holes?
Speaker 3: I don't know, like how string would The second question
Speaker 3: what would happen?
Speaker 1: Said, yeah, my nose is a have to grow nothing
Speaker 1: as in because it's not a lie or it is
Speaker 1: a lie. If he said my nose, yeah, what happened?
Speaker 1: Does it grow?
Speaker 2: Does it not grow?
Speaker 1: Well? I think it's a lie, so it does grow.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so circular.
Speaker 1: This is my brother. No, that's a really good they're
Speaker 1: good this year? Or that? Yeah? Question that was anymore? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is try? Hashtag collab free trials ended?
Speaker 3: You're gonna subscribe if you want on the show.
Speaker 1: You've got prescriptions and extra prom.
Speaker 3: Which is he walking around talking on business calls? They
Speaker 3: were good questions. We don't have any other this year?
Speaker 3: That yeah, because we forgot that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I have another one. What is it? You didn't ask
Speaker 1: the tape of contents?
Speaker 4: We've now just don't even know what the show is about. Okay,
Speaker 4: we have moved to this way or that year?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And what was the summer what we were just talking about.
Speaker 1: I'll share the link about it.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was and the baby moon generally was lovely,
Speaker 3: and then we went back to Byron. On the way
Speaker 3: we went to Elements and we created the same photo
Speaker 3: that we had taken on our honeymoon and it was
Speaker 3: really cute. And that's the end.
Speaker 1: Ye had to speed.
Speaker 3: And summary is now we are at Yes, we're in
Speaker 3: the single ditchs before the baby's born, and we're so
Speaker 3: excited and Nick's really excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which will go we will have to go back
Speaker 1: to because you said yeah, yeah, my other one was
Speaker 1: at one point, is someone your friend? I saw this
Speaker 1: on someone? What's the point?
Speaker 3: I think it's lots of different criteria. For example, well,
Speaker 3: for you, it was like when you had when you
Speaker 3: started farting in front of me freely.
Speaker 1: That was really far in No, it was it what
Speaker 1: do you do when?
Speaker 3: As far gross, I'm going to keep that in. I
Speaker 3: didn't hear it on that. I would say, like like
Speaker 3: when you go from an acquaintance to a friend, do
Speaker 3: you mean.
Speaker 1: I get well? Like, for example, you worked with someone
Speaker 1: in retail in like ten years ago, Okay, when are
Speaker 1: you a friend? And you were good friends with them
Speaker 1: then and then now you chat to each other once
Speaker 1: every two years.
Speaker 3: If they were replied to your story, Okay.
Speaker 1: So that's someone like, oh someone I know? Was that
Speaker 1: your friend?
Speaker 3: That's a really hard one.
Speaker 1: I think automatically people would assume it's like a frequency thing.
Speaker 3: I would definitely not think that. Like, the people I'm
Speaker 3: the closest too, are not the people I say the
Speaker 3: most often. Always like you and I have a very
Speaker 3: very high frequency. But most of my closest friends and
Speaker 3: not the people I say the most because we live
Speaker 3: in different states, or because like I don't know, we
Speaker 3: just have incompatible sort of schedules.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's a really interesting one.
Speaker 1: I still yet to hear anyone's definite advances. Someone replied instead.
Speaker 3: I think it's different for each relationship.
Speaker 1: Have their phone number. Oh but I was like so
Speaker 1: many people, like I know a lot of people that
Speaker 1: don't even have people's numbers. They just do messenger DM.
Speaker 3: And it no longer is like when you remember their
Speaker 3: birthday because we all just have calendar advites and you
Speaker 3: know that kind of stuff, or know their phone number
Speaker 3: because who knows anyone's phone number off by heart? Is
Speaker 3: it when you've like, so I know someone's a really
Speaker 3: good friend if you've met their parents.
Speaker 1: You keep changing the question. The question is when is
Speaker 1: someone a friend or someone that you know. It's like
Speaker 1: the mafia where he's a friend of mine, a friend
Speaker 1: of ours? Oh are they different?
Speaker 3: Friend of mine means you're killed them.
Speaker 1: Friend means he's involved.
Speaker 3: In the business like just a friend.
Speaker 1: No, anyway, I can't subscribe to their premium. Different a
Speaker 1: friend of ours or a friend of mine, different parts
Speaker 1: We paid for the non adversion.
Speaker 3: I reckon, do you know?
Speaker 1: I reckon?
Speaker 3: It's just like a feeling of whether how much you
Speaker 3: like them, like how much you click?
Speaker 1: And then as you were saying, a good friend, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the what's what's the landmark? What's the milestone?
Speaker 3: I think one of the markets is like if you've
Speaker 3: been to each other's houses, oh yes, yep, or if
Speaker 3: you've done an activity if your work colleagues is if
Speaker 3: you've done something.
Speaker 1: That wasn't work related, Yeah, that makes you a friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like if you went out for coffee and it
Speaker 3: wasn't a work coffee, Yeah, what would you What.
Speaker 1: Would you call that person that I worked with in
Speaker 1: retail ten years ago and was really close then, But then.
Speaker 3: I'd say I'd say, like a really old friend.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fair and old.
Speaker 3: If they're like someone you have been in touch with
Speaker 3: as much recently, I'd say one of my friends from
Speaker 3: back in the day. I actually say friends from back
Speaker 3: in the day quite a bit.
Speaker 1: What about if they're like, you worked in retail and
Speaker 1: they were a customer and you chat it often, and
Speaker 1: then you like attitude, and then you went on data
Speaker 1: Yeah no, and then you add on social media and
Speaker 1: then like you that's how you kick I'd be like,
Speaker 1: that's someone you would you just say Facebook friends? Yeah,
Speaker 1: my Facebook friend. I just say someone I used to
Speaker 1: work with. I don't know, depends, it's hard. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about I was thinking about that because I was
Speaker 1: trying to tell my housemaid a story about some like
Speaker 1: this person, and I was like, wait, do I say
Speaker 1: like someone I know or my friend? Because I couldn't
Speaker 1: establish I think I.
Speaker 3: Think my default is often unless they're seriously someone I
Speaker 3: haven't had a lot of connection with, even back at
Speaker 3: the time when we were working together, whatever the situation was,
Speaker 3: I would just say my friend. Yeah, I'd just say
Speaker 3: my friend who used to work with. I wouldn't specify, like,
Speaker 3: but they are now no longer an acquaintance on the
Speaker 3: scheme of close meess like I been bumped down a
Speaker 3: couple of Yeah, like I probably wouldn't. I think I
Speaker 3: probably only have a couple of I think we all
Speaker 3: only have a few words of categories. There's like one
Speaker 3: of my besties, one of my good friends, one of
Speaker 3: my friends, and then there's like colleagues or someone I knew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good, Well, I don't think that's a.
Speaker 3: Very interesting segment, just saying.
Speaker 1: You hear me.
Speaker 3: Oh my, I's been thirty three minutes already of just
Speaker 3: absolute trash. Sorry, guys, welcome to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Well we can go back. Well, next seg ye, as
Speaker 1: according to the table of contents, is.
Speaker 3: From the neighborhood the yable of contents.
Speaker 2: Oh no, this is.
Speaker 1: Okay. Do you think that our next episode should be questioned?
Speaker 3: Should this just be like welcome by No, okay, I'll
Speaker 3: have to make an executive decision, as this is the
Speaker 3: neighborhood of content yabel like table. Sorry, we're doing another
Speaker 3: questions next to you. Yeah, okay, we did put up
Speaker 3: this pole. We have to we do have to respond
Speaker 3: the other thing we did.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we've done so much we went to
Speaker 1: the tennis that was that was yesterday, and we still forgot.
Speaker 1: I know, I have never done I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever surprised. Have I ever surprised you? Well, I was
Speaker 1: telling my partner. I was like, well, I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I've truly ever been from the feeling of being surprised.
Speaker 1: I have people have surprised me in the past many times,
Speaker 1: but I don't know the feeling of truly like having
Speaker 1: no idea. I feel like this may be my first
Speaker 1: time that I always like, we always do random surprises,
Speaker 1: which it's really cute to do these like friend friendship
Speaker 1: date nights. Yeah, that's cue, and we'd have like some idea.
Speaker 1: Actually shook me to this live show once and I
Speaker 1: had no idea where we're going, and that was really cool.
Speaker 1: But this one was like I just took me by
Speaker 1: surprise as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you also didn't even know that we were
Speaker 3: catching up or seeing each other, like our date.
Speaker 1: Nights with Loza and I, who is not my partner
Speaker 1: but one of my best ways people we used to
Speaker 1: think we were together.
Speaker 3: Category would be one of my one of my best
Speaker 3: category one okay great.
Speaker 1: One a one a okay, cool, but this one I
Speaker 1: genuinely like, I just it took me my surprise when
Speaker 1: expecting it wasn't. You know. Sometimes it's like people like
Speaker 1: save this date and we're doing a surprise. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: different to like truly being like you had absolutely well.
Speaker 3: Also usually like you, you've surprised me a lot of times,
Speaker 3: but you've said keep like it's often often for our
Speaker 3: birthdays and it's like on your burday you have to
Speaker 3: decide are you free even Yeah, so you kind of
Speaker 3: know something's happening together, whereas because of your actual birthday
Speaker 3: being like a whole week away and you didn't know
Speaker 3: when and we.
Speaker 1: Hadn't even like so exactly. Essentially, what happened was it
Speaker 1: was a beautiful day and I was just like chilling
Speaker 1: at home, and then my partner was like, let's do
Speaker 1: something like cute tonight. Just be ready by five. And
Speaker 1: this is not abnormal for either of us to Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gone on spontaneous and.
Speaker 3: The weather was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we wrote. She's like, I know you're like riding,
Speaker 1: so let's ride somewhere. Just take me to this because
Speaker 1: you're not from Melbourne. She's like, take me to this place.
Speaker 1: And they'll know the rest of the way. You know.
Speaker 3: We got to this place where a long.
Speaker 1: Time ago, I was like, this is probably like two
Speaker 1: a year ago for your picnic spot. I was like, nobody,
Speaker 1: this most underrated picnic spock is. You get this beautiful
Speaker 1: view of the city.
Speaker 3: It is a really good picnic. It's a normous picnic
Speaker 3: spots so good.
Speaker 1: People normally go to the town, which is beautiful, but
Speaker 1: it's a little bit further out sometimes, whereas if you
Speaker 1: want something who's like really close to the CBD, you
Speaker 1: can go here.
Speaker 3: It's a fringe of the tent like it's kind of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of Alexandria Gardens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's what it's called Monument Park. Monument Park,
Speaker 3: which I now know because she dropped a pin yeah,
Speaker 3: and was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so how do you picnic? And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the surprises is so sweet and she was
Speaker 1: like pack your dogs. I was like okay, and she's like,
Speaker 1: do not probe, and I was like, I swear my life,
Speaker 1: I'm not probing because I was like, let's go shoe shopping.
Speaker 1: Let's you wanted to go to shoe shopping. And then
Speaker 1: she's like yeah, let's just get there first for this
Speaker 1: activity and then and then we'll go after. And in
Speaker 1: my brain, I truly thought we were going to go
Speaker 1: shoe shopping after she had all this food. And we
Speaker 1: were like sitting there and it was really cute, and
Speaker 1: I just gave her the most perfect situation because I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was like lying on her lap
Speaker 1: facing the opposite direction for you.
Speaker 3: And which actually you were facing me. And I had
Speaker 3: to walk around the rose bushes. Okay, well, I ham
Speaker 3: to behind your field division.
Speaker 1: And I was just like sitting there looking at accommodation
Speaker 1: and I could see her filming and still no clue,
Speaker 1: and I just thought she was filming me looking at
Speaker 1: accommodation for some silly reason.
Speaker 3: I don't know, No, like just why you just mensage
Speaker 3: to me to saying like something about seeing each other
Speaker 3: the next day, and I was like, cute, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because I'm over and I'll see the dog. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were going to bring room in to the aunties. And
Speaker 1: so just zero, just like a minus one hundred idea.
Speaker 1: And I had said i'd watch the men semifinals that before,
Speaker 1: and my brain, I said, oh, I've never been to
Speaker 1: a Grand final actually, and I was telling my partners.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, the Women's Final starts to seven thirty.
Speaker 1: She was like, we'll get you back home for that
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, no rush, but if
Speaker 1: we make it, that'd be as whatever. And then low
Speaker 1: in the hold, I'm lying there and this high pitched
Speaker 1: girl voice was like doing and I was like, shot
Speaker 1: to the core. I didn't even hear what you were saying.
Speaker 1: I was just excited to see you and if they're
Speaker 1: came for the picture. Truly, I truly was like, why
Speaker 1: is she so you had like heels on? I was like,
Speaker 1: why she dressed up to crash our picnic? But that's sweet.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think there could have been any other
Speaker 1: thing happening. I just thought you were joining our picnic.
Speaker 1: And then you'd said some words, and I still didn't
Speaker 1: understand what you were saying because I was still thinking.
Speaker 1: And then all I heard was I'm taking it to
Speaker 1: the Women's Final, and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, and then you clapped like a five year
Speaker 3: old extended finger clapping jumping.
Speaker 1: I was like, I've got my clothes. I was wearing
Speaker 1: like Darrow clothes. And then they were both had planned
Speaker 1: and outfit and packed it in her bag and they
Speaker 1: even brought like the hairs. That was was.
Speaker 3: Like, she was so good thought out.
Speaker 1: It was the best. We had so much fun in
Speaker 1: the water. We're just like because we hadn't seen each
Speaker 1: other since pre baby moon and that was the first time,
Speaker 1: so it was like excitement plus catch up plus this
Speaker 1: VIP experience.
Speaker 3: It was so lately to got to be your plus one,
Speaker 3: to have you as my plus one.
Speaker 1: As my charitable deed for twenty twenty four is to
Speaker 1: bring sir to something she's otherwise would never have been
Speaker 1: able to experience.
Speaker 3: It was really fun. We had such a fun night.
Speaker 1: It was so fun. We just laughed a lot, a lot,
Speaker 1: yeah a lot anyway, So yeah, that was the other
Speaker 1: recent update that's happened.
Speaker 3: I feel like lots more has happened and I can't
Speaker 3: really remember what the update is. But welcome to twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four everyone. I hope you were all having a
Speaker 3: wonderful start to the year. And if it's been like
Speaker 3: a little bit slow and clunky, I feel like we
Speaker 3: put a lot of pressure on ourselves to be like
Speaker 3: news resolutions like I want to be a whole new
Speaker 3: person by January two.
Speaker 1: And it's like, nah, it's it's okay. It's also into
Speaker 1: it came not to have thought about it by January
Speaker 1: one totally.
Speaker 3: The year is very it's a.
Speaker 1: Rush to the Philly line, but to watch the fish
Speaker 1: finish line just to get to Christmas and then the
Speaker 1: Year's Eve and then yeah, somehow you meant to have
Speaker 1: slowed down enough to reflect on your year and then
Speaker 1: plan for the next. More often than not, I don't
Speaker 1: think I really truly have a grasp on what the
Speaker 1: year is going to be until because January is such
Speaker 1: a busy time of like holiday period, and the New
Speaker 1: Year's happens, and then I.
Speaker 3: Would actually love to go back to our New Year's
Speaker 3: episode every year and see how many times I've said
Speaker 3: I think that New Years should be fed worm like
Speaker 3: every year I reckon I say that, like, just be
Speaker 3: kind to yourself resolutions, because it's true, like I feel
Speaker 3: like we put a lot of pressure on this whole
Speaker 3: goal setting for the year and what is your vision
Speaker 3: for this coming twelve months? And it's like, mate, it
Speaker 3: takes me like to first to be able to stringer
Speaker 3: sentence together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't tell you what my intention's on. I
Speaker 1: still Yeah, I haven't thought about it. I just haven't
Speaker 1: been able to really like articulate grasp on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: while it's a vibe as opposed to it, it's a
Speaker 1: general vibe. Okay. Last part of this is questions from
Speaker 1: the community community. These are just random as usual. His
Speaker 1: first question is would you trust and with babysitting duties
Speaker 1: of little bear? Of course, is the best best babysitter?
Speaker 3: No, genuinely, you are so good with kids, like they
Speaker 3: you're just so good with them, and like I think
Speaker 3: part of it is having so many siblings and like
Speaker 3: you've probably a younger brother who is way younger than you,
Speaker 3: and you're just you're so at ease with children in
Speaker 3: a way that like lots of people aren't so one
Speaker 3: you will be like, what is the crackling? Is that
Speaker 3: my phone?
Speaker 1: Well? I thought your phone didn't have that issue, so
Speaker 1: we could ask me, No, it does, but whatever, Okay, Yes.
Speaker 3: And will be babysitting all the time, And conveniently we
Speaker 3: already have a bedroom for you, so you can just come.
Speaker 1: And slip over and look after our little bit. I
Speaker 1: would be severely disappointed, did if you thought I was
Speaker 1: offering out of polite so I get very frustrated.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I say that to my friends you love like
Speaker 3: you literally enjoy I love it to your friend's children,
Speaker 3: and like, I feel like you're going to be his
Speaker 3: kangar cricket teacher.
Speaker 1: You're going to be in charge of.
Speaker 3: I was kidding, but you're going to be in charge
Speaker 3: of his outdoor education.
Speaker 1: He's already got waterproof sandals, waterproofs.
Speaker 3: That was like the first thing you bought him was
Speaker 3: like activity sandals. Yeah, that's so cute.
Speaker 1: But I'm very excited. But yes, definitely should be babysitting.
Speaker 1: Someone has said, I think you had this question before,
Speaker 1: was actually the same person. Have you picked out godparents? Do?
Speaker 3: I answered? I think I answered that, And I said, no,
Speaker 3: I haven't yet, and I don't know if we and
Speaker 3: we hadn't decided. Yeah, if we do like one cup
Speaker 3: like one of each, one godmother, one godfather, which is
Speaker 3: what my brother and I have, we have and they're
Speaker 3: not necessarily a couple, like we've got separate individuals who
Speaker 3: are godmother and godfather, or if we'll just have like
Speaker 3: a big village of people.
Speaker 1: And do you think are you going to decide that
Speaker 1: just before? I don't know I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think probably it's not as traditional for us, like
Speaker 3: it's not we're not sort of I know, in like
Speaker 3: the Grief or Greek Orthodox faith, it's a really really
Speaker 3: big part of Christening, and it's I don't think we'll
Speaker 3: be as formal about it. So I think it'll just
Speaker 3: develop yea, or it won't. Like we're not sort of,
Speaker 3: we haven't really thought about it.
Speaker 1: Next question is what advice would you give a give
Speaker 1: about something give to someone looking to getting into the
Speaker 1: MC or speaker space.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great one. Someone else asked me this
Speaker 3: the other day. I think the really big thing is you.
Speaker 3: It's one of those industries where people have to think
Speaker 3: of you for those roles and they only know that
Speaker 3: if you're kind of doing them already. So it sounds
Speaker 3: like a bit of a vicious cycle because if you're
Speaker 3: not in it, it's really hard to get seen doing it,
Speaker 3: and then that's hard to generate more gigs. So many
Speaker 3: of the jobs that I get are from other jobs
Speaker 3: that I've done, and someone's been there and they've seen you,
Speaker 3: and they think of you for when they're organizing something similar.
Speaker 3: So I think the best thing that I did early
Speaker 3: on is when I wanted to break into it is
Speaker 3: do as much practicing. It doesn't matter how small the
Speaker 3: gig is or how big it is, or how much
Speaker 3: it's something that you don't necessarily want to be the
Speaker 3: kind of event you always do, but just get in
Speaker 3: front of people, do as much for free as you can,
Speaker 3: like even if you want to turn it into your career.
Speaker 3: I was on like ten minute panels for what when
Speaker 3: we had much I made, and I would do a
Speaker 3: panel a week that none of them were like paid
Speaker 3: speaking gigs. I wouldn't have called myself a speaker. But
Speaker 3: until I did those, no one knew who you were,
Speaker 3: or if they did, they didn't know that you were
Speaker 3: willing to speak, or that you enjoyed it, or that
Speaker 3: you even did it. So it's very much something that
Speaker 3: you fall into, but you fall into it on purpose.
Speaker 3: But you don't just one day announce I'm an MC
Speaker 3: and then people come to you with MC gigs. You
Speaker 3: have to start getting onto the scene and meeting the
Speaker 3: people who make the decisions and getting in front of
Speaker 3: the brands, And that usually starts with much more minor roles,
Speaker 3: like on a panel of multiple people. Then a smaller panel.
Speaker 3: Then you might be an individual speaker and then you
Speaker 3: do keynotes and then you kind of ohh but it
Speaker 3: takes a while. But putting yourself out there, which is
Speaker 3: usually awkward and a bit embarrassing, is but getting over
Speaker 3: that and just having a go is definitely how I
Speaker 3: did it.
Speaker 1: But even smaller scale stuff like I did a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff when I had paper planes where people would
Speaker 1: just ask me to come to a school and do
Speaker 1: it to their classroom. Yeah, and it was just like
Speaker 1: talk about your business or whatever, or like being an alumni. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like to ask what you're doing, or like join
Speaker 1: a zoom call or something. Yeah, And that's such good practice.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And then they're like, oh, I didn't realize.
Speaker 1: And then you share it and people will realize that
Speaker 1: you do it, and then.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's the other thing. A lot of people will
Speaker 3: do a lot of gigs and then they won't share
Speaker 3: any of the content from it. So it's like other
Speaker 3: people who might be looking for someone to speak at
Speaker 3: their next event, don't didn't see that you'd done one
Speaker 3: last week, and that you've done it to a crowd
Speaker 3: of five hundred and that's the same amount of people
Speaker 3: who they want you to speak in front of. So again,
Speaker 3: it's awkward, it's uncomfortable at the start. It's a bit
Speaker 3: of a bit of extra work to go, Okay, I've
Speaker 3: got to remember to take a photo when I get there,
Speaker 3: or get someone in the audience to send me a photo.
Speaker 3: But that's the way that it's kind of like you're
Speaker 3: your own billboard these days. There's no like yellow pages
Speaker 3: of mcs. All you have is your own platforms for
Speaker 3: people to find out what you do. So you have
Speaker 3: to intentionally show that that's what you do.
Speaker 1: Do you remember what your first MC in gig was.
Speaker 1: I know what my first speaking gig was. That was
Speaker 1: the Wellness Festival, first major one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my first like I was a speaker
Speaker 3: rather than I just had been invited to be part
Speaker 3: of another event and there were twenty of us sort
Speaker 3: of sharing bites of stories. This was like a keynote
Speaker 3: and it was a big crowd and it was the
Speaker 3: first time I'd been called a speaker, and.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was so nervous.
Speaker 3: It was like the biggest thing that I just I
Speaker 3: didn't sleep for days. But that I remember it so distinctly,
Speaker 3: and the organizer Lauren. I still say to her all
Speaker 3: the time, like, you took such a big gamble on
Speaker 3: me because I hadn't done it before. But that kicked
Speaker 3: off everything because no one knew that I spoke before
Speaker 3: because I hadn't until that day. And then now a
Speaker 3: lot of the clients I still speak for, like remember
Speaker 3: the Wellness festival that day when you did that keynote,
Speaker 3: And That's how I met Lisa Messenger, It's how I
Speaker 3: met Rachel Finch, It's how I met Julie.
Speaker 1: All of the first guests for czaight in that first
Speaker 1: ten episodes pretty much I met at that event. Awesome.
Speaker 3: So it's very situational, but like that was what five
Speaker 3: years ago, So it's also bit by bit chipping away
Speaker 3: as well, Like it was another probably four another, probably
Speaker 3: three years before I actually em seed an event and
Speaker 3: was like in charge of hosting the whole thing versus
Speaker 3: turning up as a speaker.
Speaker 1: So it's gradual. Oh my god, guys, So.
Speaker 3: Not only had like so many false starts to this episode,
Speaker 3: but we just kept talking for another like fifteen minutes
Speaker 3: and then realized we couldn't see the screen because we're
Speaker 3: wearing Speedo sunglasses. For this episode indoors for some reason
Speaker 3: that the recorder had stopped recording because the card was full,
Speaker 3: and then three other cards were full, and then we
Speaker 3: kept trying to restart again and now have totally lost
Speaker 3: steam to finish the episode. We're going to end and
Speaker 3: we're gonna call it. The table of contents has decided.
Speaker 3: There are no more contents for today's in forty eight.
Speaker 1: Minutes longer, the table is no longer.
Speaker 3: We made it through three questions. I think that people.
Speaker 1: We made it through two questions and I didn't even
Speaker 1: finish the answer and our video cut off, so we
Speaker 1: don't oh.
Speaker 3: And then when we went to check the video after,
Speaker 3: we were like, well, ship, the audio is gone, so
Speaker 3: the video probably will be too. It's had optimized storage,
Speaker 3: and I don't know when it stopped recording.
Speaker 1: Probably stopped recording it. We suck.
Speaker 3: We're not even going to make it through, which we
Speaker 3: didn't in the end. So we will be back next
Speaker 3: week with our Oh. Actually, I can't even promise that
Speaker 3: we'll be back at TVC six months. The next six
Speaker 3: to twelve months, whenever the next episode comes out, we
Speaker 3: will finish it answer questions, which means that you.
Speaker 1: Now have more question.
Speaker 3: You now have more time to submit chaotic fun question.
Speaker 1: We also well this feeding of glasses for no reason.
Speaker 1: If that thing wasn't recording the the.
Speaker 3: Video, my god. And then the speedo's are the only
Speaker 3: reason why I didn't see that it's stop recording because
Speaker 3: I can't see red I can't see red color.
Speaker 1: They're not speedos.
Speaker 3: Speed dealers. Yeah, we call them speedos babies. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: people call speed dealers speedos. Really yeah, people as in me. No,
Speaker 3: My dear friend mattcha Abino, who introduced who I wanted
Speaker 3: to Antarctica with, introduced me to speed dealers and he
Speaker 3: and he's like, he's even younger than.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm in front of my time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to end it and turn back. We
Speaker 3: need to I'm cutting.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it anymore.