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Speaker 3: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders

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Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on From Mama Mia. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to This Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura

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Speaker 3: Brodney and I'm Tina propos and on the show today. Well,

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Speaker 3: Fridays are a very special time here at the Spill

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Speaker 3: because it's where we get to deep dive into films

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Speaker 3: and TV shows that we love. We used to try

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Speaker 3: and group them together in a bit of a deep dive,

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Speaker 3: and today we are doing the best movies to watch

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Speaker 3: after a breakup.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm no stranger to that.

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Speaker 1: I love to sync my teeth into a binge marathon

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Speaker 1: of breakup movies. But I guess we all have our

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Speaker 1: own idea of what a breakup movie is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So again, we love rules here on the Spill.

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Speaker 3: It's also so funny because for these Friday deep dives,

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Speaker 3: we usually tie it to a big new slasher has

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Speaker 3: romantic comedies. So when we actually you suggested best breakup

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Speaker 2: Surely someone somewhere as having a breakup.

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Speaker 3: And so then in our production meeting, we were like,

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Speaker 3: know what, breakup's happen all year round, all the time.

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Speaker 3: classifying breakup movies as a movie where the central character

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Speaker 3: of getting a bit more nitty gritty, where they have

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Speaker 3: my favorite thing in a breakup movie, that's an unhealthy

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Speaker 3: way to look at it. So that is how we're

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Speaker 1: Yes, So one of my favorites to watch is Celeste

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Speaker 1: and Jesse Forever.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if a lot of people have seen this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's got Rashida Jones and Andy Samberg, you know,

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Speaker 1: But we quickly find out that they've been divorced for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what's really kind of special about

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Speaker 3: we have that in Combat. And so that's a great

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Speaker 2: Because I thought that was great about the movie.

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Speaker 1: It shows that it is never really someone's fault and

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Speaker 1: Like I can recall so many conversations with friends where

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Speaker 1: I think it is hard because sometimes people's actions and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Oh that's a takeaway from

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that one iconic movie and also so

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Speaker 1: I think you have to be ready to accept a

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Speaker 2: Breakup Groundbreaking your Nose.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, but like it does what it

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Speaker 1: feels forced and it doesn't feel like I think we

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00:18:11,824 --> 00:18:14,704
Speaker 1: need to remind people that sometimes things just don't work.

438
00:18:14,744 --> 00:18:17,384
Speaker 1: And I think so often I even have to check

439
00:18:17,384 --> 00:18:21,824
Speaker 1: myself sometimes when something is not working or something's difficult

440
00:18:22,264 --> 00:18:25,064
Speaker 1: when I'm dating, because I think we're taught to make

441
00:18:25,144 --> 00:18:26,384
Speaker 1: something difficult work, and if.

442
00:18:26,344 --> 00:18:29,344
Speaker 2: You're in love, it will just figure itself out in

443
00:18:29,384 --> 00:18:29,624
Speaker 2: the air.

444
00:18:30,304 --> 00:18:32,064
Speaker 3: I think it's what so many movies take, even like

445
00:18:32,104 --> 00:18:36,304
Speaker 3: the Notebook Your Mum's for a breakup movie, is that

446
00:18:36,384 --> 00:18:37,744
Speaker 3: you kind of have this thing like, oh, they'll go

447
00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:40,304
Speaker 3: all this tumultuous stuff and they'll have these fights and

448
00:18:40,304 --> 00:18:41,904
Speaker 3: they won't be right for each other, but at the

449
00:18:42,024 --> 00:18:43,464
Speaker 3: end of the day, they're in love and they will

450
00:18:43,464 --> 00:18:44,584
Speaker 3: and it'll be work together.

451
00:18:44,704 --> 00:18:47,184
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I tell myself, and it's not exactly.

452
00:18:47,224 --> 00:18:49,024
Speaker 3: And that's why I think sometimes the breakup is like

453
00:18:49,024 --> 00:18:51,344
Speaker 3: actually a good wake up calls a movie because it

454
00:18:51,424 --> 00:18:54,464
Speaker 3: sets itself up as an old school Hollywood romance, and

455
00:18:54,624 --> 00:18:56,584
Speaker 3: as you're watching the movie, you're waiting for them to

456
00:18:56,584 --> 00:18:59,544
Speaker 3: get back together. Yeah, like that iconic scene where Jennifer Aniston,

457
00:18:59,584 --> 00:19:01,704
Speaker 3: because he's got like this beautiful body, like walks naked

458
00:19:01,704 --> 00:19:03,384
Speaker 3: through the apartment and all of a sudden, he's because

459
00:19:03,384 --> 00:19:05,824
Speaker 3: they're living together still and he's like so enamored with

460
00:19:05,864 --> 00:19:07,704
Speaker 3: her and stuff. And then they have these little meet

461
00:19:07,704 --> 00:19:09,904
Speaker 3: cute things when they're broken up and you just think

462
00:19:09,904 --> 00:19:12,704
Speaker 3: they're gonna back together. The whole movie is kind of

463
00:19:12,704 --> 00:19:15,544
Speaker 3: worth it for this end scene where months and months

464
00:19:15,544 --> 00:19:17,424
Speaker 3: and months after they break up, they meet on the

465
00:19:17,464 --> 00:19:19,664
Speaker 3: street just walking past each other and they stop and

466
00:19:19,664 --> 00:19:23,384
Speaker 3: have this conversation and it's this really beautifully written, beautifully

467
00:19:23,424 --> 00:19:26,664
Speaker 3: acted scene where it's these two people who are so

468
00:19:26,784 --> 00:19:29,904
Speaker 3: clearly have shared this life, they have so much love,

469
00:19:30,384 --> 00:19:32,184
Speaker 3: and they're just looking at each other with this like

470
00:19:32,784 --> 00:19:35,184
Speaker 3: we'll never get back together as they have this little

471
00:19:35,264 --> 00:19:38,504
Speaker 3: quick catch up conversation and kind of share like where

472
00:19:38,544 --> 00:19:40,664
Speaker 3: their lives have gone since they've broke up, and like

473
00:19:40,984 --> 00:19:43,464
Speaker 3: these huge successes that they've had that they worked on

474
00:19:43,544 --> 00:19:45,784
Speaker 3: together and then they didn't actually share and the success

475
00:19:45,824 --> 00:19:47,624
Speaker 3: because they were broken up and all this stuff, and

476
00:19:47,624 --> 00:19:49,224
Speaker 3: then they just walk away from each other. And it

477
00:19:49,264 --> 00:19:50,944
Speaker 3: is this thing of like, you have this life with

478
00:19:51,024 --> 00:19:53,904
Speaker 3: someone and then it can be gone. But also it's

479
00:19:53,904 --> 00:19:56,224
Speaker 3: the right decision. I think it's such a great thing.

480
00:19:56,424 --> 00:19:59,504
Speaker 1: That's really sweet, and I think people often just want

481
00:19:59,544 --> 00:20:03,784
Speaker 1: to forget forget people when they move on, but I

482
00:20:03,784 --> 00:20:05,544
Speaker 1: think it just shows you know, you can still have

483
00:20:05,624 --> 00:20:08,904
Speaker 1: love for someone and it not be your person at

484
00:20:08,944 --> 00:20:09,624
Speaker 1: the end of the day.

485
00:20:10,064 --> 00:20:12,384
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't thought about this movie.

486
00:20:12,504 --> 00:20:15,024
Speaker 2: I'm getting emotional conversations.

487
00:20:15,944 --> 00:20:17,784
Speaker 3: Oh man, I just shout out to anyone who's listening

488
00:20:17,824 --> 00:20:19,944
Speaker 3: this who is going through a breakup right now, like

489
00:20:19,984 --> 00:20:20,584
Speaker 3: you're gonna be.

490
00:20:20,544 --> 00:20:22,744
Speaker 2: Okay, it is this round to watch these movies.

491
00:20:22,824 --> 00:20:26,624
Speaker 1: Yeah, the movies that we have mentioned today, though, are

492
00:20:26,944 --> 00:20:28,304
Speaker 1: those realistic endings?

493
00:20:28,464 --> 00:20:29,944
Speaker 3: Yeah, as we said.

494
00:20:29,744 --> 00:20:31,344
Speaker 2: We don't want to see anyone getting back together.

495
00:20:31,544 --> 00:20:34,144
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, we're just here for a bit of some

496
00:20:34,184 --> 00:20:38,264
Speaker 3: time cure exactly, man. But yeah, The Breakup. What a

497
00:20:38,304 --> 00:20:39,784
Speaker 3: great movie. What else do you have on your list?

498
00:20:39,944 --> 00:20:41,464
Speaker 2: Okay, next on my list.

499
00:20:41,584 --> 00:20:45,784
Speaker 1: I think this one translates to breakups, but also just

500
00:20:45,944 --> 00:20:47,104
Speaker 1: rejection in.

501
00:20:47,024 --> 00:20:49,624
Speaker 2: General on the dating world. It's he's just not that

502
00:20:49,664 --> 00:20:50,064
Speaker 2: into you.

503
00:20:50,304 --> 00:20:53,864
Speaker 3: Oh my god. That movie also starring Jennifer Aniston. I know,

504
00:20:54,024 --> 00:20:55,544
Speaker 3: we just love to have a breakup movie.

505
00:20:55,584 --> 00:20:58,544
Speaker 1: He's really sweet in the movie as well. I think

506
00:20:58,584 --> 00:21:01,824
Speaker 1: everybody has seen this movie. It's iconic and it follows

507
00:21:01,864 --> 00:21:05,704
Speaker 1: the lives of these interconnected characters in the dating world

508
00:21:05,704 --> 00:21:09,984
Speaker 1: as they're navigating relationships breakups, and it's a real honest

509
00:21:10,064 --> 00:21:13,424
Speaker 1: look at the fact that it does what it says

510
00:21:13,424 --> 00:21:15,744
Speaker 1: on the tin, He's just not that into you. You know,

511
00:21:15,784 --> 00:21:17,864
Speaker 1: if someone isn't calling you, if someone isn't texting you,

512
00:21:17,904 --> 00:21:19,864
Speaker 1: if someone isn't chasing you or giving you a commitment,

513
00:21:20,304 --> 00:21:22,344
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they're probably not interested

514
00:21:22,384 --> 00:21:24,744
Speaker 1: and it could be time to cut them loose.

515
00:21:24,784 --> 00:21:27,864
Speaker 2: And that is essentially the premise of the whole movie.

516
00:21:27,944 --> 00:21:31,544
Speaker 1: And I think it is really great because it's hard

517
00:21:31,584 --> 00:21:34,224
Speaker 1: to have self respect sometimes in this it's hard out

518
00:21:34,224 --> 00:21:37,424
Speaker 1: here in modern dating, and it's just a big fat

519
00:21:37,504 --> 00:21:39,704
Speaker 1: reminder that you need to be honest.

520
00:21:40,984 --> 00:21:43,024
Speaker 2: You need to be honest and check yourself.

521
00:21:43,424 --> 00:21:45,664
Speaker 3: It's so funny because that movie, like it's gone back

522
00:21:45,664 --> 00:21:47,864
Speaker 3: and forth the conversation of like good movie, bad movies.

523
00:21:47,904 --> 00:21:49,944
Speaker 3: Some people love it, some people hate it. But that

524
00:21:50,024 --> 00:21:51,984
Speaker 3: kind of idea if he's just not that into you,

525
00:21:52,464 --> 00:21:55,144
Speaker 3: is so universal. It's still like really holds up today.

526
00:21:55,344 --> 00:21:57,664
Speaker 3: That movie. It comes from a Sex and the City episode, right.

527
00:21:58,064 --> 00:22:01,424
Speaker 1: It comes from a book. It's like a self help book.

528
00:22:01,544 --> 00:22:03,264
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I've got the right timing here, but

529
00:22:03,344 --> 00:22:05,024
Speaker 3: it was in a Sex and the City episode, Like

530
00:22:05,024 --> 00:22:08,104
Speaker 3: it was a big theme of the episode where Berger

531
00:22:08,224 --> 00:22:11,464
Speaker 3: tells Carrie's boyfriend times it would have been Seas tells

532
00:22:11,584 --> 00:22:13,584
Speaker 3: Miranda like, he's just not that into you, and all

533
00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:17,224
Speaker 3: the girls, Charlotte, Samantha, they're horrified, and Miranda's like, wait

534
00:22:17,304 --> 00:22:19,504
Speaker 3: a second, I'm intrigued. Tell me more. And he was

535
00:22:19,544 --> 00:22:21,304
Speaker 3: like if he wanted to, he would, He's just not

536
00:22:21,384 --> 00:22:24,544
Speaker 3: that into you. It's fine, you're great, You'll find someone great.

537
00:22:24,584 --> 00:22:27,224
Speaker 3: And then Miranda really takes that and runs with it

538
00:22:27,384 --> 00:22:29,304
Speaker 3: to the point where she overhears these two girls in

539
00:22:29,304 --> 00:22:31,424
Speaker 3: the park when she's having lunch talking about this guy

540
00:22:31,464 --> 00:22:32,984
Speaker 3: like he's so busy. He's not calling me back. He's

541
00:22:32,984 --> 00:22:35,024
Speaker 3: so busy with work, and she's like, goes over and

542
00:22:35,024 --> 00:22:36,824
Speaker 3: she's like, I'm gonna give you some advice that changes

543
00:22:36,824 --> 00:22:39,024
Speaker 3: your life. He's just not that into you. And she

544
00:22:39,064 --> 00:22:41,504
Speaker 3: thinks she's spreading like the feminist gospel. She walks away

545
00:22:41,504 --> 00:22:42,504
Speaker 3: and they're like, what a bitch.

546
00:22:42,624 --> 00:22:45,024
Speaker 1: But it honestly is though, And I think it just

547
00:22:45,344 --> 00:22:48,144
Speaker 1: I love how the movie opens and is this little

548
00:22:48,184 --> 00:22:48,864
Speaker 1: girl in the.

549
00:22:48,864 --> 00:22:52,344
Speaker 2: Park and a boy pushes her over, bullies her.

550
00:22:52,184 --> 00:22:55,144
Speaker 1: And her mum consoles her and says, don't worry, sweetie,

551
00:22:55,184 --> 00:22:57,704
Speaker 1: like he just likes you. Yeah, And I think that

552
00:22:57,864 --> 00:23:00,144
Speaker 1: is something you kind of go through most of your life.

553
00:23:00,184 --> 00:23:02,664
Speaker 1: I think in high school that was definitely a conversation

554
00:23:02,824 --> 00:23:03,984
Speaker 1: I probably had at one point.

555
00:23:04,224 --> 00:23:06,584
Speaker 3: I think that's what all little girls get told. I mean,

556
00:23:06,584 --> 00:23:08,344
Speaker 3: maybe not now as much, but I think that was

557
00:23:08,344 --> 00:23:10,504
Speaker 3: such a thing. It just, oh, he just likes you.

558
00:23:10,504 --> 00:23:12,984
Speaker 3: He just be mean to you to like yeah.

559
00:23:12,584 --> 00:23:15,144
Speaker 1: And it's the excuses that we make along the way.

560
00:23:15,304 --> 00:23:18,024
Speaker 1: And I even't find myself doing this with my friends

561
00:23:18,064 --> 00:23:18,464
Speaker 1: as well.

562
00:23:18,544 --> 00:23:20,424
Speaker 2: If they haven't texted you back, you're like, don't worry.

563
00:23:20,464 --> 00:23:22,304
Speaker 2: He's probably just really busy, but.

564
00:23:22,384 --> 00:23:24,464
Speaker 3: The things we invent, like, yeah.

565
00:23:24,304 --> 00:23:26,824
Speaker 2: Oh, I've got a whole plot lines going on.

566
00:23:26,904 --> 00:23:28,944
Speaker 3: He's so busy, he's lost his phone. He didn't see

567
00:23:28,944 --> 00:23:30,824
Speaker 3: my message. He messaged me, but I didn't see because

568
00:23:30,784 --> 00:23:32,544
Speaker 3: I don't know which platform it was on. And then

569
00:23:32,544 --> 00:23:34,024
Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, I guess if you wanted to hit

570
00:23:34,184 --> 00:23:37,504
Speaker 3: would And that's why it stands through all of this time.

571
00:23:37,704 --> 00:23:41,024
Speaker 1: And I feel like, I think when I was younger

572
00:23:41,064 --> 00:23:44,864
Speaker 1: watching it, I thought, oh, how desperate. That just feels

573
00:23:44,904 --> 00:23:48,304
Speaker 1: like a fiction world, And then actually going into the

574
00:23:48,384 --> 00:23:52,624
Speaker 1: dating world, I realized that it's so close to the truth.

575
00:23:52,704 --> 00:23:54,664
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's going to be something that

576
00:23:54,704 --> 00:23:55,464
Speaker 1: goes away.

577
00:23:55,464 --> 00:23:58,064
Speaker 3: No, even though the movie does kind of like they

578
00:23:58,104 --> 00:24:00,304
Speaker 3: give you that happy ending, But I love how something

579
00:24:00,344 --> 00:24:02,224
Speaker 3: went from like a Sex and the City episode to

580
00:24:02,304 --> 00:24:04,264
Speaker 3: like a book to this whole way of living to

581
00:24:04,344 --> 00:24:06,584
Speaker 3: a movie. But then we sort of almost have with

582
00:24:06,664 --> 00:24:09,304
Speaker 3: that movie that Hollywood ending because then you've got Jennifer

583
00:24:09,304 --> 00:24:11,384
Speaker 3: Emiston and what's the may make fun of all the

584
00:24:11,424 --> 00:24:17,504
Speaker 3: time back to you too, But you know what, Phoenix

585
00:24:17,584 --> 00:24:19,504
Speaker 3: tattoo guy, we have like kind of there.

586
00:24:19,784 --> 00:24:21,384
Speaker 2: I hate that, do you? Yeah?

587
00:24:21,424 --> 00:24:21,984
Speaker 3: I hate that.

588
00:24:22,024 --> 00:24:25,384
Speaker 1: I actually rewatched this movie the other day, and I

589
00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:28,784
Speaker 1: kind of forget about the ending and how everything ties up,

590
00:24:28,904 --> 00:24:31,584
Speaker 1: because I just like the idea of the movie.

591
00:24:31,664 --> 00:24:33,384
Speaker 2: I like the concept, even.

592
00:24:33,184 --> 00:24:35,584
Speaker 1: Though I choose to ignore it time after kind we

593
00:24:35,664 --> 00:24:38,104
Speaker 1: all watch this movie and then it just goes off

594
00:24:38,104 --> 00:24:41,504
Speaker 1: into the abyss. But I do think if someone is

595
00:24:41,664 --> 00:24:45,744
Speaker 1: forced to marry you after all these years, because essentially

596
00:24:46,344 --> 00:24:49,264
Speaker 1: she wanted to get married, he didn't, She breaks up

597
00:24:49,264 --> 00:24:52,344
Speaker 1: with him, and then suddenly he comes back and compromises

598
00:24:52,384 --> 00:24:53,184
Speaker 1: and they get married.

599
00:24:53,264 --> 00:24:55,504
Speaker 3: I think the ring and the pants that she wanted.

600
00:24:55,304 --> 00:24:58,264
Speaker 2: The ugly pants. Wants to throw away those ugly pants.

601
00:24:58,304 --> 00:25:00,264
Speaker 2: He just did it for the pants. Really not even.

602
00:25:02,264 --> 00:25:04,384
Speaker 3: I guess they can't. They try and get themselves off

603
00:25:04,384 --> 00:25:06,664
Speaker 3: the hook by having so many different storylines that they

604
00:25:06,664 --> 00:25:11,024
Speaker 3: have some end realistically, like the Jennifer Conley Lee Cooper's

605
00:25:11,064 --> 00:25:14,184
Speaker 3: story where she's like realizes he's cheating, realizes he's never

606
00:25:14,184 --> 00:25:16,664
Speaker 3: going to change, finds out he's smoking, and she's just like,

607
00:25:17,344 --> 00:25:19,464
Speaker 3: he's just not that into you, even though you're married,

608
00:25:19,504 --> 00:25:21,144
Speaker 3: He's not going to change for you. But then we

609
00:25:21,184 --> 00:25:24,344
Speaker 3: have the central storyline justin Long and Jennifer Goodwin kind

610
00:25:24,344 --> 00:25:26,184
Speaker 3: of be like that I'm an exception. What do you

611
00:25:26,224 --> 00:25:26,504
Speaker 3: think of that?

612
00:25:27,584 --> 00:25:30,904
Speaker 1: I think it is hard to like watch sometimes because

613
00:25:31,304 --> 00:25:33,744
Speaker 1: buying into that and like the believability, I'm like that,

614
00:25:34,304 --> 00:25:36,664
Speaker 1: would that really just work out like that?

615
00:25:37,264 --> 00:25:39,144
Speaker 3: I know, but I guess it's that wish fulfillment of

616
00:25:39,184 --> 00:25:41,624
Speaker 3: like there's this rule, but that moment where she's like,

617
00:25:41,664 --> 00:25:44,384
Speaker 3: I'm the exception. He really does love me and they

618
00:25:44,424 --> 00:25:47,704
Speaker 3: get together and it's so hollywooded not realistic. But maybe

619
00:25:47,784 --> 00:25:49,464
Speaker 3: I thought the movie was just too worried to go

620
00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:50,464
Speaker 3: in like a different.

621
00:25:50,224 --> 00:25:50,944
Speaker 2: A different direction.

622
00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:53,024
Speaker 1: Maybe one day, when I have my own love story,

623
00:25:53,064 --> 00:25:54,864
Speaker 1: I'll be able to relate to that plot line a

624
00:25:54,864 --> 00:25:55,824
Speaker 1: little bit more closely.

625
00:25:55,904 --> 00:25:57,664
Speaker 3: You know. That's not learning flat for me. The only

626
00:25:57,664 --> 00:26:00,464
Speaker 3: thing I love about that storyline is like Jennifer Goodwin

627
00:26:00,584 --> 00:26:03,144
Speaker 3: and Justin Long are best friends in real life, oh,

628
00:26:03,704 --> 00:26:07,344
Speaker 3: which is really cute. That she was going through a

629
00:26:07,424 --> 00:26:09,744
Speaker 3: really bad breakup around when they were filming, and they

630
00:26:09,744 --> 00:26:11,664
Speaker 3: said they would go to bars and like she would

631
00:26:11,704 --> 00:26:13,744
Speaker 3: tell him like about her breakup, and Justin to be like,

632
00:26:14,624 --> 00:26:16,224
Speaker 3: I've got to tell you the truth, and people would

633
00:26:16,184 --> 00:26:17,504
Speaker 3: come to and be like are you. It's almost like

634
00:26:17,544 --> 00:26:19,624
Speaker 3: people thought that they were doing like pre movie promo

635
00:26:19,704 --> 00:26:21,384
Speaker 3: before that was a thing, and they're like, no, we're

636
00:26:21,384 --> 00:26:24,984
Speaker 3: actually just having that conversation. Yeah, so that's I kind

637
00:26:24,984 --> 00:26:26,584
Speaker 3: of like that story more than the movie one.

638
00:26:26,664 --> 00:26:28,104
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I lived for that.

639
00:26:28,464 --> 00:26:30,504
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great breakup movie, especially because it's got

640
00:26:30,544 --> 00:26:32,624
Speaker 3: so many different storylines you can kind of pick which

641
00:26:32,664 --> 00:26:35,304
Speaker 3: one you want to go with to suit your circumstance.

642
00:26:35,384 --> 00:26:38,344
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like watching breakup movies, Like how I listened

643
00:26:38,384 --> 00:26:41,544
Speaker 1: to songs like they're about my life and me. So

644
00:26:41,584 --> 00:26:44,504
Speaker 1: if I can find something to relate to, that's what

645
00:26:44,544 --> 00:26:45,304
Speaker 1: brings it home for me.

646
00:26:45,544 --> 00:26:46,824
Speaker 2: Breakup movie, Oh.

647
00:26:46,744 --> 00:26:48,344
Speaker 3: My god, I love that. I haven't thought about that

648
00:26:48,344 --> 00:26:51,864
Speaker 3: movie in ages, but love it all right. I had

649
00:26:51,864 --> 00:26:54,504
Speaker 3: to dive back into the archives for my last maybe

650
00:26:54,544 --> 00:26:56,704
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about this movie came out in

651
00:26:56,784 --> 00:26:59,144
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six, so I always a child. I don't

652
00:26:59,144 --> 00:27:01,984
Speaker 3: know if you were ever then. Yeah, so I was

653
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Speaker 3: in primary school, so I couldn't go to the movies

654
00:27:03,744 --> 00:27:05,464
Speaker 3: and see it, but I became very aware of it

655
00:27:05,504 --> 00:27:07,824
Speaker 3: because it kind of took over the world. It's called

656
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Speaker 3: The First Wives Club.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen seen it.

658
00:27:10,424 --> 00:27:13,704
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you have to watch it. Yes, it

659
00:27:13,784 --> 00:27:16,744
Speaker 3: came out so long ago, but I've watched it many

660
00:27:16,784 --> 00:27:18,984
Speaker 3: times since and it still holds up. And even to

661
00:27:18,984 --> 00:27:20,664
Speaker 3: this day, when I tell people to go watch it,

662
00:27:21,064 --> 00:27:23,624
Speaker 3: they just love it, like it doesn't feet dated. It's

663
00:27:23,784 --> 00:27:26,184
Speaker 3: just trust such a good movie. Yeah, there's some things

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Speaker 3: I don't feel very strongly about, but I feel very

665
00:27:28,064 --> 00:27:29,904
Speaker 3: strongly that you will love The First Wives Class. So

666
00:27:29,904 --> 00:27:32,064
Speaker 3: it came out in nineteen ninety six and it stars

667
00:27:32,144 --> 00:27:35,384
Speaker 3: Bette Midler, Diane kee Connor, and Goldie Horn. So already

668
00:27:35,384 --> 00:27:38,304
Speaker 3: good cars, yep, yep, yep. And so they play three

669
00:27:38,344 --> 00:27:41,944
Speaker 3: best friends who meet in college and they're so close

670
00:27:41,984 --> 00:27:45,344
Speaker 3: they're like sisters. The fourth member of their little group

671
00:27:45,424 --> 00:27:48,504
Speaker 3: is played by Stockard Channing from Greece, and they're best

672
00:27:48,504 --> 00:27:50,624
Speaker 3: friends and they vowed to be in each other's lives forever.

673
00:27:50,784 --> 00:27:53,344
Speaker 3: Then it cuts about thirty years into the future, so

674
00:27:53,344 --> 00:27:55,904
Speaker 3: they're all like much older, married, have adult kids, and

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Speaker 3: they fall out of contact until Stockard Channing's character commits suicide.

676
00:28:00,984 --> 00:28:04,584
Speaker 3: So the beginning's quite duck commit suicide because her husband

677
00:28:04,584 --> 00:28:07,064
Speaker 3: has dumped her and moved on for a younger woman,

678
00:28:07,504 --> 00:28:10,544
Speaker 3: and so the other three characters all come to the

679
00:28:10,584 --> 00:28:13,064
Speaker 3: funeral and they reconnect and they realize that all of

680
00:28:13,104 --> 00:28:17,104
Speaker 3: their husbands have just left them for younger women after

681
00:28:17,184 --> 00:28:19,384
Speaker 3: like them, like getting them through their careers and like

682
00:28:19,384 --> 00:28:21,504
Speaker 3: being a homemaker and having their children, and so they

683
00:28:21,544 --> 00:28:25,664
Speaker 3: decide to enact revenge. And the revenge it's so good

684
00:28:25,744 --> 00:28:27,784
Speaker 3: and all their characters are so golden. Porn plays this

685
00:28:27,864 --> 00:28:31,904
Speaker 3: like famous actress who made all of these iconic movies

686
00:28:32,184 --> 00:28:34,904
Speaker 3: with her then director husband, and now he's making movies

687
00:28:34,904 --> 00:28:36,944
Speaker 3: with a young actress and she's only getting scripts to

688
00:28:36,984 --> 00:28:39,624
Speaker 3: be like the mother character. So she's very angry and

689
00:28:39,664 --> 00:28:43,224
Speaker 3: she's like a Hollywood legend. And then Diane Keaton's character

690
00:28:43,704 --> 00:28:45,704
Speaker 3: is a bit more of a kind of mousey stay

691
00:28:45,704 --> 00:28:48,264
Speaker 3: at home, and then Bet Midler's characters like baudy woman,

692
00:28:48,664 --> 00:28:51,744
Speaker 3: and Sarah Jessica Parker is in it. Sot Midler's husband

693
00:28:51,864 --> 00:28:54,384
Speaker 3: leaves her for Sarah Jessica Parker, and Sarah Jessica Parker

694
00:28:54,424 --> 00:28:57,784
Speaker 3: in this role is ten out of ten. Her comedic timing,

695
00:28:57,904 --> 00:29:00,144
Speaker 3: her acting, it's just like it's the first time I

696
00:29:00,144 --> 00:29:02,584
Speaker 3: saw I'm like that woman is a freaking star. That's

697
00:29:02,624 --> 00:29:04,944
Speaker 3: so so good. So then they go on this huge

698
00:29:05,104 --> 00:29:07,544
Speaker 3: quest and the way they get revenges so good from

699
00:29:07,544 --> 00:29:11,464
Speaker 3: like shutting down their businesses, taking their money, up, their relationships,

700
00:29:11,544 --> 00:29:13,984
Speaker 3: public humiliation. It's just so clever.

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00:29:14,144 --> 00:29:17,264
Speaker 2: And how too God Yeah, exactly, it's exactly.

702
00:29:17,304 --> 00:29:20,104
Speaker 3: It's like, don't just get mad, get revenge, and then

703
00:29:20,144 --> 00:29:23,504
Speaker 3: has also this beautiful kind of ending. Again, I want

704
00:29:23,504 --> 00:29:24,664
Speaker 3: to spoil it too much, but like.

705
00:29:24,904 --> 00:29:26,024
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna go watch it.

706
00:29:26,024 --> 00:29:27,944
Speaker 3: I don't know, you have to watch it, and I actually

707
00:29:27,984 --> 00:29:29,904
Speaker 3: feel like you will love it. Like at the end,

708
00:29:30,224 --> 00:29:32,464
Speaker 3: as kind of all the revenge plots start popping up,

709
00:29:32,464 --> 00:29:34,224
Speaker 3: like you'll be like on your feet cheering, like this

710
00:29:34,264 --> 00:29:36,904
Speaker 3: is amazing. But it has this really beautiful full circle

711
00:29:36,944 --> 00:29:39,024
Speaker 3: moment where they kind of come back to like their

712
00:29:39,104 --> 00:29:41,984
Speaker 3: friend who took her in life because of feeling so

713
00:29:42,064 --> 00:29:43,704
Speaker 3: alone in abandoned, and what can they do now to

714
00:29:43,744 --> 00:29:46,544
Speaker 3: help other women that's not just in their revenge And

715
00:29:46,584 --> 00:29:49,664
Speaker 3: it ends on one of the most iconic closing shots

716
00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:52,304
Speaker 3: of a movie where they're all dressed in white and

717
00:29:52,344 --> 00:29:54,544
Speaker 3: they walk down the streets singing you don't Own Me,

718
00:30:07,464 --> 00:30:10,664
Speaker 3: and they're like screaming and dancing and my friends and

719
00:30:10,744 --> 00:30:13,304
Speaker 3: I like, it's just literally and Gooselum's talking about it

720
00:30:13,424 --> 00:30:16,224
Speaker 3: most iconic theme empowering. Yeah, just so good. And like

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00:30:16,424 --> 00:30:18,504
Speaker 3: obviously when I was in primary school and it came out.

722
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Speaker 2: Like that, I related, I think my friends.

723
00:30:21,224 --> 00:30:23,464
Speaker 3: I must have somehow got the DVD. So this is

724
00:30:23,504 --> 00:30:24,904
Speaker 3: years after had to come out, and we would like

725
00:30:24,904 --> 00:30:26,824
Speaker 3: watch her to sleep over and we would like go

726
00:30:26,864 --> 00:30:29,424
Speaker 3: down the street doing that dance and stuff, and we're

727
00:30:29,464 --> 00:30:31,544
Speaker 3: relating to these women in their like forties and fifties

728
00:30:31,584 --> 00:30:33,464
Speaker 3: who have like divorced, but we're just like, you know what,

729
00:30:33,504 --> 00:30:35,664
Speaker 3: women stick together and even as like ten year olds,

730
00:30:35,664 --> 00:30:38,664
Speaker 3: we kind of like got that message from it totally. Yeah,

731
00:30:38,944 --> 00:30:39,824
Speaker 3: such a good movie.

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Speaker 2: At what point in a break up? Watching this at

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Speaker 2: the beginning, like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like angry revenge. And they have these moments

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00:30:46,984 --> 00:30:50,344
Speaker 3: where like especially Diane Keane's character, because she's very much like, oh,

736
00:30:50,384 --> 00:30:52,264
Speaker 3: you know, like we might get back together, and like

737
00:30:52,424 --> 00:30:53,984
Speaker 3: you're like she just saw a daughter like your father's

738
00:30:53,984 --> 00:30:55,944
Speaker 3: just going through something. And then she has this moment

739
00:30:55,984 --> 00:30:59,264
Speaker 3: where she has this breakdown moment where like, if you're

740
00:30:59,304 --> 00:31:01,104
Speaker 3: just going through a breakup, it will feel I think

741
00:31:01,144 --> 00:31:04,384
Speaker 3: cathartic for you to watch her have this rage moment

742
00:31:04,424 --> 00:31:06,864
Speaker 3: where she finally lets it out like it's so good

743
00:31:07,464 --> 00:31:09,264
Speaker 3: and I'm so sorry. They were going to make a sequel,

744
00:31:09,264 --> 00:31:11,344
Speaker 3: which maybe it's good they didn't because it's such a

745
00:31:11,344 --> 00:31:14,424
Speaker 3: perfect movie because it was such a huge hit at

746
00:31:14,464 --> 00:31:16,544
Speaker 3: the box office and like this acclaimed movie when it

747
00:31:16,584 --> 00:31:20,224
Speaker 3: came out, all the three lead actresses, so Goldiehorn, Bet Midler,

748
00:31:20,264 --> 00:31:23,824
Speaker 3: and Diane Keaton also they would come back Sea Call,

749
00:31:23,984 --> 00:31:26,664
Speaker 3: but the network was like, oh, I mean, it's a

750
00:31:26,704 --> 00:31:28,824
Speaker 3: woman's film. Like even though it made so much money,

751
00:31:28,824 --> 00:31:30,624
Speaker 3: They're like, you can make it, but we're only going

752
00:31:30,704 --> 00:31:32,664
Speaker 3: to pay you the same amount as the first movie,

753
00:31:32,704 --> 00:31:34,384
Speaker 3: whereas usually if you come back to make a sequel

754
00:31:34,424 --> 00:31:36,704
Speaker 3: to a movie that is a box office hit, you

755
00:31:36,744 --> 00:31:37,384
Speaker 3: get more money.

756
00:31:37,424 --> 00:31:41,144
Speaker 2: And when they can only do it again with that car, yeah, yeah.

757
00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:43,144
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. So you go into that cart and they said,

758
00:31:43,144 --> 00:31:44,624
Speaker 3: you know what, the whole theme of the movie is

759
00:31:44,704 --> 00:31:47,024
Speaker 3: just like what you're owed and what you're worth. So

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00:31:47,104 --> 00:31:49,104
Speaker 3: we're not doing the sequel. So they never did a sequel.

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00:31:49,144 --> 00:31:52,984
Speaker 1: But it's okay, So watch it. No, I'm gonna watch it.

762
00:31:53,264 --> 00:31:56,384
Speaker 1: I'll feedback with my thoughts. I'm very excited not going

763
00:31:56,424 --> 00:31:58,344
Speaker 1: through a breakup, but I can still be angry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, watch it. Exactly like I feeling all the time.

765
00:32:01,544 --> 00:32:03,464
Speaker 3: The anger doesn't go away. Yeah, I think watch it

766
00:32:03,544 --> 00:32:05,664
Speaker 3: now when you're like in a good mind frame so

767
00:32:05,704 --> 00:32:07,224
Speaker 3: you can experience it. But then next time you have

768
00:32:07,264 --> 00:32:09,104
Speaker 3: a breakup, which again I hope it doesn't happen, but

769
00:32:09,624 --> 00:32:12,864
Speaker 3: you just never know what. I'm not trying to put.

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00:32:12,704 --> 00:32:14,824
Speaker 2: That up in single for like five years, so there's

771
00:32:14,864 --> 00:32:15,664
Speaker 2: nothing on the horizon.

772
00:32:15,944 --> 00:32:18,144
Speaker 3: But next time it does have that whole like yeah,

773
00:32:18,264 --> 00:32:20,304
Speaker 3: like don't feel bad about yourself, just get out there

774
00:32:20,344 --> 00:32:22,864
Speaker 3: and like get revenge. And sometimes revenge is what you need.

775
00:32:22,904 --> 00:32:24,864
Speaker 3: That's the correct emotion for a breakup.

776
00:32:24,944 --> 00:32:26,304
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think so too.

777
00:32:26,944 --> 00:32:29,704
Speaker 3: So I hope everyone's feeling like empowered, angry, sad, happy

778
00:32:29,744 --> 00:32:31,544
Speaker 3: after this. I don't know. I can't judge what people's

779
00:32:31,544 --> 00:32:32,344
Speaker 3: emotions are going to be.

780
00:32:32,744 --> 00:32:35,264
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if not, you have some good movies to

781
00:32:35,344 --> 00:32:36,704
Speaker 1: watch to get you through it.

782
00:32:36,944 --> 00:32:39,344
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and please like contact us on the spill

783
00:32:39,424 --> 00:32:41,384
Speaker 3: in store, any other other ways to contact us as

784
00:32:41,424 --> 00:32:42,944
Speaker 3: in the show notes and let us know what movie

785
00:32:42,984 --> 00:32:44,624
Speaker 3: you watch in a breakup, because I feel like there's

786
00:32:44,904 --> 00:32:47,504
Speaker 3: again so many other options out there that we have many.

787
00:32:48,264 --> 00:32:51,344
Speaker 3: I need them, Yeah, we need them. We need they

788
00:32:51,424 --> 00:32:53,544
Speaker 3: happen all the time, all the happily married people like

789
00:32:53,584 --> 00:32:55,904
Speaker 3: sitting there in their car like stone face listening to this,

790
00:32:56,344 --> 00:32:58,344
Speaker 3: freaking out, being like, you're going to happen to me,

791
00:32:58,504 --> 00:33:00,944
Speaker 3: and you're going to be fine, You're going to be fine. Well,

792
00:33:00,944 --> 00:33:02,944
Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us with the Spill today,

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Speaker 3: and thank you so much Tina for jumping in and

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Speaker 3: talking about the breakups and revenge. And if you want

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Speaker 3: more from the spill, please follow us on Instagram in

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Speaker 3: TikTok at the Spill podcast and yes, please let us

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Speaker 3: know your own break up movies. The Spill is produced

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Speaker 3: by Minitia Yes Warren with sound production by Scott Stronik.

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