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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded.

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Speaker 1: On Makeup is My Therapy. I'm obsessed and I don't

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Speaker 1: even feel guilty a body. Hello, and welcome to you BET,

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Speaker 1: the daily podcast for your Faith.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mary Dockerty and I'm m Vanam and you are

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Speaker 2: listening to Tried and Tested, the show where we put

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Speaker 2: new products, treatments and hacks to the test so you

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Speaker 2: don't have to unless they're really good.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear what you've got, but.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear what you go god, because I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at your face here on the screen, and if

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Speaker 2: you're watching on YouTube, you're also looking at Aaron's beautiful face.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, I'm going to talk to you about

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Speaker 3: this hack that's apparently been around for like hundreds of years,

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Speaker 3: but it's going through history lessons. Wow, but I've been

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Speaker 3: seeing it everywhere on TikTok. I've given it ago and

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Speaker 3: it's supposed to set your makeup, but it's not a

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Speaker 3: set of spray or a classic beauty product.

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Speaker 1: What have you got? Okay?

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Speaker 2: I've been trialing a few products everyone is doing zinc lately.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean the zinc at the swimming carnivals

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Speaker 2: where it's like.

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Speaker 4: Yellow on your nose.

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Speaker 2: I mean like legit zinc the cool girl cool girls

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Speaker 2: in We're gonna see which one's work.

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Speaker 1: Testing chatting one to three? Did it work? Okay? Look

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Speaker 1: at you there?

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Speaker 3: I am on the scape. I'm going to talk you

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Speaker 3: through this first, because if there's something about beauty, you'll

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Speaker 3: know this. There's always a thousand ways to do things,

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Speaker 3: some of them good, some of them not so good.

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Speaker 3: But there is so many different hacks out there. Someone

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Speaker 3: at mum and may have recently sent this hack to

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Speaker 3: me and asked if I've tried it before. It's called

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Speaker 3: the ice water makeup setting hack. Oh my god, and

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Speaker 3: I had to try it.

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Speaker 2: That sounds scary, sounds like like bro biohacking, like trend.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 3: I didn't trust me trust because there's so many people

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Speaker 3: trialing this on TikTok. I don't know where it started.

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Speaker 1: It's been around for hundreds of years.

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Speaker 3: From what I've read, I think it originated from South Korea.

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Speaker 3: But it basically involves using a cup of ice water

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Speaker 3: and a cotton pad and pressing it into your skin

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Speaker 3: after you've done your makeup, and it's supposed to set

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Speaker 3: your makeup better than setting spray and help brighten your skin,

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Speaker 3: kind of pull all the good stuff to, you know,

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Speaker 3: make your complexion look healthy.

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Speaker 4: But is that much essentially washing your makeup away.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm going to tell you a little bit about

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Speaker 3: this because I would have thought everything would have just

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Speaker 3: transferred right off. There's also a variation of this hact

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Speaker 3: that involves like dunking your entire face in ice water

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Speaker 3: to set your makeup.

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Speaker 4: Did you do that?

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Speaker 1: I didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: It's supposed to be good with powder, though, so that's

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Speaker 3: why I didn't do it, because I usually wear like

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Speaker 3: cream products. Yeah, so I've seen that one getting around.

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Speaker 3: Funnily enough, when I got married, before we did our makeup,

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Speaker 3: we dunked our faces in ice water. The makeup artist

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Speaker 3: got a big bowl and was like, everyone, just dunk

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Speaker 3: your face in here, so I get the benefits of

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Speaker 3: ice water. I just never thought of doing it after

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Speaker 3: makeup because I was like, Oh, wouldn't that just take

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Speaker 4: You know what? I think?

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Speaker 2: I think you and your girls were aggressively hungover from

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Speaker 2: the night before you went, and did none of you realize.

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Speaker 4: Until your makeup.

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Speaker 2: I was just like, ah, hell, everyone dug their faces.

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Speaker 1: I had a party on the weekend, m so.

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Speaker 4: I party girl.

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Speaker 1: The party girl actually doesn't stop paying to gender reveal.

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Speaker 1: But I want to sound cool your gender reveal. No,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. I ain't this gender. No.

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Speaker 3: I had my sister in law's gender reveal and it

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Speaker 3: was like a midday thing.

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Speaker 1: So I knew my makeup would be like melting off

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Speaker 3: So I did my makeup, and before I went to

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Speaker 1: Well after the break, I'm going to tell you what happened.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, here I am makeup. I got my hair done,

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Speaker 3: but like I did my head.

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Speaker 2: Glad you didn't dunk your whole face into the water,

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Speaker 2: because that hair looks perfect.

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Speaker 1: Thank you girl.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I got myself an ice cup of water, so

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Speaker 3: I just used like really big ice cubes and I

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Speaker 3: had like a reusable cotton pad. I basically dipped it

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Speaker 3: I'm showing you the cotton pad in the video, but

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Speaker 3: basically there's no transfer on the cotton pad, which I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh wait, what whoa so minimal transfer which

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Speaker 1: It looks glower, and it felt really good.

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Speaker 3: I think it was because it was really hot as well,

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Speaker 3: but it felt really bright and kind of I don't know,

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Speaker 3: really like, I mean, the light situation isn't that good.

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Speaker 3: But my actual face makeup, my base makeup had stayed on.

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Speaker 1: My face was great. There was no patchiness.

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Speaker 3: I usually have like flakiness somewhere like usually around my

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Speaker 3: musca under my eyes, but that's just kind of usual.

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Speaker 1: But everything else still looked pretty perfect.

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Speaker 3: That's usually when I use setting spray most days, especially

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Speaker 3: I would usually use setting spray in this instance, but

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, it's kind of like patchy. I should have

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Speaker 3: And it felt good as well, because it was like

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Speaker 2: I feel like this would also work with people like

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Speaker 2: me who have rosea siha, because I know on the

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Speaker 2: formula in that episode, I talked about that cooling stick,

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Speaker 2: but it does impact a lot of other women's rosasha.

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Speaker 2: And this feels like it could be like a good

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Speaker 2: Substitute's free.

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Speaker 3: And I've got sensitive skin, and sometimes spraying, certain setting

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Speaker 1: But yeah, as you said, it's free, it's easy. But

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Speaker 1: taking it back in looks so good. My skin looks

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Speaker 1: so good. So I totally rate this one.

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Speaker 3: Am a nail A nail like. Of course, it's been

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Speaker 3: around for hundreds of year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, foody work. So there we go.

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Speaker 4: We need to stop changing things.

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Speaker 1: You're glowing tell me, okay.

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Speaker 2: So I use sunscreen every day. I just have my

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Speaker 2: usual ones, and I use it's ultraviolet. I think everyone

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Speaker 1: Queen, and they have a few other ones.

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Speaker 2: I use the fave fluid. That one's my favorite because

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Speaker 2: I like the consistency of it. But then I've been

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Speaker 2: seeing a lot of people have been moving to zinc

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Speaker 2: I didn't know this had an actual purpose. So I

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Speaker 2: found out that zinc is a mineral based sunscreen, and

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Speaker 2: then most of the other sunscreens that we use are

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Speaker 2: chemical base and zinc reflects UV wheres like chemical sunscreens

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Speaker 2: mineral sunscreen, it only has like natural ingredients in it.

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Speaker 2: The biggest difference I noticed was that when I wore

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Speaker 2: mineral sunscreen, it didn't irritate my eyes. Every other chemical

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Speaker 1: Especially yeah, when you're sweaty or.

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Speaker 4: If you laugh and like your eyes you know, when

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, it just ruined my day.

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Speaker 4: Ruins everyone's day, Honestly, they have to look at me.

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Speaker 2: So I've tried to mineral based sunscreens that are by

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Speaker 2: see what these products are like, because I haven't actually

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Speaker 2: seen people use these specific ones. So I've tried the

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Speaker 2: go to nifty to fifty mineral. Everyone always uses the

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Speaker 3: I haven't tried this one before. The packaging is beautiful,

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Speaker 3: it's so cute. It's got like a kind of like

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Speaker 2: So I use this like a few different ways. The

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Speaker 2: first way was I put it on, I went to pilates,

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Speaker 2: my whole like skincare routine with a different sunscreen. That's

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Speaker 2: the best way this worked. I also tried it under makeup,

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Speaker 2: and I tried like doing a reapply at the end of.

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Speaker 1: The day, reapplying over the top of makeup, reapplying.

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Speaker 4: So I took my makeup off and then put it

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Speaker 2: Okay, yep, so commitment, commitment. I tried a few different ways.

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Speaker 2: This doesn't work for me.

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Speaker 1: Was it peeling?

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Speaker 4: It was pilling.

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Speaker 2: A lot of go To's products does peel on my skin,

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Speaker 2: except for the clarifying.

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Speaker 4: Face oil that I've used recently, And I.

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Speaker 2: Think the clarifying face oil is made for oily girls,

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Speaker 2: and I have a feeling the rest of go to

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Speaker 2: products are made for people with a bit drier skin,

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Speaker 2: so this like peels straight away. Actually have a photo

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Speaker 2: of me putting it on without anything else on my face,

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Speaker 2: like no skincare or anything, because I was just trying

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Speaker 4: Oh no, it just my skin just doesn't like it.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing sader than like having little bits of product

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Speaker 2: In little balls you can probably still see now because

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing it under this makeup. But a lot of

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Speaker 2: Also, sometimes if I put it on and then just

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Speaker 1: Okay outside of the peeling. How does it feel like?

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Speaker 1: Is it light? Wait?

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Speaker 4: It feels good. It feels like a cream.

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Speaker 2: Where's like other mineral sunscreens are quite watery, and I

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Speaker 1: Water on my face, like you've got like a kind

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Speaker 2: And they have like weird little patches. This one feels

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Speaker 2: really good. It smells really good. Give it a waff, Oh,

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Speaker 4: It is pigmented.

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Speaker 2: It has that like signature pinky pigment that the other

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Speaker 1: I love it's nice, right, I love this hint that

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Speaker 2: Doesn't leave like a like that white mask that you

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Speaker 2: get from other mineral sunscreens. Like it blends into my

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Speaker 2: skin quite well. It's forty nine dollars from Mecca. Not

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Speaker 2: because everyone else who has tried it has recommended it

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Speaker 2: to me, I can't say it's a total fail.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to try that because I think, again,

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Speaker 3: you're drying skin types.

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Speaker 1: Oh that feels good, damn it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, after the break, I'm going to be talking about

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Speaker 2: a zinc that has done wonders for my skin.

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Speaker 4: I then tried this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's the ultraviolet Future Fluid. You can get this

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Speaker 2: from a door beauty for fifty two dollars. It is

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Speaker 2: I don't wait how many milk because it's fifty meals.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's tiny, it's tiny.

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Speaker 1: It's fifty meals. But again the go to one seventy

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Speaker 4: And yeah, and this is forty nine so maybe. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's super watery, so you have to be really careful

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Speaker 2: quite runny. Yeah, Queen screen is Faye fluid is? This

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Speaker 2: It doesn't go into my eyes. Oh yeah, so you

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Speaker 2: could live like literally I won't, but I could squeeze

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Speaker 1: Do you know which one?

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Speaker 3: I can't say too much because obviously TGA prevents us

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Speaker 3: well under makeup Airy Day. It's around fifty one dollars,

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Speaker 3: so again it's pretty pricey. It comes in like that

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Speaker 4: Airy Day known.

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Speaker 3: For so they're known for their sunscreen. I think they

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Speaker 2: The thing is with these, I will say, because with

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Speaker 2: both of these I've tried, I wouldn't wear these without

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Speaker 4: My skin tone.

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Speaker 2: Does look a bit odd with it on if I

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Speaker 1: My game changer.

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Speaker 4: Game changer. I hate sunscreen going into my eyes.

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Speaker 1: It hurts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you're on your like zinc in my

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Speaker 3: Zinc X journey.

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Speaker 2: Bringing back the Swimming Carnival, I can do it now, Can.

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Speaker 3: I just say? There's a zinc that you can get

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Speaker 3: from Woolworth. It's called Sunstick. It's an actual stick zinc.

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Speaker 3: I used it for a tried and tested article for

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Speaker 1: I used it as a canceal, like obviously I.

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Speaker 3: Would never ever say to use an SBF as like

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Speaker 3: you're normal SBF. But you can also use this as

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Speaker 4: That's fun.

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Speaker 2: I want to try that because like ze doesn't always

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've got to check that out.

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Speaker 4: You're glowing.

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Speaker 2: So that's like my journey for zinc that I've done

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Speaker 2: so far. I feel like personally it's like one fail,

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Speaker 4: You never know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things where you just

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Speaker 2: if you have any recommendations for Mineral Sunscreen.

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Speaker 1: Let me know. Thank you so much much for listening

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Speaker 1: to this episode of Tried and tefted. That was a

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Speaker 1: fun one.

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Speaker 2: This was a fun one, and look there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: another fun one tomorrow because in her bag, Sarah, Marie

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Speaker 2: and Kelly are talking about bridezillas.

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Speaker 4: Were you a Bridezilla?

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Speaker 3: But I feel like every bride thinks they're not interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think they go through each other's like bridal makeup

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Speaker 2: and like traits or brides during that whole period, I.

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Speaker 4: Feel like it's going to be really really funny.

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Speaker 1: Okay to listen to that one. You.

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Speaker 3: Beauty is produced by the Lovely Cassie Merit, with audio

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Speaker 3: production by Tiagan Sidler.

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Speaker 2: See you next week.

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Speaker 3: Bye by