1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Pure Harvest. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Although I had a very small town upbringing, I don't 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: think I ever had like a small town mentality. And 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: I never thought just because I would lived in a 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: small town that that was going to limit my ability 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: to kind of do what I want. 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 3: I think fear is like literally the number one, like 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 3: you know, crippling thing for so many people because it's 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: like oh, or like you know, embarrassment or something like 10 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: Whereas yeah. 11 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Failure never even crossed my mind because I was just like, 12 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, I'd rather try and potentially lose that money 13 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: and say at least that I tried, than just not 14 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: try at all. I said something the other day that 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: was like, I don't think I was born with the 16 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: looks or body I. 17 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 4: Go, she goes sheds. 18 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes I just look at my life and I just 19 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: think I didn't get the looks that my personality deserves 20 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: or something that. 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: Looks or body I think I deserve. 22 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the C's the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy 23 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: are not the same things. We too rarely question what 24 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: makes the heart sings work. Then we rest, but rarely 25 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: we play and often don't realize there's more than one way. 26 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: So this is a platform to hear and explore the 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: stories of those who found lives They adore, the good, 28 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: bad and ugly, the best and worst day will bear 29 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: all the facets of seizing your yea. I'm Sarah Davidson 30 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned funentrepreneur who 31 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 1: swapped the suits and heels to co found Matcha Maiden 32 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: and Matcha Milk bar. Czya is a series of conversations 33 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: on finding a life you love and exploring the self doubt, challenge, 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: joy and fulfillment along the way. If you're an avid 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: podcast listener, today's guests probably need no introduction, but if 36 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: you haven't already tuned in too Happy Hour with Lucy 37 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: and Nicky, I'm sure you will want to after this. 38 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: Their banter is unmatched. I don't think I've laughed as 39 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 1: hard in an episode or any conversation for a long time, 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: and it's absolutely clear why they've grown such a cop 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: following across their joint account, We the Wild Ones started 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen to follow their festival adventures. Jagger and Stone, 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: their booming fashion label, kicked off with a bang in 44 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, with an iconic shoot at Joshua Tree after Coachella, 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: and of course, their podcast that just took home silver 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: at this year's Australian Podcast Awards. Lucy and Nikki have 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: such a refreshingly different take on work life balance to 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: many of our past guests, taking the party wherever they go, 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: but also building highly successful careers and businesses at the 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: same time. Their straight up, no bullshit approach to self 51 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: doubt and worst case scenarios is also the example we 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: all need of people who don't let fear control of 53 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: their decisions, and a reminder that two can achieve far 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: more than one can alone. I had such a great laugh, 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: as you'll hear. Lucy and Niki are an absolute breath 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: of fresh air with the perfect blend of self deprecating 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: and no folks given. After a very serious year, They're 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: just such a good reminder that life is far too 59 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: short not to enjoy. I hope you guys love them 60 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: as much as the rest of us. Or Lucy and 61 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: Nicky otherwise known as We the wild Ones, Welcome to 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: the show. 63 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: Hi, Hey, I actually just made a joke before because 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: this is the second time we started recording, so I'm 65 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: just gonna recycle the same joke, but today we are 66 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: we the hungover. 67 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: Well I'm so honored that you still wanted to jump 68 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: on the show. You guys are troopers, o babe. 69 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely, what a missive for the world we are. We 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: like to pride ourselves. 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: Aaron, who's our producer, would probably disagree with us, but 72 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: we like to pride ourselves on being people that see 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: through the commitments that we make, don't we need? 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and otherwise known as work hard, play harder, I 75 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: mean play hard. 76 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: Work hard. 77 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: But that's what's amazing about you guys. You're just so 78 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: much fun. You're the life of the party, but you 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: can also have this incredible business output. You've got Jagger 80 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: and Stone together as business partners. You're amazing podcasts. You've 81 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: just got so many things going on. 82 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: But balance and very healthy. Little leap of tea on 83 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: the table there having a peppermint tea. I'm a huge 84 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: tea donker. I love it. I'm having coffee and tim Tams, 85 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: So how many coffee? How many coffees is that for 86 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: you today? I've had like fifteen coffees today. She had 87 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: literally like. 88 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: We hangover ones because you were celebrating your silver in 89 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: the Australian Podcast Awards this weekend. 90 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: Whoo yeah, maybe it was definitely celebrating had on Saturday evening. 91 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: Now are you super exciting listen? Dollar'd be a lot 92 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: more happy if we won, but second's not too bad. 93 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Which if you don't win your last? Who was that me? 94 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: If? 95 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? That was Lucy. If you're not first, your last. 96 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: If you're not first, your last. 97 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: And it was so funny, like because we said that 98 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 3: in the Abby Chatfield episode we did about The Bachelor 99 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: and she was like, cheers, bitches, And. 100 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: Then one of our punters commented that on our posts and. 101 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: We were like, well, playing, eat your words. But I 102 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: will say it's ironic that we said that to Abby 103 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: Chatfield who was in The Bachelor, and then the girls 104 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: that beat us are in Life one cut and they 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: were both one. 106 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: And you guys only just had your first birthday for 107 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: your podcast a little while ago, so you've come such 108 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: a long way, which is so incredible. But before we 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: jump in, I'd love to know what you guys think 110 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: for any of our listeners who haven't already tuned into 111 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: your podcast, what would you say your Gateway Drug episode 112 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: is that you think they should tune into to kind 113 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: of really get across the vibe of happy hour. You know, 114 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: for the first time, I thought you were gonna ask 115 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: me what my gateway drug was all El Sarah's. 116 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: Monday Morning get straight into it. No, So which podcast, like, 117 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: as in, which one's the best one? 118 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Which one you think is like to get them hooked to? 119 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: Like explain five beers? 120 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: I reckon they should listen to this one time at Crichella. 121 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good it's our second episode, I believe. 122 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just went straight up. That's probably why we've 123 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: got a successful podcast, because we told all their best stories. 124 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Don't hold anything back. It's just so entertained. 125 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh almost, I need to start holding a little bit 126 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: more back to be honestly, I'm getting a bit of 127 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: a bad name for myself. 128 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 4: I'm honest. All my friends are like, I'm not fucking 129 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: telling you anything anymore. 130 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: You're gonna put it on your podcast. Just because you 131 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: don't say our name doesn't mean they don't know who 132 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 2: you're talking about. 133 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: So true, especially because there's two of us and we're 134 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 3: just always just like when the episodes of Just Us Too, 135 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 3: we're just like discussing and then you kind of forget 136 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 3: that you're recording, you really do. 137 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: And then Lucill be like, who is it? Who is it? 138 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 4: Mad to me and just like talking like normal friends. 139 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: This is I go so well though, because it's just 140 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: a chat between mates, and everyone else feels like they're 141 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: sitting on the couch with you and they're part of 142 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: the family, which is amazing. 143 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 4: Well, you know that meme. 144 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen that meme, but there's 145 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: a meme of people sitting around like on a podcast, 146 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: and then a girl in a photo, a girl sitting 147 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: next to them with the wine, and it's like me 148 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: listening to my favorite podcast feeling like I'm they're having wines. 149 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: With friends and that all the time. 150 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: Oh, we get sent it like at least three times 151 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: a week just from someone being like, oh my god, 152 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: I found this and I'm like, I've seen that one. 153 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: So the first question before we kick off is a 154 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: little icebreaker where I ask everyone what the most down 155 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: to earth thing is about them, which is already kind 156 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: of becoming, particularly with you guys, but particularly for people 157 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: like you who are prolific content creators and who people 158 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: have often seen or heard of as businesswomen or podcasters. 159 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: There's still a bit of surface level, you know, a 160 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: surface level identity that happens in the digital world. So 161 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: what's something really relatable about you? And maybe you guys 162 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: can answer for each other. 163 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: Oh fuck, well, I already know what mine is. That 164 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: we discussed it on the way here, and I do one. 165 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: For ourselves and one for each other. 166 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do one for ourselves and the one for 167 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: each other, because we literally just discuss what we're going 168 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: to say, so we know. Well, I just when NICKI 169 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: was talking to about I'm like fucking not. 170 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: Much, just that down to earth about me, to be honest. 171 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 4: You're okay, there's my view. You're honesty. I'm brutally honest. 172 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: But now I'm not even wearing shoes today and I'm 173 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: in like a proper recording studio, So I guess that's 174 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: like a kind of down to earth feature. I'm pretty 175 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: like like like laid back in the sense of Bogan flegs. 176 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: But you're both North queenslets, right, so that's kind of 177 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, that's cultural. 178 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: Literally, I grew up in a small town where you 179 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: didn't actually even have to wear shoes at school. 180 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there you go humble beginnings. 181 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: Literally, so because it's so wet up there. 182 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: The principal always like argued that if you wore shoes 183 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: to school most of the time, they would just end 184 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: up like soaked and your little feet running around in 185 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: like little wet shoes all day. 186 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 4: So go on, you get tiny adults. 187 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: Well I know, I'm pretty sure that's why my brother 188 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: has like, you know, long life, long Tinia. 189 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: Poor Jim. No. 190 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: But literally at Mission Beach State School, it's the only 191 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: school like pretty much in Australia. 192 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's others, but that you don't actually have 193 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 4: to wear. 194 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: That's an actual thing. That's amazing. 195 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: It's actually very common in North Queensland. 196 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's weird because growing up from an area 197 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: like that where you don't wet, like it's it's kind 198 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: of weird to even make shoes on. Like you go 199 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: to like, no, you literally go to like cafes and 200 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: restaurants and stuff and like eat it dine without shoes 201 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: there quite normally, maybe not at night time, but in 202 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: the day. So now that I like wear shoes off, 203 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: I find out how to be civilized. How that I've 204 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: now that I've left the stone Age Monkey Ages and 205 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: joined the real world. I find it weird sometimes that 206 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, like, just then, when I walked into the 207 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: studio with no shoes on, and Ara and Courtney just 208 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: started laughing like, oh my god, the audacity. She's not 209 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: wearing shoes. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. It's kind 210 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: of weird to not wear shoes. 211 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: It's frowned upon in peak COVID. 212 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 4: I remember where I grew up. 213 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: We used to go away, like we'd go away to 214 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: States for like running and stuff. And because I grew 215 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: up in a really small town as well, like we 216 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: didn't have any actual, like proper running tracks, so we 217 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: just used to run on the grass. And then when 218 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: you go away to States, it's like, you know, all 219 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: the tar or whatever that stuff is called. So many 220 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: people in our team because we didn't have, you know, 221 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 3: proper running shoes, we'd tape our feet up, like our 222 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 3: coaches would like tape our feet up to run on 223 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 3: the top because. 224 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 4: You'd say that you had something on your feet. 225 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: I had to borrow a pair of a pair of 226 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: spikes when I first went away for States because I 227 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 3: was everyone else just say, have a bit of sticky 228 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: tape on their feet, fashion. 229 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen. 230 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you right now, if you saw a 231 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: visual of what I look like today, you wouldn't think 232 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: I was doing much other than we've. 233 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 4: Always been expressive. Though. Yeah, I look I. 234 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: Honestly look like I I've just rolled out of. 235 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: I'm looking very degraded. Least she's looking hobo chic, I am, 236 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: I am. What about you, Nick? What's your down to 237 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: earth feature? Mine? 238 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 3: Well, I said this, Well, I couldn't know if it's 239 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: down to earth because, like I chose to do it. 240 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: I thought it was amazing. 241 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: But I lived out of a van for six months 242 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: through Mexico and Central American thing, so that was. 243 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: Pretty pretty humbling, I guess. 244 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's like oh yeah, hippie wonder last vibes, 245 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: Like when you're actually doing it, it's like fuck, you know, 246 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: you're sleeping in like a hot ass van, having to 247 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: lock the doors because you're an Acapulco where you can 248 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: hear gunshots in the near distance quite literally. 249 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: How great is in Africa and India. It's just a 250 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: great time. 251 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was very grounding, like looking for groceries, 252 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: like there wasn't any like proper supermarkets and like Nicaragua 253 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: and stuff. So we just sort of wait and you 254 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: hear like this tray back sort of truck thing kind 255 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: of come through the hills and they'd play really loud 256 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: Spanish music, and then you just sort of run down 257 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: and like have to get like whatever stuff they had 258 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 3: in the back of their truck. 259 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: We're like, Okay, what are we making for dinner tonight? 260 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: We've got a tomato orta. 261 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: All those are some of the funniest answers we've had 262 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: to that question. 263 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: Loose. 264 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: I just love that you rapped up not only without 265 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: your shoes, but you didn't even bring shoes, like you 266 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: don't even have them on you. 267 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: And then her for a coffee and buyer in this 268 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: morning and she didn't have shoes, and at the cafe 269 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: she's just like walking around with our friend's baby. And 270 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, you literally look like a proper bar in, mum. 271 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: Right now, it suits you. 272 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna be a barer mum. 273 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: But I got a visual of myself this morning, and 274 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: sometimes I have this moment at a body moment where 275 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: fuck me, do I really look like that? 276 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: Scary stop? It just like it's speaking. 277 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: It's like that meme about how you ever think you're 278 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: kind of pretty then you see a different angle of 279 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: your face and realize you're actually a swamp creature. It 280 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: happens to me all the time. 281 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: Literally two words face filters. The other day. 282 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: Nick I said something the other day that was like, 283 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 2: I don't think I was born with the looks or body. 284 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: She goes sheds. 285 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: Sometimes I just look at my life and I just 286 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: think I didn't get I didn't get the looks that 287 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: my personality deserves. 288 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: I didn't get the looks all body I think I deserve. 289 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: Just like shut up. We literally make our pa write 290 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: everything down, so like no joke. 291 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 3: She's got like this little notes and she dates it 292 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: and then writes shit, Lucy says in the office. Yeah, 293 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: she's got like a note section called shit, Lucy says. 294 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: And they're like they just they range from anything like 295 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: you know, I don't feel like I got the body 296 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: that I deserve, or like something like Emily, buy me 297 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: a large bell please, like because I want to start 298 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: ringing a bell when we get big sales, and or 299 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: like you know, what's another thing. Oh, there's been honestly 300 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: that many there's been so many. So we had a 301 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: you know, the week we had an episode with you, 302 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: and like after that week, no joke, you kind of 303 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: like had like a really really positive week and then 304 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: we were talking about like trusting the process and everything. 305 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: And then she goes in the office so like obviously 306 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: her positivity is like wearing. 307 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: Thin getting towards end of the week, and she goes 308 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: so good, she goes, do you guys trust the process? 309 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: And she's typing out her computer and we go, yeah, mabe. 310 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: She goes, I don't I just go Emily write that down. 311 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: But Sarah, I'll have you know I am trusting the process. 312 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: Out of you. And that was actually I loved it 313 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: when I was on your podcast, how you opened it 314 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: with like, so we know you're all about season the 315 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: a you know, really positive person, so we're really negative. 316 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: So what can you do for us, like give us some. 317 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: I need you. I need you in my life right now. 318 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: But what is amazing about you two is that you 319 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: still represent what I believe is sees in your ya, 320 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: finding what you love to do, finding what you're really 321 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: good at, and uniting that altogether to make a life 322 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: out of it, and also doing it in a way 323 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: that didn't happen overnight. I mean, you guys met so 324 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: many chapters before where you are now, And I think 325 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: many people assume if they walked into your life right now, 326 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: that you know, these two haven't made it all happened smoothly. 327 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: It all came together. They're living the dream. But reading 328 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: through the story, it's so interesting that there's been so 329 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: many chapters in between that don't get as much airtime, 330 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: and that there are so many narratives you could have 331 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: told yourselves about your earlier life. So yeah, this is 332 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: why the first section is your wayta going through all 333 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: those chapters and looking at the idea that you guys 334 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: probably had no idea that this is where you'd end up, 335 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: let alone, the fact that the jobs are in maybe 336 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: didn't even exist when you first enter the workforce. So 337 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: take us back to your very young selves. What did 338 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: you think you wanted to be? You know, what jobs 339 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: did you think existed? And when you met each other 340 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: at UNI, what did you think that friendship would turn into? 341 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: What were your you know, what were your hopes and dreams? 342 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: Bloody hell's there, Dahl? How much time have you got? 343 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: Five hours later? And then I turned. 344 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: I feel like we need a trilogy for this episode, 345 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,479 Speaker 1: but run us through it. Go back to your childhoods. 346 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: You know you've both touched on growing up in North Queensland. 347 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: What did you think your life would look like? And 348 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: then take us through each stage to get to where 349 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: you are now, because I think a lot of people 350 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: get so overwhelmed that they don't know what they want 351 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: to do when they come out of UNI. And I 352 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: love reminding people with stories like yours that you don't 353 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: have to know and each step that you take is 354 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: going to get you to somewhere in the end, like 355 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: the one that you're in now, which is your absolute 356 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: dream life. So yeah, talk us through that. What were 357 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: you like when you were kids? 358 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 4: Okay? 359 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: So as I we just spoke about I grew up 360 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: in North Queensland in a little town called Mission Beach. 361 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: My dad passed away when I was seven and so 362 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: he actually died of a heroin overdose, which sounds really hectic, 363 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: but he was a really well known Australian football player. 364 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: So we grew up. 365 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: Prior to living in Mission Beach, we lived in Sydney 366 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: in this beautiful like mansion. You know, my mom didn't work. 367 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: My dad was a football player slash. I think by 368 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: the time he had passed away he was celebrity. Yeah, 369 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: he was more like, you know, he was on like 370 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: the equivalent of the Footage Show and that kind of 371 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: thing at that point. And so when he died, my 372 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: mum decided to move back up to North Queensland because 373 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: she's from North Queensland, and so I kind of we 374 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: kind of went from having this like really amazing, like 375 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: living close to Sydney kind of big, big mansion kind 376 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: of lifestyle to moving up to Mission Beach in a 377 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: kind of it's not a small house by any means. 378 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: My mum still lives in the same house, but just 379 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: like into a lot more of like a regular house 380 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: with my mom, single parent, going to Mission be Each 381 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: State school, which is this you know, local school. My 382 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: mom had to go back to work. She's a teacher, 383 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: so that was like a pretty big change. But I 384 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: think I was so young it didn't really I didn't 385 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: realize at the time how much my life had changed 386 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: because I was just like a little kid, grew up 387 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: in Mission Beach, very small town, three thousand people. I 388 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: think we just you know, just a normal upbringing, like 389 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: you know, I played every sport under the sun, played 390 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: multiple instruments, did drama, did dancing, kind of just did 391 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: it all and that was awesome. My mum kind of 392 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: never let her being a single parent get in the 393 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: way of like us kids being able to do whatever 394 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: we wanted, which was like in terms of you know, 395 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: extra curricular activities. And then went to high school at 396 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: the local high school, we went and lived for a 397 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: year in Canada, my whole family, which was amazing. Yeah, 398 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: when I was in grade nine, that was really cool. 399 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: Probably the best year ever. Yeah, I think because my 400 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: mum was such a go getter. Although I had a 401 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: very small upbringing, I don't think I ever had like 402 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: a small town mentality. I always kind of knew I 403 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: wasn't going to stay in Mission Beach. I always knew 404 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: I was going to go off and do some like 405 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: And I never thought just because I would lived in 406 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: a small town that that was going to limit my 407 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: ability to kind of do what I want. 408 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 4: And so then after school, I. 409 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: Went to UNI in Townsville, which is where I met Nick, 410 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: and I studied journalism and marketing because my uncle was 411 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: a journalist on the ABC News and I kind of 412 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: always thought what he did was very glamorous, and also 413 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: growing up you know, reading dollimg and then like Cosmo 414 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: when you. 415 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 4: Got a bit older. 416 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: I just kind of always had an envision that I 417 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: was going to work in the female marketing industry of 418 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: some kind. So whether it was you know, in fashion 419 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: or I was never really into beauty that much, but 420 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 2: like fashion or even just like more writing articles for 421 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: like Galie magazines. Like I just loved that kind of 422 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: being out of talk in that like young tone of voice, 423 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: and so that was kind of why I studied journalism, 424 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: went to Townsville. We started working together NICKI and I, 425 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: which is Nick will probably go into this as well, 426 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: but we started working at red Bull together and that 427 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: was where my love and I think her love for 428 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 2: branding and you know, we're both being marketing students and 429 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: just that real brand experience. Like Red Bull's probably one 430 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: of the most amazing companies in the world at marketing, 431 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: and they have you know, huge budgets and they do 432 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: kind of all this amazing, cool, crazy shit, and so 433 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: we just kind of became like a bit obsessed with 434 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: Red Bull, but then also obsessed with the company and 435 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: the way they work. While I was at Union, I 436 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: was like, I don't mind. My career could either go 437 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: in two directions. I could either go and work in 438 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: specifically in fashion, because at that point I'd become really 439 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: quite passionate about fashion, or I was. 440 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 4: Like, ura, I would take happily take. 441 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: Any kind of marketing role, but for a cool brand 442 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: or company that I believe in, So like, you know, 443 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: it could be Red Bull, or it could be you know, 444 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: at the time, I was actually doing a lot of 445 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: work for like a really cool boutique marketing company that 446 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: did like cool festivals and events. 447 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: And that kind of thing. Like so it's like, I 448 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: don't really care what the. 449 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: End line product is per se, as long as it's 450 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: a company or brand that I believe in, and I, 451 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: you know, it's something that I it's fine and cool 452 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: and again youthful, like I've got always been attracted to 453 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: only working in a very like youth driven not super corporate, 454 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: not yeah, not corporate like kind of new age vibes, 455 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: which back then there actually wasn't that many of. 456 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: Like this is ten years ago. It was a lot smaller. 457 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: You know, there were companies like Red Bull and stuff, 458 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: but it's not like now where you know, like most 459 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: of the young entrepreneurs, like most entrepreneurs that live in 460 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: Burly are all young in their twenties, so that these 461 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: kind of really youth driven brands and stuff are huge now, 462 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: whereas back then it was a lot more limited. 463 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: Goosebumps when I hear these stories, because I feel like 464 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: i'd journeys or a jigsaw puzzle, and each part that 465 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: you tell is another piece that you're putting in place, 466 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: and so many people don't get to hear about those 467 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: earlier pieces and get to make sense of the narratives 468 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: and stories that you've and things that you've been through 469 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: that all make sense for where you are now. And 470 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: I love showing that you didn't necessarily start at Red 471 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: Bull thinking that you were going to be there forever. 472 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: Fis pumping out of the mini but no, what help? 473 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: No next step and the next step, and you know, 474 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: you chook all these stepping stones, And that's what gets 475 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: me so excited to remind people that you just don't 476 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: know what's around the corner and you don't have to 477 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: have it all figured out. Yeah. 478 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: We literally said to each other the other day, like 479 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 2: that our jobs at Red Bull, like if we hadn't 480 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: have got those jobs at Red Bull, how different our 481 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: lives would been out Like it's crazy. 482 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: Like scarily different, like scare all of our closest friends 483 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: and stuff. 484 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty nuts. 485 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: Every single one of our best friends we met working 486 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: together at Red Bull. 487 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 4: It's actually insane. 488 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: Like every single job either or think that it's going 489 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: to be something you want to do forever, you know, 490 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: I found that. Yeah, I feel like we come out 491 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: of UNI and we think we need to find out 492 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: forever life and make forever decisions. But it doesn't matter 493 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: if you were there for six months or one year 494 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: or six years, because it gave you relationship views and 495 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: ideas that you took on for every chief. 496 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: And when I learned something with everything, yeah, and then 497 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: apply it in your next no situation. But when I 498 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: was at UNI, like, and I think this kind of 499 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 2: you know how I was saying earlier, Like I just 500 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: played every sport. I played multiple instruments, even though I 501 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: didn't really enjoy any of them. I like did drama, 502 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: I did dancing. Like I've always kind of been the 503 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: kind of person that really probably bites off a little 504 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 2: bit more than they can chew and does a lot 505 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: So when I was at UNI, I had literally four jobs. 506 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: So I was working at Red Bull with Nick. I 507 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: worked at it casually like at a closed shop. I 508 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: ran an event up there, and then I would always 509 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: have like one. I was a manager of a cheerleading squad, 510 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: and so I think just doing that all the time, 511 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: although can be very stressful and I'll probably winged a 512 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: lot about how busy I am. 513 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: It's always I don't know. 514 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: It just opened so many doors, which we'll get to anyway. 515 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: So then after I finished UNI, I had one more 516 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: subject to do, which was an internship, and I just 517 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: had my heart set on doing it in fashion. My 518 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: boss at the casual clothing shop which Nick Nick also 519 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: worked out as well. 520 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 4: My boss is there. 521 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Knew a lady who knew the brand manager of Mink Pink, 522 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 2: which was, like, you know, such a hot brand at 523 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: the time. It was kind of the only brand that 524 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: was in the kind of like affordable boutique brand kind 525 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: of realm that that. And there was another brand called 526 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: The Dark I don't know, oh my gosh, The Dark 527 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: remember them, yes, last in the past. Anyway, I was 528 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: able to secure to help them out with an event 529 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: on the Gold Coast and I was just like, I'm 530 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: gonna wow the pants off these birds, and I did 531 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: up the birds and they offered me an internship literally, 532 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: so I went to Sydney and did a three week internship. 533 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: They asked me to stay in extra week. I did, 534 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: and then at the end of that they were like, oh, 535 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: we just love to offer you a job. So then 536 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: I moved to Sydney and I moved away from Nick, 537 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: which was very sad, and went away from my boyfriend 538 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: at the time. And it sucked because we were all 539 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: living together. We'd all just moved into you know, like 540 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: this is the fun, you know, like young professional part 541 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: of our lives. So we lived together and it's super fun. 542 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 4: So that sucked. 543 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: I lived in Sydney for two and a half years 544 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: at working at Mink Pink, and then I left. The 545 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: day same day I left, I was offered a job 546 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: up here at Princess Polly as in their social media team, 547 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: and Nick was also on the same day. 548 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: Offered to move rolls to the Gold. 549 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 3: Coast up so good the Looseight called me and she goes, 550 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: oh my god, babe, I've been offered a job on 551 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: the Goldie blah. Blah blah, and I was like, oh 552 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: my god. She's like well, I was like, time you finished. 553 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 3: But this is such weird timing. I got offered that today. 554 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 4: Too, so weird. Not trust the process, it was crazy. 555 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean, look what it did. 556 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: Look at the process literally, But you know what. 557 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: At the time, though, I was so stressed because my 558 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: boyfriend had said to me basically like Lucy, he just 559 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: moved to Sydney to be with me, and he was 560 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: like maybe like a year before, and he was like, 561 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: you cannot do this again, and I was He was 562 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 2: kind of like. 563 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 4: We're going to break up if if you go back. 564 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: And I was kind of like, surely, in your heart, 565 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: you know you want to move back up there because 566 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: Nick's boyfriend as well was my. 567 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: Y yeah, the whole friendship groups. Yeah. Yeah. 568 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: So I was like, surely, you know deep down or 569 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: although I know you're trying to make a point, but 570 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: I know you you know, deep down. 571 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: I know you actually want to do what I want 572 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: to do. 573 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 4: Exactly realize you're going to realize. 574 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: Literally anyway, So we moved back up. I continued working 575 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: at my job. I started job at Princess Polly. Working 576 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: at Princess Polly was amazing. They are like the biggest 577 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: women's online fashion boutique in Australia. I got to work 578 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: there for them at a time when they were still 579 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: small enough that I got to work directly under. 580 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: The two directors. 581 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, which taught me so much and just gave me 582 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: so much confidence because they really gave me a lot 583 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: of power, which was great. And Nick was working here 584 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: as well, which I'm sure she'll tell you about. And 585 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: then a couple of years later we went on that trip, 586 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: the one where Nick lived in a van. 587 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: I didn't live in a van, but I was there. 588 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: I was just staying at some feral hostel down the 589 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: road while she was in a van, and we had 590 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: to quit our jobs. And it was on that trip 591 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: that we kind of basically decided that when we go back, 592 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: we're going to have to pursue the influencer thing. For 593 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: no other reason, like we'll both offered to go back 594 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 2: to our jobs, but we were just like, when are 595 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 2: we ever going to have this moment where we get 596 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: to work with our best friend literally getting paid to 597 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: go and create content. This was before we were even 598 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: like we knew we were going to start Jagger, but 599 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: it was kind of more just like we have to 600 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: just pursue this, even if. 601 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: It's just for a year, just the timing of it. 602 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: Really yeah, and that's me up until now, Nikki over you. 603 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: Wow, Well one benefit is that a lot of our 604 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: life from you. 605 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: Basically. 606 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, same thing. 607 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: Like I grew up obviously in a really small town, 608 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 3: Mount Isa, which is like thing's like closer to the 609 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 3: northern Territory than it is even to the coast the 610 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: Alwys are. Everyone always says, yeah, yeah, yep. So my 611 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: mom and dad they moved out there when they were 612 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: young because they just sort of, you know, they wanted 613 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: to get ahead, like all of their both of my family, 614 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 3: like mum and dad, they're from the Tablelands, which is 615 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 3: just outside of Cannes in further north Queensland. Yeah, like 616 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 3: they kind of moved out when my elder sister was 617 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 3: about oh she was like really young, still, like maybe three, 618 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: and you know, we're like, oh, let's go out, We'll 619 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 3: stay there for five years, get ahead. And I ended 620 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 3: up having like my other sister and me out there 621 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 3: staying for twenty five years. 622 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: And they were like stuck. 623 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: But like I think, you know, like they obviously like 624 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: made a major sacrifice to kind of like go out 625 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: there so Dad could like work in the mines and whatever. 626 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: So I actually loved living in my ount Eyes because 627 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: I didn't know any better. I thought it was a 628 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 3: fucking beasny. 629 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 4: Well, when you grow up in a small town, you 630 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: don't know anything. 631 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 3: You don't know it's like the only thing was like yeah, 632 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 3: and like I just used to love going away and 633 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: going to the beach because we obviously didn't have a beach, 634 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: so I just you know, live for holidays. But I 635 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 3: you know, some of my friends that I met there 636 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: like the best people ever, you know, grew up just really, 637 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, pretty humble. I think, like we used 638 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: to go away for dancing trips and stuff, and you know, 639 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: like and you go down to Brisbane, it's like save 640 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: all your money. 641 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: Literally, like and go and buy fifty tops. 642 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: One in all different colors like floral, pink, flory, yellow, til. 643 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: Literally but yeah, and I remember when so I finished 644 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: my my parents bought house in Townsville when I was 645 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 3: I think in grade ten, and then when I finished school, 646 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: they moved there. So I because I wanted to go 647 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: to Brisbane because my eldest sister live there. But then 648 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, go to Towns. We can live 649 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: with mom and dad, you know, save money while I'm 650 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: at UNI. So did that so sad to leave man Isa, 651 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. I got to Towns and I 652 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, this is better. You know, 653 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: thought I was in the fucking big smoke. 654 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: Literally literally, You'll never meet two girls that were more 655 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: excited to go out on the street. 656 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: We thought it was so awesome. Yeah, then went to UNI. 657 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: I did what was my first job, and I moved there. 658 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 3: I think I did waitressing. Yeah, Cattus tractors Jacks. Loved 659 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: working there, and then I, yeah, went to Red Bulls. 660 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 3: I've got the job with Loose. We'd actually met initially 661 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: doing V eight Supercar promo work. 662 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: Greet girl fujitsu class. Say, but do you know something weird? 663 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: I this is the weirdest thing. Kind of sounds a 664 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: bit obsessive, but I'm remember meeting that Nikki that day, 665 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: and I got my job at Red Bull like the 666 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: following week. 667 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 4: And it was so weird. 668 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: Because then Nicki and I started going to UNI together 669 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 2: for a bit before she got the second job at 670 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: Red Bull like with me, and it was the weirdest 671 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: thing ever. I'd only really met her once, I had 672 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: like all and then we started going to UNI together 673 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: and hanging out. But I just was so hell bent 674 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: on joining me at Red Bull, Like it was really weird. 675 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: I was like, I really want this random girl to 676 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: come and be in my team at Red Bull with me, 677 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: because it's like, literally I just liked Nicki as soon 678 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: as I met her. 679 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 4: Love it first, side babe love at first. 680 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: I was like that, this is what I've been talking about. 681 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: I was like, this girl is the coolest girl, like 682 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: so with her hardcore side bang. 683 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: Oh, I was so into it. 684 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 4: Side friends, if you didn't have one, did you even 685 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 4: grow up? 686 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 2: Literally I had them too, But I was like, I 687 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: really want her to work with me. 688 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: How weird is In hindsight, sometimes. 689 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: I forget how weird that was, especially because I had 690 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: a lot of really good friends in Townsville that were 691 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: going for. 692 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: The job as well. But I was like, I really 693 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 4: really want Nicky Wescott to get the job. 694 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: I feel like that's why we can work so well 695 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: together though, because like you know, I don't know, we 696 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: met like well, I guess initially you know V eight supercars, 697 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: Like what a serious role to really kick start. 698 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: Our relationship friendship. That was very serious. 699 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 3: No, But like you know, then we when we studied 700 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: together at UNI, so like that had like a worky element. 701 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: Then we worked together at Red Bull, like we've always 702 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: just kind of like been able to work well, really 703 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: well together and like you know, passionate about like you 704 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: know the same things marketing and just so you. 705 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: Know as well with our jobs at red Bull were 706 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: just the two of us, So it was only ever 707 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: because we were in such a team in Townsvill. Yeah, 708 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: so we worked together for like the whole of North Queensland. Yeah, 709 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: two to three days a week for six hours every shift, 710 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: sitting in a small. 711 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: Vehicle that would make or break you. 712 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 4: Literally, that's so true. 713 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: And we well, like you know, we'd get to the 714 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: end of the shift and still just park the car 715 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: and sit there talking to each other for a next showers. 716 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: I got so many couples have been through in COVID 717 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: it like forces your relationship put it in a million 718 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 1: pot see if you guys can. But also that you know, 719 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: you guys ended up where you are because of so 720 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: many sliding doors moments where if you hadn't ended up 721 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: together in that job, you might not have found out 722 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: that you guys are so good for each other and 723 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: and you've been able to achieve so much together. You 724 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: know that quote that successfully fun when you share it, 725 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: it doubles, So having two of you that work well together. 726 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 4: Stop put your buddy corny quotes. 727 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: I've gone in thirty minutes without Slivik Gwandinna. You're not 728 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: proud of me. 729 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 4: I am impressed, but it's a it's awesome love. We'd 730 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: been talking the most. 731 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I just love that you guys 732 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: joined forces to allow yourselves to achieve things that by 733 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: yourselves you might not have actually gone on to do. 734 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: And you know that brings me to the next section, 735 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: which I usually separate, but I think we'll kind of 736 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: cover it together here. The NATA all the things that 737 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: get in the way of your joy, like self doubt, burnout, 738 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: uncertainty about the future, and the fact that you've always 739 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: had each other I think put you in really good 740 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: stead compared to someone who's alone in their own head. 741 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: And you know, all you do is let those doubts 742 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: kind of overcome you. So you know, you guys have 743 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: been through so many different steps before you started Wild 744 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: Ones and then Jagger and Stone. How did you get 745 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: around those moments of converting the idea to an actual 746 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: business and getting through those days where you were just like, 747 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: it's not going to work, Like how are we going 748 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: to make our incomes out of these ideas? And how 749 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: we're going to build a fashion brand when we haven't 750 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: done it before. You know, it can be a really overwhelming, 751 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: scary jump, but particularly in an industry where not many 752 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: people had done it before. It's so new to the 753 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: world and people are skeptical, and you know, how did 754 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: you go from sitting in your red Bull mini chatting 755 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: away and then building the lifestyle you have today. 756 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: One thing I think we were pretty good out the 757 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: whole time was that we kind of sort of had 758 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: a strategy before we even did wild Ones, Like we 759 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: didn't just sort of throw caution to the wind and 760 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: you know, just go ham doing it straight away, Like 761 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: we sort of did that while we worked our jobs, 762 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: Like we actually started it in different Lucy lived in 763 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: Sydney when we even started it. Yeah, Like and then 764 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: we'd sort of you know, folks it around like festivals 765 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: or whatever, and then you know, slowly but surely, like 766 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 3: dropped a day at our work and everything. 767 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: But we did it incrementally. 768 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we weren't just like done ho like where you know, 769 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: we've got four followers and we're going to quit our 770 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 2: jobs and become influencers. Like it happened progressively over the 771 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: course of five years. 772 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: It was definitely still a risk, but like I think 773 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 3: it was a lot of like, yeah, if we didn't 774 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: think we could do it, I don't think we would 775 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: have done it. 776 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: It's risks. I mean people always they always ask me 777 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: in corporate and I'm like, I didn't do it in 778 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: one go before I had something to jump too. I 779 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: kind of did both for as long as I could 780 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: and waited until the very last minute. 781 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's not even really like particularly money driven. 782 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 4: We just would have been bored if we didn't have 783 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: that much to work. Yeah, you know what I mean. 784 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: Before we go any further, guys, I've got a little 785 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: recommendation for that's been adding some yeay to my days. 786 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: I'm always on the hunt for healthy ways to fuel 787 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: the body in mind, especially when I'm punching out these episodes, 788 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: and I try to look for organic, natural and plant 789 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: based where I can. One of my favorite Ozsie businesses, 790 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: Pure Harvest, have recently introduced their delicious non oat milks 791 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: blended with nuts that add so much creamy, satisfying texture 792 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: to my smoothies. 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Now 800 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: back to the show. 801 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 4: That's the thing. 802 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: Like when we started We the Wild Ones back in 803 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, influencing as a paid job wasn't a thing yet, 804 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: so we were just doing that because I was obviously 805 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: working at Mink Pink at the time, and I was like, fuck, Nick, 806 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: I'm sending out bikinis, just all these cheeks, no worries, 807 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: you know, I'm sending bikinis off to these girls that 808 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: have like four thousand follows on Instagram. I reckon we 809 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: should try it as a joint thing, and she was like, fuck, yeah, 810 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: let's give it a go. 811 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 4: And that was how it started. 812 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: It didn't start for us with like the intention of, 813 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: like I don't know, at that point, Instagram wasn't as 814 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: much of a thing as it is now, so we 815 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: knew that it could be something cool that we could 816 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 2: get some cool clothes out of. But I did not 817 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: have in my mind that one day we'd be getting paid, 818 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: you know, thousands of dollars to do a post, because 819 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 2: that just wasn't a thing. 820 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 4: It was more of like a like a what's bragging 821 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 4: rights At that. 822 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: Point, that's all Instagram really was like, oh yeah, I've 823 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: got X amount of followers, like a bit of a 824 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 2: braggy thing. But as it developed, you know and us 825 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 2: both being in the marketing industry in our. 826 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 3: Jobs, yeah, and you like kind of just hustled and like, yeah, 827 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 3: ye had a bit of strategy behind it. Like we 828 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: always tell the story of when we had twenty thousand 829 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: followers and we did a pitch to Camilla, like Camilla 830 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 3: with Love to take us to coach Olla with our 831 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 3: photographer and like do like a festival campaign for them. 832 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 4: With twenty thousand followers. That was to the hustle. 833 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think because we went to UNI and 834 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: worked in careers and stuff, we sort of like had 835 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 3: a little bit more confidence and you know, maybe someone 836 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 3: else who was just sort of entering it like you know, 837 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 3: we didn't. We've only ever had a manager once, which 838 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 3: we did when we first started Jagger and Stone, just 839 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: because we were so busy. We were kind of like 840 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 3: we didn't want to let one slip away, so we 841 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 3: gave that a go. But otherwise, like we've just sort 842 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 3: of always been comfortable sort of doing it ourselves. 843 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: Looking at it and that's so cool. This is what 844 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: we were talking about before we started recording that. I 845 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: think because the world has changed a lot, you know, 846 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: the structure of careers and working lives and also people 847 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: who do have a profile or starting businesses in part 848 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: and shit with people who you know, take care of 849 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: the operations. I don't think people know how much you 850 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: guys do at the back end and how much it 851 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: has or by being driven by you know, you guys 852 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: literally doing the work yourself. So as you built the 853 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: Wild Ones and then three years later developed into Jagger 854 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: and Stone, which is its own fashion label. What were 855 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: the steps that you actually had to do? You know, 856 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: how did you first get your designs? How do you 857 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: get a manufacturer? How do you send stuff out? Like, yeah, 858 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: how did you guys figure it all out? 859 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 2: It's all like, well, because that job by Ladd in Sydney, 860 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: I was doing fashion wholesale, so I had was very 861 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 2: kind of fortunate to kind of learn the back end 862 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 2: of a brand to a degree, but Nick and I 863 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 2: were both still very novice at it and we still 864 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 2: had a lot to learn. And even you know, like 865 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: we'd never run a Shopify account or anything like that before. 866 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: But it's one of those things that's like it's what 867 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: we love and it's what we're passionate about. 868 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 4: And like, you know, learning how. 869 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: To work an Australia Post an Eparcel account it's hard, 870 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: but it's not rocket science, Like you know, you learn 871 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: these things along the way. And that's the thing, like 872 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 2: if you've got to just get something done, you just 873 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: get it done. 874 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 3: A lot of googling, Yeah do we need what sort 875 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 3: of partnership are we like? Literally, and like we just 876 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 3: kind of yeah, just divide and conqueror and just sort 877 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,959 Speaker 3: of just hope that we didn't miss anything when we. 878 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: Watched And I remember when we first started, like when 879 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: we first started Jagger, we were like looking at all 880 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 2: the potential outcomes, were like, it sells out, amazing, we 881 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 2: make this much money, we gradually sell through it. We 882 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: maybe just do it as like a one once off drop, 883 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: you know. And then I was like, worst case scenario, 884 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 2: it's barely sells. We do it as like a one, 885 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 2: one time drop. I'm like, I do know, Like there's 886 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 2: places where you can sell you know, stock to at 887 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 2: like a really cheap price. We might not even even 888 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: make our money back, but you can sell them to 889 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: like like you trade Secret or Tjmax or something like that. 890 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: If worst case scenario comes and we don't sell a 891 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: single unit, what's the risk we lose fifteen grand each. 892 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 2: I'm not going to lose sleepover losing fifteen grand when 893 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 2: it's like that's a huge amount of money and I 894 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: definitely don't have fifteen grand spare laying in my backyard 895 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 2: or anything. But when I knew that, it was like 896 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 2: a risk that could potentially change my life forever in 897 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 2: the positive, like as if it went well, and it did, so, 898 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 2: we weren't really scared, like we weren't really fearful at 899 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: all about doing it. And I think coming off the 900 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 2: back of that trip as well, like we were just 901 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 2: sort of both so ready, you know, like we left 902 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: like our dream jobs are like our jobs that we 903 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 2: really loved and like that were very like career based, 904 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 2: and then we kind of traveled wonder last Gym Lovers 905 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 2: came back. 906 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 4: I was like, fucking and I'm so sick of. 907 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 3: Being a both Lucy goes, where does one fine she 908 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 3: lack in Central America? 909 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: Literally, Babe, my toenail fell off while we were traveling 910 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 2: because you know, God knows what I was doing for 911 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: my tone. No, it was because we climbed this volcano. 912 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: I wore the wrong shoes, I wore these boots. My 913 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: tone il ended up falling off. 914 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 5: You. 915 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 4: There's nothing pretty about you. I thought you may as 916 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 4: well whip him out for a volcano. My shoes out 917 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 4: this one time to get to the summit. 918 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, you think a leisurely strolled to 919 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 2: the top of all Okay, No, it fucking wasn't. 920 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 5: Fait. 921 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 3: That's one of the that's one of the biggest times 922 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 3: we've been misled in our life. 923 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 4: Oh my god. I did it with. 924 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 3: Raging like I had like a bug and I got 925 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 3: really sick in the morning I've got there. But they'd 926 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 3: also sort of downplayed how big this hike was. 927 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 4: So I did the hike with. 928 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 3: Like diarrhea and blumestone shoes which we got gifted that 929 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 3: gave me the biggest blisters because I'd never worn them before. 930 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 4: I to whip them out on the hill. We absolutely 931 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 4: cooped it. It was very character building. 932 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean, what an ordeal, but but I love you. 933 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: There's actually a big chapter in the CZA book about 934 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: the fact that we don't often talk things through to 935 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: their worst case scenario because we're so fearful of confront 936 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: what that looks like. But when you don't think about it, 937 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: it makes you know. It makes the worst case scenario 938 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: seem so much bigger than it is. So I think 939 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people sit in that fear and they 940 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: have self doubt and they're worried about it because they 941 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 1: haven't thought about how it's not as bad as you think. 942 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, the best advice you can 943 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: give is sit down with yourself and write down if 944 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: everything screws up, if everything went worst case scenario. What 945 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: does that actually look like? And most of the time 946 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: you realize it's not that bad. I mean, you might 947 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: look a little bit stupid, but you'll get over it. 948 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: You'll get over that so quickly. And most of the 949 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: time people aren't actually looking at what you're doing anyway. 950 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: And then you might lose a little bit of money, 951 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: but you'll always make that back. You know, you can 952 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: never you can always make back money, but you can 953 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: never make back time. 954 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 4: And you know there's another crime. 955 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: This is where you need your bell. 956 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: I need my big belt, Emily, where's my big belt? 957 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 2: I think Nick, and I as well. I've always been like, 958 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I've just never had like an 959 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 2: overly huge attachment to money, so like the idea of 960 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 2: potentially losing fifteen grand for something that I genuinely believed 961 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 2: in could could have been the rest of my future 962 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: and everything, I just don't really I never I never 963 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 2: even it never, failure never even crossed my mind, because 964 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 2: I was just like, you know, I'd rather try and 965 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 2: potentially lose that money and say at least that I tried, 966 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 2: then just not try at all. 967 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 4: And I think that. 968 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 3: That's it's a good attitude tap because Yeah, I think 969 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 3: fear is like literally the number one, like you know, 970 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 3: crippling thing for so many people because it's like. 971 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 4: Oh or like you know, embarrassment or something like. 972 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 3: Whereas because there was two of us two, it was 973 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 3: sort of like we're just kind of like fuck it, 974 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: let's go for it, like and you know, the process 975 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 3: was so fun, like we were. It was just like 976 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 3: we're so consumed by it that we didn't even really 977 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 3: think about. Yeah, I think I remember we had a 978 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 3: conversation one day and we were like, really and truly, 979 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: what's worse that happens? Where Like I would say, we're 980 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 3: pretty employable. You know, We've been to UNI, worked a 981 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 3: few jobs. 982 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 4: That's it. We'll get another one. 983 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 3: If not and shit hits a fan, I'll go wash dishes, 984 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 3: I'll go stack shelves at Willies, like I don't really care, 985 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 3: Like we'll be absolutely fine. 986 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we knew like we both had come out 987 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 2: of fairly good, fairly good roles that really stickly. I 988 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 2: think if all all broke out and everything was a failure, 989 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: I think both of our jobs would have taken us 990 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 2: back if we had wanted to, And then there was 991 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 2: a whole other element of it as well, that we 992 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 2: were influencers as well, and we had that as like 993 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: a kind of side revenue stream and all the fun 994 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 2: trips and stuff we were going on, like all Od 995 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: Jagger was like becoming like what was going to be 996 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 2: like our thing. We did have a lot of other 997 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 2: things going on as well that it wasn't the be 998 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 2: all end all should it have failed, And. 999 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know why. 1000 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 2: I'm just not that scared when it comes to work 1001 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: related stuff and like jobs, I just don't think anything 1002 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 2: that we do could ever be a bad idea, which 1003 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: is probably a bad mentality. 1004 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: Amazing. We all think the whole people back more than 1005 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: anything else, including actual failure because the idea didn't work, 1006 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: is fear that the idea won't work, And you're both 1007 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: so refreshing that you know. So many of these episodes 1008 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: get consumed by how the guest got through self doubt 1009 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: or battles it on an ongoing basis, and it's unusual 1010 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: to have someone say, fear actually hasn't controlled my decisions 1011 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: and hasn't helped me back that much, because I think 1012 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: that's exactly the example people need. 1013 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 2: Listen, Sarah, if you had to ask me about my 1014 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: love life, I would say fear consumes a lot of it, 1015 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 2: but when it comes. 1016 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 4: To work, we're pretty good. 1017 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's like when you really kind 1018 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 3: of strip it back and strip away, like you know, 1019 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 3: all the emotion around it, like like the fear and 1020 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 3: all that jazz, it's kind of like, this is the 1021 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 3: worst case scenario. 1022 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 4: If you have to do that, it's not that bad. 1023 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 4: So I haven't lost a limb, you know. 1024 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: Another thing is that I talk about all the time 1025 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: is like we're not heart surgeons or paramedics or firemen, 1026 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: Like what what is urgent? Someone getting their order for 1027 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: green tea like half a second late? Nothing is going 1028 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: to happen. 1029 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 5: Oh bacause before splendor exception, absolutely, I think as well, 1030 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 5: Like like nick said before, the fact that there is 1031 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 5: two of us always. 1032 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,800 Speaker 2: Does alleviate a little bit of the stress and pressure 1033 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: a little bit because it just kind of in a 1034 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 2: weird way, it makes you feel like you're not going 1035 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 2: through it just you. The burden isn't just yours, which 1036 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 2: I don't think we like consciously. It's certainly not why 1037 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 2: Nicky and I went into business together or anything, but 1038 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 2: I think subconsciously that does like alleviate for a little 1039 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 2: bit of the pressure and stress because you're like, at 1040 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: least I know someone else is going through it at 1041 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 2: the same time. 1042 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 3: Or like, you know, if one of us are having 1043 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 3: a day where it's like, oh, this isn't work, I'm like, 1044 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 3: you know, having a shit day, the other one would 1045 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 3: be like, you know, bring you up to vice versa, 1046 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 3: Like we very rarely both. 1047 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 4: Just sit there and stalk, you know, Like that just 1048 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 4: wouldn't be very I sold you get much done. I 1049 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 4: sold ninety percent of the time. 1050 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: A lot of people who go into business with family 1051 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: or really close friends, like I've gone into business with 1052 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 1: my husband five years ago, and the transition from your 1053 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: friendship to your business relationship is actually a bit bumpy 1054 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: at the start because you've got to learn like a 1055 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: whole new way to communicate with each other, and it 1056 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: breaks some relationships, whereas others become a lot stronger. What 1057 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: would you, guys say is the best and worst parts 1058 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: of working with your best friend and how you kind 1059 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: of figured. 1060 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 4: Out Oh, I can already say the worst. 1061 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: How you figured out your roles between each other. 1062 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 4: It's not as bad as you think. I feel like 1063 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 4: I know what it is. 1064 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 2: Oh, when you're hung over, your both over at the 1065 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: same time, usually because you've been partying together the night 1066 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 2: before and not separately. 1067 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 3: I feel like that's also the best thing though, because 1068 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 3: it's like, shit, we've got to go fucking record a 1069 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 3: podcast and you're as dusty as I am. 1070 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: Let's go love so much on the same page. 1071 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: Oh, it's good because we're key how much we're on 1072 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: the same page. 1073 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 4: What happened the other day and we're like, what the fuck? 1074 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 3: Oh, we got like a our lux collection drops tomorrow, 1075 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 3: actually very exciting. We got the video back, which is amazing, 1076 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 3: and we were both watching it like in the uber 1077 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: on the way to dinner, and we're like, oh my god, 1078 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god. And there was this 1079 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 3: one clip which I reckon went for like one seasond 1080 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 3: we both. 1081 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,959 Speaker 4: At the same time. 1082 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 2: There was another thing that happened recently nails all the nails. Okay, 1083 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 2: So I was getting my nails done the other day 1084 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 2: and Nick and I both go and get our nails 1085 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 2: done like professionally, but we just happened to be getting 1086 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 2: them done at separate places that day, at like nail 1087 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 2: art places. And I was like to my lady like, oh, 1088 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 2: She's like, what are you thinking? And I was like 1089 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 2: flicking through their patients, like oh, I might do this, 1090 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 2: which was like a white tip, and then like one 1091 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 2: feature now with flame white flames, and I was sitting 1092 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: there scrolling and she was starting on the white tips, 1093 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 2: and I just go to work. So casually, I'm like, 1094 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 2: oh shit, I can't have white white nails with their white. 1095 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,800 Speaker 4: Flame min the chances. 1096 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 2: Honestly, my best friend just uploaded a photo to her 1097 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: stories and that's what she got. And the nail lady 1098 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 2: was like, oh, did you know that she was getting that. 1099 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 2: I was like no, and I just kind of thought 1100 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 2: it was so normal, and she was just like, so 1101 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 2: you guys went separately and you've never discussed your nails. 1102 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 2: You went separately to the nail salon and both asked 1103 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,760 Speaker 2: for the same thing, and then you just so casually 1104 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 2: were like, oh, I can't get that anymore because she's 1105 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 2: got it. And I was like, that is kind of 1106 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 2: weird when you think about it, but for us, we're like, 1107 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: it's not like a white flames like these butterflies, which 1108 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 2: I relate. 1109 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 4: Just process style. 1110 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: I got these butterflies, mag get my white flame put 1111 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 2: on SCRAMNII. 1112 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: That is an interesting question. Actually, I imagine that you 1113 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: guys don't have many, But do you have any regrets 1114 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 1: in life? Do I have any regret the whole journey? 1115 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 4: I often wake up after a big night with a 1116 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,240 Speaker 4: few regrets. Yeah, I believe that's called the booze blue. 1117 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, But in terms of business, I don't there's nothing 1118 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 2: that I I don't want to say this in like Jinsus, 1119 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 2: but Knockwood, there's only been like we one photo shoot 1120 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: we did actually. 1121 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. Also, still don't regret it 1122 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 3: because it was like a fucking journey. 1123 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 4: Hell of a time. But one photo shoot we did. 1124 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 2: We and this is only this second photo shoot that 1125 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 2: we did for Jagger and soon our first campaign was 1126 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 2: fucking amazing. 1127 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 4: We had a tea in Joshua Tree. 1128 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 1: What an amazing launch. 1129 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't pay for a single person's flights. Like 1130 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 2: we worked it all out so that we could shoot 1131 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 2: it in the week of Coachella, so all the Australian 1132 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:32,959 Speaker 2: models were over there. 1133 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 4: We just timed it to absolute perfection. 1134 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 2: And so then for our second one, we went in 1135 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 2: with this kind of crazy vision. We were very obsessive 1136 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: with Game Strones at the time, Like in hindsight probably yeah, 1137 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 2: we loved Game Thrones and we kind of went all 1138 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 2: out and went to this theme park in the middle 1139 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 2: of like barat in Victoria where there was a. 1140 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 4: Castle and horses at. 1141 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,280 Speaker 2: Night, a night with a fong firing joust high should 1142 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 2: you not? Anyway, the shoot and we did it. 1143 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 3: Two day shoots, yeah, that second range. The first day 1144 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 3: we went and shot in the snow, which. 1145 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 2: Was snow actually incredible though, and then I drove like 1146 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 2: a mini van from what was it like four hours 1147 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 2: to get to this castle. 1148 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, like after we'd had like a. 1149 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 3: Few you know, dinner and drinks at like this weird 1150 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 3: inn that was nearby. 1151 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 4: Just everything was just so like. 1152 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 2: There was a lot on I love it, yeah, and 1153 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 2: I know it was still really cool. 1154 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 3: It's one of like the best videos ever. But like 1155 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 3: we were like, okay, that wasn't even a bat the 1156 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 3: fashion that or very on brand, where like we got way. 1157 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 4: Too sidetracked we as well. At that point. 1158 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 2: We were so focused on the shoots and the marketing 1159 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 2: that I think we were kind of and obviously we 1160 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 2: weren't experts as well, which now we have a team 1161 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 2: working under us that are a lot better at this 1162 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,879 Speaker 2: kind of thing than we are. But we weren't really 1163 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 2: focusing as much on the important things, like maybe the 1164 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,439 Speaker 2: construction of the clothes, and we were kind of just like, oh, 1165 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,760 Speaker 2: we need to have metallic gold flares because that looks 1166 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 2: like someone would wear it in Game of Throne and 1167 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 2: it's kind of and it's fucking sick, and it's sick. 1168 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, they were sick. But I 1169 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 2: think we were just so focused on that shoot that 1170 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 2: we kind of in some elements overlooked the product. 1171 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was still good though, like we you know, 1172 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 3: we sort of like bought medieval. We didn't make Medievil 1173 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 3: make it fashion y, you know, may layered busty airs 1174 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 3: with like you know, off the shoulder like puffs, leave 1175 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 3: tops of little bridle button cuffs and stuff. 1176 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1177 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 3: We actually after we did that shoots, it was a 1178 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 3: two day shoot down in Victoria and then the next 1179 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 3: day we flew to New York for Fashion Week. 1180 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 4: Are we actually insane? I think we're insane. 1181 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: Question in the like Nata Arena, if self doubt is 1182 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: not your biggest one, I'm like, how do you actually 1183 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 1: manage your energy because not only are you doing so 1184 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: many different things at once, but they're all really high 1185 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: energy output to things. So do you ever need quiet time? 1186 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. 1187 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 2: I think there's some days that Nicki is like, you're 1188 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 2: really going to do that to us? Lucy, like, are 1189 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 2: you really going to book a flight from Melbourne to 1190 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:13,959 Speaker 2: New York? 1191 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 4: Really? 1192 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 3: There was one again, yes, example recently, this is a 1193 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 3: good one for our Christmas party. So Lucy's going, we're 1194 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 3: taking our team out on a boat. And then we 1195 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 3: always every year throw like a big Jagger party. We've 1196 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 3: had so many ranges dropping and everything, and we're kind 1197 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 3: of like we nearly weren't going to do one. Then 1198 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 3: we're like, no, we have to do a jag a Christmas. 1199 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 3: So we're going to have like a you know, still 1200 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 3: invite only, but like a you know party where people 1201 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 3: can wear our clothes and everything. 1202 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 4: And Lucy's like, oh my god, babe, this is what 1203 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 4: we should do. 1204 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 3: We're just we'll take our intimate team out on the boat, 1205 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 3: drive around for a bit. So because we didn't know 1206 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 3: if we wanted to go swimming or like, you know, 1207 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 3: just do like standing dinner and canna pay vibes. She's like, 1208 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 3: we can do that, and then we'll hire a house 1209 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 3: to have the party at. So we're gonna have to 1210 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 3: hire a whole events team to bump in their us 1211 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 3: that day, and then we'll get dropped to the house 1212 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 3: on the boat and everyone else commute us at. 1213 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 2: The house, like we'll dock up on the boat. Nick, 1214 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, honestly, I love it. 1215 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 3: But then I was also like, should we look at 1216 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 3: these as two separate Brits? 1217 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 4: Perhaps it's so hard, you know. She's like, Lucy last, 1218 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 4: do you ever burn out? 1219 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: Do you guys ever get like? I feel like when 1220 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: your businesses are very focused on the digital world, and 1221 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: that's a really important platform for you, you're like constantly 1222 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 1: not only connected literally doing the stuff, but connected in 1223 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: thinking of everything's inspiration, like new clothes that you see, 1224 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: new colors, new patterns. Like it's so hard to switch 1225 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: off because your business is a lifestyle business. Like, do 1226 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: you guys ever just have a breakdown or how do 1227 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,280 Speaker 1: you balance the energy to constantly I think keep going? 1228 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 4: We used to. 1229 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 3: Probably our biggest struggle was when we were traveling heaps 1230 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 3: and run agreediness agreed because we were doing that similar workload. Well, 1231 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,240 Speaker 3: like we've got a team now, so like where pressures 1232 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 3: alleviated off us a little bit now in terms of, 1233 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 3: like you know. 1234 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 2: The day to day management running of the business. Whereas 1235 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 2: now like for example, obviously we're in here podcasting with 1236 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 2: you and our whole team are at the office working still. 1237 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 2: Whereas in the first two years doing it all, we 1238 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 2: were traveling so much. 1239 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 3: We said yes to everything and everything. Yeah, but that 1240 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,240 Speaker 3: was a that was a lesson, not a great a lesson. 1241 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: You win or you learn. 1242 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 2: Again, It's not like that's it, and it's not like 1243 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 2: we don't we couldn't do it. We just were doing 1244 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 2: it with a lot of stress and a lot less 1245 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 2: sleep and that kind of thing. Like yeah, when we 1246 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 2: were over in Mexico on our last trip, when we 1247 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 2: went to spring break, I reckon that was probably almost 1248 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,240 Speaker 2: at my boiling point because there were just some things 1249 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 2: going on with work that I couldn't figure. 1250 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 3: Out, and like you're in a different time zone, like yeah, 1251 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 3: something as simple as Lucy hates working her laptop without 1252 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 3: a mouse, like even though it must be like, yeah, 1253 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 3: this is so frustrating, Like yeah, I honestly can't do it. 1254 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 3: We'll be there like we're wearing those big you know, 1255 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 3: super sized slashing on the laptop in the buffet, just 1256 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 3: you know, get our work done before we go. 1257 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 4: To the pill party. 1258 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 3: Literally spring break baby must say yes to everything. And 1259 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 3: it's not like we just go to a party and 1260 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 3: go home at ten pms. I can see that last 1261 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 3: ones up like bringing a live so much. 1262 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: I feel like you're the only people I've spoken to 1263 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,919 Speaker 1: in a long time who when I'm like, I'm such 1264 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: a grandmar like I used to party and now I 1265 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: need to go to better at eight pm. You're like 1266 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: the two people in the world who are like we 1267 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: just don't relate, like cannot relate to that. 1268 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 2: We just do not relate. We just like you must 1269 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,320 Speaker 2: have a really good sleep. We just get more wild 1270 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 2: as the years go on. 1271 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 4: I love it. I'm not gonna lie. It worries me. 1272 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 4: We need to be impregnated just to calm down. I'm like, 1273 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 4: someone put a baby in me so I can't drunk. 1274 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 1: But this is what I love because we're so different. 1275 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that you do still. 1276 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 5: So. 1277 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: The last section is called Plata, which is obviously you 1278 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 1: guys haven't lost it like a lot of us do, 1279 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: but some of us lose that childlike ability to play 1280 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: and have fun. And you have to stop and remind 1281 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 1: so many people you don't. You're not here to just 1282 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 1: work and die. And if you love what you're doing, 1283 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 1: but you work so hard that you can't enjoy it 1284 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,760 Speaker 1: because you're you're exhausted all the time, or you're burnt 1285 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: out or whatever, what's the point of that, Like, you're 1286 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: not having any of the enjoyment. And I love that 1287 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: you guys have kept that play as like such a 1288 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: present part of what you do. But because play and 1289 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,919 Speaker 1: work are really meshed in together, are there any things 1290 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: that you guys do that are just for joy like 1291 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: that don't relate to fashion, that don't relate to like 1292 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: anyone anything related to work? Like yeah, okay, good, that's 1293 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: one thing. 1294 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 3: Yes, sleep, We still love like festivals and stuff. 1295 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah we am. 1296 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 3: Like we went out to this party a couple of 1297 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 3: months ago and you know, obviously after COVID and everything, 1298 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 3: there'll just been nothing on. And we went out to 1299 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 3: this property and went to this party like the first 1300 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 3: one back. 1301 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 4: And you know, I don't think we did many instagram 1302 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 4: short We were just like and also Covid had just 1303 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 4: finished and we. 1304 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 3: Were just fully immersed and the day had like we 1305 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 3: were like euphoric. 1306 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 4: We're like, this is like so much fun. We actually 1307 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 4: love it. Had a little boogie. 1308 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like that's one of the things 1309 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 2: that people like, oh, you know, like partying is for example, 1310 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 2: our Jugger Christmas party is coming up. Yes, partying is 1311 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 2: a big part of technically our work and our brand 1312 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 2: in a way, but for us, it's part of our 1313 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 2: work and our brand because it's just what Nicky and 1314 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 2: I love to do. So it's like, even though technically, 1315 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 2: for example, at our Jugger Christmas party, there's going to 1316 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 2: be elements of it that we have to of the 1317 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 2: day that will. 1318 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 4: Be work focused, per se. 1319 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 2: A lot of people that are around us in a 1320 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 2: work sense are like our best friends. Like it's like 1321 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 2: we work in an industry where like our photographer, our videographer, 1322 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 2: our makeup artists are like all of our best friends, 1323 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 2: you know, all of our influencer friends who would be 1324 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 2: on the guest lists are all our best friends. So 1325 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 2: it's kind of like we're so lucky now that work 1326 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 2: and enjoying ourselves. 1327 00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 4: Really is business and pleasure. Yeah, they really. 1328 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 2: Are so so joint that I don't ever feel like 1329 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 2: I'm working pretty much like unless lucky, unless I'm in 1330 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 2: mix covid no mouth. 1331 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 4: That is a time. Again. 1332 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 1: That is so much because I often say to people 1333 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: that it is so important to have a very clear 1334 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: delineation between on and off because some people burn out. 1335 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 1: But I also say to everyone that we all have 1336 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: a different threshold for what ties us out and what 1337 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: doesn't and what energizes us. And you guys are the 1338 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: perfect example that we're so fundamentally different in the way 1339 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: that we get energy and spend energy. And your threshold 1340 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: is just that you don't need the same downtime that 1341 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: I do, and you don't need the same like clear 1342 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 1: line of boundaries because it works for you, guys, And 1343 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: I love that reminder that not everyone has to have 1344 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: the same life structure to be at their best and 1345 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: to enjoy it the most. Like to me and my brain, 1346 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I would not survive that bloh, 1347 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 1: but I love that for you guys. You're like, it 1348 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: is a blur and that works. 1349 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm sure it'll eventually, like you know, catch 1350 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 3: up with us. But like I think for now it's 1351 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 3: just still it's also for us to throw a Jagger 1352 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 3: and Stone Christmas party and see all of our friends 1353 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 3: come wearing our shit, like that's that's a dream maybe 1354 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 3: dream literally like it literally makes us so excited. 1355 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Still, one thing I will say, though, we love to party, 1356 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 2: and like, you know. 1357 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 4: We really like you know, Nick and I. 1358 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 2: On any given night, for instance, we live together, and 1359 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 2: on any night we could be even like a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 1360 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 2: we could be socializing or going out even for dinner 1361 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 2: and a few drinks pretty much every night, so we're 1362 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 2: social all the time, which I love being social and 1363 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 2: like Sunday is usually like my lay in bed, don't 1364 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 2: talk to anyone, watch a movie vibe. I find I 1365 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 2: do find sometimes if I don't have maybe that one 1366 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 2: day I will start the week with a little bit 1367 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 2: more like kind of oh I haven't really had my 1368 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 2: one little bit of you know. 1369 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 4: Chill time. 1370 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 2: But I did notice when we were we love partying 1371 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 2: and stuff, we love socialized, but I did notice there 1372 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 2: was a phase there where we were like even you know, 1373 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 2: socializing and partying even on week nights. And I will 1374 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 2: say that's probably my threshold because I'm like, you know, 1375 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 2: it's all fun and games, you know, Christmas party time. 1376 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 2: There's going to be a bunch of parties on weeknights 1377 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 2: and stuff. That's to be expected. But I just feel 1378 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 2: so guilty if I am really really hung over at 1379 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 2: work during the week. So that's probably my limit. 1380 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 4: And like we you know, we amazing. 1381 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that makes me feel so much better 1382 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: than you just need one day to recharge. I feel 1383 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 1: like a normal human and not a grammar. 1384 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:35,439 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1385 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 2: No, we well, and like Nick likes going to the 1386 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 2: beach and that kind of thing, I like, you know, 1387 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 2: closing my bedroom door and not speaking to anyone watching Netflix. 1388 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 4: So I'm going to Lucy's room when I come to 1389 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 4: the beach. It's like an igloo. 1390 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:49,439 Speaker 3: Entry. 1391 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 4: Literally. 1392 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 2: We definitely do like having like a little bit of 1393 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 2: chill time here and there. But like I would say, 1394 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 2: compared to the average person, we are, Yeah, I've got 1395 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 2: a bit on and we. 1396 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,479 Speaker 4: Do we don't. We put a lot on our own plate. 1397 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 1: You love it, you thrive on it, and that's amazing. 1398 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: It's just like, no, we know your own limits. Then 1399 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: don't try and catch up to anyone else's pace because 1400 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: It's all that matters is like where you guys are right. 1401 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 2: And I keep thinking as well, in probably two to 1402 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 2: three years, realistically, if I can find a boyfriend, it'll 1403 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 2: be all over and we'll probably be with child. 1404 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 4: So I'm like, I am going to rip in for the. 1405 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: Next most of it. 1406 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:40,479 Speaker 4: You just amazing. I'm just getting like a year travel 1407 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 4: because of COVID scene. 1408 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 1: For three years. 1409 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 2: You can double next year and just never Literally I've 1410 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 2: cut off ripping in two hard and week nights, so 1411 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 2: I'm cutting out like at least four nights a week 1412 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 2: in that department and then but you know, then on 1413 01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 2: the weekend we just send it extend. 1414 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 1: I love it. Second last question, three interesting things about 1415 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: you that don't normally come up in conversation. And I 1416 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 1: know you guys banter a lot on your podcast, so 1417 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to dig deep. You can even do 1418 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 1: each other. Three What are some interesting things like that 1419 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: humanize you that most people wouldn't know, only like your 1420 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: housemate wouldn't know. 1421 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 2: Oh, I just had one for you, Nick, and I've 1422 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 2: just lost it. 1423 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 4: Something that we're talking about the other night. I was like, oh, 1424 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 4: that's a weirdly Oh, like my weird, like lunch dinner. 1425 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a fun one. Nick has very. 1426 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 3: Specific cuisines, cuisine for specific. 1427 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 2: Times a day, so she'll be like, god forbid, we 1428 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 2: have a burrito for dinner. It's only strictly lunch. Mexicans 1429 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 2: strictly lunches. 1430 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 4: It's actually weird. 1431 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then another one is Burger's is strictly lunch. 1432 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 4: We can't go grill. I hate going out for burgers 1433 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 4: at night. We can't go to grilled. 1434 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 3: Like, I'll do it, but I'll kind of look like, 1435 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 3: should we maybe go to Italian instead? 1436 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 2: And she always is like should we maybe? I'm like, 1437 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 2: can you try and stop lazy going about it? 1438 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 4: I'm going to be there about it. I remember recently, Yeah, 1439 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 4: one of our friends recently. 1440 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 3: Will hungover and we're ordering Uber Eats and they wanted 1441 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 3: to get Indian for lunch, and I was like, I 1442 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 3: don't know, and then it was like, yeah, should we 1443 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 3: maybe not? 1444 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 4: Who the fuck has Indian? 1445 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean I feel that one, okay, And. 1446 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 4: Then yeah, they go to order Indian. 1447 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 3: It's like opens at five pm, and I just went 1448 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 3: I didn't even say anything of it. 1449 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 4: Should we choose another cuisine? And another one I would 1450 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 4: never have sushi for dinner. 1451 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 5: Weird. 1452 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah that's lunch via that I will have sushi at 1453 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 3: itsu like it depends on the rest of. 1454 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 4: Yah yah yeah yeah yeah. I've got another one for Nicky. 1455 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 2: She is the most indecisive person on earth. 1456 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 4: It's painful. I'm a Pisces and I'm like, that's like, okay. 1457 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: So you're chill and except on the cuisine for dinner 1458 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 1: and lunch thing like. 1459 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Try and choosing a movie with you. I'm like, give 1460 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 2: me the remote right now, please. I could have watched 1461 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 2: a movie in the time that we sat there deciding 1462 01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:57,919 Speaker 2: what movie. 1463 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 3: Boy, And even I'm even that bad where I'll like 1464 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 3: put it on and I'll be like. 1465 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm a master, that's me. And then I put 1466 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 4: it on and then I'm probably asleep in five minutes. 1467 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm like, you're sitting on your phone. Anyway, this 1468 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 2: movie is purely for me, and I just cheat. 1469 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 1: What's one for you? 1470 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:15,640 Speaker 5: Oh? 1471 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 3: Oh mate? The girl can't shower without wedding whole bathroom. 1472 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I put water everywhere and she hates being 1473 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 4: alone in the shower. 1474 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 3: She gets so bored that, like, even if we're pre 1475 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 3: drinking she'll like, I like, she'll get out as she's 1476 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 3: like fully still drenched like a back salt wet. She 1477 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 3: walks out of the shower with like a roadie that 1478 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 3: she's made because she needed to keep pre drinking in 1479 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 3: the shower, Like she's. 1480 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 4: Like, oh, it was so boring and there we can 1481 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 4: get rid of my room. 1482 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: Are you one of those people who wants your mate 1483 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: to like pull up a chair to the shower so 1484 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: you can keep chatting, like, keep me company, keep me into. 1485 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 2: Pretty much, except I'd hate naked to see me in 1486 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 2: the nude. 1487 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 1: So that would I would have totally picked you guys from. 1488 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 4: Nah. People ask we hook up and ship and I'm like, oh, actually, 1489 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 4: I was like, listen, I'm open to sexually exploring. 1490 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 3: And we broke up with our boyfriend's earlier this year. 1491 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 3: There was a few dms like that, like you two 1492 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 3: lesbians now. 1493 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 1: We were like, well, I mean that's not the only 1494 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: option from here forward. 1495 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, literally interesting, but no, we're not 1496 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 2: nude friends. 1497 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 4: There's another fun. 1498 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 1: Fact that you're really fun. 1499 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 4: Don't know what else. I'm a wet dough don't want 1500 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 4: dramas are properly You're like we're like obsessed with TV 1501 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 4: and it calms you. 1502 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm definitely going I've definitely gotten a lot better. 1503 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, I love TV only I don't sit around 1504 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 2: obsessively watching TV all day long, but like come to 1505 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 2: like nine o'clock at night if I mean. 1506 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 4: Like, oh yeah, that's it helps you go to sleep. 1507 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, help again, I've actually gotten a lot better just 1508 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 2: falling asleep amazing. 1509 01:06:53,880 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 4: I do. I do love TV. It live. 1510 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Last question, guys, what are your favorite quotes? You have 1511 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 1: to have a corny quote, throw them at me. 1512 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 4: I've got mine. 1513 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 3: Oh, Nicky's got one just is my go to, very applicable. 1514 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 3: I just sort of, you know, try and working into 1515 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 3: everyday contost. Like comparison is the thief of joy. 1516 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,919 Speaker 4: Such a good one. That's a pearl, Such a good one. 1517 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 3: I love it, and like, yeah, it just it never 1518 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 3: makes you feel good if you're like, you know, comparing 1519 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 3: yourself for like jealousy, and you know, I know you 1520 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 3: can't always help those things, but I think it's very 1521 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,959 Speaker 3: important to remember that, like when. 1522 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 4: You do stuff like that, you're just kind of feeling yourself. 1523 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 1: Such a good one, you got one loose. 1524 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 4: I'm just googling good quotes right now. 1525 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Just delegating that Lucy, I gotta. 1526 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 4: Get through this. 1527 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was going through a bit of a 1528 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 2: tough time earlier this year, earlier last week, and you 1529 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 2: know that song got to get through this And that's 1530 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 2: like it's like a house music. 1531 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:04,880 Speaker 1: Song, me and my friend and I just remember that. 1532 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 1: Is it kind of like that really boppy one Dent 1533 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 1: d Dent? 1534 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 4: All right? Yes can you listen? 1535 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh my god, what a throw back you guys. 1536 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 1: You've taken me to all different times. 1537 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Even my favorite meaningful life life quote is in the 1538 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:26,640 Speaker 2: form of a. 1539 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 4: So there you go. I gotta get through this. No, 1540 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 4: but yeah, I don't. 1541 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 2: I love like quotes and stuff at the moment because 1542 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:37,760 Speaker 2: whenever you go through like a tough time, you. 1543 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 4: Like read those like those pages like we the. 1544 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 2: Urban and we are not really strangers in the female 1545 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 2: Warhole and you read them and you're like, oh, yes, 1546 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 2: I can relate to that. But there's never been one 1547 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 2: that like fully fully fully has been the only like 1548 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 2: I just like all of them. Yeah, it depends, like 1549 01:08:55,800 --> 01:09:00,480 Speaker 2: what stage amazing, but yeah, mainly the. 1550 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, guys, we said you have 1551 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 1: been such a pleasure. You're such a blast. Thank you 1552 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: for having me on your show, and thank you for 1553 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 1: jumping on Czya. 1554 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 3: We love through literally like if we have like ever 1555 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 3: can reunite in person, we'll just be I reckon hours 1556 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 3: just chit chat, chit chat. 1557 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 4: I actually cannot. 1558 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 1: I should do one of those Joe Rogan podcasts where 1559 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 1: it just goes for like five hours and people just 1560 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 1: listen to us gasbag about just random ship. 1561 01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 4: We could totally do that. 1562 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 2: I need to have like a limit, though, because five 1563 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 2: hours a lot of crazy, so we need to. 1564 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,639 Speaker 1: Rain you wings and a lot of drinks. 1565 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 4: Consume a lot of drinks. 1566 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 2: The more drinks I have, the more rogue my chat gets, 1567 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,439 Speaker 2: and like I'd be concerned after two bottles of wine, 1568 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 2: It'd be like and down the hatches because. 1569 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:51,120 Speaker 4: Crazy is in town. Fun craizy fun. 1570 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 5: Man. 1571 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 1: This one was so much fun. I truly loved how 1572 01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,799 Speaker 1: much they are just wholly themselves and absolutely loving life. 1573 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 1: If you laughed anywhere near as much as I did, 1574 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 1: please share and tag we the wild Ones or Lucy 1575 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 1: and Nikki's personal pages to give them some love and 1576 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 1: so we can reshare to help keep growing the neighborhood. 1577 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: Make sure you join the Facebook group as well to 1578 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 1: find out about the weekly giveaways for the best shares 1579 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,719 Speaker 1: and a new product that's launching eminently into the family. 1580 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a wonderful day and as seizing 1581 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 1: your yeay