WEBVTT - Finding The Blueprint To Your Wardrobe 0:00:10.745 --> 0:00:15.425 You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges the 0:00:15.465 --> 0:00:18.545 traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 0:00:18.585 --> 0:00:22.785 recorded on. Whoever said orange is the new pink but 0:00:22.985 --> 0:00:26.425 seriously disturved laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 0:00:26.665 --> 0:00:28.985 Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 0:00:29.065 --> 0:00:29.745 for fashion. 0:00:30.945 --> 0:00:33.825 Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 0:00:33.905 --> 0:00:37.465 solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee 0:00:37.585 --> 0:00:40.465 Campbell and every week I talk to an expert who 0:00:40.465 --> 0:00:42.465 helps us work out how to get more out of 0:00:42.505 --> 0:00:45.065 the clothes we already own and tells us exactly what 0:00:45.345 --> 0:00:48.865 is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. And on that. 0:00:49.185 --> 0:00:52.665 Do you have all your favorite wardrobe pieces but feel 0:00:52.745 --> 0:00:55.305 a bit lost when it comes to putting them together. 0:00:55.705 --> 0:00:59.185 The chances are you haven't yet discovered the blueprint for 0:00:59.265 --> 0:01:02.305 your wardrobe, a way to unlock the full potential of 0:01:02.345 --> 0:01:06.385 everything you own. Today's guest, Anthea O'Connor, is here to help. 0:01:06.825 --> 0:01:10.505 A personal stylist and former Melbourne editor of Bogu Australia, 0:01:11.065 --> 0:01:15.105 Anthea has spent decades helping women discover their signature style 0:01:15.185 --> 0:01:18.705 and simplifying their morning routines to make it easy to 0:01:18.785 --> 0:01:21.625 choose what to wear and how to wear it. Finding 0:01:21.625 --> 0:01:23.905 your wardrobe blueprint is just one of her go to 0:01:24.065 --> 0:01:28.465 tips for making fashion feel effortless. Anthea, Firstly, welcome to 0:01:28.505 --> 0:01:30.825 the show. It is so wonderful to have you, and 0:01:31.065 --> 0:01:33.945 I start every episode with a new guest with a 0:01:33.985 --> 0:01:38.345 couple of questions. So, firstly, can you describe your own 0:01:38.425 --> 0:01:39.705 style in three words? 0:01:40.145 --> 0:01:42.505 Oh goodness, well high lay and thank you for having me. 0:01:42.705 --> 0:01:45.105 Very excited to be joining you today. And look. I 0:01:45.145 --> 0:01:47.985 have given this a little bit of thought because I thought, 0:01:47.985 --> 0:01:49.505 by now, at this point in my career, I really 0:01:49.545 --> 0:01:52.065 should have this downpat. I've come up with a word 0:01:52.105 --> 0:01:55.425 called progressive classic, which I kind of made up because 0:01:56.145 --> 0:01:58.345 I guess, like most people, i'd like to think my 0:01:58.465 --> 0:02:01.985 sense of style is classic, but I think progressive meaning 0:02:02.025 --> 0:02:03.945 I'm not going to get stuck in a style right, 0:02:03.945 --> 0:02:07.065 and I'm always looking ahead to what the kind of reworked, 0:02:07.425 --> 0:02:09.225 refreshed classic pieces. 0:02:09.745 --> 0:02:13.465 I really really like that there's the classics that shapes change, 0:02:13.505 --> 0:02:14.825 but it's still a white shirt. It might be a 0:02:14.865 --> 0:02:15.945 different white shirt. 0:02:15.745 --> 0:02:18.065 That's exactly right, and the category might be the same, 0:02:18.145 --> 0:02:20.785 but execution is tweaked a little bit, and you're moving 0:02:20.785 --> 0:02:21.465 forward with it. 0:02:21.545 --> 0:02:24.225 I love that. Now are you claiming that as one 0:02:24.225 --> 0:02:24.745 word or two? 0:02:25.305 --> 0:02:27.225 Look? I in my notes yet, I've made it up 0:02:27.225 --> 0:02:29.225 and it was hyphened, but we could make that one word. 0:02:29.345 --> 0:02:31.025 Yeah, that's the one word. What else have you got? 0:02:31.185 --> 0:02:31.825 Elevated? 0:02:31.905 --> 0:02:33.865 Which is sort of a funny old word, but I 0:02:33.865 --> 0:02:35.985 think for me that means I'm just going to be 0:02:36.105 --> 0:02:38.065 trying to smarten it up all the time. I'm one 0:02:38.065 --> 0:02:40.065 of those people where I feel, you know, don't save 0:02:40.105 --> 0:02:43.185 your good stuff, put it on, feel good, look your best, 0:02:43.585 --> 0:02:45.225 and don't kind of save it for. 0:02:45.105 --> 0:02:46.345 A special occasion. 0:02:46.425 --> 0:02:46.825 I agree. 0:02:47.105 --> 0:02:49.265 Mind being the most overdressed person in a room. 0:02:49.465 --> 0:02:50.865 Me neither. I'm not going to wear a ball gown. 0:02:50.865 --> 0:02:52.625 But if I've got five pairs of jeans and one 0:02:52.665 --> 0:02:54.105 of them are the best ones, I want to reach 0:02:54.145 --> 0:02:54.785 for the moment. 0:02:55.065 --> 0:02:59.425 So that's exactly my thinking as well. And then I 0:02:59.425 --> 0:03:02.465 thought another word was maybe assured, And by that I 0:03:02.505 --> 0:03:05.185 mean I know what looks good on me by now, 0:03:05.265 --> 0:03:07.425 and I know how it makes me feel, and I 0:03:07.425 --> 0:03:10.945 hope that's reflected in my style and how I'm wearing something. 0:03:11.465 --> 0:03:13.305 I love that too, and I hope so too. Because 0:03:13.345 --> 0:03:15.465 this is your job. And I must agree you are 0:03:15.505 --> 0:03:18.745 definitely those three words. Now, the saying that rings true 0:03:18.745 --> 0:03:21.425 with most people. We wear ten percent of our wardrobe 0:03:21.545 --> 0:03:24.225 ninety percent of the time, so there's stuff we reached 0:03:24.225 --> 0:03:26.785 for over and over. What's in your This. 0:03:26.785 --> 0:03:28.745 Is such a great stat and it's interesting because I've 0:03:28.745 --> 0:03:30.465 sort of used that stat a lot myself, and I 0:03:30.545 --> 0:03:33.185 thought we wore twenty percent of our wardrobe eighty percent 0:03:33.225 --> 0:03:33.585 of the time. 0:03:33.625 --> 0:03:35.025 So I'm loving this increased. 0:03:36.585 --> 0:03:38.825 I feel sorry for the ninety percent though. 0:03:38.625 --> 0:03:41.545 Oh it's so true. So what is in my ten percent? 0:03:41.745 --> 0:03:44.705 It is definitely denim. I do feel we've had a 0:03:44.705 --> 0:03:48.465 couple of seasons of very denim centric kind of style 0:03:48.505 --> 0:03:51.985 and fashion looks, so denim at the moment shirts, I 0:03:52.065 --> 0:03:54.945 wear shirts and shirting a lot. I really kind of 0:03:54.945 --> 0:03:57.585 go between those and white T shirts. 0:03:58.105 --> 0:03:59.905 You and I sound like we should share a wardrobe 0:03:59.945 --> 0:04:00.425 as long as. 0:04:00.345 --> 0:04:03.185 I get your skincare in the mix too. So definitely 0:04:03.265 --> 0:04:06.425 denim shirts, T shirts and a great blazer are my 0:04:06.545 --> 0:04:09.545 definite sort of tight pieces within that temper. 0:04:10.785 --> 0:04:13.345 I like that we are very similar. Now, Listen, you're 0:04:13.345 --> 0:04:16.145 a personal stylist and you have been for many years, 0:04:16.585 --> 0:04:19.265 so who are your clients and what do you find 0:04:19.265 --> 0:04:21.705 are their main problems with their wardrobe? What are they 0:04:21.745 --> 0:04:22.385 coming to you for? 0:04:23.065 --> 0:04:27.385 Good question, Good question. I am a stylist. 0:04:26.945 --> 0:04:31.225 And I work with everyday normal ladies, just regular women 0:04:31.465 --> 0:04:34.425 who are getting about their weeks, their days and their weeks. 0:04:34.465 --> 0:04:36.825 I have a really broad mix of clients. I've been 0:04:36.865 --> 0:04:40.905 doing this for fourteen years since I left Vogue, and 0:04:41.265 --> 0:04:43.545 really I'm working with clients that I began working with 0:04:43.625 --> 0:04:46.385 back in twenty ten. So it's been a really lovely 0:04:46.705 --> 0:04:50.545 next chapter of my fashion career. And I work with 0:04:50.985 --> 0:04:54.345 regular women that can be anything from corporate executive to 0:04:54.985 --> 0:04:57.545 stay at home mum to someone that is juggling their 0:04:57.585 --> 0:05:00.585 own business with other aspects of their life and kind 0:05:00.625 --> 0:05:03.265 of everything in between. So I guess the thing that 0:05:03.905 --> 0:05:07.385 probably sets my sort of little business and what I 0:05:07.425 --> 0:05:09.305 do a part is I sort of begin this journey 0:05:09.345 --> 0:05:11.305 with all my gorgeous clients, and we sort of really 0:05:11.345 --> 0:05:14.825 stay together. That's amazing, in and out of work together 0:05:14.985 --> 0:05:17.145 and see each other a few times a year, once 0:05:17.185 --> 0:05:18.865 a year, once every two years. 0:05:18.905 --> 0:05:20.745 It kind of depends on the client. 0:05:20.905 --> 0:05:23.265 And why do they come to you? Are they overwhelmed 0:05:23.265 --> 0:05:25.985 by fashion? Do they not have time for fashion. Are 0:05:26.065 --> 0:05:28.945 they try to get the best out of their budget 0:05:29.585 --> 0:05:30.785 all of the above. 0:05:30.985 --> 0:05:32.825 Yes, absolutely, all of the above. 0:05:33.025 --> 0:05:35.905 I think essentially they're coming to me because they're busy, 0:05:36.025 --> 0:05:37.865 they've got a lot on they've got other things that 0:05:37.905 --> 0:05:41.545 are taking priority in their brain capacity, and they're coming 0:05:41.545 --> 0:05:44.025 to me for my kind of expert eye. I can 0:05:44.065 --> 0:05:46.905 cut to the chase, I know the best black pants 0:05:46.945 --> 0:05:49.745 they need for what they need them to do. It's 0:05:49.785 --> 0:05:51.585 a little bit, I guess I describe it a little 0:05:51.585 --> 0:05:52.865 bit like being an interior designer. 0:05:53.065 --> 0:05:54.985 Not many people would embark on a. 0:05:54.825 --> 0:05:58.265 Big house renovation project without getting an expert opinion or 0:05:58.305 --> 0:06:00.625 an expert eye in the mix for some of those 0:06:00.665 --> 0:06:03.785 critical decisions. And I feel I sort of am a 0:06:03.825 --> 0:06:06.745 little bit similar. But in the wardrobe clothing space, they're 0:06:06.745 --> 0:06:08.945 coming to me for my expert eye, a bit of 0:06:08.945 --> 0:06:13.145 a well edited and I present to them the kind 0:06:13.185 --> 0:06:15.545 of curated edit of what I think they need for 0:06:15.665 --> 0:06:16.345 what they need. 0:06:16.425 --> 0:06:18.785 That's such a good analogy, that is so so true. 0:06:18.985 --> 0:06:21.345 It's like you wouldn't do a big fit out without 0:06:21.345 --> 0:06:22.785 a professional and it's the same thing. 0:06:23.025 --> 0:06:25.505 Embarking on the process of a personal stylist is an 0:06:25.545 --> 0:06:28.465 investment but I do feel you're setting yourself up for 0:06:29.105 --> 0:06:32.105 better financial decisions and outcomes with your wardrobe. Oh and 0:06:32.105 --> 0:06:33.745 this is where it gets really funny. After we sort 0:06:33.745 --> 0:06:35.785 of work through our process together and we set up 0:06:35.785 --> 0:06:38.665 their wardrobe and everything's there, they'll say, oh God, I've 0:06:38.665 --> 0:06:39.985 got a black taie function on Thursday. 0:06:40.025 --> 0:06:40.745 I need a new dress. 0:06:40.785 --> 0:06:43.185 And I'll say, no, you don't refer back to those 0:06:43.225 --> 0:06:45.865 black velvet pants that we just set you up with 0:06:45.945 --> 0:06:48.505 that look great for an after five event and that 0:06:48.585 --> 0:06:50.505 fabulous top. So you don't need to go and do 0:06:50.585 --> 0:06:52.625 that impulse spend panic purchase. 0:06:53.265 --> 0:06:56.025 I never panic purchase, but I emotional purchase a lot, 0:06:56.065 --> 0:06:58.145 which and I'm always in some sort of emotion and 0:06:58.345 --> 0:07:01.145 so honestly, I do need a bit of a mind. 0:07:01.145 --> 0:07:02.785 And when it comes to shopping, it sounds like that's 0:07:02.785 --> 0:07:05.865 what you're good for. Now. Something you've talked about before 0:07:06.025 --> 0:07:08.505 is when you go shopping with these clients, you're like 0:07:08.545 --> 0:07:11.745 their projector against the shop assistance, and you're their advocate. 0:07:11.905 --> 0:07:12.905 What do you mean by that? 0:07:13.425 --> 0:07:15.785 I like to think that I'm a sort of a 0:07:15.865 --> 0:07:18.465 value add in a retail space with a client, because 0:07:18.705 --> 0:07:21.065 I really work with women that are predominantly, I guess 0:07:21.225 --> 0:07:25.105 sort of early forties through to late fifties, and interestingly, 0:07:25.185 --> 0:07:27.305 a lot of women in that demographic might have lost 0:07:27.345 --> 0:07:30.625 their style confidence and lose a little bit of that 0:07:30.705 --> 0:07:33.545 self confidence part, particularly when they're at retail and they 0:07:33.545 --> 0:07:35.505 get a little bit overwhelmed by what's in front of them. 0:07:35.825 --> 0:07:37.625 And I like to think, I'm there. I am a 0:07:37.625 --> 0:07:41.745 bit of an advocate. I will say exactly what I think, 0:07:41.985 --> 0:07:44.785 so whereas perhaps a retail assistant will. 0:07:44.705 --> 0:07:46.185 Say that looks great, that looks great. 0:07:46.945 --> 0:07:49.425 I'm there going actually they really do look great, and 0:07:49.465 --> 0:07:51.705 actually that pair doesn't look as great, and they don't 0:07:51.705 --> 0:07:54.745 look great because of XYZ. So creating a context and 0:07:54.825 --> 0:07:58.585 explanation which makes the whole shopping process a lot more 0:07:58.745 --> 0:08:01.945 informative and educated and easier. 0:08:02.065 --> 0:08:04.385 Ultimately, Yeah, and it can be intimidating. I mean I 0:08:04.425 --> 0:08:06.305 mostly shop online these days, but if I do go 0:08:06.385 --> 0:08:08.905 in store, sometimes as a sales assistant is saying, how 0:08:08.905 --> 0:08:10.305 do you look in that now the size? Let me 0:08:10.345 --> 0:08:12.625 have a look. Oh that looks great, And sometimes you're like, oh, okay, 0:08:12.625 --> 0:08:14.145 and you might end up buying, or we might end 0:08:14.225 --> 0:08:17.065 up leaving because it's a lot But if you tried 0:08:17.105 --> 0:08:18.705 on other things in that story, you might have found 0:08:18.705 --> 0:08:19.705 some winners. 0:08:19.385 --> 0:08:21.345 One hundred percent, and I really kind of make that 0:08:21.385 --> 0:08:23.905 retail time count. I'm out there running around the floor 0:08:23.985 --> 0:08:25.985 making sure I've got all the items that I think 0:08:26.025 --> 0:08:28.065 are right for that client. How they move back with 0:08:28.105 --> 0:08:30.545 the pieces that we've already pulled, So I guess I'm 0:08:30.585 --> 0:08:32.305 sort of that edit running around. 0:08:32.425 --> 0:08:34.145 Half the time, I'm like, oh, I need a different size. 0:08:34.185 --> 0:08:35.545 I can't be bothered to go put my clothes on, 0:08:35.585 --> 0:08:37.265 go get it. I'll just leave that's. 0:08:37.145 --> 0:08:40.065 Exactly right, Whereas I'm out there getting the size above below. 0:08:40.345 --> 0:08:42.425 So we've got all the options and we're doing that 0:08:42.745 --> 0:08:45.225 in real time, bang bang bang yes no, yes no. 0:08:45.465 --> 0:08:47.705 So it ends up banging a much more efficient way 0:08:47.745 --> 0:08:48.745 to go shopping. 0:08:48.745 --> 0:08:50.985 And speaking of in real time. So you take these 0:08:50.985 --> 0:08:53.225 clients shopping rever possible. Do you ever work with people 0:08:53.305 --> 0:08:55.385 that are into state? Do you have people that shop 0:08:55.425 --> 0:08:58.225 online or do you ever recommend, you know, online purchases. 0:08:58.545 --> 0:08:59.185 Absolutely. 0:08:59.265 --> 0:09:01.385 The nature of how we do our retail what I 0:09:01.425 --> 0:09:03.905 call our retail appointment together, because we start with the 0:09:03.905 --> 0:09:07.425 wardrobe board at their house, in their own wardrobe. Part 0:09:07.425 --> 0:09:11.505 two is the retail appointment. That has changed significantly in 0:09:11.625 --> 0:09:14.545 the last four or five years since COVID, So pretty 0:09:14.585 --> 0:09:16.665 much the model now is I will go back to 0:09:16.665 --> 0:09:19.145 with clients with a full recommendations list and it is 0:09:19.225 --> 0:09:22.105 largely online. Now some things we will do in person 0:09:22.105 --> 0:09:24.785 at retail, but largely it will be online. And that 0:09:24.865 --> 0:09:27.145 again depends on the client and the brief and what 0:09:27.185 --> 0:09:29.825 we're trying to fulfill. It is a mix, but it 0:09:29.905 --> 0:09:32.665 is definitely skewing more towards online. And then we go 0:09:34.265 --> 0:09:36.105 we are fitting, and this is where it gets even better, 0:09:36.145 --> 0:09:37.945 because we do a fitting then at the house and 0:09:37.985 --> 0:09:40.585 we are trying all the pieces on with their existing 0:09:40.865 --> 0:09:46.065 items of clothing okay, their accessories in their own personal environment, 0:09:46.585 --> 0:09:48.585 and it just makes for a I think a more 0:09:48.665 --> 0:09:51.025 efficient experience at getting the whole. 0:09:50.785 --> 0:09:52.865 Big picture kind of a wardrobe at it, and then 0:09:52.865 --> 0:09:55.465 a shopping situation of some sort. And then at the end, 0:09:55.465 --> 0:09:57.385 it's kind of pulling together the older than new. 0:09:57.625 --> 0:09:58.465 Pulling it all together. 0:09:58.585 --> 0:10:01.585 We're integrating the new items that we're using to rework 0:10:01.625 --> 0:10:03.825 and refresh their old existing items because we don't just 0:10:03.865 --> 0:10:06.145 throw obviously, we don't just come in and move everything out. 0:10:06.305 --> 0:10:08.625 I'm going into the eye to say they're great, but 0:10:08.625 --> 0:10:10.065 we're going to wear them this way. We're going to 0:10:10.065 --> 0:10:12.425 try those pants with a whole different concept of top 0:10:12.505 --> 0:10:15.025 or a different shape blazer. So we sort of em 0:10:15.145 --> 0:10:17.465 up the things that are certainly there with potential. We 0:10:17.505 --> 0:10:19.105 then bring in the new items that are going to 0:10:19.105 --> 0:10:21.305 just update and refresh what they have, and we just 0:10:21.425 --> 0:10:23.705 do a massive, big fitting together at the end. And 0:10:23.745 --> 0:10:26.825 then that allows them to get a big picture, complete 0:10:26.865 --> 0:10:28.585 sense of how their wardrobe is going to work for 0:10:28.625 --> 0:10:30.385 them and how they're going to get dressed every day 0:10:30.585 --> 0:10:32.665 because seeing it in situ. 0:10:32.545 --> 0:10:34.745 And you need to write because otherwise you just think, oh, 0:10:34.785 --> 0:10:36.465 that new top goes with those pants. But actually, if 0:10:36.505 --> 0:10:38.345 you take the time to work out all the combos, 0:10:38.345 --> 0:10:39.865 you've got so much more to wear than you think 0:10:39.865 --> 0:10:42.025 you do. You've got some great tips. So you have 0:10:42.305 --> 0:10:44.865 three objectives, and I want to break down each of them. 0:10:44.945 --> 0:10:47.905 Their first is finding the blueprint to your wardrobe, the 0:10:47.985 --> 0:10:50.305 second is the style uniform, and then the thirty is 0:10:50.385 --> 0:10:52.625 unlocking the way women get dressed in the morning. So 0:10:52.865 --> 0:10:56.425 kind of three steps. Can you explain the blueprint? First? 0:10:56.665 --> 0:10:57.505 Well, I guess when I. 0:10:57.465 --> 0:11:02.025 Say blueprint, it really is identifying and establishing what your 0:11:02.065 --> 0:11:04.385 personal style is. So once we get a handle on 0:11:04.465 --> 0:11:06.705 what that is, we can then sort of put some 0:11:06.745 --> 0:11:08.825 pigs in the ground, if you like, What are the 0:11:08.865 --> 0:11:11.505 items of clothes that are going to contribute to that 0:11:11.585 --> 0:11:12.825 sort of style blueprint? 0:11:12.905 --> 0:11:15.705 Okay, what are the things you need? Once we establish 0:11:15.825 --> 0:11:19.065 what that blueprint is, it just makes every future purchase 0:11:19.265 --> 0:11:20.025 a little easier. 0:11:20.225 --> 0:11:22.905 Yes, and it relates back to what you have, how 0:11:22.945 --> 0:11:24.545 you get dressed, how you want to look. 0:11:24.705 --> 0:11:27.185 How can someone at home establish their blueprint? They don't 0:11:27.185 --> 0:11:29.905 have a you there. Do they look at their ten 0:11:29.905 --> 0:11:32.065 percent the stuff they wear all the time? Do they 0:11:32.625 --> 0:11:35.105 assess their lifestyle? You know, they've got a toddler, they're 0:11:35.145 --> 0:11:36.945 out on the floor. You know, they're a lawyer and 0:11:36.985 --> 0:11:39.785 they've always got to wear, you know, a certain style. 0:11:39.985 --> 0:11:42.105 How does one find their blueprint? 0:11:42.465 --> 0:11:45.865 Get a big clothing rack or two, pull out everything 0:11:46.225 --> 0:11:49.425 and start organizing into groups. Pull out the things you 0:11:49.465 --> 0:11:52.425 wear all the time, okay they're over there. Pull out 0:11:52.465 --> 0:11:55.025 the things you really wish you could wear more of, 0:11:55.105 --> 0:11:56.865 but you're a little bit unsure as to how to 0:11:56.945 --> 0:11:58.785 do that. They're the things you really like that you 0:11:58.865 --> 0:12:00.985 find appealing from a style point of view. 0:12:01.305 --> 0:12:02.545 Put those on another rack. 0:12:02.865 --> 0:12:04.665 Put the things that you just have in warning ages 0:12:04.705 --> 0:12:06.785 and you've got no idea why they're still hanging around 0:12:06.785 --> 0:12:08.985 taking out wardrobe space. Put them on another rack, and 0:12:09.025 --> 0:12:12.745 then a picture just slowly emerges. Okay, I'm wearing those 0:12:12.785 --> 0:12:14.345 things all the time. Am I wearing them because I 0:12:14.425 --> 0:12:16.785 want to? Or it's just a default position because I'm 0:12:16.865 --> 0:12:17.345 used to it. 0:12:18.025 --> 0:12:19.785 Little threads will start to emerge. 0:12:19.825 --> 0:12:22.505 Now obviously if I'm there, I can sort of make 0:12:22.505 --> 0:12:25.545 that connection a little faster, But it does become obvious. 0:12:25.665 --> 0:12:27.225 You can see what you're wearing a lot of you 0:12:27.225 --> 0:12:29.745 can see what's sparking, enjoy what you like wearing, and 0:12:29.785 --> 0:12:32.585 then you can sort of define what are those pieces 0:12:32.625 --> 0:12:34.945 that make me feel good that I feel good in 0:12:35.225 --> 0:12:37.105 that I want to wear more of, And it. 0:12:37.065 --> 0:12:39.065 Kind of just starts to gain a little bit of ments. 0:12:39.385 --> 0:12:42.265 Makes sense, it does, So that's working out the blueprint. 0:12:42.305 --> 0:12:43.825 And then from there, I guess we're left with what 0:12:43.865 --> 0:12:47.705 you call the style uniform, which everybody has. But everyone 0:12:47.785 --> 0:12:49.905 must have a different style uniform. 0:12:49.545 --> 0:12:51.465 One hundred percent. No one's meant to look the same. 0:12:51.505 --> 0:12:53.545 That's all a bit no thank you. 0:12:53.705 --> 0:12:56.185 A lot of people will associate the word uniform have 0:12:56.225 --> 0:12:57.665 a negative connotation about it. 0:12:57.665 --> 0:12:59.865 It sounds a bit boring, but it doesn't. But that's 0:12:59.865 --> 0:13:01.425 not what we mean, not at all. 0:13:01.585 --> 0:13:04.065 And when I say uniform, I really just mean pertaining 0:13:04.105 --> 0:13:08.265 to the individual woman and client, because I think a 0:13:08.305 --> 0:13:11.025 lot of people find sort of solace and assurance in 0:13:11.105 --> 0:13:14.625 having a little bit of a boundary or a uniform definition, 0:13:14.665 --> 0:13:16.465 which is okay, what does uniform mean? 0:13:16.505 --> 0:13:18.985 Well, it means it's a collection of pieces that I 0:13:19.065 --> 0:13:21.825 wear that I like that all work together. 0:13:22.105 --> 0:13:25.545 So I guess my big thing when working with clients 0:13:25.585 --> 0:13:28.265 is I want to establish a framework of clothes, let's 0:13:28.265 --> 0:13:31.305 call that their uniform that all work together more than 0:13:31.345 --> 0:13:31.785 one way. 0:13:31.905 --> 0:13:33.945 Things that we're not going to have really. 0:13:33.705 --> 0:13:37.745 Are items that sit on their own in isolation, that 0:13:37.865 --> 0:13:38.985 don't really do anything. 0:13:39.105 --> 0:13:40.945 Yeah, but you've got to work hard to work out 0:13:40.945 --> 0:13:43.385 how to wear them, because clothes shouldn't be that way exactly. 0:13:43.425 --> 0:13:44.945 Like, you look at them and you think, I want 0:13:44.945 --> 0:13:46.425 to wear that, but I've got no idea what's going 0:13:46.465 --> 0:13:48.425 with that? Is it a skirt that then brings a 0:13:48.505 --> 0:13:51.065 top and a shoe issue with it? Is it a 0:13:51.185 --> 0:13:53.825 random top that makes no sense with your color palette 0:13:53.825 --> 0:13:56.305 and the tones of the other items in your wardrobe. 0:13:56.465 --> 0:13:59.265 So once we kind of move those things on, we 0:13:59.305 --> 0:14:02.865 then introduce shapes and colors and things that all kind 0:14:02.905 --> 0:14:03.545 of work together. 0:14:03.625 --> 0:14:05.105 So you can basically. 0:14:04.745 --> 0:14:06.745 Put six of your tops with two pezz of your 0:14:06.745 --> 0:14:09.025 pants and all of a sudden, how's my MAT's going 0:14:09.065 --> 0:14:10.945 twelve different looks more? 0:14:11.385 --> 0:14:13.825 And that's kind of you captual wardrobe, but instead of 0:14:13.865 --> 0:14:15.905 sort of there's so many terms for it, but it's 0:14:15.985 --> 0:14:19.065 kind of almost going through your wardrobe, working out your blueprint, 0:14:19.065 --> 0:14:21.945 and then you're like, oh, that's my style uniform, and 0:14:21.985 --> 0:14:26.145 then you can buy more of the similar look or 0:14:26.385 --> 0:14:29.105 length or whatever, because you know that's what you're subconsciously 0:14:29.225 --> 0:14:32.265 throwing on every morning. It's just making that conscious Okay, 0:14:32.265 --> 0:14:34.265 this is my uniform exactly. 0:14:34.305 --> 0:14:36.665 It's like we need to blow it all up to 0:14:36.945 --> 0:14:40.025 bring it back together with less pieces that prove their worth, 0:14:40.265 --> 0:14:42.945 that show how they work a multitude of ways. 0:14:43.105 --> 0:14:46.745 Yes, Like, honestly, we are not buying a blazer unless. 0:14:46.465 --> 0:14:49.625 It works three ways good across a number of different 0:14:49.665 --> 0:14:51.585 dress codes, and if it doesn't get that tick of 0:14:51.585 --> 0:14:54.585 approval for me, it's not coming home with the client. 0:14:55.065 --> 0:14:56.665 It's so funny you say that because I did a 0:14:56.665 --> 0:14:58.105 mini clear out on the weekend and there was this 0:14:58.145 --> 0:15:00.865 blazer that I bought but still had tags on maybe 0:15:00.945 --> 0:15:03.105 nine months ago, and I tried to make her work. 0:15:03.185 --> 0:15:06.145 I love the color, but it's just not part of 0:15:06.145 --> 0:15:07.945 my style uniform. And I was trying to make the 0:15:07.945 --> 0:15:10.745 blazer fit into my style and it just didn't. So 0:15:10.825 --> 0:15:13.945 I've donated her. Someone will love her. I liked her 0:15:13.945 --> 0:15:15.745 on her own, but she did not form part of 0:15:15.785 --> 0:15:16.745 my style uniform. 0:15:17.225 --> 0:15:19.145 That's kind of it, right, That is sort of my 0:15:19.825 --> 0:15:23.505 whole ethos with my clients. It's things that don't make sense, 0:15:23.545 --> 0:15:26.105 that don't then fit into the picture that we create. 0:15:26.185 --> 0:15:37.585 We need to park those for now. Now, having said 0:15:37.625 --> 0:15:40.745 all of that, you absolutely can have an item that 0:15:40.785 --> 0:15:43.825 sparks joy and is therefore no other reason than it 0:15:43.865 --> 0:15:45.465 makes you happy and you love it. 0:15:45.505 --> 0:15:48.865 So it's not all just rules and regulations of all 0:15:48.905 --> 0:15:49.785 the extra. 0:15:49.825 --> 0:15:51.865 I guess that's sort of different. Like you say, spark joy, 0:15:51.865 --> 0:15:53.985 it's kind of the Marie Condo of your wardrobe. It's 0:15:53.985 --> 0:15:57.025 like that sparks joy. But we're talking style uniform day 0:15:57.025 --> 0:16:00.585 to day, so that our busy, rushed mornings aren't spent 0:16:00.705 --> 0:16:02.905 forty five minutes trying to make that bloody blazer work. 0:16:03.905 --> 0:16:05.465 It is all about at the end of the day, 0:16:05.585 --> 0:16:08.745 my whole process with clients is about making getting dressed 0:16:08.785 --> 0:16:09.665 every day easier. 0:16:10.145 --> 0:16:11.985 And that's what I want to ask you about, because 0:16:12.025 --> 0:16:16.545 you finally touch on unlocking getting dressed in the morning 0:16:16.585 --> 0:16:19.305 and not hating it and feeling frenzied and throwing clothes 0:16:19.305 --> 0:16:21.785 all over the floor or throwing on something that doesn't 0:16:21.785 --> 0:16:24.585 make you feel good. So how does this work? How 0:16:24.625 --> 0:16:26.545 do we enjoy getting dressed in the morning. 0:16:27.025 --> 0:16:29.705 By the time that I've gone through the process with 0:16:29.785 --> 0:16:32.145 my clients from sort of the wardrobe board it through 0:16:32.185 --> 0:16:35.185 the retail appointment to the fitting where we do a 0:16:35.225 --> 0:16:39.305 styling session and fitting at home, we've demonstrated. 0:16:38.785 --> 0:16:42.185 Fifty looks and I photograph it. I put it together for. 0:16:42.145 --> 0:16:44.145 The client with So do you have them put on 0:16:44.185 --> 0:16:45.785 the outfit and your photograph. 0:16:45.385 --> 0:16:47.145 It one million percent? 0:16:47.705 --> 0:16:49.585 So then they've got a little bible of outfits to 0:16:49.665 --> 0:16:50.105 look through. 0:16:50.505 --> 0:16:50.785 Percent. 0:16:50.945 --> 0:16:53.665 It's like inspo for the Tuesday morning when it's six 0:16:53.705 --> 0:16:55.945 degrees in Melbourne. You've lost the will to leave. You've 0:16:55.985 --> 0:16:58.185 got to be for a meeting. What the heck am 0:16:58.225 --> 0:17:03.545 I wearing page twelve done, done, and it's just a guideline. 0:17:03.585 --> 0:17:06.305 It will spark thoughts on how to put other pieces together. 0:17:06.385 --> 0:17:09.665 Obviously it's not entirely conclusive. It can't be every single combat. 0:17:10.265 --> 0:17:12.385