1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,305 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,345 --> 00:00:18,385 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,465 --> 00:00:21,025 Speaker 1: is recorded on I'm not a product snob. If it works, 4 00:00:21,065 --> 00:00:25,305 Speaker 1: it works. Makeup is my therapy. I'm in love, I'm 5 00:00:25,345 --> 00:00:27,865 Speaker 1: obsess and I don't even feel guilty about it. 6 00:00:30,385 --> 00:00:33,345 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for 7 00:00:33,385 --> 00:00:37,345 Speaker 2: your Face. I'm there in Dougherty and welcome to the Formula. 8 00:00:37,465 --> 00:00:39,505 Speaker 2: Every week I sit down with celebs and some of 9 00:00:39,545 --> 00:00:41,865 Speaker 2: the biggest names in beauty and take a look into 10 00:00:41,865 --> 00:00:45,425 Speaker 2: their skincarey teams. Today on the Formula, we're speaking to 11 00:00:45,505 --> 00:00:50,265 Speaker 2: someone who truly does it all. She's a model, actor, ambassador, 12 00:00:50,425 --> 00:00:55,185 Speaker 2: and businesswoman. It's none other than Ellie Gonsalvez. Starting her 13 00:00:55,225 --> 00:00:58,585 Speaker 2: modeling career at just thirteen, she has graced the pages 14 00:00:58,625 --> 00:01:02,185 Speaker 2: of Vogue and L making her mark in the fashion world. 15 00:01:02,665 --> 00:01:06,785 Speaker 2: She's got over five million social media followers. She's fronted 16 00:01:06,865 --> 00:01:11,665 Speaker 2: magazines and worked with brands like Laurel prefer Fenty Beauty, Gucci, 17 00:01:11,825 --> 00:01:15,305 Speaker 2: and Ulla Hendricksen. Today, Ellie sits down to chat through 18 00:01:15,305 --> 00:01:19,065 Speaker 2: her ultimate self care routine, plus her holistic approach to 19 00:01:19,105 --> 00:01:22,425 Speaker 2: beauty and the way focusing on wellness is her biggest 20 00:01:22,465 --> 00:01:23,225 Speaker 2: beauty secret. 21 00:01:23,625 --> 00:01:25,865 Speaker 1: Ye are such beautiful skin. 22 00:01:25,705 --> 00:01:30,985 Speaker 2: But how Ellie, thank you so much for joining us today. 23 00:01:31,185 --> 00:01:33,865 Speaker 2: Your skin looks glowy as ever. We want to get 24 00:01:33,865 --> 00:01:36,465 Speaker 2: into it. Tell me a little bit about your skin journey. 25 00:01:36,505 --> 00:01:38,945 Speaker 2: What's it been like and what kind of skin concerns 26 00:01:38,945 --> 00:01:39,905 Speaker 2: have you experienced. 27 00:01:40,265 --> 00:01:42,425 Speaker 1: I think my skin has always been like a reflection 28 00:01:42,785 --> 00:01:46,865 Speaker 1: of how I'm treating my body. So through my teenage years, 29 00:01:47,305 --> 00:01:49,745 Speaker 1: like I never had bad acne. I was sort of 30 00:01:49,825 --> 00:01:52,425 Speaker 1: raised on this like really healthy diet. I was very active. 31 00:01:52,945 --> 00:01:56,265 Speaker 1: But I started noticing when I was in my teens, 32 00:01:56,305 --> 00:01:59,305 Speaker 1: when I started drinking. I noticed the effects that it 33 00:01:59,345 --> 00:02:02,465 Speaker 1: was having on my body, on my skin. So really 34 00:02:02,505 --> 00:02:04,545 Speaker 1: like it's been a very big reflection on how I've 35 00:02:04,545 --> 00:02:07,025 Speaker 1: been treating my body. So when I turned eighteen and 36 00:02:07,065 --> 00:02:10,265 Speaker 1: I took my health and wellness very very seriously, I 37 00:02:10,305 --> 00:02:13,665 Speaker 1: started seeing huge improvements in my skin. This is like 38 00:02:13,705 --> 00:02:17,345 Speaker 1: my number one tip for anyone on skin is stop 39 00:02:17,585 --> 00:02:20,545 Speaker 1: sitting in the sun. I stopped when I was eighteen, 40 00:02:20,705 --> 00:02:22,505 Speaker 1: and it was the best thing I possibly could have 41 00:02:22,545 --> 00:02:25,105 Speaker 1: done for my skin. I look back on it. I 42 00:02:25,225 --> 00:02:28,385 Speaker 1: used to be in the sun so often and the 43 00:02:28,465 --> 00:02:30,825 Speaker 1: damage that it would have kept doing to my skin. 44 00:02:30,865 --> 00:02:32,825 Speaker 1: And if I kept that up until I'm now thirty 45 00:02:32,825 --> 00:02:36,825 Speaker 1: three years old, it would be so expensive to repair 46 00:02:36,865 --> 00:02:40,505 Speaker 1: that damage. And someone told me all of the skin 47 00:02:40,625 --> 00:02:44,385 Speaker 1: damage that you get mostly happens before you turn eighteen, 48 00:02:45,185 --> 00:02:48,465 Speaker 1: So that was one thing that I always kept in mind. 49 00:02:48,505 --> 00:02:50,745 Speaker 1: But what you give it is what you get. Our 50 00:02:50,745 --> 00:02:54,265 Speaker 1: body tells us what it's not liking and gives us 51 00:02:54,345 --> 00:02:56,545 Speaker 1: all of the signs. It's just about being able to 52 00:02:56,585 --> 00:03:00,225 Speaker 1: listen to those signs and realize what our body's reacting. 53 00:02:59,865 --> 00:03:03,745 Speaker 2: To those tanning days. It just make me croone when 54 00:03:03,785 --> 00:03:06,585 Speaker 2: I think back to it. Tell me a little bit 55 00:03:06,625 --> 00:03:10,385 Speaker 2: about the skin carechens that you're excited about right now. 56 00:03:10,665 --> 00:03:15,665 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about the minimalistic skincare routines. I think 57 00:03:15,745 --> 00:03:18,625 Speaker 1: we've gone through a bit of a phase of you 58 00:03:18,745 --> 00:03:21,745 Speaker 1: need millions of products to make your skin look amazing, 59 00:03:21,985 --> 00:03:25,465 Speaker 1: and for me, I am quite simple when it comes 60 00:03:25,465 --> 00:03:28,865 Speaker 1: to my skincare routine. Every day, I have my morning routine, 61 00:03:28,865 --> 00:03:31,225 Speaker 1: and I have my nightly routine, and then I also 62 00:03:31,305 --> 00:03:35,825 Speaker 1: have my first day tan day skincare routine. I'm such 63 00:03:35,865 --> 00:03:39,945 Speaker 1: a huge skincare pampa girly and something that I really 64 00:03:39,945 --> 00:03:41,985 Speaker 1: look forward to every week and then all ten and 65 00:03:42,025 --> 00:03:44,265 Speaker 1: I feel like a whole new person. It's like a 66 00:03:44,345 --> 00:03:45,985 Speaker 1: full face and body transplant. 67 00:03:46,505 --> 00:03:49,305 Speaker 2: But that's what self care Sunday is all about. I 68 00:03:49,345 --> 00:03:52,265 Speaker 2: am here for it. But I totally agree with you there. 69 00:03:52,585 --> 00:03:54,905 Speaker 2: I think during COVID we all just went ham on 70 00:03:54,905 --> 00:03:58,225 Speaker 2: our faces with lots of actives. I'm a big fan 71 00:03:58,425 --> 00:04:02,265 Speaker 2: of the minimalistic skincare routine, so I want to get 72 00:04:02,265 --> 00:04:06,505 Speaker 2: into your actual routine. Let's dive into your favorite products, 73 00:04:06,505 --> 00:04:08,385 Speaker 2: starting off with what you do in the morning. 74 00:04:10,105 --> 00:04:11,785 Speaker 1: I mean, what is your self carety? 75 00:04:11,985 --> 00:04:13,265 Speaker 2: Give us the dirty detail. 76 00:04:16,385 --> 00:04:21,105 Speaker 1: So I actually start with the Kylo skincare cleanser. Recently, 77 00:04:21,305 --> 00:04:23,945 Speaker 1: over the last few months, got introduced to it by 78 00:04:24,025 --> 00:04:29,345 Speaker 1: Kylo at the Meddi Spa. Always use the Kilo moisturizer 79 00:04:29,385 --> 00:04:32,145 Speaker 1: to follow up. It's really hydrating. It's actually really really 80 00:04:32,185 --> 00:04:36,465 Speaker 1: good for redness and inflammation. It just makes your texture 81 00:04:36,505 --> 00:04:39,665 Speaker 1: look really beautiful and like your skin super plump and flawless. 82 00:04:39,985 --> 00:04:42,385 Speaker 2: Is that like a gel formula or is that a 83 00:04:42,425 --> 00:04:44,705 Speaker 2: heavier creamia or milky formula. 84 00:04:44,945 --> 00:04:47,185 Speaker 1: I get combination skin, so I have to be careful 85 00:04:47,185 --> 00:04:50,465 Speaker 1: that I'm not overdoing it. It's not super heavy and thick. 86 00:04:50,505 --> 00:04:52,505 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a bit of a mix between 87 00:04:52,545 --> 00:04:55,425 Speaker 1: a gel and a cream, but it gives you that 88 00:04:55,625 --> 00:04:59,665 Speaker 1: really hydrated without feeling like oily or too heavy. Because 89 00:04:59,705 --> 00:05:03,185 Speaker 1: I don't like having heavy moisturizer under my makeup, especially, 90 00:05:03,425 --> 00:05:07,465 Speaker 1: I've got like a nice cinemaide and zeeing serum. I 91 00:05:07,585 --> 00:05:12,065 Speaker 1: do a very very light vitamin C serum as well. 92 00:05:12,305 --> 00:05:16,025 Speaker 1: I actually love using the Olla Hendrix and Banana B 93 00:05:16,345 --> 00:05:19,945 Speaker 1: vitamin C serum. I find that the dosage of that 94 00:05:20,185 --> 00:05:23,025 Speaker 1: is always wonderful for my skin, and that doesn't give 95 00:05:23,025 --> 00:05:25,425 Speaker 1: me that vitamin C flare up. It's just one of 96 00:05:25,425 --> 00:05:28,865 Speaker 1: those really high quality products that sit beautifully with the 97 00:05:28,865 --> 00:05:31,145 Speaker 1: rest of your skin care. Sometimes I have to be 98 00:05:31,185 --> 00:05:33,465 Speaker 1: really careful because my skin can be a little bit 99 00:05:33,505 --> 00:05:35,705 Speaker 1: sensitive to vitamin C, so I've got to have one 100 00:05:35,745 --> 00:05:39,025 Speaker 1: that's not super super strong but still gives me that 101 00:05:39,225 --> 00:05:43,865 Speaker 1: really amazing brightening effect to my skin. I find having 102 00:05:43,865 --> 00:05:46,545 Speaker 1: that vitamin C serum just like makes my skin look 103 00:05:46,585 --> 00:05:49,945 Speaker 1: really beautiful and bright, and it's one thing I feel 104 00:05:49,985 --> 00:05:52,785 Speaker 1: like my skin care needs. But I obviously have to 105 00:05:52,825 --> 00:05:54,825 Speaker 1: be really careful about the dose of it because I 106 00:05:54,905 --> 00:05:57,025 Speaker 1: do get like a little bit of a It's not 107 00:05:57,065 --> 00:05:59,225 Speaker 1: like dermatitis, but it's like I used to get like 108 00:05:59,265 --> 00:06:03,585 Speaker 1: this little stress rash. Vitamin C would always amplify it 109 00:06:03,785 --> 00:06:07,145 Speaker 1: and flare it up, so I had to like test 110 00:06:07,145 --> 00:06:09,225 Speaker 1: and trial a few other things that I was using 111 00:06:09,225 --> 00:06:11,305 Speaker 1: at the time. I don't know, I think it's just stress. 112 00:06:11,425 --> 00:06:14,545 Speaker 1: Like sometimes your skin just changes. Like I'm thirty three, 113 00:06:14,585 --> 00:06:16,585 Speaker 1: my skin's different to what I was when I was twenty, 114 00:06:16,665 --> 00:06:18,825 Speaker 1: when I was eighteen, when I was sixteen. So really 115 00:06:19,185 --> 00:06:20,905 Speaker 1: skin for me has been like a bit of a 116 00:06:20,985 --> 00:06:23,185 Speaker 1: journey over time. It'll be the same when I'm forty, 117 00:06:23,225 --> 00:06:24,865 Speaker 1: you know, I probably won't be able to use some 118 00:06:24,905 --> 00:06:25,905 Speaker 1: things that I'm using now. 119 00:06:26,025 --> 00:06:29,105 Speaker 2: I think why doman say is such a tricky ingredient. 120 00:06:29,225 --> 00:06:30,905 Speaker 2: That and retinol as well. 121 00:06:31,225 --> 00:06:33,625 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, especially when I see the young girls 122 00:06:33,625 --> 00:06:36,745 Speaker 1: in Safaris in retinols, it makes me want to scream, 123 00:06:36,785 --> 00:06:37,665 Speaker 1: like your skin. 124 00:06:37,625 --> 00:06:40,505 Speaker 2: Barrier, you got baby skin, you don't need this. 125 00:06:41,465 --> 00:06:44,905 Speaker 1: And also like the education around it. Retinol it's a 126 00:06:45,025 --> 00:06:47,745 Speaker 1: night product and you're supposed to be heavy on the SBF, 127 00:06:47,785 --> 00:06:49,825 Speaker 1: Like there's girls out there that aren't using SBF with 128 00:06:49,865 --> 00:06:53,145 Speaker 1: any of these products, but I always finish with an SPF. 129 00:06:53,145 --> 00:06:55,985 Speaker 1: That's my rule. If I put anything on, it's SBF, 130 00:06:56,345 --> 00:06:58,185 Speaker 1: and it's on the ears, it's on the face, it's 131 00:06:58,225 --> 00:07:00,505 Speaker 1: on the neck. I use Ultraviolet. I got sent one 132 00:07:00,545 --> 00:07:03,545 Speaker 1: of their PR packages once. Sometimes a lot of sbfs 133 00:07:03,585 --> 00:07:06,425 Speaker 1: can feel like really heavy and really greasy, and that 134 00:07:06,505 --> 00:07:08,105 Speaker 1: one I put it on and I was like, oh, 135 00:07:08,185 --> 00:07:10,905 Speaker 1: this is perfect. It feels light, it doesn't affect my makeup, 136 00:07:11,305 --> 00:07:13,785 Speaker 1: it doesn't make my skin look white. It was just 137 00:07:13,865 --> 00:07:18,065 Speaker 1: a perfect thing for my skincare combo. But I also 138 00:07:18,185 --> 00:07:20,905 Speaker 1: use an I cream every single morning and every single night. 139 00:07:20,945 --> 00:07:23,105 Speaker 1: That's kind of been one of my skincare on negotiables. 140 00:07:23,425 --> 00:07:27,985 Speaker 1: It's definitely impacted how my skin has matured as well. 141 00:07:28,185 --> 00:07:32,785 Speaker 1: I don't have those fine lines from dehydration. And I'm 142 00:07:32,825 --> 00:07:36,705 Speaker 1: also a very big believer in double cleansing as well 143 00:07:36,825 --> 00:07:40,065 Speaker 1: night and morning, just to get whatever's sitting on your 144 00:07:40,065 --> 00:07:42,345 Speaker 1: skin off and then you start with a really fresh 145 00:07:42,385 --> 00:07:44,625 Speaker 1: canvas for the day or that night when you put 146 00:07:44,625 --> 00:07:47,825 Speaker 1: your skin care on. There's nothing worse than feeling like 147 00:07:47,905 --> 00:07:49,905 Speaker 1: I still have makeup on my neck or around my 148 00:07:49,945 --> 00:07:53,185 Speaker 1: ears or in these little nooks and crannies where it's 149 00:07:53,225 --> 00:07:55,105 Speaker 1: like so hard to get your makeup out. 150 00:07:55,065 --> 00:07:58,425 Speaker 2: Of, especially when you're wearing sunscreen and makeup every day. 151 00:07:58,465 --> 00:07:59,545 Speaker 2: It's so important. 152 00:07:59,825 --> 00:08:01,825 Speaker 1: Yes, and in a full, deep cleanse because I love 153 00:08:01,825 --> 00:08:04,225 Speaker 1: a full beat girl. Sometimes I love the glass skin look, 154 00:08:04,265 --> 00:08:06,745 Speaker 1: but sometimes I just like, I love makeup. I love 155 00:08:06,745 --> 00:08:10,025 Speaker 1: the whole routine of putting it on. I watch my 156 00:08:10,345 --> 00:08:14,065 Speaker 1: Vogue YouTube videos of like Haley Baber doing home makeup, 157 00:08:14,065 --> 00:08:16,025 Speaker 1: all them all like going through their bags, Like it's 158 00:08:16,025 --> 00:08:18,905 Speaker 1: such a nice routine for me in the mornings or 159 00:08:18,945 --> 00:08:21,465 Speaker 1: whenever I'm going to an event or you know, I've 160 00:08:21,505 --> 00:08:23,745 Speaker 1: got a full day of meetings or something like. I 161 00:08:23,905 --> 00:08:25,425 Speaker 1: just love the glam look. 162 00:08:34,865 --> 00:08:38,105 Speaker 2: So you touched on using retinol in your night routine 163 00:08:38,345 --> 00:08:40,545 Speaker 2: after you double clans what's next. 164 00:08:40,785 --> 00:08:43,425 Speaker 1: I love the Ol Hendricks and Dark Spotona. I've actually 165 00:08:43,465 --> 00:08:45,905 Speaker 1: been using them for quite a few years now. It's 166 00:08:45,945 --> 00:08:48,905 Speaker 1: just such an impressive skincare brand, and I love the 167 00:08:49,025 --> 00:08:51,985 Speaker 1: variety of skincare products that they have as well. But 168 00:08:52,065 --> 00:08:55,065 Speaker 1: I find like that sets my skin for the rest 169 00:08:55,105 --> 00:08:58,945 Speaker 1: of my beauty routine for night, and then I'll follow 170 00:08:58,985 --> 00:09:04,465 Speaker 1: it up with a retinal serum from the ordinary and 171 00:09:05,025 --> 00:09:08,385 Speaker 1: then I have my nice mind and zinc. That's probably 172 00:09:08,425 --> 00:09:12,185 Speaker 1: the one product I really find that is crucial to 173 00:09:12,305 --> 00:09:14,865 Speaker 1: my skincare and having no breakout. 174 00:09:15,225 --> 00:09:18,185 Speaker 2: Oh niceinamide is just amazing, oh amazing. 175 00:09:18,425 --> 00:09:20,985 Speaker 1: It's unreal. If I run out of that product and 176 00:09:21,025 --> 00:09:22,865 Speaker 1: I don't have it for a few days, I instantly 177 00:09:22,945 --> 00:09:26,505 Speaker 1: notice my skin just change a little bit, and then 178 00:09:26,545 --> 00:09:28,625 Speaker 1: I do like a little bit of a salicilic acid. 179 00:09:29,145 --> 00:09:31,865 Speaker 1: Most of my serums are from the ordinary. It's just 180 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:35,745 Speaker 1: such an affordable product as well, but I've found that 181 00:09:36,025 --> 00:09:39,705 Speaker 1: my skin just responds so well to that product. I'm 182 00:09:39,745 --> 00:09:42,145 Speaker 1: not a product snob. If it works, it works. I'm 183 00:09:42,185 --> 00:09:46,585 Speaker 1: not all about just using a super expensive skincare brand 184 00:09:46,945 --> 00:09:48,505 Speaker 1: just for the hell of it, because you know it's 185 00:09:48,545 --> 00:09:50,625 Speaker 1: supposed to be the best in the business. But I 186 00:09:50,665 --> 00:09:54,945 Speaker 1: always love to ask my dermatologist if I should be 187 00:09:55,025 --> 00:09:57,905 Speaker 1: using that product with other products, because sometimes they just 188 00:09:57,905 --> 00:10:00,825 Speaker 1: don't go together. So I think that skincare education aspect 189 00:10:00,945 --> 00:10:03,745 Speaker 1: is really really important. When you are using things like 190 00:10:03,825 --> 00:10:07,825 Speaker 1: retinols and retinoids and salicylic acid, It's like you really 191 00:10:07,825 --> 00:10:10,905 Speaker 1: need to know the product process of like how you're 192 00:10:10,905 --> 00:10:13,065 Speaker 1: supposed to put it on and layer it and everything. 193 00:10:13,145 --> 00:10:15,345 Speaker 1: So it's just like the most effective that it can be. 194 00:10:15,745 --> 00:10:18,865 Speaker 2: Have you ever used certain products or ingredients that just 195 00:10:18,945 --> 00:10:22,305 Speaker 2: don't work well together and have made your skin freak out? 196 00:10:22,545 --> 00:10:26,585 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've definitely had like not crazy adverse reactions to things, 197 00:10:26,625 --> 00:10:29,905 Speaker 1: but I think a high dose of vitamin C that's 198 00:10:29,985 --> 00:10:33,945 Speaker 1: always sort of like brought out the little rashes or 199 00:10:34,145 --> 00:10:36,905 Speaker 1: little things in my skin. But yeah, it's always about 200 00:10:36,905 --> 00:10:38,825 Speaker 1: the dosage for me of certain products. 201 00:10:38,905 --> 00:10:42,425 Speaker 2: Yes, everyone that look at the percentages, I swear sometimes 202 00:10:42,505 --> 00:10:45,905 Speaker 2: it's so sneaky, like I'll use a product and then realize, like, whoa, 203 00:10:45,985 --> 00:10:48,465 Speaker 2: my skin is going to fall off. You also mentioned 204 00:10:48,465 --> 00:10:50,625 Speaker 2: an I cream. I want to know what it is. 205 00:10:51,145 --> 00:10:53,985 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, So I love the Lamaier I cream, 206 00:10:54,305 --> 00:10:57,785 Speaker 1: but I also find I'll have that at night if 207 00:10:57,785 --> 00:11:01,425 Speaker 1: I feel like my skin's really dehydrated, or I opt 208 00:11:01,585 --> 00:11:03,585 Speaker 1: for a lighter one in the morning, which is from 209 00:11:03,585 --> 00:11:06,425 Speaker 1: the ordinary as well. It's more like a Serumi gel 210 00:11:06,585 --> 00:11:10,825 Speaker 1: kind of consistency, and I find it is just really 211 00:11:10,865 --> 00:11:13,625 Speaker 1: really nicely under makeup as well. It doesn't give you 212 00:11:13,705 --> 00:11:17,225 Speaker 1: that like sticky consistency. It doesn't make your concealer like 213 00:11:17,385 --> 00:11:20,145 Speaker 1: roll off when you're applicating because sometimes those I creams 214 00:11:20,785 --> 00:11:23,785 Speaker 1: can make your makeup not sit the way that it's 215 00:11:23,785 --> 00:11:26,145 Speaker 1: supposed to, and you just want like the most perfect 216 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:29,185 Speaker 1: canvas to do your clam because then like, what a 217 00:11:29,185 --> 00:11:33,225 Speaker 1: waste of product you There's honestly nothing worse than when 218 00:11:33,225 --> 00:11:35,745 Speaker 1: you've done your skin care routine and you're doing your 219 00:11:35,745 --> 00:11:39,145 Speaker 1: makeup and everything is just peeling and sliding around everywhere. 220 00:11:39,585 --> 00:11:40,665 Speaker 1: It makes you want to scream. 221 00:11:40,905 --> 00:11:43,585 Speaker 2: That cream that you mentioned, I know that's got caffeine 222 00:11:43,585 --> 00:11:46,145 Speaker 2: in it, so it's great for brightening your skin up 223 00:11:46,185 --> 00:11:48,905 Speaker 2: in the morning. You also mentioned your self care routine, 224 00:11:49,105 --> 00:11:52,305 Speaker 2: the one day a week when you go and just 225 00:11:52,425 --> 00:11:54,705 Speaker 2: pmpy yourself. Tell me a little bit about it. 226 00:11:54,705 --> 00:11:56,585 Speaker 1: It's usually on a Thursday, because I love to do 227 00:11:56,625 --> 00:11:58,185 Speaker 1: my tan on a Thursday. You have a great tan 228 00:11:58,265 --> 00:12:00,065 Speaker 1: for the weekend and then for the rest of the 229 00:12:00,105 --> 00:12:02,545 Speaker 1: beginning of the next week. But what I'll do is 230 00:12:02,585 --> 00:12:05,625 Speaker 1: I literally will run a bath, like a pretty hot bath, 231 00:12:06,305 --> 00:12:09,265 Speaker 1: and I'll let my skin soak in the tub for 232 00:12:09,305 --> 00:12:11,505 Speaker 1: a while so it's easy to lift off an x folio, 233 00:12:11,545 --> 00:12:14,225 Speaker 1: because there's nothing worse than not being able to get 234 00:12:14,225 --> 00:12:16,465 Speaker 1: your tan off. And then I use like a santrapez 235 00:12:16,625 --> 00:12:19,145 Speaker 1: tan remover as well after my skin sort of had 236 00:12:19,185 --> 00:12:21,305 Speaker 1: a bit of a breather. Yeah, I'll sit in the 237 00:12:21,345 --> 00:12:25,225 Speaker 1: bath and then I'll have a shower, get all of 238 00:12:25,225 --> 00:12:29,185 Speaker 1: that tan remover off, and then I will usually dermo 239 00:12:29,225 --> 00:12:33,785 Speaker 1: plane my skin. I'll do a face mask that's like 240 00:12:33,865 --> 00:12:36,785 Speaker 1: really cooling and calming, because I find sometimes if I 241 00:12:36,785 --> 00:12:41,305 Speaker 1: dermo plane my skin and I put products on too quickly, 242 00:12:41,345 --> 00:12:42,825 Speaker 1: it can get a little bit inflame. 243 00:12:43,065 --> 00:12:43,985 Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite? 244 00:12:44,065 --> 00:12:47,505 Speaker 1: I actually love the Patrology. Their face masks are actually 245 00:12:48,185 --> 00:12:51,865 Speaker 1: really amazing, and their eyegels as well. I love to 246 00:12:51,905 --> 00:12:54,145 Speaker 1: do the hydrating one because I feel like after a 247 00:12:54,185 --> 00:12:56,185 Speaker 1: hot bath and like all of those, you know, you're 248 00:12:56,225 --> 00:12:59,225 Speaker 1: just like sitting there scrubbing your skin, you get like that. 249 00:12:59,745 --> 00:13:01,905 Speaker 1: Have you seen those tiktoks of the girls being like 250 00:13:02,065 --> 00:13:04,785 Speaker 1: I've just had my two hour like skin scrub, and 251 00:13:04,825 --> 00:13:06,865 Speaker 1: like you get dizzy when you come out because it's 252 00:13:06,905 --> 00:13:09,265 Speaker 1: so hot and you've just been sitting there like scrubbing 253 00:13:09,265 --> 00:13:09,585 Speaker 1: your skin. 254 00:13:09,745 --> 00:13:12,625 Speaker 2: There's nothing more alarming than getting out of the bath 255 00:13:12,825 --> 00:13:15,185 Speaker 2: after you've rubbed your fake tan off and just seeing 256 00:13:15,225 --> 00:13:17,705 Speaker 2: that line around the bath of dead skin. 257 00:13:17,865 --> 00:13:20,585 Speaker 1: It's disgusting. I tell my husband not to come in 258 00:13:20,665 --> 00:13:23,265 Speaker 1: when I'm doing it, but yeah, I get out, I 259 00:13:23,305 --> 00:13:26,545 Speaker 1: look like a ghost. And one thing I actually love 260 00:13:26,905 --> 00:13:30,385 Speaker 1: doing as well, ah my nails. I do my nails myself. 261 00:13:30,785 --> 00:13:32,585 Speaker 1: Just having the freedom to be able to change them 262 00:13:32,585 --> 00:13:34,665 Speaker 1: and being able to do them the way that I 263 00:13:34,745 --> 00:13:37,625 Speaker 1: want and I have the time to during the week. 264 00:13:37,785 --> 00:13:40,545 Speaker 1: It's like on my time, like I switch off. It 265 00:13:40,665 --> 00:13:44,185 Speaker 1: just makes me think about nothing other than what I'm 266 00:13:44,225 --> 00:13:47,585 Speaker 1: doing then and there, what do you used to do them? 267 00:13:47,625 --> 00:13:49,065 Speaker 2: I want to know your nail routine. 268 00:13:49,225 --> 00:13:52,025 Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually use the Jealous products g E l 269 00:13:52,145 --> 00:13:52,585 Speaker 1: o us. 270 00:13:53,225 --> 00:13:54,785 Speaker 2: Oh that is such a game changer. 271 00:13:54,945 --> 00:13:55,225 Speaker 1: I love it. 272 00:13:55,265 --> 00:13:57,745 Speaker 2: Do you like getting them done so frequently is just 273 00:13:57,985 --> 00:13:58,665 Speaker 2: too costly? 274 00:13:58,785 --> 00:14:00,665 Speaker 1: It is? And then you just also have the freedom 275 00:14:00,705 --> 00:14:03,105 Speaker 1: to be able to change your nails whenever you want, 276 00:14:03,305 --> 00:14:05,705 Speaker 1: and you can fix them and if they break, you 277 00:14:05,745 --> 00:14:08,825 Speaker 1: can just like pop a little tip on my nails 278 00:14:08,905 --> 00:14:13,585 Speaker 1: and my hair grow so fast after two weeks, I 279 00:14:13,625 --> 00:14:16,225 Speaker 1: need to get my nails done two weeks like they 280 00:14:16,265 --> 00:14:18,745 Speaker 1: are just I know. It's not a bad problem to have, 281 00:14:18,785 --> 00:14:21,265 Speaker 1: but it's annoying when you are spending one hundred and 282 00:14:21,305 --> 00:14:24,945 Speaker 1: ten dollars every two weeks to get your nails done. 283 00:14:25,025 --> 00:14:26,265 Speaker 1: It just drives me up the wall. 284 00:14:36,265 --> 00:14:39,345 Speaker 2: Hit You've made one of the greatest discoveries. 285 00:14:38,785 --> 00:14:41,105 Speaker 1: Of all time or a miss? 286 00:14:41,145 --> 00:14:44,905 Speaker 2: Never again? Never? What your skin care hit and what 287 00:14:44,985 --> 00:14:45,865 Speaker 2: your skin care miss? 288 00:14:45,985 --> 00:14:48,705 Speaker 1: I think my go to skin ingredient is collagen. 289 00:14:49,665 --> 00:14:51,145 Speaker 2: Do you mean collagen powder? 290 00:14:51,705 --> 00:14:55,465 Speaker 1: Yes? So what I actually use is the Kylo Filwell 291 00:14:55,625 --> 00:14:59,865 Speaker 1: collagen powder. We just collaborated and did an Anxious Girl Elixa, 292 00:14:59,905 --> 00:15:03,705 Speaker 1: which we launched in Times Square. But it's all about 293 00:15:03,745 --> 00:15:08,465 Speaker 1: the brain and gut connection and understanding the impact your 294 00:15:08,505 --> 00:15:11,745 Speaker 1: gut is having on your skin and even your mental 295 00:15:11,785 --> 00:15:15,185 Speaker 1: health as well. Over the last two years, due to stress, 296 00:15:15,345 --> 00:15:18,265 Speaker 1: I had all of these really bad gut problems arising. 297 00:15:18,545 --> 00:15:22,545 Speaker 1: I did like this gut microbe test from my naturopath's recommendation, 298 00:15:22,785 --> 00:15:25,905 Speaker 1: and he's like, Okay, it's coming from your gut. So 299 00:15:26,385 --> 00:15:28,345 Speaker 1: I needed to slow down for a little bit and 300 00:15:28,385 --> 00:15:32,625 Speaker 1: really prioritize my health and wellbeing. So the one product 301 00:15:32,665 --> 00:15:36,185 Speaker 1: that he actually recommended to me was the Kilo Felwell 302 00:15:36,225 --> 00:15:38,865 Speaker 1: supplement and that was my introduction to Kylo. 303 00:15:39,265 --> 00:15:41,545 Speaker 2: What kind of results have you seen after using that? 304 00:15:41,865 --> 00:15:45,265 Speaker 1: I find my hair, my skin, and my nails are 305 00:15:45,385 --> 00:15:48,505 Speaker 1: just like off the charts. My nails grow so fast, 306 00:15:48,545 --> 00:15:52,185 Speaker 1: they are so strong. My skin is literally better than 307 00:15:52,185 --> 00:15:54,865 Speaker 1: it has ever been. It's for me now, it's about 308 00:15:54,865 --> 00:15:57,105 Speaker 1: feeling a certain way, feeding my body the things that 309 00:15:57,145 --> 00:15:59,025 Speaker 1: it needs so it can really thrive, and then, like 310 00:15:59,265 --> 00:16:01,025 Speaker 1: you know, the skin care and everything on top of 311 00:16:01,065 --> 00:16:02,225 Speaker 1: that is just a bonus. 312 00:16:02,345 --> 00:16:05,625 Speaker 2: That's such an important point. I think that holistic approach 313 00:16:05,665 --> 00:16:08,745 Speaker 2: to skin is just so crucial. Yeah, tell me, have 314 00:16:08,825 --> 00:16:11,505 Speaker 2: you got a techne or ingredient that you hate or 315 00:16:11,505 --> 00:16:12,825 Speaker 2: one that just hasn't worked. 316 00:16:12,585 --> 00:16:16,145 Speaker 1: For you, maybe like a trend just overdoing it, or 317 00:16:16,185 --> 00:16:19,625 Speaker 1: a society of over consumption, especially in this economy, the 318 00:16:19,705 --> 00:16:22,705 Speaker 1: cost of living for people feeling like they need all 319 00:16:22,745 --> 00:16:26,345 Speaker 1: of these things to look or feel beautiful. I always 320 00:16:26,425 --> 00:16:29,865 Speaker 1: find is it actually genuinely upsets me that a lot 321 00:16:29,865 --> 00:16:32,425 Speaker 1: of women have all this pressure on them and they're like, 322 00:16:32,465 --> 00:16:33,785 Speaker 1: oh my god, I've got to gone by this or 323 00:16:33,785 --> 00:16:35,425 Speaker 1: I've got to gone by that it will finally give 324 00:16:35,425 --> 00:16:36,185 Speaker 1: me beautiful skin. 325 00:16:36,305 --> 00:16:40,145 Speaker 2: One hundred percent, because I think hyper consumerism is just 326 00:16:40,225 --> 00:16:42,825 Speaker 2: such a big thing right now, especially in skincare and 327 00:16:42,865 --> 00:16:45,825 Speaker 2: of course fashion. Yeah, and we can thank TikTok and 328 00:16:45,905 --> 00:16:49,225 Speaker 2: all of those social media micro trends getting around right now. 329 00:16:49,345 --> 00:16:52,145 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it's everywhere, though it's for anything 330 00:16:52,145 --> 00:16:54,065 Speaker 1: in my life. I'm like, I don't want to feel 331 00:16:54,105 --> 00:16:56,265 Speaker 1: like I've got too much of stuff, and then I 332 00:16:56,305 --> 00:16:58,785 Speaker 1: feel like I'm completely overwhelmed and I don't know where 333 00:16:58,785 --> 00:17:01,905 Speaker 1: to start. I just get sent so much stuff and 334 00:17:01,945 --> 00:17:04,105 Speaker 1: I just end up saying to brands like, stop sending 335 00:17:04,105 --> 00:17:05,905 Speaker 1: me this because I'm not gonna wear it, or you know. 336 00:17:05,985 --> 00:17:07,705 Speaker 1: Sometimes if I do get center, I just give it 337 00:17:07,705 --> 00:17:09,385 Speaker 1: to all my girlfriends. I'm like, just take it. 338 00:17:09,945 --> 00:17:13,105 Speaker 2: With pr and beauty packaging, it's not just the products, 339 00:17:13,145 --> 00:17:15,465 Speaker 2: but all of the packaging as well. You can get 340 00:17:15,505 --> 00:17:18,545 Speaker 2: a tiny little gloss in literally a whole big box, 341 00:17:18,585 --> 00:17:20,625 Speaker 2: and you're like, god, it's so wasteful. 342 00:17:20,785 --> 00:17:23,025 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're paying for the name and the boxes. You 343 00:17:23,065 --> 00:17:25,945 Speaker 1: can get the same results if you just use like 344 00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:28,545 Speaker 1: a good quality product and you're also not treating your 345 00:17:28,545 --> 00:17:29,625 Speaker 1: skin like shit. You know. 346 00:17:33,065 --> 00:17:35,745 Speaker 2: If you want more beauty news and our favorite products 347 00:17:35,785 --> 00:17:37,785 Speaker 2: all listed in the one place, you can sign up 348 00:17:37,825 --> 00:17:40,225 Speaker 2: to our free newsletter via the link in our show 349 00:17:40,225 --> 00:17:43,665 Speaker 2: notes you. Beauty is produced by Cassie Merrick with audio 350 00:17:43,785 --> 00:17:46,865 Speaker 2: editing by Lou Hill. Tune in tomorrow for Beauty Besties 351 00:17:46,865 --> 00:17:49,585 Speaker 2: where Lucy and Key and so all your beauty questions. 352 00:17:49,985 --> 00:17:52,985 Speaker 2: See your next Tuesday for another interview talking all things 353 00:17:52,985 --> 00:17:54,185 Speaker 2: skin care. Bye.