WEBVTT - How To Make Your Wardrobe Work Harder

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that

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<v Speaker 2>solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell,

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<v Speaker 2>and every week I talk to an expert who helps

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<v Speaker 2>us work out how to get more out of the

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<v Speaker 2>clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is

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<v Speaker 2>and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok and Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>And Pinterest is full of fashion inspo and cool hacks

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<v Speaker 2>to mix up your wardrobe, but knowing how to do

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<v Speaker 2>that in your own wardrobe can feel overwhelming. How do

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<v Speaker 2>people make patterns clash but still match? I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>work that out?

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<v Speaker 1>And how do.

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<v Speaker 2>People find new ways to style their old favorite pieces

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<v Speaker 2>while still looking on trend. We are here to help

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<v Speaker 2>cut through the revolving algorithm and find the practical ways

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<v Speaker 2>in which your wardrobe can work harder for you, and

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<v Speaker 2>the best person to talk about repurposing and reinventing our

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<v Speaker 2>wardrobes is Tina Abasakara. She is all about sustainable fashion

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<v Speaker 2>choices and just like this podcast, she wants you to

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<v Speaker 2>get more out of the clothes you already own. My friend,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to the show. While you're in Australia. I

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<v Speaker 2>always love sitting opposite you. Now, before we get into

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<v Speaker 2>our dressing room dilemma. You have a new fashion venture

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<v Speaker 2>alongside trash to Treasured, So can you tell me about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So trash to Treasured has been retired in a

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<v Speaker 3>way because it's time to get deeper, I think. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm releasing the Feel Good Style Club membership.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel Good Style Club what a great name.

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<v Speaker 3>When I speak with my clients, my first question is

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<v Speaker 3>how do you feel when you put this on? Because

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<v Speaker 3>it has to come back to you and how you

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<v Speaker 3>move through the world and how you feel in your

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<v Speaker 3>actual clothes. So Feel Good Style Club is a way

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of take the DMS into a more interactive space.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you'll have access to me as a stylist. So

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<v Speaker 3>you have your stylist in your pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I'm becoming a member of me.

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<v Speaker 3>Right and it will just help me sit down and

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<v Speaker 3>really speak to you and answer your questions. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>there'll be a bunch of resources in there. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to go through bunches of links and trying to

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<v Speaker 3>find certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a genius, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>And everyone will go through a little style quiz when

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<v Speaker 3>they come in, so then you'll know exactly what kind

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<v Speaker 3>of content you're going to be searching for and that

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<v Speaker 3>we can provide for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You are so clever.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been doing this for over a decade, so evolution

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<v Speaker 2>was inevitable and I'm so proud of you, and there

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<v Speaker 2>is no one better to talk to about this topic.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got a dressing room dilemma from a listener

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<v Speaker 2>who said, how can I create new outfits from clothes

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<v Speaker 2>I already own? I feel I always see people making

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<v Speaker 2>really cool, new and fashionable combinations and I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know where to start. It just looks like I got

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<v Speaker 2>dressed in the dark.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a phrase I do so pick well style often.

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<v Speaker 2>Well style often. Yes, So you are truly the best

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<v Speaker 2>person to talk to. Let me ask some questions, but

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<v Speaker 2>then just jump in with your advice because your brain

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<v Speaker 2>is like an encyclopedia for this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some.

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<v Speaker 2>Common wardrobe mistakes people make that prevent them from getting

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<v Speaker 2>the most out of the clothes they do already have

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<v Speaker 2>in their wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you're looking at really unique colors that

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<v Speaker 3>don't really sit well with the other clothes you have

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<v Speaker 3>in your wardrobe, I think it's so fine to try

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<v Speaker 3>bits and pieces as long as you have like about

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<v Speaker 3>eighty percent of your wardrobe that really mixes the match

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<v Speaker 3>as well with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about approaching mixing and matching and knowing

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<v Speaker 2>what items to even start experimenting with. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to the shops yet, we're in our wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 3>The first step would be bring out all of your neutrals.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's your blacks, your whites, your tens, your denim

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't absolutely and also like khaki, yeah, gray, yeah, ray,

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<v Speaker 3>all of those are.

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<v Speaker 1>Not your bold kind of prints and primary colors.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And so what I like to do is take

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<v Speaker 3>two colors from the neutrals and then take a bold

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<v Speaker 3>color if you do have that in your wardrobe, and

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<v Speaker 3>pop it in so it's three colors. Oh clever, and

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<v Speaker 3>you'll always look put together if you've got three colors

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<v Speaker 3>going on in.

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<v Speaker 2>Your okay, So like for me at the moment, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>loving gray and navy, so I could play with my

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<v Speaker 2>gray navy pieces and I kind of like, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of dark denim that I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I could add my.

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<v Speaker 2>Reds absolutely, because I've been struggling with my reds because

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<v Speaker 2>I've been thinking black. Then that feels too harsh, That

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<v Speaker 2>is so clever.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I've got my red sneakers on today, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>got them with white pets. Black got and it got

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<v Speaker 3>black at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>That looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was trying to do all black with a

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<v Speaker 2>pop of red, and it felt like that woman just

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<v Speaker 2>really wants to wear that red item, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>What it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Because then there's only two colors that you do add

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<v Speaker 3>in a third color and suddenly it's more of an outfit.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you find when you're chatting to clients within

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<v Speaker 2>that neutral's wardrobe, do they generally have more of one

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<v Speaker 2>or two colors, like they are a gray or a

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<v Speaker 2>beige or a white.

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<v Speaker 3>It's usually a lot of black because people feel safe

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<v Speaker 3>and black. But I actually think black is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the hardest colors. I'm discovering two style because it's so standalone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost a statement in itself. So if I'm wearing black,

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<v Speaker 3>I like to lean in all black and add like

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of detail with my accessory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, bag.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny because packing for my holiday, I've pulled

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<v Speaker 2>out sort of my neutrals. I've done almost what you're

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<v Speaker 2>telling us to do, and then I had some black pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, Oh, I have to take these because they're classic.

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<v Speaker 2>But then when I looked at the combinations, they went

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<v Speaker 2>with less amount of things. It was more of a

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<v Speaker 2>gray blazer than a black blazer or a white And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right. Black is a classic, but it doesn't always

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<v Speaker 2>go with that much no.

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<v Speaker 3>And it gets you into these situations where it's like

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<v Speaker 3>two clashing big colors, like you're red and you're black.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so big about allow too, because I've got a beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>fine yellow knit I've been trying to wear. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been reaching for black mindlessly and it just was

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<v Speaker 2>too hot. One of your tips you talk about is

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<v Speaker 2>to look at the detailing on fabrics and on items.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to me about the details.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you're looking at a shirt, think about where

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<v Speaker 3>you can unbutton it too to create a different neckline

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<v Speaker 3>for yourself. Look at if the buttons are functional on

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<v Speaker 3>the sleeve so you can change the sleeve length as well. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>look at if it's a shirt dress, look at how

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<v Speaker 3>you can completely unbutton it and wear it as a

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<v Speaker 3>caftan overswimwear or a singlet and jeans. So think about

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<v Speaker 3>ways you can wear the piece other than what it's

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<v Speaker 3>intended for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so it can be more kind of multi use exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>that's clever. That's often a fail of mind online shopping.

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<v Speaker 2>That's some you know, more affordable brands, which is fine,

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<v Speaker 2>but the buttons won't even be functional, like why didn't

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<v Speaker 2>you give me a hole for my button?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly? But then you know that's where you're saving on costs,

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<v Speaker 3>But then you need to buy another shirt to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to make new combinations.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's so true on that. Do you have tips

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<v Speaker 2>for shopping online to look at details? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a zoomer in er on the pictures?

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<v Speaker 3>I zoom all the way in. I look at every

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<v Speaker 3>single photo. I look at the fabric, detail, the percentage, So.

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<v Speaker 1>You're pretty good with the fabric.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just getting into like understanding well actually just looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the tab where it says you know, wool or

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<v Speaker 2>lien all vis goes. I've only just started that. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's important when shopping online for details.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, especially when it's an item you would like to

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<v Speaker 3>wear a few times during the week, and so you

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<v Speaker 3>want it to be able to like dry quickly. You're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to want to dry clean it every week,

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<v Speaker 3>no way. Then you're looking at fabrics that might be

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<v Speaker 3>really wrinkle resistant or heavily wrinkled like so these are

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<v Speaker 3>all things that will make me reach for it less

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<v Speaker 3>or more. So that's why fabric is.

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<v Speaker 2>Important, because again, you know people might travel for work

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<v Speaker 2>and it might be in a suitcase. If it's wrinkled,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna iron it. You don't have time. No

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<v Speaker 2>one does.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a huge fan of the throw on and

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<v Speaker 2>go dress. You came up with that acronym and I

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<v Speaker 2>love it. I'm in two minds about this. A throw

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<v Speaker 2>on a go dress, I guess is completely versatile because

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<v Speaker 2>you chuck it on, it's one piece of clothing and

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<v Speaker 2>then you're not naked. But is it versatile? Talk to

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<v Speaker 2>me about your throw on and go theory with dresses.

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<v Speaker 3>So it is versatile if that is your personal style.

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<v Speaker 3>So some people might be like, oh, I don't like

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<v Speaker 3>wearing dresses. That's fine, So find a piece of clothing

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<v Speaker 3>that you feel like yourself you can throw it on.

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<v Speaker 3>So it might be a jumpsuit, it might be a

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<v Speaker 3>printed pant, it might be a one shoulder fitted bodysuit.

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<v Speaker 3>But if that's your version of I pop it on

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel great. That's your version.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it doesn't have to be a dress.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have to be a dress.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it start from the dress though, because you literally

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<v Speaker 2>don't even have to think of a second item.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so it started because I used to go into

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<v Speaker 3>work on a Monday morning, I had to commute two

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<v Speaker 3>hours and the last thing I want to think about

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<v Speaker 3>is what am I going to wear? So this way,

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<v Speaker 3>I can just pop on one piece of clothing and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm done. I'm polished. And I love a dress with

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<v Speaker 3>a print on it as well, because again you're adding

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<v Speaker 3>interest without having to add too much. True, and you

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<v Speaker 3>put on a simple shoe and you're good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fascinating because you just said print, Whereas I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I'm a bit more classic in that way. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got two actually, they're both dishes and the same dress,

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<v Speaker 2>different colors. I've realized one's a navy and one's a

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<v Speaker 2>light gray linen, sort of a line throw on and

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<v Speaker 2>go yep. And I've worn it with sneakers and a

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<v Speaker 2>denim jacket or a trench or with sandals in summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and it literally is my throat, on and go when

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have time to think, I know it fits me.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, colors, we want to make something feel fresh, We

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<v Speaker 2>want to mix and match with our wardrobe. But do

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<v Speaker 2>we go and then maybe buy a pop of color

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<v Speaker 2>once we've worked out our neutrals?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we feel fresh with color?

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<v Speaker 3>So again it comes back down to if you are

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<v Speaker 3>a color person, Yes, so you might.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of coming this summer, right there is.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of print coming too.

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<v Speaker 1>In the US.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've just lived the summer we're about to go

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<v Speaker 2>into exactly. Hey, tell us a bit about.

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<v Speaker 3>That first Okay, So there was a lot of white,

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<v Speaker 3>lots of bubble skirt, silver, lamb.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving that one. I remember it the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was around back in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wonder maybe if it's better this time, or

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<v Speaker 2>if I just leave it?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you doing the bubble now, I'm doing a maxi.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I think that's a bit more wearable. And

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<v Speaker 2>then color and print. Tell me what you saw.

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<v Speaker 3>So I saw a leap of print. Yeah, animal print, Yes, red, red, green.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad red still around now that.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going into autumn winter in LA and the US,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a cherry red.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so a bit deeper, a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Deeper, but you can bring your summer red through great.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've still got my winter red, so I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>keep wearing that through summer and back into winter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect. And I'm seeing a lot of baby blue, which

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<v Speaker 3>I love. Yes, me too, Okay, Yeah, de Cuba have

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<v Speaker 3>some great baby blue pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So say someone they're mixing and matching with what

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<v Speaker 2>they've already got, but they do want to go and

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<v Speaker 2>have a look at the spring offering. How do we

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<v Speaker 2>add a little bit of color? Is it back to

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<v Speaker 2>the three color theory? Do they wear their neutrals to

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<v Speaker 2>the store to try the color?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So that's a great idea actually, where things that

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<v Speaker 3>you would consider a base so for some people might

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<v Speaker 3>be black linen pants. For someone it might be wide

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<v Speaker 3>legged jeans. Wear that and then try it on, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and you really get a real time feel for what

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to look like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I often wear leggings because I just think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be changing lots, and I'm like, why didn't

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<v Speaker 2>I wear a cut of jean that I have one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred pairs of and that I wear all the time

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<v Speaker 2>to know if the top looks good rather than silly leggings.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know when sometimes you put something on and

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<v Speaker 3>you think, oh, if only I had my hair done

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<v Speaker 3>or my mate cup done, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Would look yes, great, Yeah, So putting it in a

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<v Speaker 2>tiny bit of effort, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, put in a tiny bit of effort, or order

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<v Speaker 3>it to your home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, and just check the returns policy exactly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do that. Or yeah, if it's you know, Zara,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know I can return all the iconic Say

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<v Speaker 2>I got home from work and I look af decent,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do all my try on then, yes, because then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, okay, this is going to work. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you've just got to make sure you take the returns

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<v Speaker 2>well back before the end of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean figuring all this out. It can be really simple,

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<v Speaker 3>but it can take time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it does take time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So we just spoke about color, but not everyone loves color.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to me about the accessories.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we do. We don't have to do color.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have to do color. And also it depends

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<v Speaker 3>again personal style. If you do want to pop of

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<v Speaker 3>something that that's where I love ringing in like an

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<v Speaker 3>earring or a necklace or a bag with really interesting detail.

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<v Speaker 3>But living that aside as well, I would say look

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<v Speaker 3>at silhouette. So look at the shape of your clothes.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe a VOLUMEUS sleeve, maybe an asymmetrical hemline.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, which is back again as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, and maybe that's more your cup of tea.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I know, I have clients that only wear neutrals

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<v Speaker 3>like black and tan, So we play with silhouette.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you know blazers were fitted five years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>now they're oversize, so it's still a black blazer, but

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<v Speaker 2>the cut is different. Everything comes back exactly with a

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<v Speaker 2>slight twist.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you're going to get the new thing anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are talking about mixing and matching what we

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<v Speaker 2>already have prints that sounds hard for me because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a print.

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<v Speaker 1>You're more a print than me.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got prints in our wardrobe, how do we work

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<v Speaker 2>out how to wear them?

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<v Speaker 3>More So, again, it would be maybe putting it with

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<v Speaker 3>a neutral color that you don't usually pair it with.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I think leopard print straight away, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to go for a black blazer, for example, But a

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<v Speaker 3>beige trench would look really good as well. Yes, a

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<v Speaker 3>denim jacket great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So something a bit classic and a block color.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's not another print exactly? Yeah, print scary? Can

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<v Speaker 2>you do like a whole course on Prince.

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<v Speaker 3>Into print clashing? Oh my goodness, it's so fun to

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<v Speaker 3>clash prints.

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<v Speaker 2>I love fashion, but when I try to clash prints,

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<v Speaker 2>it just looks like I got dressed at three am

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't turn the light on.

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<v Speaker 1>I need I need a lesson in that.

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<v Speaker 3>If I can give you two tips, yes please. One

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<v Speaker 3>is make sure the prints are similar tones okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>they're both warm tones or they're both cool tones. And

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<v Speaker 3>also having like similar size of print.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay is helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>So if it's like a smaller leopard print and then

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<v Speaker 2>a smaller check or something rather than a giant check.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, it kind of makes the eye go over

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<v Speaker 3>the outfie.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA, what she done?

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>How important is it that we invest in quality pieces

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<v Speaker 2>and how can they elevate the rest of our wardrobe?

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to point out quality doesn't mean expensive, No,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your definition of quality?

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<v Speaker 3>Quality to me is something that's functional, so it actually

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<v Speaker 3>allows you to use and move in the clothes. So

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<v Speaker 3>if it's a jacket and I'm wearing it in winter,

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<v Speaker 3>it has to keep me warm. Yes, okay, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking for something that has a little bit of viscos

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<v Speaker 3>or wool or something that is going to keep me warm.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm wearing these shoes all day, they have to

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<v Speaker 3>give me support because I'm flat footed. Yes, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>looking at those Detai tells. First start from there and

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<v Speaker 3>then work your way around it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay to more of the I guess superficial stuff like aesthetics. Aesthetics,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, that's so true. And you're big on making

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<v Speaker 2>sure shoes a comfy. I love your rating on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>of how comfory a shoe is because I look at

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<v Speaker 2>all the stillo doos I still have and would never

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<v Speaker 2>reach for and even the flat shoes I've bought that

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<v Speaker 2>I thought would be comfy, I never reach for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, oh, maybe I'll wear them next week because

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<v Speaker 2>I've spent the money.

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<v Speaker 3>But if they're not comfy, if they're not comfory, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to reach for them. You know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter how expensive or cheap they were, Yes, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>not using them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So quality is pretty much cost perware, like how

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<v Speaker 2>much you love the item. Let's talk hero pieces. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>a hero piece is something I just love and want

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<v Speaker 2>to get more wear out of. How can we identify

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<v Speaker 2>the hero pieces in our wardrobe and get more wear

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<v Speaker 2>out of them?

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<v Speaker 3>A hero piece lights you up? Yes, it is really

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<v Speaker 3>aligned with the message you want to give out with

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<v Speaker 3>your outfit. So you know, it might be a pop

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<v Speaker 3>of red, it might be a design, a handbag, might

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<v Speaker 3>be part of your style identities. You love wearing linen,

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<v Speaker 3>so maybe it's a beautiful long linen dress.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a motive for you, Yes, exactly, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you feel good. I've got a jacket that I wear

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<v Speaker 2>when I want to feel powerful. It came to mind

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<v Speaker 2>it's my hero piece or one of my hero pieces,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just makes me feel confident. Amazing layering and

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<v Speaker 2>transitional outfits and seasons in Sydney here or in spring

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<v Speaker 2>we had a really rainy, cold winter, then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden there were summer. Who knows what's happening tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 2>How can we use the pieces in our wardrobe in

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<v Speaker 2>these weird weather times?

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<v Speaker 3>So A, layering pieces are best when they're thin fabrics

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<v Speaker 3>on the thinner side, so you can literally layer. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I love using like maybe a white T shirt or

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<v Speaker 3>a white singlet to give a pop of something underneath

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<v Speaker 3>a knit, you know, underneath a jacket as well. I

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<v Speaker 3>love using long sleeves to kind of pick the cuff

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<v Speaker 3>out from below my jacket, adding another layer.

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<v Speaker 1>And it looks like you've put in effort. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>very cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It does it's effortless.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's less, and you haven't put in the effort,

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<v Speaker 2>but of course you have. And footwear in trance seasonal, like,

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<v Speaker 2>are we doing sneakers again?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I am, because they're comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>I think sneakers are having a huge moment, and especially

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<v Speaker 3>after COVID, no one's reaching for their heels anymore. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I think the sneaker companies are really leading into

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<v Speaker 3>that and bringing out really cool combinations. So yes to sneakers.

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<v Speaker 3>I really love like a flat knee length boots with

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<v Speaker 3>my shorter dresses. And there's also like the chunky sould slides.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not for everybody. If you do want to try them,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say maybe not one with a big buckle

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<v Speaker 3>as well, because that's like another extra detail.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so it's chunky then the buckle, it definitely says

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<v Speaker 2>something it doesn't go with as much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly. I mean, if that's your personal style, go

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<v Speaker 3>for it. If you're kind of dipping your toe into that,

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<v Speaker 3>I would consider like maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a plain on okay, and all mixed match with

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<v Speaker 2>more exactly. Can you suggest a few easy wardrobe challenges

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<v Speaker 2>or exercises that our lovely listeners can do to rediscover

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<v Speaker 2>and love what's already in their closets?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? So I would again bring up the three color palette.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm going home to do that immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so much fun to do and I'm traveling

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<v Speaker 3>right now, so I'm really leaning into that.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you pack with that in mind?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I've packed. I always pick a color palette. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>when I travel.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you try it on before you go, or do

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<v Speaker 2>you just know inherently because you've kind of worn them before.

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<v Speaker 3>I just kind of know. I think it's my job

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<v Speaker 3>to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, hopefully. Yeah, So it kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Works out, but it's kind of fool proof as well

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<v Speaker 3>when you can see it there in your y. It's

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<v Speaker 3>all mixing and matching. But I mean, if it's a

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<v Speaker 3>piece you haven't worn in maybe six months, give it

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<v Speaker 3>a go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, make sure it's still and you still love it.

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<v Speaker 2>The three color anything else. Before we do bougie and budget, we'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the sandwich because that is just so easy. You

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<v Speaker 3>go for the same color in your shoe and your

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<v Speaker 3>top and you have a different color in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good, that's even easier for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can go white snickers.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to say white and white and denim.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, my whole wardrobe. And then I might

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<v Speaker 2>chuck in a different colored tailored pant, but white and white.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a printed skirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, that's how I could do my prints.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the sandwich, So you just go feet in top

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<v Speaker 2>sor it they match, and then you can kind of

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<v Speaker 2>slide in anything on the bottoms in the middle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I love these two formulas. Do you have any more

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<v Speaker 2>and how can people find out about them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? I do have guys, so please jump onto the website.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll see them all there. I have guys for all

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<v Speaker 3>different types of colors, shapes and outfit styles.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is the website.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Tina Avesacre dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll pop a link in the show note.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very expensive, honey, how wond are these all? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do bougie and budget. So I guess I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of talking versatile items. Would you like to start with

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<v Speaker 2>your bougie or your budget?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, let me tell you a bougie. It's not very

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<v Speaker 3>bougie's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Boogie is different to everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a shirt dress from the Cuba.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is like a cotton linen and you can

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<v Speaker 3>wear it as a dress. And it's actually like a

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<v Speaker 3>leopard print. Oh, I really want to wear it with

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<v Speaker 3>a white singlet. Yes, my slouchy denim cool black slides.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I put this dress over the top so

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<v Speaker 3>it's open open.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does it fall? Is it like MIDI knee?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like MIDI.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wow, that is very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>But shirts over pants is back again, and dresses over pants.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well this kind of looks like long shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it does, and then how good would that be

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<v Speaker 1>over swimmers?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and then it's a dress exactly. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>do my bougie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not outrageous, but it's more expensive than yours. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the Jerry Cream wool blend Bomber jacket. Now that sounds

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<v Speaker 2>very wintry. It's from Dish. It's two hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>nine dollars and ninety nine cents and it's new. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's this kind of longer bomber because I found a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the bombers very very cropped going through winter, too,

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<v Speaker 2>cropped for my silhouette and what I like. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was really sizing up. But then the sleeves, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they've just got this cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Great.

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<v Speaker 2>You could cuffort or push it up, and because it's

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<v Speaker 2>that light color, it's really good for transasonal. Its zips open,

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<v Speaker 2>so you could just wear it cool open like jeans

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<v Speaker 2>or denim shorts or a tea, but it also has

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<v Speaker 2>this really beautiful color. It's kind of dressing enough that

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<v Speaker 2>you could wear it over something quite structured or a

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<v Speaker 2>fancy dress. I'm obsessed with bombers and I'm sessed with

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<v Speaker 2>cream and white, So that's my bougie. Now, you and

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<v Speaker 2>I both love thrifting because I feel like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>real shopping, kind of feels like your wardrobe. But someone else, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's stressing up.

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<v Speaker 1>Its stress up and it's cheaper.

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<v Speaker 2>So talk to you about thrifting and how we could

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<v Speaker 2>make that work with what we've already got.

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<v Speaker 3>So, if we're looking at trying new colors, a thrift

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<v Speaker 3>store is amazing because they're not kind of blocked into trends,

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<v Speaker 3>current trends. They literally have anything and everything, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>a great place to try new colors, try new silhouettes.

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<v Speaker 3>And also if you are maybe not a particular size

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<v Speaker 3>in one brand, but you really like the aesthetic, you

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<v Speaker 3>can try and find that aesthetic in a thrift store

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's worth trying things on because I think

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<v Speaker 2>even you know there's thrifting, then there's sort of vintage

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<v Speaker 2>and sizes were so different, you know, ten and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years ago that don't just look at the label

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<v Speaker 2>when you're sifting.

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<v Speaker 3>Try it on, Try it on, take your take coffee,

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<v Speaker 3>set aside hour, a couple of hours. It's actually quite fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I love it. We have to go

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<v Speaker 1>thrifting to it.

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<v Speaker 2>We do. My budget is a linen mini shift dress.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how we're sort of seeing them everywhere. They're

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<v Speaker 2>a bit fifties, are they? Or I don't know, retro

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<v Speaker 2>retro they're retro. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>When I don't know the season. It's from Verge Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that brand. Yeah, I just found out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Ossy Dozzy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's sort of a bit hippie bohemian, but in a

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<v Speaker 2>very elevated way. So this is like a straight neck,

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<v Speaker 2>almost bootneckat neck, very gentle boat neck, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>just falls and it's got buttons all the way down

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<v Speaker 2>the side.

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<v Speaker 1>You have it, I'm getting it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's white with black buttered.

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<v Speaker 1>Well this is kh key with brown buttons.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. She's got a little sort of ballet flat on

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<v Speaker 2>which I love sand or great, you could do a heel.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that really kind of retro shift dress

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<v Speaker 2>is great.

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<v Speaker 1>And again it's short, but it's not tight and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not too short.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I've seen some that are short short,

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<v Speaker 2>but also because it's shifty, you can kind of size

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<v Speaker 2>up a bit to get more lenked because it's already boxy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not meant to be fitted.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, No, it's not meant to be so you can

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<v Speaker 3>kind of yeah, there's leeway, there's leeway.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's one hundred and twenty nine dollars and if

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<v Speaker 2>you've got it in the other color, I'm definitely clicking

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<v Speaker 2>to buy now. So that is our versa topics. Tina,

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<v Speaker 2>please move back to us, but in the meantime, please

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<v Speaker 2>keep us posted whenever you're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we love having won the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I love coming in. It's part of my routine now

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<v Speaker 3>when I visit Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>Y see you, Sue, Thank you for listening to Nothing

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