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Speaker 2: I have a question for you. Do you feel guilty
Speaker 2: when you buy something expensive? We were asked that on
Speaker 2: You Beauty to Kelly and I feel guilty recommending expensive
Speaker 2: products And the answer is quite controversial, and it also
Speaker 2: applies to fashion too, So have a listen and I'd
Speaker 2: love to hear your opinion.
Speaker 1: Makeup is my therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and
Speaker 1: I don't even feel guilty of body.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to You Beauty, the daily podcast for
Speaker 2: your Faith.
Speaker 1: I'm really careful. I'm Kelly McCarran.
Speaker 2: Now on Mondays we answer you be questions, so people
Speaker 2: send us emails, us send us voice notes.
Speaker 3: We actually love a voice note because we love hearing
Speaker 3: what your actual voice is. Yeah, I like it's always lovely.
Speaker 3: But a good old DM will do.
Speaker 1: And we try to be helpful when we answer them,
Speaker 1: don't we kill We always do try to be helpful.
Speaker 3: And today we've got a great question about overnight masks
Speaker 3: than some fab recommendations, Well, I think that they're fab
Speaker 3: with our host act. But Lee, I think she's gonna
Speaker 3: have a real giggle at me. But first, Janis has
Speaker 3: emailed us. I'm really curious about your thoughts on aging.
Speaker 3: Does working in the skinkey industry make you more paranoid
Speaker 3: about it?
Speaker 1: Or do you care less as you get older?
Speaker 3: I ask because before Instagram I barely thought about aging,
Speaker 3: but now it's something I noticed daily for context, I'm
Speaker 3: in my early forties, and I'd love to hear your perspective.
Speaker 1: What a great question. I have so many thoughts. I
Speaker 1: mean it depends.
Speaker 3: I mean you're asking us personally, but there's kind of
Speaker 3: micro and macro opinions. I like, micro is asked, and
Speaker 3: then macro is like the patriarchy and how our you know,
Speaker 3: brand's market to us. Oh God, let's do worry about that.
Speaker 3: Let's just pretend. Let's do the micros so we will
Speaker 3: be here all day.
Speaker 1: We will.
Speaker 2: I'm about to turn forty three, and I started in
Speaker 2: this gig at twenty one, so I wasn't really getting
Speaker 2: into beauty for the anti aging aspect. Really wasn't that
Speaker 2: interested in this skin care element of my job back then.
Speaker 2: I loved makeup, I loved hair, I had different, you know,
Speaker 2: hair colors, and I believe it. I'm not killing with
Speaker 2: all different color eyeshadows and all sort of things like that.
Speaker 2: I first had anti wrinkle injections at twenty seven through
Speaker 2: my job for free for a trial because I could,
Speaker 2: And now at forty three, I've stopped having any sort
Speaker 2: of anti wrinkle injections.
Speaker 1: This is way pre social media.
Speaker 2: Like this is even before Facebook and before Instagram. So
Speaker 2: I've been in the industry and watch the whole thing
Speaker 2: grow for me as I get older. I definitely care less,
Speaker 2: and I think that that is probably the way life
Speaker 2: is designed. I give less fs about what other people think.
Speaker 2: But I've realized that aging in general, not just my face,
Speaker 2: but it's about being healthy and taking care of myself,
Speaker 2: not so much what I look like, you know, fitness
Speaker 2: and trying to eat well and supplements and all of
Speaker 2: that is to keep my body from aching and doing
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: So I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I go on Instagram, and of course because I follow
Speaker 2: a lot of beauty accounts and engage in a lot
Speaker 2: of beauty content, get fed a lot.
Speaker 1: Of that stuff.
Speaker 2: I think I have a different filter. I'm kind of
Speaker 2: looking at it for work. I'm not looking at it
Speaker 2: for Oh no, do I need that? Because of this? Also,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't speak for you, Kelly, but Kelly and I
Speaker 2: can see through a lot of marketing jargon or no.
Speaker 2: If you know a brand saying this is the best
Speaker 2: cerreum ever, and we look at the ingredients, we know, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: well it's good, but it's also the same as all
Speaker 2: these other ones. I'm definitely not paranoid about it. The
Speaker 2: only thing I'm paranoid about aging is literally how fast
Speaker 2: the years are going, and that you know, I'm middle
Speaker 2: aged and that happened overnight. But for my physical appearance
Speaker 2: and my skin and the way I look, no, I
Speaker 2: care much less.
Speaker 3: I have what's it called, like reverse body dysmorphia. Key
Speaker 3: friend of the pod, Key always tells me that I've
Speaker 3: got like middle aged white white man energy. She's like,
Speaker 3: why do you have the confidence of a middle aged
Speaker 3: white man?
Speaker 1: Yes? Like and the audacity.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I genuinely think that I'm hotter than ever you are.
Speaker 1: You are, That's what I'm talking. I've got reverse body dysmorphia.
Speaker 1: When I look in the mirror, someone.
Speaker 3: Might be like, oh, that chick's getting on and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: look great, you do. And when people say, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: there's nothing quite like youth, maybe it's because phones weren't
Speaker 3: that good back then.
Speaker 1: But I don't look at.
Speaker 3: My photos and think, oh, my goodness, I wish that
Speaker 3: I still looked at that I look and I think, oh,
Speaker 3: cis you really don't know how to do your eyebrows.
Speaker 3: Or I don't think that I was just like astronomically
Speaker 3: more beautiful objectively when I was younger. And of course
Speaker 3: I don't have the collagen and the plumpness that I
Speaker 3: once did. But I'm also not racked with insecurities and
Speaker 3: so shy that I don't want to even open my mouth.
Speaker 3: And it sounds so cliche, but for so many of us,
Speaker 3: and I know not everyone, confidence really does come as
Speaker 3: you get older because you just don't care. You simply
Speaker 3: do not have time to care too much. Also, and
Speaker 3: this is a little bit of a tip for anyone
Speaker 3: playing long at home and for Janis, don't look in
Speaker 3: the mirror too much and too much detail. Like even
Speaker 3: when I'm doing my makeup, I'm not looking at my
Speaker 3: face in the mirror, I'm looking at my eyes in
Speaker 3: the mirror. And then I'm looking at my skin in
Speaker 3: the mirror. Then I'm looking at my lips in the mirror.
Speaker 3: I'm not actually looking at my whole face and then
Speaker 3: looking at flaws if that makes sense. Yes, And don't
Speaker 3: use that silly magnifying mirror unless you're trying to pluck hairs. Yeah, agreed, Like,
Speaker 3: just don't, it's not good for anyone. I also think
Speaker 3: that Lee and I have the bonus of, as you said,
Speaker 3: seeing through marketing jargon, but also for me, I don't
Speaker 3: know if you feel the samely. It's so easy to
Speaker 3: look on Instagram and think, oh my goodness, that person's
Speaker 3: so beautiful. But we are lucky enough to see people
Speaker 3: in real life all the time. No one looks the
Speaker 3: way that they're not. No one, No, Yeah, so many
Speaker 3: people don't look the way that they do on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I fail to actually recognize someone.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, oh, is that so and so I
Speaker 3: follow them, and then I'll be like, oh, dear lord,
Speaker 3: filters are insane. AI is insane. Don't trust what you see.
Speaker 3: It's probably if it looks too good to be true.
Speaker 3: Someone's skin looks too good to be true, probably is Yeah,
Speaker 3: probably not real I mean it's interesting because when I
Speaker 3: started in beauty media, yeah, I mean websites. I remember
Speaker 3: I was at Cosmo Polishing magazine and they're like, well,
Speaker 3: you better get the website really happening. So you're right,
Speaker 3: like there was no selfie cameras.
Speaker 2: You used to take a digital camera out and get
Speaker 2: it exposed like six, you know, so you weren't.
Speaker 3: Looking you were looking at yourself in HD like as well,
Speaker 3: or at other people, like yeah, buying magazines maybe ear weekly,
Speaker 3: maybe some monthlies, and you knew that magazine photos were retouched.
Speaker 2: So I do think it's an interesting thing to examine
Speaker 2: because we see other people's faces in our own faces
Speaker 2: far more than ever before.
Speaker 1: There's more brands, you know.
Speaker 3: Zoom calls, spacetimes instead of regular calls. Online shopping, you know,
Speaker 3: that became a thing. So I understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 3: I do think it's something, particularly if I had a daughter.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got two teenage nieces and they look
Speaker 3: at themselves in their phones on the mirrors more than anyone,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: I guess that's that generation. So I think it's more
Speaker 2: the people coming up. I'm kind of glad I was
Speaker 2: on the cusp and missed same same. But no, I
Speaker 2: just don't care, like I know what I know, Like
Speaker 2: I've got this big sun spot here and every time,
Speaker 2: you know, I've got friends that are working industryroom, they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: we can zap that.
Speaker 1: I can't be bothered.
Speaker 2: I don't care like you know, Like I take care
Speaker 2: of my skin now could take better care of my insides.
Speaker 3: But I have off days, like everyone will have an
Speaker 3: off day, like when your outfits not working, or you've
Speaker 3: broken out, or you're just feeling really tired.
Speaker 1: Well that's it, like I do.
Speaker 2: But look back at my old photos, and I had
Speaker 2: the chubbiest cheeks, like I always had a lot of collision.
Speaker 1: How do people thought she secretly got filled up? Everyone
Speaker 1: thought I did. She just had a chubby face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I lost my baby fat on my face in
Speaker 2: my thirties. I look back and go, gosh, But then
Speaker 2: I hated that then. But now I wouldn't mind a
Speaker 2: little bit of that volume back because I've lost a
Speaker 2: lot of volume in my face. So no, I'm not paranoid.
Speaker 2: I'm like, eh, what are you gonna do? There's no
Speaker 2: time to care too much. The one thing I would
Speaker 2: do if I could go back is where more sunscreen,
Speaker 2: more diligently earlier, because I didn't do that early enough. Yeah, Janis,
Speaker 2: if it's getting to you recent Instagram algorithm, start liking
Speaker 2: some salad, start liking some puppies, and the algorithm will
Speaker 2: give you more solid than puppies.
Speaker 1: H'd people that make you feel bad about yourself, greed.
Speaker 3: Just don't follow them. Don't follow them all. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but interesting. I'd like actually to hear the Ubi salt.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll start a little chat over in the group
Speaker 2: because it can make you feel it really insecure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's why the group's they're eighty five thousand wonderful
Speaker 2: women to just say, hey, you know what, I got
Speaker 2: that problem too. And on that note, after the break,
Speaker 2: we're going to chat about our favorite overnight face masks.
Speaker 2: So Janelle asked, who is not Janus? Janelle asked, Hi, girls,
Speaker 2: I'm hoping you might be able to recommend your favorite
Speaker 2: sleep masks for the two nights a week that are
Speaker 2: my retinol rest nights. I've been using one for a
Speaker 2: few months now, and as much as I love the concept,
Speaker 2: I feel there's better out there and would love your
Speaker 2: advice for a forty something year old, haven't heard it
Speaker 2: discussed on the pod before. Thanks love the Potty Oh
Speaker 2: we ever, I love an overnight sleep mask. I wrote
Speaker 2: in my news that a couple of weeks ago about
Speaker 2: how despite having access to every product under the sun,
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm so exhausted.
Speaker 1: I just my seller and everyone.
Speaker 2: Do that totally one two nights e yes, I literally
Speaker 2: go okay, my seller and then I just grab an
Speaker 2: overnight mask because I'm like, you're one step, that's what
Speaker 2: you're designed for. So I'm not not doing my skincare
Speaker 2: call you go first with yours, because I've got quite.
Speaker 3: A few, and my list is quite short because I
Speaker 3: actually haven't tried that many and I actually need to,
Speaker 3: but I'm so in love with the one that I'm
Speaker 3: obsessed with. So it came out about two years ago now,
Speaker 3: the Murad Cellular Hydration Repair Mask, and at the time,
Speaker 3: so I got a PR sample in a Sephora bag
Speaker 3: and I'd worked with Murad before, and I did something
Speaker 3: the following day that I've never ever done in my career.
Speaker 3: I reached out to the PR and said, does Muroad
Speaker 3: want to work with me again?
Speaker 1: Which I just have never done. Because you love the
Speaker 1: product so much.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and I just have never actually actively reached
Speaker 3: out for a pay partnership because I just get like
Speaker 3: really weird about that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: But I said to the PR, because.
Speaker 3: I'm want to talk about it anyway, may as well
Speaker 3: try to get paid for it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I have not stopped talking about it since it is
Speaker 3: like my skin the next day. The reason I reached
Speaker 3: out was like I could not deal with how juicy
Speaker 3: and plump my skin was from one product and from
Speaker 3: one night.
Speaker 1: That's a purple one. That's the purple one you love.
Speaker 2: But what I also should say is not all of
Speaker 2: them say overnight masks. Some of them just might be
Speaker 2: a mask, but you can sleep in them. But does
Speaker 2: that say overnight? I can't remember it does well actually,
Speaker 2: because lots of people are like, oh, that's a pydrating
Speaker 2: face mask, but can I wear it overnight? As long
Speaker 2: as it's not active like a viam and a you
Speaker 2: can wear it overnight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually don't know if it does, but I've
Speaker 1: always used it as one see I use that as
Speaker 1: a like a twenty minute before a makeup. But I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 3: Yes, But to eighty five dollars for eighty meals from
Speaker 3: Sephora or like online from Murad and like it lasts
Speaker 3: a long time because you don't need that much.
Speaker 1: No, it's gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Before I jump into my list, we're gonna link in
Speaker 2: the show notes. One of the U Beauty Collective writers
Speaker 2: do a story late last year, so it's pretty new,
Speaker 2: and they've said, I've tried all the viral overnight masks
Speaker 2: and these are the ones I actually repurchased, and there's
Speaker 2: a bunch in there.
Speaker 1: What ones did she say?
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you to go to the
Speaker 2: really all right one that I love that doesn't say overnight,
Speaker 2: but totally can be kind of kicked off. This category
Speaker 2: really is the summer Friday's jet lag masks.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot about that. I love that product.
Speaker 2: So you can get the little twenty eight grams from
Speaker 2: Mecca for forty three dollars to try. And really the
Speaker 2: founder was on a million flights and was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I need something I can whack on sleep on the
Speaker 2: plane or whatever and land wake ut looking not like
Speaker 2: a sultana correct, So that's really good. Again, it doesn't
Speaker 2: say overnight, but you absolutely can the avine hydrants hydrating
Speaker 2: sleeping mask beautiful. You can get that at Chemist Warehouse.
Speaker 2: It's about sixty bucks. It's on sale at the time
Speaker 2: of recording. And with these masks you can use them
Speaker 2: however you want. You can sleep in them, you can
Speaker 2: just do an hour or two before bed, you can
Speaker 2: do twenty minutes whatever. It just means like it's your
Speaker 2: one step one. I didn't try for so long, and
Speaker 2: now I'm kicking myself. I didn't try it sooner that
Speaker 2: I love. It's the Cora Organic's Nony Glow sleeping mask
Speaker 2: so good. Also her cleansing mom oh, oh my god,
Speaker 2: seventy two dollars. That's a beautiful one recently launched, I
Speaker 2: think maybe late last year.
Speaker 1: Also beautiful.
Speaker 2: Doctor Lewin's Ultra r for Collagen Surge overnight sleep mask
Speaker 2: seventy five bucks.
Speaker 1: Excellent. That's that little jewel chamber.
Speaker 2: I think I talked about it when you talk about
Speaker 2: the serum, a jewel chamber you pump and mix in
Speaker 2: your hand.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. They're kind of hard to get affordable ones well.
Speaker 2: In my newsletter a few weeks ago for whoever subscribes,
Speaker 2: I was explaining that I often just go oh, too tired.
Speaker 2: And one of my favorite ones I get from my
Speaker 2: it's Natio. It's twenty bucks.
Speaker 1: Oh I know, but I'm not talking about it here
Speaker 1: because I haven't talked about it. The Astop Sublime Replenishing
Speaker 1: night Mask one hundred and sixty five dollars.
Speaker 3: Oh, the audacity that Aceop have. Honestly, Aceops prices fatally.
Speaker 2: It's got a lot of five star reviews and it's
Speaker 2: in Aceop packaging, so everyone will think you fancy.
Speaker 1: But that's good too. Honestly, I love a lot of them.
Speaker 3: Say I do just want to give a quick shout
Speaker 3: out to when I really can't be bothered and I'm
Speaker 3: already in bed and I've just washed my face.
Speaker 1: The latest skin food. It's not an overnight mask.
Speaker 3: At all, but it's a slug product and you wake
Speaker 3: up really really juicy. So and that's like you can
Speaker 3: get it for under twenty grades.
Speaker 1: You can use sick a passpa on five like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, any of those slugging ones. You can also just
Speaker 3: chuck them on. I wonder what one she's using that's saying.
Speaker 3: I wonder if there's better out there? Can you tell
Speaker 3: us to email us next up?
Speaker 2: We will be sharing our host hacks and kel is
Speaker 2: a bit smug about something I reckon.
Speaker 1: Absolutely no one needs reminding over what you makeup, hacks Kelly,
Speaker 1: What are you going to tell me? It's so silly.
Speaker 3: But I am one of those people that four years
Speaker 3: I've been just like every now and there and when
Speaker 3: I'm doing a hair up, I rummage around for bobby pins.
Speaker 3: You can never find enough bobby pins, or you find
Speaker 3: two and they'll be like black bobby pins. And I've
Speaker 3: got really light hair. Do I have black ones? Well,
Speaker 3: because I've just got them. I don't even know why
Speaker 3: I've got them. They've just turned up. They're kind of
Speaker 3: like socks, they just seem to go missing. So my
Speaker 3: host tack is just a reminder that you can buy
Speaker 3: bobby pins, and you can buy them in your hair color.
Speaker 1: What is wrong with you? Bobby pins exist? That's your
Speaker 1: host tack.
Speaker 3: No, it's just a reminder that instead of always rummaging
Speaker 3: around for things, you can just go purchase them.
Speaker 1: I purchased one hundred.
Speaker 3: Blonde bobby pins for like two dollars fifty from Kmart.
Speaker 1: Kelly.
Speaker 2: You should have come to my house because I'm still
Speaker 2: trying to grow out my hair, and I've still got
Speaker 2: a mullet. I have a thousand trillion bobby pins everywhere
Speaker 2: that I don't even need to rummage. You know what
Speaker 2: you need that I've bught off Amazon. It's a magnetic
Speaker 2: boby pin holder.
Speaker 3: Oh see, I do need something like that, but this
Speaker 3: is actually it's a little container.
Speaker 1: You won't keep them in that flip for long.
Speaker 2: But like I did, one of these in my bedroom
Speaker 2: and one of them in my bathroom, because otherwise you
Speaker 2: put it down, the cat flips it off, gets lost.
Speaker 2: They just get stuck on the magnet.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's also very genius.
Speaker 3: But if you are like me, and for months or
Speaker 3: however long you've been like, oh, for goodness, I can
Speaker 3: never find a bobby pin, you can buy them.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, water is wet. Shops sell things.
Speaker 3: Kel Oh, you're gonna eat your words if just one
Speaker 3: U be reaches out and goes thanks. Kell.
Speaker 1: And when I bought some bowbiy pins, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: you eat words. I'll eat them englicious.
Speaker 2: Mine is for the lazy gels. Kelly's so good at
Speaker 2: washing her brushes. I'm not as good, but I'm getting better.
Speaker 2: It's something that I recently started to use in between
Speaker 2: proper washes. So like think of it as your dry
Speaker 2: shampoo for your brushes, except for it's not dry shampoo.
Speaker 1: Please hold, I do bring Show and Tell.
Speaker 3: She's got like a full lunch bag for her Show
Speaker 3: and Tell. You can get a million like Mac does
Speaker 3: a good one.
Speaker 2: But I've been using the models prefer brush cleaning mist,
Speaker 2: so basically it's like hand sanitizer brush. So I see
Speaker 2: a lot of makeup artists use these on sets, which
Speaker 2: is what reminded me because a month or so ago
Speaker 2: I had a shoot and she was doing lots of faces,
Speaker 2: and she had lots of brushes, but specific ones she
Speaker 2: would do. It's always got your favor, yeah, and so
Speaker 2: particularly if you're traveling or you're just really lazy, you
Speaker 2: just like spray it on it like d whatevers sanitizers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you meant to just like that one's oh,
Speaker 1: that one smells like good bit with alcohol. And I
Speaker 1: hate the smell of them. That's why I don't like
Speaker 1: to use them. You don't like my book hand sanitizer.
Speaker 3: No, And I don't like my brushes smelling. And then
Speaker 3: you've got to let it dry for a little bit,
Speaker 3: but say, you know, like the wash tive minutes between
Speaker 3: each it takes it day too. It takes a day
Speaker 3: to dry exactly. You really need to like set aside
Speaker 3: a Sunday. I just really like them, and I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm being a good girl. Like it's almost the
Speaker 3: version of the mycella and the sleep mask. When you
Speaker 3: can't people doing the whole thing or sanitizing, if you
Speaker 3: can't wash your hands, it's better.
Speaker 2: Than nothing, right, Yes, so dry shampoo when you're not
Speaker 2: gonna watch Yeah, so yeah, the models prefer one is
Speaker 2: sixteen dollars and I've been doing that sort of in
Speaker 2: between and I do take that when I travel if
Speaker 2: I'm going for you know, more than a weekend, particularly
Speaker 2: if I use cream products. They built up quite quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so get yourself a brush cleaning miss clean your brushes and.
Speaker 1: Then go to the shops and buy some Bobby do it.
Speaker 3: You know what someone's going to Someone's going to be like,
Speaker 3: you're right, hell, and I can buy socks as well
Speaker 3: because I don't need to always. I would have said
Speaker 3: hair elastics, becus they got miss A hair elastics exactly, Well,
Speaker 3: thank you, So much for listening. If you have a question,
Speaker 3: please dm us at you Beauty podcast and our producer
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