WEBVTT - Jennifer "Suddenly 30 Is Problematic" Garner 0:00:11.189 --> 0:00:15.389 You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mom and Maya 0:00:15.429 --> 0:00:18.709 acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this 0:00:18.749 --> 0:00:30.989 podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to cancel the 0:00:31.029 --> 0:00:34.309 podcast that looks at silly celebrity crimes and assigence charges 0:00:34.429 --> 0:00:36.749 and sentences to them so we can all move on 0:00:36.789 --> 0:00:39.429 with our lives. I'm Klaire Stevens and I'm joined by 0:00:39.669 --> 0:00:42.109 Jesse Stevens and Jesse do you have a lazy girl 0:00:42.189 --> 0:00:44.669 story for us? I do. I have one which I 0:00:44.669 --> 0:00:47.069 feel like is going to be particularly relatable to both 0:00:47.109 --> 0:00:50.389 of us. It is from Claire. Oh but not you, 0:00:50.469 --> 0:00:54.269 it hasn't I. My wedding dress was very fancy, with 0:00:54.389 --> 0:00:56.989 hand beating all over in a big train. At the 0:00:57.069 --> 0:00:59.109 end of the reception, I finally had time for something 0:00:59.149 --> 0:01:01.909 to eat, and I scoffed a few chocolate tarts, inadvertently 0:01:02.389 --> 0:01:04.829 dripping quite a bit of gin ash down the bodice 0:01:04.869 --> 0:01:06.749 of my dress. Because I'm a messy girl as well 0:01:06.749 --> 0:01:09.749 as a lazy girl. Bad Combo tried to wipe up 0:01:09.749 --> 0:01:12.509 the mess the napkin bad idea chocolate now spread over 0:01:12.549 --> 0:01:14.829 a large portion of bodice and embedded in beadwork and 0:01:14.909 --> 0:01:18.189 lace very bad. When I returned from my honeymoon, I 0:01:18.229 --> 0:01:21.069 thought about getting the dress dry cleaned, quoted as three 0:01:21.189 --> 0:01:24.309 hundred and fifty dollars ridiculous. I thought I would just 0:01:24.429 --> 0:01:26.629 wash it in my bath tub with some sad wonder 0:01:26.709 --> 0:01:29.269 soap as a friend had done. Has turned out okay. 0:01:29.549 --> 0:01:31.469 I never got around to it, and the wedding dress 0:01:31.549 --> 0:01:34.309 is still hanging in its bag in my wardrobe. This 0:01:34.469 --> 0:01:37.789 year is my twentieth wedding out of entry. I refuse 0:01:37.869 --> 0:01:40.069 to throw out the dress, as I might still get 0:01:40.069 --> 0:01:43.269 around to it one day. She's a lazy girl. Oh wow, 0:01:43.509 --> 0:01:45.629 how long did it take you to dry clean your dress? 0:01:45.789 --> 0:01:48.309 Very long time? And my dress was just in my boot. 0:01:48.829 --> 0:01:51.949 The amount of women with their wedding dress and their 0:01:51.949 --> 0:01:55.189 boot still. Oh you got married weeks ago. Oh your 0:01:55.229 --> 0:01:57.749 children have left time. Oh I know where your wedding 0:01:57.829 --> 0:02:01.149 dress is crumpled in the boot. If you are a 0:02:01.469 --> 0:02:06.589 robber listening, yes, rob cars, rob car? No, because then 0:02:06.629 --> 0:02:08.989 a rubber would rob a car. Take the dress and 0:02:09.029 --> 0:02:11.589 be like, got to get it dry clean before I 0:02:11.629 --> 0:02:13.789 sell it. I know this might be a you know, 0:02:14.029 --> 0:02:16.629 thousands of dollars this dress is worth. It's only going 0:02:16.709 --> 0:02:18.589 to take a few hundred to dry clean it. You 0:02:18.589 --> 0:02:20.469 do make a profit, but there's a job involved. There 0:02:20.509 --> 0:02:22.869 is a job involved, and the job of smelling men 0:02:23.309 --> 0:02:25.509 low because you know I sent my address to Norway. 0:02:26.109 --> 0:02:28.949 You did you sold your dress? Okay, here's something we've 0:02:28.949 --> 0:02:30.789 never talked about. I put mine up, being like anyone 0:02:30.829 --> 0:02:33.949 want to buy no bites? Shit? Well mine only had 0:02:33.949 --> 0:02:36.349 the one bite and she was in Norway? Okay? Was 0:02:36.389 --> 0:02:38.669 I offended? Yeah? You think you're going to put your 0:02:38.669 --> 0:02:40.269 wedding dress up and everyone's going to go this is 0:02:40.269 --> 0:02:42.149 the most beautiful wedding dress ever. I want to look 0:02:42.229 --> 0:02:48.429 like this on my day and everyone's everyone's like, oh nah, 0:02:48.509 --> 0:02:53.349 I think it's dakyo. I'll have a sitting in my wardrobe. 0:02:53.429 --> 0:02:56.709 I would really like the cash. The issue with the 0:02:56.789 --> 0:03:00.389 job of dry cleaning it is an issue of deadline 0:03:00.829 --> 0:03:03.709 because there's no dead There is no deadline. It's just 0:03:03.829 --> 0:03:06.069 my to do list has about four or five jobs 0:03:06.069 --> 0:03:09.589 of which they're just not to a clear deadline. So 0:03:09.629 --> 0:03:11.829 it's like, why would I do that today when I 0:03:11.869 --> 0:03:14.149 could do it tomorrow? Will you do it tomorrow? And no, 0:03:14.229 --> 0:03:16.589 because why would I do that tomorrow when I could 0:03:16.589 --> 0:03:20.669 do it later? And so life goes, and then what 0:03:20.709 --> 0:03:23.829 you've done is you die, and you've left someone the 0:03:23.909 --> 0:03:26.869 job of cleaning your wedding dress, and that person goes, 0:03:26.909 --> 0:03:30.149 why do today when I could do it later? And 0:03:30.389 --> 0:03:33.349 so no, no, what do we hand down through the 0:03:33.389 --> 0:03:37.429 family at your nash covered wedding dress? So lovely? 0:03:37.909 --> 0:03:45.709 You are about to enter the canceled courtroom. The defendants 0:03:45.829 --> 0:03:52.109 are celebrities, the chargers are petty, the rulings are final. 0:03:53.909 --> 0:03:58.389 Jeffy, Today we're talking about Jennifer Ghana. Hi, I'm jen 0:03:58.549 --> 0:03:59.429 Jennifer Garner. 0:03:59.709 --> 0:04:04.389 I just watched this down below kissing, and I just floated. 0:04:04.069 --> 0:04:04.789 Home on a cloud. 0:04:05.069 --> 0:04:10.349 Please welcome Jennifer Garner, Jennifer and Ghana. He is an 0:04:10.389 --> 0:04:13.189 American actress who you probably know from her roles in 0:04:13.269 --> 0:04:17.029 TV shows like A Liz and movies like Suddenly Thirty Juno, 0:04:17.389 --> 0:04:22.189 Ghosts of Girlfriend's Past, Valentine's Day, Daredevil, Dallas Fires Club, 0:04:22.349 --> 0:04:25.149 and so on. How many Jennifers have we done? Okay, 0:04:25.309 --> 0:04:30.269 Jennifer Lopez, Jennifer Lawrence, Jennifer Anist, Jennifer Aniston for all 0:04:30.309 --> 0:04:33.029 the famous Jennifers. Do you know many in your life? Nah? 0:04:33.229 --> 0:04:36.389 I don't. I think it's a generational thing. I think 0:04:36.389 --> 0:04:40.109 it's a disproportionate amount of Jennifers that'd become famous. Mary 0:04:40.149 --> 0:04:45.629 ben affleck care I said it great point. Jesse, what 0:04:45.789 --> 0:04:49.069 is your favorite Jennifer Ghaner movie? And or role? Was 0:04:49.109 --> 0:04:52.309 she in Pearl Harbor? We have discussed that minor role, 0:04:52.589 --> 0:04:55.389 minor role, minor role, but I did like that. I'm 0:04:55.389 --> 0:04:57.949 gonna say something un popular. I didn't mind. Suddenly thirty, 0:04:58.149 --> 0:05:03.389 Jenna Rink couldn't grow up fast enough, so on her thirteenth. 0:05:02.829 --> 0:05:05.549 Birthday, check us out wishing dust. 0:05:05.789 --> 0:05:09.669 She only made one wish. I a thirteen. I just 0:05:09.749 --> 0:05:13.429 want to be grin. But I struggle with getting my 0:05:13.589 --> 0:05:18.069 head around magic in a film. Yeah, because I'm trying 0:05:18.109 --> 0:05:20.269 to go in order to keep watching this like Freaky Friday, 0:05:20.429 --> 0:05:23.509 in order to keep watching this, I have to I 0:05:23.549 --> 0:05:26.629 have to suspend my belief of how the world works, 0:05:27.149 --> 0:05:30.549 because this isn't possible what's happening. But I've got to 0:05:30.549 --> 0:05:32.749 be invested in you, in your feelings. It feels like 0:05:32.749 --> 0:05:36.029 a plot device, but you've all either had a psychotic 0:05:36.109 --> 0:05:40.549 break in which case that's a plot point, or you're 0:05:40.549 --> 0:05:43.109 gonna wake up. It was all the dream, which is 0:05:43.149 --> 0:05:45.989 deeply unsatisfying, or I've just got to play this game. 0:05:46.229 --> 0:05:48.389 I don't know if I can play this game. It's 0:05:48.429 --> 0:05:51.069 not real. So I don't know about that film. Okay, 0:05:51.349 --> 0:05:54.429 we'll talk more about that film. But my favorite Jennifer 0:05:54.429 --> 0:05:58.869 gana role where I think she just really was herself, 0:06:00.189 --> 0:06:01.869 like this is who I believe her to beat. Was 0:06:01.869 --> 0:06:02.669 her role in Juno. 0:06:03.549 --> 0:06:07.629 Hi Brings You to them All Today. 0:06:07.989 --> 0:06:10.069 I was just shocking, you know, it's my girlfriend. 0:06:10.429 --> 0:06:15.549 I thought she played that so well. Is an excellent film. 0:06:15.629 --> 0:06:19.749 It is that I want to watch again, and I think, Yeah, 0:06:19.829 --> 0:06:23.749 Jennifer Garner in it was just so believable. A note 0:06:23.789 --> 0:06:26.829 on Valentine's Day, Yeah, she was in it, along with 0:06:26.949 --> 0:06:33.269 literally everyone else Jesse simply everyone, simply everyone. There's also 0:06:33.309 --> 0:06:36.389 a movie called Mother's Day, celebrate the one day no 0:06:36.429 --> 0:06:39.829 matter what's happened between us, here always my mother that 0:06:39.989 --> 0:06:43.029 connects us off or not. Who the world thinks we. 0:06:43.069 --> 0:06:45.149 Are Mother's Day? 0:06:45.669 --> 0:06:50.109 Oh? Yeah, people in that Julia Roberts, Oh gee, lots 0:06:50.149 --> 0:06:53.829 of people. Julia Roberts with a terrible haircut. Okay, because 0:06:53.949 --> 0:06:56.549 the other film, just like Valentine's Day in terms of 0:06:56.589 --> 0:06:58.709 everyone being in it was of course he's just not 0:06:58.749 --> 0:07:02.109 that into And New Year's Eve and News Eve that 0:07:02.269 --> 0:07:03.949 was we went through a stage where was in a 0:07:03.989 --> 0:07:06.029 film and you know what, it was based on Love 0:07:06.029 --> 0:07:09.069 act Love actually. Because on that they will like, imagine 0:07:09.069 --> 0:07:11.709 a film where you just have heaps of famous actors 0:07:11.709 --> 0:07:14.549 on the poster. Yeah, that isn't what made Love actually great. 0:07:15.029 --> 0:07:17.749 It was a great film, absolutely, And then the Americans 0:07:17.789 --> 0:07:20.269 were like, we can do it. We've got twelve actors. Well, 0:07:20.309 --> 0:07:22.389 why don't you sit and write a script for a minute, 0:07:23.149 --> 0:07:26.149 Why don't you write a good script because Valentine's Day 0:07:26.869 --> 0:07:28.989 it doesn't work. They got a bot to do it. 0:07:29.029 --> 0:07:31.109 They got a bot to do it, and it showed tonight. 0:07:31.149 --> 0:07:33.109 The chef is featuring a dish that he likes to 0:07:33.149 --> 0:07:37.109 call the lime Stinking Pig. Also a note, Jennifer Ghana 0:07:37.429 --> 0:07:40.269 was married to Ben Affleck between two thousand and five 0:07:40.389 --> 0:07:44.109 and twenty eighteen, long time, and they have three kids together. 0:07:44.829 --> 0:07:48.149 And there are currently rumors you would know that Ben 0:07:48.189 --> 0:07:50.829 Affleck and j Lo are on the rocks. Yeah, I 0:07:50.829 --> 0:07:54.789 believe it. And yeah, the theory is that Jennifer Ghana 0:07:55.309 --> 0:07:59.989 has been speaking to Jennifer Lopez and like helping her 0:08:00.069 --> 0:08:04.189 through this and is also speaking to Ben and encouraging 0:08:04.509 --> 0:08:10.109 Ben to stay with Jen because Jen, she's such an 0:08:10.109 --> 0:08:13.269 marriage counselor, is very good for Ben. Jenny is good 0:08:13.269 --> 0:08:16.949 for Ben and she supported him through his addictions. Jen 0:08:17.109 --> 0:08:20.989 lo Pez is good. Oh I think Jenna good for 0:08:21.029 --> 0:08:23.869 Ben too. Yeah. She says Ben, you need Jen, and 0:08:23.909 --> 0:08:27.829 he says, which Jen. She says Jen you're currently married to, 0:08:28.509 --> 0:08:31.509 just for logistical purposes, the one you're that that gen. 0:08:31.949 --> 0:08:37.269 Also for context. She does a lot of gardening on tiktop. Hello, squash, 0:08:37.549 --> 0:08:39.749 there is not your dad. I've been waiting for the 0:08:39.829 --> 0:08:44.309 sunflower seeds to be ready. Cash. She's popping up very hosh. 0:08:44.429 --> 0:08:46.909 Couldn't be less like j Loo. And I don't mean 0:08:46.949 --> 0:08:48.989 that as a slide, No, I just mean that as 0:08:49.469 --> 0:08:51.829 she's in a different place, whereas j Loo is like, 0:08:52.149 --> 0:08:56.789 this is me now on the met Gala garpet. Yeah, 0:08:56.829 --> 0:09:01.589 where's Ben, Jen? Where's my Ben? You're Ben? He was 0:09:01.629 --> 0:09:04.909 my Ben. I'm a different Gen. Ben, go back to Jen? 0:09:05.189 --> 0:09:10.789 Which Gen, et cetera? Yeah, it is. My structure for 0:09:10.829 --> 0:09:14.149 today is as follows an awkward call out, a late 0:09:14.229 --> 0:09:18.109 night interview, an uncomfortable question. I love the ambiguity of 0:09:18.149 --> 0:09:22.709 all somebody and suddenly thirty okay good an awkward call out. 0:09:23.109 --> 0:09:26.669 It's two thousand and three. Jennifer Ganna is starring in Alias, 0:09:26.869 --> 0:09:31.509 and she's very, very famous. Jesse, did you ever watch Alias? 0:09:31.989 --> 0:09:35.109 I didn't, but there were girls at school who really 0:09:35.189 --> 0:09:36.469 liked it, and I kind of put it in the 0:09:36.589 --> 0:09:40.549 Buffy camp. M you were an Alias personal? You were 0:09:40.589 --> 0:09:43.629 an Alias person? Was she a spy? Yes? It sounds 0:09:43.669 --> 0:09:46.349 like I would have liked that. I know, I know, 0:09:46.469 --> 0:09:47.869 I feel like do I feel like she was a 0:09:47.869 --> 0:09:50.469 magic spye? I feel like there was something in it 0:09:50.509 --> 0:09:54.269 that I just couldn't fully get around. Yeah, I watched it. No, 0:09:54.309 --> 0:09:57.349 I never watched it, but I never watched Buffy either. No. 0:09:57.829 --> 0:10:01.069 So she was doing the rounds because as well as 0:10:01.109 --> 0:10:05.309 promoting Alias, she was promoting her new movie Daredevil, which 0:10:05.349 --> 0:10:08.229 Ben Affleck was also in, and so she was on 0:10:08.429 --> 0:10:12.549 Conan O'Brien. He She asked her if during Alias she 0:10:12.749 --> 0:10:15.709 used any spy skills she learnt from the show in 0:10:15.789 --> 0:10:19.069 real life, and she tells a story about how they 0:10:19.189 --> 0:10:22.909 kept the show's twists from her, like the scripts ahead 0:10:22.949 --> 0:10:24.949 of time. They don't want you to know. Writer's Room 0:10:24.989 --> 0:10:28.549 and it's completely closed off, particularly to actors, particularly to me. 0:10:28.829 --> 0:10:30.789 So she went into the writer's room and read all 0:10:30.829 --> 0:10:33.069 the notes about what was to come, and she used 0:10:33.109 --> 0:10:34.949 spy skills to get into the writer's room. That was 0:10:34.989 --> 0:10:38.189 the story. Christ Sorry. But as she's telling the story, 0:10:38.349 --> 0:10:39.669 Conan O'Brien says. 0:10:39.509 --> 0:10:41.109 Well, there's a time when you snuck into the room. 0:10:41.189 --> 0:10:43.589 And she says, snuck isn't a word, Conan, and you 0:10:43.629 --> 0:10:46.669 went to Harvard and you should know that that's funny. The 0:10:46.749 --> 0:10:50.909 audience cheers, collaps. She finishes the story. Then, after the 0:10:50.909 --> 0:10:54.749 ad break, ConA O'Brien returns holding a dictionary. He points 0:10:54.749 --> 0:10:57.509 out that snuck is a word. It is the past 0:10:57.549 --> 0:11:02.389 tense of sneak. According to Miriam Webster, the original past 0:11:02.469 --> 0:11:06.109 tense of sneak was sneaked, following the pattern of other 0:11:06.149 --> 0:11:09.829 regular verbs. However, snuck began to be used as an 0:11:09.829 --> 0:11:12.949 altar her native past tense form in the eighteen hundreds 0:11:13.229 --> 0:11:16.589 and is now very common. Would you say snuck or sneaked, 0:11:16.709 --> 0:11:19.189 I'd say snuck. I'd say snuck, But I will say 0:11:19.829 --> 0:11:22.949 it's very a white man, I think it's she corrected 0:11:23.029 --> 0:11:24.989 him in the first place. Yeah, but where'd you get 0:11:25.029 --> 0:11:27.669 a dictionary? Like apparently one of the writers run it 0:11:27.709 --> 0:11:30.989 down during the ad break. He does it very well 0:11:31.389 --> 0:11:34.589 because he points it out. She does a bit of 0:11:34.589 --> 0:11:36.709 like an awkward face and then he does like a 0:11:36.909 --> 0:11:41.509 cackle like villain laugh, knuck, pass and pass part of sneak. 0:11:46.429 --> 0:11:48.589 It's not mean to her the way he does it. 0:11:48.589 --> 0:11:52.349 It's like expert, Oh how he does it? Okay, alright, alright, 0:11:52.629 --> 0:11:58.309 So she looks awkward, like purposely performatively awkward. And this 0:11:58.429 --> 0:12:02.269 clip has done the rounds on TikTok and YouTube, and 0:12:02.429 --> 0:12:05.549 a lot of people comment saying she didn't even apologize. 0:12:05.589 --> 0:12:08.229 She didn't even admit she was wrong, and it's like, 0:12:08.389 --> 0:12:10.589 I think it wasn't meant to be funny. It's a show. 0:12:11.189 --> 0:12:16.229 She's acting awkward, it's humor. I will say, I don't 0:12:16.349 --> 0:12:19.429 enjoy being corrected on my past tense in a social setting. 0:12:19.509 --> 0:12:21.989 I don't. And that's what people are saying. They're like, 0:12:22.069 --> 0:12:25.389 she tried to correct him and she was wrong. I mean, 0:12:25.429 --> 0:12:27.669 it was obviously a public interview and she was quite 0:12:27.709 --> 0:12:29.309 funny bring up a Harvard thing. But like I have 0:12:29.429 --> 0:12:33.909 been in conversations and people like it's Luca and I oh, 0:12:33.949 --> 0:12:37.989 and I'm like, okay, me and Luke went to the zoo. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:38.029 --> 0:12:40.709 you know what, I am my English teacher. I don't 0:12:40.789 --> 0:12:43.749 like it exactly. So yeah, people do get riled up 0:12:43.749 --> 0:12:47.109 about that, think that she's a bit of a princess. 0:12:47.389 --> 0:12:50.509 But I say it's an interesting little back and forth 0:12:50.589 --> 0:12:54.509 and it's just a silly interview. Moving on a late 0:12:54.589 --> 0:13:00.909 night interview. During the same interview, she told a story 0:13:01.149 --> 0:13:04.029 that has gone viral for all the wrong reasons. Speaking 0:13:04.029 --> 0:13:07.469 about Daredevil, she shared an anecdote about how her co 0:13:07.589 --> 0:13:11.109 star Colin Farrell got a bit too aggressive in a 0:13:11.149 --> 0:13:13.389 scene where they were supposed to be kissing and she 0:13:13.589 --> 0:13:16.029 ended up with a swollen lip. The next day, he 0:13:16.229 --> 0:13:18.589 was biting her lip, and she goes on to tell 0:13:18.589 --> 0:13:21.469 this whole story. Was she saying it lightheartedly? Yes, okay. 0:13:21.749 --> 0:13:24.669 She then joked that by the end of shooting the scene, 0:13:24.669 --> 0:13:26.829 Pharrell was treating her lip like a meal and pulling 0:13:26.869 --> 0:13:28.789 it out and putting ketchup on it like a joke 0:13:28.829 --> 0:13:30.749 about how much he was just eating her bottom lip. 0:13:31.709 --> 0:13:34.069 She says that she woke up the next morning and 0:13:34.109 --> 0:13:36.989 she walks into the living room and her husband at 0:13:36.989 --> 0:13:39.869 the time Scott, who she left and ended up with 0:13:39.909 --> 0:13:44.829 Ben Affleck was sitting there in shock, and she says 0:13:45.189 --> 0:13:48.349 that her lip looked like one of those African women 0:13:48.469 --> 0:13:51.469 with a plate in their mouths. Oh no, okay. This 0:13:51.829 --> 0:13:54.669 was two thousand and three, all right, all right, two 0:13:54.709 --> 0:13:56.909 thousand and three, And what has happened is people have 0:13:57.589 --> 0:14:01.949 taken this interview, resurfaced it, put it everywhere. You wouldn't 0:14:01.949 --> 0:14:04.429 say it now, You wouldn't say it now. I understand 0:14:04.469 --> 0:14:07.669 why it's offensive, because it's saying like, my injury and 0:14:07.749 --> 0:14:11.989 me when I've hurt myself is the same as cultural practice. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:12.029 --> 0:14:14.909 it's quite degrading to the cultural practice. I totally get that. 0:14:15.229 --> 0:14:18.829 But I also see the context and also knowing how 0:14:18.869 --> 0:14:21.549 those interviews are conducted, like that story would have been 0:14:21.589 --> 0:14:23.989 designed by a PR team and she's just kind of 0:14:24.429 --> 0:14:26.829 delivering on it, and it looks a lot worse being 0:14:26.829 --> 0:14:29.149 thrust into our context than it might have. Do you 0:14:29.229 --> 0:14:30.829 know at the time, if it got any backlash? 0:14:31.229 --> 0:14:31.349 No? 0:14:31.749 --> 0:14:34.109 Yeah, no, no, no backlash in two thousand and three. 0:14:34.149 --> 0:14:37.189 And I think that's also because people weren't online, people 0:14:37.229 --> 0:14:40.309 just watching things on a late night show, seeing a comment, 0:14:40.589 --> 0:14:43.789 maybe thinking e and then're moving on. Yeah, so it 0:14:43.949 --> 0:14:49.069 kind of got resurfaced and made into a very intentional 0:14:49.349 --> 0:14:54.829 significant thing and has then been combined with a few 0:14:54.829 --> 0:14:57.829 other things that she said, Okay, moving on to an 0:14:57.869 --> 0:15:02.669 uncomfortable question. The other problematic moment that has been resurfaced 0:15:02.909 --> 0:15:07.109 comes from a twenty seventeen chat show. During an episode 0:15:07.149 --> 0:15:11.389 of comedian Chelsea Handler's Netflix talk show Helsey, there are 0:15:11.429 --> 0:15:13.989 a bunch of celebrities sitting around at a dinner party, 0:15:14.229 --> 0:15:17.909 and Handler says, let's talk about our families first, where 0:15:17.949 --> 0:15:21.629 we came from, where our parents came from. Actor Regina King, 0:15:21.829 --> 0:15:24.429 who is black, tells the group that she's from LA 0:15:24.629 --> 0:15:27.229 and she starts talking about how so many people live there. Oh, 0:15:27.269 --> 0:15:29.509 I think I've seen this, yes, but not that many 0:15:29.509 --> 0:15:31.349 people actually grew up in LA. 0:15:31.869 --> 0:15:34.349 And she's saying, one of the few people that are 0:15:34.349 --> 0:15:36.829 born and bred in LA. So that's I think, a 0:15:36.949 --> 0:15:38.429 very cool thing and I kind of wear it on 0:15:38.429 --> 0:15:41.789 my chest very proudly because so many people say, oh, 0:15:41.989 --> 0:15:43.429 LA is in LA? Is it? 0:15:43.789 --> 0:15:46.669 And she talks about how it's interesting being the only 0:15:46.709 --> 0:15:49.429 person who's able to kind of truly say what is 0:15:49.469 --> 0:15:52.589 and isn't La because she had her childhood. There sitting 0:15:52.589 --> 0:15:55.309 across the table from her, Ghana asks, but do you 0:15:55.349 --> 0:15:57.109 know where your ancestors are from? 0:15:57.189 --> 0:16:00.469 King says, oh, well, yeah, we're part of the triangle 0:16:00.549 --> 0:16:05.749 slavery from sier early on, Liberia and Synegal, but my 0:16:05.789 --> 0:16:08.269 parents are both from the South met each other here. 0:16:08.629 --> 0:16:12.949 People got really angry about this, and it was originally 0:16:12.989 --> 0:16:16.989 tweeted with the caption, oh I see why Ben left 0:16:17.029 --> 0:16:21.949 her ass about Jennifer Ganner. Okay, as though Ben Affleck 0:16:22.029 --> 0:16:26.349 who got married in a plantation, it was just so 0:16:26.509 --> 0:16:30.229 much fun. Was the best? Is the gold standard when 0:16:30.229 --> 0:16:33.189 it comes to conversations about race. Yeah, there's been lots 0:16:33.189 --> 0:16:37.349 of analysis about her facial expression and her ignorance in 0:16:37.429 --> 0:16:42.349 this really really short clip, and I completely appreciate that 0:16:42.389 --> 0:16:45.949 it may have been an insensitive or inappropriate question, but 0:16:46.069 --> 0:16:49.349 we don't have all the context. It's edited when not 0:16:49.429 --> 0:16:52.709 seeing a natural conversation. Something I want to point out 0:16:53.189 --> 0:16:57.589 is that Regina King hasn't said anything. Regina King hasn't 0:16:57.589 --> 0:17:00.549 come out I said. Sometimes you can use these clips, though, 0:17:00.549 --> 0:17:02.389 if you're a person of color, you might be using 0:17:02.429 --> 0:17:08.269 this clip to illustrate how uncomfortable that question is and 0:17:08.309 --> 0:17:11.509 how it is asked more of some people than of others, 0:17:11.709 --> 0:17:14.429 because if Jennifer Garanna, for example, had said I'm from 0:17:14.589 --> 0:17:17.389 New York or I'm from New Jersey or whatever, no 0:17:17.469 --> 0:17:20.349 one at the table would have said, yeah, but where 0:17:20.349 --> 0:17:22.869 are your ancestors from? Why? Because she's white, and because 0:17:23.109 --> 0:17:28.309 you associate whiteness with being American, which is inherently racist. Like, 0:17:28.349 --> 0:17:32.029 I do understand the commentary, and I don't think that 0:17:32.109 --> 0:17:36.349 Jennifer Ganner's subjectivity as a white woman in that context 0:17:36.669 --> 0:17:39.269 makes it look good. I'm sure that she would regret 0:17:39.389 --> 0:17:41.149 the way that came across. I think it's an interesting 0:17:41.189 --> 0:17:45.829 example because it really may have been that it was inappropriate. Ye, 0:17:45.989 --> 0:17:49.469 But the context is interesting because some people pointed out 0:17:49.509 --> 0:17:51.749 that her question made a lot more sense in the 0:17:51.789 --> 0:17:56.229 overall context of the show, which was titled My American Experience, 0:17:56.509 --> 0:18:00.709 where the guests were encouraged to discuss their roots, patriotism, religion, 0:18:00.829 --> 0:18:03.829 and modern America's complexities, and they were asked how their 0:18:03.909 --> 0:18:06.389 parents got to America. So she felt like she had 0:18:06.389 --> 0:18:08.229 a license yeah to ask that. 0:18:08.429 --> 0:18:08.549 Ye. 0:18:08.629 --> 0:18:10.709 Yeah, that's interesting and it was kind of part of 0:18:10.709 --> 0:18:14.509 the broader conversation. Then again, I do think sometimes it's 0:18:14.549 --> 0:18:17.709 okay to use an example of something and analyze it 0:18:17.869 --> 0:18:18.989 to a straighter point. 0:18:19.149 --> 0:18:19.349 Yeah. 0:18:19.429 --> 0:18:20.949 Yeah, And I think that's what a lot of people 0:18:20.949 --> 0:18:23.429 were doing, saying, this is my experience. People ask me 0:18:23.469 --> 0:18:26.269 this question and it's friggin inappropriate, and you wouldn't ask 0:18:26.349 --> 0:18:28.829 it the other way around. So I think that's also fair. 0:18:29.109 --> 0:18:32.349 I also think it's worth acknowledging that the question doesn't 0:18:32.389 --> 0:18:35.829 mean the same thing to everyone. Yeah, so people asking 0:18:35.869 --> 0:18:39.829 me where are your parents from? Where are your ancestors from? 0:18:40.149 --> 0:18:43.309 Doesn't have the kind of emotional salience that may for 0:18:43.349 --> 0:18:56.429 somebody else. Jesse Suddenly thirty like your shoes, Thanks? I 0:18:56.549 --> 0:18:59.349 like your dress because they've got these incredible boobs to 0:18:59.389 --> 0:19:03.149 fill it out. Suddenly thirty, for reasons unknown, is called 0:19:03.189 --> 0:19:07.149 thirteen going on thirty in the US. Actually, it made 0:19:07.189 --> 0:19:10.549 me slightly intrigued, so I googled it. The movie is 0:19:10.629 --> 0:19:14.669 called thirteen going on thirty in almost every place. Why 0:19:14.669 --> 0:19:17.469 did we call it suddenly thirty here? It makes it 0:19:17.509 --> 0:19:21.389 difficult to have conversations with Americans. Yes, it's thirteen going 0:19:21.389 --> 0:19:24.749 on thirty, I'm pretty sure everywhere except Australian Why because 0:19:24.789 --> 0:19:30.949 distributors thought Australians wouldn't understand. Oh no, the concept slash 0:19:31.069 --> 0:19:34.429 phrase of thirteen going on thirty. They thought we wouldn't 0:19:34.469 --> 0:19:34.789 get that. 0:19:34.949 --> 0:19:39.149 Australians have proven we can understand phrases. 0:19:38.909 --> 0:19:42.429 So they were like, suddenly, thirty, I'm modified. Okay, that's 0:19:42.469 --> 0:19:45.389 a phrase though, Yeah, thirteen going on, I mean, and 0:19:45.429 --> 0:19:47.989 this is the thing. It's like, Oh, don't get me wrong. 0:19:48.549 --> 0:19:51.669 I still don't fully understand the premise. Maybe it's an 0:19:51.669 --> 0:19:54.389 Australian thing. Maybe everyone else in the world is like, oh, 0:19:54.429 --> 0:19:58.949 it totally makes sense. I think it's unrealistic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:19:58.989 --> 0:20:01.669 but it's not the title. No, It's like they think 0:20:01.709 --> 0:20:04.789 we don't say going on, But like I listened to 0:20:04.869 --> 0:20:06.749 the Sound of Music soundtrack a lot, and it's like, 0:20:06.869 --> 0:20:11.749 I am sixteen going on seventeen. That's fine, I understand it. 0:20:12.029 --> 0:20:14.869 I can read between the line it means you're sixteen 0:20:14.909 --> 0:20:17.189 and soon you will be seventeen, whereas the title of 0:20:17.189 --> 0:20:19.629 this movie means you're thirteen and oh my gosh, soon 0:20:19.669 --> 0:20:23.909 you'll be thirty because of magic. Yes, now there are 0:20:23.989 --> 0:20:26.389 other movies where this has happened as well. You know 0:20:26.869 --> 0:20:29.949 one of our favorite films, Bad Neighbors. Yes, yes, what 0:20:29.989 --> 0:20:30.469 are you doing. 0:20:30.789 --> 0:20:32.589 We're throwing a Robert de Niro party. 0:20:33.189 --> 0:20:34.829 Should be pretty fucking loud. 0:20:35.189 --> 0:20:37.309 It's probably gonna go pretty fucking late too. 0:20:37.469 --> 0:20:43.989 It was just called neighbors that is in American. In America, 0:20:44.109 --> 0:20:46.429 she is confusing because I'm not going to the movies 0:20:46.469 --> 0:20:49.749 to watch neighbors. Okay, that's on the TV. It's like, 0:20:50.229 --> 0:20:53.029 was it bad neighbors here to avoid confusion with neighbors? 0:20:53.709 --> 0:20:56.869 Or was it bad neighbors here because they're like Australians 0:20:56.869 --> 0:21:00.189 won't understand they're bad. Yeah, yeah, I'll think this is 0:21:00.229 --> 0:21:03.949 just normal neighbors. He They've got to really really make 0:21:04.029 --> 0:21:06.789 things clear for them. These neighbors are bad because they're 0:21:06.789 --> 0:21:09.549 disruptive and they're partying. Or is in Australia that's just 0:21:09.589 --> 0:21:12.789 a neighbor. You don't know me, Yeah, you don't know 0:21:12.869 --> 0:21:15.789 my neighbors. Anyway. It's very very odd and it's quite 0:21:15.789 --> 0:21:19.589 embarrassing that Australia needed a different title. AnyWho, that's not 0:21:19.629 --> 0:21:22.509 why we're here. We're here because Jennifer Gannah stars in it. 0:21:22.509 --> 0:21:25.229 It's arguably her most famous role and there's a lot 0:21:25.229 --> 0:21:26.869 of feelings about I didn't like that scene where she 0:21:26.869 --> 0:21:29.429 did the dance I didn't like it. It made me uncomfortable. Well, 0:21:29.469 --> 0:21:32.349 I'll get to that. Mark Ruffalo's in it. He's hot, man, 0:21:32.389 --> 0:21:35.789 Mark Ruffalo, more like Mark Buffalo. Sometimes you forget that 0:21:35.829 --> 0:21:39.389 Mark Ruffalo's in it and he's very sexy. For those 0:21:39.429 --> 0:21:42.909 who haven't seen it, Suddenly thirty, it's a romantic comedy 0:21:43.149 --> 0:21:45.909 and Mark Ruffalo plays love interest Matty. Wh's the thing 0:21:46.029 --> 0:21:48.709 is everyone's seen it? Find me a person hasn't seen it. 0:21:48.709 --> 0:21:52.029 But sometimes people forget the details, all right. A nerdy 0:21:52.109 --> 0:21:55.149 thirteen year old named Jenna desperately wants to be popular, 0:21:55.709 --> 0:21:57.349 so she gets the popular group to come to her 0:21:57.389 --> 0:22:00.989 thirteenth birthday by doing their homework. Her best friend and 0:22:01.109 --> 0:22:04.429 extraor neighbor, Matty, has made a doll house for her 0:22:04.629 --> 0:22:07.629 with his bare hands, and he sprinkles the roof with 0:22:07.789 --> 0:22:11.829 magic wishing dust. I think you're a little bit old 0:22:11.869 --> 0:22:14.229 for a doll's house at thirteen. I think you are two. 0:22:14.509 --> 0:22:16.669 And I think that for the audience who was watching this, 0:22:17.269 --> 0:22:19.109