1 00:00:11,189 --> 00:00:15,389 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mom and Maya 2 00:00:15,429 --> 00:00:18,709 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this 3 00:00:18,749 --> 00:00:30,989 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to cancel the 4 00:00:31,029 --> 00:00:34,309 Speaker 1: podcast that looks at silly celebrity crimes and assigence charges 5 00:00:34,429 --> 00:00:36,749 Speaker 1: and sentences to them so we can all move on 6 00:00:36,789 --> 00:00:39,429 Speaker 1: with our lives. I'm Klaire Stevens and I'm joined by 7 00:00:39,669 --> 00:00:42,109 Speaker 1: Jesse Stevens and Jesse do you have a lazy girl 8 00:00:42,189 --> 00:00:44,669 Speaker 1: story for us? I do. I have one which I 9 00:00:44,669 --> 00:00:47,069 Speaker 1: feel like is going to be particularly relatable to both 10 00:00:47,109 --> 00:00:50,389 Speaker 1: of us. It is from Claire. Oh but not you, 11 00:00:50,469 --> 00:00:54,269 Speaker 1: it hasn't I. My wedding dress was very fancy, with 12 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:56,989 Speaker 1: hand beating all over in a big train. At the 13 00:00:57,069 --> 00:00:59,109 Speaker 1: end of the reception, I finally had time for something 14 00:00:59,149 --> 00:01:01,909 Speaker 1: to eat, and I scoffed a few chocolate tarts, inadvertently 15 00:01:02,389 --> 00:01:04,829 Speaker 1: dripping quite a bit of gin ash down the bodice 16 00:01:04,869 --> 00:01:06,749 Speaker 1: of my dress. Because I'm a messy girl as well 17 00:01:06,749 --> 00:01:09,749 Speaker 1: as a lazy girl. Bad Combo tried to wipe up 18 00:01:09,749 --> 00:01:12,509 Speaker 1: the mess the napkin bad idea chocolate now spread over 19 00:01:12,549 --> 00:01:14,829 Speaker 1: a large portion of bodice and embedded in beadwork and 20 00:01:14,909 --> 00:01:18,189 Speaker 1: lace very bad. When I returned from my honeymoon, I 21 00:01:18,229 --> 00:01:21,069 Speaker 1: thought about getting the dress dry cleaned, quoted as three 22 00:01:21,189 --> 00:01:24,309 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars ridiculous. I thought I would just 23 00:01:24,429 --> 00:01:26,629 Speaker 1: wash it in my bath tub with some sad wonder 24 00:01:26,709 --> 00:01:29,269 Speaker 1: soap as a friend had done. Has turned out okay. 25 00:01:29,549 --> 00:01:31,469 Speaker 1: I never got around to it, and the wedding dress 26 00:01:31,549 --> 00:01:34,309 Speaker 1: is still hanging in its bag in my wardrobe. This 27 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:37,789 Speaker 1: year is my twentieth wedding out of entry. I refuse 28 00:01:37,869 --> 00:01:40,069 Speaker 1: to throw out the dress, as I might still get 29 00:01:40,069 --> 00:01:43,269 Speaker 1: around to it one day. She's a lazy girl. Oh wow, 30 00:01:43,509 --> 00:01:45,629 Speaker 1: how long did it take you to dry clean your dress? 31 00:01:45,789 --> 00:01:48,309 Speaker 1: Very long time? And my dress was just in my boot. 32 00:01:48,829 --> 00:01:51,949 Speaker 1: The amount of women with their wedding dress and their 33 00:01:51,949 --> 00:01:55,189 Speaker 1: boot still. Oh you got married weeks ago. Oh your 34 00:01:55,229 --> 00:01:57,749 Speaker 1: children have left time. Oh I know where your wedding 35 00:01:57,829 --> 00:02:01,149 Speaker 1: dress is crumpled in the boot. If you are a 36 00:02:01,469 --> 00:02:06,589 Speaker 1: robber listening, yes, rob cars, rob car? No, because then 37 00:02:06,629 --> 00:02:08,989 Speaker 1: a rubber would rob a car. Take the dress and 38 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:11,589 Speaker 1: be like, got to get it dry clean before I 39 00:02:11,629 --> 00:02:13,789 Speaker 1: sell it. I know this might be a you know, 40 00:02:14,029 --> 00:02:16,629 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars this dress is worth. It's only going 41 00:02:16,709 --> 00:02:18,589 Speaker 1: to take a few hundred to dry clean it. You 42 00:02:18,589 --> 00:02:20,469 Speaker 1: do make a profit, but there's a job involved. There 43 00:02:20,509 --> 00:02:22,869 Speaker 1: is a job involved, and the job of smelling men 44 00:02:23,309 --> 00:02:25,509 Speaker 1: low because you know I sent my address to Norway. 45 00:02:26,109 --> 00:02:28,949 Speaker 1: You did you sold your dress? Okay, here's something we've 46 00:02:28,949 --> 00:02:30,789 Speaker 1: never talked about. I put mine up, being like anyone 47 00:02:30,829 --> 00:02:33,949 Speaker 1: want to buy no bites? Shit? Well mine only had 48 00:02:33,949 --> 00:02:36,349 Speaker 1: the one bite and she was in Norway? Okay? Was 49 00:02:36,389 --> 00:02:38,669 Speaker 1: I offended? Yeah? You think you're going to put your 50 00:02:38,669 --> 00:02:40,269 Speaker 1: wedding dress up and everyone's going to go this is 51 00:02:40,269 --> 00:02:42,149 Speaker 1: the most beautiful wedding dress ever. I want to look 52 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:48,429 Speaker 1: like this on my day and everyone's everyone's like, oh nah, 53 00:02:48,509 --> 00:02:53,349 Speaker 1: I think it's dakyo. I'll have a sitting in my wardrobe. 54 00:02:53,429 --> 00:02:56,709 Speaker 1: I would really like the cash. The issue with the 55 00:02:56,789 --> 00:03:00,389 Speaker 1: job of dry cleaning it is an issue of deadline 56 00:03:00,829 --> 00:03:03,709 Speaker 1: because there's no dead There is no deadline. It's just 57 00:03:03,829 --> 00:03:06,069 Speaker 1: my to do list has about four or five jobs 58 00:03:06,069 --> 00:03:09,589 Speaker 1: of which they're just not to a clear deadline. So 59 00:03:09,629 --> 00:03:11,829 Speaker 1: it's like, why would I do that today when I 60 00:03:11,869 --> 00:03:14,149 Speaker 1: could do it tomorrow? Will you do it tomorrow? And no, 61 00:03:14,229 --> 00:03:16,589 Speaker 1: because why would I do that tomorrow when I could 62 00:03:16,589 --> 00:03:20,669 Speaker 1: do it later? And so life goes, and then what 63 00:03:20,709 --> 00:03:23,829 Speaker 1: you've done is you die, and you've left someone the 64 00:03:23,909 --> 00:03:26,869 Speaker 1: job of cleaning your wedding dress, and that person goes, 65 00:03:26,909 --> 00:03:30,149 Speaker 1: why do today when I could do it later? And 66 00:03:30,389 --> 00:03:33,349 Speaker 1: so no, no, what do we hand down through the 67 00:03:33,389 --> 00:03:37,429 Speaker 1: family at your nash covered wedding dress? So lovely? 68 00:03:37,909 --> 00:03:45,709 Speaker 2: You are about to enter the canceled courtroom. The defendants 69 00:03:45,829 --> 00:03:52,109 Speaker 2: are celebrities, the chargers are petty, the rulings are final. 70 00:03:53,909 --> 00:03:58,389 Speaker 1: Jeffy, Today we're talking about Jennifer Ghana. Hi, I'm jen 71 00:03:58,549 --> 00:03:59,429 Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner. 72 00:03:59,709 --> 00:04:04,389 Speaker 3: I just watched this down below kissing, and I just floated. 73 00:04:04,069 --> 00:04:04,789 Speaker 2: Home on a cloud. 74 00:04:05,069 --> 00:04:10,349 Speaker 1: Please welcome Jennifer Garner, Jennifer and Ghana. He is an 75 00:04:10,389 --> 00:04:13,189 Speaker 1: American actress who you probably know from her roles in 76 00:04:13,269 --> 00:04:17,029 Speaker 1: TV shows like A Liz and movies like Suddenly Thirty Juno, 77 00:04:17,389 --> 00:04:22,189 Speaker 1: Ghosts of Girlfriend's Past, Valentine's Day, Daredevil, Dallas Fires Club, 78 00:04:22,349 --> 00:04:25,149 Speaker 1: and so on. How many Jennifers have we done? Okay, 79 00:04:25,309 --> 00:04:30,269 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez, Jennifer Lawrence, Jennifer Anist, Jennifer Aniston for all 80 00:04:30,309 --> 00:04:33,029 Speaker 1: the famous Jennifers. Do you know many in your life? Nah? 81 00:04:33,229 --> 00:04:36,389 Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's a generational thing. I think 82 00:04:36,389 --> 00:04:40,109 Speaker 1: it's a disproportionate amount of Jennifers that'd become famous. Mary 83 00:04:40,149 --> 00:04:45,629 Speaker 1: ben affleck care I said it great point. Jesse, what 84 00:04:45,789 --> 00:04:49,069 Speaker 1: is your favorite Jennifer Ghaner movie? And or role? Was 85 00:04:49,109 --> 00:04:52,309 Speaker 1: she in Pearl Harbor? We have discussed that minor role, 86 00:04:52,589 --> 00:04:55,389 Speaker 1: minor role, minor role, but I did like that. I'm 87 00:04:55,389 --> 00:04:57,949 Speaker 1: gonna say something un popular. I didn't mind. Suddenly thirty, 88 00:04:58,149 --> 00:05:03,389 Speaker 1: Jenna Rink couldn't grow up fast enough, so on her thirteenth. 89 00:05:02,829 --> 00:05:05,549 Speaker 2: Birthday, check us out wishing dust. 90 00:05:05,789 --> 00:05:09,669 Speaker 1: She only made one wish. I a thirteen. I just 91 00:05:09,749 --> 00:05:13,429 Speaker 1: want to be grin. But I struggle with getting my 92 00:05:13,589 --> 00:05:18,069 Speaker 1: head around magic in a film. Yeah, because I'm trying 93 00:05:18,109 --> 00:05:20,269 Speaker 1: to go in order to keep watching this like Freaky Friday, 94 00:05:20,429 --> 00:05:23,509 Speaker 1: in order to keep watching this, I have to I 95 00:05:23,549 --> 00:05:26,629 Speaker 1: have to suspend my belief of how the world works, 96 00:05:27,149 --> 00:05:30,549 Speaker 1: because this isn't possible what's happening. But I've got to 97 00:05:30,549 --> 00:05:32,749 Speaker 1: be invested in you, in your feelings. It feels like 98 00:05:32,749 --> 00:05:36,029 Speaker 1: a plot device, but you've all either had a psychotic 99 00:05:36,109 --> 00:05:40,549 Speaker 1: break in which case that's a plot point, or you're 100 00:05:40,549 --> 00:05:43,109 Speaker 1: gonna wake up. It was all the dream, which is 101 00:05:43,149 --> 00:05:45,989 Speaker 1: deeply unsatisfying, or I've just got to play this game. 102 00:05:46,229 --> 00:05:48,389 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can play this game. It's 103 00:05:48,429 --> 00:05:51,069 Speaker 1: not real. So I don't know about that film. Okay, 104 00:05:51,349 --> 00:05:54,429 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about that film. But my favorite Jennifer 105 00:05:54,429 --> 00:05:58,869 Speaker 1: gana role where I think she just really was herself, 106 00:06:00,189 --> 00:06:01,869 Speaker 1: like this is who I believe her to beat. Was 107 00:06:01,869 --> 00:06:02,669 Speaker 1: her role in Juno. 108 00:06:03,549 --> 00:06:07,629 Speaker 2: Hi Brings You to them All Today. 109 00:06:07,989 --> 00:06:10,069 Speaker 3: I was just shocking, you know, it's my girlfriend. 110 00:06:10,429 --> 00:06:15,549 Speaker 1: I thought she played that so well. Is an excellent film. 111 00:06:15,629 --> 00:06:19,749 Speaker 1: It is that I want to watch again, and I think, Yeah, 112 00:06:19,829 --> 00:06:23,749 Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner in it was just so believable. A note 113 00:06:23,789 --> 00:06:26,829 Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day, Yeah, she was in it, along with 114 00:06:26,949 --> 00:06:33,269 Speaker 1: literally everyone else Jesse simply everyone, simply everyone. There's also 115 00:06:33,309 --> 00:06:36,389 Speaker 1: a movie called Mother's Day, celebrate the one day no 116 00:06:36,429 --> 00:06:39,829 Speaker 1: matter what's happened between us, here always my mother that 117 00:06:39,989 --> 00:06:43,029 Speaker 1: connects us off or not. Who the world thinks we. 118 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:45,149 Speaker 3: Are Mother's Day? 119 00:06:45,669 --> 00:06:50,109 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, people in that Julia Roberts, Oh gee, lots 120 00:06:50,149 --> 00:06:53,829 Speaker 1: of people. Julia Roberts with a terrible haircut. Okay, because 121 00:06:53,949 --> 00:06:56,549 Speaker 1: the other film, just like Valentine's Day in terms of 122 00:06:56,589 --> 00:06:58,709 Speaker 1: everyone being in it was of course he's just not 123 00:06:58,749 --> 00:07:02,109 Speaker 1: that into And New Year's Eve and News Eve that 124 00:07:02,269 --> 00:07:03,949 Speaker 1: was we went through a stage where was in a 125 00:07:03,989 --> 00:07:06,029 Speaker 1: film and you know what, it was based on Love 126 00:07:06,029 --> 00:07:09,069 Speaker 1: act Love actually. Because on that they will like, imagine 127 00:07:09,069 --> 00:07:11,709 Speaker 1: a film where you just have heaps of famous actors 128 00:07:11,709 --> 00:07:14,549 Speaker 1: on the poster. Yeah, that isn't what made Love actually great. 129 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:17,749 Speaker 1: It was a great film, absolutely, And then the Americans 130 00:07:17,789 --> 00:07:20,269 Speaker 1: were like, we can do it. We've got twelve actors. Well, 131 00:07:20,309 --> 00:07:22,389 Speaker 1: why don't you sit and write a script for a minute, 132 00:07:23,149 --> 00:07:26,149 Speaker 1: Why don't you write a good script because Valentine's Day 133 00:07:26,869 --> 00:07:28,989 Speaker 1: it doesn't work. They got a bot to do it. 134 00:07:29,029 --> 00:07:31,109 Speaker 1: They got a bot to do it, and it showed tonight. 135 00:07:31,149 --> 00:07:33,109 Speaker 1: The chef is featuring a dish that he likes to 136 00:07:33,149 --> 00:07:37,109 Speaker 1: call the lime Stinking Pig. Also a note, Jennifer Ghana 137 00:07:37,429 --> 00:07:40,269 Speaker 1: was married to Ben Affleck between two thousand and five 138 00:07:40,389 --> 00:07:44,109 Speaker 1: and twenty eighteen, long time, and they have three kids together. 139 00:07:44,829 --> 00:07:48,149 Speaker 1: And there are currently rumors you would know that Ben 140 00:07:48,189 --> 00:07:50,829 Speaker 1: Affleck and j Lo are on the rocks. Yeah, I 141 00:07:50,829 --> 00:07:54,789 Speaker 1: believe it. And yeah, the theory is that Jennifer Ghana 142 00:07:55,309 --> 00:07:59,989 Speaker 1: has been speaking to Jennifer Lopez and like helping her 143 00:08:00,069 --> 00:08:04,189 Speaker 1: through this and is also speaking to Ben and encouraging 144 00:08:04,509 --> 00:08:10,109 Speaker 1: Ben to stay with Jen because Jen, she's such an 145 00:08:10,109 --> 00:08:13,269 Speaker 1: marriage counselor, is very good for Ben. Jenny is good 146 00:08:13,269 --> 00:08:16,949 Speaker 1: for Ben and she supported him through his addictions. Jen 147 00:08:17,109 --> 00:08:20,989 Speaker 1: lo Pez is good. Oh I think Jenna good for 148 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:23,869 Speaker 1: Ben too. Yeah. She says Ben, you need Jen, and 149 00:08:23,909 --> 00:08:27,829 Speaker 1: he says, which Jen. She says Jen you're currently married to, 150 00:08:28,509 --> 00:08:31,509 Speaker 1: just for logistical purposes, the one you're that that gen. 151 00:08:31,949 --> 00:08:37,269 Speaker 1: Also for context. She does a lot of gardening on tiktop. Hello, squash, 152 00:08:37,549 --> 00:08:39,749 Speaker 1: there is not your dad. I've been waiting for the 153 00:08:39,829 --> 00:08:44,309 Speaker 1: sunflower seeds to be ready. Cash. She's popping up very hosh. 154 00:08:44,429 --> 00:08:46,909 Speaker 1: Couldn't be less like j Loo. And I don't mean 155 00:08:46,949 --> 00:08:48,989 Speaker 1: that as a slide, No, I just mean that as 156 00:08:49,469 --> 00:08:51,829 Speaker 1: she's in a different place, whereas j Loo is like, 157 00:08:52,149 --> 00:08:56,789 Speaker 1: this is me now on the met Gala garpet. Yeah, 158 00:08:56,829 --> 00:09:01,589 Speaker 1: where's Ben, Jen? Where's my Ben? You're Ben? He was 159 00:09:01,629 --> 00:09:04,909 Speaker 1: my Ben. I'm a different Gen. Ben, go back to Jen? 160 00:09:05,189 --> 00:09:10,789 Speaker 1: Which Gen, et cetera? Yeah, it is. My structure for 161 00:09:10,829 --> 00:09:14,149 Speaker 1: today is as follows an awkward call out, a late 162 00:09:14,229 --> 00:09:18,109 Speaker 1: night interview, an uncomfortable question. I love the ambiguity of 163 00:09:18,149 --> 00:09:22,709 Speaker 1: all somebody and suddenly thirty okay good an awkward call out. 164 00:09:23,109 --> 00:09:26,669 Speaker 1: It's two thousand and three. Jennifer Ganna is starring in Alias, 165 00:09:26,869 --> 00:09:31,509 Speaker 1: and she's very, very famous. Jesse, did you ever watch Alias? 166 00:09:31,989 --> 00:09:35,109 Speaker 1: I didn't, but there were girls at school who really 167 00:09:35,189 --> 00:09:36,469 Speaker 1: liked it, and I kind of put it in the 168 00:09:36,589 --> 00:09:40,549 Speaker 1: Buffy camp. M you were an Alias personal? You were 169 00:09:40,589 --> 00:09:43,629 Speaker 1: an Alias person? Was she a spy? Yes? It sounds 170 00:09:43,669 --> 00:09:46,349 Speaker 1: like I would have liked that. I know, I know, 171 00:09:46,469 --> 00:09:47,869 Speaker 1: I feel like do I feel like she was a 172 00:09:47,869 --> 00:09:50,469 Speaker 1: magic spye? I feel like there was something in it 173 00:09:50,509 --> 00:09:54,269 Speaker 1: that I just couldn't fully get around. Yeah, I watched it. No, 174 00:09:54,309 --> 00:09:57,349 Speaker 1: I never watched it, but I never watched Buffy either. No. 175 00:09:57,829 --> 00:10:01,069 Speaker 1: So she was doing the rounds because as well as 176 00:10:01,109 --> 00:10:05,309 Speaker 1: promoting Alias, she was promoting her new movie Daredevil, which 177 00:10:05,349 --> 00:10:08,229 Speaker 1: Ben Affleck was also in, and so she was on 178 00:10:08,429 --> 00:10:12,549 Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien. He She asked her if during Alias she 179 00:10:12,749 --> 00:10:15,709 Speaker 1: used any spy skills she learnt from the show in 180 00:10:15,789 --> 00:10:19,069 Speaker 1: real life, and she tells a story about how they 181 00:10:19,189 --> 00:10:22,909 Speaker 1: kept the show's twists from her, like the scripts ahead 182 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:24,949 Speaker 1: of time. They don't want you to know. Writer's Room 183 00:10:24,989 --> 00:10:28,549 Speaker 1: and it's completely closed off, particularly to actors, particularly to me. 184 00:10:28,829 --> 00:10:30,789 Speaker 1: So she went into the writer's room and read all 185 00:10:30,829 --> 00:10:33,069 Speaker 1: the notes about what was to come, and she used 186 00:10:33,109 --> 00:10:34,949 Speaker 1: spy skills to get into the writer's room. That was 187 00:10:34,989 --> 00:10:38,189 Speaker 1: the story. Christ Sorry. But as she's telling the story, 188 00:10:38,349 --> 00:10:39,669 Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien says. 189 00:10:39,509 --> 00:10:41,109 Speaker 4: Well, there's a time when you snuck into the room. 190 00:10:41,189 --> 00:10:43,589 Speaker 1: And she says, snuck isn't a word, Conan, and you 191 00:10:43,629 --> 00:10:46,669 Speaker 1: went to Harvard and you should know that that's funny. The 192 00:10:46,749 --> 00:10:50,909 Speaker 1: audience cheers, collaps. She finishes the story. Then, after the 193 00:10:50,909 --> 00:10:54,749 Speaker 1: ad break, ConA O'Brien returns holding a dictionary. He points 194 00:10:54,749 --> 00:10:57,509 Speaker 1: out that snuck is a word. It is the past 195 00:10:57,549 --> 00:11:02,389 Speaker 1: tense of sneak. According to Miriam Webster, the original past 196 00:11:02,469 --> 00:11:06,109 Speaker 1: tense of sneak was sneaked, following the pattern of other 197 00:11:06,149 --> 00:11:09,829 Speaker 1: regular verbs. However, snuck began to be used as an 198 00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:12,949 Speaker 1: altar her native past tense form in the eighteen hundreds 199 00:11:13,229 --> 00:11:16,589 Speaker 1: and is now very common. Would you say snuck or sneaked, 200 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:19,189 Speaker 1: I'd say snuck. I'd say snuck, But I will say 201 00:11:19,829 --> 00:11:22,949 Speaker 1: it's very a white man, I think it's she corrected 202 00:11:23,029 --> 00:11:24,989 Speaker 1: him in the first place. Yeah, but where'd you get 203 00:11:25,029 --> 00:11:27,669 Speaker 1: a dictionary? Like apparently one of the writers run it 204 00:11:27,709 --> 00:11:30,989 Speaker 1: down during the ad break. He does it very well 205 00:11:31,389 --> 00:11:34,589 Speaker 1: because he points it out. She does a bit of 206 00:11:34,589 --> 00:11:36,709 Speaker 1: like an awkward face and then he does like a 207 00:11:36,909 --> 00:11:41,509 Speaker 1: cackle like villain laugh, knuck, pass and pass part of sneak. 208 00:11:46,429 --> 00:11:48,589 Speaker 1: It's not mean to her the way he does it. 209 00:11:48,589 --> 00:11:52,349 Speaker 1: It's like expert, Oh how he does it? Okay, alright, alright, 210 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:58,309 Speaker 1: So she looks awkward, like purposely performatively awkward. And this 211 00:11:58,429 --> 00:12:02,269 Speaker 1: clip has done the rounds on TikTok and YouTube, and 212 00:12:02,429 --> 00:12:05,549 Speaker 1: a lot of people comment saying she didn't even apologize. 213 00:12:05,589 --> 00:12:08,229 Speaker 1: She didn't even admit she was wrong, and it's like, 214 00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:10,589 Speaker 1: I think it wasn't meant to be funny. It's a show. 215 00:12:11,189 --> 00:12:16,229 Speaker 1: She's acting awkward, it's humor. I will say, I don't 216 00:12:16,349 --> 00:12:19,429 Speaker 1: enjoy being corrected on my past tense in a social setting. 217 00:12:19,509 --> 00:12:21,989 Speaker 1: I don't. And that's what people are saying. They're like, 218 00:12:22,069 --> 00:12:25,389 Speaker 1: she tried to correct him and she was wrong. I mean, 219 00:12:25,429 --> 00:12:27,669 Speaker 1: it was obviously a public interview and she was quite 220 00:12:27,709 --> 00:12:29,309 Speaker 1: funny bring up a Harvard thing. But like I have 221 00:12:29,429 --> 00:12:33,909 Speaker 1: been in conversations and people like it's Luca and I oh, 222 00:12:33,949 --> 00:12:37,989 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, me and Luke went to the zoo. Yeah, yeah, 223 00:12:38,029 --> 00:12:40,709 Speaker 1: you know what, I am my English teacher. I don't 224 00:12:40,789 --> 00:12:43,749 Speaker 1: like it exactly. So yeah, people do get riled up 225 00:12:43,749 --> 00:12:47,109 Speaker 1: about that, think that she's a bit of a princess. 226 00:12:47,389 --> 00:12:50,509 Speaker 1: But I say it's an interesting little back and forth 227 00:12:50,589 --> 00:12:54,509 Speaker 1: and it's just a silly interview. Moving on a late 228 00:12:54,589 --> 00:13:00,909 Speaker 1: night interview. During the same interview, she told a story 229 00:13:01,149 --> 00:13:04,029 Speaker 1: that has gone viral for all the wrong reasons. Speaking 230 00:13:04,029 --> 00:13:07,469 Speaker 1: about Daredevil, she shared an anecdote about how her co 231 00:13:07,589 --> 00:13:11,109 Speaker 1: star Colin Farrell got a bit too aggressive in a 232 00:13:11,149 --> 00:13:13,389 Speaker 1: scene where they were supposed to be kissing and she 233 00:13:13,589 --> 00:13:16,029 Speaker 1: ended up with a swollen lip. The next day, he 234 00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:18,589 Speaker 1: was biting her lip, and she goes on to tell 235 00:13:18,589 --> 00:13:21,469 Speaker 1: this whole story. Was she saying it lightheartedly? Yes, okay. 236 00:13:21,749 --> 00:13:24,669 Speaker 1: She then joked that by the end of shooting the scene, 237 00:13:24,669 --> 00:13:26,829 Speaker 1: Pharrell was treating her lip like a meal and pulling 238 00:13:26,869 --> 00:13:28,789 Speaker 1: it out and putting ketchup on it like a joke 239 00:13:28,829 --> 00:13:30,749 Speaker 1: about how much he was just eating her bottom lip. 240 00:13:31,709 --> 00:13:34,069 Speaker 1: She says that she woke up the next morning and 241 00:13:34,109 --> 00:13:36,989 Speaker 1: she walks into the living room and her husband at 242 00:13:36,989 --> 00:13:39,869 Speaker 1: the time Scott, who she left and ended up with 243 00:13:39,909 --> 00:13:44,829 Speaker 1: Ben Affleck was sitting there in shock, and she says 244 00:13:45,189 --> 00:13:48,349 Speaker 1: that her lip looked like one of those African women 245 00:13:48,469 --> 00:13:51,469 Speaker 1: with a plate in their mouths. Oh no, okay. This 246 00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:54,669 Speaker 1: was two thousand and three, all right, all right, two 247 00:13:54,709 --> 00:13:56,909 Speaker 1: thousand and three, And what has happened is people have 248 00:13:57,589 --> 00:14:01,949 Speaker 1: taken this interview, resurfaced it, put it everywhere. You wouldn't 249 00:14:01,949 --> 00:14:04,429 Speaker 1: say it now, You wouldn't say it now. I understand 250 00:14:04,469 --> 00:14:07,669 Speaker 1: why it's offensive, because it's saying like, my injury and 251 00:14:07,749 --> 00:14:11,989 Speaker 1: me when I've hurt myself is the same as cultural practice. Yeah, yeah, 252 00:14:12,029 --> 00:14:14,909 Speaker 1: it's quite degrading to the cultural practice. I totally get that. 253 00:14:15,229 --> 00:14:18,829 Speaker 1: But I also see the context and also knowing how 254 00:14:18,869 --> 00:14:21,549 Speaker 1: those interviews are conducted, like that story would have been 255 00:14:21,589 --> 00:14:23,989 Speaker 1: designed by a PR team and she's just kind of 256 00:14:24,429 --> 00:14:26,829 Speaker 1: delivering on it, and it looks a lot worse being 257 00:14:26,829 --> 00:14:29,149 Speaker 1: thrust into our context than it might have. Do you 258 00:14:29,229 --> 00:14:30,829 Speaker 1: know at the time, if it got any backlash? 259 00:14:31,229 --> 00:14:31,349 Speaker 3: No? 260 00:14:31,749 --> 00:14:34,109 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no backlash in two thousand and three. 261 00:14:34,149 --> 00:14:37,189 Speaker 1: And I think that's also because people weren't online, people 262 00:14:37,229 --> 00:14:40,309 Speaker 1: just watching things on a late night show, seeing a comment, 263 00:14:40,589 --> 00:14:43,789 Speaker 1: maybe thinking e and then're moving on. Yeah, so it 264 00:14:43,949 --> 00:14:49,069 Speaker 1: kind of got resurfaced and made into a very intentional 265 00:14:49,349 --> 00:14:54,829 Speaker 1: significant thing and has then been combined with a few 266 00:14:54,829 --> 00:14:57,829 Speaker 1: other things that she said, Okay, moving on to an 267 00:14:57,869 --> 00:15:02,669 Speaker 1: uncomfortable question. The other problematic moment that has been resurfaced 268 00:15:02,909 --> 00:15:07,109 Speaker 1: comes from a twenty seventeen chat show. During an episode 269 00:15:07,149 --> 00:15:11,389 Speaker 1: of comedian Chelsea Handler's Netflix talk show Helsey, there are 270 00:15:11,429 --> 00:15:13,989 Speaker 1: a bunch of celebrities sitting around at a dinner party, 271 00:15:14,229 --> 00:15:17,909 Speaker 1: and Handler says, let's talk about our families first, where 272 00:15:17,949 --> 00:15:21,629 Speaker 1: we came from, where our parents came from. Actor Regina King, 273 00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:24,429 Speaker 1: who is black, tells the group that she's from LA 274 00:15:24,629 --> 00:15:27,229 Speaker 1: and she starts talking about how so many people live there. Oh, 275 00:15:27,269 --> 00:15:29,509 Speaker 1: I think I've seen this, yes, but not that many 276 00:15:29,509 --> 00:15:31,349 Speaker 1: people actually grew up in LA. 277 00:15:31,869 --> 00:15:34,349 Speaker 3: And she's saying, one of the few people that are 278 00:15:34,349 --> 00:15:36,829 Speaker 3: born and bred in LA. So that's I think, a 279 00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:38,429 Speaker 3: very cool thing and I kind of wear it on 280 00:15:38,429 --> 00:15:41,789 Speaker 3: my chest very proudly because so many people say, oh, 281 00:15:41,989 --> 00:15:43,429 Speaker 3: LA is in LA? Is it? 282 00:15:43,789 --> 00:15:46,669 Speaker 1: And she talks about how it's interesting being the only 283 00:15:46,709 --> 00:15:49,429 Speaker 1: person who's able to kind of truly say what is 284 00:15:49,469 --> 00:15:52,589 Speaker 1: and isn't La because she had her childhood. There sitting 285 00:15:52,589 --> 00:15:55,309 Speaker 1: across the table from her, Ghana asks, but do you 286 00:15:55,349 --> 00:15:57,109 Speaker 1: know where your ancestors are from? 287 00:15:57,189 --> 00:16:00,469 Speaker 4: King says, oh, well, yeah, we're part of the triangle 288 00:16:00,549 --> 00:16:05,749 Speaker 4: slavery from sier early on, Liberia and Synegal, but my 289 00:16:05,789 --> 00:16:08,269 Speaker 4: parents are both from the South met each other here. 290 00:16:08,629 --> 00:16:12,949 Speaker 1: People got really angry about this, and it was originally 291 00:16:12,989 --> 00:16:16,989 Speaker 1: tweeted with the caption, oh I see why Ben left 292 00:16:17,029 --> 00:16:21,949 Speaker 1: her ass about Jennifer Ganner. Okay, as though Ben Affleck 293 00:16:22,029 --> 00:16:26,349 Speaker 1: who got married in a plantation, it was just so 294 00:16:26,509 --> 00:16:30,229 Speaker 1: much fun. Was the best? Is the gold standard when 295 00:16:30,229 --> 00:16:33,189 Speaker 1: it comes to conversations about race. Yeah, there's been lots 296 00:16:33,189 --> 00:16:37,349 Speaker 1: of analysis about her facial expression and her ignorance in 297 00:16:37,429 --> 00:16:42,349 Speaker 1: this really really short clip, and I completely appreciate that 298 00:16:42,389 --> 00:16:45,949 Speaker 1: it may have been an insensitive or inappropriate question, but 299 00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:49,349 Speaker 1: we don't have all the context. It's edited when not 300 00:16:49,429 --> 00:16:52,709 Speaker 1: seeing a natural conversation. Something I want to point out 301 00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:57,589 Speaker 1: is that Regina King hasn't said anything. Regina King hasn't 302 00:16:57,589 --> 00:17:00,549 Speaker 1: come out I said. Sometimes you can use these clips, though, 303 00:17:00,549 --> 00:17:02,389 Speaker 1: if you're a person of color, you might be using 304 00:17:02,429 --> 00:17:08,269 Speaker 1: this clip to illustrate how uncomfortable that question is and 305 00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:11,509 Speaker 1: how it is asked more of some people than of others, 306 00:17:11,709 --> 00:17:14,429 Speaker 1: because if Jennifer Garanna, for example, had said I'm from 307 00:17:14,589 --> 00:17:17,389 Speaker 1: New York or I'm from New Jersey or whatever, no 308 00:17:17,469 --> 00:17:20,349 Speaker 1: one at the table would have said, yeah, but where 309 00:17:20,349 --> 00:17:22,869 Speaker 1: are your ancestors from? Why? Because she's white, and because 310 00:17:23,109 --> 00:17:28,309 Speaker 1: you associate whiteness with being American, which is inherently racist. Like, 311 00:17:28,349 --> 00:17:32,029 Speaker 1: I do understand the commentary, and I don't think that 312 00:17:32,109 --> 00:17:36,349 Speaker 1: Jennifer Ganner's subjectivity as a white woman in that context 313 00:17:36,669 --> 00:17:39,269 Speaker 1: makes it look good. I'm sure that she would regret 314 00:17:39,389 --> 00:17:41,149 Speaker 1: the way that came across. I think it's an interesting 315 00:17:41,189 --> 00:17:45,829 Speaker 1: example because it really may have been that it was inappropriate. Ye, 316 00:17:45,989 --> 00:17:49,469 Speaker 1: But the context is interesting because some people pointed out 317 00:17:49,509 --> 00:17:51,749 Speaker 1: that her question made a lot more sense in the 318 00:17:51,789 --> 00:17:56,229 Speaker 1: overall context of the show, which was titled My American Experience, 319 00:17:56,509 --> 00:18:00,709 Speaker 1: where the guests were encouraged to discuss their roots, patriotism, religion, 320 00:18:00,829 --> 00:18:03,829 Speaker 1: and modern America's complexities, and they were asked how their 321 00:18:03,909 --> 00:18:06,389 Speaker 1: parents got to America. So she felt like she had 322 00:18:06,389 --> 00:18:08,229 Speaker 1: a license yeah to ask that. 323 00:18:08,429 --> 00:18:08,549 Speaker 3: Ye. 324 00:18:08,629 --> 00:18:10,709 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting and it was kind of part of 325 00:18:10,709 --> 00:18:14,509 Speaker 1: the broader conversation. Then again, I do think sometimes it's 326 00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:17,709 Speaker 1: okay to use an example of something and analyze it 327 00:18:17,869 --> 00:18:18,989 Speaker 1: to a straighter point. 328 00:18:19,149 --> 00:18:19,349 Speaker 3: Yeah. 329 00:18:19,429 --> 00:18:20,949 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's what a lot of people 330 00:18:20,949 --> 00:18:23,429 Speaker 1: were doing, saying, this is my experience. People ask me 331 00:18:23,469 --> 00:18:26,269 Speaker 1: this question and it's friggin inappropriate, and you wouldn't ask 332 00:18:26,349 --> 00:18:28,829 Speaker 1: it the other way around. So I think that's also fair. 333 00:18:29,109 --> 00:18:32,349 Speaker 1: I also think it's worth acknowledging that the question doesn't 334 00:18:32,389 --> 00:18:35,829 Speaker 1: mean the same thing to everyone. Yeah, so people asking 335 00:18:35,869 --> 00:18:39,829 Speaker 1: me where are your parents from? Where are your ancestors from? 336 00:18:40,149 --> 00:18:43,309 Speaker 1: Doesn't have the kind of emotional salience that may for 337 00:18:43,349 --> 00:18:56,429 Speaker 1: somebody else. Jesse Suddenly thirty like your shoes, Thanks? I 338 00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:59,349 Speaker 1: like your dress because they've got these incredible boobs to 339 00:18:59,389 --> 00:19:03,149 Speaker 1: fill it out. Suddenly thirty, for reasons unknown, is called 340 00:19:03,189 --> 00:19:07,149 Speaker 1: thirteen going on thirty in the US. Actually, it made 341 00:19:07,189 --> 00:19:10,549 Speaker 1: me slightly intrigued, so I googled it. The movie is 342 00:19:10,629 --> 00:19:14,669 Speaker 1: called thirteen going on thirty in almost every place. Why 343 00:19:14,669 --> 00:19:17,469 Speaker 1: did we call it suddenly thirty here? It makes it 344 00:19:17,509 --> 00:19:21,389 Speaker 1: difficult to have conversations with Americans. Yes, it's thirteen going 345 00:19:21,389 --> 00:19:24,749 Speaker 1: on thirty, I'm pretty sure everywhere except Australian Why because 346 00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:30,949 Speaker 1: distributors thought Australians wouldn't understand. Oh no, the concept slash 347 00:19:31,069 --> 00:19:34,429 Speaker 1: phrase of thirteen going on thirty. They thought we wouldn't 348 00:19:34,469 --> 00:19:34,789 Speaker 1: get that. 349 00:19:34,949 --> 00:19:39,149 Speaker 2: Australians have proven we can understand phrases. 350 00:19:38,909 --> 00:19:42,429 Speaker 1: So they were like, suddenly, thirty, I'm modified. Okay, that's 351 00:19:42,469 --> 00:19:45,389 Speaker 1: a phrase though, Yeah, thirteen going on, I mean, and 352 00:19:45,429 --> 00:19:47,989 Speaker 1: this is the thing. It's like, Oh, don't get me wrong. 353 00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:51,669 Speaker 1: I still don't fully understand the premise. Maybe it's an 354 00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:54,389 Speaker 1: Australian thing. Maybe everyone else in the world is like, oh, 355 00:19:54,429 --> 00:19:58,949 Speaker 1: it totally makes sense. I think it's unrealistic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 356 00:19:58,989 --> 00:20:01,669 Speaker 1: but it's not the title. No, It's like they think 357 00:20:01,709 --> 00:20:04,789 Speaker 1: we don't say going on, But like I listened to 358 00:20:04,869 --> 00:20:06,749 Speaker 1: the Sound of Music soundtrack a lot, and it's like, 359 00:20:06,869 --> 00:20:11,749 Speaker 1: I am sixteen going on seventeen. That's fine, I understand it. 360 00:20:12,029 --> 00:20:14,869 Speaker 1: I can read between the line it means you're sixteen 361 00:20:14,909 --> 00:20:17,189 Speaker 1: and soon you will be seventeen, whereas the title of 362 00:20:17,189 --> 00:20:19,629 Speaker 1: this movie means you're thirteen and oh my gosh, soon 363 00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:23,909 Speaker 1: you'll be thirty because of magic. Yes, now there are 364 00:20:23,989 --> 00:20:26,389 Speaker 1: other movies where this has happened as well. You know 365 00:20:26,869 --> 00:20:29,949 Speaker 1: one of our favorite films, Bad Neighbors. Yes, yes, what 366 00:20:29,989 --> 00:20:30,469 Speaker 1: are you doing. 367 00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:32,589 Speaker 2: We're throwing a Robert de Niro party. 368 00:20:33,189 --> 00:20:34,829 Speaker 1: Should be pretty fucking loud. 369 00:20:35,189 --> 00:20:37,309 Speaker 2: It's probably gonna go pretty fucking late too. 370 00:20:37,469 --> 00:20:43,989 Speaker 1: It was just called neighbors that is in American. In America, 371 00:20:44,109 --> 00:20:46,429 Speaker 1: she is confusing because I'm not going to the movies 372 00:20:46,469 --> 00:20:49,749 Speaker 1: to watch neighbors. Okay, that's on the TV. It's like, 373 00:20:50,229 --> 00:20:53,029 Speaker 1: was it bad neighbors here to avoid confusion with neighbors? 374 00:20:53,709 --> 00:20:56,869 Speaker 1: Or was it bad neighbors here because they're like Australians 375 00:20:56,869 --> 00:21:00,189 Speaker 1: won't understand they're bad. Yeah, yeah, I'll think this is 376 00:21:00,229 --> 00:21:03,949 Speaker 1: just normal neighbors. He They've got to really really make 377 00:21:04,029 --> 00:21:06,789 Speaker 1: things clear for them. These neighbors are bad because they're 378 00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:09,549 Speaker 1: disruptive and they're partying. Or is in Australia that's just 379 00:21:09,589 --> 00:21:12,789 Speaker 1: a neighbor. You don't know me, Yeah, you don't know 380 00:21:12,869 --> 00:21:15,789 Speaker 1: my neighbors. Anyway. It's very very odd and it's quite 381 00:21:15,789 --> 00:21:19,589 Speaker 1: embarrassing that Australia needed a different title. AnyWho, that's not 382 00:21:19,629 --> 00:21:22,509 Speaker 1: why we're here. We're here because Jennifer Gannah stars in it. 383 00:21:22,509 --> 00:21:25,229 Speaker 1: It's arguably her most famous role and there's a lot 384 00:21:25,229 --> 00:21:26,869 Speaker 1: of feelings about I didn't like that scene where she 385 00:21:26,869 --> 00:21:29,429 Speaker 1: did the dance I didn't like it. It made me uncomfortable. Well, 386 00:21:29,469 --> 00:21:32,349 Speaker 1: I'll get to that. Mark Ruffalo's in it. He's hot, man, 387 00:21:32,389 --> 00:21:35,789 Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo, more like Mark Buffalo. Sometimes you forget that 388 00:21:35,829 --> 00:21:39,389 Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo's in it and he's very sexy. For those 389 00:21:39,429 --> 00:21:42,909 Speaker 1: who haven't seen it, Suddenly thirty, it's a romantic comedy 390 00:21:43,149 --> 00:21:45,909 Speaker 1: and Mark Ruffalo plays love interest Matty. Wh's the thing 391 00:21:46,029 --> 00:21:48,709 Speaker 1: is everyone's seen it? Find me a person hasn't seen it. 392 00:21:48,709 --> 00:21:52,029 Speaker 1: But sometimes people forget the details, all right. A nerdy 393 00:21:52,109 --> 00:21:55,149 Speaker 1: thirteen year old named Jenna desperately wants to be popular, 394 00:21:55,709 --> 00:21:57,349 Speaker 1: so she gets the popular group to come to her 395 00:21:57,389 --> 00:22:00,989 Speaker 1: thirteenth birthday by doing their homework. Her best friend and 396 00:22:01,109 --> 00:22:04,429 Speaker 1: extraor neighbor, Matty, has made a doll house for her 397 00:22:04,629 --> 00:22:07,629 Speaker 1: with his bare hands, and he sprinkles the roof with 398 00:22:07,789 --> 00:22:11,829 Speaker 1: magic wishing dust. I think you're a little bit old 399 00:22:11,869 --> 00:22:14,229 Speaker 1: for a doll's house at thirteen. I think you are two. 400 00:22:14,509 --> 00:22:16,669 Speaker 1: And I think that for the audience who was watching this, 401 00:22:17,269 --> 00:22:19,109 Speaker 1: Like I was a teenager when I watched it, and 402 00:22:19,189 --> 00:22:21,309 Speaker 1: I was like, look, two years ago I believed in magic. 403 00:22:21,389 --> 00:22:25,749 Speaker 1: Does that as moved on? I've moved on. I was, 404 00:22:25,829 --> 00:22:28,349 Speaker 1: you know, still ten believing that my dolls talked to 405 00:22:28,349 --> 00:22:30,349 Speaker 1: each other when I left the room, Like, absolutely, I'll 406 00:22:30,389 --> 00:22:34,949 Speaker 1: play that game as an adolescent. It's been quite beaten 407 00:22:34,989 --> 00:22:37,749 Speaker 1: out of me. And it's like, at thirteen, clearly this 408 00:22:37,789 --> 00:22:39,789 Speaker 1: girl is feeling some things in her pants because she 409 00:22:39,789 --> 00:22:41,829 Speaker 1: wants to hook up with this hot guy. And then 410 00:22:41,869 --> 00:22:44,749 Speaker 1: you've got this boy next door giving you a doll's house, 411 00:22:44,869 --> 00:22:46,949 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, that's a big social obligation to 412 00:22:47,349 --> 00:22:50,549 Speaker 1: act really amazed by your doll's house when really, I 413 00:22:50,589 --> 00:22:52,629 Speaker 1: think you spent a lot of time on that. I 414 00:22:52,629 --> 00:22:55,469 Speaker 1: actually think that's way too full on. It's way too 415 00:22:55,469 --> 00:22:57,989 Speaker 1: full on. It's I don't care about dolls anymore. You 416 00:22:57,989 --> 00:23:00,869 Speaker 1: don't know me. I didn't want that gift. There's something 417 00:23:00,949 --> 00:23:03,709 Speaker 1: very past aggressive about going over the top with a gift. Yeah. 418 00:23:03,989 --> 00:23:06,829 Speaker 1: The popular girls arrive with a group of boys, including 419 00:23:06,949 --> 00:23:10,709 Speaker 1: Jenna's crush Chris, and trick Jenna into believe he's going 420 00:23:10,749 --> 00:23:13,989 Speaker 1: to kiss her in a closet while they leave with 421 00:23:14,069 --> 00:23:15,989 Speaker 1: the completely home work. 422 00:23:16,509 --> 00:23:17,029 Speaker 4: That's right. 423 00:23:17,749 --> 00:23:22,109 Speaker 1: When she discovers what's happened, she gets upset and she says. 424 00:23:22,029 --> 00:23:25,749 Speaker 4: I want to be thirty, thirty and flirty and thriving. 425 00:23:26,389 --> 00:23:29,269 Speaker 1: Would you ever have used those words when you're thirteen? 426 00:23:29,389 --> 00:23:33,229 Speaker 1: I just want to be thirty, flirty and thriving. I've 427 00:23:33,269 --> 00:23:38,709 Speaker 1: been used in many an Instagram all thirtieth birthdays. I 428 00:23:38,749 --> 00:23:42,829 Speaker 1: think at thirteen, I thought thirty was geriatric. Oh yes, 429 00:23:42,949 --> 00:23:46,429 Speaker 1: thirty wasn't fun. Thirty no, no, no no. I won't have 430 00:23:46,469 --> 00:23:49,269 Speaker 1: two working knays. I want how to hit replacement. I'll 431 00:23:49,309 --> 00:23:53,389 Speaker 1: be boring, ugly, but I will have carcies and unlimited 432 00:23:53,389 --> 00:23:58,709 Speaker 1: access to McDonald's, which are true. I get McDonald's today. 433 00:23:58,709 --> 00:24:03,429 Speaker 1: I want to see personally. I never forget. I never 434 00:24:03,709 --> 00:24:05,469 Speaker 1: Sometimes I forget, and then I think you're an adult. 435 00:24:05,469 --> 00:24:06,989 Speaker 1: You can get McDonald's a few times a day. I 436 00:24:06,989 --> 00:24:08,869 Speaker 1: think I can go buy a packet of Lolly's, and 437 00:24:08,909 --> 00:24:11,309 Speaker 1: I do, and I et them, and I think too many. 438 00:24:11,589 --> 00:24:13,869 Speaker 1: That's why I feel sick. That's me, my mum. Yeah. 439 00:24:14,629 --> 00:24:18,509 Speaker 1: Now the magic wishing dust falls on her. The following morning, 440 00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:21,709 Speaker 1: she wakes up in an amazing New York apartment, and 441 00:24:21,789 --> 00:24:25,509 Speaker 1: she's thirty, thirty and thriving. She's dating a man she 442 00:24:25,549 --> 00:24:29,029 Speaker 1: doesn't recognize and has no memory of the last seventeen years. 443 00:24:29,349 --> 00:24:31,709 Speaker 1: It turns out she's now best friends with the popular 444 00:24:31,749 --> 00:24:34,149 Speaker 1: girl who is mean to her on her thirteenth birthday, 445 00:24:34,269 --> 00:24:38,269 Speaker 1: and they're both editors at Poise magazine. Oh, Jesse, here 446 00:24:38,309 --> 00:24:41,949 Speaker 1: are some of the ways people find suddenly thirty problematic. 447 00:24:42,029 --> 00:24:44,189 Speaker 1: Now I want to laugh about this, but I also 448 00:24:44,189 --> 00:24:47,149 Speaker 1: want to point out I have massively contributed to this 449 00:24:47,229 --> 00:24:52,189 Speaker 1: culture of over things and tearing them apart. It's fun, 450 00:24:52,389 --> 00:24:55,509 Speaker 1: it's fun, but it is also silly. This is what 451 00:24:55,549 --> 00:24:59,589 Speaker 1: the internet has said. Why didn't anyone express serious concern 452 00:24:59,709 --> 00:25:02,629 Speaker 1: when Jenna just woke up one day and didn't remember 453 00:25:02,709 --> 00:25:05,789 Speaker 1: anything from the age of thirteen. Should she have gone 454 00:25:05,829 --> 00:25:08,069 Speaker 1: to hospital? I would have taken you to hospital if 455 00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:11,309 Speaker 1: I acted like a thirteen year old didn't recognize we've 456 00:25:11,349 --> 00:25:15,789 Speaker 1: both had concussions relatively recently recently, and if those symptoms 457 00:25:15,869 --> 00:25:18,829 Speaker 1: had started bubbling to the surface, I'd say, yeah, it's 458 00:25:18,829 --> 00:25:21,229 Speaker 1: time for brain scam. Yeah, she wakes up the morning 459 00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:31,069 Speaker 1: and she screams, she shrieks at her partner. She generally 460 00:25:31,429 --> 00:25:33,749 Speaker 1: like a bit of an idiot, So her friends are like, oh, 461 00:25:33,789 --> 00:25:37,029 Speaker 1: this is just general normal, normal jenner bag. Yeah, she 462 00:25:37,229 --> 00:25:40,069 Speaker 1: hangs out with other thirteen year olds because she's a 463 00:25:40,109 --> 00:25:43,069 Speaker 1: thirteen year old in her soul, But do you think 464 00:25:43,189 --> 00:25:46,389 Speaker 1: grown ups would have thought that was weird? Imagine So 465 00:25:46,429 --> 00:25:47,949 Speaker 1: I turn up to work today and I'm like, hey, 466 00:25:48,109 --> 00:25:52,349 Speaker 1: I don't remember anything post thirteen. Yeah. Also, here's my friend, 467 00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:55,229 Speaker 1: she's thirteen. Yeah, I want to play in a doll's house. 468 00:25:55,349 --> 00:25:58,349 Speaker 1: We're having a sleepover. Yeah. I don't want you sleeping 469 00:25:58,389 --> 00:26:01,429 Speaker 1: in the Yeah, my daughters. Yeah. Yeah. So she has 470 00:26:01,469 --> 00:26:03,629 Speaker 1: a sleepover with a thirteen year old who lives in 471 00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:06,349 Speaker 1: her building, and all her friends and people have said, 472 00:26:07,069 --> 00:26:11,269 Speaker 1: should we be normalized? Thirty year old having a sleep 473 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:12,989 Speaker 1: over with thirteen year olds? And to that I say, 474 00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:15,189 Speaker 1: I don't know if we are normalized. If it's just 475 00:26:15,229 --> 00:26:18,989 Speaker 1: a mover, This is the point before I go any 476 00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:21,869 Speaker 1: further that I will point out it is simply just 477 00:26:21,949 --> 00:26:25,229 Speaker 1: a movement, and it is made up for purposes of 478 00:26:25,389 --> 00:26:29,309 Speaker 1: fun and for laughing, because the other criticism is that 479 00:26:29,549 --> 00:26:34,429 Speaker 1: it's creepy that Mark Ruffalo's character kisses her when he 480 00:26:34,709 --> 00:26:39,789 Speaker 1: knows she's really thirteen in her mind, Hey you get 481 00:26:39,869 --> 00:26:40,229 Speaker 1: home here. 482 00:26:42,869 --> 00:26:43,629 Speaker 2: It's never quick. 483 00:26:43,629 --> 00:26:44,709 Speaker 3: Got that reaction. 484 00:26:44,589 --> 00:26:49,229 Speaker 1: Before, ah, And it's like, hm, yes, predatory, But should 485 00:26:49,229 --> 00:26:51,229 Speaker 1: we get hung up on it being creepy in that 486 00:26:51,309 --> 00:26:54,989 Speaker 1: it's a scenario that doesn't really have any parallel to 487 00:26:55,109 --> 00:27:00,189 Speaker 1: real life in that it involves magic. What do you think? 488 00:27:00,269 --> 00:27:02,509 Speaker 1: Do you think it's creepy? I hear what they're saying, 489 00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:05,749 Speaker 1: because you know, we are familiar with courtrooms. And if 490 00:27:05,789 --> 00:27:09,989 Speaker 1: there's a situation where someone says I'm a subject to magic, dust, 491 00:27:11,109 --> 00:27:13,549 Speaker 1: I went from thirteen to thirty, but I wasn't mentally thirty. 492 00:27:13,589 --> 00:27:17,509 Speaker 1: I was mentally thirteen because of aforementioned mathematic Dust. Then 493 00:27:17,549 --> 00:27:19,029 Speaker 1: I think you've got to know how to prosecute it. 494 00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:21,869 Speaker 1: So we need to have these ethical conversations because where 495 00:27:21,909 --> 00:27:24,029 Speaker 1: do we land in her body? Yes, she is thirty, 496 00:27:24,509 --> 00:27:26,469 Speaker 1: but in her mind. I think it's a fun chat. 497 00:27:26,589 --> 00:27:30,149 Speaker 1: It's an ethical conundrum Jesse. As you touched on before, 498 00:27:30,629 --> 00:27:35,389 Speaker 1: when you think about the dancers that everyone knows just Thriller, 499 00:27:37,549 --> 00:27:41,669 Speaker 1: Just Thriller, come to mine? Yeah, you know every move 500 00:27:41,709 --> 00:27:45,829 Speaker 1: to Thriller. Oh okay, if I was to I'm going 501 00:27:45,869 --> 00:27:47,869 Speaker 1: to do at the Nutbush, you'll probably be mine. But 502 00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:50,109 Speaker 1: I think the Nutbush is only an Australian thing. But 503 00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:52,949 Speaker 1: they should have adjusted it for Australian audiences and just 504 00:27:52,989 --> 00:28:01,469 Speaker 1: done the nut hood, nutfoot, all thea. That's it, Jesse. 505 00:28:01,869 --> 00:28:04,269 Speaker 1: This is a work party where she's like, h We're 506 00:28:04,269 --> 00:28:06,109 Speaker 1: gonna dance. It's really I don't know. No, I'm gonna 507 00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:10,069 Speaker 1: argue with you on this, idiot, you idiot. The whole 508 00:28:10,269 --> 00:28:12,749 Speaker 1: thing is that it was their childhood, you know how 509 00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:16,749 Speaker 1: every Yeah, but I know people of that generation and Thriller, 510 00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:20,149 Speaker 1: they still don't know what Soldier Boy. 511 00:28:21,149 --> 00:28:25,669 Speaker 2: Soldier Boy. 512 00:28:26,269 --> 00:28:31,349 Speaker 1: Okay, we need to redo it from memory? How we 513 00:28:31,429 --> 00:28:34,789 Speaker 1: need to make that song Soldier Boy. Speaking of problematic, 514 00:28:34,869 --> 00:28:38,869 Speaker 1: there was something about white women doing Soldier Boy on 515 00:28:38,909 --> 00:28:42,509 Speaker 1: stage at that high school. The probably felt we felt 516 00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:49,749 Speaker 1: that felt weird. Then I think, I think, is it 517 00:28:49,829 --> 00:28:53,749 Speaker 1: that not everybody knew Thriller? Or is it that I'm 518 00:28:53,869 --> 00:28:56,669 Speaker 1: just not that connected with the culture, because, for example, 519 00:28:57,349 --> 00:29:00,349 Speaker 1: everyone in our generation could do Soldier Boy. I can't 520 00:29:00,389 --> 00:29:03,749 Speaker 1: do Soldier Boy. I know the basic moves because my 521 00:29:03,789 --> 00:29:06,669 Speaker 1: body is going in the opposite direction plans. That's what 522 00:29:06,669 --> 00:29:10,589 Speaker 1: I'll say about. Okay, I'm doing a bit now, Okay, yes, 523 00:29:11,069 --> 00:29:12,989 Speaker 1: if there was a remake, you just do sold boys. 524 00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:16,309 Speaker 1: I have a question anybody who is the exact same 525 00:29:16,349 --> 00:29:19,909 Speaker 1: age as Jenna in that Filema, which is very close 526 00:29:19,949 --> 00:29:24,669 Speaker 1: to Jennifer Garner's age, which is about fifty. Yep, do 527 00:29:24,709 --> 00:29:27,389 Speaker 1: you know all the moves to thriller? Not just the 528 00:29:27,429 --> 00:29:31,189 Speaker 1: general vibe? Do you know it in that you could 529 00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:35,709 Speaker 1: perform it's semi professionally. Here's the other thing, though, that 530 00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:39,949 Speaker 1: person that you're asking has years in years of memories 531 00:29:39,949 --> 00:29:43,189 Speaker 1: in the way of the thriller. No, no, I know that, 532 00:29:43,269 --> 00:29:46,989 Speaker 1: But so do the people in the movie, because everyone 533 00:29:47,069 --> 00:29:50,909 Speaker 1: in the room can do I'm not questioning that, Jenna, No, 534 00:29:50,989 --> 00:29:55,669 Speaker 1: they're not. They all know it, and they're doing a thing. Okay. 535 00:29:55,749 --> 00:29:57,989 Speaker 1: I think what we should do is find a fifty 536 00:29:58,029 --> 00:30:00,509 Speaker 1: year year old like go and speak to our boss 537 00:30:00,549 --> 00:30:02,589 Speaker 1: mayor Yeah, Holly, and say can you do the thriller 538 00:30:02,829 --> 00:30:08,069 Speaker 1: the whole thing, the whole thing immediately? Yeah? Good point. Investigation. Now, 539 00:30:08,269 --> 00:30:10,269 Speaker 1: at the end of the movie, she comes up up 540 00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:14,069 Speaker 1: with an innovative idea to save the magazine. This innovative 541 00:30:14,109 --> 00:30:17,989 Speaker 1: idea is as follows. She stages a high school yearbook 542 00:30:17,989 --> 00:30:21,749 Speaker 1: photo with non famous people like my best friend's sister 543 00:30:22,269 --> 00:30:26,509 Speaker 1: and your next door neighbor. And it's like, why would 544 00:30:26,509 --> 00:30:28,749 Speaker 1: I buy a magazine with no one I know want to? 545 00:30:28,749 --> 00:30:31,309 Speaker 1: Who'll look at strangers pretending to be in high school 546 00:30:31,349 --> 00:30:33,829 Speaker 1: that are ordinary that's not a thing. It's not a 547 00:30:33,869 --> 00:30:37,549 Speaker 1: good pitch, which brings us to the worst pitch that 548 00:30:37,589 --> 00:30:41,829 Speaker 1: you and I often talk about. So with work often 549 00:30:42,029 --> 00:30:44,429 Speaker 1: like you need to come up with ideas for brands, 550 00:30:45,349 --> 00:30:49,549 Speaker 1: and we have a visceral distaste for one idea. You 551 00:30:49,589 --> 00:30:51,749 Speaker 1: see it everywhere. Every brand comes up with it. Every 552 00:30:51,749 --> 00:30:54,629 Speaker 1: brand comes up with it. They think it's original, they 553 00:30:54,629 --> 00:30:58,309 Speaker 1: think it's powerful, and even though it's worthy, no one cares. 554 00:30:58,429 --> 00:31:00,989 Speaker 1: No one. I'm so sorry, no one cares. What is it? 555 00:31:01,109 --> 00:31:06,309 Speaker 1: Every day here? Everyday heroes? Local heroes? 556 00:31:07,069 --> 00:31:07,469 Speaker 3: Heroes? 557 00:31:07,629 --> 00:31:10,989 Speaker 1: You know what local heroes make the world? What it 558 00:31:11,069 --> 00:31:15,989 Speaker 1: is so important to a community? Will they get people 559 00:31:16,069 --> 00:31:20,469 Speaker 1: to click? Unfortunately, if I said to you, I want 560 00:31:20,469 --> 00:31:22,869 Speaker 1: to tell you about a local hero, you tune out. 561 00:31:23,549 --> 00:31:27,869 Speaker 1: Sou sounds great, tell Danny, I say, well done, Yeah, 562 00:31:27,989 --> 00:31:31,109 Speaker 1: but it's just not. If the world cared more about 563 00:31:31,109 --> 00:31:33,069 Speaker 1: local heroes, I have no doubt we'd live in a 564 00:31:33,109 --> 00:31:35,029 Speaker 1: better place, Like the world would be a better place. 565 00:31:35,069 --> 00:31:36,909 Speaker 1: They just don't. The thing I'd like to point out 566 00:31:36,909 --> 00:31:39,589 Speaker 1: we have actually been in a situation writing a TV 567 00:31:39,709 --> 00:31:42,189 Speaker 1: show where part of the plot is she has a 568 00:31:42,189 --> 00:31:46,469 Speaker 1: big idea. I've never found anything harder because it's got 569 00:31:46,509 --> 00:31:47,989 Speaker 1: to be it's got to be a good idea. It's 570 00:31:47,989 --> 00:31:49,789 Speaker 1: got to make sense to everyone, and it's going to 571 00:31:49,869 --> 00:31:52,989 Speaker 1: work within the world. Yeah, and it's really hard and 572 00:31:53,069 --> 00:31:55,149 Speaker 1: you think, well, can it just be a shit idea 573 00:31:55,189 --> 00:31:56,549 Speaker 1: that we put nice music under? 574 00:31:56,669 --> 00:31:56,749 Speaker 4: No? 575 00:31:58,109 --> 00:32:01,549 Speaker 1: Can, no, No, It's got to be quite a good idea. 576 00:32:01,549 --> 00:32:03,589 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, if I had a million dollar idea, 577 00:32:03,869 --> 00:32:06,829 Speaker 1: would be giving it to you, would I'd be selling 578 00:32:06,869 --> 00:32:10,389 Speaker 1: it for one million dollars. But in this film, they 579 00:32:10,509 --> 00:32:12,309 Speaker 1: failed to come up with a good idea. They came 580 00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:15,749 Speaker 1: up with a bad idea. Beautiful music, beautiful facial reactor. 581 00:32:15,789 --> 00:32:17,229 Speaker 1: We're not convinced. Who are these women? 582 00:32:18,709 --> 00:32:24,349 Speaker 4: I want to see my best friend's big sister and. 583 00:32:25,869 --> 00:32:28,789 Speaker 1: The girls from the soccer team. Now. This is taken 584 00:32:28,829 --> 00:32:32,149 Speaker 1: from an article online that sums up the absurdity of 585 00:32:32,229 --> 00:32:34,949 Speaker 1: looking at a fictional movie and getting mad about the 586 00:32:34,949 --> 00:32:38,389 Speaker 1: ply Okay, okay. This says. At one point, Jennifer Ghana 587 00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:40,869 Speaker 1: is told that a man at a restaurant is checking 588 00:32:40,869 --> 00:32:43,469 Speaker 1: her out. Rather than going over to flirt with him, 589 00:32:43,869 --> 00:32:47,189 Speaker 1: she asks out a thirteen year old boy at the table, 590 00:32:47,349 --> 00:32:48,069 Speaker 1: I actually. 591 00:32:47,869 --> 00:32:51,029 Speaker 4: Came over here because I think you're really cute. 592 00:32:51,389 --> 00:32:55,389 Speaker 1: So do you want to go out sometimes? Yeah? Now 593 00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:57,709 Speaker 1: do you want to go to jail? It is clearly 594 00:32:57,709 --> 00:33:01,349 Speaker 1: supposed to be a joke but also extremely disturbing. But 595 00:33:01,469 --> 00:33:03,829 Speaker 1: then it also would have been very disturbing if this 596 00:33:03,989 --> 00:33:06,429 Speaker 1: child mind in an adult body had hooked up with 597 00:33:06,469 --> 00:33:08,789 Speaker 1: an adult man. I guess they're supposed to be a 598 00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:12,029 Speaker 1: loophole because these children have adult bodies. But if you 599 00:33:12,069 --> 00:33:14,509 Speaker 1: meet someone who keeps insisting they are a child and 600 00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:18,629 Speaker 1: an adult body, maybe do not unhesitatingly have sex with them. 601 00:33:18,629 --> 00:33:22,349 Speaker 1: You need to touch grass. You need to go touch grass. 602 00:33:22,349 --> 00:33:26,429 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath and look at the sun again. Again, 603 00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:29,709 Speaker 1: there is magic involved. Again, it is just a story. 604 00:33:30,229 --> 00:33:33,429 Speaker 1: It is okay, It is just fine. But I think 605 00:33:33,509 --> 00:33:36,789 Speaker 1: that scene where she's in a restaurant and they say 606 00:33:36,989 --> 00:33:38,589 Speaker 1: someone's checking you out and she goes up to the 607 00:33:38,589 --> 00:33:41,789 Speaker 1: thirteen year old boy and flirts, that's hilarious. And I 608 00:33:41,789 --> 00:33:44,789 Speaker 1: think it's actually clever because it's a gender reverseal, because 609 00:33:44,829 --> 00:33:47,349 Speaker 1: it's a woman going up to a thirteen year old 610 00:33:47,349 --> 00:33:48,669 Speaker 1: born And you know why it's funny because that would 611 00:33:48,709 --> 00:33:52,509 Speaker 1: never happen. That's why it's funny. Yeah, exactly, Okay, hold 612 00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:56,589 Speaker 1: on it has happened in very rare cases. Yes, very rare. 613 00:33:56,629 --> 00:33:58,989 Speaker 1: But I just think that we should be able to 614 00:33:59,029 --> 00:34:01,669 Speaker 1: look at that and think it's funny because it is fiction, 615 00:34:01,869 --> 00:34:07,389 Speaker 1: because of magic, very dust. Some other headlines, why thirteen 616 00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:12,229 Speaker 1: going on thirty is actually anti feminist? 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Firstly, comments aging badly and actually, 653 00:36:24,829 --> 00:36:27,349 Speaker 1: when I say aging badly, the one on the Chelsea 654 00:36:27,429 --> 00:36:30,429 Speaker 1: Handler Show was not that long ago, so maybe just 655 00:36:30,749 --> 00:36:35,309 Speaker 1: some bad comment. Yeah, they just weren't good. No. My 656 00:36:35,469 --> 00:36:38,509 Speaker 1: sentence for that is I think she needs to redo 657 00:36:39,469 --> 00:36:42,749 Speaker 1: that Conan interview. Yeah. You know when you've had a 658 00:36:42,749 --> 00:36:45,749 Speaker 1: shit day at work and you're like, I didn't nail it, 659 00:36:46,749 --> 00:36:49,229 Speaker 1: didn't nail it that day. No, I was having a 660 00:36:49,269 --> 00:36:52,069 Speaker 1: bad day. Yeah, I said things that I now regret. 661 00:36:52,709 --> 00:36:57,749 Speaker 1: Doesn't Conan do some kind of riding a car? Yeah? 662 00:36:57,869 --> 00:37:00,669 Speaker 1: Or is that Jerry? Jerry gets a coffee in a 663 00:37:00,709 --> 00:37:05,389 Speaker 1: car with the Candian Yeah, and Letterman sits on Netflix 664 00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:08,629 Speaker 1: with them, So I feel like Conan would maybe go 665 00:37:08,669 --> 00:37:12,149 Speaker 1: for a walk, play around a golf Yeah. Yeah. I 666 00:37:12,189 --> 00:37:15,109 Speaker 1: think she needs to redo that interview with Conan, and 667 00:37:15,149 --> 00:37:18,469 Speaker 1: she needs to say, hey, Conan, I'm sorry for correcting 668 00:37:18,509 --> 00:37:21,509 Speaker 1: you and using your education against you. Yeah, because the 669 00:37:21,549 --> 00:37:23,989 Speaker 1: correct word is snuck. And then maybe they can have 670 00:37:24,029 --> 00:37:27,949 Speaker 1: a whole conversation about correct past dance verbs, yeah, because 671 00:37:27,949 --> 00:37:29,629 Speaker 1: that's important for people to know so they don't have 672 00:37:29,749 --> 00:37:34,069 Speaker 1: arguments in their own lives. And then she needs to 673 00:37:34,429 --> 00:37:38,469 Speaker 1: clear up just a few of those comments and probably 674 00:37:38,509 --> 00:37:41,309 Speaker 1: admit that she's got some blind spots when it comes 675 00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:44,709 Speaker 1: to me talking about race. Yeah, maybe that would be handy. 676 00:37:45,509 --> 00:37:50,069 Speaker 1: Now she's also upset people with fiction. Yeah, yeah, with 677 00:37:50,229 --> 00:37:53,309 Speaker 1: Suddenly thirty. And so I did think. I was like, well, 678 00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:55,709 Speaker 1: do we need to redo it and explore it more 679 00:37:55,749 --> 00:37:59,309 Speaker 1: in a serious way? And then I thought it's been done. 680 00:37:59,469 --> 00:38:02,829 Speaker 1: For anyone who has seen the movie Poor Things, it 681 00:38:02,909 --> 00:38:08,629 Speaker 1: is very much yeah thirteen going on thirty, fatus going 682 00:38:08,669 --> 00:38:13,869 Speaker 1: on thirty. Yes, yeah, right, but taken more seriously. And 683 00:38:13,949 --> 00:38:17,629 Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo is and Mark Ruffalo plays a slightly different character, 684 00:38:18,349 --> 00:38:22,069 Speaker 1: but he's there. He's there, and it is about special 685 00:38:22,109 --> 00:38:24,909 Speaker 1: interest in women that appear thirty that are in fact 686 00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:25,829 Speaker 1: younger mentally. 687 00:38:25,989 --> 00:38:26,509 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 688 00:38:26,789 --> 00:38:29,669 Speaker 1: Actually, if you're upset about Suddenly thirty, you'll probably also 689 00:38:29,749 --> 00:38:32,789 Speaker 1: be infuriated by Poor Things. Yeah. Yeah, So I suggest 690 00:38:32,829 --> 00:38:37,029 Speaker 1: you watch it. Good idea, just to get kind of annoyed. 691 00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:40,989 Speaker 1: All right, Well, my charge is to do with Suddenly thirty. 692 00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:46,309 Speaker 1: It's broadly an issue with Magic, the movie What Women Want? 693 00:38:47,189 --> 00:38:50,549 Speaker 1: Do you remember that with Mel Gibson, the movie Freaky Friday. 694 00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:53,709 Speaker 1: My issue, when I really interrogate it and I sit 695 00:38:53,789 --> 00:38:57,749 Speaker 1: with myself, is that with films that involve magic, where 696 00:38:57,749 --> 00:39:00,309 Speaker 1: does the magic begin and end? Because every scene I'm going, 697 00:39:00,309 --> 00:39:03,669 Speaker 1: well is this magic? Yeah? Okay, this magic? Do I believe? 698 00:39:03,709 --> 00:39:03,869 Speaker 3: Oh? 699 00:39:03,949 --> 00:39:07,309 Speaker 1: So this is real? But I meant to just accept 700 00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:09,669 Speaker 1: the magic that God is here. There's also a lot 701 00:39:09,669 --> 00:39:14,629 Speaker 1: of lodge problems with magic. So in What Women Want, 702 00:39:15,229 --> 00:39:19,269 Speaker 1: he can read women's minds. But what I always thought 703 00:39:19,269 --> 00:39:22,589 Speaker 1: watching that movie, I'm like, hmm, minds aren't just a 704 00:39:22,709 --> 00:39:27,229 Speaker 1: clear voice of chatter of chatter? Yeah? What about when 705 00:39:27,229 --> 00:39:29,789 Speaker 1: you're thinking in images? Can he see them? Yeah? It's 706 00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:31,589 Speaker 1: a great can you only hear your thoughts? 707 00:39:31,949 --> 00:39:32,389 Speaker 3: Yeah? 708 00:39:32,389 --> 00:39:36,869 Speaker 1: And great premise. I suppose you just you tie yourself in? 709 00:39:36,949 --> 00:39:40,709 Speaker 1: Not you tie yourself? Do you do? And I suppose 710 00:39:40,709 --> 00:39:42,669 Speaker 1: that my sentence, I know what you're saying about poor things, 711 00:39:43,029 --> 00:39:45,989 Speaker 1: but there is a very real fallout to lose seventeen 712 00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:50,109 Speaker 1: years of memory, absolute tragedy. You don't know who? Do 713 00:39:50,149 --> 00:39:54,709 Speaker 1: you love your husband? I also wonder those movies involving 714 00:39:54,749 --> 00:39:59,109 Speaker 1: magic are they dangerous? Because what women want it starts 715 00:39:59,229 --> 00:40:03,589 Speaker 1: with a hair dryer and he electrocutes and people what 716 00:40:03,749 --> 00:40:05,629 Speaker 1: they think that if they electrocute themselves in the bath, 717 00:40:05,669 --> 00:40:07,469 Speaker 1: they're just gonna be able to read minds. 718 00:40:07,269 --> 00:40:09,309 Speaker 2: Please don't electrocute yourself. 719 00:40:09,429 --> 00:40:12,029 Speaker 1: And then I think it's like, if you're reading minds, 720 00:40:12,189 --> 00:40:14,869 Speaker 1: then the correct thing to do is maybe you'll like 721 00:40:14,909 --> 00:40:16,989 Speaker 1: tricking yourself again. It's always you got to do the 722 00:40:17,029 --> 00:40:20,909 Speaker 1: magic again at the end to get back away. Imagine 723 00:40:20,989 --> 00:40:25,749 Speaker 1: being stuck in an unending magic loop. See that's stressful. 724 00:40:26,829 --> 00:40:28,869 Speaker 1: How does she get out of it in suddenly thirty? 725 00:40:28,949 --> 00:40:31,389 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, So at the end, it's Maddie's 726 00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:34,269 Speaker 1: wedding day and she goes and then he gives her 727 00:40:34,549 --> 00:40:38,469 Speaker 1: the house thing again. More magic dust wakes up in 728 00:40:38,549 --> 00:40:42,229 Speaker 1: the closet back at thirteen, and she kisses Maddie got 729 00:40:42,629 --> 00:40:51,189 Speaker 1: magic again. You're smiling with such joy. I like ours. 730 00:40:51,389 --> 00:40:54,589 Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, I like it because then she 731 00:40:54,669 --> 00:40:57,109 Speaker 1: ends up with mikcrafflo oh, and then it flashes to 732 00:40:57,229 --> 00:40:59,789 Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, and she ends up with mirk Raffalo, 733 00:41:00,109 --> 00:41:03,029 Speaker 1: and she changes her future ends up in a house 734 00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:07,109 Speaker 1: that looks like the house he made her. Wow. Yeah, 735 00:41:07,389 --> 00:41:14,989 Speaker 1: beautiful Phila. Yeah, long life, isn't it? Calling back and forward, 736 00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:19,349 Speaker 1: back and forward. We just do this chronologically, very confused. 737 00:41:19,909 --> 00:41:22,949 Speaker 1: That's all we've got time for. On canceled this week. 738 00:41:23,069 --> 00:41:26,069 Speaker 1: The executive producer of canceled is to Lisciitis as with 739 00:41:26,149 --> 00:41:36,949 Speaker 1: audio editing by Tom Lyon. We will be back next week. Bye.