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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm Claire Murphy.

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Speaker 1: This is Mumma MIA's daily news podcast, The Quickie. All Right,

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Speaker 1: enough time has passed for you all to have binged

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Speaker 1: the first four episodes of Bridgeton Season three.

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Speaker 2: Father, do you believe the best foundation for love is friendship?

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Speaker 3: It is rare that you must follow your heart.

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Speaker 1: But if you've spent any time on TikTok or Instagram

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Speaker 1: since the new season's debut, you may have seen the

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Speaker 1: many Bridgeton experts breaking down each and every moment of

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Speaker 1: those first four reps to give us insight into the

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Speaker 1: easter eggs. We may have missed the links back to

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Speaker 1: seasons past and even the significance of cake in the

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Speaker 1: Bridgeton universe, and one of them is joining us today

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Speaker 1: to explain them all. But before we take a stroll

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Speaker 1: with the ton, here's the lake from the Quickie Newsroom. Friday,

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Speaker 1: May thirty one. Donald Trump has been found guilty of

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Speaker 1: all thirty four counts at his hush money trial, making

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Speaker 1: him the first US president in history to be found

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Speaker 1: guilty of a criminal offense. The jury in the New

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Speaker 1: York based trial took two days to find the former

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Speaker 1: payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels in the lead

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Speaker 1: up to the twenty sixteen election, finding him guilty on

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Speaker 1: all thirty four counts. The verdict plunging the US into

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Speaker 1: unexplored territory ahead of the November five election, where Trump

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Speaker 1: Trump has denied any wrongdoing through the trial, even posting

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Speaker 1: on social media during the deliberation period that he had

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Speaker 1: done everything right. He now faces a maximum four year

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Speaker 1: jail term, although others in similar cases have been handed

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Speaker 1: shorter sentences, fines or probation. There are concerns for an

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Speaker 1: Australian man who is amongst fourteen pro democracy activists convicted

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Speaker 1: and at the highest levels, and will continue to do so.

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Speaker 1: The verdict came after police arrested forty seven people in

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Speaker 1: The King recently returned to public duties after undergoing cancer treatment,

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Speaker 1: We Are the Champions and We Will Rock You from

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Speaker 1: their current owners, the band's members Brian May, Roger Taylor,

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Speaker 1: John Deacon and the estate of the late Freddie Mercury.

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Speaker 1: the latest news headlines. Next, a bridget and breakdown with

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Speaker 1: someone who has researched every moment of season three. Ainsley

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Speaker 1: Broom is a content creator, TikToker and unabashedly one of

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Speaker 1: Bridgington's biggest fans. So today we're going to rock out

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Speaker 1: what is it about Bridgington that is so captured your heart?

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Speaker 1: I guess this season two brings in that next level

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Speaker 3: Like, yes, girl, We've all been there.

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Speaker 2: All of us go through.

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Speaker 1: Do you know one big thing that's part of my

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Speaker 2: So to know that someone like Nicola Coughlin is doing

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Speaker 1: What can we take me back for a second to

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Speaker 2: Something palmyt Yeah, palma palm.

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Speaker 3: Well that's right.

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Speaker 1: So can you tell me through the easter eggs that

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Speaker 2: And then Benedict's goes through four, and then Eloise goes

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Speaker 3: You remember when we first met.

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Speaker 2: I was riding my horse, minding my own business when

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Speaker 1: It was not my fault, the wind looking off my head,

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Speaker 3: You certainly seen, please, when I landed in the mud,

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Speaker 1: There's actually a link back to the first time the

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Speaker 1: I love too that there's some references that are a

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Speaker 2: And people in the comment section were like, that's what

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Speaker 2: Good evening, mister Bridgeton ladies and oh ladies, they've checked

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Speaker 2: hunting impacts and so then to see Benedict's girl, they're

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Speaker 2: friends still love her story? So it checks out?

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about this friends to love his story,

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Speaker 2: We've seen so many husbands watching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're right into it, right even though they

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Speaker 1: say they're not. So there was this time where there's

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Speaker 1: we were inside Penelope's mind. We were not inside Penelope's mind. Correct,

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So this has like multiple layers to it,

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Speaker 1: So she gr on my face, no, I'm you removed it,

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Speaker 2: Good luck taking it to the book, to the source material.

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Speaker 3: Mister worldwide, surely.

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Speaker 2: Mister Worldwide, which of course works because Colin is mister Worldwide.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen little hints of what's coming up in

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Speaker 2: Yes, it would be very interesting if that's the route

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Speaker 1: But you are right, society does not seek to forge

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Speaker 3: I did try to befriend you in your first season out,

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Speaker 2: photos of Luke Thompson that have been emerging and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: As everybody in the fandom has said, there's no glow

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Speaker 3: You cannot improve on perfection.

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Speaker 2: You can't improve on perfection. A lot of people would

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Speaker 1: If for nothing else, Shonda Rhymes for making these very

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Speaker 1: much in the Female Gaze, we salute.

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Speaker 2: Her yes all the time. Like in Chonda, we trust

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Speaker 2: I will hold that woman forever. The female gaze has

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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in today, friends, taking some time to

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Speaker 1: appreciate the Female Gaze centered Shonda Rhyme's brilliance that is Bridgiton.

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