1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 3: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,584 Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on. 5 00:00:25,224 --> 00:00:28,224 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 6 00:00:28,264 --> 00:00:31,704 Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm em Vernon and I'm Laura Brodney. And 7 00:00:31,824 --> 00:00:36,064 Speaker 2: on the show today we are talking about Everybody's favorite 8 00:00:36,104 --> 00:00:40,504 Speaker 2: boyfriend and the massive rebrand he just went into. Plus 9 00:00:40,624 --> 00:00:44,664 Speaker 2: another scandal has happened from Maths. I have so many 10 00:00:44,704 --> 00:00:46,064 Speaker 2: feelings about this one. 11 00:00:46,304 --> 00:00:49,744 Speaker 3: But first, but first, we've had some very important breaking 12 00:00:49,824 --> 00:00:53,304 Speaker 3: TV news today. So, Emily, what do you think when 13 00:00:53,344 --> 00:00:55,304 Speaker 3: you hear the name Taylor Lautner. 14 00:00:56,024 --> 00:01:02,184 Speaker 2: I think Twilight, correct, I think Taylor Swift also correct. 15 00:01:02,344 --> 00:01:04,064 Speaker 2: I think backflips. 16 00:01:04,504 --> 00:01:06,784 Speaker 3: He likes a backflip. He loves a backflip, especially on 17 00:01:06,864 --> 00:01:07,744 Speaker 3: stage with Taylor. 18 00:01:08,064 --> 00:01:10,064 Speaker 2: I think he's like her only exit there, like really 19 00:01:10,064 --> 00:01:12,904 Speaker 2: close friends with right. Yeah, he's the good ex because 20 00:01:12,944 --> 00:01:15,464 Speaker 2: his partner, who's also named Taylor, his wife is a 21 00:01:15,504 --> 00:01:16,744 Speaker 2: massive tales so fair. 22 00:01:16,864 --> 00:01:20,624 Speaker 3: Exactly so, Taylor Lautner really blew up in the Twilight franchise. 23 00:01:20,864 --> 00:01:23,304 Speaker 3: Fun fact, he was only meant to play Jacob in 24 00:01:23,384 --> 00:01:25,224 Speaker 3: the first movie, and then they were going to rehire 25 00:01:25,464 --> 00:01:27,544 Speaker 3: how you know, how he goes through this whole like 26 00:01:27,864 --> 00:01:31,064 Speaker 3: figures physical change where he comes all muscloyless everything. If 27 00:01:31,104 --> 00:01:32,744 Speaker 3: you haven't read the book, when he becomes aware wolf, 28 00:01:32,744 --> 00:01:34,704 Speaker 3: he becomes all bulky and hot. 29 00:01:34,864 --> 00:01:38,864 Speaker 2: That transformation. Yeah, so they well, year old me could 30 00:01:38,864 --> 00:01:40,584 Speaker 2: not believe a man that. 31 00:01:41,344 --> 00:01:43,224 Speaker 3: So they were going to recast that role. And then 32 00:01:43,304 --> 00:01:45,424 Speaker 3: he went away and bulked up and changed his body 33 00:01:45,464 --> 00:01:48,064 Speaker 3: so he could continue playing Jacob. And he did it 34 00:01:48,144 --> 00:01:50,984 Speaker 3: for the girl knew we had to and Christian Stewart 35 00:01:51,024 --> 00:01:53,344 Speaker 3: always said she was really proud of him, which was cute. Anyway, 36 00:01:53,424 --> 00:01:56,144 Speaker 3: he was set up after that to be this teen 37 00:01:56,264 --> 00:01:59,264 Speaker 3: kind of movie star. He did some action movies and 38 00:01:59,704 --> 00:02:02,864 Speaker 3: like Robert Pattinson and Kristian Stewart, was going to be, 39 00:02:02,944 --> 00:02:05,464 Speaker 3: you know, a big thing in Hollywood. And then after Twilight, 40 00:02:05,824 --> 00:02:10,624 Speaker 3: it kind of all went away. A few movies didn't 41 00:02:10,624 --> 00:02:11,544 Speaker 3: perform very well. 42 00:02:12,344 --> 00:02:15,224 Speaker 2: I guess a lot of massive like payout for Twilight. 43 00:02:15,344 --> 00:02:17,824 Speaker 3: Well yeah, but he was still actively trying to be 44 00:02:17,864 --> 00:02:20,424 Speaker 3: a working actor. It just didn't translate. 45 00:02:20,584 --> 00:02:22,424 Speaker 2: He was in Valentine's Day, he wasn't. 46 00:02:22,264 --> 00:02:26,144 Speaker 3: Valentine's but his career in Twilight didn't translate over to 47 00:02:26,184 --> 00:02:29,544 Speaker 3: being successful in other projects. He's been doing okay the 48 00:02:29,624 --> 00:02:31,984 Speaker 3: last few years. His main project is that he does 49 00:02:31,984 --> 00:02:34,504 Speaker 3: a podcast with his wife, also named Taylor Lautner, and 50 00:02:34,504 --> 00:02:36,944 Speaker 3: that's kind of their bit, and they have celebrity guests. 51 00:02:37,224 --> 00:02:40,624 Speaker 2: I honestly like see like she, for me, is more 52 00:02:40,664 --> 00:02:42,784 Speaker 2: famous than he is. Like I follow her on TikTok. 53 00:02:43,144 --> 00:02:43,944 Speaker 2: You really funny. 54 00:02:44,064 --> 00:02:46,624 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's really taken that whole I'm Taylor Lawner's wife 55 00:02:46,624 --> 00:02:48,704 Speaker 3: thing and really run with it. So good on her. 56 00:02:48,984 --> 00:02:51,824 Speaker 3: But today the news came out that Taylor Lautner is 57 00:02:51,864 --> 00:02:53,104 Speaker 3: making a TV comeback. 58 00:02:53,304 --> 00:02:56,504 Speaker 2: Oh on his own credit, Like he's just doing as. 59 00:02:56,064 --> 00:02:58,824 Speaker 3: Well, not so much. He's still using the Twilight names. 60 00:02:58,864 --> 00:03:01,704 Speaker 3: So what's in funny is that he didn't announce this Variety. 61 00:03:02,904 --> 00:03:04,664 Speaker 3: I don't know if he was ready to espicially. Now 62 00:03:04,744 --> 00:03:07,704 Speaker 3: that Variety, which is a trade publication for the film 63 00:03:07,704 --> 00:03:10,664 Speaker 3: and TV industry, learned of this new project and just 64 00:03:10,704 --> 00:03:13,464 Speaker 3: put the story out there. So they said Taylor Lautner 65 00:03:13,504 --> 00:03:16,344 Speaker 3: is set to start in a very self aware TV series. 66 00:03:16,704 --> 00:03:19,704 Speaker 3: So they've learned that he will star in and executive 67 00:03:19,744 --> 00:03:24,304 Speaker 3: produce a new scripted series called Taylor Lautner were Wolf Hunter, 68 00:03:24,824 --> 00:03:29,944 Speaker 3: which is currently in development, so they have I don't 69 00:03:29,944 --> 00:03:32,104 Speaker 3: want him to do this. No, no, I actually I 70 00:03:32,104 --> 00:03:33,824 Speaker 3: don't want him to just with whole judgment until you 71 00:03:33,864 --> 00:03:37,784 Speaker 3: tell you what the Oh my god, are you actually crying? 72 00:03:37,824 --> 00:03:42,824 Speaker 2: I know, no, I thought anyway, I continue. Actually, I 73 00:03:42,824 --> 00:03:48,344 Speaker 2: don't know why. I think I'm getting my period. Sorry, listens, 74 00:03:48,344 --> 00:03:50,744 Speaker 2: we'll just take him moment what Emily cries over Taylor 75 00:03:50,784 --> 00:03:52,704 Speaker 2: Lawtner making it. I also feel like I heard about this. 76 00:03:52,784 --> 00:03:54,704 Speaker 2: I don't know why this is upset it has. 77 00:03:54,704 --> 00:03:57,104 Speaker 3: Come out today. Okay, well now I'm worried about telling 78 00:03:57,104 --> 00:03:58,984 Speaker 3: you the rest of it, but just in the interest 79 00:03:58,984 --> 00:04:01,264 Speaker 3: of keeping the podcast going, The official longline for the 80 00:04:01,304 --> 00:04:05,144 Speaker 3: series says, after wrapping the final Twilight film, Taylor Lautner 81 00:04:05,264 --> 00:04:07,744 Speaker 3: vanished from the Spotlight that's part of the TV show 82 00:04:07,784 --> 00:04:11,784 Speaker 3: but also factual. Fans speculated to Boyd's theraicized. But the 83 00:04:11,824 --> 00:04:15,144 Speaker 3: truth is wilder than fiction. Taylor wasn't just taking a 84 00:04:15,184 --> 00:04:18,624 Speaker 3: mental health break. He was preparing for his real calling. 85 00:04:19,104 --> 00:04:24,224 Speaker 3: Taylor Lautner were Wolf Hunter playing himself. Taylor is drawn. 86 00:04:26,944 --> 00:04:31,024 Speaker 2: Playing He's hunting the werewolf. Yeah, a werewolf himself. 87 00:04:31,064 --> 00:04:33,504 Speaker 3: No, no, no, but he's Taylor Law and the actor 88 00:04:33,624 --> 00:04:36,264 Speaker 3: hunting were wolves. It's a comedy. 89 00:04:38,224 --> 00:04:40,624 Speaker 2: Reality TV, so how would it be. 90 00:04:40,544 --> 00:04:42,464 Speaker 3: A reality TV show? Were Wolves aren't real? 91 00:04:42,704 --> 00:04:45,544 Speaker 2: Maybe he thinks they are if he's doing this, I mean, 92 00:04:46,104 --> 00:04:47,024 Speaker 2: would he be doing this. 93 00:04:47,304 --> 00:04:51,944 Speaker 3: It's a scripted series, so playing himself, Taylor is drawn 94 00:04:52,024 --> 00:04:55,504 Speaker 3: into a secret society of were wolf trackers who need 95 00:04:55,544 --> 00:04:56,784 Speaker 3: his unique expertise. 96 00:04:56,904 --> 00:04:59,184 Speaker 2: This is just teen wolf, Yeah kind of. He's just 97 00:04:59,184 --> 00:05:02,264 Speaker 2: stealing this frohow great show, but he's stealing it from them. 98 00:05:02,504 --> 00:05:06,304 Speaker 3: It continues as he navigates his double life Hollywood actor 99 00:05:06,304 --> 00:05:08,504 Speaker 3: by day, supernatural warrior by night. 100 00:05:10,104 --> 00:05:14,064 Speaker 2: But he's not a Hollywood actor. He's just going to 101 00:05:14,104 --> 00:05:15,544 Speaker 2: go to auditions and not get them. 102 00:05:15,624 --> 00:05:19,224 Speaker 3: But again, it's a scripted show, so that's how the 103 00:05:19,264 --> 00:05:21,944 Speaker 3: fiction was dressed out. I love how the fictionalized part 104 00:05:22,064 --> 00:05:28,944 Speaker 3: is not the werewolf hunter, it's the Hollywood actor. Taylor 105 00:05:29,024 --> 00:05:34,384 Speaker 3: must wrestle with the ultimate irony that's tough, fighting the 106 00:05:34,504 --> 00:05:44,264 Speaker 3: very creatures that made him famous. 107 00:05:44,624 --> 00:05:49,224 Speaker 2: This is a scripted show that between saving the. 108 00:05:49,224 --> 00:05:53,584 Speaker 3: World, reviving his career, and falling in love, he faces 109 00:05:53,624 --> 00:05:54,624 Speaker 3: the ultimate. 110 00:05:54,304 --> 00:06:01,664 Speaker 2: Question, crying what happens when your biggest role becomes your 111 00:06:01,704 --> 00:06:03,104 Speaker 2: greatest enemy. 112 00:06:04,984 --> 00:06:08,104 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. This is genius of him. He knows people 113 00:06:08,184 --> 00:06:11,144 Speaker 3: only associate him with Twilight. He he knows people are 114 00:06:11,184 --> 00:06:13,704 Speaker 3: asking where he's been, and now he's in on the 115 00:06:13,824 --> 00:06:16,384 Speaker 3: joke and he's going to play himself in a scripted series, 116 00:06:16,624 --> 00:06:19,824 Speaker 3: which has worked really well for actors before Matt LeBlanc 117 00:06:19,864 --> 00:06:23,624 Speaker 3: played himself in episodes Comedic genius James Van der Beek 118 00:06:23,864 --> 00:06:26,264 Speaker 3: was the funniest an actor has ever been in Don't 119 00:06:26,264 --> 00:06:29,624 Speaker 3: Trust the Bitch and Apartment twenty three, both playing themselves. 120 00:06:29,904 --> 00:06:30,904 Speaker 3: That's what he's doing. 121 00:06:31,104 --> 00:06:34,824 Speaker 2: Oh god, I can't I love how. While Robert Pattison 122 00:06:34,864 --> 00:06:37,624 Speaker 2: is saying everyone get over Twilight, Taylor Loran is like, 123 00:06:37,784 --> 00:06:40,184 Speaker 2: lean in, guy, Yeah, I've got something for you. He's like, 124 00:06:40,264 --> 00:06:41,864 Speaker 2: watch me take that and just put it into a 125 00:06:41,904 --> 00:06:45,424 Speaker 2: whole new franchise. Can I just say this, this show 126 00:06:45,544 --> 00:06:48,224 Speaker 2: we need to support funny. I can't believe we're having 127 00:06:48,304 --> 00:06:50,304 Speaker 2: this discussion. This is so funny. 128 00:06:50,304 --> 00:06:53,024 Speaker 3: I actually think this will be great for his career 129 00:06:53,144 --> 00:06:53,824 Speaker 3: and for his fare. 130 00:06:53,904 --> 00:06:56,744 Speaker 2: Maybe we should recap, honestly, should recap the episode. 131 00:06:56,784 --> 00:06:58,864 Speaker 3: We should recap, But I just want everyone to know 132 00:06:58,904 --> 00:07:00,824 Speaker 3: and Taylor Lawner to know that we are throwing our 133 00:07:00,864 --> 00:07:03,784 Speaker 3: full support behind Taylor Lawtner were Wolf Hunter. I will 134 00:07:03,784 --> 00:07:05,744 Speaker 3: support this show or right about it. I just I 135 00:07:05,784 --> 00:07:07,144 Speaker 3: want this to happen for him so bad. 136 00:07:07,224 --> 00:07:08,624 Speaker 2: What do you think it's going to be his punchline 137 00:07:08,664 --> 00:07:11,304 Speaker 2: before his slays them. I think it's going to be 138 00:07:11,784 --> 00:07:14,264 Speaker 2: thank you for your service and then he beheads them, 139 00:07:14,504 --> 00:07:15,904 Speaker 2: maybe because they served him. 140 00:07:16,144 --> 00:07:19,024 Speaker 3: Yes, he admits as Yeah, his greatest role has become 141 00:07:19,064 --> 00:07:22,304 Speaker 3: his biggest enemy, so that's really exciting. Congrats to Taylor. 142 00:07:22,464 --> 00:07:24,104 Speaker 3: We support you every step of the way. 143 00:07:26,584 --> 00:07:30,624 Speaker 2: So the Internet's favorite boyfriend has had a rebrand after 144 00:07:30,784 --> 00:07:33,944 Speaker 2: he goes with us for what feels like years. Pete 145 00:07:34,024 --> 00:07:39,304 Speaker 2: Davidson looks very different. So he used to have bleach 146 00:07:39,384 --> 00:07:42,224 Speaker 2: blonde hair, he used to be covered in tattoos, and 147 00:07:42,344 --> 00:07:46,064 Speaker 2: recently with the campaign with the clothing brand name Reformation, 148 00:07:47,104 --> 00:07:49,744 Speaker 2: he has changed completely. He now has a buzzcut, he's 149 00:07:49,744 --> 00:07:53,024 Speaker 2: gone back to his natural brunette, and he has lasered 150 00:07:53,264 --> 00:07:55,784 Speaker 2: all of his tattoos off. He went on Jimmy Fallon 151 00:07:55,824 --> 00:07:58,464 Speaker 2: to talk about it, and he said that he started 152 00:07:58,464 --> 00:08:02,344 Speaker 2: the tattoo removal in twenty twenty. He thinks he had 153 00:08:02,384 --> 00:08:05,184 Speaker 2: over two hundred tattoos, and it's been reported it's cost 154 00:08:05,264 --> 00:08:08,744 Speaker 2: him up to two hundred thousand US dollars to remove them. 155 00:08:08,744 --> 00:08:11,504 Speaker 2: I would believe that though, So can you imagine the pain 156 00:08:11,744 --> 00:08:12,704 Speaker 2: of going through all of that. 157 00:08:12,784 --> 00:08:14,544 Speaker 3: I hope they gave that skin numbing cream. 158 00:08:14,504 --> 00:08:16,704 Speaker 2: Because apparently you get them, you have to go through 159 00:08:16,744 --> 00:08:18,904 Speaker 2: sessions for each one, like six to eight sessions, and 160 00:08:18,904 --> 00:08:20,744 Speaker 2: then you have to wait weeks in between, and you're 161 00:08:20,784 --> 00:08:22,624 Speaker 2: not allowed to be in the sun or anything. And 162 00:08:22,624 --> 00:08:24,904 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh god, it sounds like my worst nightmare. 163 00:08:25,264 --> 00:08:27,064 Speaker 2: So he also said that the reason he did it 164 00:08:27,104 --> 00:08:29,504 Speaker 2: was because he wanted to pursue his acting career, and 165 00:08:29,544 --> 00:08:32,064 Speaker 2: then a lot of actors and movies and TV shows 166 00:08:32,064 --> 00:08:34,224 Speaker 2: don't have that many tattoos, so he'd spend hours in 167 00:08:34,424 --> 00:08:37,144 Speaker 2: makeup to hide them. He also said that he made 168 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:40,384 Speaker 2: those changes after he went through rehab and he was 169 00:08:40,424 --> 00:08:43,024 Speaker 2: on his like sober journey, so he said that he 170 00:08:43,144 --> 00:08:46,784 Speaker 2: was kind of now like just growing up essentially. Following 171 00:08:46,864 --> 00:08:50,664 Speaker 2: that was the whole ad from Reformation where they pictured 172 00:08:50,704 --> 00:08:53,864 Speaker 2: him in a campaign that was titled The Perfect Boyfriend. 173 00:08:54,304 --> 00:08:56,544 Speaker 2: It was an ad that has gone absolutely viral. He 174 00:08:56,664 --> 00:08:59,464 Speaker 2: narrated it, he's a little snippet of what he said, Hey, 175 00:09:00,424 --> 00:09:00,904 Speaker 2: you may know. 176 00:09:00,944 --> 00:09:01,624 Speaker 4: Me from stuff. 177 00:09:02,824 --> 00:09:05,704 Speaker 3: Yeah, I joke, I act, I write, I speak. 178 00:09:05,704 --> 00:09:08,144 Speaker 5: What I'm pretty sure is my mind. I just try 179 00:09:08,184 --> 00:09:10,704 Speaker 5: to stay out of trouble, do my thing. But for 180 00:09:10,744 --> 00:09:13,864 Speaker 5: the past few years, my favorite side gig, the one 181 00:09:13,904 --> 00:09:17,144 Speaker 5: thing that's given me a space to collect myself Emily 182 00:09:17,704 --> 00:09:22,024 Speaker 5: it's gluten free, refocus my energy, revitalize my spirit. Has 183 00:09:22,064 --> 00:09:23,704 Speaker 5: been coming in here a couple of times. 184 00:09:23,464 --> 00:09:30,064 Speaker 4: A week and being the perfect boyfriend. Obviously it's just 185 00:09:30,104 --> 00:09:33,224 Speaker 4: a title. I'm not perfect, but who is and who 186 00:09:33,264 --> 00:09:33,784 Speaker 4: wants to be? 187 00:09:34,704 --> 00:09:37,824 Speaker 5: Wow, you look amazing as you definitely get that, but 188 00:09:38,264 --> 00:09:40,464 Speaker 5: it's a way of putting out into the world that yes, 189 00:09:40,864 --> 00:09:43,904 Speaker 5: I'm someone's boyfriend, and I take that seriously. When I'm 190 00:09:43,944 --> 00:09:45,224 Speaker 5: with her, I'm with her. 191 00:09:45,624 --> 00:09:49,384 Speaker 2: It's so so funny. So I actually have photographic evidence 192 00:09:49,624 --> 00:09:52,864 Speaker 2: of Pete Davidson before this was on SNL where he 193 00:09:52,904 --> 00:09:56,424 Speaker 2: did the Bobbie Oh a great moment and then what 194 00:09:56,504 --> 00:09:56,984 Speaker 2: he looks like. 195 00:09:57,184 --> 00:10:00,504 Speaker 3: Now, Wow, that is quite the transformation. 196 00:10:00,584 --> 00:10:03,984 Speaker 2: I'm crazy seeing them side by side, Yes, just because. 197 00:10:03,704 --> 00:10:06,304 Speaker 3: I mean it's like a completely different person, right, I 198 00:10:06,304 --> 00:10:08,544 Speaker 3: know he's had dark hair before. Yeah, he looks so 199 00:10:08,624 --> 00:10:10,584 Speaker 3: much better with dark hair. I know he bleached because 200 00:10:10,824 --> 00:10:12,984 Speaker 3: he and Kim had a couple's hair doing. They bleached 201 00:10:13,024 --> 00:10:16,344 Speaker 3: them together. Rap, that was a great couple. But yeah, 202 00:10:16,384 --> 00:10:18,704 Speaker 3: just a whole new demeanor. I found him hot before 203 00:10:18,744 --> 00:10:20,464 Speaker 3: in like a quirky way, but now I find him 204 00:10:20,504 --> 00:10:21,584 Speaker 3: hot in a conventional way. 205 00:10:21,624 --> 00:10:25,784 Speaker 2: And that's confusing so interesting because I never yeah, I always, 206 00:10:25,824 --> 00:10:26,504 Speaker 2: I never got it. 207 00:10:26,664 --> 00:10:29,344 Speaker 3: I never understood it. Isn't that thing with men, where yes, 208 00:10:29,384 --> 00:10:31,864 Speaker 3: he's not conventionally attractive, but that just doesn't matter for men, 209 00:10:32,024 --> 00:10:35,384 Speaker 3: especially in the entertainment industry, just because he was so 210 00:10:35,664 --> 00:10:38,904 Speaker 3: funny and he comes across as so smart and so interesting, 211 00:10:39,064 --> 00:10:41,744 Speaker 3: and also he's very tall, which obviously always helps. I've 212 00:10:41,784 --> 00:10:43,704 Speaker 3: always thought he was super hot. You know, the hottest 213 00:10:43,704 --> 00:10:46,464 Speaker 3: he's ever been is now. This is no, no, there's 214 00:10:46,464 --> 00:10:49,064 Speaker 3: one other moments, okay, and this is very weird, so 215 00:10:49,104 --> 00:10:50,704 Speaker 3: you'll just have to watch this show on your own time. 216 00:10:50,744 --> 00:10:53,504 Speaker 3: It's when he was on SNL and he was calling 217 00:10:53,504 --> 00:10:55,944 Speaker 3: out Kanye West, but way before he started dating Kim 218 00:10:55,984 --> 00:10:58,144 Speaker 3: kardashi in and he started talking about his own mental 219 00:10:58,184 --> 00:11:00,664 Speaker 3: health and he's just so funny and like commanding in 220 00:11:00,664 --> 00:11:02,384 Speaker 3: that moment, that you just like that was a hot man. 221 00:11:02,664 --> 00:11:04,704 Speaker 2: Okay, we need to find that and I'm going to 222 00:11:04,744 --> 00:11:07,544 Speaker 2: post it on that Instagram. But it made me think 223 00:11:07,624 --> 00:11:09,624 Speaker 2: because I know a lot of people who found him 224 00:11:09,624 --> 00:11:12,224 Speaker 2: so so attracted before, and I was like, why do 225 00:11:12,304 --> 00:11:14,584 Speaker 2: I find him so retract him now? But I did 226 00:11:14,584 --> 00:11:17,864 Speaker 2: it before, And I think it's not just like the 227 00:11:17,904 --> 00:11:21,184 Speaker 2: transformation of his looks, but I think it's everything behind 228 00:11:21,224 --> 00:11:23,904 Speaker 2: that as well, like the way he even speaks and 229 00:11:23,984 --> 00:11:26,744 Speaker 2: interviews now with Jimmy Fallon just felt like a completely 230 00:11:26,784 --> 00:11:29,344 Speaker 2: different version of himself, similar to when he did The 231 00:11:29,384 --> 00:11:32,224 Speaker 2: Reformation ads still really funny, like he's still so funny, 232 00:11:32,224 --> 00:11:34,904 Speaker 2: but it's like a different kind of funny now. And 233 00:11:35,144 --> 00:11:38,064 Speaker 2: it made me think about like the whole memification of 234 00:11:38,104 --> 00:11:40,384 Speaker 2: everyone he used to date and how he would always 235 00:11:40,464 --> 00:11:43,784 Speaker 2: date like the most like famous single woman of the time, 236 00:11:43,864 --> 00:11:48,584 Speaker 2: Ariana Grande, Kim Kardashian, and I remember when Rip Prince 237 00:11:48,584 --> 00:11:51,384 Speaker 2: Philip died and people were like making memes of him 238 00:11:51,784 --> 00:11:55,584 Speaker 2: holding hands with Queen Elizabeth like Queen Liznoo or when 239 00:11:55,624 --> 00:11:57,904 Speaker 2: Ben and Gen broke up, but it was Ben pitched 240 00:11:57,984 --> 00:12:02,664 Speaker 2: with Pete Davidson like with Pete Davidson so I have 241 00:12:02,784 --> 00:12:06,424 Speaker 2: some theories, okay, because we don't know, but it seems 242 00:12:06,424 --> 00:12:07,704 Speaker 2: like he's single right now. 243 00:12:07,944 --> 00:12:10,024 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he was dating Madeline Klein, and this is 244 00:12:10,024 --> 00:12:13,224 Speaker 3: so because he's always been so public with his girlfriends before, 245 00:12:13,264 --> 00:12:16,904 Speaker 3: which he has said he gets really upset. He's so sensitive. 246 00:12:17,144 --> 00:12:19,744 Speaker 3: He gets really upset when people just see him as 247 00:12:19,784 --> 00:12:22,264 Speaker 3: this like boyfriend guy, because he's like, I'm more than 248 00:12:22,304 --> 00:12:25,664 Speaker 3: a comedian, I'm a creator. But he also said he 249 00:12:25,704 --> 00:12:27,784 Speaker 3: falls in love really quickly and he loves to be 250 00:12:27,824 --> 00:12:30,424 Speaker 3: in love. So as soon as he starts dating someone, 251 00:12:30,464 --> 00:12:32,904 Speaker 3: which is always a very famous woman, he'll do every 252 00:12:32,944 --> 00:12:35,984 Speaker 3: red carpet with him, every appearance. And Madeline Klein, who 253 00:12:36,024 --> 00:12:38,544 Speaker 3: he was with for I think like well over a year. Yeah, 254 00:12:38,584 --> 00:12:42,144 Speaker 3: they were very like rarely pictured together, no red carpets, 255 00:12:42,184 --> 00:12:44,504 Speaker 3: no events. She was just often seen like walking with him, 256 00:12:44,504 --> 00:12:46,824 Speaker 3: in the car with him. She was in a documentary, 257 00:12:46,904 --> 00:12:49,024 Speaker 3: like on his private plane with him. Really quickly. But 258 00:12:49,024 --> 00:12:51,504 Speaker 3: that was the first relationships he kept out of the spotlight, 259 00:12:51,864 --> 00:12:52,704 Speaker 3: and they still broke up. 260 00:12:52,704 --> 00:12:54,624 Speaker 2: With his sad and they broke up, and it might 261 00:12:54,744 --> 00:12:57,064 Speaker 2: seem his single now, so I've kind of run with that. 262 00:12:57,424 --> 00:12:58,464 Speaker 3: Excellent for both of us. 263 00:12:58,504 --> 00:13:02,224 Speaker 2: With the new rebrand. I've kind of theorized that there's 264 00:13:02,304 --> 00:13:06,824 Speaker 2: three potential partners he could be with, Okay, with this 265 00:13:06,864 --> 00:13:09,144 Speaker 2: whole new rebrand. Okay, And I kind of want your 266 00:13:09,184 --> 00:13:11,144 Speaker 2: opinion on who you think is my likely So I've 267 00:13:11,144 --> 00:13:13,224 Speaker 2: got them here. You've got pictures she's done, so I 268 00:13:13,264 --> 00:13:16,944 Speaker 2: didn't even know you had those hidden down research. Okay, Okay. 269 00:13:17,184 --> 00:13:19,904 Speaker 2: The first person who I think it could don't look okay, 270 00:13:19,904 --> 00:13:23,104 Speaker 2: first person who I think it could be. Okay, what 271 00:13:24,144 --> 00:13:27,464 Speaker 2: not Kristin Davis. Oh like Charlotte York. 272 00:13:27,824 --> 00:13:30,384 Speaker 3: Okay, Charlotte York is happily married. She's holding up a 273 00:13:30,424 --> 00:13:31,344 Speaker 3: picture of Christian. 274 00:13:31,744 --> 00:13:36,464 Speaker 2: Charlotte York before she was married. So cute with you, Artie. Like, 275 00:13:36,504 --> 00:13:40,824 Speaker 2: she's very smart, very intelligent, beautiful woman. She's not famous, 276 00:13:40,864 --> 00:13:43,104 Speaker 2: which is the route that I think he might go down. 277 00:13:43,144 --> 00:13:46,344 Speaker 2: They're not famous, but like, I love this Charte Kristin Davis. 278 00:13:46,704 --> 00:13:50,144 Speaker 2: It's not that it's Charlotte. She loves money. Yeah, he's 279 00:13:50,184 --> 00:13:52,344 Speaker 2: got money. Yep, she loves money. And I feel like 280 00:13:52,384 --> 00:13:54,624 Speaker 2: the one thing she's missing is just like that little 281 00:13:54,784 --> 00:13:56,984 Speaker 2: quirk in her life. You know, she's always like straighty 282 00:13:56,984 --> 00:13:58,264 Speaker 2: one eighty. But this could be the little and. 283 00:13:58,304 --> 00:14:01,744 Speaker 3: We love and opposites attract in fictional series real life, 284 00:14:01,784 --> 00:14:04,184 Speaker 3: it really works out. But a fictional series, we love, 285 00:14:04,504 --> 00:14:07,864 Speaker 3: opposites attract, and they would be complete opposites, even more 286 00:14:07,904 --> 00:14:08,784 Speaker 3: so than her and Harry. 287 00:14:08,864 --> 00:14:09,944 Speaker 2: Yes, do you like that theory? 288 00:14:10,104 --> 00:14:10,184 Speaker 6: Do? 289 00:14:10,424 --> 00:14:10,744 Speaker 2: Okay? 290 00:14:10,784 --> 00:14:11,104 Speaker 3: Theory? 291 00:14:11,144 --> 00:14:12,384 Speaker 2: My next one is a real person. 292 00:14:12,464 --> 00:14:13,624 Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, just good. 293 00:14:13,624 --> 00:14:15,944 Speaker 2: That's good to clarify that she's single, I think. 294 00:14:16,024 --> 00:14:17,384 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll let you know. I'll know. 295 00:14:17,504 --> 00:14:20,104 Speaker 2: I think she's single. But she still lives with her 296 00:14:20,224 --> 00:14:21,984 Speaker 2: ex husband. Oh pretty sure? 297 00:14:22,104 --> 00:14:28,624 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I can't wait to see. She definitely does 298 00:14:28,664 --> 00:14:30,504 Speaker 3: still live with her ex husband. But I hear it's a. 299 00:14:30,504 --> 00:14:34,424 Speaker 2: Big is Sarah Ferguson Fergie Duchess of York. So maybe 300 00:14:34,464 --> 00:14:36,584 Speaker 2: just a York someone who's work in their name he 301 00:14:36,624 --> 00:14:37,064 Speaker 2: could date. 302 00:14:37,264 --> 00:14:39,304 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you've got a York pattern going on, Pete. 303 00:14:39,624 --> 00:14:41,584 Speaker 2: He might go for the royal room. She does love 304 00:14:41,624 --> 00:14:43,344 Speaker 2: an older woman thirteen year age gap. 305 00:14:44,224 --> 00:14:46,824 Speaker 3: Thirteen year age gap I think well over fifteen with 306 00:14:46,904 --> 00:14:47,984 Speaker 3: him in Kate beckhamsale. 307 00:14:48,064 --> 00:14:51,864 Speaker 2: Oh yes, so yeah, and she's funny kind of yeah, 308 00:14:51,904 --> 00:14:54,424 Speaker 2: she's super rich and I feel like stories to tell 309 00:14:54,464 --> 00:14:57,064 Speaker 2: you would like Jack suppose her like high end life, 310 00:14:57,144 --> 00:14:59,784 Speaker 2: how she like is not really relatable. Yeah, and she's 311 00:14:59,824 --> 00:15:02,744 Speaker 2: pretty obvious about that on her podcast. I also think 312 00:15:02,784 --> 00:15:04,824 Speaker 2: he could help keep the royal family relevant. 313 00:15:04,944 --> 00:15:07,144 Speaker 3: Oh, I think so. Yeah. Can you imagine it's like 314 00:15:07,264 --> 00:15:11,224 Speaker 3: Prince Harry, Princess Catherine, Pete Davidson, Sarah, Duchess of York, 315 00:15:11,264 --> 00:15:13,624 Speaker 3: who doesn't get invited to any of the royal invents anymore? 316 00:15:13,824 --> 00:15:15,504 Speaker 2: I think. But also she's had. 317 00:15:15,384 --> 00:15:17,784 Speaker 3: Some scandal in her life. Remember the whole toe sucking thing. 318 00:15:18,104 --> 00:15:19,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, the to sucking thing. 319 00:15:19,624 --> 00:15:19,864 Speaker 3: Yeah. 320 00:15:20,024 --> 00:15:21,704 Speaker 2: I think she's a fun time. I could relate over 321 00:15:21,784 --> 00:15:26,224 Speaker 2: things like that. Okay, my next one, Okay, smile with 322 00:15:26,304 --> 00:15:27,984 Speaker 2: someone who's super in the zy guy. 323 00:15:28,064 --> 00:15:28,304 Speaker 1: Yeah. 324 00:15:28,624 --> 00:15:30,864 Speaker 2: I think the other two I was like, he could 325 00:15:30,864 --> 00:15:33,224 Speaker 2: make them a bit more like fun and relevant and 326 00:15:33,264 --> 00:15:34,704 Speaker 2: keep them in the Zye geist. I'd be like, this 327 00:15:34,744 --> 00:15:40,704 Speaker 2: person could help him. Okay, Okay, oh my god, it's Palma. 328 00:15:41,184 --> 00:15:43,384 Speaker 3: I can say. I don't think that he's good enough 329 00:15:43,384 --> 00:15:44,104 Speaker 3: for Keith Parma. 330 00:15:44,224 --> 00:15:48,344 Speaker 2: But also she's just so funny. 331 00:15:48,344 --> 00:15:50,544 Speaker 3: She would have a fun time with him, but then 332 00:15:50,584 --> 00:15:52,624 Speaker 3: she'd easily walk away. She would have a fun time 333 00:15:52,664 --> 00:15:54,824 Speaker 3: with him and then walk away and be perfectly happy, 334 00:15:55,024 --> 00:15:55,864 Speaker 3: and he would pine it. 335 00:15:55,864 --> 00:15:57,344 Speaker 2: Would destroy for ten years. 336 00:15:57,384 --> 00:15:59,504 Speaker 3: That's what's gonna happen to Pete if he dates Kiki Pie. 337 00:15:59,544 --> 00:16:02,384 Speaker 2: That's true, it would destroy him. I didn't think about that. 338 00:16:02,464 --> 00:16:04,424 Speaker 3: But she might have a good time. By all accounts, 339 00:16:04,544 --> 00:16:05,384 Speaker 3: he's yeah. 340 00:16:05,264 --> 00:16:07,104 Speaker 2: If we want her, if we're on her side, and 341 00:16:07,104 --> 00:16:08,664 Speaker 2: we're like, we need you to have a good time. 342 00:16:08,744 --> 00:16:11,344 Speaker 3: Every single woman who said anything like Davidson dating him 343 00:16:11,384 --> 00:16:13,104 Speaker 3: has allude to the fact that he's great in bed. 344 00:16:13,504 --> 00:16:16,944 Speaker 2: So I just think got BD. Yeah, so she deserves that. Yeah, 345 00:16:16,984 --> 00:16:19,264 Speaker 2: And Kim Kardashian was very vocal about that. And she's 346 00:16:19,304 --> 00:16:21,064 Speaker 2: the kind of person who's like, when I'm done with you, 347 00:16:21,064 --> 00:16:21,544 Speaker 2: I'm done with you. 348 00:16:21,624 --> 00:16:24,424 Speaker 3: Yeah, I should just walk away. Fine. Yeah, he'll be heartbroken, 349 00:16:24,464 --> 00:16:25,144 Speaker 3: but he can deal with it. 350 00:16:25,184 --> 00:16:27,024 Speaker 2: He can deal with it. So those are my three. 351 00:16:27,024 --> 00:16:28,504 Speaker 2: Which one do you think is most likely? 352 00:16:28,744 --> 00:16:33,584 Speaker 3: Ooh, a fictional character, a former Duchess of the UK 353 00:16:34,784 --> 00:16:40,424 Speaker 3: or one of the hottest women in Hollywood. I'm gonna say, Fergie. 354 00:16:40,864 --> 00:16:44,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, Pete, we know you can do it, mate. 355 00:16:45,464 --> 00:16:48,384 Speaker 3: So another week of married at First Sight is done 356 00:16:48,424 --> 00:16:51,784 Speaker 3: and dusted for our crazy getting married on TV Couples 357 00:16:51,904 --> 00:16:55,264 Speaker 3: and again, there's been one scene in particular that has 358 00:16:55,304 --> 00:16:59,424 Speaker 3: both enraged people and sparked a lot of conversation, and 359 00:16:59,504 --> 00:17:01,584 Speaker 3: that is what we're going to get into now. So 360 00:17:01,624 --> 00:17:04,864 Speaker 3: it has to do with couple Ryan and Jackie. So 361 00:17:05,264 --> 00:17:07,184 Speaker 3: Ryan was in a scene with a few of the 362 00:17:07,224 --> 00:17:10,024 Speaker 3: other men on the show and Alessandra, who is the 363 00:17:10,064 --> 00:17:12,744 Speaker 3: second an intimacy expert that they have on the show, 364 00:17:13,104 --> 00:17:16,304 Speaker 3: talking about the relationship they have with their newsake wives, 365 00:17:16,704 --> 00:17:18,624 Speaker 3: and he dropped this little nugget. 366 00:17:18,824 --> 00:17:20,824 Speaker 1: It didn't go the way either of us wanted, but 367 00:17:22,504 --> 00:17:29,384 Speaker 1: we I've got to say, like she gives she is awesome, 368 00:17:30,464 --> 00:17:31,024 Speaker 1: say like that. 369 00:17:32,184 --> 00:17:36,424 Speaker 2: So this went absolutely viral. I feel like everyone's talking 370 00:17:36,424 --> 00:17:39,184 Speaker 2: about it, and it's not just because he said that 371 00:17:39,744 --> 00:17:41,944 Speaker 2: she gives awesome blow jobs. 372 00:17:42,384 --> 00:17:44,024 Speaker 3: Yeah, they beat it out, but they beat. 373 00:17:43,904 --> 00:17:45,824 Speaker 2: It out, that's what he said. Because he also did 374 00:17:45,864 --> 00:17:49,104 Speaker 2: like the gesture yeah, and that she was getting better 375 00:17:49,344 --> 00:17:53,104 Speaker 2: like ongoing. But before that, he also said that the 376 00:17:53,144 --> 00:17:56,424 Speaker 2: whole reason that they were talking about that was because 377 00:17:56,864 --> 00:17:59,624 Speaker 2: she had like an assignment for him, saying that I 378 00:17:59,664 --> 00:18:01,984 Speaker 2: want you to make me feel like the most beautiful woman. 379 00:18:02,064 --> 00:18:03,944 Speaker 2: And he was like, okay, I'm on board, and then 380 00:18:03,944 --> 00:18:05,784 Speaker 2: he started complimenting her and was doing all that, and 381 00:18:05,824 --> 00:18:08,024 Speaker 2: this is when they were talking to the therapist and 382 00:18:08,024 --> 00:18:09,504 Speaker 2: it was just all the men in the room. Yeah, 383 00:18:09,544 --> 00:18:11,384 Speaker 2: So it was just all the and none of the 384 00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:14,984 Speaker 2: wives were there. And she said something about like how 385 00:18:15,024 --> 00:18:19,144 Speaker 2: she wants him to apologize or like atone for his sins. 386 00:18:19,784 --> 00:18:21,864 Speaker 2: And what she was talking about was when they did 387 00:18:21,904 --> 00:18:24,184 Speaker 2: that stupid thing that we talked about last time. We 388 00:18:24,184 --> 00:18:27,184 Speaker 2: talked about maths, a hierarchy of like getting the couples 389 00:18:27,184 --> 00:18:29,864 Speaker 2: to rank who they think is the most attractive. She 390 00:18:29,984 --> 00:18:32,504 Speaker 2: wanted him to kind of apologized for ranking her third 391 00:18:32,544 --> 00:18:35,064 Speaker 2: instead of first. And he's like, I'm not going to 392 00:18:35,104 --> 00:18:38,024 Speaker 2: say sorry for that because it's like something that I did. 393 00:18:38,104 --> 00:18:40,784 Speaker 2: It was like based off attractiveness, he said. And then 394 00:18:40,824 --> 00:18:43,824 Speaker 2: her crazy eyes came out. Yeah, and that's when like, 395 00:18:43,904 --> 00:18:45,824 Speaker 2: I feel like all the viewers plus all the men 396 00:18:45,824 --> 00:18:48,144 Speaker 2: in the room were like, did you literally just like 397 00:18:48,464 --> 00:18:50,184 Speaker 2: say your wife has crazy Yeah. 398 00:18:50,384 --> 00:18:53,024 Speaker 6: The bottom line is talking like that about a woman 399 00:18:53,024 --> 00:18:56,064 Speaker 6: in front of the lads is disrespectful to and it's wrong. 400 00:18:56,584 --> 00:18:58,864 Speaker 6: And right now the group has tried to call out 401 00:18:59,024 --> 00:18:59,744 Speaker 6: Jackie and Ryan. 402 00:18:59,904 --> 00:19:02,184 Speaker 2: They're not buying it, they're pushing it. Back, They're going to. 403 00:19:02,264 --> 00:19:04,824 Speaker 5: Keep trying, you know, like we can see the humor 404 00:19:04,864 --> 00:19:05,144 Speaker 5: of things. 405 00:19:05,744 --> 00:19:06,784 Speaker 2: Do thin hyprais the ice? 406 00:19:06,944 --> 00:19:09,744 Speaker 1: No, I thought he's quite disrespectful to call your wife 407 00:19:10,424 --> 00:19:11,944 Speaker 1: say that she's got crazy eyes to all. 408 00:19:11,904 --> 00:19:14,944 Speaker 3: The boys ran had already heard me say that, And 409 00:19:15,024 --> 00:19:17,704 Speaker 3: a throwback to like a terrible conversation in a previous 410 00:19:17,744 --> 00:19:20,664 Speaker 3: episode that every woman on the show said everything that 411 00:19:20,824 --> 00:19:25,184 Speaker 3: was said about critiquing their looks was terrible. I knew 412 00:19:25,264 --> 00:19:26,704 Speaker 3: that she was already upset about. 413 00:19:26,584 --> 00:19:28,984 Speaker 2: And none of the men were really saying anything to it. 414 00:19:29,104 --> 00:19:31,504 Speaker 2: They all looked shocked and off camera, like when they 415 00:19:31,544 --> 00:19:32,984 Speaker 2: were doing that one on ones with the camera that 416 00:19:33,024 --> 00:19:35,104 Speaker 2: they were all saying like that was actually messed up 417 00:19:35,184 --> 00:19:38,024 Speaker 2: what you said about his partner. To like a room 418 00:19:38,104 --> 00:19:40,344 Speaker 2: full of men, it was only the therapist who was 419 00:19:40,464 --> 00:19:43,224 Speaker 2: like what, like what the hell? Yeah, but it was 420 00:19:43,304 --> 00:19:45,784 Speaker 2: just one of those situations where he could tell that 421 00:19:45,904 --> 00:19:48,544 Speaker 2: the room was not on board with the whole crazy 422 00:19:48,584 --> 00:19:50,224 Speaker 2: I thing, Like he was laughing. He was the only 423 00:19:50,264 --> 00:19:52,224 Speaker 2: one laughing, and he was like, oh, this is not 424 00:19:52,344 --> 00:19:55,144 Speaker 2: the reaction that I expected after saying that. So he 425 00:19:55,224 --> 00:19:57,984 Speaker 2: straightway said, but she gets good blowjob, so it's fine. 426 00:19:58,104 --> 00:20:01,104 Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, it's so cringe, and it's 427 00:20:01,144 --> 00:20:04,224 Speaker 2: one of those situations and I feel like all women 428 00:20:04,624 --> 00:20:08,824 Speaker 2: fear because you just never know what happens in those 429 00:20:08,984 --> 00:20:11,904 Speaker 2: like groups of like the bro code, right, Like it's 430 00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:14,224 Speaker 2: the bro code of like being together in a group 431 00:20:14,264 --> 00:20:16,344 Speaker 2: of men, Like whatever happens and to get said into 432 00:20:16,384 --> 00:20:18,664 Speaker 2: that group will never ever leave that room. And I 433 00:20:18,784 --> 00:20:21,424 Speaker 2: think that was like where the fear and the disgust 434 00:20:21,504 --> 00:20:22,584 Speaker 2: from that comment came out. 435 00:20:23,184 --> 00:20:25,424 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's always that huge fear of like your 436 00:20:25,464 --> 00:20:28,064 Speaker 3: most intimate moments being like mocked by a group of 437 00:20:28,144 --> 00:20:30,144 Speaker 3: men and the person that you share that intimacy with 438 00:20:30,664 --> 00:20:32,504 Speaker 3: making fun of you in a room you're not in, 439 00:20:33,224 --> 00:20:35,264 Speaker 3: not defending him at all. But the only kind of 440 00:20:35,344 --> 00:20:38,344 Speaker 3: way a conversation like that would have been okay just 441 00:20:38,464 --> 00:20:40,584 Speaker 3: given the fact that they're on a TV show that 442 00:20:40,904 --> 00:20:43,184 Speaker 3: is there to talk about this sort of context, Like 443 00:20:43,264 --> 00:20:46,344 Speaker 3: this isn't a regular private couple hanging out with their friends, 444 00:20:46,424 --> 00:20:48,704 Speaker 3: even though I know these conversations happen in real life. 445 00:20:49,144 --> 00:20:51,184 Speaker 3: The only way this would have been okay is if 446 00:20:51,464 --> 00:20:53,384 Speaker 3: because they know that they're both going to be asked 447 00:20:53,424 --> 00:20:56,904 Speaker 3: separately in like film situations and confessionals and producers are 448 00:20:56,944 --> 00:20:58,784 Speaker 3: talking to them if they had sort of made a 449 00:20:58,904 --> 00:21:01,664 Speaker 3: pack together about how much of their sex life they 450 00:21:01,744 --> 00:21:03,864 Speaker 3: were going to share with the cameras, Yeah, knowing they 451 00:21:03,984 --> 00:21:06,224 Speaker 3: have to share a portion of it just to make 452 00:21:06,304 --> 00:21:08,824 Speaker 3: the TV show. And then he's sitting across from the 453 00:21:08,864 --> 00:21:11,704 Speaker 3: show's sex and relationship expert, and she's asking about their 454 00:21:11,744 --> 00:21:14,224 Speaker 3: sex life, like, if Jackie had consented to it, it 455 00:21:14,264 --> 00:21:16,744 Speaker 3: would have been okay, But we find it afterwards that 456 00:21:16,904 --> 00:21:18,984 Speaker 3: she clearly had it. And he also was saying it 457 00:21:19,024 --> 00:21:22,224 Speaker 3: in a real jokey way, so he wasn't even saying like, oh, yeah, 458 00:21:22,304 --> 00:21:24,304 Speaker 3: like I'm getting on great with my fake wife. We're 459 00:21:24,304 --> 00:21:26,464 Speaker 3: having great sex, she's great in bed, Like they might 460 00:21:26,504 --> 00:21:28,104 Speaker 3: have consented to that, and she might have loved that 461 00:21:28,184 --> 00:21:31,824 Speaker 3: information being out there. But afterwards, when it all blows 462 00:21:31,944 --> 00:21:34,264 Speaker 3: up in the next episode, the dinner party, and afterwards, 463 00:21:34,704 --> 00:21:36,664 Speaker 3: Ryan kind of just plays it off as like the 464 00:21:36,744 --> 00:21:38,344 Speaker 3: boys are putting on a bit of a show and 465 00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:40,344 Speaker 3: he's like, oh, the producers want to divide us, like 466 00:21:40,464 --> 00:21:43,904 Speaker 3: not actually taking responsibility for it. And then when Jackie's upset, 467 00:21:44,464 --> 00:21:46,584 Speaker 3: Ryan laughs it off and says like it was a 468 00:21:46,624 --> 00:21:48,504 Speaker 3: bit risky to say, and he just says like, maybe 469 00:21:48,544 --> 00:21:51,384 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have used humor. And then afterwards Jackie said 470 00:21:51,384 --> 00:21:56,384 Speaker 3: that she's really humiliated and she feels really disrespected by 471 00:21:56,464 --> 00:21:59,464 Speaker 3: the whole situation after the yeah, which means that there 472 00:21:59,664 --> 00:22:01,744 Speaker 3: wasn't consent of how much of their sex life he 473 00:22:01,904 --> 00:22:04,024 Speaker 3: was going to share on the show, even though that 474 00:22:04,144 --> 00:22:05,664 Speaker 3: is meant to be part of the show and the. 475 00:22:05,744 --> 00:22:08,504 Speaker 2: Actual dinner party, it felt like she was on his side. 476 00:22:08,664 --> 00:22:11,824 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think that's a compliment? 477 00:22:11,984 --> 00:22:15,544 Speaker 2: I would love to have crazy eyes. Why, it's fun. 478 00:22:17,224 --> 00:22:19,784 Speaker 6: The bottom line is talking like that about a woman 479 00:22:19,864 --> 00:22:22,864 Speaker 6: in front of the lads is disrespectful to and it's wrong. 480 00:22:23,424 --> 00:22:25,664 Speaker 2: And right now the group has tried to call out 481 00:22:25,864 --> 00:22:28,464 Speaker 2: Jackie and Ryan. They're not buying it. They're pushing it back. 482 00:22:28,584 --> 00:22:30,824 Speaker 2: They're going to keep trying. She was like, Yeah, I 483 00:22:30,904 --> 00:22:32,344 Speaker 2: do have crazy eyes. It's fine. 484 00:22:32,864 --> 00:22:34,744 Speaker 3: She said that later on in a confessional she said 485 00:22:34,784 --> 00:22:37,704 Speaker 3: she felt disrespected that around the sex comment. 486 00:22:37,664 --> 00:22:40,384 Speaker 2: And it just shows that like, obviously she didn't want 487 00:22:40,424 --> 00:22:42,424 Speaker 2: to be embarrassed in front of everyone, and she didn't 488 00:22:42,464 --> 00:22:45,264 Speaker 2: want her relationship to look like that there were any 489 00:22:45,864 --> 00:22:48,144 Speaker 2: faults in it or that they were fighting and It's 490 00:22:48,184 --> 00:22:51,504 Speaker 2: one of those situations where like you suddenly hear from 491 00:22:51,664 --> 00:22:53,984 Speaker 2: like another guy on the table. I think it was 492 00:22:54,064 --> 00:22:56,424 Speaker 2: Billy who was like, and are you okay with him 493 00:22:56,504 --> 00:22:59,384 Speaker 2: saying that you have crazy eyes? Yeah, And then immediately 494 00:22:59,504 --> 00:23:02,104 Speaker 2: she was like yeah, And one of the situations where 495 00:23:02,144 --> 00:23:04,344 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, Oneman would be okay with that. 496 00:23:04,504 --> 00:23:06,264 Speaker 3: Well, It's one of those things and sometimes I think 497 00:23:06,344 --> 00:23:08,064 Speaker 3: wanting to sort of just go with the flow beat 498 00:23:08,104 --> 00:23:10,184 Speaker 3: the cool girl and not have something blob especially on 499 00:23:10,224 --> 00:23:11,944 Speaker 3: a show like this where you know that every action 500 00:23:12,104 --> 00:23:14,424 Speaker 3: is being filmed. So yeah, it was in the confessional 501 00:23:14,544 --> 00:23:17,104 Speaker 3: she was talking about her real feelings. But then back 502 00:23:17,144 --> 00:23:18,824 Speaker 3: with the group is where she kind of shifted the 503 00:23:18,864 --> 00:23:21,424 Speaker 3: conversation away and tried to push it and like really 504 00:23:21,504 --> 00:23:24,584 Speaker 3: dismiss the sexual comment he had made, to focus a 505 00:23:24,624 --> 00:23:27,184 Speaker 3: bit more on the photo ranking challenge and downplay it. 506 00:23:27,224 --> 00:23:29,304 Speaker 3: And I kind of understand because also she has to 507 00:23:29,384 --> 00:23:30,944 Speaker 3: go back to a room with this man, do you 508 00:23:31,024 --> 00:23:33,304 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like they're still in this experiment together, 509 00:23:33,664 --> 00:23:35,184 Speaker 3: she has to go back and be with him behind 510 00:23:35,264 --> 00:23:38,664 Speaker 3: closed doors and obviously like they've been intimate and having 511 00:23:38,744 --> 00:23:41,064 Speaker 3: sex behind the scenes, which is a whole different layer 512 00:23:41,144 --> 00:23:43,984 Speaker 3: to just filming a TV show with someone. So there's 513 00:23:43,984 --> 00:23:45,824 Speaker 3: an extra layer there of like I'm just saying like 514 00:23:45,824 --> 00:23:48,544 Speaker 3: I'm not excusing or anything, but I just I understand 515 00:23:48,584 --> 00:23:51,904 Speaker 3: that's a very complex situation. It's like normal reality like 516 00:23:51,984 --> 00:23:53,784 Speaker 3: on the Batchelor and stuff, where these people see each 517 00:23:53,824 --> 00:23:55,864 Speaker 3: other for ten minutes on a fake date with roses 518 00:23:55,904 --> 00:23:57,344 Speaker 3: on the floor, and then they go back to their 519 00:23:57,344 --> 00:23:59,104 Speaker 3: hotel rooms and they don't see each other again for 520 00:23:59,144 --> 00:24:01,264 Speaker 3: a week till they film again. It's so different to 521 00:24:01,304 --> 00:24:03,744 Speaker 3: people going back to a room where they're having sex 522 00:24:03,784 --> 00:24:05,744 Speaker 3: and living like a couple. I know all the couples are, 523 00:24:05,784 --> 00:24:06,784 Speaker 3: but these guys clearly are. 524 00:24:07,024 --> 00:24:09,384 Speaker 2: I also feel like so many people are applauding the 525 00:24:09,544 --> 00:24:12,784 Speaker 2: men at the dinner for like calling him out and stuff, 526 00:24:13,184 --> 00:24:15,384 Speaker 2: whereas I was like, you should have called him out 527 00:24:15,504 --> 00:24:17,784 Speaker 2: in that like therapist session where it's just a man, 528 00:24:17,824 --> 00:24:20,904 Speaker 2: Because now you're calling her out and saying like as 529 00:24:20,944 --> 00:24:23,184 Speaker 2: if you're okay with him saying that about you. I'm like, 530 00:24:23,224 --> 00:24:25,264 Speaker 2: why are you putting that on her? Yeah, you know 531 00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:27,744 Speaker 2: you're not big for doing that. You're just trying to 532 00:24:27,784 --> 00:24:29,664 Speaker 2: look good in front of your wives for doing that. 533 00:24:29,904 --> 00:24:31,864 Speaker 3: It's like they all have to go back to their 534 00:24:32,104 --> 00:24:34,864 Speaker 3: fake wives or their producers and sort of be like, 535 00:24:35,264 --> 00:24:37,544 Speaker 3: what he said was bad? Oh okay. Now of course 536 00:24:37,624 --> 00:24:39,384 Speaker 3: they need like a third party to tell them it 537 00:24:39,504 --> 00:24:41,344 Speaker 3: wasn't okay. I know that they weren't like kind of 538 00:24:41,384 --> 00:24:44,104 Speaker 3: all laughing in the moment, but they all came back. 539 00:24:43,944 --> 00:24:45,784 Speaker 2: To the party, and we don't know how it's edited. 540 00:24:45,904 --> 00:24:47,704 Speaker 3: Right, That's the thing. I mean, that's the thing about 541 00:24:47,704 --> 00:24:48,824 Speaker 3: reality TV, isn't it Like they. 542 00:24:48,744 --> 00:24:50,424 Speaker 2: Could all have been laughing and then you just like 543 00:24:50,504 --> 00:24:51,464 Speaker 2: picked up his money. 544 00:24:51,744 --> 00:24:54,384 Speaker 3: You have to film people saying things, like they still 545 00:24:54,424 --> 00:24:55,904 Speaker 3: have to say things to the camera for it to 546 00:24:55,944 --> 00:24:59,184 Speaker 3: be filmed. But we know that different reactions to different 547 00:24:59,264 --> 00:25:01,424 Speaker 3: moments can be shown. We know things can be shown 548 00:25:01,504 --> 00:25:04,144 Speaker 3: out of order, we know different things can be clipped together. 549 00:25:04,344 --> 00:25:05,864 Speaker 3: So it is hard to say, of like we're only 550 00:25:05,864 --> 00:25:08,664 Speaker 3: seeing this little snippet of how that all played out. 551 00:25:08,744 --> 00:25:11,464 Speaker 3: We could be seeing people's reactions from a totally different 552 00:25:11,504 --> 00:25:13,584 Speaker 3: moment in the night exactly. Yeah, it's hard to say, 553 00:25:13,664 --> 00:25:15,944 Speaker 3: But I think why a lot of women in particular 554 00:25:16,064 --> 00:25:18,864 Speaker 3: have had huge reactions to this scene is that, like 555 00:25:18,944 --> 00:25:20,424 Speaker 3: what we're saying at the top of the segment is 556 00:25:20,464 --> 00:25:23,424 Speaker 3: that it does so much play into this sphere of 557 00:25:23,544 --> 00:25:27,384 Speaker 3: what men say behind the scenes and what they say 558 00:25:27,424 --> 00:25:28,904 Speaker 3: were in their own groups together, and. 559 00:25:29,344 --> 00:25:31,184 Speaker 2: Which is like it's so different to what they could 560 00:25:31,224 --> 00:25:31,944 Speaker 2: be saying to your face. 561 00:25:32,104 --> 00:25:34,304 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And I think that's why these shows. That's 562 00:25:34,384 --> 00:25:36,584 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why people watch these shows, is like, yes, 563 00:25:36,624 --> 00:25:39,184 Speaker 3: they love the drama and the scandal, but it's like 564 00:25:39,264 --> 00:25:41,424 Speaker 3: this kind of mirror. Even sometimes I'm watching Maths and 565 00:25:41,504 --> 00:25:43,784 Speaker 3: I find it very uncomfortable to watch sometimes that sometimes 566 00:25:43,824 --> 00:25:46,824 Speaker 3: I'm like, you're watch it and you're like, it reflects reality. Yeah, 567 00:25:46,864 --> 00:25:48,584 Speaker 3: but you're like, is this it's just like seeing this 568 00:25:48,704 --> 00:25:51,104 Speaker 3: forbidden thing almost, It's like this is how men talk. 569 00:25:51,184 --> 00:25:53,704 Speaker 3: But then also this is a very particular group of men. 570 00:25:54,304 --> 00:25:56,184 Speaker 3: Like I mean, obviously I know some shitty men, so 571 00:25:56,344 --> 00:25:59,024 Speaker 3: many shitty men, but some of these are a particular 572 00:25:59,144 --> 00:26:02,224 Speaker 3: brand that I think sometimes they're the worst of the 573 00:26:02,304 --> 00:26:05,184 Speaker 3: worst in a sense, and they've come on the show 574 00:26:05,384 --> 00:26:07,264 Speaker 3: for this fame or to be, you know, to say 575 00:26:07,384 --> 00:26:10,104 Speaker 3: terrible things. And so I hope that, like not every group, 576 00:26:10,464 --> 00:26:13,104 Speaker 3: and he's talking like this, I have to believe that. Emily. 577 00:26:13,264 --> 00:26:15,824 Speaker 2: We have to thank you so much for listening to 578 00:26:15,904 --> 00:26:18,304 Speaker 2: the Spill today. We have a little present for you 579 00:26:18,504 --> 00:26:20,744 Speaker 2: because we're going to be doing Weekend Watch a bit 580 00:26:20,944 --> 00:26:23,984 Speaker 2: earlier this week, and we are releasing a Weekend Watch 581 00:26:24,024 --> 00:26:28,344 Speaker 2: special episode tomorrow morning. Within that episode, we also have 582 00:26:28,584 --> 00:26:31,024 Speaker 2: a bonus Weekend Watch for you. It's going to be 583 00:26:31,184 --> 00:26:34,104 Speaker 2: so good, so make sure you listen to that tomorrow 584 00:26:34,184 --> 00:26:37,984 Speaker 2: morning before our normal three pm episode drops. The Spill 585 00:26:38,104 --> 00:26:41,104 Speaker 2: is produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production by Scott Stronik, 586 00:26:41,144 --> 00:26:43,904 Speaker 2: and we'll be back here on your podcast feed tomorrow morning. 587 00:26:44,344 --> 00:26:45,104 Speaker 3: Bye bye.