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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell,
Speaker 2: and every week I talk to an expert who helps
Speaker 2: us work out how to get more out of the
Speaker 2: clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is
Speaker 2: and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Fashion trends are
Speaker 2: moving faster than ever before. One minute we're all in linen,
Speaker 2: the next denim or from Barbie Pinks to Cherry Reds.
Speaker 2: There is something new every single week to help us
Speaker 2: get to the bottom of the trends. We might be
Speaker 2: adding to our wardrobe and some we can forget about.
Speaker 2: I have a very spare a sure guests joining me.
Speaker 2: If you're a longtime listener of the show, you might
Speaker 2: remember Tamara Holland. She co hosted What Are You Wearing?
Speaker 2: Before going on maternity leave. Tam is a fashion editor
Speaker 2: and writer and now very excitedly back doing some work
Speaker 2: for Mamma Mia and I could not be happy out
Speaker 2: to have her join me on the show today. Tam Hi,
Speaker 2: Hi Hi. Firstly, welcome to the show. It is so
Speaker 2: nice to see your face on a screen. After so
Speaker 2: long I've been watching you on Socials and you used
Speaker 2: to host Mama MEA's other fashion podcast. Indeed, now you
Speaker 2: are joining me, and I'm so excited because I think
Speaker 2: we're going to get you on semi regularly because you
Speaker 2: have such great commentary and insight into fashion. Now, before
Speaker 2: we get into what we're talking about these trends this week,
Speaker 2: I want to ask you some personal questions. Can you
Speaker 2: describe your style in three words? And what are those
Speaker 2: three words?
Speaker 3: Tricky At the moment, I would say it's probably more
Speaker 3: toddler proof chic. I'd say it's probably more relaxed but refined.
Speaker 3: Love it, but you know, relaxed with polish. That's free
Speaker 3: words too, that kind of thing. Definitely comfort first, but yeah,
Speaker 3: relaxed yet refined.
Speaker 2: Now, as they're saying, goes, there's a huge wardrobe full
Speaker 2: of clothes, or maybe a small wardrobe with clothes, but
Speaker 2: there's ten percent of the items.
Speaker 1: We own that just we wear on high rotation because
Speaker 1: they're reliable. What's your ten percent?
Speaker 3: A lot of loungewear at the moment, A lot of loungewear.
Speaker 3: I'm still in relatively new mum modes. So it's like
Speaker 3: I said, it's definitely comfort first. Lots of nitpants and
Speaker 3: oversized shirts and sweats. That's what I'm wearing as we record.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a way to still do that
Speaker 3: in an elevated way. It's like COVID happened. Everyone got
Speaker 3: into lounge where people got over it. I never got
Speaker 3: over it. I'm still doing it. Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 2: Now your life stage kind of just continued in that
Speaker 2: home situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm definitely into a good jacket though, because I
Speaker 3: find that a really great jacket.
Speaker 1: And what do you mean by jacket? Are we a blazer?
Speaker 1: Are we coat? Are we all of the above? All
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 3: Above and overcoat? A bomber jacket that's for me is
Speaker 3: like a core piece, a key piece that I look
Speaker 3: out for, whatever the silhouette is, whatever the style that
Speaker 3: helps me feel pulled together, if I'm wearing lounge or
Speaker 3: if i'm wearing danim underneath, so casual underneath, and then
Speaker 3: a nice elevated jacket to make me feel like I
Speaker 3: can leave the house and feel good about my outfit.
Speaker 2: Now, listen, we're going to talk micro trends, because trends
Speaker 2: have never moved this fast. Instagram and TikTok are to blame.
Speaker 2: It's all their fault. So we've each brought a few
Speaker 2: to discuss and you know, pros and cons, whether we're
Speaker 2: into it, whether we're not.
Speaker 1: So should we get started.
Speaker 3: I'm raring to go. I've brought a few.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I have brought what they're calling the preppy handbooks.
Speaker 2: So I read a great article on wwd dot com.
Speaker 2: It's basically that preppy is back, and it's not that
Speaker 2: preppee ever went anywhere, but it's kind of it's joining
Speaker 2: the zeitgeist and the culture in that it used to
Speaker 2: be sort of think like college varsity vibes, but now
Speaker 2: it's that meat sport jersey, but then stripes. It's a
Speaker 2: little pleated skirt and there's a brand a reference in
Speaker 2: the article called Rowing Blazers. I'm online at the moment,
Speaker 2: but it's very that it's a polo collar with a
Speaker 2: little emblem. It's stripes. It's what you think when you
Speaker 2: think preppy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, rowing blazer that brings up a very sort of
Speaker 3: collegiate sort of aesthetic for me. It's giving like all
Speaker 3: the boys I dated in high school. Absolutely, I think
Speaker 3: I'm actually channeling it today in my outfit. I'm wearing
Speaker 3: a striped sweater green and beige, and that's kind of
Speaker 3: channeling that I actually reckon. This rugby jumper thing has
Speaker 3: already gone past micro and I found this on the
Speaker 3: high streets, so I would say this is almost in
Speaker 3: the main street now.
Speaker 1: I brought some items along to talk about.
Speaker 3: Well, please share with the group.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, there's a pleated skirt from H and M.
Speaker 2: It comes in a gray mile and also of black.
Speaker 2: It's twenty seven ninety nine. It's a mini skirt. It's
Speaker 2: very playing netball, if you were very very sheet playing netball.
Speaker 3: This is the mew Meal effect, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Lee.
Speaker 3: Really, it's just if one brand is responsible for bringing
Speaker 3: preppy back number one brand in the world right now,
Speaker 3: and they have the ability to change the way that
Speaker 3: everyone dresses with one runway show, and we've certainly seen that.
Speaker 3: I think they sort of set the new PREPPI trend
Speaker 3: must be a year ago now that that show happened,
Speaker 3: And that's, really, like you said, entered the zeitgeist in
Speaker 3: a major way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's elevated preppy too. I think individually these
Speaker 2: pieces can just be staples, but I think put together
Speaker 2: in a certain aesthetic, it definitely speaks preppy. They've also
Speaker 2: got h and M again. Short shoulder pad jacket. This
Speaker 2: is kind of like a cropped bomber on the website.
Speaker 2: She styled it with some beautiful depleted wide leg pants.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say necessarily preppy on its own, but definitely
Speaker 2: could be styled for that esthetic.
Speaker 1: Then there's the design detail. Padded jacket.
Speaker 2: This is very sort of college but almost goes into
Speaker 2: that sort of sporty, rugby, almost moto kind of jacket
Speaker 2: vibes and Zara. Funnily enough, if you search preppy in
Speaker 2: the search bar, you get one hundred results.
Speaker 3: So surprise, Sarah would be all over this like a rash.
Speaker 2: Yes, High Street is definitely where it's at. If you
Speaker 2: want to buy into this trend, are you into it?
Speaker 3: I mean, as you can see, I'm wearing it already,
Speaker 3: I'm into it. I think we're all powerless to resist this.
Speaker 3: I saw an article on l I think it was
Speaker 3: the other day that called this the rich girl aesthetic,
Speaker 3: rich girl energy, and I don't love that term. I
Speaker 3: think that's a bit problematic. But it's this whole dressing
Speaker 3: like a private schoolgirl, or it's the old money aesthetic.
Speaker 3: This is a continuation, like a bit more of a
Speaker 3: kitschy fun continuation of the quiet luxury.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit more fun.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: It feels a bit young for me head to toe.
Speaker 2: But the pieces individually that we're seeing in this trend
Speaker 2: are actually just kind of some really great basics, Like
Speaker 2: you say, a stripe or a little pleat skirt. If
Speaker 2: you want to do a pleat you can do it
Speaker 2: like a midi and make that yeah, maybe you would
Speaker 2: be cute, or even a sport for some time.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a few sports around a skirt meets short
Speaker 3: and it does bring back netball for me, Like it's
Speaker 3: very netball in a chik way.
Speaker 2: Not into head to toe preppy. But I like the pieces, tam. Yes,
Speaker 2: the first one you're bringing is thongs with fancy outfits.
Speaker 2: Please elaborate and we must preface. If we've got any
Speaker 2: American listeners, we mean flip flops. We don't mean strings.
Speaker 3: Yes, although if you look at what Charlie XCX is
Speaker 3: wearing right now thongs in that you know g strings
Speaker 3: are trending.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: However, for the purposes of this podcast, I am not
Speaker 3: talking about underwear. I'm talking about footwear. Yes, so all
Speaker 3: the cool girls lee are wearing thongs. They're wearing flip flops,
Speaker 3: but it's leather or rubber flip flops. The reason I
Speaker 3: say with fancy outfits is because it's this kind of
Speaker 3: approach of I'm wearing a really elevated minimal outfit. However
Speaker 3: I've just thrown on are really barely their sandal. It's
Speaker 3: the complete opposite of this chunky footwear trend we've had
Speaker 3: for season after season.
Speaker 1: So five years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fashion loves to cycle its silhouettes in and out,
Speaker 3: so things get bigger, things get smaller, things get oversized,
Speaker 3: and then they get mini again. This is just fashion
Speaker 3: doing its thing.
Speaker 2: And when you say thong, are we talking literally between
Speaker 2: the toe those two straps like that classic current.
Speaker 3: You could literally bring out your old habanas for this.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you the designer that's being credited to
Speaker 3: bringing back the flip flop is The Row by the
Speaker 3: Olsen Twins.
Speaker 1: So I googled that. Do you recall the price.
Speaker 3: The Rose Beach flip flop as they call it, is
Speaker 3: around sixteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Aud I saw a really good pair in bigw for
Speaker 1: about five bucks.
Speaker 3: Every five bucks I saw those too. I'm like, it's
Speaker 3: giving inaccessible guys like read the room. So if you
Speaker 3: want to channel this look, it's, like you say, it's
Speaker 3: a lot easier than spending fifteen sixteen hundred bucks to
Speaker 3: get the Row look. We recently saw Kendall Jenner. She
Speaker 3: loves a more minimal.
Speaker 1: She's pretty clic style.
Speaker 3: She is I think her stylist is Danny Michelle, and
Speaker 3: she puts together really effortless simple pieces. A lot of
Speaker 3: them are by the Row, and she's been wearing this shoe.
Speaker 3: We saw a step out of New York in a
Speaker 3: really simple slip skirt worn back with a tank and
Speaker 3: with the Row thongs, and I love that for summer.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a really easy way to do
Speaker 3: this look. And whether you're throwing on a little jacket
Speaker 3: over the top or you're just you know, a little
Speaker 3: knit over your shoulder.
Speaker 1: You could even put your varsity bomber that wo'd still work.
Speaker 3: Yes, a bomber would be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as someone in their forties who has so many
Speaker 2: pairs of heels but only can face wearing a kitten heel,
Speaker 2: I will take a flat shoe any day of the
Speaker 2: week if I can make it look good. And so
Speaker 2: I'm here for this. I'm into it.
Speaker 3: I love it all right? What's your next Trendly?
Speaker 2: Ultra sustainable fashion? Things are getting silly everybody. Kate Blanchette
Speaker 2: wore a top. I mean, she looks good in a
Speaker 2: paper bag and she almost sort of wore a paper bag.
Speaker 2: She wore a top made out of spoons.
Speaker 3: It's literally made spoons sauced from the Swedish countryside.
Speaker 2: One hundred and two silver spoons. I think it looks
Speaker 2: good on a red carpet. I don't think we're going
Speaker 2: to see the likes of Mango and Zara doing a
Speaker 2: spoon dupe top, do you.
Speaker 3: I am going to count of that and say I
Speaker 3: actually do. And it's ironic because the whole point of
Speaker 3: this look and the whole point of Kate's sort of
Speaker 3: fashion ethos is to be sustainable and rewar and repurpose
Speaker 3: old red carpet looks she wore ten twenty years ago
Speaker 3: and bring them a new lease of life. And this
Speaker 3: is like the ultimate version of that. I say it's
Speaker 3: ironic because that might be her fashion crusade. But then
Speaker 3: I do think we're going to see the trickle down
Speaker 3: effect of this on the high street with tops that
Speaker 3: look like they're made out of bits and pieces from
Speaker 3: your kitchen draw We're going to get metallic. We're going
Speaker 3: to get sort of the filtered down version of this,
Speaker 3: which is not maybe made sustainably at all.
Speaker 1: No, probably not.
Speaker 3: Ironically, I hope that it kicks off a bit of
Speaker 3: a trend for found objects working their way into fashion.
Speaker 3: I believe that this label that made the top, that's
Speaker 3: their whole bit. That's what they do is they reclaim
Speaker 3: and they refashion things into theture. I mean, for me,
Speaker 3: this is very like Project Runway Challenge.
Speaker 1: Yes me too.
Speaker 3: All right, you got two hours take the entire contents
Speaker 3: of your kitchen covered and turn into theture. But I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 2: Another one in this vein quickly is so people are
Speaker 2: wearing soft toys everywhere We were seeing it so much
Speaker 2: at the Copenhagen Fashion Week, Like I'm talking yes, squishmellows.
Speaker 2: Like I'm looking at a picture right now and my
Speaker 2: son has the baby shark that is on this man.
Speaker 1: Bikini's made out of soft toys. Bags made out of
Speaker 1: soft toys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look little bag charms with it, like a Donald
Speaker 2: Duck and a soft toy. I can go there. I
Speaker 2: liked the bag charms back in the day. But it's
Speaker 2: like Hello, Kitty, Donald Duck, Minie Mouse. Copenhagen is a
Speaker 2: place I've not been. I don't know if they're really
Speaker 2: into kind of wacky fashion.
Speaker 3: I mean it works for me because I've got a
Speaker 3: couple here I can chuck them. Look. The soft toy thing,
Speaker 3: I think is an interesting one. It's been around a bit.
Speaker 3: We have the very controversial Balenciaga collection with the teddy Bears.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, kind of kicked off the appetite for soft
Speaker 3: toys as accessories. I think it was their SS twenty
Speaker 3: four show where we had the designer Demna did handbags
Speaker 3: that were pre distressed that had all sorts of key
Speaker 3: rings and choch keys and things hanging off them, and
Speaker 3: I think the bag charm thing is going to be massive.
Speaker 3: I think we're going to see this everywhere. We've also
Speaker 3: got Luave has done. They've got their little elephant motif
Speaker 3: and it's a little key charm you can get. I'm
Speaker 3: sure some of the other luxury brands have their own
Speaker 3: versions of this. I think Coach does this as well.
Speaker 3: It's kind of throwing to like a harajuku sure, with
Speaker 3: collecting soft toys and putting them all over your clothes
Speaker 3: and accessories. So I can definitely see how this has
Speaker 3: blown up.
Speaker 1: Okay, milkmaid, tell me what is this?
Speaker 3: It's not just milkmaid and I'm bringing to the table lea.
Speaker 3: It's Swedish milkmade. Okay, So you might have seen this
Speaker 3: cottage core aesthetic hanging around. Cottage core is really like
Speaker 3: rustic femininity. It's sort of puffy sleeve dresses and gingham
Speaker 3: and sandals with socks and that kind of country style.
Speaker 3: In Copenhagen for fashion week, they were wearing clothes that
Speaker 3: looked like aprons or literally aprons over jeans. So it's that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I had a little look at what's on
Speaker 3: the market at the moment, and you can see there's
Speaker 3: an Australian brand called Venroy that's done this linen skirt
Speaker 3: that's like an apron esque cut, and I can see
Speaker 3: it's linen and it's got to split at the front
Speaker 3: and it's a tie at the side. It's things that
Speaker 3: you can tie up and sort of chuck over your
Speaker 3: other clothes to give this look that you might be
Speaker 3: going and you know, milking cow or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yes, headscarves, I've seen some beautiful headscarves.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think one of the key elements of this
Speaker 3: look or the real hero accessory is a bandanna or headscarf. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're seeing that in a major way. It's been a
Speaker 3: while since we had bandannas, Lee, would you do one?
Speaker 3: Are you gonna wear one?
Speaker 2: I don't think I could do a bandanna. Out of
Speaker 2: this kind of vibe. For me, I'm feeling like basket bags.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like the most that I would lean
Speaker 2: into it is kind of like a Sunday market bag.
Speaker 2: I mean, really, let's face it, in there will be
Speaker 2: my iPhone and my tampons. But I'd like to think
Speaker 2: that I wander around in green grass and then you know,
Speaker 2: pick something and eat at a strawberry.
Speaker 1: I don't know it's a bit robbery. It's a bit too.
Speaker 2: Sort of girly feminine for me personally, because I've just
Speaker 2: gone from quite masculine androgynous and now I'm getting into
Speaker 2: the sort of silk satin feminine vibes. But this feels
Speaker 2: a bit too like doll. I like looking at it
Speaker 2: on other people. I wanted to bring blanket stitch because
Speaker 2: I observed it in a lot of places in winter,
Speaker 2: but now I've seen it's coming into some summer items
Speaker 2: which I thought were interesting. So to illustrate what blanket
Speaker 2: stitch is, or sometimes called contrast stitch, but blanket stitch
Speaker 2: is a little bit thicker. Think of those mez throws
Speaker 2: for your couch that are exorbitantly expensive, and then every
Speaker 2: store's kind of.
Speaker 1: Ripped it off.
Speaker 2: It's a contrasting color of like wool. So say the
Speaker 2: item's gray, the stitch is in black or white. Okay,
Speaker 2: Totem did. This is when I first fell in love,
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna pay this much money, but Totem
Speaker 2: did and still do. It's what's called the draped fringe
Speaker 2: wool blend jacket. I'm obsessed with the olive green and
Speaker 2: then the blanket stitch around the edge is like a cream.
Speaker 2: It's been around for centuries and it kind of is
Speaker 2: a bit of that quiet luxury. It looks handmade, it
Speaker 2: looks good quality. Atmoson here on the Iconic have done it.
Speaker 2: They've got the n a blanket stitch jumper. And then
Speaker 2: I've been watching some spring summer start to drop and
Speaker 2: Asos has a blanket stitch card. Again, it's like a
Speaker 2: sleeveless vest and they've got that in a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of colors, creams, lighter colors. So I do think this
Speaker 2: blanket contrast stitch will continue. Then I saw seeds brand
Speaker 2: new Sasha trim slide and they're like that kind of
Speaker 2: classic chunkier black buckles. But then the stitching around the
Speaker 2: edge is the white contrast.
Speaker 3: Gorgeous. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then on Maya there's a swimwear brand called Chloe
Speaker 2: and Lola and they've got a star called the Bonnie
Speaker 2: Crochet Swimsuit in black, and it's literally a black swimsuit
Speaker 2: with this contrast stitching around our legs and the bust.
Speaker 3: So it's hitting everything. It's accessories, it's swimwear, it's home weares,
Speaker 3: it's everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it obviously started in home weares, but I just
Speaker 2: thought it was purely a winter trends, so that's why
Speaker 2: I kept my eye on it.
Speaker 3: But someone like you, who's like the consumate minimalist in
Speaker 3: what you wear, the whole embroidery crochet thing wouldn't be
Speaker 3: for you, right, Like, You're not going to wear like
Speaker 3: granny bright crochet rug I'm not, No, I actually would
Speaker 3: like I like, I do that back with like a
Speaker 3: gene because I'm like a bow bird. I'm attracted to
Speaker 3: the color. But you're more of a minimalist, and so
Speaker 3: this is kind of the way to do that. Artisanal, handmade, touchal.
Speaker 1: It is the perfect and we.
Speaker 3: Get in, so to speak, weave it into your outfit
Speaker 3: without feeling like you've worn a granny blanket. Yes, I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: give me the granny blanket. I want to wear it.
Speaker 2: It's Etsy, but it's not. It's high street, feels and
Speaker 2: looks a bit handmade. But there's still just touches for
Speaker 2: the minimalist. So keep an eye on that, my friends.
Speaker 2: I am predicting that blanket stitch will be around all
Speaker 2: spring summer, which is pretty unusual. Okay, before we get
Speaker 2: into bougie and budget tam You would not even give
Speaker 2: me a little sneak peek as style last time.
Speaker 3: No sneaky, sneaky, I am hitting you with a surprise trend.
Speaker 3: Two words Campbell pedal pushes.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I knew it?
Speaker 2: Did you know?
Speaker 3: Did you know? It was Cabri pats.
Speaker 2: Last summer, I did the denim jaws, quite enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: I did a Bermuda short, which is kind of like
Speaker 2: a wide leg, longer short to the knee.
Speaker 3: You were into the Bermuda's, That's right, I was into
Speaker 3: the Bermuda were inspiring me with those looks.
Speaker 2: Yep, I just bought some new ones from Zari in
Speaker 2: like a beautiful kind of royal Navy. Anyway, I just
Speaker 2: I'm speechless because I have pedal push of vibes back
Speaker 2: in my memory from when I was a lateeen early twenties,
Speaker 2: and they were tight and cropped just under the knee.
Speaker 3: In the naughties, we all wore like black knee length legging.
Speaker 3: Do you remember under tunic and skirts. Okay, this is
Speaker 3: a little more elevated than that, but it kind of
Speaker 3: it still is that same silhouette and so it's tight
Speaker 3: as in tight tight. We literally saw Kim Kardashian wear
Speaker 3: tights cut off at the knee tights on her Instagram.
Speaker 3: So once Kim's done it, it's like, all right, it's happening.
Speaker 3: But the fashion look, I'm not sure if you follow
Speaker 3: Leandro medein poem on Instagram, she is very extreme in
Speaker 3: terms of the trends that she will try. She's a
Speaker 3: real fashion experimentalist.
Speaker 2: And she well, her website was man Repella, Man, like,
Speaker 2: what is she wearing? She's about Terry Bradshaw.
Speaker 3: It's very fashioned, man Repella, Yeah, very fashioned. But she's
Speaker 3: been wearing capri pants all around New York and doing
Speaker 3: it in her very unique way. But we're going to
Speaker 3: see these it's more of that kind of fifties retro
Speaker 3: sort of style of the you know, the black or
Speaker 3: the denim capri pants. I was going to say, adding
Speaker 3: just at the knee.
Speaker 2: I've seen a little bit of like white it almost
Speaker 2: looks like white skinny jeans that have been cut off
Speaker 2: at the knee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm seeing a lot of black, like a
Speaker 3: lot of like a cigarette pant but hacked off at
Speaker 3: the knee. And it's it's this kind of Audrey Hepburn
Speaker 3: Marilyn fifties styling.
Speaker 2: Okay, fifties is bringing me around a little bit what footwear.
Speaker 3: Though I'm not bringing myself around like I think for
Speaker 3: a shorter woman like me, like anyone can wear anything,
Speaker 3: but the thought of something that cuts off at the
Speaker 3: knee is just like scary. If you're shorter, it's hard
Speaker 3: to approach because it feels like it's just going to
Speaker 3: cut you into.
Speaker 2: And I wasn't born with ankles, so I don't really
Speaker 2: need to accenterate, which I'm totally fine with. But when
Speaker 2: they got to my legs, they just went leg foot
Speaker 2: and so I just don't think that's my vibe unless
Speaker 2: I'm wearing sky high stilettos, which I don't do anymore.
Speaker 3: They actually do look really good with a kit in
Speaker 3: the heel. You don't want to be wearing these back
Speaker 3: with sneakers, back with anything that hits at the ankles,
Speaker 3: like an ankle strap on a shoe.
Speaker 1: You want to wear ankle boom?
Speaker 3: Yeah, with a wedge. Dare I say for a very
Speaker 3: y two Kody, I think Lee, we're going to see
Speaker 3: these everywhere.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to watch with interest because I say
Speaker 2: no now but I am a bit of a sheep.
Speaker 2: I'm a medium adopter, so's.
Speaker 3: A medium adoption. It's funny. I saw this trend and
Speaker 3: I thought you would actually wear this really well, so
Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see if and how you do.
Speaker 3: It's very expensive.
Speaker 2: I wondred. Okay, Bougie and budget the best part of
Speaker 2: the week. We have kind of been inspired by these
Speaker 2: trends and brought an item for each one bougie one
Speaker 2: budget of something we would wear. So do you want
Speaker 2: to start, tam, Why don't we start with your budget.
Speaker 2: Let's go budget first, all right?
Speaker 3: For my budget, we spoke about flip flops at length,
Speaker 3: and I mentioned Havianas and they are known for doing
Speaker 3: the quintessential rubber thong that we all wore back in
Speaker 3: the day. But they've actually updated their flip flop with
Speaker 3: a square toe design. Oh it feels yeah, I know,
Speaker 3: it feels a little bit more current and a little
Speaker 3: bit more fashion forward. They're called the Slim Square Toe Songs,
Speaker 3: and I would suggest, yes, you need these in black
Speaker 3: forty five dollars.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that tiny toe reshape makes such
Speaker 2: a difference.
Speaker 1: It's very good. Thongs are back and the ones I'm
Speaker 1: looking at.
Speaker 2: The rubber bit that kind of goes between your toes
Speaker 2: is slimmer than that traditional traditional having on only by
Speaker 2: what half a centimeter maybe, but it's that slimmer bit
Speaker 2: more makes a difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like, if you want to get that
Speaker 3: look of the row without spending you know, fifteen hundred bucks,
Speaker 3: I would buy yourself a par of these.
Speaker 2: So my budget is back on the contrast top stitching,
Speaker 2: blanket stitch vibes. It's a Zara cardigan. I know we're
Speaker 2: heading into spring, but I love a cardigan for spring.
Speaker 2: It's called the Nit cardigan with contrast top stitching, very
Speaker 2: original seventy nine ninety five. It's a v neck cream
Speaker 2: cardigan with con Trust black buttons and then big sort
Speaker 2: of pockets at the side with the contrast stitching and
Speaker 2: then contrast stitching around the bottom. I love it because
Speaker 2: I like a cardigan with like an oversized like denim short.
Speaker 2: I like it open for travel. I just think cardigans
Speaker 2: are really good for trans seasonal chucking in your bag
Speaker 2: if your office is sometimes hot or sometimes cold, and
Speaker 2: the cream color kind of lends itself to warmer months.
Speaker 3: I'm heavily influenced by this lee. This is absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 3: I love the idea of wearing a cardigan with no
Speaker 3: top underneath, just like as a top, yes, and tucking
Speaker 3: it into your genes.
Speaker 1: All right, what's your bougie, my friend?
Speaker 3: So I've gone for another song, another flip flop, but
Speaker 3: slightly more elevated investment piece to tell me, then you Havevianas.
Speaker 3: So if you want to do the more luxe version
Speaker 3: of the flip flop, I would suggest looking to an
Speaker 3: emerging Australian footwear brand called a Emery.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love this brand.
Speaker 3: So they just do the best minimal leather sandals, and
Speaker 3: I can attest to the quality. I've bought a few pairs.
Speaker 3: I mean, they have been around for a couple of
Speaker 3: years now I feel like they've really hit the ride now.
Speaker 3: So I found a really beautiful, simple black leather flip
Speaker 3: flop called the Kinto Sandal and it's one hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy dollars, so it's more on the spendy end of
Speaker 3: a flip flop that it is leather.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was looking at a few brands and I think
Speaker 2: they've got some more expensive styles like three four hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: so I reckon that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: It's a good price point, So those are probably the
Speaker 3: ones that I'm going to be buying.
Speaker 2: I was also influenced by your thong flip flop chat,
Speaker 2: so I've seen a pair.
Speaker 1: They're more expensive than yours.
Speaker 2: Actually on Dish they're called the Doff Studios Nadia sandal
Speaker 2: in Black. They are a black leather thong flip flop
Speaker 2: whatever we're going to call them, made in Italy.
Speaker 1: The straps slightly thicker.
Speaker 2: They're not a chunky shoe, and that the sole's thin,
Speaker 2: but the strap that's your thong is like three centimeters
Speaker 2: so they're gonna hold on. You don't have to do
Speaker 2: that full on grippy grip.
Speaker 3: Oh that's true. Were you grip with your tongue?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: I love what that feels like.
Speaker 2: And when you have to like break your feet in
Speaker 2: for thongs again each summer because you're.
Speaker 3: Not just nostalgic. I've forgot, honestly forgotten what it feels
Speaker 3: like to wear thongs. But you're right. Do you have
Speaker 3: to do a little pigeon grip with your toes?
Speaker 2: You do until your feet get used to it. I
Speaker 2: love these so yeah, they're one ninety nine to ninety five.
Speaker 2: So I believe that Doff Studios is a brand that
Speaker 2: dish stocks in terms of footwear. They're just really great
Speaker 2: and half the sizes are sold out. Yeah at price
Speaker 2: of recording. I'm sure they'll restock because they look really popular.
Speaker 2: They're just a classic and I reckon you'd have them
Speaker 2: for years if you.
Speaker 1: Look after them.
Speaker 3: Or gee, what a find, Tam.
Speaker 2: That was an absolute delight. I feel like in the
Speaker 2: three weeks time there will be more micro trends that
Speaker 2: you'll have to explain to me. So I would love
Speaker 2: if you would join me again soon.
Speaker 3: I would be honored. It's been such a blast, great
Speaker 3: to be on the show.
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