1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,465 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,985 --> 00:00:17,505 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,345 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:20,545 --> 00:00:22,105 Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy. 5 00:00:22,305 --> 00:00:25,505 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel. 6 00:00:25,345 --> 00:00:26,105 Speaker 1: Guilty about it. 7 00:00:28,545 --> 00:00:31,465 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to You Beauty, the daily podcast for 8 00:00:31,545 --> 00:00:31,985 Speaker 2: Your Face. 9 00:00:32,025 --> 00:00:33,985 Speaker 1: I'm Lee Camill, I'm Kelly mccaren. 10 00:00:34,025 --> 00:00:34,865 Speaker 2: How are you, my friend? 11 00:00:35,105 --> 00:00:37,505 Speaker 1: I'm so good because I'm sitting here with you and 12 00:00:37,545 --> 00:00:39,545 Speaker 1: we're going to answer some beauty questions. 13 00:00:39,545 --> 00:00:42,265 Speaker 2: We sure are on Monday. We answer questions you have 14 00:00:42,385 --> 00:00:43,825 Speaker 2: asked us so. 15 00:00:44,225 --> 00:00:45,985 Speaker 1: That we don't just pull them out of a hash 16 00:00:45,985 --> 00:00:47,545 Speaker 1: and hope for the best sort of do. 17 00:00:47,705 --> 00:00:50,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're in a document. You should see the documentary. 18 00:00:50,505 --> 00:00:53,145 Speaker 2: I've got every question you've been asked in the seven 19 00:00:53,305 --> 00:00:54,505 Speaker 2: years of You Beauty. 20 00:00:54,305 --> 00:00:56,385 Speaker 1: And there's like weird tabs where you've got a click 21 00:00:56,425 --> 00:00:58,225 Speaker 1: if it's being used or where it came to. I 22 00:00:58,225 --> 00:01:00,345 Speaker 1: don't like the doctor. I like the document. Thank you 23 00:01:00,425 --> 00:01:02,745 Speaker 1: for not much of a spreadsheet? Gal, So I don't 24 00:01:02,825 --> 00:01:03,145 Speaker 1: like it. 25 00:01:03,385 --> 00:01:04,705 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't either, but I don't have to 26 00:01:04,705 --> 00:01:07,585 Speaker 2: put it together. Speaking of questions, what are we doing today? 27 00:01:07,665 --> 00:01:10,025 Speaker 1: All right? So, later on the episode, we have got 28 00:01:10,025 --> 00:01:12,905 Speaker 1: a question about the best products to use post keratin treatment, 29 00:01:12,905 --> 00:01:14,785 Speaker 1: and thank the Lord, one of his has had a 30 00:01:14,825 --> 00:01:17,865 Speaker 1: carotin treatment because I was like being bong no idea. 31 00:01:17,905 --> 00:01:21,225 Speaker 1: But first Teagan has asked, I have a question about 32 00:01:21,225 --> 00:01:24,305 Speaker 1: pre travel treatments. I'm off on a very special holiday 33 00:01:24,305 --> 00:01:27,265 Speaker 1: to celebrate a significant birthday in the mal Dives in January. 34 00:01:27,545 --> 00:01:29,865 Speaker 1: I want to be as minimal as possible while I'm there, 35 00:01:29,905 --> 00:01:32,825 Speaker 1: so I don't plan on taking much beyond an excellent sunscreen, 36 00:01:32,905 --> 00:01:36,065 Speaker 1: good moisturizer and vitamin C to boost my sunscreen. However, 37 00:01:36,385 --> 00:01:39,425 Speaker 1: it is a significant birthday in an amazing location, so 38 00:01:39,465 --> 00:01:42,225 Speaker 1: I would like to look somewhat presentable while I'm there 39 00:01:42,345 --> 00:01:44,665 Speaker 1: before I'm jetting off. I was thinking about a spray tan, 40 00:01:44,985 --> 00:01:47,905 Speaker 1: but what other easy treatments would you consider prior to holiday? 41 00:01:48,065 --> 00:01:49,905 Speaker 1: Would a lash, tint and lift give me the look 42 00:01:49,905 --> 00:01:53,105 Speaker 1: of wearing makeup without wearing makeup? A very dark lashes already, 43 00:01:53,105 --> 00:01:55,385 Speaker 1: so I've never considered a tint before, but one did 44 00:01:55,385 --> 00:01:58,145 Speaker 1: if it would give volume. I also heard Kelly recommend 45 00:01:58,185 --> 00:02:00,705 Speaker 1: a hair mask if swimming often. Which one would you 46 00:02:00,745 --> 00:02:03,785 Speaker 1: throw into your suitcase? Any help would be greatly appreciated. 47 00:02:03,825 --> 00:02:05,505 Speaker 1: Thanks for all the amazing advice. 48 00:02:05,905 --> 00:02:07,105 Speaker 2: Tea can take us with us. 49 00:02:07,145 --> 00:02:08,585 Speaker 1: I know I want to go to the mal Dives. 50 00:02:08,625 --> 00:02:12,025 Speaker 2: Yeah, ago, Okay, you can go with her and I'll 51 00:02:12,025 --> 00:02:15,785 Speaker 2: give you my tips. It's hot there, okay, and there's 52 00:02:15,825 --> 00:02:18,785 Speaker 2: nothing to do but swim and lounge, which is just 53 00:02:19,225 --> 00:02:22,065 Speaker 2: the most ideal holiday. Also, happy birthday. I'm sure you're 54 00:02:22,065 --> 00:02:22,665 Speaker 2: turning twenty. 55 00:02:22,785 --> 00:02:25,185 Speaker 1: I love that you just said the most ideal holiday 56 00:02:25,185 --> 00:02:27,465 Speaker 1: with a horrified look on your face. And I know 57 00:02:27,665 --> 00:02:29,785 Speaker 1: that you worked for most of that holiday because you 58 00:02:29,825 --> 00:02:30,425 Speaker 1: were anxious. 59 00:02:30,545 --> 00:02:33,905 Speaker 2: I just spent the entire holiday inside the bungalow on 60 00:02:33,945 --> 00:02:35,865 Speaker 2: my laptop because I was launching a beauty brand, and 61 00:02:35,905 --> 00:02:37,625 Speaker 2: also I don't lay it in the sun, and also 62 00:02:37,865 --> 00:02:40,625 Speaker 2: I have very bad ADHD. But if you are not 63 00:02:40,785 --> 00:02:42,265 Speaker 2: like me, if you were like my husband, you will 64 00:02:42,265 --> 00:02:44,905 Speaker 2: have the best time. So I thought back to what 65 00:02:44,945 --> 00:02:46,745 Speaker 2: I did. I had long hair at the time, and 66 00:02:46,825 --> 00:02:50,545 Speaker 2: I literally wore it slicked back, slicked back or air 67 00:02:50,625 --> 00:02:53,345 Speaker 2: dried and frizzy and who cares? And then I think 68 00:02:53,385 --> 00:02:54,825 Speaker 2: I did a bright leap if we were going to 69 00:02:54,865 --> 00:02:57,505 Speaker 2: a dinner like I literally just did tinted moisturize and 70 00:02:57,505 --> 00:03:00,585 Speaker 2: a bright lip, watch lip because you're not a huge 71 00:03:00,665 --> 00:03:03,745 Speaker 2: lip rarely wear ellipstick except for when I'm on holidays. 72 00:03:03,745 --> 00:03:06,025 Speaker 2: I don't know why. That's just my character. So maybe 73 00:03:06,025 --> 00:03:08,145 Speaker 2: look for something like you want long wear, but you. 74 00:03:08,065 --> 00:03:11,065 Speaker 1: Don't want dry, you don't want your character on holidays 75 00:03:11,185 --> 00:03:15,745 Speaker 1: is finally wear lipstick. My character on holidays is actual goblin. 76 00:03:16,105 --> 00:03:18,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, same, but the lipstick like pulls me back 77 00:03:18,425 --> 00:03:21,265 Speaker 2: to society. The Maybe Lene super Stay vinyl lip gloss 78 00:03:21,345 --> 00:03:25,185 Speaker 2: is really good. The Fency Beauty has a beautiful, long 79 00:03:25,305 --> 00:03:28,585 Speaker 2: lasting glossy juicy lip. Still I stay all day. They 80 00:03:28,585 --> 00:03:30,865 Speaker 2: do a beautiful like liquid lip. It doesn't have to 81 00:03:30,905 --> 00:03:32,905 Speaker 2: be long wearing. But if you're gonna be sipping cocktails 82 00:03:32,905 --> 00:03:34,905 Speaker 2: and it's like holidays, you don't really want to look 83 00:03:34,905 --> 00:03:37,225 Speaker 2: in the mirror. I do like a bright coral im 84 00:03:37,225 --> 00:03:39,505 Speaker 2: fine or like anything that doesn't make my lips look 85 00:03:39,505 --> 00:03:42,865 Speaker 2: really orange, anything that doesn't make my teeth look really yellow, 86 00:03:43,065 --> 00:03:46,665 Speaker 2: because orange, like if it's too peachy, the orange kind 87 00:03:46,705 --> 00:03:49,945 Speaker 2: of makes your teeth look more yellow. It's more blue based, 88 00:03:50,065 --> 00:03:53,185 Speaker 2: like something a bit more red. Yes, teeth look whieter. 89 00:03:53,305 --> 00:03:55,825 Speaker 2: And if you are gonna wear mascara, I mean I 90 00:03:55,905 --> 00:03:57,825 Speaker 2: don't know, but to a tubular, I was gonna say 91 00:03:57,825 --> 00:03:59,825 Speaker 2: do a tubula becase it'll only come off in warm water. 92 00:04:00,065 --> 00:04:02,945 Speaker 2: But just rock out, girl. You say lash lift and 93 00:04:03,025 --> 00:04:04,665 Speaker 2: lash tint, I don't reckon you need the tint if 94 00:04:04,665 --> 00:04:04,985 Speaker 2: you got. 95 00:04:04,985 --> 00:04:07,385 Speaker 1: Dark if you because it's not going to add more volume. 96 00:04:07,665 --> 00:04:10,745 Speaker 1: Not tint will definitely make you look like you've sort 97 00:04:10,745 --> 00:04:13,065 Speaker 1: of put that little bit of umph into you. Yeah. 98 00:04:13,105 --> 00:04:15,105 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got dark lushes, so you could do 99 00:04:15,185 --> 00:04:17,145 Speaker 2: a lash lift if you wanted to. You could even 100 00:04:17,185 --> 00:04:19,225 Speaker 2: get really subtle lush extensions. 101 00:04:19,465 --> 00:04:22,305 Speaker 1: Oh, I think people look like bin chickens after I agree. 102 00:04:22,385 --> 00:04:24,665 Speaker 2: But I saw someone very famous in the beauty industry. 103 00:04:24,665 --> 00:04:26,185 Speaker 2: I went so who the other day and I was like, 104 00:04:26,305 --> 00:04:28,585 Speaker 2: my goodness, you've got the most beautiful lushes. And she 105 00:04:28,665 --> 00:04:33,105 Speaker 2: said they're teeny tiny, really subtle lush extensions. Ah Like 106 00:04:33,505 --> 00:04:35,705 Speaker 2: literally just looked like great lushes. You could try that. 107 00:04:36,545 --> 00:04:37,985 Speaker 2: When you say you're going to get a spray tann, 108 00:04:38,105 --> 00:04:40,265 Speaker 2: great idea. I would get a spray tan with great 109 00:04:40,305 --> 00:04:42,705 Speaker 2: after care so I always get some escape because then 110 00:04:42,745 --> 00:04:45,345 Speaker 2: they've got a great moisturizer and that's also a tan extender, 111 00:04:45,425 --> 00:04:46,185 Speaker 2: like gradual tan. 112 00:04:46,465 --> 00:04:47,385 Speaker 1: Really good body butter. 113 00:04:47,425 --> 00:04:52,505 Speaker 2: That's obviously great for maintaining the spray Ton sunscreen is imperative, 114 00:04:52,545 --> 00:04:54,905 Speaker 2: as you have said, but that will also lift off 115 00:04:54,945 --> 00:04:56,625 Speaker 2: your tan a bit. But I don't know how long 116 00:04:56,625 --> 00:04:58,545 Speaker 2: you're going for, and you're probably no fuck's given by 117 00:04:58,545 --> 00:04:59,985 Speaker 2: the end of the trip truck. Actually it's like the 118 00:04:59,985 --> 00:05:01,465 Speaker 2: first few days you put in effort, then you're like, 119 00:05:01,505 --> 00:05:04,705 Speaker 2: I don't care. Correct, you could get your brows laminated 120 00:05:04,785 --> 00:05:07,865 Speaker 2: if you like, if they're quite bushy, yes, so mine 121 00:05:07,865 --> 00:05:09,785 Speaker 2: are very patchy, so I still have to f all 122 00:05:09,785 --> 00:05:12,665 Speaker 2: the men. Although I didn't. For hair removal, you could 123 00:05:12,705 --> 00:05:15,185 Speaker 2: get that really cool, like thin Kelly recommended a while 124 00:05:15,185 --> 00:05:15,625 Speaker 2: ago that. 125 00:05:15,865 --> 00:05:18,745 Speaker 1: It was the thanks to Nature crystal hair remove. It 126 00:05:18,785 --> 00:05:21,865 Speaker 1: was like a little egg thing that you just buff over. Yes, 127 00:05:21,945 --> 00:05:24,265 Speaker 1: and manicare does them too, like if you do, if you. 128 00:05:24,185 --> 00:05:27,065 Speaker 2: Haven't tried it on the pubes though, oh absolutely do 129 00:05:27,265 --> 00:05:28,265 Speaker 2: not use it in that air. 130 00:05:28,345 --> 00:05:29,625 Speaker 1: I'm going to other things. 131 00:05:29,705 --> 00:05:34,625 Speaker 2: She might want to consider xing, waxing slash. Just check 132 00:05:34,625 --> 00:05:36,985 Speaker 2: in your pubic area. I mean, get them out if 133 00:05:36,985 --> 00:05:39,265 Speaker 2: you want. But like sometimes I get on a holiday 134 00:05:39,265 --> 00:05:40,585 Speaker 2: and go, but don't have to grab my rais and 135 00:05:40,585 --> 00:05:41,185 Speaker 2: just get the side of the. 136 00:05:41,225 --> 00:05:43,905 Speaker 1: Side burns, like when you've looked down and you've just 137 00:05:43,945 --> 00:05:46,345 Speaker 1: got like actual side burns, and you're like. 138 00:05:46,745 --> 00:05:48,945 Speaker 2: If there's only a few, I tweeze them, but bloody 139 00:05:48,985 --> 00:05:49,425 Speaker 2: hell game. 140 00:05:49,665 --> 00:05:52,825 Speaker 1: And I feel like, as you get older the sideburn 141 00:05:53,025 --> 00:05:54,665 Speaker 1: why do they go so far down? 142 00:05:54,665 --> 00:05:58,985 Speaker 2: My lefe gray, which is good but okay, But also 143 00:05:59,105 --> 00:06:01,185 Speaker 2: I blame swimwork because they're getting smaller. 144 00:06:01,345 --> 00:06:03,465 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can take that because then you're not 145 00:06:03,545 --> 00:06:05,305 Speaker 1: going to get that post shaving rash. 146 00:06:05,425 --> 00:06:08,025 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I would just get a pedicure. I 147 00:06:08,145 --> 00:06:10,385 Speaker 2: always get like a gel pedicure before or a tropical 148 00:06:10,425 --> 00:06:13,265 Speaker 2: holiday because you've got the result. We went to no shoes, 149 00:06:13,305 --> 00:06:15,745 Speaker 2: a band, you got to dinner barefoot, you go everywhere. 150 00:06:16,025 --> 00:06:17,265 Speaker 1: That literally is my true. 151 00:06:17,385 --> 00:06:19,865 Speaker 2: It was so good, although I really needed a foot 152 00:06:19,905 --> 00:06:22,345 Speaker 2: for aile because it gets real quite like, yeah, all 153 00:06:22,345 --> 00:06:24,265 Speaker 2: this because they're always stuff. Yeah, so I would like 154 00:06:24,345 --> 00:06:29,145 Speaker 2: what I did was basically sunscreen tinted sunscreen, petty spray man. 155 00:06:29,305 --> 00:06:29,985 Speaker 2: That's all I did. 156 00:06:30,345 --> 00:06:32,585 Speaker 1: Also, I mean, we're going to talk about kerotin treatments 157 00:06:32,665 --> 00:06:34,465 Speaker 1: later on in the episode, if she could get a 158 00:06:34,545 --> 00:06:36,185 Speaker 1: carrotin treatment, because. 159 00:06:36,225 --> 00:06:38,705 Speaker 2: What your hair's like, it's mostly hair in tropical things 160 00:06:38,745 --> 00:06:39,305 Speaker 2: that bother me. 161 00:06:39,505 --> 00:06:41,025 Speaker 1: That's the thing. And you were saying that when your 162 00:06:41,065 --> 00:06:42,825 Speaker 1: hair was down and New Letter air edro if you'd 163 00:06:42,865 --> 00:06:44,145 Speaker 1: had the Kerotter treatment, it wouldn't have. 164 00:06:44,105 --> 00:06:46,145 Speaker 2: Been so true. But it is very hot there, particularly 165 00:06:46,145 --> 00:06:47,785 Speaker 2: in January, so you might just if it's long enough, 166 00:06:47,825 --> 00:06:50,345 Speaker 2: have it back. But you say, sunscreen, good moisturizer in 167 00:06:50,345 --> 00:06:52,665 Speaker 2: your vitamin see the booty sunscreen. You are a very 168 00:06:52,705 --> 00:06:54,225 Speaker 2: good up Tagan, you really are. 169 00:06:54,505 --> 00:06:57,545 Speaker 1: Anything else you reckon, well, I just wanted to say 170 00:06:57,665 --> 00:07:00,385 Speaker 1: about the hair masks because she's asked for recommendations. Literally, 171 00:07:00,505 --> 00:07:03,425 Speaker 1: when I say put a hair mask in anything, grab 172 00:07:03,665 --> 00:07:07,265 Speaker 1: whatever is on sale, because you're not worrying about it 173 00:07:07,345 --> 00:07:10,065 Speaker 1: too much. Or a conditioner or a conditioner. 174 00:07:09,945 --> 00:07:11,625 Speaker 2: Just basically what you're doing is putting it in your 175 00:07:11,825 --> 00:07:13,985 Speaker 2: hair before you go swimming in the ocean or the pool, 176 00:07:14,025 --> 00:07:15,705 Speaker 2: because it's then not going to dry your hair out 177 00:07:15,705 --> 00:07:15,985 Speaker 2: as much. 178 00:07:16,025 --> 00:07:18,185 Speaker 1: It's not going to just like suck up all of 179 00:07:18,305 --> 00:07:21,105 Speaker 1: that chlorine or salt or everything that makes it dry 180 00:07:21,185 --> 00:07:24,505 Speaker 1: and frizzy. It's just so whatever that you can find 181 00:07:24,625 --> 00:07:24,905 Speaker 1: is great. 182 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:27,265 Speaker 2: But I reckon you're just going to feel like relaxed 183 00:07:27,345 --> 00:07:29,905 Speaker 2: and breezy, and you'll feel beautiful just because you're. 184 00:07:29,865 --> 00:07:32,025 Speaker 1: Having a great time. There's also such a thing as 185 00:07:32,025 --> 00:07:32,705 Speaker 1: a holiday glow. 186 00:07:32,825 --> 00:07:33,305 Speaker 2: I agree. 187 00:07:34,105 --> 00:07:36,625 Speaker 1: I looked so hot for like a solid ten days 188 00:07:36,665 --> 00:07:37,625 Speaker 1: after I came back from my. 189 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:40,865 Speaker 2: Res It's true because just somehow your brain just goes, yeah, 190 00:07:40,905 --> 00:07:41,865 Speaker 2: I'm relaxed. 191 00:07:42,265 --> 00:07:43,145 Speaker 1: Hey, you have the best time? 192 00:07:43,305 --> 00:07:46,225 Speaker 2: Can you post some photos in the ubidi group today? 193 00:07:46,745 --> 00:07:50,065 Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we will talk about carroten treatments. 194 00:07:50,385 --> 00:07:51,465 Speaker 1: You haven't had it for a while. 195 00:07:51,345 --> 00:07:52,905 Speaker 2: But I haven't had it for a while, and I 196 00:07:53,025 --> 00:08:00,345 Speaker 2: am a desperate Okay, Sue has asked, hello there, I 197 00:08:00,505 --> 00:08:03,865 Speaker 2: have a Keraten smoothing treatment and bought some suggested keratin 198 00:08:03,945 --> 00:08:06,825 Speaker 2: shampoo and conditioner. Does anyone know of shampoos I can 199 00:08:06,945 --> 00:08:07,625 Speaker 2: use after this tree? 200 00:08:07,905 --> 00:08:09,825 Speaker 1: So talk to us about this because obviously I've never 201 00:08:09,865 --> 00:08:11,545 Speaker 1: had it done. Are there certain things that you can 202 00:08:11,625 --> 00:08:12,105 Speaker 1: and can't do? 203 00:08:12,745 --> 00:08:15,585 Speaker 2: Yes, guidelines, but like your head's not going to fall 204 00:08:15,625 --> 00:08:18,905 Speaker 2: off if you don't follow them. So I generally, although 205 00:08:18,905 --> 00:08:20,665 Speaker 2: I haven't for the last six months, get to what's 206 00:08:20,705 --> 00:08:23,865 Speaker 2: called Kerra Silk hair straightening. Kerry Silk is a brand 207 00:08:24,145 --> 00:08:26,465 Speaker 2: and they have two levels, so basically it just kind 208 00:08:26,505 --> 00:08:28,865 Speaker 2: of smooths the frizze. What they do is they applied 209 00:08:28,865 --> 00:08:31,105 Speaker 2: it that like hairdresser, like they're putting on a mask. 210 00:08:31,425 --> 00:08:33,465 Speaker 2: They dry your hair, then they straighten your hair, then 211 00:08:33,465 --> 00:08:35,665 Speaker 2: they wash it off. You go like old school Keraten. 212 00:08:35,745 --> 00:08:37,025 Speaker 1: Does it take though, oh now and a half. 213 00:08:37,065 --> 00:08:40,585 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, not long, Like it's basically like you're 214 00:08:40,585 --> 00:08:43,905 Speaker 2: getting your hair washed and then they straighten it and 215 00:08:43,945 --> 00:08:45,465 Speaker 2: then they wash it again to wash it out. It's 216 00:08:45,585 --> 00:08:47,585 Speaker 2: very quick, whereas back in the day it was hours 217 00:08:47,625 --> 00:08:49,305 Speaker 2: and hours. It was really stinky then. 218 00:08:49,225 --> 00:08:51,945 Speaker 1: You had and you weren't even allowed to put it 219 00:08:51,985 --> 00:08:53,865 Speaker 1: behind your ears when you were allowed to wash it. 220 00:08:54,025 --> 00:08:56,465 Speaker 2: So this one in particular that I've been having is 221 00:08:56,585 --> 00:09:00,345 Speaker 2: just super easy. But obviously with Keraten, when your hair grows, 222 00:09:00,425 --> 00:09:02,785 Speaker 2: your natural text will grow through, so it only lasts 223 00:09:02,785 --> 00:09:04,465 Speaker 2: as long as fast as your hair grows. But then 224 00:09:04,505 --> 00:09:05,105 Speaker 2: you just get the roots. 225 00:09:05,265 --> 00:09:08,145 Speaker 1: But alas Lee's hair grows faster than beneath things. 226 00:09:08,025 --> 00:09:11,785 Speaker 2: Haven't had time, but I particularly now humid, and it 227 00:09:11,865 --> 00:09:12,585 Speaker 2: really helps. 228 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:14,585 Speaker 1: Looking at your roots. And yeah, they're free day. 229 00:09:15,825 --> 00:09:18,505 Speaker 2: So the general recommendation, it's so nice for me to 230 00:09:18,585 --> 00:09:20,945 Speaker 2: point out, no, they are, trust me, mate. If I 231 00:09:20,985 --> 00:09:22,825 Speaker 2: could find the time to get there, I would do it. 232 00:09:23,105 --> 00:09:26,825 Speaker 2: The general recommendation is sulfate free a tampoo because that 233 00:09:26,905 --> 00:09:30,825 Speaker 2: can strip the keratin. Most color enhancing or color saving 234 00:09:30,865 --> 00:09:33,385 Speaker 2: products will be solfate free because they believe sulfate also 235 00:09:33,425 --> 00:09:36,625 Speaker 2: strips your color, which makes sense. Is solfate in clarifying 236 00:09:36,705 --> 00:09:41,185 Speaker 2: shampooz though oh yes, so yes sodium laurel. Solfate is 237 00:09:41,385 --> 00:09:44,905 Speaker 2: the main suffactant in body washer's hair shampoo like It's 238 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:48,265 Speaker 2: a great seffactant and very good at cleaning. I didn't 239 00:09:48,265 --> 00:09:50,545 Speaker 2: really follow these guidelines. I just used whatever I chopped 240 00:09:50,585 --> 00:09:53,665 Speaker 2: and changed and I didn't find any problem. However, I 241 00:09:53,745 --> 00:09:57,025 Speaker 2: chopped and changed because we trial products. This lovely person 242 00:09:57,225 --> 00:09:59,505 Speaker 2: sou doesn't need to do that. So you could go 243 00:09:59,585 --> 00:10:02,385 Speaker 2: to like a hairhouse warehouse place. They have lots of options. 244 00:10:02,425 --> 00:10:05,585 Speaker 2: There's a whole tab of sulfate free shampoos on their website. 245 00:10:06,025 --> 00:10:08,905 Speaker 2: But there's also really great options in your pharmacy or supermarket. 246 00:10:08,985 --> 00:10:11,865 Speaker 2: You don't have to buy the salon priced stuff. The 247 00:10:11,985 --> 00:10:15,985 Speaker 2: Tonian Guy Color Radiance Pro sulfate free shampoo and conditioner. 248 00:10:16,225 --> 00:10:18,625 Speaker 2: They're full price at Wooly is nineteen bucks each, but 249 00:10:18,785 --> 00:10:20,665 Speaker 2: at the time of recording. There eleven dollars, so you 250 00:10:20,665 --> 00:10:22,625 Speaker 2: can always get them on sale, but still twenty bucks 251 00:10:22,665 --> 00:10:24,825 Speaker 2: each is a really good price. I love the Tonian 252 00:10:24,865 --> 00:10:28,305 Speaker 2: Guy products that's kind of mustige at Woolies. I love them. 253 00:10:28,345 --> 00:10:29,145 Speaker 2: I love the plex one. 254 00:10:29,265 --> 00:10:31,625 Speaker 1: Can you please explain, just to anyone that's new. 255 00:10:31,625 --> 00:10:35,545 Speaker 2: What mastige, well, massige means in the middle between mass 256 00:10:35,905 --> 00:10:38,025 Speaker 2: and prestige. So I guess your prestige would be like 257 00:10:38,065 --> 00:10:41,745 Speaker 2: your orba and mass would beat your panteen or your 258 00:10:41,905 --> 00:10:45,505 Speaker 2: herbalescences or whatever. So that stuff in the middle is mustige. 259 00:10:45,825 --> 00:10:49,345 Speaker 2: Another great one is the OGX Nourishing and Hydrating Coconut 260 00:10:49,425 --> 00:10:52,985 Speaker 2: Milk shampoo for dry hair that is also sulfate free, 261 00:10:53,065 --> 00:10:55,585 Speaker 2: and it is twenty three dollars and it's big for 262 00:10:55,665 --> 00:10:58,745 Speaker 2: the shampoo. Again, I'm looking somewhere online and it's half priced. 263 00:10:58,785 --> 00:11:02,785 Speaker 2: So usually these like He's another one FMCG fast moving 264 00:11:02,825 --> 00:11:05,105 Speaker 2: consumer goods, so they're in the supermarket at the pharmacies. 265 00:11:05,185 --> 00:11:07,665 Speaker 2: You can generally always get them on sale or they'll 266 00:11:07,665 --> 00:11:10,185 Speaker 2: be on sale soon. Another great one on a door 267 00:11:10,225 --> 00:11:12,865 Speaker 2: beauty is the Coco and Eve like a virgin super 268 00:11:12,945 --> 00:11:16,825 Speaker 2: hydrating shampoo and conditioner sulfate free and good old Sukin 269 00:11:16,905 --> 00:11:19,825 Speaker 2: the Sucin Natural Balance shampoo and conditioner. They come in 270 00:11:20,265 --> 00:11:24,385 Speaker 2: one liter pump packs. They are thirty five dollars. I'm 271 00:11:24,425 --> 00:11:26,825 Speaker 2: on Amazon at the moment, but it's down to fifteen dollars. 272 00:11:26,825 --> 00:11:28,585 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going to stick around, but yeah, 273 00:11:28,665 --> 00:11:30,745 Speaker 2: just look for sulfate free or pop into a hairhouse 274 00:11:30,785 --> 00:11:32,945 Speaker 2: warehouse or one of those kind of like factory type 275 00:11:32,985 --> 00:11:34,505 Speaker 2: vibes where they do all the hair stuff and just 276 00:11:34,505 --> 00:11:36,145 Speaker 2: say I've had keroten, what can I use what's on 277 00:11:36,225 --> 00:11:38,985 Speaker 2: special and go from there. And they also say heat 278 00:11:39,065 --> 00:11:41,225 Speaker 2: styling can strip the keratin, but you're gonna have to 279 00:11:41,265 --> 00:11:43,345 Speaker 2: heat style heaps sless because you've had the keroten exactly. 280 00:11:43,465 --> 00:11:45,505 Speaker 2: I feel like that's not a problem, Kelly. I think 281 00:11:45,505 --> 00:11:47,985 Speaker 2: you'd love kerotin. Although it's every I'm rickier with blondes 282 00:11:48,145 --> 00:11:50,545 Speaker 2: because it can strip your color when you get it done. 283 00:11:51,185 --> 00:11:52,865 Speaker 2: So because I'm brunette, they can then put the color 284 00:11:52,905 --> 00:11:54,545 Speaker 2: back on top because I throw a lot of orange. 285 00:11:54,585 --> 00:11:56,025 Speaker 2: But you'd have to go back two weeks later to 286 00:11:56,105 --> 00:11:56,945 Speaker 2: get your colory done. 287 00:11:57,025 --> 00:11:59,865 Speaker 1: And also it's just like another thing, another thing, and 288 00:12:00,345 --> 00:12:01,465 Speaker 1: I just don't want to sit. 289 00:12:01,585 --> 00:12:03,665 Speaker 2: I started getting it done when I got my haircut short, 290 00:12:03,705 --> 00:12:05,865 Speaker 2: because I couldn't just slip back the frieze into a bun. 291 00:12:06,305 --> 00:12:08,625 Speaker 2: So it was like, Okay, now it's getting longer, I'm 292 00:12:08,625 --> 00:12:11,505 Speaker 2: growing it, but I've got still a little ratstyle when 293 00:12:11,545 --> 00:12:13,305 Speaker 2: I put my hair back. But when it was really short, 294 00:12:13,625 --> 00:12:16,585 Speaker 2: I had to wear it out. So the Keraten reretin 295 00:12:16,585 --> 00:12:19,185 Speaker 2: would have been amazing. I honestly think like the Dyson 296 00:12:19,425 --> 00:12:21,705 Speaker 2: has just been a game change. Yeah, it's so true, 297 00:12:21,785 --> 00:12:23,545 Speaker 2: that's it. If you've got time, but this I could 298 00:12:23,665 --> 00:12:25,465 Speaker 2: wash and wear back. Then I would get up, get 299 00:12:25,545 --> 00:12:27,225 Speaker 2: in the car with wet hair, get to the office 300 00:12:27,265 --> 00:12:27,585 Speaker 2: or whatever. 301 00:12:27,665 --> 00:12:30,545 Speaker 1: With dry hair. Looks like I just stepped on. Wow. 302 00:12:31,265 --> 00:12:33,105 Speaker 2: I can't convince myself to book back. 303 00:12:34,025 --> 00:12:36,225 Speaker 1: Next weekly will come in. I've just had it done again. 304 00:12:36,745 --> 00:12:39,225 Speaker 1: And how much, roughly is a Kerotin treatment? Do you 305 00:12:39,265 --> 00:12:40,025 Speaker 1: know how much you pay? 306 00:12:40,065 --> 00:12:42,905 Speaker 2: About five hundred? I think, yeah, it's expensive, and it's 307 00:12:42,945 --> 00:12:45,145 Speaker 2: expensive for an hour and a half, but it's not. 308 00:12:45,505 --> 00:12:47,905 Speaker 2: It's five months of joy. It's like I don't have 309 00:12:47,985 --> 00:12:49,865 Speaker 2: to blow dry. You've got to think of like the 310 00:12:50,025 --> 00:12:52,625 Speaker 2: time and money it's saving you. Not that I would 311 00:12:52,785 --> 00:12:54,665 Speaker 2: ever go for a blow dry really, but you're saving 312 00:12:54,745 --> 00:12:55,625 Speaker 2: me time money. 313 00:12:55,905 --> 00:12:57,465 Speaker 1: I'm not the sort of person that goes for a 314 00:12:57,505 --> 00:13:00,185 Speaker 1: blow dry couple. Actually, you hate blow dryers as well. 315 00:13:00,225 --> 00:13:01,625 Speaker 2: I hate anything. So I went for a petty the 316 00:13:01,705 --> 00:13:03,745 Speaker 2: other day and they were taking so long. They had 317 00:13:04,025 --> 00:13:05,625 Speaker 2: only taken off my nail color. I was there for 318 00:13:05,665 --> 00:13:06,825 Speaker 2: like an hour, and then they were meant to do 319 00:13:06,865 --> 00:13:08,385 Speaker 2: all the foot file this stuff, which is what I need. 320 00:13:08,465 --> 00:13:09,625 Speaker 1: But I was like, forget it, just do the color. 321 00:13:09,705 --> 00:13:10,145 Speaker 1: I've got to go. 322 00:13:10,345 --> 00:13:12,385 Speaker 2: I just can't. I hate appointment, so I'm in the 323 00:13:12,385 --> 00:13:15,385 Speaker 2: wrong job. But there's plenty of brands that do, like 324 00:13:15,545 --> 00:13:18,225 Speaker 2: salon brands that do keratin or keratin versions. There's that 325 00:13:18,305 --> 00:13:22,265 Speaker 2: nanoplasty thing. It's all just relaxing and smoothing. Even if 326 00:13:22,305 --> 00:13:24,265 Speaker 2: you're going back or give your headress a call and say, hey, 327 00:13:24,305 --> 00:13:27,105 Speaker 2: I know you recommended this, but I am thinking about 328 00:13:27,185 --> 00:13:29,385 Speaker 2: using this. Because of course they want you to buy 329 00:13:29,425 --> 00:13:31,385 Speaker 2: the eighty dollars stuff, but you really don't have to 330 00:13:31,585 --> 00:13:33,305 Speaker 2: coming up after the break. Kelly has a hack for 331 00:13:33,345 --> 00:13:36,385 Speaker 2: anyone who goes a little too ham with the makeup. 332 00:13:36,945 --> 00:13:42,585 Speaker 1: You're like, do you take your own advice? Kel what 333 00:13:42,785 --> 00:13:46,265 Speaker 1: a hack? You makeup hacks. 334 00:13:47,505 --> 00:13:50,625 Speaker 2: It's hosh, I'm perimenopausal. The poor lovely ladies in the studio, 335 00:13:50,705 --> 00:13:51,945 Speaker 2: I'm shitzeeing my head off. 336 00:13:51,985 --> 00:13:54,385 Speaker 1: You are shitzing, and I'm usually the sweaty one, and 337 00:13:54,385 --> 00:13:57,025 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with the ice cold nipples. I can 338 00:13:57,185 --> 00:13:58,785 Speaker 1: see you are they are? 339 00:13:59,625 --> 00:14:03,265 Speaker 2: They are saying hello to speaking of nipples. Don't buy 340 00:14:03,265 --> 00:14:05,865 Speaker 2: a beauty fridge because that's silly. And you can just 341 00:14:05,945 --> 00:14:08,105 Speaker 2: put your regular products in your fridge in your kitchen, 342 00:14:08,265 --> 00:14:10,665 Speaker 2: So put your sheet mask in there. Your face missed, 343 00:14:10,705 --> 00:14:13,425 Speaker 2: don't put your son screens, put your serum, and if 344 00:14:13,465 --> 00:14:16,185 Speaker 2: you're like me, put your balls. I bought these balls. 345 00:14:16,345 --> 00:14:18,305 Speaker 1: Okay, yours aren't proper balls. I need to send you 346 00:14:18,345 --> 00:14:22,225 Speaker 1: a photo of my actual balls, the blue balls. I'll 347 00:14:22,265 --> 00:14:22,705 Speaker 1: bet you do. 348 00:14:23,225 --> 00:14:25,185 Speaker 2: You can get all different types. What I'm talking about 349 00:14:25,265 --> 00:14:27,745 Speaker 2: is like a facial massage tool that is kept in 350 00:14:27,865 --> 00:14:29,985 Speaker 2: the fridge or the freezer and then you massage your face. 351 00:14:30,025 --> 00:14:32,865 Speaker 2: I bought these off Amazon. They're called fair p H 352 00:14:32,985 --> 00:14:35,865 Speaker 2: E F E. Why I like them is because they're 353 00:14:35,865 --> 00:14:37,465 Speaker 2: stainless steel, so I keep them in the fridge. But 354 00:14:37,505 --> 00:14:40,185 Speaker 2: these haven't been in the fridge for weeks. And put 355 00:14:40,185 --> 00:14:42,785 Speaker 2: it on my hand oh, touch yourself, touch my balls 356 00:14:42,785 --> 00:14:43,105 Speaker 2: onto you. 357 00:14:43,945 --> 00:14:48,665 Speaker 1: Oh so I'm already cold enough, fleet, I don't need 358 00:14:48,785 --> 00:14:49,505 Speaker 1: more coldness. 359 00:14:49,745 --> 00:14:51,985 Speaker 2: I forget to do this all the time, but when 360 00:14:52,025 --> 00:14:54,385 Speaker 2: I remember, well, the good thing is because my fridge 361 00:14:54,425 --> 00:14:55,985 Speaker 2: is downstairs. If they're in the fridge. I took these 362 00:14:56,065 --> 00:14:57,545 Speaker 2: up to my bedroom three weeks ago and then I've 363 00:14:57,545 --> 00:14:59,865 Speaker 2: been using them. The stainless stool keeps really cold, so 364 00:14:59,985 --> 00:15:04,345 Speaker 2: you just do massage. It's so hot if you're hungover, 365 00:15:04,465 --> 00:15:08,185 Speaker 2: if you tie and you do your neck so it's hot. 366 00:15:08,345 --> 00:15:10,665 Speaker 2: Keep your stuff in the fridge by so balls. Just 367 00:15:10,745 --> 00:15:13,265 Speaker 2: get cold stuff on your face, Get blue balls on 368 00:15:13,305 --> 00:15:15,905 Speaker 2: your face. Everyone's on your face, Kelly, what's your tip? 369 00:15:16,345 --> 00:15:17,825 Speaker 2: Did you come up with this yourself? Because you wear 370 00:15:17,865 --> 00:15:18,505 Speaker 2: too much macup? 371 00:15:18,585 --> 00:15:21,345 Speaker 1: I often go to way too heavy handed with makeup. 372 00:15:21,545 --> 00:15:24,985 Speaker 1: Fighting issue, yes, and also I just generally have so 373 00:15:25,105 --> 00:15:28,065 Speaker 1: much fun with makeup. Yes, which is generally fine. But 374 00:15:28,185 --> 00:15:29,785 Speaker 1: at this time of year, there are a lot of 375 00:15:29,985 --> 00:15:33,185 Speaker 1: day events. So I go outside and I'm like, oh, 376 00:15:33,505 --> 00:15:35,825 Speaker 1: but you're good at knowing what to do if you've 377 00:15:35,865 --> 00:15:38,585 Speaker 1: gone too far. This is what anyone can do, okay, 378 00:15:38,785 --> 00:15:41,025 Speaker 1: Because some people think like, oh, I'm just gonna pop 379 00:15:41,105 --> 00:15:42,225 Speaker 1: a mist on and that'll help. 380 00:15:42,305 --> 00:15:42,985 Speaker 2: No no, no, no no. 381 00:15:43,345 --> 00:15:45,025 Speaker 1: That can make you look a little bit fresher, but 382 00:15:45,105 --> 00:15:47,505 Speaker 1: it's not gonna help with like old crap. I've got 383 00:15:47,625 --> 00:15:50,705 Speaker 1: way too much makeup on my face. Yeah, So what 384 00:15:50,905 --> 00:15:53,145 Speaker 1: you need to do is get like a tiny amount 385 00:15:53,265 --> 00:15:56,625 Speaker 1: of moisturizer between your fingers and like face mostress yeah yeah, 386 00:15:56,905 --> 00:15:59,185 Speaker 1: and like or a serum just anything a little bit 387 00:15:59,425 --> 00:16:02,865 Speaker 1: high and sticky. Yeah, and then you know what I mean, 388 00:16:03,025 --> 00:16:08,585 Speaker 1: then gently press it into your skin all over your face. Okay, 389 00:16:09,025 --> 00:16:11,505 Speaker 1: I can tell why that would work, because it's like 390 00:16:12,025 --> 00:16:15,465 Speaker 1: the moisturize is kind of like schmood, losing a little 391 00:16:15,505 --> 00:16:18,425 Speaker 1: bit but not ruining it. And because you're just gently pressing, 392 00:16:18,465 --> 00:16:21,025 Speaker 1: you're not moving everything. Every question is. 393 00:16:21,025 --> 00:16:24,345 Speaker 2: This, if you've gone like two ham on, like because 394 00:16:24,345 --> 00:16:26,625 Speaker 2: I'm combo, I put on too much dewy foundation, that 395 00:16:26,665 --> 00:16:27,145 Speaker 2: would work? 396 00:16:27,145 --> 00:16:29,905 Speaker 1: Would that would not work? Off with a brush, that'd 397 00:16:29,985 --> 00:16:31,025 Speaker 1: make it a lot juicy. 398 00:16:31,265 --> 00:16:32,665 Speaker 2: I were dry, This is good. 399 00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:35,465 Speaker 1: This is heaven for my skin because I'm dry. If 400 00:16:35,585 --> 00:16:37,705 Speaker 1: that was the case, then I would go in with 401 00:16:37,785 --> 00:16:40,745 Speaker 1: one of those little powder puffs. Oh yes, and a 402 00:16:40,945 --> 00:16:43,825 Speaker 1: tiny little bit of translucent or even just like puff 403 00:16:43,865 --> 00:16:45,865 Speaker 1: puff because it'll take a bit off exactly, and it 404 00:16:46,145 --> 00:16:49,825 Speaker 1: just like almost diffuses it and blows it. 405 00:16:50,305 --> 00:16:52,225 Speaker 2: A tiny bit of hydration if you dry, or a 406 00:16:52,305 --> 00:16:54,025 Speaker 2: tiny bit of buffing and lifting if. 407 00:16:53,945 --> 00:16:56,505 Speaker 1: You're but don't you don't need to wash it all off. 408 00:16:56,585 --> 00:16:59,145 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, No, I just go, oh, well, that's my face. 409 00:16:58,985 --> 00:17:00,265 Speaker 1: For today and we're not anymore. 410 00:17:00,465 --> 00:17:02,825 Speaker 2: No, I don't. And you look great today. So did 411 00:17:02,865 --> 00:17:04,385 Speaker 2: you put too much on it? Then take it off? No? 412 00:17:04,665 --> 00:17:06,945 Speaker 1: I did so much skin prep and then use the 413 00:17:07,145 --> 00:17:08,465 Speaker 1: tiniest amount of foundation. 414 00:17:09,865 --> 00:17:11,705 Speaker 2: Thank you. Oh we finished. 415 00:17:13,065 --> 00:17:15,665 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to us. We'll be 416 00:17:15,785 --> 00:17:16,505 Speaker 1: back on Friday. 417 00:17:16,945 --> 00:17:18,425 Speaker 2: Sorry, we've gone a bit brow. Can you tell it's 418 00:17:18,465 --> 00:17:18,985 Speaker 2: the end of the year. 419 00:17:19,545 --> 00:17:20,505 Speaker 1: It's so obvious. 420 00:17:21,265 --> 00:17:23,265 Speaker 2: If you enjoy us, jump in the Facebook group and 421 00:17:23,385 --> 00:17:24,945 Speaker 2: join us if you're not already in there, give us 422 00:17:24,985 --> 00:17:27,225 Speaker 2: a review. 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