WEBVTT - The Red Carpet Moment That Answers The Blake Lively Question 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:06.080 Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia out Loud. It's what 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.640 women are actually talking about on Wednesday, sixth of May. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.520 I'm Holly Wainwright and the first thing I'm going to do, 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:16.079 the first order of business, very simple out louder is 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.159 if you love your show, please vote for us in 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.720 the upcoming Australian Audio Awards as a People's Choice category. 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.360 It's really straightforward. We're going to put a link in 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.000 the show notes, We're probably going to put it on 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.840 social We're going to put it everywhere. We would love 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:32.239 your support to help us get there. That is the 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:34.080 end of my manifesto for the day. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.159 Okay, Well, I just would like to say as a 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.680 lazy girl that there are all these things to fill out. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.240 You only have to fill us out. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:43.920 Yeah, you don't have to do everything is just tick 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:44.760 Mama Mia out Loud. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:48.000 So important for the lazy girls out there, and as 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.760 as a bossy girl, I just concur with Holly. I 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.960 know you can make that ask of people, and I 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.760 think that's a great step towards greet our self assertive. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.560 I'm growing, I'm growing, Amelia Growing. I'm Amelia Lester and 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.840 I'm Claire Stephen and here's what's made our agenda for today. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.680 So now that it's all over and many damning text 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.759 messages scatter the ruins of what was the biggest celebrity 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.680 story for a couple of years, Just who did win 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:21.720 in the whole? Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni court case drama. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.920 Plus Cameron Diaz is a mother again at fifty three, 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.160 and Holly has some thoughts. 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:32.880 And veteran broadcaster James Valentine filmed the last year of 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.560 his life for the ABC, and between a living wake 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:40.480 and his openness around voluntary assisted dying, he's opened a 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.119 conversation around what it means to die a good death. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.800 But first, Amelia Lester, the Mecgala. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.320 Did it feel different this year? A lot of people 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.640 said that it did. Amy Odell, a fashion writer, wrote 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.840 in her background newsletter that the Metgala was all money, 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.640 no soul, and she wasn't alone in this criticism. Basically, 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.559 people are saying that because Jeff Bezos and his wife 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:08.440 Lauren Sanchez Bezos sponsored the event, it just started to 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.400 feel a little craven, a little gross, and less fun 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.560 than it used to be. So there were a lot 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.400 of protests in New York. In the lead up to 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.519 the event, they were all centered around Amazon's labor practices, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.320 its environmental damage. And then there are those who say, no, 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.440 that's not true. The mech color's always been about rich 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.440 people giving their money towards a good cause, which is 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.839 the Metropolitan Museum's Costume Institute. And look, they did raise 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.440 a lot of money on Monday night. The Bezos has 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.240 bought the event for about ten million dollars, but then 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.200 the event itself raised about forty one million. This is 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.720 US dollars, which is a lot for this event. It's 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:47.480 apparently kind of record breaking. So are we just complaining 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:53.040 about nothing, Holly? Do you feel like celebrities stayed away? 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.519 Did they agree that this was a sort of off 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:56.640 event this year? 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.560 So I'm going to give you a list of the 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:04.680 celebrities who people say boycotted, because none of the people 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.799 so far who everyone is saying has boycott had actually 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.359 verbalized that they were boycott. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.600 Well, we are boycotted, which we just had to take 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.040 a stand because. 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.840 I do feel a little bit like what soul when 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.720 you said it's all money those salt like, I do 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.520 feel a bit that I don't think this is the 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.680 first year. It has been pointed out in the culture, 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.880 particularly since trump Ism and all those things, that this 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.919 feels very hunger games. Yes, yes, and I know although 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.200 there's a more direct link here, you know, with the 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.720 Bezos is buying it. I do feel like Jeff sort 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.120 of bought it for Lauren as a gift, which is 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.320 a nice gift. Nice, but it feels more avert. So anyway, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.520 let's look at this because when I was watching it 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.800 on Tuesday and then I did a subscriber episode with 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.200 me as straight afterwards, I was like, well, all the 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.240 celebrities are there, like Beyonce's there. All the famous people 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:54.840 I was expecting to be there were there. 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.800 Well, actually a lot of famous feom we didn't expect 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:57.560 to be there were there. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.480 Yeah. And then it was pointed out to me who 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:04.960 was not Billie Eilish. Now that tracks because she doesn't 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.560 like billionaires, and she remembers she gave a speech a 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.600 while ago where she said, you lot give more of 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.880 your money away. So I don't think she would have 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.440 been either welcome or willing to go, because Jeff might 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.159 have worried that she was going to shake him down 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:20.000 in the bathroom to share more of his money. Zoe Saldana, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.039 she is somebody who is usually there. She was not there. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.839 She is almost as rich as the billionaires. She is 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.480 an unbelievably well paid actress because of her Marvel and 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:33.560 Avatar connections. So Zoe's at home count of dollars. Olivia 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.599 Rodrigo that tracks too. She is political, That would not 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.960 be surprising. She's in the middle of an album promo, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.760 so you might have usually expected her to be there. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:47.880 Lady Gaga an interesting one because she could have been 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.080 expected to be there because she's in The Devil Wears 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.239 prior of Too and the rest of the Well. Meryl 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:55.360 wasn't there, but Meryl never goes, so that's not surprising. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.840 But Anne Hath the way Emily Blunt Stanley Tucci were 0:04:58.880 --> 0:04:59.360 all there. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.080 Stanley Tucci with Emily blount sister, it's always fun. 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.760 So maybe Gaga, but also she's kind of said lately 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.800 that she's going to focus on promoting things she wants 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.880 to promote rather than just being around. Lewis Hamilton come on, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:20.800 like he's literally dating Kim Kardashian, who's extremely bezos adjacent. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:22.840 I don't think that was a political. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.680 Let's get to the big guns. Some were missing, right, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.560 some who we might have realized. Sarah Jessica Parker. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:34.320 Yeah, so, Sarah Jessica I reckon. That is probably I 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.440 would say that's almost definitely a boycott. But she went 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.840 to support Anna at a dinner, but she didn't. 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:41.640 Go to the There was a dinner on the weekend 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.080 before the gala. It probably would have been more fun. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.080 Anyways, she said anything, No, she hasn't, but she I 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.400 think she was in support of the New New York mayor. Right, 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.920 And obviously he didn't go, but then I wouldn't have 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.840 expected him to go, and he did post about it. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.520 They posted a series of let's sell a the real 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.640 heroes of fashion and you know, celebrated workers behind the 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.200 scenes and particular designers and things. So yes, so Sarah 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.480 Jessica Parker I reckon could be a boycott. But then 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.200 they're saying, you know, j Lo, I don't think Jalo 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.279 was boycotting. I just think she's tired. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:16.200 Harry Styles. 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.800 Harry Styles is in the middle of record of rehearsing 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.840 for his tour. He's in a studio in bethnal Green 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.640 running through it. Not that I've been stalking him. Justin Bieber, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.720 he's just done Coachella. Boy needs to lie down. Miley 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.400 Taylor Swift, she never goes, and I don't think she's so. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.159 I think that some of the boycott cots are not 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:37.120 boy I. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.240 Think that's right. But it's interesting that some of the 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.960 tech billionaires it clearly got to them a little bit. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.960 So it's interesting that Jeff did not walk the red 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.159 carpet with Lauren. That's very unusual. They do everything together. 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.279 We've learned this from various pieces about them and Lauren's 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.320 dress being very boring. Do we think that was intentional. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.240 A little bit understated for Lauren, Yeah, but I think 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.240 it was had a very specific art reference. It was 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.440 the same dress as someone called Madame X and it's 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:05.680 like scandalous women. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.040 Yep. It's interesting though, because Jeff did walk the carpet 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:14.120 in twenty thirteen when Amazon sponsored the event. There was 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.560 no outrage back then when Amazon sponsored the event and 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.600 he walked with Mackenzie then Mackenzie Bezos his wife at 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:25.320 the time. Mark Zuckerberg also made his Met Gala debut 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.080 with his wife, Priscilla Chan, and they also didn't walk 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.400 the red carpet, which I thought was interesting because it's 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:31.960 kind of like, well, you want to be at the 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.160 glamorous event, but you don't want the attention of being there. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.400 Do you think they might have been encouraged not to. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.800 I don't think anyone encourages Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:47.600 to do anything would have worked exactly. But there were 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.680 some tech willionaires who did walk the carpet. Google founder 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.520 Sergei Brinn. He showed up on the red carpet with 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.800 his girlfriend. Her name is Gaylyn Gilbert Soto. The New 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:03.200 York Times describes her as a con conservative gut health influencer. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:08.360 That is one of the six job title Claire. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.360 Do you think that there's something inherently conservative about gut health? 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:15.600 Yeah, because gut health is very don't take antibiotics and 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.280 don't take antibiotics is very That's what it's. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which used to be a sort 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.200 of crunchy hippie vibe, but these days has come back 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:25.640 around it. 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:27.600 I thought it was just you know, drink your com 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.920 your chart, but no, it means it can. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.959 Be very I feel like there's it's a short road 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:38.200 from like gut health gut health to to anti vacs. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:43.800 Don't ever give your children antibiotics with my sour crow. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.080 And of course I'm AROUNDA was there. I just have 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:51.040 to add she was there with Snapchat founder Evanstein on 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.320 the carpet, of course. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.079 Possibly the biggest gun that I haven't mentioned though, is Zendaya. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.800 She does always go. Usually she didn't go, and that 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.760 read like a boycott. And some people are saying, if 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.160 your boycotting, say you're boycotting. I don't think so necessarily. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.040 You don't want to necessarily make everything about your politics. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.120 But I just have one question. I think that big 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:15.200 charity galas of all types have always been, have always 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:19.319 reflected the moment therein and they've always been a path 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.760 to accessing status in a particular society. Watch the Gilded Age, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:24.559 It's all about that. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.880 And Nixon notably said that she thought it was great 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:28.720 that the mayor didn't go. 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.640 Yes, but like you know, you're reflecting the time. So 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.560 you're going a big gala ball is the way you 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.160 get all the fancy people together. This being a tech 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:41.400 bro billionaire ball is very reflective of the moment we're 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.800 living in, right, So is it surprising in any way 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.000 in the nineteen eighties New York society. It was all 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.160 about glitz and flash and Donald Trump, and now we're 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.520 like again, I don't know. I kind of feel like, 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.200 what did we expect to happen? 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.640 No, that's right, But I think that the group that 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.640 people are most angry at it's not the people who 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.680 went in their pretty dresses. It's not the people who 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.320 didn't go and stay quiet about it. It's the people 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.760 who went but then tried to have their cake and 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.079 eat it too. See. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.080 I'm not as frustrated about this because Sarah Paulson is 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.760 getting a hole at a crap because she wore a 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.560 dress that then and then had a blindfold that was 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.680 a dollar bill, and it was people like it's making 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.559 a statement about about like eating the rich. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.920 Well, she herself said that it was a statement about 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:28.280 the one. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.480 Besides yes, and and I thought that was like a 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.600 far swing. But the dress is actually called like the 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.760 one percent by the artist, the designer who designed it, 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.800 and the mask was called blinded by Money, and it 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.400 was a statement on greed and corruption that comes with 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.200 extreme power. I think it's a little bit unfair to 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.240 look at her and say, well, you've got a net 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.960 worth of twelve million dollars at which how does anyone 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.760 calculate anyone's net worth on the internet? But you have 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.560 a net worth of that you're at this event, how 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.760 dare you then make a protest when it's like, well, 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.000 isn't that exactly how how you do it? 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.360 Don't you go in? And well, people do have a 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:13.120 history of using that platform. So Alexandra Ocazio Cortez, who 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:17.719 is a Democratic congresswoman from New York, famously wore a 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.319 dress on the Megala red carpet a couple of years 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:26.280 ago which said tax the rich. But people actually have 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.920 the same criticism for her. To your point, Holly, the 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.720 met Gala in some corners has always been seen as 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:37.040 a kind of repulsive show of excess and decadence, and 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.680 she got a lot of aoc got a lot of 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.120 flak for even attending the event back then, reading the 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.600 canapasey while saying. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.640 You guys are discussing while Charlie free directions. 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:54.080 But if you're not there, you don't have a microphone 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.880 to say anything about the event, do you know? Well, 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:58.920 I guess you do. I guess like Vende could opposed 0:11:58.920 --> 0:11:59.640 to something on Instagram. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.080 If you want Zendaya not going definitely took the air 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.640 out of the room when that announcement came out, And 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.360 I guess it wasn't an announcement so much as a 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.920 news update. Everyone kind of went, that's big. When Zendeia's 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.200 not there, it's big. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.480 Because she's always one of the coolest on the carpet. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:19.640 Does something really original, remember that, like bloody light up 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:20.320 dress and she. 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:25.079 Oh, but there was a bathroom selfie. Some things always 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.080 stay the same, right, and you saw this by Yes, 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.640 it's always an iconic bathroom selfie. It's always the thing 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.079 you want to look for. And there was an amazing 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.080 one that had you know, the Margo Robbie all the 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:36.520 people in it. But one of the things that was 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.160 most striking about that And so I saw that in 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.760 the wild last night and I was like, why is 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.080 there an exceptionally beautiful woman in the middle of that 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.080 who is wearing a quarter zip sweatshirt? I was like, 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:48.760 was she at that party? 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.160 And then it's having a lot of headlines today because 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.160 she is actually a very famous model. 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.960 Yeah, I actually love the story behind this. Her name 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:02.280 is Bavitha Mandava and she that what she wore was 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:06.360 a quarterzip jumper essentially and what looked like jeans. It 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.280 turns out they weren't just any jeans. The jeans were 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:12.000 made with silk muslin and had a blue denim effect. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:16.120 My jeans today have a blue denim effect. And it's 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:21.240 a very important iconic look because she opened Chanell's show 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.360 in December, which was on the New York City Subway, 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.319 wearing essentially that outfit, and the fashion world lost their mind. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.400 That show was like considered extremely groundbreaking, and she was 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.880 the first Indian model to open a Chanel show and 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.720 she is now the first South Asian ambassador for Chanel. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.120 And incidentally, did you notice that Margot Robbie, who was 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.040 also Chanel ambassador, It was right next to her in 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.640 that photo. So Chanell must have been just so happy 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:45.440 about the whole thing. 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.760 I know, but it just she just looked so out 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:48.280 of place. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:49.839 But that's what made it so good. 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.320 Yeah, but I was like wandered into the shop. But 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.720 she also read all about it and I was amazing. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:14:00.679 Yet she didn't have to have a bubble machine boobs. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.560 And then that look that she wore on the Chanel 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.400 catwalk was actually a nod in turn to how she 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.640 was discovered. I love this so much. She was a 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.480 grad student m YU and she was discovered on the 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.520 New York City subway waiting for a train. One would 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.480 imagine probably wearing a similar outfit to the one she 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.480 is now wearing in a much more fabulous incarnation at 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:24.080 the metgala. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.239 But you were obsessed with another red carpet walk. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:33.280 Yes, because I am a basic bitch. If, like I swear, 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.920 if there was like a thermometer for like, what's what 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.480 does the basic bitch think about anything that's happening in 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.280 the world right now? It comes over me and it's 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.520 like bing bing bing bing bing because I saw the 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.240 red carpet photos of Hugh Jackman in Suton Foster and 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.080 I think I was sitting opposite you and Holly and I. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:57.280 Said, oh oh, was like I don't and I'm like, 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:57.720 howm my. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:58.640 Here has it been? 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.960 Now? Not that many at least well he was. 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.960 Hugh Jackman was on the Red carpet with Debory Furnace 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:05.960 in twenty twenty three. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.480 My group chats are very divided on this. Some love 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.600 the two of them together and some are talking about 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:13.680 deb Prowley. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.560 Do you have to not debut your relationship after a 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.800 divorce five years, ten years? What do we want? 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.160 There are no rules, but I am allowed to go 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.760 oh poor deb Oh, no, I hate that I am allowed. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.560 And then the tabloids, because again I'm a basic bitch. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.920 The tabloids were like, hey, basic bitches, We've made up 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:38.160 a story for you. So there are sources in Inverata 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:43.080 commas who say that Debrale Furnace was a huge fan 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.800 of the event and the decision to bring Sutton Foster 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.720 was a final blow to deb And what I didn't 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.760 realize when I went really deep on this was some 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.560 Foster's wearing a ring, like they think that you proposed 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.320 in January and they think they're going to have some 0:15:58.360 --> 0:15:59.240 trend in your wedding. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.040 And is that all are not allowed? He's not allowed 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.680 to marry again, not ever, not ever. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:04.920 I I don't know about that. 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.560 How do you know that, Deborah Lee Furness. This is 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.560 what I don't like about this narrative is it victimizes 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.000 a woman who maybe is totally done with that, you 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.440 know what I mean. She obviously she made up some 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.920 statements that made it clear she was not happy when 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:22.080 that relationship broke down, But again three years ago, so 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.040 now she might be living her absolute best life. Thank 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:26.680 god I don't have to go to the met gala 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.080 with that guy. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.400 She disagrees politically too. We don't know anything about it, 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.280 like she was kind of famously a conservative political voice 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:39.360 because he is the godparent of Rupert Murdock and Wendy 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:45.480 Dang's children. Also, he's very close with Avanka Trump. So 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.560 no one was surprised to see Hugh at the slightly 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.040 maga codd metgala. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.680 Oh wow, he's unfair, And I know no one's crying 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.000 for the celebrities, but I think it's unfair to brand 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.960 everybody who was at that red carpet as maga. 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.320 Co Oh no, no, no, I did too, But I just 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.159 I'm saying that he's not exactly Alexandra Orcasio Cortez. No 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.760 one would be expecting him to make a big political 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.439 statement about the taxing the rich. No, he's very like 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.760 to promote. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.480 In a moment, what the heck was all that Baldoni 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:25.000 Lively business about? If we've both basically ended with nobody 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:29.840 winning and no money changing hands. So moments before one 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.879 Blake Lively swept onto the met gala carpet looking a 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:38.240 bit like Cinderella, very trademark minus the bluebird. She didn't happen. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:45.560 She always said exactly body, She's pretty good all that stuff. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:50.000 But moments before that, a statement dropped into the inboxes 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.399 of major press outlets, including People, New York Times and 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:57.080 so on, and it read the end product the movie. 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.239 It ends with Us is a source of pride to 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.400 all of us who worked to bring it to life. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.440 And with no context, Everyone's like, why are we reading this? 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.200 Raising awareness and making a meaningful impact in the lives 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:16.080 of domestic violence survivors and all survivors is a goal 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.919 that we stand behind. It becomes clear this is a 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:23.360 joint statement from Blake Lively's team and Justin Baldoni's team 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.040 about the court case we've all been obsessed about for years. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:32.879 We acknowledge the process, presented challenges, did it. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:39.840 Recollections and recognized concerns raised by mes Lively deserved to 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:40.439 be heard. 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:45.760 We remain firmly committed to workplaces free of improprieties and 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:49.240 unproductive environments. This is one of those statements that so 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.480 many lawyers were involved in drafting that it. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.600 I hate an unproductive environment and I'm with that. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.720 That's fair. It is our sincere hope that this statement 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:06.520 brings closure and allows all involved to move forward constructively 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:12.320 and in peace, including a respectful environment online. And in 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.679 the hope of moving forward constructively and in peace, Blake 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.360 goes to the met gal Yeah, yep. Now we'll get 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.200 to whether or not they got their respectful environment online, 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.000 But just a very quick catch up, because we would 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:25.960 be here for a year if we went into all 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.920 the ins and outs of what's been going on here. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:32.800 But it all started when Blake Lively. Do I need 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.840 to explain who she is? Significant star actress, possessor of 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.960 wonderful hair, one half of a very powerful Hollywood power couple, 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.399 made a movie called It Ends with Us, based on 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.120 one of the best selling books in the past decade 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:46.119 by Colleen Hoover. 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.119 And you guys are weird about it because I said 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.760 this morning that it's objectively one of the worst movies 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.640 I've ever seen. And you guys, it's fine. You guys 0:19:53.720 --> 0:20:02.959 were so mad well. I didn't stop you so mad well. 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.800 I'm gonna get to that in a minute. The thing 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.359 is is that making a movie based on one of 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.440 the best selling books of the decade is smart business 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.520 and lots of people wanted to do it. But the 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.359 man who owned the rights was Justin Baldoni, who's a 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:21.320 lesser known dude. He's an actor, producer, self proclaimed feminist. Done. 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:22.399 Some Ted talks about it. 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:24.439 Everything I know about this man I've learned against my 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:25.680 will exactly done. 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.080 Some Ted talks about it podcast with Liz Plank something 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.680 something something. Anyway, the movie itself is about domestic balance. 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:34.560 That is not a mystery or a surprise at his 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.640 front and center in the plot. The movie got made, 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.880 and the movie was a huge hit, proving Claire Stephens wrong. 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:46.520 All I need to say. 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.639 Against the modest production budget of twenty five million, it 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:55.960