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Speaker 1: This episode of CZA is brought to you by Matrix.

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Speaker 1: These are the yays of our lives. Busy and happy

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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 1: one way. So this is a platform to hear and

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives. They adore,

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst day

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of seizing your yea. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels to co found

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Speaker 1: matcha Maiden and matcha Milkbar. CZA is a series of

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Speaker 1: conversations on finding a life you love and exploring the

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Speaker 1: self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way. It

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Speaker 1: wouldn't truly be yays of our lives if I didn't

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Speaker 1: get our little ya maker and to jump on for

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Speaker 1: an episode. I've been getting so many lovely messages about

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Speaker 1: how these tangential Badter sessions have been helping you guys

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Speaker 1: keep smiling during tough times. But honestly, it's more therapy

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Speaker 1: for me that I just happen to have recorded, so

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Speaker 1: the fact that anyone listens in and that you're enjoying

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Speaker 1: it too is an absolute bonus. You may remember an

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Speaker 1: from the very first ever episode of Cca, where she

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Speaker 1: in episode thirty three, or all over my socials. I've

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Speaker 1: had three messages just this week asking how my sister is,

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Speaker 1: which she is not, but which you'd absolutely be forgiven for,

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Speaker 1: more into life at twenty four than many do in

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Speaker 1: a lifetime, having ridden eight hundred kilometers from Adelaide to

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Speaker 1: a full time physio at Royal Melbourne Hospital. We swing

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Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite things about our friendship

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Speaker 1: and which definitely comes out in this episode Today apologies

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Speaker 1: in advance for the part that simply don't make sense

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Speaker 1: to anyone else but that we clearly find hilarious. Again,

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Speaker 1: for this line, I had no notes at all, which

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Speaker 1: I'm really loving so much. Between our regular schedule of

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Speaker 1: interviews and hope you enjoy following our crazy brains all

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Speaker 1: over the place. We had just found out Lockdown was

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Speaker 1: But this was an amazing circuit breaker for my energy,

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Speaker 1: and I hope it is for some of you too,

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Speaker 1: and is such a ball of energy and always lifts

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Speaker 1: everyone lots of love. Bin Blina, Welcome to Yay's of

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Speaker 1: our lives. I usually use people's first names, but I

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Speaker 2: Because I obviously bim, but Sarah sounds really formal, like

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Speaker 2: I don't actually know you if I got you, Sarah

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Speaker 1: And bim sounds like I'm saying bimp or something sounds

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Speaker 1: like it has to be bim Berlina, AND's term of

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Speaker 1: affection in varying degrees of If you've listened to her episode,

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Speaker 1: goes from Bimbo to Bimbi. No, Bimbo to bimb to

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Speaker 2: And it's really because obviously Bimbo has like negative connotations

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Speaker 1: And talking about the whole jigsaw puzzle of your path yay,

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Speaker 1: give things a red hot crack. You know, what does

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Speaker 2: Every time someone said that would be like three dollars.

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Speaker 1: Rich, we'd have like a full piggybang by now.

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Speaker 2: through the lockdown blues and a Really it sounds really

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Speaker 2: cliche because everyone's like, oh, be grateful for the things

434
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Speaker 2: that you have, and I think Lockdown five, I was like,

435
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Speaker 2: I I'm kind of sick of them be grateful for

436
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Speaker 2: everything that you have now, because I've tried to do

437
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Speaker 2: that for the last four lockdowns and it kind of

438
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Speaker 2: just becomes really dry, and you're like, Okay, then I'm

439
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Speaker 2: already grateful, and then I have to be proactively grateful

440
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Speaker 2: because that's how you get through these things and stuff

441
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Speaker 2: like that. But this one, being grateful for people is

442
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: really different because it's be grateful for people in different ways,

443
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Speaker 2: and therefore the gratitude is felt and expressed differently, and

444
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 2: so it just feels novel and different. Rather than just

445
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Speaker 2: being grateful for your job, of your house, your water,

446
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: you know, mum, dad and things like that. It's like,

447
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for Sarah because she has been a mentor

448
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: for me and assisted to me and protective figure and

449
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Speaker 2: I'm supportive one for all these years. So I'm grateful

450
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Speaker 2: for Meck because he's shown me how to give generously

451
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Speaker 2: and genuinely without anything. You Woulturn, And I'm grateful for

452
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Speaker 2: you know, the patient that I had yesterday who showed

453
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Speaker 2: me what it's like to be resilient in a really

454
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Speaker 2: tough time in their life. So you get to kind

455
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Speaker 2: of be grateful, but it feels refreshed, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: In this lockdown, I think that's such a good point too.

457
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Speaker 1: You really represent to me what I think so many

458
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Speaker 1: people have gone through that we are all being a

459
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Speaker 1: little bit more pensive and reflective and analyzing and cleaning

460
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Speaker 1: the slate in our life, which is amazing. I mean,

461
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Speaker 1: it's a wonderful that that's an exercise people are allowing

462
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Speaker 1: themselves to do for the first time in so long

463
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Speaker 1: but five and now six plus plus extended lockdowns in

464
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Speaker 1: You're right, the messages that you've been saying for five

465
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Speaker 1: six times now, if I'm grateful every day, you can't

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Speaker 1: feel grateful every day. It's kind of shit, Like there

467
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: are days where it becomes dry, yeah, where that feels

468
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Speaker 1: artificial to say even of course you're grateful, but like

469
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Speaker 1: you can't feel that every day in a way that

470
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Speaker 1: removes the disappointment or the loss of hope or expectation

471
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Speaker 1: or joy or whatever it is. But I think finding

472
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Speaker 1: new ways to express it is so clever. And you've

473
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Speaker 1: been doing a beautiful little project that I love. If

474
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Speaker 1: maybe you want to share it, you don't have to,

475
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Speaker 1: but I think, yeah, people are probably looking for ideas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So I've always been a people person, and

477
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: I've always been as someone that struggles to show gratitude,

478
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Speaker 2: not because I can't shop, because I just don't know

479
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Speaker 2: how to show enough, particular to people when they have

480
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Speaker 2: made an impact in my life. I want to show

481
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Speaker 2: how much they have, and so I try to be grateful.

482
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Speaker 2: And I'm a serialf givar and I'm serial like acts

483
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Speaker 2: of service and words of affirmations kind of person, and

484
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Speaker 2: I never ever feel like it's ever enough. So I

485
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Speaker 2: started this book a Dari and I've been drenaling a lot.

486
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Speaker 2: That's been something that's helped in lockdown a lot of

487
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Speaker 2: journally And this one is very thimed, and it's about

488
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Speaker 2: the people that have shaped me to who I am today.

489
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Speaker 2: I'm just reading to here. I'm just going to read about.

490
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Speaker 2: This is the this is the title. This is this

491
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Speaker 2: book is dedicated to the people I've met, the people

492
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Speaker 2: I love, and the people who have shaped me to

493
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Speaker 2: who I am and will become. And it's essentially just

494
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Speaker 2: on the day, whoever I feel grateful for whoever I've

495
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Speaker 2: met that's made it left an impact that, like I

496
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Speaker 2: genuinely feel has I just write about and I write

497
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Speaker 2: quite truthfully and raw, in a raw way and in

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Speaker 2: a way that I would want them to hear this also,

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Speaker 2: and I would happily share this with them when the

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Speaker 2: day comes or when I feel like they need a

501
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Speaker 2: little bit of love or whatever it is. Yeah, I'm

502
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Speaker 2: just going to read the first page. I think that

503
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Speaker 2: is probably the best way to express what it's about. Also,

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Speaker 2: I just want to just put a disclaimer. I had

505
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Speaker 2: a procedure this morning. I had to be sedated.

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Speaker 1: High.

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Speaker 2: So if I'm really philosophical, I feel like this is

508
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Speaker 2: what it would be if I were ever on drugs.

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Speaker 1: So this is why we recorded now because we have

510
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Speaker 1: just heard literally half an hour ago that our lockdown

511
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Speaker 1: is being extended and is high. This is a great

512
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Speaker 1: time to create some joy for everyone for next Monday.

513
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Speaker 2: If I have is this is if every Okay, this

514
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Speaker 2: is what I wrote. This is my first entry. I

515
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: appreciate that I'm twenty four and a half almost to

516
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Speaker 2: worry back to my half birthday and not like anyone's

517
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Speaker 2: scouting exclamation mark. And I've met hundreds of people that

518
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: have had a lasting impact on me and who have

519
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 2: become I don't believe that the people that help shape

520
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Speaker 2: you necessarily have to be in your life for a

521
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Speaker 2: lack of time, but I do believe they're remaining a

522
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Speaker 2: story forever. They may have had an impact at the time,

523
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Speaker 2: and you may have changed as a person since, but

524
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Speaker 2: that doesn't discount their part in your never ending and

525
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: continually evolving story. I've been incredibly luking to have met

526
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Speaker 2: some of the most amazing humans in my life who

527
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Speaker 2: have also taught me significant lessons by just being them,

528
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: who have changed my outlook in life and betted me

529
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: without realizing naked. This is to be a tribute to

530
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Speaker 2: all the people that I've met and continue to meet.

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Speaker 2: There's no order other than the order of when I'm

532
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: feeling grateful for them. They will be double ups, but

533
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: that will be determined on who on that day I

534
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: feel most grateful for. So here's the people I love

535
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Speaker 2: and will be forever.

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Speaker 1: You can get it to But it's so beautiful. But

537
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Speaker 1: also it is in a particular order because I'm first first,

538
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Speaker 1: and just like yeah, but I also wrote it's in

539
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: no particular order, and like, well obviously just saying but yes,

540
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: but you know, like, something I really believe is that

541
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Speaker 1: the quickest way to make your own day if you're

542
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: having a shit day is try really really hard to

543
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: make someone else's. And like the response you get from

544
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: just giving someone a compliment or writing a little love

545
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Speaker 1: letter to the people who you appreciate, but it's unsolicited.

546
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: It's not because it's their birthday, or it's not because

547
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: it's you know, there's no reason that makes you feel

548
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: better as much as it makes them feel better. So

549
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: it's the easiest thing you can do when you're sitting

550
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: in your room in lockdown with nothing else to do, right, loveless.

551
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Speaker 2: Yes, it genuinely is like a big serotonin.

552
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Speaker 1: That's the joke, right, I don't know you're the expert.

553
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: Big mushroom dumbe.

554
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Speaker 1: I just know in a mushroom inside a big fluffy mushroom.

555
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Speaker 2: No, I think it genuinely does it? You know, like

556
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: running gives you en dolphins and all those like things

557
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: that just automatically happen. It just brings you actually a

558
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: really good, feel good moment when you're able to express

559
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: your gratitude to someone else. And I think we should

560
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: probably start to remove the stigma or the weirdness around

561
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: telling your friends they love you and like just genuinely

562
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: being like how are you and wanting an elaborate response

563
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: rather just are good, how are you? Kind of thing?

564
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: You know, I've sent you these long ass love letters

565
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: best friend and please me my best friend forever, my

566
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Speaker 2: breast friend forever.

567
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: We're breast friends forever. Where breast friends forever come from?

568
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. Lack of.

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Speaker 1: It was aspirational manifesting. Now that we're so woo woo,

570
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Speaker 1: just a quick break to give one of our amazing

571
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Speaker 1: partners in Ya Matrix a little shout out and a

572
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Speaker 1: very big thank you for making this episode possible. You

573
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Speaker 1: may have seen some fabulous, very fun and colorful content

574
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Speaker 1: coming out of our photoshoot from earlier in the year Yep,

575
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Speaker 1: that one where I Got Bangs, which kicked off this

576
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Speaker 1: heritage brand's groundbreaking brand refresh and relaunch to better embrace

577
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Speaker 1: beauty and of course, hair of all kinds. I'm so

578
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Speaker 1: so thrilled to join fellow ambassadors Rachel Sarah, who you

579
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Speaker 1: will be hearing from, Jess Vandalay and AJ Clementine on

580
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Speaker 1: the Matrix Australia Squad, particularly since we all share a

581
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Speaker 1: common experience for unique reasons of feeling unrepresented in the

582
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Speaker 1: beauty industry. It is so exciting to see the gradual

583
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Speaker 1: shift towards diversity and inclusion in beauty media and all

584
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Speaker 1: kinds of industries. With these values underlying the relaunch brand,

585
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Speaker 1: I'm even more in love with the product range that

586
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Speaker 1: offers something for every hair need. I mean, just look

587
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Speaker 1: at the four of us and how different our hair

588
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: is to each other. It's available in Matrix salons and online.

589
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Speaker 1: My hot tip the Total Results Miracle Creator Spray. It's

590
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Speaker 1: a twenty in one covering just about everything I've ever

591
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Speaker 1: wanted for my hair, but compatibly with my on the

592
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Speaker 1: go jampack lifestyle. I'll pop the link in the show

593
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Speaker 1: notes you are welcome. And I think the other thing.

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Speaker 1: I think we're both really lighthearted and positivity panda. We

595
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: get really heavy and deep philosophical. Sometimes we just look

596
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: at the stars for hours and hours and talk about

597
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: the meaning of life. But we also get triggered by

598
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: really emotional things like so triggered by beautiful stories and

599
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: feel good moments. And the other thing you can do

600
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: as a recommendation is to go and find beautiful stories

601
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood, which is obviously why Yighborhood Watches something

602
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: that I committed to to share good stories with you guys,

603
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: to compete with such negative news that's out there, but

604
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: also because it makes my day to go and find

605
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: beautiful things that are happening, even on a really really

606
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: small scale, and just make them well known. So, is

607
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: there anything you've seen over the past couple of weeks

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00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: that's really made you smile or like ant calls at

609
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: heart poke, which is so now. I don't know that

610
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: there's another I can't think of any other words that

611
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: describe it. But when something just pokes your heart because

612
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Speaker 1: it's so beautiful heart.

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Speaker 2: I live with my two grandmas, well Benoy and her sister,

614
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: like Judy's been stuck you for a while. So they

615
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: just provide immense amounts of joy because they're just so

616
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: funny and random. But there's definitely a patient that I

617
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: had earlier this year that I always reflect on because

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Speaker 2: they were just honestly, you would froth them. They were

619
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Speaker 2: the best patient ever. They were like ninety two or

620
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Speaker 2: something and they just come on and I was doing

621
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Speaker 2: home visits. But this patient had skydived at eighty five,

622
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Speaker 2: their grandson, and they were like, I just I just

623
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Speaker 2: want to live to one hundred. And they did this

624
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: thing with their hands that was so like old personally

625
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: and be like, you know, can you just show me

626
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Speaker 2: how you get out of bed? And they'd stand up

627
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: and they'd go, I was like, I just got do

628
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Speaker 2: just you know. Their goal was to live to one hundred,

629
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Speaker 2: and they were just that was their go I just

630
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Speaker 2: want to live for a hundred. And I wook every

631
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Speaker 2: day and I over this ramp, you know, I skyped

632
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: over when I was eighty five, and I walked the

633
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: kakoda and I ran a marathon and oh my, it

634
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: was just this person just full of life and just

635
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Speaker 2: so happy and yeah, it was just such a go getter.

636
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Speaker 2: And to be at that age, I was like, I

637
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: want to be you at that age. You know. Imagine

638
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Speaker 2: an eighty five year jumping out of an aeroplane with

639
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Speaker 2: his grandsons, just like just really full of life and

640
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: this bubbly guy, and yeah, it's going to be you. Often.

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Speaker 1: You're going to bet at like a ninety nine year

642
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Speaker 1: old who's like at a freaking no light snow like

643
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Speaker 1: or a disco party in a morph suit.

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Speaker 2: Lot.

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Speaker 3: Like.

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Speaker 1: One thing I love about you, though, and that's been

647
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Speaker 1: since we met, is that you are so indiscriminate about age,

648
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Speaker 1: which is not common. There is a lot of subtle agism,

649
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: even in the fact that the beauty industry and the

650
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: cosmetic beauty industry, and like even health and wellness is

651
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: subtlely based on avoiding aging. I feel like there's such

652
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: a negative connotation in where society at least about age.

653
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: And I know that you love Diana's episode because she,

654
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: for me was the turning point moment of not worrying

655
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: about age. Like age is relative. You can see a

656
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: sixty year old and another sixty year old who look

657
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: like they're three decades apart, because their mindset is one

658
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: is age is negative, and one is just embracing it

659
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: as experience. And she swam from Cuba to Florida at

660
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: the age of sixty five and just continues. She's seventy

661
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: two now and still is one of the youngest minded

662
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: people that I know. And it's so interesting. It's such

663
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: a good example to hear from people who don't treat

664
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: age as a negative thing because it makes you excited

665
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: about getting older and getting more experienced. Idea about I

666
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: think it's such a mindset.

667
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's almost like a social construct, to

668
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: be honest. I think it sad. This to someone the

669
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: other day who was a bit like, oh, you don't

670
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: count birthdays after your third And I was like, why no,

671
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 2: it's awesome, Like I think there's a quote on your books.

672
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: It's because I have no memory, That's why you know

673
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: what old I am. I didn't google it, remember it?

674
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: Feel about that. I was like, Genet, how one, two, three?

675
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. It's not because I'm negative. I

676
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: think age is negative because I'm just silly, just like.

677
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: It genuinely does not bother me. I don't think it

678
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: defines anyone at all. I think it's I couldn't tell

679
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: you how old any of my friends were, or it's

680
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: just pure connection. And I feel like if you're restrict

681
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: to you connect to and who you want to be

682
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: friends with, it's just because of an age, or it's

683
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: quite a judgmental thing. It's a bit like racing things.

684
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: But people don't obviously think about it. I would absolutely

685
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: if I had a best friend who was sixty five

686
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: like yourself, I wouldn't care a lot of friends who

687
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: are a lot older. But I genuinely don't think about

688
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: that ever in my life until it's put down as

689
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: a number. But even then it doesn't change any anything

690
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: for me. I just feel like if you just connect

691
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: with someone, you connect with someone regardless, it doesn't really matter. Yeah.

692
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: And also, people in different stages of the life can

693
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: teach you so many things. I feel that's what makes

694
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: me much more open minded is that I can have

695
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: friends that are older and then my age, and then

696
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: we have cousins who are younger and see the Huld

697
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: spectrum and how life genes and enrolls and looks different

698
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: in each time. And obviously being on the board, I'm

699
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: doing a lot with a lot of GEM patients at

700
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: the minute who are six or five and above, like

701
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: ninety to ninety nine, one hundred, and you just see

702
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: them and you're like, you're amazing.

703
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: You're here and you're pushing through and it's amazing. Oh,

704
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: that's beautiful.

705
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: Vim.

706
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: I found a couple of things that so we are

707
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: also hectically into the Olympics. Like we've all just had

708
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: this group message threat about the most beautiful things that

709
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: have come out of the Olympics, and I think, not

710
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: only is it because you were Necker obsessed with sport

711
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: and I get triggered by humanity. I think it's mainly

712
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: because of the human stories that come out of it

713
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: more than anything. And there's been so many beautiful things

714
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: that came out of the Olympics. Even if it wasn't

715
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: necessarily the Olympics everyone had hoped for, I still think

716
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: it brought so much joy. And I've shared a couple

717
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: from the last Years of Our Lives episode, but another

718
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: one that came out since then was the decathlon where

719
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: two If you guys haven't heard of it, it's such

720
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: a beautiful story. So Cedric Doubler was running alongside another Australian,

721
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: Ash Maloney, and Ash was running a lot further ahead.

722
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: He had a better chance at meddling in the race,

723
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: and Cedric sacrificed his race to help Maloney, who was

724
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: starting to flag, get across and win a bronze. And

725
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: it is just like, go and read the article's watch

726
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: the videos. It's just one of the most beautiful. Like,

727
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, I always say that quote about success doesn't

728
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: have when you share it at doubles, and like, competition

729
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: is important. Obviously in the Olympics, you'll literally it's the

730
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: definition of a competition. But to see someone who's spent

731
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: his whole life trying to get there and acknowledge that

732
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: his race was maybe over, but his teammate could get

733
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: there with a little bit of support, like Ash kept

734
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: saying that Cedric would come over and all he could

735
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: hear was him screaming in his face, I can't going

736
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: And I was like, what are you doing here? Man, Like, yeah,

737
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: that's me. It was just such a beautiful story. I

738
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: thought that was a really nice one.

739
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: No, I loved that one.

740
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

741
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: I also found a random see this is what makes

742
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: me happy about this section. It makes me go and

743
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: look for nice stories. There's a removalist company in Melbourne

744
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: that's helping LGBTQIA plus Melbournians move house safely without any

745
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: discrimination and like in a really safe environment, called Queer Move.

746
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: I think that is so lovely. I hadn't heard of it,

747
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: but I can imagine that there would be instances where

748
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: couples feel really persecuted or uncomfortable to let people into

749
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: their house, and moving house is such an intimate thing

750
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: to do, and there is I mean, as much as

751
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: society is evolving a lot, there are pockets of society

752
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: where there is still so much discrimination because of gender,

753
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: everything really race, as you mentioned before, gender, sexual preference,

754
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: all kinds of identifications. So I thought this was really

755
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: beautiful that queer Move was a service that's come to

756
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: life because of con That's so cool.

757
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: I love that. I'm so such a like equity advocate.

758
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: I love that a lot.

759
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: You know those things that you're just saying, I love

760
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: that someone did that. It's because people were having bad experiences.

761
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: So someone just was like, enough of this, We're going

762
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: to make queer move and we're going to move people. Okay,

763
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: give you a hand up?

764
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, hand up?

765
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: Do you legitimately have your hand up right now? I

766
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: love how I talk so much you have to put

767
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: your hand.

768
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: Interrupt But I thought of a really good one, but

769
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: all go. Yeah. So my friend messaged me this article

770
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: the other day in the Guardian for this invention that

771
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: Japanese people have made.

772
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: No, but I love Japanese inventions for things that we

773
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: all want. We all love that, but we all want them.

774
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: This is amazing. You're so for people that I am

775
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: giving birth and want their friends to meet their baby.

776
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: Obviously kind of lock down. This company have set up

777
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: a give business where you you send them a sack

778
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: of rice in the weight that the baby is, with

779
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: a picture of it.

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00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: I love Japan so much. There's an amazing, amazing BuzzFeed

781
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: article of all the inventions that have come out of

782
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: Japan that we all think are hysterically silly, but then

783
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: all want them because they're amazing.

784
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: Like the one with the toilet paper on your head,

785
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: that's my favorite one.

786
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, or the noodle splash to like the face mask

787
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: thing that protects your hair from noodle splash. Oh my god,

788
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: stop is that a bow? For a girl. One, it's

789
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: a girl bag of rice.

790
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: That's what's a girl. But they put the baby's face

791
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: on it and it's the same weight. That's what the

792
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: baby is.

793
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: It's so clever, hilarious as.

794
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 2: The cutest thing ever. I can imagine. It's any around

795
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: bags of rice when you just give.

796
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: And then they can eat the rice after. That's so,

797
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: why is it?

798
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: I was like, exactly, I would love that.

799
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, no, I think I would.

800
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: I probably liked to meet the child, but also free

801
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: bag of rice.

802
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd prefer I'd prefer the child, but then you

803
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: also can eat the rice, so that's great.

804
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 2: Quickly though, what's your quote?

805
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, you choose the quote, but what is your

806
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't pick a quote. Oh that's a good question.

807
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: You don't get to pick a quote, but you don't

808
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: like it's it's nice for people to also know where

809
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: you are.

810
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think probably every day may not be good,

811
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: but there's something good in every day. I think we've

812
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: been in a eighteen to twenty four month period now

813
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: where big chunks of it have not really been how

814
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: he had hoped and are full of disappointment and loss

815
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: of expectation and from big things like weddings and funerals,

816
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: to smaller things like birthdays or just milestones. And having

817
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: just spent most of my last five years really drilling

818
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: the importance of celebrating things and smelling the roses, you know,

819
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: I feel like I just got to making time for

820
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: that in my life, and then suddenly the ability to

821
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: do it was suddenly gone, unexpectedly. It's been really hard

822
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: to cultivate alternatives to that, ways to celebrate, or to

823
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: celebrate in a way that keeps you motivated to keep

824
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: doing what you do. It's Nick's birthday on Friday, and

825
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: we'd had a really cute weekend planned, and it's really

826
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: hard to sort of figure out how to acknowledge things

827
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: like that and create little moments of joy, particularly when

828
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: you work together and live together. But I think that

829
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: quote helps me be okay that, even as a positivity panda,

830
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: not every day feels good. In fact, a lot of

831
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: days have felt really hard, anxieties at an all time high,

832
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: but also fatigue, Like I'm genuinely sometimes not sure if

833
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm tired because I'm anxious, if I'm tired because I've

834
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: overdone it, if I'm tired because I've had chronic fatigue

835
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: in the past, and it's just a relapse, or if

836
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: it's just because there's so much going on in the

837
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: brain all the time. Yeah, But I think if you

838
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: commit to at least finding one good thing and every day,

839
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you have to feel grateful for everything,

840
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: like roof over my head, you know, moving limbs, like

841
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: that's really important. Of course I'm grateful for those things,

842
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: but to consciously find a new thing that is good

843
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: about that day, even like this conversation or a joke

844
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: that makes you laugh, you know, those small things. I

845
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: don't even know how I could explain that to people

846
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: in a way that they'd understand. I'm sorry like that, Okay.

847
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: So we both study Japanese at school, and I know

848
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm even looking at the title of what I made,

849
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: what I named it Austin.

850
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: We just love the Japanese language and we love katakana

851
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: and turn these like Western words into Japanese with the

852
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: cut kind of is like ice cream.

853
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: Is I sukurim rou and Australia is also, And we

854
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: got into this weird fit of adding fudu to everything

855
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: because it's.

856
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 2: A kind of funny like sound of it. So Anyway,

857
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: we digress, but I did want to say that your

858
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: whole thing of finding something that you great for and

859
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: celebrating things, even small things, I think you're one of

860
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: the best people that I know or have taught me.

861
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: This is how you celebrate other people. And somehow, as

862
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: tired as you ever can be or ever are, you

863
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: have always been able to celebrate me or your friends

864
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: or nick really wholeheartedly and really genuinely. So I don't

865
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: know if that's because you just thrive off the energy

866
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: and get that endorphin or serotonin hint from celebrating other people,

867
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 2: but somehow you still seem to do it so well,

868
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: So I know, I think people can try practicing that

869
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: as well, celebrating other people and other people's wings. Like

870
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: just before this call, I had a call from a

871
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: friend who had got her dream job, and I was like,

872
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: like to the point where I was like, is this

873
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: the sedatives or is this what it actually feels like?

874
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: So that was just Yeah, that whole Dak kills.

875
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: More James and fay ever will come into play. It's

876
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: just that there's a lot of quotes floating around at

877
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: the minute.

878
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, but they all mean something. I think and

879
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that the podcast for me twice

880
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: a week, like most of the time there's two guests,

881
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: sometimes there's only one, but at least once a week,

882
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: maybe twice, to get to celebrate someone else's story and

883
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: what they're doing, particularly if there's someone I've followed since

884
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: they hadn't hit the dreams that they maybe have since then.

885
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: Like all those things, I almost get more excited. Like

886
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: when Sophi announced her book, she was posting the post,

887
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: the announcement post while we were recording, and my face

888
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: is more squish than her face, Like I was so excited.

889
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: We're not even really close friends. Like I just get

890
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: so excited for other people, And I think we all do, really,

891
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: we all love to celebrate the people we love doing

892
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: really well. But focusing on that and like spending a

893
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: little moment to get lost in that it makes your

894
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: day better, but also allowing myself to be like the

895
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: day overall might not have been a good day, it

896
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be. Even as a positive person, Like

897
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: my identity is really tied up in being positive and

898
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: seeing the silver linings and lifting up others and finding

899
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: the yay. But if I only find five minutes of yeah,

900
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: in one day that doesn't matter. The rest of the

901
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: day is allowed to feel luck. And that's been something

902
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: I've had to allow myself to do as well, because

903
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: otherwise you're masking and then that's why you're tired, because

904
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: you're putting on joy because you feel like you should

905
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: and like it's this vicious cycle. Yeah, so I think

906
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: that's why I keep saying in all my posts as well,

907
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: like be gentle on yourself if you feel weird and

908
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: you're having a weird reaction and you're tired, or you're

909
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: run down or your whatever, and you don't know why,

910
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: and you're like, nothing big has really happened. Two years

911
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: of big has happened. So if you feel weird on

912
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: a particular day, that's probably why. Don't overthink it, but

913
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: also don't try and push it away. You'll find one

914
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: moment of joy that day and that's enough. If that's

915
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: all you did, that's totally fine.

916
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: But even if you don't feel driven that day, that's

917
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: okay too.

918
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay.

919
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: I think this is like the prime time of the whole.

920
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: It's okay to be emotional or have feelings or feel

921
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: a lot or feel too much I don't think this

922
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: is such a thing of feeling too much. But I

923
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: think if you, you know, if you I send your

924
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: whole textans you're just saying all the reasons why I

925
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: love you, I'd hope that ten minutes after, I didn't

926
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: regret that because I felt I was like me or

927
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: too attached or whatever that is. You think it's age,

928
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: which I'm actually not ashamed of being. If that's what like,

929
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: it genuinely doesn't bother me. If it means that if

930
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: I died tomorrow and they know that they were truly

931
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: loved by me and all the feelings that I had

932
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: towards them, and how much how grateful that I am,

933
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: I couldn't care that's what people thought of me, or

934
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: the perception that people had of me. If it meant

935
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: that I genuinely they felt love, They felt like they

936
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: were they belonged in somewhere, and they felt, you know,

937
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: they were seen, and that's all that matters really at

938
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: the end of the day. So I don't gratitude totally

939
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: get that, Yeah, that was all.

940
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: Sorry for That's just spend forty minutes. Forty minutes I

941
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: was on the floor, on the floor, you just kept

942
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: saying words back and forth to each other, are dead sober,

943
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: and just could not contain myself. It was just so funny.

944
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: I was so that was a moment at the end

945
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: of the day in my gratitude journal, I was like

946
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: that moment, it was just so funny. I kud It

947
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: made me laugh for like eight hours. We were just like,

948
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: it was like delirious.

949
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: You and your best mates just get into it, delirium ents.

950
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: You're just in historics for absolutely seriously no reason. Like

951
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: in hindsight, I reckock when we listen to this back

952
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 2: and listen to the explanation of why we think it's

953
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: so funny, but you at all, that's not even funny

954
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: one little bit. But somehow, like Sarah's named this link.

955
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 2: She sent me this link for this thing, and it says,

956
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: you know, sports slash, poor slash. That's what we said.

957
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: Even when I listened to you explaining it this time,

958
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, it's really not that funny. That's

959
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: so funny anyway, bim your recommendation for this week, book, movie, show, YouTube, clip,

960
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: TikTok real, anything that made you smile other than having

961
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: a colonoscopy this morning.

962
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: We always say the whole thing without actually saying what

963
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: the procedure was? You conservative? I was.

964
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I had to proceedure this morning. She

965
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: had a nose, she had a boob job. That's why

966
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: we called breakference forever.

967
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: I actually blogged my column must be prepped because it

968
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: was just shut mental.

969
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: It was.

970
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: I was a little twenty times in the kidding.

971
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: It's really, how many vlogs have you done that you've

972
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: never released to the universe. You vlog everything, and they

973
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: just don't edit them so much.

974
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: If I could, I said to you, if I could

975
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: quit and just do one thing like my job and

976
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: do one thing forever, I would just want to story

977
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: tell and create videos to storyteller for the rest of

978
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: my life. I just love it so much. But yeah, sorry, books,

979
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: I've already just started reading again, And I say again,

980
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: but I just started reading ever so ready educated at

981
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: the moment, I'm about seventeen pages in, so one page

982
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: more than I was for.

983
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: It's so good. I was going to say, you won't

984
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: be able to put it down. You put it down

985
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: like more times than you picked it up. But that's fine.

986
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: It's a brilliant, brilliant book.

987
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: A friend has got me into the office.

988
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: I think I'm a bit like, oh my god, she's

989
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: finally there. So funny, Yeah, so funny the office.

990
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 2: And I've reinvigorated my love for friends.

991
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: Yes, me too, went back to the start. So good.

992
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I really love And there's this comedian who's

993
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 2: on like, I just find her hilarious. She just pops

994
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: up to my feet sometimes and everything that comes at

995
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: her mouth is just so good. Melanie, and I fear

996
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: her last name. But she's from New Zealand and she's

997
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 2: on what's that Teva show on Monday nights. That's really

998
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 2: funny that Sampang's in it. How then you know.

999
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, ed can watch away? You

1000
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: know this? How we'll google it and put in the

1001
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: show notes.

1002
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: Anyway, she's got a new show also, Cheap Seats, and

1003
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: that just comes up on my feed sometimes that her

1004
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: name is Melanie something. I'm really not plugging this very

1005
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: well impersonation. She's hilarious, Like, you gotta follow her. She

1006
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: does it really really well. And then the last one

1007
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: is great and Mama, you have to follow Grandma. It's

1008
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: this little Vietnamese boy like Toddler the US. I just

1009
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 2: love him. He makes me very very happy. Grand Mama

1010
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: on Instagram follow him. He's got these chubby cheeks and

1011
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: bowld haircut and bull hair. Loves food to the moon

1012
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: and back. And he has these videos where he's always

1013
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: says thank He's a really really poor is it really

1014
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 2: amazing matters and always says to thank you Mama when

1015
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: she gives him food. She does this compilation of like

1016
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: fifty times he goes and cleets his food and it

1017
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: be goes tak your mama, tak your mama. Think and

1018
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: it's these big chicks and it's like a waffles or

1019
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: pancakes or grape or I can say, take your mama.

1020
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: It's just honestly you. I love it. It makes it's

1021
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 2: a hard poke page. So that's my recommendations.

1022
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so cute. I love them. I

1023
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: only have one to add to that, which is similar.

1024
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: It's like a TikTok account that's also on Instagram that

1025
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: just makes me so hat like. It's just cute and happy.

1026
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: There's a guy called is it Kby or Carby? Oh

1027
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: is yeah. So he's a twenty one year old from

1028
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: Senegal who lives in Italy and he's just basically started

1029
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: this random account I think when he was when he

1030
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: lost his job last year, and he does these like

1031
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: short skits where he just sarcastically points out to people

1032
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: doing really simple tasks, like, for example, how America like

1033
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: two billion dollars making a pen that would write in space,

1034
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: and the Russians were just like, just use a pencil

1035
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: like that kind of thing where people do really simple

1036
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: task but make them really complicated. And then he doesn't

1037
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: even speak in the videos. He just does this like

1038
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: cute little face about it, and it's Scott like, like,

1039
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: he's worth nearly two million dollars now and he's the

1040
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: second most followed TikTok accounts in the world. It's amazing.

1041
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: He lost job and now he's like a millionaire.

1042
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: I rate him.

1043
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, yeah, he's great, he's great.

1044
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: I remember the name. I looked it up, Melanie Bracewell.

1045
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: Amazing and the show is that she is sometimes have

1046
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: been Pott. I said the attention one, the attention one. Yeah,

1047
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: that was that what usually you would know, you know,

1048
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: Sarah speak Sarah Nese.

1049
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: No, we but remember I'm hard.

1050
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. This is basically guys, basically anyway, BIM,

1051
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining. This was an absolute

1052
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: yay of my life.

1053
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: We always we did.

1054
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, BIAM. Hopefully see you soon.

1055
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 2: No thanks for having me, monsieur