WEBVTT - The Babysitter's Dead 0:00:09.387 --> 0:00:13.076 May I have a question, a concern slash something to 0:00:13.086 --> 0:00:17.187 confront you with? You know, in your babble? I actually 0:00:17.196 --> 0:00:19.917 went and watched one in B do you watch that? 0:00:19.927 --> 0:00:22.387 I watch that. I got a news called B and 0:00:22.396 --> 0:00:24.316 Insta Babble is what I do when I babble on 0:00:24.326 --> 0:00:30.556 Insta OK, I accidentally played three times in a row. 0:00:30.736 --> 0:00:32.837 I watched that one. I went. Are people watching this shit? 0:00:32.847 --> 0:00:33.437 This is a kind of 0:00:33.948 --> 0:00:36.948 people want to watch and then you go sorry and 0:00:36.958 --> 0:00:38.878 then you sneezed again and I was like, and she, 0:00:39.348 --> 0:00:42.088 she looked at her engagement stats and saw the sneezing. 0:00:43.878 --> 0:00:47.388 All the comments were bless you, bless you. Good for engagement. 0:00:47.399 --> 0:00:49.739 But my concern is not only about your sneezing but 0:00:49.748 --> 0:00:52.568 you know, when you use a beauty blender, I've noticed 0:00:52.579 --> 0:00:55.388 this in meetings and I haven't said anything. I thought 0:00:55.399 --> 0:00:57.709 that the point of a beauty blender was that you, 0:00:59.020 --> 0:01:01.180 but when you do a beauty blender, you use it 0:01:01.191 --> 0:01:04.290 like you would use a brush and it bothers me 0:01:04.301 --> 0:01:05.941 because I think too much products getting on the blender, 0:01:05.950 --> 0:01:07.580 not enough on your face. I don't think it's efficient. 0:01:07.591 --> 0:01:12.141 Do you think that's my problem. I think that's the 0:01:12.150 --> 0:01:15.441 least of our problems. I know also, it's meant to 0:01:15.451 --> 0:01:17.841 be moist. It's meant to be moist and the people 0:01:17.850 --> 0:01:19.561 on Tiktok who show me how to do it, but 0:01:19.570 --> 0:01:21.981 I can never find water when I need to do it. It's, 0:01:22.322 --> 0:01:28.993 I'm in a rush, don't? It has been done. Look, 0:01:29.002 --> 0:01:30.603 we'll have to ask Lee Campbell or we'll have to 0:01:30.612 --> 0:01:33.252 ask the beauty. But I have a feeling it's a dab, 0:01:33.262 --> 0:01:36.133 not a life situation, but it's bothering me. I really 0:01:36.143 --> 0:01:39.103 love the way it feels on my face pounce. I 0:01:39.112 --> 0:01:42.773 think that's what the beauty people call it. The pounce. 0:01:43.143 --> 0:01:46.593 It's a cross between a press and a bounce. 0:01:51.997 --> 0:01:55.407 Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia out loud. What women 0:01:55.416 --> 0:01:58.456 are actually talking about on Friday the 22nd of March 0:01:58.467 --> 0:02:02.166 with no added sneezing. I am Holly Wainwright. I'm Mia 0:02:02.177 --> 0:02:05.357 Friedman and I'm Jessie Stevens. And on the show today 0:02:05.467 --> 0:02:09.816 Australia is the babysitter dead. No, not like that. 0:02:10.247 --> 0:02:13.306 Also, Jessie and I finally watched some of the movies 0:02:13.316 --> 0:02:15.986 from the Oscars and we're gonna tell you what's worth 0:02:15.997 --> 0:02:20.666 your time and trying a new thing, a back disaster 0:02:20.877 --> 0:02:25.196 and the inevitable chat about color seasons. Yes, it's best 0:02:25.207 --> 0:02:28.386 and worst. Welcome to our Fun Friday show. But first Jessie, 0:02:28.806 --> 0:02:30.457 in case you missed it, I'm breaking the rules. I'm 0:02:30.467 --> 0:02:32.607 throwing in a Friday in case you missed it. There 0:02:32.616 --> 0:02:35.497 are four things you should know this weekend before putting 0:02:35.506 --> 0:02:37.907 on a load of laundry. If you're anything like me, 0:02:38.247 --> 0:02:39.877 you're gonna be doing a lot of laundry on the weekend. 0:02:39.886 --> 0:02:42.997 And I learnt rules. I like laundry. I think you 0:02:43.006 --> 0:02:45.196 might be good at it because Holly and I were 0:02:45.207 --> 0:02:47.517 just touching some of your clothes in the other room. 0:02:47.526 --> 0:02:50.726 And we were saying they're not destroyed like our clothes, 0:02:50.836 --> 0:02:53.487 we were choking them, sniffing them. 0:02:54.717 --> 0:02:56.827 We were saying they're just not destroyed. 0:02:57.717 --> 0:03:00.747 There's a woman named Laura de Barra and she's a 0:03:00.756 --> 0:03:03.166 laundry expert. She's written a book about it. I'll buy 0:03:03.176 --> 0:03:05.146 it for you for Christmas meal. It's about how to 0:03:05.157 --> 0:03:07.916 wash your clothes properly, which means that they'll last longer, 0:03:07.926 --> 0:03:10.107 color won't fade, they'll keep their shape and here are 0:03:10.116 --> 0:03:12.916 four tips. Genuinely did not know. The first is that 0:03:12.926 --> 0:03:14.497 when you put anything in your washing machine, 0:03:14.946 --> 0:03:17.586 you've got to do up the zipper. Did you know that? 0:03:17.597 --> 0:03:19.446 I didn't know that? Because if you don't do up 0:03:19.457 --> 0:03:22.207 your zipper, then it's open, the teeth are open and 0:03:22.217 --> 0:03:25.077 it's catching on your cottons and it's ruining your clothes. 0:03:25.306 --> 0:03:27.567 And it also probably changes the shape of it a 0:03:27.577 --> 0:03:29.327 little bit because it can get a little bit pulled 0:03:29.336 --> 0:03:32.086 out of shape. So part of that rule, the zipper 0:03:32.097 --> 0:03:34.077 is that all the buttons on any of your clothes 0:03:34.086 --> 0:03:35.726 need to be completely undone. Because 0:03:35.832 --> 0:03:39.771 otherwise, if they're done up then in the cycle they'll pull, 0:03:39.782 --> 0:03:42.222 you'll lose the shape from your shoulders and stuff. So 0:03:42.232 --> 0:03:45.372 buttons undone, but zip done up. What about if you've 0:03:45.381 --> 0:03:49.151 got metal buttons, like, on jeans? Oh, good point. Because 0:03:49.161 --> 0:03:50.812 I feel that that is somewhere in the middle of 0:03:50.821 --> 0:03:54.732 those two things. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. I doing them 0:03:54.741 --> 0:03:56.592 up now I think do them up. Ok. 0:03:57.226 --> 0:04:00.347 Cool. Wash as much as possible. A hot wash apparently 0:04:00.357 --> 0:04:03.047 fades the dye. I did know that. I didn't know that. 0:04:03.056 --> 0:04:07.026 That's one I knew. Number three fast wash. No, no. What? 0:04:07.036 --> 0:04:10.696 Horrific for clothes. It's horrific for the clothes because temperature 0:04:10.976 --> 0:04:15.067 is fast wash. The temperature is too hot. And apparently 0:04:15.077 --> 0:04:17.726 she talks about agitation on your fibers, right? 0:04:18.036 --> 0:04:19.976 And so when you put it in, it's like it's 0:04:19.987 --> 0:04:22.556 pulling all the fibers and when it's fast it's just pulling, pulling, 0:04:22.567 --> 0:04:25.237 pulling and like your clothes have just but sorry when 0:04:25.247 --> 0:04:28.076 you say fast, you don't mean quick in time. You 0:04:28.086 --> 0:04:30.646 mean fast spin I think? Is that what you mean? 0:04:30.657 --> 0:04:33.567 Because I've got like an express cycle. A very quick 0:04:33.576 --> 0:04:35.606 wash which is only 15 minutes and I don't see 0:04:35.616 --> 0:04:37.657 why that would make her sad. Does it go quicker 0:04:37.667 --> 0:04:40.306 than a normal cycle? Because it goes for 15 minutes? 0:04:40.317 --> 0:04:43.426 Not an hour. But is the actual cycling quicker? That's 0:04:43.437 --> 0:04:46.717 a different thing. That's like the speed of the spinning. 0:04:46.727 --> 0:04:47.766 Too many questions. 0:04:47.887 --> 0:04:49.896 Many questions just don't do it. I feel like the 0:04:49.907 --> 0:04:52.447 things you're telling me are raising more questions. OK. Well, 0:04:52.456 --> 0:04:54.717 number four is very clear. I have follow ups. Yeah. 0:04:54.727 --> 0:04:56.556 Go on. Are you two across where you're meant to 0:04:56.567 --> 0:04:58.616 put the laundry detergent and where you're meant to put 0:04:58.627 --> 0:05:02.067 the softener. Depends on your machine, doesn't it? According to Laura, 0:05:02.257 --> 0:05:05.497 I don't use softener. Oh, do you? No, I use, 0:05:05.926 --> 0:05:08.437 I use softener. Oh, I've got a friend who's obsessed with, 0:05:08.447 --> 0:05:13.197 don't know, deal that I don't use softer. So, what 0:05:13.206 --> 0:05:16.007 you have to do the detergent, some people are putting 0:05:16.016 --> 0:05:17.627 it on their far left hand side. 0:05:18.157 --> 0:05:21.276 Don't do that very bad. It's something prewashed something, something 0:05:21.287 --> 0:05:24.967 you're meant to put your detergent far right corner, that 0:05:24.977 --> 0:05:28.306 sort of last one and the mythical and then in 0:05:28.317 --> 0:05:30.826 the middle one and apparently that really matters because it's, 0:05:30.836 --> 0:05:33.766 when it's released into the wash, I have those holes. 0:05:33.776 --> 0:05:38.296 You definitely have those. We all have the same holes, holes. Yeah. 0:05:38.606 --> 0:05:40.706 How come your clothes aren't shit? What are you doing? 0:05:40.896 --> 0:05:43.597 I think you separate things. I buy the new ones. 0:05:49.217 --> 0:05:52.997 Is the babysitter dead. I don't mean in a horror 0:05:53.007 --> 0:05:54.947 movie kind of a way, although more on that in 0:05:54.956 --> 0:05:58.287 a minute, I mean, teenagers making a bit of extra 0:05:58.296 --> 0:06:02.116 money around the neighborhood looking after the little kids if 0:06:02.127 --> 0:06:05.586 you think about it, certainly in American culture, but therefore 0:06:05.597 --> 0:06:08.986 has seeped into all our culture. The teenage babysitter is 0:06:08.997 --> 0:06:11.317 an icon used to be an icon, right? 0:06:11.567 --> 0:06:14.276 She's either tempting the dads who are looking at her 0:06:14.287 --> 0:06:17.836 in an inappropriate way in like schlocky daytime movies or 0:06:17.847 --> 0:06:20.486 she's being terrorized by a serial killer in horror movies 0:06:20.497 --> 0:06:23.736 like in Halloween or she's off solving mysteries in the 0:06:23.747 --> 0:06:24.697 babysitters club. 0:06:25.377 --> 0:06:29.477 But apparently they are disappearing. And an essay in the 0:06:29.486 --> 0:06:32.866 Atlantic called Don't Tell America. The babysitters dead by Faith 0:06:32.877 --> 0:06:36.567 Hill explored why. Actually the neighborhood babysitter is a thing 0:06:36.576 --> 0:06:39.046 of the past and here are a couple of theories 0:06:39.056 --> 0:06:40.356 why that's true. 0:06:41.067 --> 0:06:44.116 One of them is that we no longer think teenagers 0:06:44.127 --> 0:06:46.736 are responsible enough to be able to look after Children 0:06:47.217 --> 0:06:49.697 and where we may once have thought that a 12 0:06:49.706 --> 0:06:52.567 year old could probably look after a younger child. Now, 0:06:52.576 --> 0:06:55.806 people generally think a 12 year old needs a babysitter. 0:06:55.817 --> 0:06:59.167 That's so interesting. There used to be a kind of 0:06:59.176 --> 0:07:04.227 specific sort of age bracket that we gave to babysitters. 0:07:04.236 --> 0:07:05.757 And it's in this article, 0:07:05.856 --> 0:07:09.456 li um historian of Childhood explains it by saying that 0:07:09.467 --> 0:07:12.056 around 12 or 13, often if you were having a 0:07:12.067 --> 0:07:14.826 babysitter come, you'd probably put the kids to bed or 0:07:14.836 --> 0:07:17.576 very close to and maybe even stock the fridge with 0:07:17.586 --> 0:07:20.706 a few snacks for the babysitter. And she says they 0:07:20.717 --> 0:07:23.067 recognized that she was grown up enough to be an 0:07:23.076 --> 0:07:24.456 extra eye in the home, 0:07:24.757 --> 0:07:28.016 but childlike enough to go looking for snacks. And it's true, right? 0:07:28.026 --> 0:07:31.997 That kind of particular era. Another theory is that our 0:07:32.007 --> 0:07:35.667 communities have changed. So if your babysitter was, as she 0:07:35.676 --> 0:07:37.637 very often was, and I certainly was when I was 0:07:37.646 --> 0:07:41.127 babysitting your friend's daughter. So a kid you've been watching 0:07:41.137 --> 0:07:44.366 grow up over years, maybe the world's not like that now. 0:07:44.377 --> 0:07:47.417 And you don't have those kind of close relationships with 0:07:47.426 --> 0:07:49.537 your friend's kids because you're more likely to socialize with 0:07:49.546 --> 0:07:50.217 them separately. 0:07:51.097 --> 0:07:54.937 Another thing is we're more anxious about all the things 0:07:54.947 --> 0:07:56.727 that might go wrong. So I asked in the out 0:07:56.736 --> 0:07:58.986 loud as Facebook group about whether or not the babysitter 0:07:58.997 --> 0:08:02.396 was dead here. One person wrote, yes, I won't have 0:08:02.407 --> 0:08:05.787 someone babysit unless they can do CPR and are an adult. 0:08:05.926 --> 0:08:08.836 I wouldn't want the trauma on a child if something happened. 0:08:09.287 --> 0:08:11.426 And another person said I would, if I had teens, 0:08:11.437 --> 0:08:13.687 I wouldn't let them sit for other people's Children because 0:08:13.697 --> 0:08:16.377 if anything went wrong, there would be no end to 0:08:16.387 --> 0:08:20.497 the fallout. So we're all helicoptering. The babysitters being the 0:08:20.507 --> 0:08:25.356 teens as well as helicoptering the Children being babysat. Exactly. 0:08:26.097 --> 0:08:29.456 And then another theory is that parents just go out less, 0:08:29.467 --> 0:08:31.687 which is partly money, of course, but this is a 0:08:31.697 --> 0:08:34.236 bigger picture than recent cozy living pressures. 0:08:34.637 --> 0:08:37.106 Parents have more fun things to do at home. We're 0:08:37.116 --> 0:08:39.817 cocooning with our technology and all that kind of stuff. 0:08:39.877 --> 0:08:42.286 So the sort of stereotype that we've seen in lots 0:08:42.296 --> 0:08:44.476 of movies, which is at least once a week. Mom 0:08:44.486 --> 0:08:46.786 and dad might go out. And when I was a kid, 0:08:46.846 --> 0:08:49.906 my parents went out every Friday night, they went to 0:08:49.916 --> 0:08:52.536 the pub with their friends, every Friday night and we 0:08:52.546 --> 0:08:55.137 had babysitters and my parents were teachers. So they had 0:08:55.147 --> 0:08:59.637 like a never ending because my mom taught like sixth 0:08:59.647 --> 0:09:02.096 form kids. So like 16 to 18, 0:09:02.356 --> 0:09:05.106 we had a never ending stream of 16 to 18 0:09:05.116 --> 0:09:07.156 year olds who would look after us on a Friday night. 0:09:07.447 --> 0:09:09.716 And they're saying that these days parents are less likely 0:09:09.726 --> 0:09:12.457 to have that kind of regular schedule. 0:09:13.337 --> 0:09:15.887 What do we think? I have a few theories about 0:09:15.897 --> 0:09:18.277 what's happened. The first was actually brought up in that 0:09:18.286 --> 0:09:21.726 Jonathan height article we talked about recently, which was about 0:09:21.736 --> 0:09:26.036 globalization and the effect of a 24 hour news cycle 0:09:26.046 --> 0:09:28.736 and getting every story delivered to us all the time. 0:09:28.747 --> 0:09:32.017 And apparently this started changing in say the 19 eighties 0:09:32.156 --> 0:09:33.916 where every time something horrible happened 0:09:33.979 --> 0:09:36.160 to a kid, we heard about it. And so the 0:09:36.169 --> 0:09:38.600 sense of danger is a lot more imminent and even 0:09:38.609 --> 0:09:41.410 the CPR thing, right? It's great to have someone looking 0:09:41.419 --> 0:09:43.549 after your kid who, who can do CPR. But our 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:48.119 sense that that would need to happen is statistically disproportionate 0:09:48.129 --> 0:09:50.590 because we've all heard that horror story or we've all 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.809 heard the horror story about the teen babysitter that does 0:09:52.819 --> 0:09:54.689 something wrong. The other thing that people 0:09:54.773 --> 0:09:57.752 are really, really conscious about is any sort of sexual abuse. 0:09:57.762 --> 0:10:00.153 Like I haven't heard a horror story about a teenage 0:10:00.163 --> 0:10:03.392 babysitter that's just something going like, and I know that 0:10:03.403 --> 0:10:08.033 fear especially, you know, with little little kids is high 0:10:08.332 --> 0:10:11.653 but the fear that your baby or that your child 0:10:11.663 --> 0:10:14.233 will choke or knock their head or have some like 0:10:14.242 --> 0:10:15.432 health catastrophe. 0:10:15.817 --> 0:10:18.397 I don't think that was as present a generation or 0:10:18.406 --> 0:10:22.616 two ago because we weren't being bombarded with parental anxiety 0:10:22.627 --> 0:10:26.077 was not as high as it is now, not as widespread. 0:10:26.247 --> 0:10:30.077 The other thing I think is happening is that it's 0:10:30.087 --> 0:10:32.656 a result of this sense that you can't look 0:10:32.772 --> 0:10:35.392 after kids unless you have a qualification. So because of 0:10:35.402 --> 0:10:42.241 the professionalization of the child educator industry, there's a sense 0:10:42.252 --> 0:10:44.372 now that you do need to have done the courses 0:10:44.382 --> 0:10:45.921 and you do need to have all the training in 0:10:45.931 --> 0:10:48.471 order to look after kids. And that wasn't necessarily the 0:10:48.481 --> 0:10:49.622 case all those years ago. 0:10:50.277 --> 0:10:53.767 And the other is that the working mums, I know 0:10:54.426 --> 0:10:56.046 we know that if you are living in a city, 0:10:56.056 --> 0:10:58.527 then most of the time you need both parents working 0:10:59.317 --> 0:11:02.687 when working moms aren't at work, they feel like they 0:11:02.697 --> 0:11:05.777 have to be at home. So even I'm finding the 0:11:05.786 --> 0:11:10.277 time that I get with Luna feels so and you know, again, 0:11:10.286 --> 0:11:13.137 that's little kids, but it feels like I almost can't 0:11:13.147 --> 0:11:16.056 go out on a Friday or a Saturday night because 0:11:16.447 --> 0:11:18.817 that's the not the only time, but that's the time 0:11:18.827 --> 0:11:21.377 that I get with her. Same with single parents because 0:11:21.387 --> 0:11:23.656 you're a single parent and you're sharing custody, 0:11:24.197 --> 0:11:26.406 you don't want to get a babysitter on the night 0:11:26.416 --> 0:11:29.356 you've got your kids or your partner might give you 0:11:29.366 --> 0:11:30.997 a hard time or you're trying to save money or 0:11:31.007 --> 0:11:32.916 you'll just go out on the nights that you don't 0:11:32.926 --> 0:11:36.786 have your kids. So, it's interesting because in the out 0:11:36.796 --> 0:11:38.796 loudest Facebook group, lots of people said that they did 0:11:38.806 --> 0:11:42.897 still use teenage babysitters in specific situations, right? So people 0:11:42.906 --> 0:11:45.957 say that if you think about this idyllic, you know, 0:11:45.966 --> 0:11:49.197 the American movie stereotype of the idyllic suburban neighborhood, 0:11:49.627 --> 0:11:52.777 then it works really well because they're usually your neighbors, 0:11:52.786 --> 0:11:55.337 they live nearby. So like one out louder writes teenage 0:11:55.346 --> 0:11:57.966 neighbors are the best babysitters. They're keen, they're affordable and 0:11:57.976 --> 0:12:00.236 you can walk them safely back home across the street 0:12:00.247 --> 0:12:02.866 or next door. If you've had a few drinks and 0:12:02.897 --> 0:12:05.757 crucially their own parents are usually home. So there's 0:12:05.892 --> 0:12:09.372 this added safety net. So it can be if something 0:12:09.382 --> 0:12:11.022 did go wrong, they could call and mom could be 0:12:11.031 --> 0:12:13.642 there in a minute. But I have another theory which 0:12:13.652 --> 0:12:16.122 is also, it's about if we think that they're very 0:12:16.132 --> 0:12:20.471 often female teenage babysitters, it's about the idea of possibly 0:12:20.481 --> 0:12:25.181 exposing them to adults that you don't know, like fear 0:12:25.192 --> 0:12:28.051 of that because some people said I'd let my 14 0:12:28.062 --> 0:12:29.911 year old daughter babysit for people. I know, but I'd 0:12:29.921 --> 0:12:32.712 never let her babysit for strangers. And again, to that 0:12:32.721 --> 0:12:35.341 thing of us all being very panicky about stuff. 0:12:35.687 --> 0:12:38.497 Again, from those movies, the dad drives the teenage girl 0:12:38.507 --> 0:12:41.536 home after the shift is finished or whatever. Now we 0:12:41.546 --> 0:12:44.207 would be like, oh, what if that something happens? Da, da, 0:12:44.277 --> 0:12:47.176 da da. And which obviously has happened in history. But 0:12:47.187 --> 0:12:49.036 should we all be afraid of that all the time? 0:12:49.046 --> 0:12:50.616 I wonder what's lost because I 0:12:51.046 --> 0:12:52.656 used to babysit all the time when I was a 0:12:52.666 --> 0:12:56.786 teenager and sometimes I did stupid things. Like I let 0:12:56.796 --> 0:12:59.397 kids stay up too late. I'd let them watch a 0:12:59.406 --> 0:13:02.007 horror movie. I would, you know, do all kinds of 0:13:02.017 --> 0:13:04.257 things you weren't supposed to do but, you know, no harm, 0:13:04.267 --> 0:13:06.476 no foul. I don't think anything really bad happened. I'd 0:13:06.486 --> 0:13:10.866 sneak my boyfriend in, you know, I'd raid their cupboards. 0:13:10.877 --> 0:13:15.306 But again, like, this is all just silly teenage stuff 0:13:15.317 --> 0:13:15.666 that 0:13:16.127 --> 0:13:19.106 I don't know if we just lost the tolerance for imperfection, 0:13:19.156 --> 0:13:21.546 you know? Yeah. I only babysat a couple of times 0:13:21.556 --> 0:13:23.416 when I was little because I just found it boring. 0:13:23.426 --> 0:13:26.207 I did it mostly for the snacks because my parents 0:13:26.216 --> 0:13:28.137 never had good snacks. So I'd go and I'd just 0:13:28.147 --> 0:13:31.187 look for snacks, but I wasn't that interested and it 0:13:31.197 --> 0:13:33.356 didn't serve me well when I had Children because I 0:13:33.366 --> 0:13:36.486 had no experience. I hadn't babysat. I had never looked 0:13:36.497 --> 0:13:38.897 after I'd never changed a nappy. I'd never looked after 0:13:38.906 --> 0:13:42.707 anyone's child. It also depends how old your kid is. Right. 0:13:42.716 --> 0:13:44.426 Because if your kid's a certain age 0:13:44.866 --> 0:13:47.837 they can tell you. I hated having babysitters. We never 0:13:47.846 --> 0:13:50.377 had young babysitters. I would have liked that. We always 0:13:50.387 --> 0:13:56.527 had older babysitters. They were old and like, mother and 0:13:56.536 --> 0:13:59.736 grandmother types. They were not fun. Yeah, that's the other thing. Right, 0:13:59.747 --> 0:14:01.207 is that because of 0:14:01.387 --> 0:14:04.387 university, if you had the choice about getting a 13 0:14:04.397 --> 0:14:07.187 year old babysitter or a 23 year old babysitter who's 0:14:07.197 --> 0:14:10.806 finishing a university degree and also needs some casual work. 0:14:10.817 --> 0:14:13.447 You're probably gonna choose a 23 year old. So this 0:14:13.457 --> 0:14:16.286 delayed adulthood where people are doing more casual work for 0:14:16.296 --> 0:14:17.806 longer also means that 0:14:18.056 --> 0:14:20.757 there are more people that are potentially able to do it. 0:14:21.077 --> 0:14:22.697 I was sitting there going, I grew up on the 0:14:22.707 --> 0:14:25.437 babysitters club, read it all the time. They were 13, 0:14:25.447 --> 0:14:28.716 there was one of them that was 1111, lots of 0:14:28.726 --> 0:14:31.036 people said in the out loudest group, they said that they, 0:14:31.046 --> 0:14:33.077 when they were young and I certainly did this, they 0:14:33.087 --> 0:14:35.846 looked after little babies and now they've got b 0:14:36.046 --> 0:14:38.786 yeah, like I couldn't imagine letting a 14 year old 0:14:38.796 --> 0:14:41.176 look after them. But again, this is just all this 0:14:41.187 --> 0:14:44.387 fear and panic because personally I'm a big believer that 0:14:44.397 --> 0:14:46.716 parents should go out. Like, I think parents have to 0:14:46.726 --> 0:14:49.837 have lives outside of their kids. It was modeled to me, 0:14:49.846 --> 0:14:51.866 I guess. So. I, with my parents and their Friday 0:14:51.877 --> 0:14:53.637 night and the takeaway and they'd go out and they'd 0:14:53.647 --> 0:14:55.757 be a bit. But like, I think it's important you 0:14:55.767 --> 0:14:58.866 gotta have a life. You can't sacrifice everything for your kids. Right. 0:14:59.087 --> 0:15:02.286 And it's really expensive to go out. And so hiring 0:15:02.296 --> 0:15:05.096 a 23 year old, she's going to get paid a 0:15:05.106 --> 0:15:07.166 lot more money than a 14 year old. A 14 0:15:07.176 --> 0:15:08.497 year old will do it for a little bit of 0:15:08.507 --> 0:15:10.937 pocket money to put on the data on her phone 0:15:10.947 --> 0:15:13.767 or to buy, well, actually, probably a really expensive serum 0:15:13.786 --> 0:15:14.077 at Mecca. 0:15:15.137 --> 0:15:17.837 But, you know, a proper professional is going to put 0:15:17.866 --> 0:15:20.926 100 100 and $50 on your going out bill and 0:15:20.937 --> 0:15:22.616 you are not going to go out. We're losing a 0:15:22.627 --> 0:15:24.356 lot of things by being. So 0:15:24.747 --> 0:15:27.556 if it's true that we are being much more afraid 0:15:27.567 --> 0:15:30.926 of that, obviously, with the parameters of safety, it's funny 0:15:30.937 --> 0:15:33.947 now that we think 14 year olds couldn't possibly look 0:15:33.957 --> 0:15:36.426 after a four year old is in the same way 0:15:36.437 --> 0:15:37.827 that we look at 20 year olds and go, they're 0:15:37.837 --> 0:15:40.457 not adults, but they are, you know, but the people 0:15:40.466 --> 0:15:42.887 who are qualified childcare professionals, the people who've done their 0:15:42.897 --> 0:15:46.716 baby first aid courses and have those kinds of qualifications 0:15:46.726 --> 0:15:48.966 and have a lot of experience looking after Children. 0:15:49.577 --> 0:15:52.846 They don't want to be casual babysitters. They are in 0:15:52.856 --> 0:15:55.757 demand for full time work. They might work in daycare 0:15:55.767 --> 0:16:00.067 centers and childcare centers. And so you kind of got 0:16:00.077 --> 0:16:04.327 to take what you can get has been my experience 0:16:04.337 --> 0:16:06.027 when I was looking for babysitters. 0:16:06.796 --> 0:16:09.476 I mean, obviously, if people live close, the advantage is 0:16:09.486 --> 0:16:11.697 that you don't have to drive them home because that 0:16:11.707 --> 0:16:14.017 is really difficult. The point of going out is you 0:16:14.027 --> 0:16:16.666 might have had a couple of drinks and the worst 0:16:16.676 --> 0:16:18.166 is when you get home and then you've got to 0:16:18.176 --> 0:16:20.616 go all the way back out again and drive someone home. 0:16:21.007 --> 0:16:24.697 But also every parent tries to have a little roster 0:16:24.707 --> 0:16:27.536 of people. The good thing about young teenagers is that 0:16:27.546 --> 0:16:28.777 they can't go anywhere. 0:16:29.236 --> 0:16:31.536 So it's not like they've got a social life so 0:16:31.546 --> 0:16:35.187 they're more likely to be free. Whereas, yeah, you sort 0:16:35.197 --> 0:16:37.116 of gotta not take what you can get. But there's 0:16:37.127 --> 0:16:39.707 a reason why I agree with you. Holly, that if 0:16:39.716 --> 0:16:46.337 we disqualify all middle aged teenagers from babysitting the slim pickens, 0:16:46.346 --> 0:16:47.416 we're all stuck at home. 0:16:48.527 --> 0:16:52.747 Hello, babysitters Club, Saturday afternoon. We'll get right back to you. 0:16:56.197 --> 0:16:59.207 The weekend is almost upon us. So we are setting 0:16:59.216 --> 0:17:02.627 you up with a list of recommendations for you. Enjoy. 0:17:02.637 --> 0:17:05.606 We are gonna start Holly and I are basic bitches 0:17:05.616 --> 0:17:08.226 and we decided this week that we would watch our 0:17:08.236 --> 0:17:11.937 Oscars movies. We share them out and then tell each 0:17:11.947 --> 0:17:13.767 other whether they should say it. Mia You can't sit 0:17:13.777 --> 0:17:16.877 through a movie. We can't. Um, I saw Anatomy of 0:17:16.887 --> 0:17:21.186 a fall. I need you to be priest. Tell me everything. 0:17:21.777 --> 0:17:22.177 Yes, 0:17:24.057 --> 0:17:25.627 I don't know what happened. I think you fell off 0:17:25.637 --> 0:17:27.086 the third floor. The windows opened, 0:17:29.627 --> 0:17:31.887 the autopsy report is inconclusive. 0:17:32.917 --> 0:17:35.627 An accidental fault is gonna be hard for us to defend. 0:17:37.627 --> 0:17:41.356 That's why there's an investigation for a more suspicious death 0:17:42.456 --> 0:17:44.637 because you were the only person there 0:17:46.236 --> 0:17:48.856 and of course you're his wife. 0:17:49.657 --> 0:17:50.387 Stop. 0:17:51.037 --> 0:17:52.167 I did not kill him. 0:17:52.826 --> 0:17:55.627 That's not the point. It won the Academy Award for 0:17:55.637 --> 0:17:58.336 that one with the dog original screenplay. Yes, it was 0:17:58.346 --> 0:18:00.186 the dog that was clapping through the award. Why can't 0:18:00.196 --> 0:18:02.726 I stream it? I saw it at the movies but 0:18:02.736 --> 0:18:04.887 it is currently on prime video. I think you've got 0:18:04.897 --> 0:18:07.356 to pay to watch it. Oh, my goodness. It is so, 0:18:07.366 --> 0:18:09.196 so good. It is a French legal 0:18:09.252 --> 0:18:12.111 drama. So it takes place in a French courtroom which 0:18:12.122 --> 0:18:14.071 was very interesting because it's completely different to a British 0:18:14.081 --> 0:18:16.591 or American. The whole system is different the way they 0:18:16.902 --> 0:18:20.552 cross examine people, everything. But this is a premise. So 0:18:20.561 --> 0:18:23.142 main character is Sandra. This is confusing because her real 0:18:23.152 --> 0:18:26.622 name is also Sandra, but she's a novelist. It begins 0:18:26.632 --> 0:18:29.471 with this bizarre opening scene where she is being interviewed 0:18:29.481 --> 0:18:31.981 by a journalist, but the journalist can't hear her. She's 0:18:31.991 --> 0:18:34.792 in her home because her husband is playing music really 0:18:34.802 --> 0:18:36.961 loudly upstairs as though he kind of doesn't want the 0:18:36.971 --> 0:18:37.752 interview to happen. 0:18:38.326 --> 0:18:41.966 And then her son who is partially blind, he's about 12, 0:18:41.976 --> 0:18:44.027 goes for a walk around the block. The journalist has 0:18:44.037 --> 0:18:47.537 left and by the time he gets back to the home, 0:18:47.547 --> 0:18:51.986 his father has seemingly fallen from the third story of 0:18:51.997 --> 0:18:54.427 the house. And is laying dead out the front. 0:18:55.147 --> 0:18:57.986 And so you wonder if the mother had anything to 0:18:57.997 --> 0:19:00.177 do with it, how he ended up like that. And 0:19:00.186 --> 0:19:03.096 then audio is released of a fight that had the 0:19:03.106 --> 0:19:06.316 day before. So a lot of it, no, it's actually 0:19:06.326 --> 0:19:07.956 in English, a lot of it is in English, they 0:19:07.966 --> 0:19:10.917 speak English to each other at home. But parts are 0:19:10.927 --> 0:19:14.236 in French and subtitle. But the best scene which Holly 0:19:14.247 --> 0:19:17.696 you will love is this scene of the fight that 0:19:17.706 --> 0:19:22.877 they kind of replay, which is about marriage, mental load, 0:19:22.887 --> 0:19:24.637 parenting and time. 0:19:24.997 --> 0:19:28.307 And it's about whether when you wanna do something, you're 0:19:28.316 --> 0:19:31.576 stealing time from the other person. And it's this inversion 0:19:31.586 --> 0:19:34.106 of gender roles because she's wanting to write and he 0:19:34.116 --> 0:19:36.177 wants to write and every time she's writing, apparently he's 0:19:36.186 --> 0:19:37.336