1 00:00:09,387 --> 00:00:13,076 Speaker 1: May I have a question, a concern slash something to 2 00:00:13,086 --> 00:00:17,187 Speaker 1: confront you with? You know, in your babble? I actually 3 00:00:17,196 --> 00:00:19,917 Speaker 1: went and watched one in B do you watch that? 4 00:00:19,927 --> 00:00:22,387 Speaker 1: I watch that. I got a news called B and 5 00:00:22,396 --> 00:00:24,316 Speaker 1: Insta Babble is what I do when I babble on 6 00:00:24,326 --> 00:00:30,556 Speaker 1: Insta OK, I accidentally played three times in a row. 7 00:00:30,736 --> 00:00:32,837 Speaker 1: I watched that one. I went. Are people watching this shit? 8 00:00:32,847 --> 00:00:33,437 Speaker 1: This is a kind of 9 00:00:33,948 --> 00:00:36,948 Speaker 1: people want to watch and then you go sorry and 10 00:00:36,958 --> 00:00:38,878 Speaker 1: then you sneezed again and I was like, and she, 11 00:00:39,348 --> 00:00:42,088 Speaker 1: she looked at her engagement stats and saw the sneezing. 12 00:00:43,878 --> 00:00:47,388 Speaker 1: All the comments were bless you, bless you. Good for engagement. 13 00:00:47,399 --> 00:00:49,739 Speaker 1: But my concern is not only about your sneezing but 14 00:00:49,748 --> 00:00:52,568 Speaker 1: you know, when you use a beauty blender, I've noticed 15 00:00:52,579 --> 00:00:55,388 Speaker 1: this in meetings and I haven't said anything. I thought 16 00:00:55,399 --> 00:00:57,709 Speaker 1: that the point of a beauty blender was that you, 17 00:00:59,020 --> 00:01:01,180 Speaker 1: but when you do a beauty blender, you use it 18 00:01:01,191 --> 00:01:04,290 Speaker 1: like you would use a brush and it bothers me 19 00:01:04,301 --> 00:01:05,941 Speaker 1: because I think too much products getting on the blender, 20 00:01:05,950 --> 00:01:07,580 Speaker 1: not enough on your face. I don't think it's efficient. 21 00:01:07,591 --> 00:01:12,141 Speaker 1: Do you think that's my problem. I think that's the 22 00:01:12,150 --> 00:01:15,441 Speaker 1: least of our problems. I know also, it's meant to 23 00:01:15,451 --> 00:01:17,841 Speaker 1: be moist. It's meant to be moist and the people 24 00:01:17,850 --> 00:01:19,561 Speaker 1: on Tiktok who show me how to do it, but 25 00:01:19,570 --> 00:01:21,981 Speaker 1: I can never find water when I need to do it. It's, 26 00:01:22,322 --> 00:01:28,993 Speaker 1: I'm in a rush, don't? It has been done. Look, 27 00:01:29,002 --> 00:01:30,603 Speaker 1: we'll have to ask Lee Campbell or we'll have to 28 00:01:30,612 --> 00:01:33,252 Speaker 1: ask the beauty. But I have a feeling it's a dab, 29 00:01:33,262 --> 00:01:36,133 Speaker 1: not a life situation, but it's bothering me. I really 30 00:01:36,143 --> 00:01:39,103 Speaker 1: love the way it feels on my face pounce. I 31 00:01:39,112 --> 00:01:42,773 Speaker 1: think that's what the beauty people call it. The pounce. 32 00:01:43,143 --> 00:01:46,593 Speaker 1: It's a cross between a press and a bounce. 33 00:01:51,997 --> 00:01:55,407 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia out loud. What women 34 00:01:55,416 --> 00:01:58,456 Speaker 1: are actually talking about on Friday the 22nd of March 35 00:01:58,467 --> 00:02:02,166 Speaker 1: with no added sneezing. I am Holly Wainwright. I'm Mia 36 00:02:02,177 --> 00:02:05,357 Speaker 1: Friedman and I'm Jessie Stevens. And on the show today 37 00:02:05,467 --> 00:02:09,816 Speaker 1: Australia is the babysitter dead. No, not like that. 38 00:02:10,247 --> 00:02:13,306 Speaker 1: Also, Jessie and I finally watched some of the movies 39 00:02:13,316 --> 00:02:15,986 Speaker 1: from the Oscars and we're gonna tell you what's worth 40 00:02:15,997 --> 00:02:20,666 Speaker 1: your time and trying a new thing, a back disaster 41 00:02:20,877 --> 00:02:25,196 Speaker 1: and the inevitable chat about color seasons. Yes, it's best 42 00:02:25,207 --> 00:02:28,386 Speaker 1: and worst. Welcome to our Fun Friday show. But first Jessie, 43 00:02:28,806 --> 00:02:30,457 Speaker 1: in case you missed it, I'm breaking the rules. I'm 44 00:02:30,467 --> 00:02:32,607 Speaker 1: throwing in a Friday in case you missed it. There 45 00:02:32,616 --> 00:02:35,497 Speaker 1: are four things you should know this weekend before putting 46 00:02:35,506 --> 00:02:37,907 Speaker 1: on a load of laundry. If you're anything like me, 47 00:02:38,247 --> 00:02:39,877 Speaker 1: you're gonna be doing a lot of laundry on the weekend. 48 00:02:39,886 --> 00:02:42,997 Speaker 1: And I learnt rules. I like laundry. I think you 49 00:02:43,006 --> 00:02:45,196 Speaker 1: might be good at it because Holly and I were 50 00:02:45,207 --> 00:02:47,517 Speaker 1: just touching some of your clothes in the other room. 51 00:02:47,526 --> 00:02:50,726 Speaker 1: And we were saying they're not destroyed like our clothes, 52 00:02:50,836 --> 00:02:53,487 Speaker 1: we were choking them, sniffing them. 53 00:02:54,717 --> 00:02:56,827 Speaker 1: We were saying they're just not destroyed. 54 00:02:57,717 --> 00:03:00,747 Speaker 1: There's a woman named Laura de Barra and she's a 55 00:03:00,756 --> 00:03:03,166 Speaker 1: laundry expert. She's written a book about it. I'll buy 56 00:03:03,176 --> 00:03:05,146 Speaker 1: it for you for Christmas meal. It's about how to 57 00:03:05,157 --> 00:03:07,916 Speaker 1: wash your clothes properly, which means that they'll last longer, 58 00:03:07,926 --> 00:03:10,107 Speaker 1: color won't fade, they'll keep their shape and here are 59 00:03:10,116 --> 00:03:12,916 Speaker 1: four tips. Genuinely did not know. The first is that 60 00:03:12,926 --> 00:03:14,497 Speaker 1: when you put anything in your washing machine, 61 00:03:14,946 --> 00:03:17,586 Speaker 1: you've got to do up the zipper. Did you know that? 62 00:03:17,597 --> 00:03:19,446 Speaker 1: I didn't know that? Because if you don't do up 63 00:03:19,457 --> 00:03:22,207 Speaker 1: your zipper, then it's open, the teeth are open and 64 00:03:22,217 --> 00:03:25,077 Speaker 1: it's catching on your cottons and it's ruining your clothes. 65 00:03:25,306 --> 00:03:27,567 Speaker 1: And it also probably changes the shape of it a 66 00:03:27,577 --> 00:03:29,327 Speaker 1: little bit because it can get a little bit pulled 67 00:03:29,336 --> 00:03:32,086 Speaker 1: out of shape. So part of that rule, the zipper 68 00:03:32,097 --> 00:03:34,077 Speaker 1: is that all the buttons on any of your clothes 69 00:03:34,086 --> 00:03:35,726 Speaker 1: need to be completely undone. Because 70 00:03:35,832 --> 00:03:39,771 Speaker 1: otherwise, if they're done up then in the cycle they'll pull, 71 00:03:39,782 --> 00:03:42,222 Speaker 1: you'll lose the shape from your shoulders and stuff. So 72 00:03:42,232 --> 00:03:45,372 Speaker 1: buttons undone, but zip done up. What about if you've 73 00:03:45,381 --> 00:03:49,151 Speaker 1: got metal buttons, like, on jeans? Oh, good point. Because 74 00:03:49,161 --> 00:03:50,812 Speaker 1: I feel that that is somewhere in the middle of 75 00:03:50,821 --> 00:03:54,732 Speaker 1: those two things. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. I doing them 76 00:03:54,741 --> 00:03:56,592 Speaker 1: up now I think do them up. Ok. 77 00:03:57,226 --> 00:04:00,347 Speaker 1: Cool. Wash as much as possible. A hot wash apparently 78 00:04:00,357 --> 00:04:03,047 Speaker 1: fades the dye. I did know that. I didn't know that. 79 00:04:03,056 --> 00:04:07,026 Speaker 1: That's one I knew. Number three fast wash. No, no. What? 80 00:04:07,036 --> 00:04:10,696 Speaker 1: Horrific for clothes. It's horrific for the clothes because temperature 81 00:04:10,976 --> 00:04:15,067 Speaker 1: is fast wash. The temperature is too hot. And apparently 82 00:04:15,077 --> 00:04:17,726 Speaker 1: she talks about agitation on your fibers, right? 83 00:04:18,036 --> 00:04:19,976 Speaker 1: And so when you put it in, it's like it's 84 00:04:19,987 --> 00:04:22,556 Speaker 1: pulling all the fibers and when it's fast it's just pulling, pulling, 85 00:04:22,567 --> 00:04:25,237 Speaker 1: pulling and like your clothes have just but sorry when 86 00:04:25,247 --> 00:04:28,076 Speaker 1: you say fast, you don't mean quick in time. You 87 00:04:28,086 --> 00:04:30,646 Speaker 1: mean fast spin I think? Is that what you mean? 88 00:04:30,657 --> 00:04:33,567 Speaker 1: Because I've got like an express cycle. A very quick 89 00:04:33,576 --> 00:04:35,606 Speaker 1: wash which is only 15 minutes and I don't see 90 00:04:35,616 --> 00:04:37,657 Speaker 1: why that would make her sad. Does it go quicker 91 00:04:37,667 --> 00:04:40,306 Speaker 1: than a normal cycle? Because it goes for 15 minutes? 92 00:04:40,317 --> 00:04:43,426 Speaker 1: Not an hour. But is the actual cycling quicker? That's 93 00:04:43,437 --> 00:04:46,717 Speaker 1: a different thing. That's like the speed of the spinning. 94 00:04:46,727 --> 00:04:47,766 Speaker 1: Too many questions. 95 00:04:47,887 --> 00:04:49,896 Speaker 1: Many questions just don't do it. I feel like the 96 00:04:49,907 --> 00:04:52,447 Speaker 1: things you're telling me are raising more questions. OK. Well, 97 00:04:52,456 --> 00:04:54,717 Speaker 1: number four is very clear. I have follow ups. Yeah. 98 00:04:54,727 --> 00:04:56,556 Speaker 1: Go on. Are you two across where you're meant to 99 00:04:56,567 --> 00:04:58,616 Speaker 1: put the laundry detergent and where you're meant to put 100 00:04:58,627 --> 00:05:02,067 Speaker 1: the softener. Depends on your machine, doesn't it? According to Laura, 101 00:05:02,257 --> 00:05:05,497 Speaker 1: I don't use softener. Oh, do you? No, I use, 102 00:05:05,926 --> 00:05:08,437 Speaker 1: I use softener. Oh, I've got a friend who's obsessed with, 103 00:05:08,447 --> 00:05:13,197 Speaker 1: don't know, deal that I don't use softer. So, what 104 00:05:13,206 --> 00:05:16,007 Speaker 1: you have to do the detergent, some people are putting 105 00:05:16,016 --> 00:05:17,627 Speaker 1: it on their far left hand side. 106 00:05:18,157 --> 00:05:21,276 Speaker 1: Don't do that very bad. It's something prewashed something, something 107 00:05:21,287 --> 00:05:24,967 Speaker 1: you're meant to put your detergent far right corner, that 108 00:05:24,977 --> 00:05:28,306 Speaker 1: sort of last one and the mythical and then in 109 00:05:28,317 --> 00:05:30,826 Speaker 1: the middle one and apparently that really matters because it's, 110 00:05:30,836 --> 00:05:33,766 Speaker 1: when it's released into the wash, I have those holes. 111 00:05:33,776 --> 00:05:38,296 Speaker 1: You definitely have those. We all have the same holes, holes. Yeah. 112 00:05:38,606 --> 00:05:40,706 Speaker 1: How come your clothes aren't shit? What are you doing? 113 00:05:40,896 --> 00:05:43,597 Speaker 1: I think you separate things. I buy the new ones. 114 00:05:49,217 --> 00:05:52,997 Speaker 1: Is the babysitter dead. I don't mean in a horror 115 00:05:53,007 --> 00:05:54,947 Speaker 1: movie kind of a way, although more on that in 116 00:05:54,956 --> 00:05:58,287 Speaker 1: a minute, I mean, teenagers making a bit of extra 117 00:05:58,296 --> 00:06:02,116 Speaker 1: money around the neighborhood looking after the little kids if 118 00:06:02,127 --> 00:06:05,586 Speaker 1: you think about it, certainly in American culture, but therefore 119 00:06:05,597 --> 00:06:08,986 Speaker 1: has seeped into all our culture. The teenage babysitter is 120 00:06:08,997 --> 00:06:11,317 Speaker 1: an icon used to be an icon, right? 121 00:06:11,567 --> 00:06:14,276 Speaker 1: She's either tempting the dads who are looking at her 122 00:06:14,287 --> 00:06:17,836 Speaker 1: in an inappropriate way in like schlocky daytime movies or 123 00:06:17,847 --> 00:06:20,486 Speaker 1: she's being terrorized by a serial killer in horror movies 124 00:06:20,497 --> 00:06:23,736 Speaker 1: like in Halloween or she's off solving mysteries in the 125 00:06:23,747 --> 00:06:24,697 Speaker 1: babysitters club. 126 00:06:25,377 --> 00:06:29,477 Speaker 1: But apparently they are disappearing. And an essay in the 127 00:06:29,486 --> 00:06:32,866 Speaker 1: Atlantic called Don't Tell America. The babysitters dead by Faith 128 00:06:32,877 --> 00:06:36,567 Speaker 1: Hill explored why. Actually the neighborhood babysitter is a thing 129 00:06:36,576 --> 00:06:39,046 Speaker 1: of the past and here are a couple of theories 130 00:06:39,056 --> 00:06:40,356 Speaker 1: why that's true. 131 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:44,116 Speaker 1: One of them is that we no longer think teenagers 132 00:06:44,127 --> 00:06:46,736 Speaker 1: are responsible enough to be able to look after Children 133 00:06:47,217 --> 00:06:49,697 Speaker 1: and where we may once have thought that a 12 134 00:06:49,706 --> 00:06:52,567 Speaker 1: year old could probably look after a younger child. Now, 135 00:06:52,576 --> 00:06:55,806 Speaker 1: people generally think a 12 year old needs a babysitter. 136 00:06:55,817 --> 00:06:59,167 Speaker 1: That's so interesting. There used to be a kind of 137 00:06:59,176 --> 00:07:04,227 Speaker 1: specific sort of age bracket that we gave to babysitters. 138 00:07:04,236 --> 00:07:05,757 Speaker 1: And it's in this article, 139 00:07:05,856 --> 00:07:09,456 Speaker 1: li um historian of Childhood explains it by saying that 140 00:07:09,467 --> 00:07:12,056 Speaker 1: around 12 or 13, often if you were having a 141 00:07:12,067 --> 00:07:14,826 Speaker 1: babysitter come, you'd probably put the kids to bed or 142 00:07:14,836 --> 00:07:17,576 Speaker 1: very close to and maybe even stock the fridge with 143 00:07:17,586 --> 00:07:20,706 Speaker 1: a few snacks for the babysitter. And she says they 144 00:07:20,717 --> 00:07:23,067 Speaker 1: recognized that she was grown up enough to be an 145 00:07:23,076 --> 00:07:24,456 Speaker 1: extra eye in the home, 146 00:07:24,757 --> 00:07:28,016 Speaker 1: but childlike enough to go looking for snacks. And it's true, right? 147 00:07:28,026 --> 00:07:31,997 Speaker 1: That kind of particular era. Another theory is that our 148 00:07:32,007 --> 00:07:35,667 Speaker 1: communities have changed. So if your babysitter was, as she 149 00:07:35,676 --> 00:07:37,637 Speaker 1: very often was, and I certainly was when I was 150 00:07:37,646 --> 00:07:41,127 Speaker 1: babysitting your friend's daughter. So a kid you've been watching 151 00:07:41,137 --> 00:07:44,366 Speaker 1: grow up over years, maybe the world's not like that now. 152 00:07:44,377 --> 00:07:47,417 Speaker 1: And you don't have those kind of close relationships with 153 00:07:47,426 --> 00:07:49,537 Speaker 1: your friend's kids because you're more likely to socialize with 154 00:07:49,546 --> 00:07:50,217 Speaker 1: them separately. 155 00:07:51,097 --> 00:07:54,937 Speaker 1: Another thing is we're more anxious about all the things 156 00:07:54,947 --> 00:07:56,727 Speaker 1: that might go wrong. So I asked in the out 157 00:07:56,736 --> 00:07:58,986 Speaker 1: loud as Facebook group about whether or not the babysitter 158 00:07:58,997 --> 00:08:02,396 Speaker 1: was dead here. One person wrote, yes, I won't have 159 00:08:02,407 --> 00:08:05,787 Speaker 1: someone babysit unless they can do CPR and are an adult. 160 00:08:05,926 --> 00:08:08,836 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want the trauma on a child if something happened. 161 00:08:09,287 --> 00:08:11,426 Speaker 1: And another person said I would, if I had teens, 162 00:08:11,437 --> 00:08:13,687 Speaker 1: I wouldn't let them sit for other people's Children because 163 00:08:13,697 --> 00:08:16,377 Speaker 1: if anything went wrong, there would be no end to 164 00:08:16,387 --> 00:08:20,497 Speaker 1: the fallout. So we're all helicoptering. The babysitters being the 165 00:08:20,507 --> 00:08:25,356 Speaker 1: teens as well as helicoptering the Children being babysat. Exactly. 166 00:08:26,097 --> 00:08:29,456 Speaker 1: And then another theory is that parents just go out less, 167 00:08:29,467 --> 00:08:31,687 Speaker 1: which is partly money, of course, but this is a 168 00:08:31,697 --> 00:08:34,236 Speaker 1: bigger picture than recent cozy living pressures. 169 00:08:34,637 --> 00:08:37,106 Speaker 1: Parents have more fun things to do at home. We're 170 00:08:37,116 --> 00:08:39,817 Speaker 1: cocooning with our technology and all that kind of stuff. 171 00:08:39,877 --> 00:08:42,286 Speaker 1: So the sort of stereotype that we've seen in lots 172 00:08:42,296 --> 00:08:44,476 Speaker 1: of movies, which is at least once a week. Mom 173 00:08:44,486 --> 00:08:46,786 Speaker 1: and dad might go out. And when I was a kid, 174 00:08:46,846 --> 00:08:49,906 Speaker 1: my parents went out every Friday night, they went to 175 00:08:49,916 --> 00:08:52,536 Speaker 1: the pub with their friends, every Friday night and we 176 00:08:52,546 --> 00:08:55,137 Speaker 1: had babysitters and my parents were teachers. So they had 177 00:08:55,147 --> 00:08:59,637 Speaker 1: like a never ending because my mom taught like sixth 178 00:08:59,647 --> 00:09:02,096 Speaker 1: form kids. So like 16 to 18, 179 00:09:02,356 --> 00:09:05,106 Speaker 1: we had a never ending stream of 16 to 18 180 00:09:05,116 --> 00:09:07,156 Speaker 1: year olds who would look after us on a Friday night. 181 00:09:07,447 --> 00:09:09,716 Speaker 1: And they're saying that these days parents are less likely 182 00:09:09,726 --> 00:09:12,457 Speaker 1: to have that kind of regular schedule. 183 00:09:13,337 --> 00:09:15,887 Speaker 1: What do we think? I have a few theories about 184 00:09:15,897 --> 00:09:18,277 Speaker 1: what's happened. The first was actually brought up in that 185 00:09:18,286 --> 00:09:21,726 Speaker 1: Jonathan height article we talked about recently, which was about 186 00:09:21,736 --> 00:09:26,036 Speaker 1: globalization and the effect of a 24 hour news cycle 187 00:09:26,046 --> 00:09:28,736 Speaker 1: and getting every story delivered to us all the time. 188 00:09:28,747 --> 00:09:32,017 Speaker 1: And apparently this started changing in say the 19 eighties 189 00:09:32,156 --> 00:09:33,916 Speaker 1: where every time something horrible happened 190 00:09:33,979 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: to a kid, we heard about it. And so the 191 00:09:36,169 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: sense of danger is a lot more imminent and even 192 00:09:38,609 --> 00:09:41,410 Speaker 1: the CPR thing, right? It's great to have someone looking 193 00:09:41,419 --> 00:09:43,549 Speaker 1: after your kid who, who can do CPR. But our 194 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,119 Speaker 1: sense that that would need to happen is statistically disproportionate 195 00:09:48,129 --> 00:09:50,590 Speaker 1: because we've all heard that horror story or we've all 196 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,809 Speaker 1: heard the horror story about the teen babysitter that does 197 00:09:52,819 --> 00:09:54,689 Speaker 1: something wrong. The other thing that people 198 00:09:54,773 --> 00:09:57,752 Speaker 1: are really, really conscious about is any sort of sexual abuse. 199 00:09:57,762 --> 00:10:00,153 Speaker 1: Like I haven't heard a horror story about a teenage 200 00:10:00,163 --> 00:10:03,392 Speaker 1: babysitter that's just something going like, and I know that 201 00:10:03,403 --> 00:10:08,033 Speaker 1: fear especially, you know, with little little kids is high 202 00:10:08,332 --> 00:10:11,653 Speaker 1: but the fear that your baby or that your child 203 00:10:11,663 --> 00:10:14,233 Speaker 1: will choke or knock their head or have some like 204 00:10:14,242 --> 00:10:15,432 Speaker 1: health catastrophe. 205 00:10:15,817 --> 00:10:18,397 Speaker 1: I don't think that was as present a generation or 206 00:10:18,406 --> 00:10:22,616 Speaker 1: two ago because we weren't being bombarded with parental anxiety 207 00:10:22,627 --> 00:10:26,077 Speaker 1: was not as high as it is now, not as widespread. 208 00:10:26,247 --> 00:10:30,077 Speaker 1: The other thing I think is happening is that it's 209 00:10:30,087 --> 00:10:32,656 Speaker 1: a result of this sense that you can't look 210 00:10:32,772 --> 00:10:35,392 Speaker 1: after kids unless you have a qualification. So because of 211 00:10:35,402 --> 00:10:42,241 Speaker 1: the professionalization of the child educator industry, there's a sense 212 00:10:42,252 --> 00:10:44,372 Speaker 1: now that you do need to have done the courses 213 00:10:44,382 --> 00:10:45,921 Speaker 1: and you do need to have all the training in 214 00:10:45,931 --> 00:10:48,471 Speaker 1: order to look after kids. And that wasn't necessarily the 215 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:49,622 Speaker 1: case all those years ago. 216 00:10:50,277 --> 00:10:53,767 Speaker 1: And the other is that the working mums, I know 217 00:10:54,426 --> 00:10:56,046 Speaker 1: we know that if you are living in a city, 218 00:10:56,056 --> 00:10:58,527 Speaker 1: then most of the time you need both parents working 219 00:10:59,317 --> 00:11:02,687 Speaker 1: when working moms aren't at work, they feel like they 220 00:11:02,697 --> 00:11:05,777 Speaker 1: have to be at home. So even I'm finding the 221 00:11:05,786 --> 00:11:10,277 Speaker 1: time that I get with Luna feels so and you know, again, 222 00:11:10,286 --> 00:11:13,137 Speaker 1: that's little kids, but it feels like I almost can't 223 00:11:13,147 --> 00:11:16,056 Speaker 1: go out on a Friday or a Saturday night because 224 00:11:16,447 --> 00:11:18,817 Speaker 1: that's the not the only time, but that's the time 225 00:11:18,827 --> 00:11:21,377 Speaker 1: that I get with her. Same with single parents because 226 00:11:21,387 --> 00:11:23,656 Speaker 1: you're a single parent and you're sharing custody, 227 00:11:24,197 --> 00:11:26,406 Speaker 1: you don't want to get a babysitter on the night 228 00:11:26,416 --> 00:11:29,356 Speaker 1: you've got your kids or your partner might give you 229 00:11:29,366 --> 00:11:30,997 Speaker 1: a hard time or you're trying to save money or 230 00:11:31,007 --> 00:11:32,916 Speaker 1: you'll just go out on the nights that you don't 231 00:11:32,926 --> 00:11:36,786 Speaker 1: have your kids. So, it's interesting because in the out 232 00:11:36,796 --> 00:11:38,796 Speaker 1: loudest Facebook group, lots of people said that they did 233 00:11:38,806 --> 00:11:42,897 Speaker 1: still use teenage babysitters in specific situations, right? So people 234 00:11:42,906 --> 00:11:45,957 Speaker 1: say that if you think about this idyllic, you know, 235 00:11:45,966 --> 00:11:49,197 Speaker 1: the American movie stereotype of the idyllic suburban neighborhood, 236 00:11:49,627 --> 00:11:52,777 Speaker 1: then it works really well because they're usually your neighbors, 237 00:11:52,786 --> 00:11:55,337 Speaker 1: they live nearby. So like one out louder writes teenage 238 00:11:55,346 --> 00:11:57,966 Speaker 1: neighbors are the best babysitters. They're keen, they're affordable and 239 00:11:57,976 --> 00:12:00,236 Speaker 1: you can walk them safely back home across the street 240 00:12:00,247 --> 00:12:02,866 Speaker 1: or next door. If you've had a few drinks and 241 00:12:02,897 --> 00:12:05,757 Speaker 1: crucially their own parents are usually home. So there's 242 00:12:05,892 --> 00:12:09,372 Speaker 1: this added safety net. So it can be if something 243 00:12:09,382 --> 00:12:11,022 Speaker 1: did go wrong, they could call and mom could be 244 00:12:11,031 --> 00:12:13,642 Speaker 1: there in a minute. But I have another theory which 245 00:12:13,652 --> 00:12:16,122 Speaker 1: is also, it's about if we think that they're very 246 00:12:16,132 --> 00:12:20,471 Speaker 1: often female teenage babysitters, it's about the idea of possibly 247 00:12:20,481 --> 00:12:25,181 Speaker 1: exposing them to adults that you don't know, like fear 248 00:12:25,192 --> 00:12:28,051 Speaker 1: of that because some people said I'd let my 14 249 00:12:28,062 --> 00:12:29,911 Speaker 1: year old daughter babysit for people. I know, but I'd 250 00:12:29,921 --> 00:12:32,712 Speaker 1: never let her babysit for strangers. And again, to that 251 00:12:32,721 --> 00:12:35,341 Speaker 1: thing of us all being very panicky about stuff. 252 00:12:35,687 --> 00:12:38,497 Speaker 1: Again, from those movies, the dad drives the teenage girl 253 00:12:38,507 --> 00:12:41,536 Speaker 1: home after the shift is finished or whatever. Now we 254 00:12:41,546 --> 00:12:44,207 Speaker 1: would be like, oh, what if that something happens? Da, da, 255 00:12:44,277 --> 00:12:47,176 Speaker 1: da da. And which obviously has happened in history. But 256 00:12:47,187 --> 00:12:49,036 Speaker 1: should we all be afraid of that all the time? 257 00:12:49,046 --> 00:12:50,616 Speaker 1: I wonder what's lost because I 258 00:12:51,046 --> 00:12:52,656 Speaker 1: used to babysit all the time when I was a 259 00:12:52,666 --> 00:12:56,786 Speaker 1: teenager and sometimes I did stupid things. Like I let 260 00:12:56,796 --> 00:12:59,397 Speaker 1: kids stay up too late. I'd let them watch a 261 00:12:59,406 --> 00:13:02,007 Speaker 1: horror movie. I would, you know, do all kinds of 262 00:13:02,017 --> 00:13:04,257 Speaker 1: things you weren't supposed to do but, you know, no harm, 263 00:13:04,267 --> 00:13:06,476 Speaker 1: no foul. I don't think anything really bad happened. I'd 264 00:13:06,486 --> 00:13:10,866 Speaker 1: sneak my boyfriend in, you know, I'd raid their cupboards. 265 00:13:10,877 --> 00:13:15,306 Speaker 1: But again, like, this is all just silly teenage stuff 266 00:13:15,317 --> 00:13:15,666 Speaker 1: that 267 00:13:16,127 --> 00:13:19,106 Speaker 1: I don't know if we just lost the tolerance for imperfection, 268 00:13:19,156 --> 00:13:21,546 Speaker 1: you know? Yeah. I only babysat a couple of times 269 00:13:21,556 --> 00:13:23,416 Speaker 1: when I was little because I just found it boring. 270 00:13:23,426 --> 00:13:26,207 Speaker 1: I did it mostly for the snacks because my parents 271 00:13:26,216 --> 00:13:28,137 Speaker 1: never had good snacks. So I'd go and I'd just 272 00:13:28,147 --> 00:13:31,187 Speaker 1: look for snacks, but I wasn't that interested and it 273 00:13:31,197 --> 00:13:33,356 Speaker 1: didn't serve me well when I had Children because I 274 00:13:33,366 --> 00:13:36,486 Speaker 1: had no experience. I hadn't babysat. I had never looked 275 00:13:36,497 --> 00:13:38,897 Speaker 1: after I'd never changed a nappy. I'd never looked after 276 00:13:38,906 --> 00:13:42,707 Speaker 1: anyone's child. It also depends how old your kid is. Right. 277 00:13:42,716 --> 00:13:44,426 Speaker 1: Because if your kid's a certain age 278 00:13:44,866 --> 00:13:47,837 Speaker 1: they can tell you. I hated having babysitters. We never 279 00:13:47,846 --> 00:13:50,377 Speaker 1: had young babysitters. I would have liked that. We always 280 00:13:50,387 --> 00:13:56,527 Speaker 1: had older babysitters. They were old and like, mother and 281 00:13:56,536 --> 00:13:59,736 Speaker 1: grandmother types. They were not fun. Yeah, that's the other thing. Right, 282 00:13:59,747 --> 00:14:01,207 Speaker 1: is that because of 283 00:14:01,387 --> 00:14:04,387 Speaker 1: university, if you had the choice about getting a 13 284 00:14:04,397 --> 00:14:07,187 Speaker 1: year old babysitter or a 23 year old babysitter who's 285 00:14:07,197 --> 00:14:10,806 Speaker 1: finishing a university degree and also needs some casual work. 286 00:14:10,817 --> 00:14:13,447 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna choose a 23 year old. So this 287 00:14:13,457 --> 00:14:16,286 Speaker 1: delayed adulthood where people are doing more casual work for 288 00:14:16,296 --> 00:14:17,806 Speaker 1: longer also means that 289 00:14:18,056 --> 00:14:20,757 Speaker 1: there are more people that are potentially able to do it. 290 00:14:21,077 --> 00:14:22,697 Speaker 1: I was sitting there going, I grew up on the 291 00:14:22,707 --> 00:14:25,437 Speaker 1: babysitters club, read it all the time. They were 13, 292 00:14:25,447 --> 00:14:28,716 Speaker 1: there was one of them that was 1111, lots of 293 00:14:28,726 --> 00:14:31,036 Speaker 1: people said in the out loudest group, they said that they, 294 00:14:31,046 --> 00:14:33,077 Speaker 1: when they were young and I certainly did this, they 295 00:14:33,087 --> 00:14:35,846 Speaker 1: looked after little babies and now they've got b 296 00:14:36,046 --> 00:14:38,786 Speaker 1: yeah, like I couldn't imagine letting a 14 year old 297 00:14:38,796 --> 00:14:41,176 Speaker 1: look after them. But again, this is just all this 298 00:14:41,187 --> 00:14:44,387 Speaker 1: fear and panic because personally I'm a big believer that 299 00:14:44,397 --> 00:14:46,716 Speaker 1: parents should go out. Like, I think parents have to 300 00:14:46,726 --> 00:14:49,837 Speaker 1: have lives outside of their kids. It was modeled to me, 301 00:14:49,846 --> 00:14:51,866 Speaker 1: I guess. So. I, with my parents and their Friday 302 00:14:51,877 --> 00:14:53,637 Speaker 1: night and the takeaway and they'd go out and they'd 303 00:14:53,647 --> 00:14:55,757 Speaker 1: be a bit. But like, I think it's important you 304 00:14:55,767 --> 00:14:58,866 Speaker 1: gotta have a life. You can't sacrifice everything for your kids. Right. 305 00:14:59,087 --> 00:15:02,286 Speaker 1: And it's really expensive to go out. And so hiring 306 00:15:02,296 --> 00:15:05,096 Speaker 1: a 23 year old, she's going to get paid a 307 00:15:05,106 --> 00:15:07,166 Speaker 1: lot more money than a 14 year old. A 14 308 00:15:07,176 --> 00:15:08,497 Speaker 1: year old will do it for a little bit of 309 00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:10,937 Speaker 1: pocket money to put on the data on her phone 310 00:15:10,947 --> 00:15:13,767 Speaker 1: or to buy, well, actually, probably a really expensive serum 311 00:15:13,786 --> 00:15:14,077 Speaker 1: at Mecca. 312 00:15:15,137 --> 00:15:17,837 Speaker 1: But, you know, a proper professional is going to put 313 00:15:17,866 --> 00:15:20,926 Speaker 1: 100 100 and $50 on your going out bill and 314 00:15:20,937 --> 00:15:22,616 Speaker 1: you are not going to go out. We're losing a 315 00:15:22,627 --> 00:15:24,356 Speaker 1: lot of things by being. So 316 00:15:24,747 --> 00:15:27,556 Speaker 1: if it's true that we are being much more afraid 317 00:15:27,567 --> 00:15:30,926 Speaker 1: of that, obviously, with the parameters of safety, it's funny 318 00:15:30,937 --> 00:15:33,947 Speaker 1: now that we think 14 year olds couldn't possibly look 319 00:15:33,957 --> 00:15:36,426 Speaker 1: after a four year old is in the same way 320 00:15:36,437 --> 00:15:37,827 Speaker 1: that we look at 20 year olds and go, they're 321 00:15:37,837 --> 00:15:40,457 Speaker 1: not adults, but they are, you know, but the people 322 00:15:40,466 --> 00:15:42,887 Speaker 1: who are qualified childcare professionals, the people who've done their 323 00:15:42,897 --> 00:15:46,716 Speaker 1: baby first aid courses and have those kinds of qualifications 324 00:15:46,726 --> 00:15:48,966 Speaker 1: and have a lot of experience looking after Children. 325 00:15:49,577 --> 00:15:52,846 Speaker 1: They don't want to be casual babysitters. They are in 326 00:15:52,856 --> 00:15:55,757 Speaker 1: demand for full time work. They might work in daycare 327 00:15:55,767 --> 00:16:00,067 Speaker 1: centers and childcare centers. And so you kind of got 328 00:16:00,077 --> 00:16:04,327 Speaker 1: to take what you can get has been my experience 329 00:16:04,337 --> 00:16:06,027 Speaker 1: when I was looking for babysitters. 330 00:16:06,796 --> 00:16:09,476 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if people live close, the advantage is 331 00:16:09,486 --> 00:16:11,697 Speaker 1: that you don't have to drive them home because that 332 00:16:11,707 --> 00:16:14,017 Speaker 1: is really difficult. The point of going out is you 333 00:16:14,027 --> 00:16:16,666 Speaker 1: might have had a couple of drinks and the worst 334 00:16:16,676 --> 00:16:18,166 Speaker 1: is when you get home and then you've got to 335 00:16:18,176 --> 00:16:20,616 Speaker 1: go all the way back out again and drive someone home. 336 00:16:21,007 --> 00:16:24,697 Speaker 1: But also every parent tries to have a little roster 337 00:16:24,707 --> 00:16:27,536 Speaker 1: of people. The good thing about young teenagers is that 338 00:16:27,546 --> 00:16:28,777 Speaker 1: they can't go anywhere. 339 00:16:29,236 --> 00:16:31,536 Speaker 1: So it's not like they've got a social life so 340 00:16:31,546 --> 00:16:35,187 Speaker 1: they're more likely to be free. Whereas, yeah, you sort 341 00:16:35,197 --> 00:16:37,116 Speaker 1: of gotta not take what you can get. But there's 342 00:16:37,127 --> 00:16:39,707 Speaker 1: a reason why I agree with you. Holly, that if 343 00:16:39,716 --> 00:16:46,337 Speaker 1: we disqualify all middle aged teenagers from babysitting the slim pickens, 344 00:16:46,346 --> 00:16:47,416 Speaker 1: we're all stuck at home. 345 00:16:48,527 --> 00:16:52,747 Speaker 1: Hello, babysitters Club, Saturday afternoon. We'll get right back to you. 346 00:16:56,197 --> 00:16:59,207 Speaker 1: The weekend is almost upon us. So we are setting 347 00:16:59,216 --> 00:17:02,627 Speaker 1: you up with a list of recommendations for you. Enjoy. 348 00:17:02,637 --> 00:17:05,606 Speaker 1: We are gonna start Holly and I are basic bitches 349 00:17:05,616 --> 00:17:08,226 Speaker 1: and we decided this week that we would watch our 350 00:17:08,236 --> 00:17:11,937 Speaker 1: Oscars movies. We share them out and then tell each 351 00:17:11,947 --> 00:17:13,767 Speaker 1: other whether they should say it. Mia You can't sit 352 00:17:13,777 --> 00:17:16,877 Speaker 1: through a movie. We can't. Um, I saw Anatomy of 353 00:17:16,887 --> 00:17:21,186 Speaker 1: a fall. I need you to be priest. Tell me everything. 354 00:17:21,777 --> 00:17:22,177 Speaker 2: Yes, 355 00:17:24,057 --> 00:17:25,627 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I think you fell off 356 00:17:25,637 --> 00:17:27,086 Speaker 1: the third floor. The windows opened, 357 00:17:29,627 --> 00:17:31,887 Speaker 1: the autopsy report is inconclusive. 358 00:17:32,917 --> 00:17:35,627 Speaker 1: An accidental fault is gonna be hard for us to defend. 359 00:17:37,627 --> 00:17:41,356 Speaker 1: That's why there's an investigation for a more suspicious death 360 00:17:42,456 --> 00:17:44,637 Speaker 1: because you were the only person there 361 00:17:46,236 --> 00:17:48,856 Speaker 1: and of course you're his wife. 362 00:17:49,657 --> 00:17:50,387 Speaker 1: Stop. 363 00:17:51,037 --> 00:17:52,167 Speaker 1: I did not kill him. 364 00:17:52,826 --> 00:17:55,627 Speaker 1: That's not the point. It won the Academy Award for 365 00:17:55,637 --> 00:17:58,336 Speaker 1: that one with the dog original screenplay. Yes, it was 366 00:17:58,346 --> 00:18:00,186 Speaker 1: the dog that was clapping through the award. Why can't 367 00:18:00,196 --> 00:18:02,726 Speaker 1: I stream it? I saw it at the movies but 368 00:18:02,736 --> 00:18:04,887 Speaker 1: it is currently on prime video. I think you've got 369 00:18:04,897 --> 00:18:07,356 Speaker 1: to pay to watch it. Oh, my goodness. It is so, 370 00:18:07,366 --> 00:18:09,196 Speaker 1: so good. It is a French legal 371 00:18:09,252 --> 00:18:12,111 Speaker 1: drama. So it takes place in a French courtroom which 372 00:18:12,122 --> 00:18:14,071 Speaker 1: was very interesting because it's completely different to a British 373 00:18:14,081 --> 00:18:16,591 Speaker 1: or American. The whole system is different the way they 374 00:18:16,902 --> 00:18:20,552 Speaker 1: cross examine people, everything. But this is a premise. So 375 00:18:20,561 --> 00:18:23,142 Speaker 1: main character is Sandra. This is confusing because her real 376 00:18:23,152 --> 00:18:26,622 Speaker 1: name is also Sandra, but she's a novelist. It begins 377 00:18:26,632 --> 00:18:29,471 Speaker 1: with this bizarre opening scene where she is being interviewed 378 00:18:29,481 --> 00:18:31,981 Speaker 1: by a journalist, but the journalist can't hear her. She's 379 00:18:31,991 --> 00:18:34,792 Speaker 1: in her home because her husband is playing music really 380 00:18:34,802 --> 00:18:36,961 Speaker 1: loudly upstairs as though he kind of doesn't want the 381 00:18:36,971 --> 00:18:37,752 Speaker 1: interview to happen. 382 00:18:38,326 --> 00:18:41,966 Speaker 1: And then her son who is partially blind, he's about 12, 383 00:18:41,976 --> 00:18:44,027 Speaker 1: goes for a walk around the block. The journalist has 384 00:18:44,037 --> 00:18:47,537 Speaker 1: left and by the time he gets back to the home, 385 00:18:47,547 --> 00:18:51,986 Speaker 1: his father has seemingly fallen from the third story of 386 00:18:51,997 --> 00:18:54,427 Speaker 1: the house. And is laying dead out the front. 387 00:18:55,147 --> 00:18:57,986 Speaker 1: And so you wonder if the mother had anything to 388 00:18:57,997 --> 00:19:00,177 Speaker 1: do with it, how he ended up like that. And 389 00:19:00,186 --> 00:19:03,096 Speaker 1: then audio is released of a fight that had the 390 00:19:03,106 --> 00:19:06,316 Speaker 1: day before. So a lot of it, no, it's actually 391 00:19:06,326 --> 00:19:07,956 Speaker 1: in English, a lot of it is in English, they 392 00:19:07,966 --> 00:19:10,917 Speaker 1: speak English to each other at home. But parts are 393 00:19:10,927 --> 00:19:14,236 Speaker 1: in French and subtitle. But the best scene which Holly 394 00:19:14,247 --> 00:19:17,696 Speaker 1: you will love is this scene of the fight that 395 00:19:17,706 --> 00:19:22,877 Speaker 1: they kind of replay, which is about marriage, mental load, 396 00:19:22,887 --> 00:19:24,637 Speaker 1: parenting and time. 397 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:28,307 Speaker 1: And it's about whether when you wanna do something, you're 398 00:19:28,316 --> 00:19:31,576 Speaker 1: stealing time from the other person. And it's this inversion 399 00:19:31,586 --> 00:19:34,106 Speaker 1: of gender roles because she's wanting to write and he 400 00:19:34,116 --> 00:19:36,177 Speaker 1: wants to write and every time she's writing, apparently he's 401 00:19:36,186 --> 00:19:37,336 Speaker 1: stealing time from her. 402 00:19:38,096 --> 00:19:40,696 Speaker 1: It was one of the most perfect scenes in a 403 00:19:40,706 --> 00:19:42,767 Speaker 1: film I have ever seen. But do you mean if 404 00:19:42,777 --> 00:19:46,537 Speaker 1: she wants to write? She's stealing time from him because 405 00:19:46,547 --> 00:19:49,476 Speaker 1: he has to look after the child? Yes. Right. Can 406 00:19:49,486 --> 00:19:51,846 Speaker 1: you blame your partner for all the things you never did? 407 00:19:51,856 --> 00:19:55,716 Speaker 1: Because they didn't, what present you with the time? So 408 00:19:55,726 --> 00:19:59,127 Speaker 1: just the idea was of time was amazing. And is 409 00:19:59,137 --> 00:20:02,537 Speaker 1: it set in like modern day, like in France? And 410 00:20:02,547 --> 00:20:04,257 Speaker 1: it's happened in this sort of chalet? 411 00:20:05,007 --> 00:20:08,767 Speaker 1: So Sandra Hula who is in anatomy, a fall is 412 00:20:08,777 --> 00:20:12,637 Speaker 1: also in zone of interest. So she's been nominated for 413 00:20:12,647 --> 00:20:15,116 Speaker 1: best actress in two films this year. We haven't seen 414 00:20:15,287 --> 00:20:17,946 Speaker 1: that yet. That's this weekend, that's, this weekend we'll watch 415 00:20:17,956 --> 00:20:20,846 Speaker 1: zone of interest. So, oh, my goodness. You must watch it. 416 00:20:20,856 --> 00:20:22,927 Speaker 1: It is brilliant. You would love it. You love it. 417 00:20:22,956 --> 00:20:25,017 Speaker 1: So then does it follow the court case? It follows 418 00:20:25,027 --> 00:20:28,137 Speaker 1: the court case and it's all about guilt and innocence 419 00:20:28,147 --> 00:20:30,966 Speaker 1: and it all ends up 12 year old boy. What 420 00:20:30,976 --> 00:20:33,076 Speaker 1: did he see? What didn't he see? Moral dilemma? 421 00:20:33,767 --> 00:20:36,787 Speaker 1: Oh, nice. Love it. All right. So I watched American 422 00:20:36,797 --> 00:20:41,476 Speaker 1: fiction which won the best Oscar for best adapted screenplay, 423 00:20:42,887 --> 00:20:45,557 Speaker 1: Monk. Your books are good but they're not popular 424 00:20:46,377 --> 00:20:49,167 Speaker 1: editors. They want a black book. They have a black book. 425 00:20:49,177 --> 00:20:52,167 Speaker 1: I'm black and it's my book. You know what I mean? 426 00:20:53,777 --> 00:20:56,446 Speaker 1: Look at what they publish, look at what they expect 427 00:20:56,456 --> 00:20:57,116 Speaker 1: us to write. 428 00:20:57,976 --> 00:20:59,976 Speaker 1: I just want to rub their noses in it. 429 00:21:00,836 --> 00:21:04,247 Speaker 1: I'd be standing outside in the night. Dead beat dads, 430 00:21:04,257 --> 00:21:08,427 Speaker 1: rappers crack. You said you wanted black stuff? That's black, right? 431 00:21:08,586 --> 00:21:12,596 Speaker 1: I see what you're doing. It's so good. It's about 432 00:21:12,606 --> 00:21:14,486 Speaker 1: a writer. I wonder why so many movies about writers? 433 00:21:14,497 --> 00:21:18,377 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it because writers write them and etcetera. Anyway, 434 00:21:18,736 --> 00:21:20,956 Speaker 1: the guy who won the Oscar, he wrote it, he 435 00:21:20,966 --> 00:21:23,177 Speaker 1: directed it. He was one of the producers, he's called 436 00:21:23,186 --> 00:21:26,436 Speaker 1: C Jefferson, right? And it's based on a book. But 437 00:21:26,446 --> 00:21:29,366 Speaker 1: the premise of it is there is a writer. He 438 00:21:29,377 --> 00:21:31,527 Speaker 1: is played by Jeffrey wright. You've seen him in lots 439 00:21:31,537 --> 00:21:33,476 Speaker 1: of things. When you see him, you'll be like that guy. 440 00:21:34,047 --> 00:21:37,257 Speaker 1: He is a writer and an academic, a black writer 441 00:21:37,267 --> 00:21:38,316 Speaker 1: and academic. Right? 442 00:21:38,616 --> 00:21:41,226 Speaker 1: And his books are kind of well respected but not 443 00:21:41,236 --> 00:21:44,976 Speaker 1: very successful. And his agent keeps giving him the feedback. 444 00:21:45,257 --> 00:21:48,497 Speaker 1: They want a black book and he's like, well, I'm 445 00:21:48,507 --> 00:21:50,757 Speaker 1: black and it's my book. So it is a black 446 00:21:50,767 --> 00:21:53,407 Speaker 1: book and they're like, no, they want a black book 447 00:21:53,417 --> 00:21:56,366 Speaker 1: and what he means is and what the main character 448 00:21:56,377 --> 00:21:58,037 Speaker 1: who's called Monk. His nickname is Monk 449 00:21:58,846 --> 00:22:02,557 Speaker 1: discovers. And what frustrates him enormously about culture is that 450 00:22:02,566 --> 00:22:04,606 Speaker 1: everybody's saying they want a black book, but they want 451 00:22:04,616 --> 00:22:06,946 Speaker 1: a very specific kind of black book. They want a 452 00:22:06,956 --> 00:22:10,716 Speaker 1: black book about the ghetto and about, you know, drug 453 00:22:10,726 --> 00:22:13,797 Speaker 1: dealers and moms and somebody gets shot and all that stuff, 454 00:22:13,807 --> 00:22:16,997 Speaker 1: that's what they want. And he is tormented by this 455 00:22:17,007 --> 00:22:20,366 Speaker 1: woman who's played by Sa ra who um is at 456 00:22:20,377 --> 00:22:21,917 Speaker 1: the top of the charts at the minute because she's 457 00:22:21,927 --> 00:22:24,177 Speaker 1: written that kind of a book and 458 00:22:26,872 --> 00:22:28,841 Speaker 1: comedy and he's an academic and he comes from a 459 00:22:28,851 --> 00:22:31,402 Speaker 1: middle class family and the subplot is all about his 460 00:22:31,412 --> 00:22:34,731 Speaker 1: family and it's really, really interesting in itself. But anyway, 461 00:22:34,741 --> 00:22:37,772 Speaker 1: so in a fit of rage one day, he writes 462 00:22:37,782 --> 00:22:41,172 Speaker 1: the stereotypical parody book and he sends it to his 463 00:22:41,182 --> 00:22:44,111 Speaker 1: agent and he's like, see if those fuckers will publish this. 464 00:22:44,122 --> 00:22:45,372 Speaker 1: And he's kind of joking 465 00:22:45,657 --> 00:22:47,907 Speaker 1: but of course, I love it. He gets like a 466 00:22:47,917 --> 00:22:50,956 Speaker 1: $4 million movie deal and all this and he hates 467 00:22:50,966 --> 00:22:52,787 Speaker 1: it and he's so tormented and he tries to get 468 00:22:52,797 --> 00:22:55,716 Speaker 1: them to unpublished it by. He poses that he's like, 469 00:22:55,846 --> 00:22:59,116 Speaker 1: not really a middle class black academic, but he's a guy, 470 00:22:59,127 --> 00:23:02,287 Speaker 1: a fugitive on the run and all this stuff and 471 00:23:02,297 --> 00:23:04,277 Speaker 1: he's talking to the publishers and he's, he's saying, 472 00:23:04,507 --> 00:23:05,826 Speaker 1: you know what? I want to change the title. I 473 00:23:05,836 --> 00:23:09,027 Speaker 1: just want to call it fuck. And he's like, that'll 474 00:23:09,037 --> 00:23:13,767 Speaker 1: stop him. And then they're like, that's great. It's just 475 00:23:13,777 --> 00:23:16,816 Speaker 1: so funny. It's so clever. It's so great. It says 476 00:23:16,826 --> 00:23:19,047 Speaker 1: a lot. But without it being like a film, there's 477 00:23:19,057 --> 00:23:21,836 Speaker 1: such a good bit in it where he ends up 478 00:23:21,846 --> 00:23:25,747 Speaker 1: on a panel of literary awards and he, and this 479 00:23:25,757 --> 00:23:28,436 Speaker 1: array are the only two black writer on it. 480 00:23:28,836 --> 00:23:31,797 Speaker 1: And this fake book that he's written is, is nominated 481 00:23:31,807 --> 00:23:33,537 Speaker 1: and all the white people on the panel want to 482 00:23:33,547 --> 00:23:35,997 Speaker 1: vote for it. And both him and Issa's character are like, 483 00:23:36,007 --> 00:23:38,686 Speaker 1: but it's shit and they just keep saying, but it's 484 00:23:38,696 --> 00:23:41,946 Speaker 1: so important. We listen to African American voices and the 485 00:23:41,956 --> 00:23:46,007 Speaker 1: two African American people on the panel are like, yeah, 486 00:23:46,017 --> 00:23:49,927 Speaker 1: it's so funny. It's so clever. It's short, it's brilliant. 487 00:23:49,936 --> 00:23:52,877 Speaker 1: It's called American Fiction and it's real, real. Where can 488 00:23:52,887 --> 00:23:56,257 Speaker 1: I watch that? That's on Amazon Prime video. It's really good. 489 00:23:56,267 --> 00:23:57,887 Speaker 1: The Family subplot is also great. 490 00:23:58,186 --> 00:24:01,716 Speaker 1: That's that for me, got something to read in between 491 00:24:01,726 --> 00:24:04,726 Speaker 1: watching your movies, maybe an interval. It is a story 492 00:24:04,736 --> 00:24:07,606 Speaker 1: that went viral a couple of weeks ago from New 493 00:24:07,616 --> 00:24:11,017 Speaker 1: York magazine and it's called How I got scammed out 494 00:24:11,027 --> 00:24:15,366 Speaker 1: of $50,000. Now, I would normally not read this story 495 00:24:15,377 --> 00:24:18,686 Speaker 1: but quite a few people that I follow recommended it. 496 00:24:19,186 --> 00:24:23,936 Speaker 1: It's subtitled the day I put $50,000 in a shoe 497 00:24:23,946 --> 00:24:26,566 Speaker 1: box and handed it to a stranger. I never thought 498 00:24:26,576 --> 00:24:29,436 Speaker 1: I was the kind of person to fall for a scam. 499 00:24:30,336 --> 00:24:34,236 Speaker 1: It's written by a woman called Charlotte Cows and she 500 00:24:34,247 --> 00:24:38,997 Speaker 1: is actually a financial journalist. She starts this piece about 501 00:24:39,007 --> 00:24:41,736 Speaker 1: how she fell victim to this scam by writing when 502 00:24:41,747 --> 00:24:43,887 Speaker 1: I've told people this story, most of them say the 503 00:24:43,897 --> 00:24:46,206 Speaker 1: same thing. You don't seem like the type of person 504 00:24:46,216 --> 00:24:47,167 Speaker 1: this would happen to 505 00:24:47,397 --> 00:24:50,606 Speaker 1: what they mean is I'm not senile or hysterical or 506 00:24:50,616 --> 00:24:54,267 Speaker 1: a rube. But these stereotypes are actually false. Younger adults. 507 00:24:54,277 --> 00:24:58,397 Speaker 1: Gen Z millennials and Gen X are 34% more likely 508 00:24:58,407 --> 00:25:02,277 Speaker 1: to report losing money to fraud compared with those over 60. 509 00:25:02,287 --> 00:25:04,826 Speaker 1: According to a recent report from the Federal Trade Commission 510 00:25:04,836 --> 00:25:07,816 Speaker 1: in the US. Another study found that well educated people 511 00:25:07,912 --> 00:25:10,241 Speaker 1: or those with good jobs were just as vulnerable to 512 00:25:10,252 --> 00:25:13,991 Speaker 1: scams as everyone else. What's amazing about this story is 513 00:25:14,002 --> 00:25:17,091 Speaker 1: that it's this woman. She lives in an apartment in 514 00:25:17,101 --> 00:25:20,162 Speaker 1: New York. She's a freelance writer. She's got a number 515 00:25:20,172 --> 00:25:22,532 Speaker 1: of good jobs. She's actually a finance writer for New 516 00:25:22,542 --> 00:25:26,282 Speaker 1: York magazine and she's got a young son and a 517 00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:27,932 Speaker 1: husband and 518 00:25:28,667 --> 00:25:34,287 Speaker 1: her day starts with a phone call and it's basically 519 00:25:34,297 --> 00:25:38,007 Speaker 1: someone who claims to be from some official government agency 520 00:25:38,057 --> 00:25:40,986 Speaker 1: saying that her bank details have been compromised. 521 00:25:41,706 --> 00:25:44,936 Speaker 1: She actually starts the piece by saying after she said 522 00:25:44,946 --> 00:25:46,686 Speaker 1: the stuff about, she doesn't seem like the person who 523 00:25:46,696 --> 00:25:50,007 Speaker 1: would be sucked in by a scam. She says I'm 524 00:25:50,017 --> 00:25:55,696 Speaker 1: standing outside my house with $50,000 of my savings in cash, 525 00:25:55,706 --> 00:25:57,686 Speaker 1: which I have withdrawn from the bank and they're in 526 00:25:57,696 --> 00:26:01,326 Speaker 1: the shoe box. A car drives down the street, the 527 00:26:01,336 --> 00:26:03,767 Speaker 1: window winds down. I can't really see who's in the 528 00:26:03,777 --> 00:26:07,287 Speaker 1: back seat. I thrust it at the person and say, 529 00:26:07,616 --> 00:26:09,226 Speaker 1: please don't let them hurt my 530 00:26:09,287 --> 00:26:12,747 Speaker 1: family and the car drives off and of course, she 531 00:26:12,757 --> 00:26:14,547 Speaker 1: never sees the money again and none of this is 532 00:26:14,557 --> 00:26:16,706 Speaker 1: a spoiler because she says this at the beginning. But 533 00:26:16,747 --> 00:26:20,267 Speaker 1: she got that first phone call like in the morning 534 00:26:20,277 --> 00:26:24,147 Speaker 1: and that was late in the afternoon and you go 535 00:26:24,236 --> 00:26:26,976 Speaker 1: the screenplay waiting to happen. Well, it would be pretty 536 00:26:26,986 --> 00:26:28,986 Speaker 1: boring because she's mostly just on the phone but 537 00:26:29,586 --> 00:26:32,696 Speaker 1: on a computer. But you say how on earth could 538 00:26:32,706 --> 00:26:35,186 Speaker 1: that happen? You must be such an idiot. And then 539 00:26:35,196 --> 00:26:38,986 Speaker 1: she talks about what happens through the day and how 540 00:26:38,997 --> 00:26:41,966 Speaker 1: this scam works. You know, some of the things that 541 00:26:41,976 --> 00:26:46,787 Speaker 1: they use are really well proven techniques about brainwashing and, 542 00:26:46,997 --> 00:26:49,836 Speaker 1: you know, like keeping someone on the phone, confusing them. 543 00:26:50,137 --> 00:26:52,366 Speaker 1: Um By the end of the article, were you like, 544 00:26:52,377 --> 00:26:54,787 Speaker 1: I would have done the same. Well, yes, I could see. 545 00:26:54,797 --> 00:26:57,257 Speaker 1: And then there are points where her husband's like, hey, 546 00:26:57,267 --> 00:26:59,127 Speaker 1: are you? Ok. And she's like, I'm fine 547 00:26:59,486 --> 00:27:02,466 Speaker 1: and then she talks about the shame of the fact 548 00:27:02,476 --> 00:27:05,997 Speaker 1: that she did that and, and how she didn't even 549 00:27:06,007 --> 00:27:08,096 Speaker 1: want to write this piece because who will ever employ 550 00:27:08,106 --> 00:27:10,627 Speaker 1: her again? Because it makes her seem like such an idiot. 551 00:27:11,366 --> 00:27:14,866 Speaker 1: It was completely fascinating because you start by going never. 552 00:27:14,877 --> 00:27:16,287 Speaker 1: And at the end you're like there. But for the 553 00:27:16,297 --> 00:27:19,316 Speaker 1: grace of God go, I, these people are so, so 554 00:27:19,326 --> 00:27:22,836 Speaker 1: so clever. We will put a link to all of 555 00:27:22,846 --> 00:27:25,787 Speaker 1: our recommendations in the Mamma Mia out loud newsletter. If 556 00:27:25,797 --> 00:27:27,696 Speaker 1: you want to sign up for that for free. It 557 00:27:27,706 --> 00:27:29,807 Speaker 1: is a link to in the show notes 558 00:27:31,637 --> 00:27:35,486 Speaker 1: every Tuesday and Thursday, we drop new segments of Mamma 559 00:27:35,497 --> 00:27:39,696 Speaker 1: Mia out loud just for Mamma Mia subscribers. Follow the 560 00:27:39,706 --> 00:27:41,787 Speaker 1: link in the show notes to get your daily dose 561 00:27:41,797 --> 00:27:44,537 Speaker 1: of out loud and a big thank you to all 562 00:27:44,547 --> 00:27:45,966 Speaker 1: our current subscribers. 563 00:27:56,497 --> 00:28:01,196 Speaker 1: It's time for our best and worst moments where we reflect. Sorry, 564 00:28:01,206 --> 00:28:05,816 Speaker 1: I just burped back on the week. That was my worst. 565 00:28:06,177 --> 00:28:09,486 Speaker 1: I've started back on no filter. I took a season off, 566 00:28:09,497 --> 00:28:12,907 Speaker 1: Kate Langbroek was hosting the summer season. Loved that, loved 567 00:28:12,917 --> 00:28:16,167 Speaker 1: having a break from the show. I'm back. I'm reinvigorated. 568 00:28:16,177 --> 00:28:17,956 Speaker 1: My first episode drops on Monday. 569 00:28:19,057 --> 00:28:20,807 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to, I have to do two or 570 00:28:20,816 --> 00:28:23,027 Speaker 1: three interviews in a week. I did two interviews actually 571 00:28:23,037 --> 00:28:26,167 Speaker 1: in one day because when you're interviewing people, you have 572 00:28:26,177 --> 00:28:29,137 Speaker 1: to just take when they're available. And also I do 573 00:28:29,147 --> 00:28:31,206 Speaker 1: a lot of remote interviews, which is great because it 574 00:28:31,216 --> 00:28:33,436 Speaker 1: means that I can interview people from all over the world. 575 00:28:33,446 --> 00:28:36,127 Speaker 1: So I did two remote interviews in the same day. 576 00:28:36,436 --> 00:28:39,706 Speaker 1: The first I had to interrupt the interview after about 577 00:28:39,716 --> 00:28:42,716 Speaker 1: five or 10 minutes because the woman was wearing dangly earrings. 578 00:28:42,726 --> 00:28:44,257 Speaker 1: It was this noise and I couldn't work out what 579 00:28:44,267 --> 00:28:46,127 Speaker 1: it was. And I'm like, are you wearing bracelets? And 580 00:28:46,137 --> 00:28:47,066 Speaker 1: she said no. 581 00:28:47,397 --> 00:28:49,407 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, it's your earrings and 582 00:28:49,417 --> 00:28:52,007 Speaker 1: they were like banging and then she was doing something 583 00:28:52,017 --> 00:28:54,606 Speaker 1: with a pencil case. Anyway, the second interview that I 584 00:28:54,616 --> 00:28:56,917 Speaker 1: did a woman had just got home. It was in 585 00:28:56,927 --> 00:28:59,137 Speaker 1: the US. She just got home from work and picked 586 00:28:59,147 --> 00:29:00,997 Speaker 1: up her dog from doggy daycare and 587 00:29:01,466 --> 00:29:03,917 Speaker 1: the dog, it was this big golden retriever and it 588 00:29:03,927 --> 00:29:08,027 Speaker 1: just kept interrupting the interview. First, it was whining. Then 589 00:29:08,037 --> 00:29:09,866 Speaker 1: she gave it a bone, then it was chewing the 590 00:29:09,877 --> 00:29:11,706 Speaker 1: bone really noisily. Then she's like, I'm so sorry, I'll 591 00:29:11,716 --> 00:29:12,777 Speaker 1: put it in the crate. Then she put it in 592 00:29:12,787 --> 00:29:14,627 Speaker 1: the crate. Didn't like being in the crate my dog 593 00:29:14,917 --> 00:29:17,106 Speaker 1: has been, that took it out of the crate, then 594 00:29:17,116 --> 00:29:18,736 Speaker 1: it got a ball and it kept bouncing the 595 00:29:18,802 --> 00:29:20,422 Speaker 1: all on the floor. Then she put it back in 596 00:29:20,432 --> 00:29:22,601 Speaker 1: the crate. I reckon we had to start and stop 597 00:29:22,611 --> 00:29:25,432 Speaker 1: the interview maybe six or seven times. Remember when home 598 00:29:25,441 --> 00:29:27,851 Speaker 1: life did not interfere with work life back in the 599 00:29:27,861 --> 00:29:31,052 Speaker 1: day these days. So I'm so out of practice. I'm 600 00:29:31,061 --> 00:29:32,902 Speaker 1: so not much fit for doing this. But now we've, 601 00:29:32,912 --> 00:29:35,522 Speaker 1: I've reminded my producer and I have started this list. 602 00:29:35,532 --> 00:29:37,902 Speaker 1: So we're like, if you've got a pet, it needs 603 00:29:37,912 --> 00:29:41,341 Speaker 1: to be put away, preferably medicated. If you are wearing jewelry, 604 00:29:41,351 --> 00:29:43,601 Speaker 1: please take it off. If you have anything in the 605 00:29:43,611 --> 00:29:45,571 Speaker 1: desk in front of you, please remove it 606 00:29:45,997 --> 00:29:49,446 Speaker 1: anyway. So that was my worst. My best is that 607 00:29:49,456 --> 00:29:52,377 Speaker 1: I got to sing. I got to sing and I 608 00:29:52,387 --> 00:29:54,856 Speaker 1: got a dress fitting this week. Tickets go on sale 609 00:29:54,866 --> 00:29:59,017 Speaker 1: today for Mamma Mia Out Loud Live presented by Nivea Cellular. 610 00:29:59,706 --> 00:30:03,267 Speaker 1: This week we've had dress fittings, which has been my dream. 611 00:30:03,277 --> 00:30:06,517 Speaker 1: It's been so fun and also recording for a special 612 00:30:06,527 --> 00:30:10,247 Speaker 1: little treat that we've got. People have never seen Mia 613 00:30:10,356 --> 00:30:13,667 Speaker 1: in what she is gonna be. I can't get over 614 00:30:13,677 --> 00:30:15,877 Speaker 1: one of your costumes. It's so ridiculous. You've never looked 615 00:30:15,887 --> 00:30:18,096 Speaker 1: so happy. I went running around the office. I was 616 00:30:18,106 --> 00:30:20,677 Speaker 1: so thrilled and then we got to actually record like 617 00:30:20,686 --> 00:30:24,566 Speaker 1: in a proper way in a proper studio. Like standing 618 00:30:24,576 --> 00:30:27,627 Speaker 1: up like it was great. It was great. It was 619 00:30:27,831 --> 00:30:31,101 Speaker 1: my best. I was like Taylor a lot. Like Taylor. 620 00:30:31,241 --> 00:30:35,532 Speaker 1: My worst is that I, I've been having this awful 621 00:30:35,542 --> 00:30:38,372 Speaker 1: back pain which anyone with a little, like a crawling 622 00:30:38,422 --> 00:30:40,672 Speaker 1: baby will know that this is not a good time 623 00:30:40,682 --> 00:30:43,361 Speaker 1: to be a person at the back. But I've always 624 00:30:43,372 --> 00:30:45,861 Speaker 1: had this issue like this left disc, you know, y 625 00:30:45,872 --> 00:30:47,691 Speaker 1: you slip a disk or whatever and I did it 626 00:30:47,701 --> 00:30:49,762 Speaker 1: years and years ago and it's, I got to the 627 00:30:49,772 --> 00:30:51,542 Speaker 1: point the other week where I was like, it's gonna 628 00:30:51,552 --> 00:30:53,211 Speaker 1: go and I'm gonna be one of those people that 629 00:30:53,221 --> 00:30:54,861 Speaker 1: can't move for two weeks. I better go get this 630 00:30:54,872 --> 00:30:55,892 Speaker 1: checked out. Anyway, 631 00:30:56,366 --> 00:30:57,997 Speaker 1: I ended up having to get a whole X ray 632 00:30:58,007 --> 00:31:00,747 Speaker 1: and everything and they do this thing where they can 633 00:31:00,757 --> 00:31:02,897 Speaker 1: draw a line up your body where your spine should 634 00:31:02,907 --> 00:31:05,047 Speaker 1: be right? But they draw it up and by the 635 00:31:05,057 --> 00:31:07,557 Speaker 1: time it gets to my head, it's my ear. Like 636 00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:11,956 Speaker 1: that's how out of alignment I am. And it was 637 00:31:11,966 --> 00:31:14,787 Speaker 1: so interesting. I saw this Cairo who said he was like, 638 00:31:14,797 --> 00:31:16,667 Speaker 1: look at your T shirt and he showed me the 639 00:31:16,677 --> 00:31:18,267 Speaker 1: way that my T shirt was sitting. And he said, 640 00:31:18,826 --> 00:31:20,677 Speaker 1: if you look at all your photos, your T shirt 641 00:31:20,686 --> 00:31:22,907 Speaker 1: will be sitting funny because one shoulder is so much 642 00:31:22,917 --> 00:31:25,267 Speaker 1: higher than the other shoulder. And he said, even the 643 00:31:25,277 --> 00:31:28,047 Speaker 1: waistband on what I was wearing will always be down 644 00:31:28,147 --> 00:31:30,397 Speaker 1: at the front because I've got this pelvic tilt. Is 645 00:31:30,407 --> 00:31:32,887 Speaker 1: this got anything to do with breaking your leg? It's 646 00:31:32,897 --> 00:31:35,596 Speaker 1: got something to do with breaking my leg plus a pregnancy. 647 00:31:35,606 --> 00:31:39,277 Speaker 1: But plus your pelvic, your pelvis. So he got me 648 00:31:39,287 --> 00:31:41,287 Speaker 1: to stand on this scale where they work out how 649 00:31:41,297 --> 00:31:42,767 Speaker 1: much weight's coming from each leg. 650 00:31:43,186 --> 00:31:45,466 Speaker 1: And my left is taking like 4 kg more because 651 00:31:45,476 --> 00:31:47,446 Speaker 1: I've learned to walk in a way that my right 652 00:31:47,456 --> 00:31:50,637 Speaker 1: leg doesn't hurt and it's pushed my whole back out 653 00:31:50,647 --> 00:31:55,946 Speaker 1: and it's just I am in so much discomfort. And 654 00:31:55,956 --> 00:31:57,677 Speaker 1: I said to you and you can't get away from 655 00:31:57,686 --> 00:32:01,417 Speaker 1: it when it's your back. You're never sitting right. And um, 656 00:32:01,726 --> 00:32:03,407 Speaker 1: since I've had a baby, I've not been able to 657 00:32:03,417 --> 00:32:05,507 Speaker 1: one night sleep on my side, I've got to sleep 658 00:32:05,517 --> 00:32:07,127 Speaker 1: on my back because my hips are sore. 659 00:32:07,461 --> 00:32:10,331 Speaker 1: Anyway. I feel relieved that when they fix it. That's 660 00:32:10,341 --> 00:32:13,012 Speaker 1: my question. I think so. He thinks so. I'm glad 661 00:32:13,022 --> 00:32:14,451 Speaker 1: that he sent me for this X ray because something 662 00:32:14,461 --> 00:32:16,652 Speaker 1: I've just been a bit worried about. So he's going 663 00:32:16,662 --> 00:32:18,701 Speaker 1: to do a bunch of, you know, crazy. Did he 664 00:32:18,711 --> 00:32:21,691 Speaker 1: say your disc could fall out? He gave me some 665 00:32:21,701 --> 00:32:24,002 Speaker 1: tips to make sure it won't. But what's hard is that, 666 00:32:24,012 --> 00:32:26,252 Speaker 1: what would help is if I wasn't picking up 8 667 00:32:26,262 --> 00:32:30,642 Speaker 1: kg 300 times a day, but that's not really working 668 00:32:30,652 --> 00:32:31,101 Speaker 1: for me. 669 00:32:31,547 --> 00:32:34,907 Speaker 1: My best. Look, you heard us a few weeks ago 670 00:32:34,917 --> 00:32:38,387 Speaker 1: talk about color seasons. I got madly obsessed. 671 00:32:38,767 --> 00:32:41,366 Speaker 1: You won't believe it. But I was wrong. I diagnosed 672 00:32:41,377 --> 00:32:45,497 Speaker 1: some of us wrongly and this incredible, what's the color season? 673 00:32:45,677 --> 00:32:48,596 Speaker 1: Not everybody is as deep down this role as a 674 00:32:48,726 --> 00:32:51,226 Speaker 1: color season is basically everyone fits into one of the 675 00:32:51,236 --> 00:32:54,816 Speaker 1: seasons and it's about your skin, hair and eye color 676 00:32:54,826 --> 00:32:58,066 Speaker 1: and what colors suit you best. You should wear them. 677 00:32:58,076 --> 00:33:00,427 Speaker 1: And it includes jewelry and makeup and all the things. 678 00:33:00,436 --> 00:33:02,606 Speaker 1: Firm rules. It gives you rules and I love rules. 679 00:33:02,616 --> 00:33:05,147 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with rules. So we had Kim Crowley come in. 680 00:33:05,157 --> 00:33:08,257 Speaker 1: She is an expert and she schooled us a 681 00:33:08,311 --> 00:33:11,461 Speaker 1: three. We got so, so deep and she told us 682 00:33:11,471 --> 00:33:13,272 Speaker 1: what made us look awful. I want to talk about. 683 00:33:13,282 --> 00:33:14,991 Speaker 1: She told us what makes us look beautiful and Mia 684 00:33:15,002 --> 00:33:17,272 Speaker 1: loved when she told us what made us look awful 685 00:33:17,282 --> 00:33:21,752 Speaker 1: because Mia kept saying you do look disgusting. Yes. Yes. 686 00:33:23,221 --> 00:33:25,682 Speaker 1: I thought you're horrible in that color. We've got her 687 00:33:25,691 --> 00:33:28,152 Speaker 1: coming up in an upcoming episode if you want to 688 00:33:28,162 --> 00:33:30,991 Speaker 1: learn everything about it. I just, oh, it's so fun. 689 00:33:31,002 --> 00:33:33,741 Speaker 1: I went shopping. Life changing. Holly. What you two are 690 00:33:33,762 --> 00:33:37,711 Speaker 1: so invigorated by their colors. Ok. My worst is that 691 00:33:38,307 --> 00:33:40,986 Speaker 1: in a bid to remember things because my memory is 692 00:33:40,997 --> 00:33:43,236 Speaker 1: full of holes. I think it's menopause. I think it's life. 693 00:33:43,247 --> 00:33:46,627 Speaker 1: I think it's whatever. I'm always taking notes on my phone. Right. 694 00:33:46,637 --> 00:33:49,037 Speaker 1: I'm sure I do that either in my notes app 695 00:33:49,047 --> 00:33:51,397 Speaker 1: or in my Slack. That's what I do. We use 696 00:33:51,407 --> 00:33:53,596 Speaker 1: this internal messaging system called Slack and you can send 697 00:33:53,606 --> 00:33:56,137 Speaker 1: yourself messages all the time. And because I'm on there 698 00:33:56,147 --> 00:33:57,726 Speaker 1: a lot for work, it's a good place to put 699 00:33:57,736 --> 00:33:59,856 Speaker 1: my notes. Because if I put them in my notes app, 700 00:34:00,116 --> 00:34:02,157 Speaker 1: I often don't remember to look in my notes app 701 00:34:02,497 --> 00:34:04,466 Speaker 1: or I don't remember what I should be searching for 702 00:34:04,476 --> 00:34:07,027 Speaker 1: my notes app of writing it on your hand. 703 00:34:07,346 --> 00:34:09,887 Speaker 1: The problem is because my memory's so rubbish that then 704 00:34:09,897 --> 00:34:11,966 Speaker 1: I scroll through my slack and there are just all 705 00:34:11,976 --> 00:34:13,527 Speaker 1: these random words. 706 00:34:14,346 --> 00:34:16,616 Speaker 1: I was looking today and it just said girls on 707 00:34:16,627 --> 00:34:19,507 Speaker 1: the bus in capitals, all caps girls on the bus. 708 00:34:19,956 --> 00:34:23,347 Speaker 1: I was like, what girls on what bus I'm like, 709 00:34:23,357 --> 00:34:25,547 Speaker 1: is that something to do with some girls being mean 710 00:34:25,557 --> 00:34:29,456 Speaker 1: to Matilda on the bus or that? And then it's 711 00:34:29,466 --> 00:34:31,646 Speaker 1: a TV show that I'm meant to be watching. And 712 00:34:31,656 --> 00:34:34,107 Speaker 1: then I'd written Lorn Dike in. 713 00:34:35,597 --> 00:34:39,666 Speaker 1: I was like, is that somebody's name? But actually I've 714 00:34:39,676 --> 00:34:42,257 Speaker 1: gone down like a native lawn rabbit hole and it's 715 00:34:42,267 --> 00:34:46,166 Speaker 1: about a seed called Di Chondra. Like I just, and 716 00:34:46,176 --> 00:34:49,827 Speaker 1: then I 75 H in big letters. I'm like, what, 717 00:34:49,837 --> 00:34:54,077 Speaker 1: 75 H and I was like, what I'm meant to 718 00:34:54,087 --> 00:34:55,787 Speaker 1: be sitting on at a concert. 719 00:35:00,136 --> 00:35:02,327 Speaker 1: I still don't know what that was about. Holly. I 720 00:35:02,337 --> 00:35:04,686 Speaker 1: think it's a Sagittarius thing. Because I was saying that 721 00:35:04,696 --> 00:35:08,166 Speaker 1: I was going through mine and mindset in capital letters 27th. 722 00:35:08,386 --> 00:35:11,117 Speaker 1: And it was clear that something is happening on the 27th. 723 00:35:11,126 --> 00:35:13,547 Speaker 1: That's important to me. And then, and then what you 724 00:35:13,557 --> 00:35:15,956 Speaker 1: do is you check your, all your messages. I was 725 00:35:15,966 --> 00:35:18,936 Speaker 1: searching my phone couldn't find it anywhere. But clearly I 726 00:35:18,946 --> 00:35:21,507 Speaker 1: was like, you need to put this in a diary somewhere. 727 00:35:21,517 --> 00:35:24,396 Speaker 1: But what diary and where am I going? It's a mess. 728 00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:28,317 Speaker 1: This is my worst. My life is a mess. My 729 00:35:28,327 --> 00:35:31,307 Speaker 1: best related to what we were talking about on Tuesday. 730 00:35:31,317 --> 00:35:34,787 Speaker 1: I spent the morning in a dance rehearsal. Oh my God. 731 00:35:34,797 --> 00:35:37,426 Speaker 1: Our lives have become so weird for this period, like 732 00:35:37,436 --> 00:35:40,317 Speaker 1: in a proper studio with like mirrors and, and a 733 00:35:40,327 --> 00:35:42,456 Speaker 1: proper choreographer. Not just me telling you 734 00:35:42,531 --> 00:35:45,662 Speaker 1: I just stepped up at home. Of course, I didn't 735 00:35:46,162 --> 00:35:47,912 Speaker 1: all about it. I couldn't find when I got there 736 00:35:48,081 --> 00:35:51,821 Speaker 1: and she had you watched the video. I was like 737 00:35:51,831 --> 00:35:58,251 Speaker 1: searching my notes that 75 8 probably had something to 738 00:35:58,261 --> 00:35:59,791 Speaker 1: do with it. Anybody knows 739 00:36:00,186 --> 00:36:02,946 Speaker 1: the thing is though is it wasn't like whether it 740 00:36:02,956 --> 00:36:05,807 Speaker 1: was good or not, but dancing around for an hour 741 00:36:05,817 --> 00:36:09,206 Speaker 1: made me so happy. I came into the office afterwards 742 00:36:09,216 --> 00:36:12,307 Speaker 1: and I was like high on this happy vibe and 743 00:36:12,317 --> 00:36:13,206 Speaker 1: I just thought, 744 00:36:13,527 --> 00:36:17,166 Speaker 1: well, obviously there's the exercise endorphin thing and there's the music, 745 00:36:17,307 --> 00:36:20,117 Speaker 1: but it's like doing something different that you don't normally 746 00:36:20,126 --> 00:36:22,617 Speaker 1: do it was just so fun and it made me think. 747 00:36:22,626 --> 00:36:24,626 Speaker 1: I haven't done any of those dance workouts that are 748 00:36:24,636 --> 00:36:26,626 Speaker 1: in the move up. They're my favorite ones to do. 749 00:36:26,636 --> 00:36:28,716 Speaker 1: And I was like, I should do them because I 750 00:36:28,726 --> 00:36:31,067 Speaker 1: used to do that MK Fit dance workout and I 751 00:36:31,077 --> 00:36:32,376 Speaker 1: used to love it. But I've kind of, you know, 752 00:36:32,386 --> 00:36:34,696 Speaker 1: when you just forget about something and then I was 753 00:36:34,706 --> 00:36:35,827 Speaker 1: dancing around the studio. 754 00:36:36,013 --> 00:36:38,653 Speaker 1: A right idiot. It's gonna be very amusing. Do you 755 00:36:38,663 --> 00:36:41,443 Speaker 1: know funny story? You were the inspiration for those dance 756 00:36:41,453 --> 00:36:43,483 Speaker 1: workouts on move because do you remember when you went 757 00:36:43,493 --> 00:36:45,013 Speaker 1: through that phase? I don't know if it was during 758 00:36:45,022 --> 00:36:47,673 Speaker 1: COVID but you were doing dance workouts on youtube in 759 00:36:47,743 --> 00:36:51,072 Speaker 1: the Yeah. So we've got actually the choreographer who we're 760 00:36:51,082 --> 00:36:54,513 Speaker 1: using does the dance workouts on move. And that was 761 00:36:54,522 --> 00:36:56,892 Speaker 1: because of what you were doing, which is I that 762 00:36:56,903 --> 00:36:58,292 Speaker 1: I've forgotten all about them. 763 00:36:58,498 --> 00:36:59,809 Speaker 1: I should have written it in the back of your hand. 764 00:36:59,819 --> 00:37:02,659 Speaker 1: I should, I have a friend who's very much wants 765 00:37:02,669 --> 00:37:04,869 Speaker 1: to be head of the culture and she says that 766 00:37:04,879 --> 00:37:07,008 Speaker 1: everyone's going to be doing dance classes in five minutes. 767 00:37:07,018 --> 00:37:09,738 Speaker 1: She thinks it's the next frontier of exercise. There's all 768 00:37:09,748 --> 00:37:12,599 Speaker 1: this research that has come out about fun. It's fun. 769 00:37:12,809 --> 00:37:16,099 Speaker 1: It makes you feel good, mental health, body cardio, all 770 00:37:16,109 --> 00:37:17,518 Speaker 1: of that. But it has the thing for it to 771 00:37:17,528 --> 00:37:19,159 Speaker 1: be fun. And this is why I used to love 772 00:37:19,169 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: those ones I did in the garage 773 00:37:21,146 --> 00:37:23,646 Speaker 1: is it shouldn't matter whether you're good or not because 774 00:37:23,656 --> 00:37:26,396 Speaker 1: obviously some people are better dancers than others and some can, 775 00:37:26,406 --> 00:37:28,226 Speaker 1: are more flexible and some can point their toes and 776 00:37:28,236 --> 00:37:30,726 Speaker 1: some can kick their legs high. Like if you take 777 00:37:30,736 --> 00:37:33,037 Speaker 1: all that out of it, it's just the moving and 778 00:37:33,047 --> 00:37:35,787 Speaker 1: the music and the fun. Like nothing makes you feel 779 00:37:35,797 --> 00:37:38,726 Speaker 1: better out loud as we are so excited to see 780 00:37:38,736 --> 00:37:40,966 Speaker 1: you at our live show, Mum Mia Out loud live 781 00:37:40,976 --> 00:37:45,466 Speaker 1: presented by Nivea Cellular. A reminder that general sale tickets. 782 00:37:45,476 --> 00:37:48,327 Speaker 1: This is open to. Absolutely. Everyone are on sale right 783 00:37:48,416 --> 00:37:50,597 Speaker 1: now. Head to the link in the show notes to 784 00:37:50,607 --> 00:37:53,837 Speaker 1: grab them before they sell out before we go. Have 785 00:37:53,847 --> 00:37:56,706 Speaker 1: you thought about your bucket list? A lot of people 786 00:37:56,716 --> 00:37:58,097 Speaker 1: have a bucket list but do you have an anti 787 00:37:58,176 --> 00:38:02,446 Speaker 1: bucket list yesterday? On our subscriber episode, we discussed the 788 00:38:02,456 --> 00:38:06,196 Speaker 1: things we've tried, which we vow never ever to do again. 789 00:38:06,206 --> 00:38:07,077 Speaker 1: Here's a taste 790 00:38:07,466 --> 00:38:10,896 Speaker 1: skiing. I was gonna say skiing don't need to do it. No, 791 00:38:10,906 --> 00:38:14,936 Speaker 1: I hate snow, snow's cold, it's wet, it makes you 792 00:38:14,946 --> 00:38:18,486 Speaker 1: cold and wet that people don't talk about that enough. 793 00:38:18,706 --> 00:38:22,297 Speaker 1: Not everybody looks like Victoria Beckham in her Chanel ski suit, 794 00:38:22,307 --> 00:38:25,386 Speaker 1: hike a mountain. When I last hiked a mountain. I 795 00:38:25,396 --> 00:38:26,626 Speaker 1: broke my leg and I got stuck at the top 796 00:38:26,636 --> 00:38:29,577 Speaker 1: of the mountain. I would say getting rid of all 797 00:38:29,587 --> 00:38:33,047 Speaker 1: my pubes. Same. Don't do that again. Did that one 798 00:38:33,057 --> 00:38:36,166 Speaker 1: time with waxing many years ago, didn't like it. 799 00:38:36,726 --> 00:38:38,636 Speaker 1: The funniest part is that at the top of all 800 00:38:38,646 --> 00:38:41,007 Speaker 1: our list was the same thing and there was some 801 00:38:41,017 --> 00:38:45,476 Speaker 1: concern that we could not broadcast that thing, but we are, 802 00:38:45,557 --> 00:38:53,607 Speaker 1: we have to have a warning at the beginning. There 803 00:38:53,617 --> 00:38:55,847 Speaker 1: is a link to that episode in the show notes. 804 00:38:55,857 --> 00:38:58,037 Speaker 1: That is so funny. It's true. We all just looked 805 00:38:58,047 --> 00:38:59,966 Speaker 1: at each other and went. Oh, you too. 806 00:39:00,976 --> 00:39:03,396 Speaker 1: Oh dear. Ok. That is all we've got time for 807 00:39:03,406 --> 00:39:06,507 Speaker 1: today and this week on Mamma Mia out loud. 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